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Khuda se Mutaliq Sawalat aur Ilm al Kalam ka Jawab - Part 2 - Javed Ahmed Ghamidi

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    Khuda se Mutaliq Sawalat aur Ilm
    al Kalam ka Jawab - PART 2
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    by Jawed Ahmad Ghamidi
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    [Hassan Ilyas] Yesterday, I asked you a
    question related to hypothetical statements
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    that we use in relation to Allah,
    nauzubillah (I seek refuge with Allah)
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    That Allah can lie, or he can make a rock
    which even he can lift.
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    You detailed out your views on these
    kind of discussions.
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    There is a relative aspect and doubt, I
    want you to explain us in detail.
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    When you are in a discussion related to
    the existence of God,
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    the argument behind confirmation for
    God's being,
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    or the various aspects of atheism or
    agnosticism that are put forward.
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    It is said that you logically conclude
    the arguments with intellectual evidence.
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    And the other party to the discussion is
    puzzled with your style.
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    My question to you today is that,
    Even you include these
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    intellectual evidences and arguments in
    your discussions,
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    People often say that a conversation
    with Ghamidi Sahib is very rational,
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    logical, enlightened and intellectual.
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    So, even your paradigm answers
    these modern suspicion or doubt
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    by way of intellectual and logical
    arguments.
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    Then what about simple and inherent
    arguments given by the Quran
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    as you often say?
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    [Javed Ahmad Ghamidi] Don't you consider
    the inherent arguments given
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    by the Quran as logical?
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    What I had earlier mentioned was that,
    things that evolve from a specific
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    philosophical or logical background and
    people present these questions just to
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    ?? of the religion.
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    These are the things that clearly convey
    that your addressee does not have that
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    perceptive attitude to understand or dive
    into something of this imperative nature.
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    In that case you should follow ??
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    Arguments will be have there significance.
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    The Quran itself is an example of
    reasoning,
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    But what sort of argumentation?
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    I had explained that reasoning only.
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    I often present this reasoning, infact
    I have penned it down in my book Meezan.
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    If you read the topic of
    "Believe in Allah" in my book,
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    I have explained in detail that how
    Allah himself has presented arguments
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    on his own essence.
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    That is the argumentation that I term
    as Fitri "simple" reasoning.
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    The argumentation that is based on the
    intellect of common people.
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    Its evident that when we focus our
    attention towards God, and say that
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    look around the world, try to comprehend
    what is around you,
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    try to look at your own existence, try
    to understand how God has bestowed
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    different abilities and wisdom to
    different creatures in the world.
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    So, are they only trying to find reasons?
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    I was actually trying to explain the way
    of reasoning.
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    I have never said that you should
    accept the religious cases
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    without proper reasoning.
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    Rather, I was trying to throw light on
    how the Quran educates us
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    to find logic in the religion and
    religious affairs.
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    There are two types of things: the
    first one is the knowledge that is
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    limited to our own understanding, and the
    discussion of argument is either based on observation or experience. In fact this is also the way of argumentation which is employed in the religion. For instance, there are few things that have been prohibited in the religion. Those things that have been prohibited in the religion and why they having prohibited in the religion . If you want to base your argument on why certain things are prohibited in the religion on experience or observation then you can do that. Certain things are related to the world that is hidden from us and we cannot see that, We cannot observe or experience it. Similarly, same is the case with the being of God. Because it is not possible the God can be shown to you or else you can be called up into the heavens to observe God or his being. So here in this case we can make logical conclusions.
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Khuda se Mutaliq Sawalat aur Ilm al Kalam ka Jawab - Part 2 - Javed Ahmed Ghamidi
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