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Khuda se Mutaliq Sawalat aur Ilm
al Kalam ka Jawab - PART 2
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by Jawed Ahmad Ghamidi
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[Hassan Ilyas] Yesterday, I asked you a
question related to hypothetical statements
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that we use in relation to Allah,
nauzubillah (I seek refuge with Allah)
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That Allah can lie, or he can make a rock
which even he can lift.
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You detailed out your views on these
kind of discussions.
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There is a relative aspect and doubt, I
want you to explain us in detail.
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When you are in a discussion related to
the existence of God,
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the argument behind confirmation for
God's being,
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or the various aspects of atheism or
agnosticism that are put forward.
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It is said that you logically conclude
the arguments with intellectual evidence.
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And the other party to the discussion is
puzzled with your style.
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My question to you today is that,
Even you include these
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intellectual evidences and arguments in
your discussions,
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People often say that a conversation
with Ghamidi Sahib is very rational,
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logical, enlightened and intellectual.
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So, even your paradigm answers
these modern suspicion or doubt
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by way of intellectual and logical
arguments.
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Then what about simple and inherent
arguments given by the Quran
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as you often say?
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[Javed Ahmad Ghamidi] Don't you consider
the inherent arguments given
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by the Quran as logical?
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What I had earlier mentioned was that,
things that evolve from a specific
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philosophical or logical background and
people present these questions just to
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?? of the religion.
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These are the things that clearly convey
that your addressee does not have that
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perceptive attitude to understand or dive
into something of this imperative nature.
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In that case you should follow ??
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Arguments will be have there significance.
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The Quran itself is an example of
reasoning,
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But what sort of argumentation?
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I had explained that reasoning only.
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I often present this reasoning, infact
I have penned it down in my book Meezan.
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If you read the topic of
"Believe in Allah" in my book,
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I have explained in detail that how
Allah himself has presented arguments
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on his own essence.
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That is the argumentation that I term
as Fitri "simple" reasoning.
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The argumentation that is based on the
intellect of common people.
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Its evident that when we focus our
attention towards God, and say that
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look around the world, try to comprehend
what is around you,
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try to look at your own existence, try
to understand how God has bestowed
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different abilities and wisdom to
different creatures in the world.
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So, are they only trying to find reasons?
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I was actually trying to explain the way
of reasoning.
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I have never said that you should
accept the religious cases
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without proper reasoning.
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Rather, I was trying to throw light on
how the Quran educates us
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to find logic in the religion and
religious affairs.
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There are two types of things: the
first one is the knowledge that is
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limited to our own understanding, and the
discussion of argument is either based on observation or experience. In fact this is also the way of argumentation which is employed in the religion. For instance, there are few things that have been prohibited in the religion. Those things that have been prohibited in the religion and why they having prohibited in the religion . If you want to base your argument on why certain things are prohibited in the religion on experience or observation then you can do that. Certain things are related to the world that is hidden from us and we cannot see that, We cannot observe or experience it. Similarly, same is the case with the being of God. Because it is not possible the God can be shown to you or else you can be called up into the heavens to observe God or his being. So here in this case we can make logical conclusions.