Transforming ownership to create a better economy | Armin Steuernagel | TEDxZurich
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0:26 - 0:31I own a company, and I have a problem.
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0:32 - 0:35To be honest, I think
we all have a problem. -
0:36 - 0:42Because we all stopped discussing
one of the most important questions. -
0:42 - 0:44A question that affects all of us.
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0:44 - 0:49A question people died for
100 years ago in revolutions. -
0:50 - 0:54Private ownership or state ownership?
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0:54 - 0:58Capitalism or communism?
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0:58 - 1:04Who should control the institution
that all of us spend most of our time in? -
1:04 - 1:08Who should control our companies?
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1:08 - 1:12Greedy capitalists
or mindless bureaucrats? -
1:13 - 1:18Or maybe, but just maybe, none of them?
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1:18 - 1:22Many people say, "Fuck capitalism!"
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1:22 - 1:29But, you know,
should we "fuck capitalism"? -
1:29 - 1:31(Laughter)
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1:31 - 1:34And if so, how?
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1:34 - 1:37(Laughter)
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1:38 - 1:41At this point, I have
to make a confession. -
1:41 - 1:44I am a capitalist.
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1:44 - 1:49I founded my first successful
business when I was 16, -
1:49 - 1:54and while my friends had girlfriends,
I fell in love with my company. -
1:55 - 1:57I love private ownership.
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1:57 - 2:00You know, it gives you the power
to shape the environment you live in. -
2:00 - 2:04You have an idea at night,
you can realize it the next day. -
2:04 - 2:07You identify 100% with what you own.
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2:07 - 2:09It's like having a child.
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2:09 - 2:14You feel responsible
for the company like a parent -
2:14 - 2:18If the company is struggling or ill,
you have to be there. -
2:18 - 2:23You can't hide, you can't make excuses,
and that is what's so great. -
2:23 - 2:24(Laughter)
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2:24 - 2:28That is what's so great
about private ownership. -
2:28 - 2:32It clearly defines
who is responsible and accountable. -
2:32 - 2:36Not nobody, not everybody,
you as the owner. -
2:36 - 2:39You are responsible
and accountable for it. -
2:39 - 2:42That is the big promise of ownership.
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2:43 - 2:49But, I'm here today to tell you,
this great idea of private ownership, -
2:49 - 2:50it needs us.
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2:50 - 2:52It is ill.
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2:52 - 2:55This fascinating innovation,
this history-changing idea -
2:55 - 2:59that we, as humanity,
had more than 2,000 years ago, -
2:59 - 3:00it is in deep, deep trouble.
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3:00 - 3:05It is misused against us,
against us all, against humanity. -
3:05 - 3:08And if we don't reclaim it,
if we don't reconquer it, -
3:08 - 3:12it will destroy our economy, our society,
and maybe even our planet. -
3:12 - 3:18So, please join me
to understand the illness -
3:18 - 3:21and find a cure to heal private ownership.
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3:22 - 3:27Our first stop on this journey
will be a hospital in eastern Germany. -
3:28 - 3:31When I was young, I visited it a lot.
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3:31 - 3:33My father was the director there.
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3:34 - 3:35It used to be a great hospital.
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3:35 - 3:40They had a wonderful warm
atmosphere, happy employees, -
3:40 - 3:42well-taken-care-of
patients, organic food. -
3:42 - 3:45And they made healthy profits.
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3:45 - 3:47So, nothing that required a change.
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3:47 - 3:53But in recent years,
the ownership of the hospital was sold. -
3:53 - 3:57Once, twice, three times,
eventually four times -
3:58 - 4:00to a public stock market company.
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4:00 - 4:04And each investor paid a higher price
to buy the hospital, -
4:04 - 4:07and so each investor
had to put more pressure on the hospital -
4:07 - 4:11to increase profits,
to earn back the high price they paid. -
4:11 - 4:16They forced my father to outsource
the kitchen to a low quality provider. -
4:16 - 4:19They forced him
to fire half of the doctors -
4:19 - 4:22and cut the time they're allowed
to spend per patient. -
4:22 - 4:28Today, the place is filled with
unhappy employees and frustrated patients. -
4:29 - 4:35They're now part of a large corporation
that manages 70,000 hospital beds, -
4:35 - 4:38and they receive orders
and directions from Paris, -
4:38 - 4:412,000 kilometers away
from the headquarters. -
4:42 - 4:46So decisions are made by people
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4:46 - 4:49who have literally
never been to that hospital. -
4:50 - 4:52They have no understanding
of what is needed there. -
4:52 - 4:54They don't know what it means
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4:54 - 4:56when they order doctors to spend
no more than five minutes -
4:56 - 4:58for a first conversation with patients.
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4:58 - 5:01These guys in Paris just know one thing.
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5:01 - 5:05They have to produce better numbers.
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5:05 - 5:07Otherwise, they get fired.
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5:07 - 5:11And what really drives me crazy,
we cannot blame them! -
5:11 - 5:12They're not bad people!
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5:12 - 5:14They eat organic food, etc.
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5:14 - 5:18You know, these people
are pressured by others, -
5:18 - 5:21by stock markets,
by anonymous shareholders, -
5:21 - 5:23and to be more precise,
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5:23 - 5:29by supercomputers and algorithms that do
99% of the trading on stock markets today, -
5:29 - 5:32and sell, and buy ownership
in nanoseconds. -
5:32 - 5:37These people cannot behave
like responsible owners. -
5:37 - 5:42They're not allowed
to identify with what they own. -
5:43 - 5:46They control the business,
but they're not connected to it. -
5:46 - 5:49And the hospital of my father
is just one example. -
5:50 - 5:51It happens all over.
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5:51 - 5:55Every day, hundreds
of mission-driven companies -
5:55 - 5:58get bought by large
profit-driven corporations. -
5:59 - 6:03And they all lose their caring stewards.
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6:03 - 6:06They lose their parents.
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6:06 - 6:09And they end up with ... with what?
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6:09 - 6:14With absentee owners,
with speculation owners. -
6:14 - 6:19And this eating up of small companies
by large corporations -
6:19 - 6:22doesn't only create companies
without parents. -
6:22 - 6:28It also creates a centralized economy
with fewer and fewer corporations. -
6:28 - 6:32The US has lost, in this way,
over the last 20 years, -
6:32 - 6:35half of its corporations.
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6:35 - 6:40So absentee ownership,
it's not only poisoning our companies, -
6:40 - 6:46it is the enemy of
our decentralized market society. -
6:46 - 6:51Now ladies and gentlemen,
who are these absentee owners? -
6:52 - 6:54Are these the rich?
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6:54 - 6:57Are these the super rich?
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6:57 - 6:59Are these large corporations?
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7:01 - 7:03All wrong.
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7:03 - 7:05Look at that.
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7:05 - 7:10That is where investment capital
on the stock markets comes from. -
7:10 - 7:1787% from insurances and pension funds.
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7:17 - 7:19From you all and me.
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7:20 - 7:22It's our money, that is the scandal.
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7:22 - 7:24Just imagine that,
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7:24 - 7:29we, western half-riches,
we have created a system, -
7:29 - 7:35a vicious circle that takes our money
and uses it against us. -
7:36 - 7:42You know, when I understood this,
the scales fell from my eyes. -
7:42 - 7:44You know, how is that possible?
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7:44 - 7:47Private ownership, this great idea,
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7:48 - 7:51has a double face.
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7:52 - 7:56It can create responsibility,
that's for sure. -
7:56 - 8:01But at the same time, private ownership,
as absentee ownership, -
8:01 - 8:03can destroy responsibility.
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8:03 - 8:08It can create an emptiness, a vacuum,
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8:08 - 8:12a situation in which
nobody feels responsible. -
8:12 - 8:15That was a first tough stop
on our journey. -
8:15 - 8:16Let's move on.
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8:17 - 8:19We've understood the illness, I would say.
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8:20 - 8:22Let's look for the cure.
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8:22 - 8:29What would a company look like
that had true parents? -
8:29 - 8:32A company we could really trust.
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8:32 - 8:36And this guy, Ernst Abbe,
the co-owner of Zeiss, -
8:36 - 8:40found a way to do this
for his company 130 years ago. -
8:40 - 8:44Zeiss is a typical German hidden champion.
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8:44 - 8:49A world market leader for microscopes,
optics, with 70,000 employees. -
8:49 - 8:54And none of our smartphones or laptops
could be produced without Zeiss. -
8:54 - 8:56So it's an important company.
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8:56 - 9:02Ernst Abbe thought a lot about ownership
when his co-owner passed away. -
9:02 - 9:09He asked himself,
"Have I created all this wealth? -
9:09 - 9:12Is this all my work?
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9:13 - 9:14I have not.
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9:15 - 9:18My employees have done most of it.
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9:18 - 9:22Even my invention of the microscope,
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9:22 - 9:27was only possible due to many generations
of scientists and researchers." -
9:28 - 9:30So he wrote, and I quote now,
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9:31 - 9:36"The law gives me the absolute right
over this company. -
9:36 - 9:40The law gives me the right
to take everything. -
9:41 - 9:44But I feel that is not right.
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9:44 - 9:46It doesn't all belong to me.
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9:46 - 9:50It also belongs
to employees and society." -
9:50 - 9:52So what did this man do?
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9:53 - 9:57He realized there were no good
legal forms of ownership -
9:57 - 9:59that would reflect this thinking.
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10:00 - 10:03He was an inventor,
so he invented something. -
10:03 - 10:08He used the legal form
of a non-profit foundation, -
10:08 - 10:13and then he donated the entire company
to that foundation. -
10:13 - 10:16So it's the first foundational
company in the world. -
10:16 - 10:23From that moment onwards,
Zeiss has belonged to itself. -
10:24 - 10:29No absentee owners can steer Zeiss
from far away and push them to harm us. -
10:29 - 10:31No hedge fund can come along and buy it,
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10:31 - 10:34because it's not
a tradable commodity anymore. -
10:34 - 10:40Instead, there are skilled people
who are steward owners for a certain time, -
10:40 - 10:44you know, without a right to sell
or inherit the company. -
10:44 - 10:48And profits are
either reinvested or donated. -
10:48 - 10:52Their donations have financed
several universities, -
10:52 - 10:56and the entire city of Jena in Germany
was basically upgraded by them. -
10:56 - 11:01So this company exists now
for more than 130 years, -
11:01 - 11:03it has survived several political systems,
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11:04 - 11:06and it is still highly successful.
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11:06 - 11:08I recently visited it
and employees told me -
11:08 - 11:10"the company belongs to us."
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11:10 - 11:14And the interesting thing is,
they are intrinsically motivated, -
11:14 - 11:18because they know they're not working
for somebody else's private pocket, -
11:18 - 11:20they are working for a purpose.
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11:21 - 11:28So Ernst Abbe has found a cure
to heal private ownership, -
11:29 - 11:30and by this,
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11:30 - 11:36he has redefined, he has revolutionized
the way we understand company ownership. -
11:37 - 11:40And the good news is, he's not alone.
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11:41 - 11:44Many other companies
have found the cure as well. -
11:44 - 11:48The famous company Bosch, for example,
is only owned by stewards. -
11:48 - 11:53John Lewis Partnership made
70,000 employees steward owners. -
11:54 - 11:57Rolex in Switzerland, Playmobil
and Dr. Hauschka in Germany, -
11:57 - 11:58and many, many others.
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11:58 - 12:00I studied many of them.
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12:00 - 12:04I visited them, conducted interviews,
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12:04 - 12:05and what I found,
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12:06 - 12:12they all follow two simple rules,
the two rules of steward ownership. -
12:12 - 12:17Or you could also say the two rules
of decommodification of the company. -
12:17 - 12:19So what are these two rules?
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12:20 - 12:24The first rule is
the rule of self-determination. -
12:24 - 12:30The rule of self-determination says,
make sure the company, -
12:30 - 12:35or the control right of the company,
is not a tradable commodity. -
12:36 - 12:38I say it again because it's so important.
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12:38 - 12:41Make sure the control over the company,
or the company itself, -
12:41 - 12:43is not a tradable commodity.
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12:43 - 12:46That means, the company is not a thing.
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12:46 - 12:48It's not a shoe that you can sell and buy.
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12:48 - 12:51It's not a puppet
of anonymous stock markets. -
12:51 - 12:54But it is a being.
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12:54 - 12:57It is a being that has stewards
who are only stewards -
12:57 - 13:00as long as they are connected
to the mission to the company. -
13:00 - 13:03They can't sell, they can't
just pass it on to their children. -
13:03 - 13:04So that's the first rule.
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13:04 - 13:07The second rule is the rule of purpose.
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13:08 - 13:14And the rule of purpose says,
make sure profits are seen as a means. -
13:14 - 13:19They're important, but they're a means
to an end, not an end in itself. -
13:19 - 13:21I'll repeat it, because
that's an important rule. -
13:21 - 13:25Profits are seen as a means to an end,
and not an end in itself. -
13:25 - 13:30That means, profits are mainly
reinvested or donated. -
13:31 - 13:37And this means these companies exist
to create value for us, -
13:37 - 13:41to solve problems in the world,
not to make money. -
13:42 - 13:43They exist for us.
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13:44 - 13:48Now, these two rules are very simple.
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13:48 - 13:52That's all, basically,
what I have to give to you today. -
13:52 - 13:56But they're super revolutionary
at the same time. -
13:57 - 14:02They are actually family business 2.0.
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14:03 - 14:09Instead of giving your company
to your blood relatives - -
14:09 - 14:12you know, the lottery of sperm, etc. -
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14:12 - 14:14instead of giving it
to your blood relatives, -
14:14 - 14:20you give the ownership of the company
to value and ability relatives. -
14:20 - 14:25You know, that means you make sure
the company has parents -
14:26 - 14:28and not speculation owners.
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14:28 - 14:32So our journey has led us now
to the solution. -
14:32 - 14:35It is neither state ownership
nor private ownership. -
14:35 - 14:38But it is something new,
or you could also say, -
14:38 - 14:43it's something revolutionary,
but quite old at the same time. -
14:43 - 14:47It is just true private
ownership, nothing more. -
14:47 - 14:51Or to say it differently,
it is steward ownership. -
14:51 - 14:55A steward of a company
is like a parent for a child. -
14:55 - 14:58Now, let's not stop the journey here yet.
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14:58 - 15:03Le's go on and understand
how exactly can we realize this today. -
15:03 - 15:10And of course, the state doesn't offer
steward ownership as a legal form. -
15:10 - 15:11Not yet.
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15:11 - 15:15And so you have to find ownership hacks,
you have to hack around it. -
15:15 - 15:17That's what I did with my company.
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15:17 - 15:21I put the two rules of steward ownership -
I put them up again - -
15:21 - 15:24I put them into
the articles of association, -
15:24 - 15:26into the constitution of my company.
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15:26 - 15:31When a hedge fund comes along, they can
obviously just give a lot of money, -
15:31 - 15:32and you could change the rule.
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15:32 - 15:36So to prevent this,
we founded a foundation -
15:36 - 15:40that holds a veto right,
a golden share, -
15:40 - 15:44and prevents changes to those rules.
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15:44 - 15:49Now, when I made this public,
you cannot believe how many employees -
15:49 - 15:52and how many customers
wrote me and told me -
15:52 - 15:56it changes their relationship
to our company completely. -
15:56 - 15:58They're no longer instruments
to make me rich. -
15:59 - 16:02The company is truly there for them.
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16:03 - 16:07When I talk about this
with mainstream economists -
16:07 - 16:10or mainstream lawyers,
they often say, "Armin, come on, -
16:10 - 16:14you are naive; this cannot work.
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16:14 - 16:17You're turning off
the engine of capitalism itself." -
16:17 - 16:21And I am, yes. But, the good thing is ...
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16:21 - 16:22(Laughter)
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16:23 - 16:24the good thing is,
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16:25 - 16:28many studies of hundreds
of steward-owned companies -
16:28 - 16:31prove these mainstream economists wrong.
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16:32 - 16:35Studies show these steward-owned companies
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16:35 - 16:41have a six times higher survival
probability after 40 years. -
16:41 - 16:42They live longer.
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16:42 - 16:47And they're more profitable
in the medium term and in the long term. -
16:47 - 16:53Data shows customers trust them more,
employees earn more, stay longer, -
16:53 - 16:55and are more motivated.
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16:55 - 16:58So steward ownership's actually
better for our companies, -
16:58 - 17:00and better for us all.
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17:00 - 17:03It is the right cure to this poison
of absentee ownership. -
17:03 - 17:09And that's the reason why I got together
with several other entrepreneurs -
17:09 - 17:14to found the Purpose Foundation
that helps other entrepreneurs -
17:14 - 17:17to start and transform companies
based on steward ownership. -
17:17 - 17:22We also founded Ownership
Transformation Investment Fund -
17:22 - 17:27that helps steward-owned companies,
and can buy companies off the market -
17:27 - 17:31and make sure they never have
absentee owners again, but only stewards. -
17:32 - 17:34So let me conclude.
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17:34 - 17:37We can obviously not just say,
"fuck capitalism," -
17:37 - 17:43but we can stop being puppets
of absentee owners, -
17:43 - 17:46of anonymous stock markets.
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17:46 - 17:49We all know this feeling
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17:49 - 17:54of powerlessness in face
of a gigantic anonymous system, -
17:54 - 17:57a wild animal that we call economy today.
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17:57 - 17:59But, ladies and gentlemen,
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17:59 - 18:03how can this wild animal
have so many arms to harm us -
18:03 - 18:06if we don't lend our arms to it?
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18:06 - 18:12How can it have so many feet to trample
on our economies and our environment -
18:12 - 18:15if these were not our feet?
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18:15 - 18:20How can it have any power over us
if not through us? -
18:21 - 18:23We can tame that animal.
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18:24 - 18:26We can stop being puppets.
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18:27 - 18:31We can, if we are unhappy
in our workplaces, -
18:31 - 18:35if you're a frustrated entrepreneur
or a frustrated employee, -
18:35 - 18:38we can get together with our colleagues,
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18:38 - 18:41and you can make your absentee owner
an offer to buy them out -
18:41 - 18:43and reclaim your company.
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18:44 - 18:49Let's not leave our companies
and our economy to these wild animals, -
18:49 - 18:51neither to greedy capitalists
nor mindless bureaucrats. -
18:51 - 18:53Let's reclaim it.
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18:53 - 18:54Let's reconquer it.
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18:54 - 18:59Let's become true stewards of our economy.
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18:59 - 19:02Not for profit, but for purpose.
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19:02 - 19:03Thank you.
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19:03 - 19:05(Applause) (Cheers)
- Title:
- Transforming ownership to create a better economy | Armin Steuernagel | TEDxZurich
- Description:
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Private ownership of companies drives our economic system but it has also created corporations that put profit above everything else, a divided society and a planet on the brink of destruction. Armin Steuernagel proposes a new way to think about ownership: steward ownership. It replaces executives with leaders who are truly responsible and accountable. It creates an economy where companies are owned by the most able, not by the highest bidder, and where a purpose is at the heart of every company’s DNA.
A serial entrepreneur and author, Armin founded his first business at the age of 16. He is co-founder and managing partner of Purpose Foundation and Purpose Capital. He works to help companies stay mission-driven by transforming the ownership structure: they become steward-owned companies. Armin is member of the Club of Rome, TT30, co-founder of the international NGO Democracy International and co-founder of the Think Tank Neopolis Network.
This talk was given at a TEDx event using the TED conference format but independently organized by a local community. Learn more at https://www.ted.com/tedx
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