Pope Francis: "Bold Cultural Revolution" Needed to Save Planet from Climate Change & Consumerism

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Environmental groups have welcomed
the pope's action on climate

steeped in a quote

poverty with no way out.

on the globe isn't.

to change course conference

and poor,

that should supersede political
and economic interests.

from Canada

has

is now possible to

Iranian and

anybody

discussion about and

and that harms everyone had expressed
through the poorest

express my deep deep sadness and outrage

But

and it is certainly

I

action to save the planet
from environmental ruin

you know I'm right forum

of climate change,

I invite everyone to accept
with open hearts

the culture

say some very powerful truth about
that the real implications

Nathan Schneider joins us columnist
in America magazine a national

she's joining us by Democracy
Now video stream

the Vatican published the pope's
long awaited encyclical on the

where she will speak at the people
and planet first the imperative

the cry of the Earth and
the cry of the poor.

Being that they consume less fossil fuels.

delays half measures

and here in New York.

in the US media cycle

While others have not the faintest
idea of what to do with their

on the impact on Republican,

he said.

I want to ask you about a specific

changes everything,

well it will consume green products

and the poorest people who don't
have the means to defend

consumption

in the wealthy world among the wealthy,

Good morning.

we can't believe that laws will
be enough to change behaviors

denying the urgency of the science.

to

which is also worth bearing

culture

underlying there are used

Our house is going to ruin

climate denial is not just about denying
the science is also about

throw away consumer culture

citation from the leaked document

and

in Italy

and that is probably well he's
referring to when he's talking

is a

polling companies and multinational
corporations which we also put

before the common good.

One might expect

capitalism versus the climate.

everything.

the guy has given to many crescendo

You know I

environment and climate change,

in which he was placed

should go further.

I think that

he said.

to hear

this multi-layered

to that demographic.

Rick Santorum.

which is to say that there
are forces witnesses

you know this pope is leading this way

to name just a few.

And it was an attack on a
religious institution,

countries

and

stock you know I've which follows
the church's social document.

. When it was just released,

The pub is talking about the death

that that that the Vatican
is leading in this way,

been adopted by the pope and you
you know phrases like ecological

we fail to see that some are mired
in desperate and degrading

and

Thank you both

door has just been opened and

cyclical

very clear.

as well as an attack

of frenetic

overstate the importance of it,

Pope.

measure that will encourage speculation
and rapid consumption

in really significant ways by economic
crisis during the Cold War

for believers and nonbelievers alike

I haven't been able to look at,

capitalism,

I've got strong wind

possessions

the encyclical

based on the past,

a lot of the language of the kind
of justice movement has just

and it

He also dismissed those who argue

that kind of deeper

so-called market solutions it very

it is also a challenge to Hillary
Clinton and Barack Obama

know I'm not aware of all
the environmental law.

because

I mean just for people to understand
what this encyclical is the

large part of the green movement

where it

you know this goes a lot deeper
than that and says no.

climate change is already happening

explicitly the power dynamics

Vatican,

It's gonna be a tool for social movements,

Yes,

which is also addressed

We're joined now by 2 guests Naomi
Klein is the author of this

on climate change.

Earlier today,

the encyclical for radical change,

a grief-stricken warning there
were having this conversation.

of

from

as as thrilled as I am

in Argentina

focused and will continue to focus

is the foreign grounding

an inadequate

Because

at this

There are also part of the
human population who,

actively working against

well world owes to the poor.

and an end to obstructionist attitudes
that sometimes put profit

feeling this cultural frenetic
conception that is entirely

And I think a lot of

Naomi let's begin with you

just now actually,

for decades.

you erased

and

to and keep the

requires

We turn now to the Vatican where Pope
Francis has called for swift

that for us is a source of inspiration.

and I think this is one of the most
significant thing about the

vainly showing off their
supposed superiority

and this is happening,

while it's not heroes,

And you know I do you know the
laws are also inadequate,

and its effects have already been
disastrous on the poorest

urging world leaders to hear a quote

mean Goodman with their main chair.

on climate change and the environment.

that technology will solve all
environmental problems in the

from Ecuador

would destroy the planet.

We have already expressed our gratitude
to his holiness because we

it's

there are

the impact that it will have.

This is a frightening

which

So we are absolutely grateful
for this in cyclical

Quote

seek a confidence

and bringing together the fight
against poverty with

the 16th,

so a lot of

of a religious talking
about climate change

that

specifically criticizes

France has called for a change of
lifestyle and rich countries

everywhere

Peter Turks and himself of Ghana.

that the picture

We urge you to stay with us.

and it has a very specific

In the United States because the
pope is coming out so clearly

difference right say

I mean,

The document is

carbon markets a carbon offsetting

in the in the dark

Hope Francis said.

darkness.

number of languages.

but I mean I have to say
on a personal level,

Well,

and leaving behind them
so much waste which

the side of the world that we
don't normally hear from

debt.

many of whom are Catholic,

You know,

at the least responsibility
for what is happening.

and you know that he's he's.

. A major 3 theme of the encyclical
as the disparity between rich

Protecting the planet is a moral
and ethical imperative

is

5 months ahead of the UN climate

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respond to the Pope's encyclical

of the climate change discussion

if it were the case,

frankly,

you know I think that this you
know in the quicker we cannot

Now like you mentioned the fact that
the pope calls repeatedly in

at The Hague crime

in

It's hard to respond to a document
that runs a close to 200 pages

We need to get at the

that period earlier this week,

that the language of climate debt

Probably the most significant parliament

a challenge

A

This is

like

my is therefore an appeal
for responsibility,

global hunger and poverty will be
resolved simply by market growth

we're,

Catholic weekly magazine published
by the Cheshire.

themselves from it.

She's been invited to
speak at the Vatican,

just settle on a free oil is the
executive director of Greenpeace

we just will just have a green growth.

and certainly a possibility.

use of that term.

it really the root causes.

this is really the first
3rd world and cyclical

As Greenpeace.

on an African Americans.

need to see climate change as a
mostly moral and ethical issue

and they're

the fight

you know this is coming from a pope

do you more deeply into the darkness.

we'll hear

trial they have it all ways and say no,

conference in Paris

change

but it also recognizes

there is an understanding that
it does take time to digest a

Well just how

before I you know I would really like to

you know closely enough

It's been released and how large it is

have accepted and this invitation to

dangerous

I've never seen such a mainstream

so this is coming from

that affect the environment,

the language is the recognition
that there is a

in Charleston.

few hours ago

but I think it's too easy to say
that this is just a challenge

it is a rebuke of a slow action

very specifically

a divide here between the rich
countries in the poor

you never heard in mainstream circles.

and

you know.

is blowing through

complete merger between the crime
and justice movement in the

where are still

how there may be lots that
the laws are enforced.

originally

to

the words of Cardinal

and

going back to Paul.

and I think that this intervention

on the side of climate science
and saying this is real,

I wish to pay the darkness.

the content is actually not
so new for Catholics

be referring to there.

it's going to push political leaders

and this is a really significant
because I think large parts

a cardinal from Ghana,

look at

about

out

that comes,

you know,

issues

And in a corrupt

very strong into journey

in that way,

when he referring to corruption

with the Catholic weekly America

that the,

says that

unsustainable.

change

between the first and second world powers

Well,

Nathan Schneider your columnist

could you talk specifically about
that about the laws that he may

and I believe he referring
to the influence of

We're gonna break and when we come back,

The 6th and John Polis second

we're all in this together

Earth has our common home

This is a phrase that was

from the

document

calls for

who was shaped

Until

That doesn't mean

you've been covering Catholic engagement
with climate change.

a reproductive rights and freedom

and this is a cry

I mean obviously there are huge
differences that remain over

and another thing I have
to say if you know I am.

the developing world from

for change.

it was drafted by

against drilling in the Amazon

is tremendously significant,

is quality

now,

very much in line with things
that popes have been saying

So it is very important

and

there's a

what has been

being in the middle of
a battleground between

but the emphasis and that

and what it means for the
Catholic community.

Talk about the scope of this,

Benedict,

that

labeled the 3rd world

that that