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Dialogue: 0,0:00:08.84,0:00:12.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Hassan Ilyas] In the Name of Allah, the\NMost Merciful, the Most Compassionate.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:12.20,0:00:14.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Assalamu alaikum I am Mohammad \NHassan Ilyas and right now
Dialogue: 0,0:00:14.50,0:00:16.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we are in Dallas at the Ghamdi Centre of \NIslamic Learning.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:16.98,0:00:20.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,ISNA which is the oldest organization\Nof Muslims in America.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:21.06,0:00:24.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,ISNA is having its annual convocation but\Nphysical participation
Dialogue: 0,0:00:24.33,0:00:26.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was hampered due to Covid-19.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:26.39,0:00:29.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The organizers requested that we should \Nrecord
Dialogue: 0,0:00:29.70,0:00:32.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,some conversations with Ghamidi Sahab.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:32.31,0:00:34.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for the participants of this convocation \Nand
Dialogue: 0,0:00:34.89,0:00:39.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that these conversations are related\Nto the socio-religious challenges
Dialogue: 0,0:00:39.70,0:00:42.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,facing Muslims within the United States.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:42.82,0:00:45.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Today we are here for this purpose,\Nand we are having with us
Dialogue: 0,0:00:45.70,0:00:47.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Mr. Javed Ahmad Ghamdi Sahab \NAsalamu alaikum.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:47.96,0:00:49.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Javed Ahmad Ghamidi] \NWalikum Asalam
Dialogue: 0,0:00:49.12,0:00:50.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Ilyas] Ghamidi Sahab, thank you \Nvery much for your time.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:50.96,0:00:54.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,At this time you are being heard by people\Nassociated with ISNA all over the world
Dialogue: 0,0:00:54.97,0:00:57.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and especially the Muslim community in \NAmerica.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:57.30,0:01:01.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I would like to ask you first,\Nthat 57 years ago today,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:01.30,0:01:03.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the foundation of this organization was\Nlaid
Dialogue: 0,0:01:03.95,0:01:05.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as "The Islamic Society of North America”,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:05.96,0:01:09.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which is a group of Muslims who settled \Nin Western countries
Dialogue: 0,0:01:09.44,0:01:13.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then became part of the community \Nand through the systematic efforts
Dialogue: 0,0:01:13.12,0:01:16.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of their organization, they tried to \Nadvance their mission and vision
Dialogue: 0,0:01:16.36,0:01:19.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,by way of helping the people to develop \Nsocial capital and education.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:19.52,0:01:22.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,How do you see this whole idea and\Nplease help us with
Dialogue: 0,0:01:22.60,0:01:24.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,your personal opinion about ISNA?
Dialogue: 0,0:01:24.20,0:01:27.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Ghamidi] This is an extraordinary \Nachievement, and
Dialogue: 0,0:01:27.46,0:01:29.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it should be greatly appreciated.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:29.41,0:01:34.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Wherever we go, the needs of human society\Ncome to the fore.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:35.68,0:01:39.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When we move to a foreign place or a \Nforeign society
Dialogue: 0,0:01:39.68,0:01:46.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or a place where our culture, tradition, \Ncivilization is not being followed,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:46.66,0:01:48.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we will face difficulties there.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:48.69,0:01:54.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,These problems can be social, cultural \Nand sometimes psychological.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:55.37,0:02:01.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The best way out of all these problems\Nfor a Muslim or any other nation,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:01.41,0:02:04.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is to organize its own community.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:05.19,0:02:09.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,People who are associated with it, who\Nbelong to the same tradition,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:09.55,0:02:14.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who come from the same background, not \Nonly do they understand their issues,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:15.09,0:02:19.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but also have a special background which\Naids them in resolving them.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:19.37,0:02:23.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,With all these things in mind, creating \Nsuch organizations and
Dialogue: 0,0:02:23.27,0:02:28.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,creating a bond between them, even if it \Nis more than one, it does not matter.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:28.74,0:02:34.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,However, the ideal situation is that \Nwherever Muslims go,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:34.13,0:02:39.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,only one organization should come into\Nexistence because such organizations
Dialogue: 0,0:02:39.47,0:02:41.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,have no ideological aspect.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:41.93,0:02:45.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The reason for establishing these \Norganizations is to check,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:45.15,0:02:48.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if Muslims have any specific needs\Nas a community.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:48.25,0:02:51.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Such organizations are formed keeping in\Nview the aforementioned objectives.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:51.75,0:02:57.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So in my opinion it is difficult to create\Nunity in the organizations that are
Dialogue: 0,0:02:57.15,0:03:01.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,formed on the basis of ideology or in \Nwhich there are ideological discussions
Dialogue: 0,0:03:01.71,0:03:04.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and perhaps there is no need for it\Nas well.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:04.22,0:03:05.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Ilyas] okay
Dialogue: 0,0:03:05.18,0:03:09.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Ghamidi] Their goal is that they address\Nyour mind and in this respect,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:09.18,0:03:13.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for example, there are different \Ngroups, sects among Muslims,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:13.18,0:03:18.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there is a difference in thinking, which \Nleads to formation of an organisation,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:18.39,0:03:20.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as well as institutions.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:20.73,0:03:26.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but as a community, Muslim too face \Nsome challenges.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:27.23,0:03:31.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,For instance to help Muslims in managing\Ntheir mosques, guiding them in matters
Dialogue: 0,0:03:31.23,0:03:36.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of fasting and prayers, and meeting their\Nneeds in regard to Hajj and ‘Umrah,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:36.42,0:03:38.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or in the case of funeral arrangements,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:38.72,0:03:42.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if all these needs are put in front of \Nthem and their general education
Dialogue: 0,0:03:42.72,0:03:46.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is made the goal, that is, something on \Nwhich there is no disagreement.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:46.72,0:03:51.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,As we usually say, elementary education is\Nbroad-based.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:51.98,0:03:56.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If an organization is formed, I think it \Nis of paramount importance.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:57.38,0:04:01.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You may be aware, we in India\Nonce had reputed scholars
Dialogue: 0,0:04:01.38,0:04:07.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who put forward the view that now that\NMuslims' political system has collapsed
Dialogue: 0,0:04:07.66,0:04:12.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so, there should be a collective system\Nfor Muslims of the subcontinent.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:13.57,0:04:15.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This dream could not be\Nachieved,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:15.81,0:04:19.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but when the Muslims have come out of \None place and they have started residing
Dialogue: 0,0:04:19.81,0:04:23.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in different countries, I think that \Nsuch organizations
Dialogue: 0,0:04:23.21,0:04:29.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,must exist and in my opinion they \Nshould try to transcend themselves
Dialogue: 0,0:04:29.40,0:04:31.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from differences of opinion as regards\Nideologies,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:31.81,0:04:35.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,whether there are intellectual \Ndifferences, juristic differences or
Dialogue: 0,0:04:35.54,0:04:38.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,differences of any kind.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:38.17,0:04:43.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The topics that should be discussed here \Nare those that the whole community needs,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:43.15,0:04:46.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what the Muslim society as a whole\Nneeds.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:46.62,0:04:51.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What their cultural traditions need, what \Nthey need regarding agreed-upon festivals.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:51.67,0:04:54.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Keeping all these things in view that \Nare agreed upon,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:54.89,0:04:58.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,establishing such a system is a necessity \Nto me as air and water are needed.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:58.92,0:05:00.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Ilyas] So we will continue this topic.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:00.55,0:05:03.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I will state that most of your listeners \Nare Muslims
Dialogue: 0,0:05:03.82,0:05:05.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the United States at this time.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:05.52,0:05:09.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I will also ask you a few questions \Nwhich we have received from them
Dialogue: 0,0:05:09.92,0:05:13.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so that you can put forward your point of \Nview about those who immigrated
Dialogue: 0,0:05:13.18,0:05:15.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to the United States in large \Nnumber during 1960 -1970’s.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:15.86,0:05:19.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They brought their religious and cultural\Ntradition here, but for the new generation
Dialogue: 0,0:05:19.96,0:05:25.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we see that their is a crisis about \Nreligious tendencies, cultural aspects,
Dialogue: 0,0:05:25.29,0:05:27.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,social backgrounds, clothing, \Neverything.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:28.20,0:05:34.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Please, tell me that how parents should\Npersuade their children in these issues,
Dialogue: 0,0:05:34.17,0:05:37.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so that they should stick to the \Nsame ideas and principles.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:37.52,0:05:41.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'll offer an example: we know in western\Ncountries the dress code is different
Dialogue: 0,0:05:41.78,0:05:45.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and our Muslim cultural backgrounds have\Ndifferent dress codes.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:45.93,0:05:49.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So how will the Muslim parents who\Nhave settled here, convince their children
Dialogue: 0,0:05:49.62,0:05:54.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,wear simple and decent clothes as\Nwas the traditions back home?
Dialogue: 0,0:05:54.92,0:05:58.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Ghamidi] The first thing is that wherever\Nthe parents come from,
Dialogue: 0,0:05:58.92,0:06:02.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they have brought their tradition\Nwith them, their way of life,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:02.92,0:06:05.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,their way of conversing and \Nhow they live.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:05.79,0:06:07.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The child observes this same \Nmanner.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:07.88,0:06:13.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In the first stage, I always say that how\Nthe parents want their children to become
Dialogue: 0,0:06:13.86,0:06:19.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they should become an example of the same\Nin their home and their society,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:19.68,0:06:23.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because children will see their parents \Nand when they will see them,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:23.68,0:06:26.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,after that the first thing they do when \Nthey see them,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:26.98,0:06:30.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and what they may not feel the need \Nto do in their home countries,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:30.30,0:06:33.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is to create awareness of their own \Ncultural traditions.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:33.14,0:06:37.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,One thing is for sure, whether you \Nwere born in Morocco, or
Dialogue: 0,0:06:37.54,0:06:41.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the subcontinent or somewhere in\Nthe Arab world, and
Dialogue: 0,0:06:41.46,0:06:45.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you have lived in the traditions that \Nwere there and we automatically tend
Dialogue: 0,0:06:45.14,0:06:48.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to adopt these traditions and there is\Nnot much hesitation about accepting
Dialogue: 0,0:06:48.99,0:06:52.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the things that are going on \Nin a society or its surrounding.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:52.32,0:06:54.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But every time you go to another \Nsociety,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:54.96,0:07:01.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,whatever you choose or insist on, requires\Na reasoning and an argument behind it,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:01.89,0:07:05.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so everyone should know when he is \Ngoing to another country,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:06.08,0:07:09.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that if he has a religious tradition, \Nwhat is the reason behind it?
Dialogue: 0,0:07:09.78,0:07:13.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If he’s following certain cultural mores,\Nwhat is the history behind it?
Dialogue: 0,0:07:13.56,0:07:18.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The way one dresses, engages with people,\Nand interacts with others it should be
Dialogue: 0,0:07:18.77,0:07:21.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,known as to what are the \Nfoundations of that?
Dialogue: 0,0:07:21.09,0:07:25.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The first thing is that the parents \Nthemselves should create
Dialogue: 0,0:07:25.09,0:07:26.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,awareness about it.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:26.25,0:07:29.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In other words, they should educate\Nthemselves.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:29.26,0:07:31.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They should arrange for their education\Nin these matters.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:31.60,0:07:35.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In our case, I have submitted to you that \Nthese things are usually adopted
Dialogue: 0,0:07:35.60,0:07:39.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,by observing the society, hearing from the\Nparents, which is not
Dialogue: 0,0:07:39.60,0:07:44.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a conscious decision, so it should \Nbe turned into a conscious activity.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:44.78,0:07:49.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Once upon a time, some of our scholars\Nused the term that a Muslim needs to be
Dialogue: 0,0:07:49.64,0:07:54.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,not just Muslim but a conscious Muslim, \Nthat is, if he renews his faith,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:54.69,0:07:57.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then the renewal of faith has not been \Nsaid here in
Dialogue: 0,0:07:57.43,0:07:58.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,any jurisprudential sense.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:58.99,0:08:02.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Rather, it is being said in the sense\Nthat you have to know yourself,
Dialogue: 0,0:08:02.24,0:08:04.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you have to develop self-knowledge \Nand self-identity.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:04.76,0:08:06.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If you are a Muslim, \Nwhy you are a Muslim?
Dialogue: 0,0:08:06.72,0:08:09.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If you have a cultural background, then \Nwhat is the state of it?
Dialogue: 0,0:08:09.82,0:08:12.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What arguments do you have for accepting\Nthose cultural conditions?
Dialogue: 0,0:08:12.68,0:08:15.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You should have knowledge \Npertaining to these things.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:16.07,0:08:20.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Obviously, not all people have the same \Naptitude for knowledge,
Dialogue: 0,0:08:20.07,0:08:23.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so they should try to understand as \Nmuch as they can.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:23.93,0:08:27.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They should try to educate their children \Nabout the same and
Dialogue: 0,0:08:27.25,0:08:30.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they should rationally present these \Nthings to their children.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:30.22,0:08:34.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,To suggest that they'll convince them\Nthrough force, won't be possible today
Dialogue: 0,0:08:34.18,0:08:36.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Perhaps those times have passed.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:36.58,0:08:41.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,These things are no longer possible \Nin our own countries or even globally.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:41.59,0:08:46.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We have entered a world in which each \Nand every culture
Dialogue: 0,0:08:46.47,0:08:52.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is becoming part of a global civilization\Nin spite of their differing identities.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:52.31,0:08:57.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And when such a \Nsituation arises, then you have to explain
Dialogue: 0,0:08:57.82,0:09:01.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,why you have adopted all those\Nthings that you have.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:01.03,0:09:04.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In this scenario, you can no longer \Nrely on parental authority.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:04.90,0:09:09.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Then you should try to find out what \Nbackground you are from.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:09.45,0:09:14.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You may be from a Persian background \Nor you may be from an Arab background,
Dialogue: 0,0:09:14.26,0:09:16.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you may be from the subcontinent.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:16.62,0:09:21.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Wherever you are from, your Islamic \Nlanguage, you might wonder how a language
Dialogue: 0,0:09:21.60,0:09:23.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,can be divided into Islamic and \Nnon-Islamic?
Dialogue: 0,0:09:23.99,0:09:25.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Of course it is...
Dialogue: 0,0:09:25.07,0:09:26.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,How is it so?
Dialogue: 0,0:09:26.42,0:09:32.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Just as we urge people in our own \Ncountries to learn the English language.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:32.94,0:09:34.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What is the reason behind that?
Dialogue: 0,0:09:34.82,0:09:38.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The reason is that it has become the \Nlanguage of modern sciences.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:38.21,0:09:41.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There are other languages of modern \Nknowledge too but we are referring
Dialogue: 0,0:09:41.70,0:09:45.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to that language through which many new \Nsciences are now reaching us
Dialogue: 0,0:09:45.70,0:09:49.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and if we want access those sciences, \Nthen we too must master that language.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:49.70,0:09:56.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In the same way, our religion \Ncame to Arabia, that is,
Dialogue: 0,0:09:56.66,0:09:59.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I mean the form of Islam that we\Nhave received through
Dialogue: 0,0:09:59.40,0:10:02.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Muhammad, the Messenger of God (pbuh)
Dialogue: 0,0:10:02.47,0:10:06.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It is the religion of all the Prophets, \Nand it has always been Islam.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:06.47,0:10:10.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But when it was renewed by the \NProphet (pbuh) and then it was
Dialogue: 0,0:10:10.47,0:10:14.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,given to the world and the Quran \Nwas revealed in Arabic,
Dialogue: 0,0:10:14.43,0:10:17.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the Prophet (pbuh) himself addressed us \Nin this language.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:17.33,0:10:21.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Hence, all our sciences began in this \Nlanguage. Then came the second period
Dialogue: 0,0:10:21.72,0:10:25.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of Persian language and then after that \NUrdu language got this status.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:25.10,0:10:28.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It is also a case with some other \Nlanguages that they have their
Dialogue: 0,0:10:28.24,0:10:32.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,own religious background but if you \Nlook carefully whatever knowledge
Dialogue: 0,0:10:32.24,0:10:36.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,has come about with respect to religion\Nthose great people have
Dialogue: 0,0:10:36.72,0:10:40.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,written in these languages only and it has\Ncome into existence through them.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:40.52,0:10:44.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, at least, one of these languages must\Nnecessarily be taught to children.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:44.65,0:10:50.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It is also important because you want to \Nexplain your religion, because
Dialogue: 0,0:10:50.30,0:10:52.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you also want to transmit your culture,
Dialogue: 0,0:10:52.92,0:10:56.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and you want to keep them connected to \Nyour traditions.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:56.92,0:11:02.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It is also important because a person’s \Nmemory is shaped by his past
Dialogue: 0,0:11:02.24,0:11:05.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and you don’t want to see them alienated \Nfrom the past.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:05.83,0:11:09.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,These things have their respective \Nbackground and
Dialogue: 0,0:11:09.50,0:11:12.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they embody themselves in\Nthe fabric of language.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:12.76,0:11:16.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In other words, language is not just \Na means of communication.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:16.76,0:11:20.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It is a big mistake of people to think\Nthat there are such-and-such facts
Dialogue: 0,0:11:20.63,0:11:24.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and If you translate them into such-and\Nsuch language, the issue will be resolved
Dialogue: 0,0:11:24.10,0:11:28.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It doesn't end there. It means that when \Nan advanced level of knowledge is created,
Dialogue: 0,0:11:28.55,0:11:32.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it is expressed via the pens and mouths of\Nhighly intellectual people.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:33.14,0:11:37.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And unless and until people are in \Na position to benefit from them directly,
Dialogue: 0,0:11:37.50,0:11:41.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,after reaching a certain level of \Nknowledge,
Dialogue: 0,0:11:41.05,0:11:43.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,an individual is not influenced by their \Nthought.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:43.59,0:11:45.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Parents will play a role in teaching their \Nchildren,
Dialogue: 0,0:11:45.70,0:11:47.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,will learn from their surroundings.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:47.02,0:11:51.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,People will learn from their teachers. \NThen once those big questions arise,
Dialogue: 0,0:11:51.81,0:11:56.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then it is important that they are aware \Nof the intellectual heritage of Muslims.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:57.17,0:12:02.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and get to know its great people so that\Nthey can benefit from the intelligentsia.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:03.52,0:12:08.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It is the intelligentsia that keeps you\Nconnected to its culture,
Dialogue: 0,0:12:08.04,0:12:12.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,religious traditions and to its \Nideology, if it has one.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:12.03,0:12:14.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I always give my \Nown example that when
Dialogue: 0,0:12:14.85,0:12:20.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was trained by my parents, I understood \Nsome things and observed other things.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:20.59,0:12:24.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Right from the beginning I got acquainted \Nwith Abul Kalam Azad,
Dialogue: 0,0:12:24.94,0:12:28.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Iqbal, Syed Abul A’al Sahab Maududi and \NShibli Nomani.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:28.74,0:12:31.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,These were the elders with \Nwhom I got acquainted,
Dialogue: 0,0:12:31.28,0:12:36.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,whose writings came to light and \NI had access to their writings.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:36.90,0:12:43.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,As a result, there was no need for me \Nto fall back on may parents for my doubts.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:43.92,0:12:47.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We must also realize this need and \Nprovide educational opportunities
Dialogue: 0,0:12:47.92,0:12:50.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to our children accordingly.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:50.39,0:12:52.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Ilyas] Totally, I would like to conclude\Nwith last two questions.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:52.54,0:12:56.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The children nowadays studying in\NHigh schools, Universities and Colleges;
Dialogue: 0,0:12:56.54,0:13:00.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they have a common question to which\Nparents have no answer which
Dialogue: 0,0:13:00.54,0:13:04.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is that if they are choosing a partner \Nfor marriage,
Dialogue: 0,0:13:04.25,0:13:07.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they argue that there are non-Muslims \Njust as there are Muslims,
Dialogue: 0,0:13:07.45,0:13:11.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in that they have good morals, they are \Nalso doing good deeds,
Dialogue: 0,0:13:11.45,0:13:15.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they are also doing charity work, so what \Nis the reason that a Muslim boy
Dialogue: 0,0:13:15.45,0:13:18.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or girl at the time of getting married,\Nshould choose a muslim partner
Dialogue: 0,0:13:18.84,0:13:22.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as religion has made it obligatory for \Nthem to choose only from the Muslims.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:22.73,0:13:26.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Is their any rational explanation to it \Nwhich the parents can present?
Dialogue: 0,0:13:26.89,0:13:30.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Ghamidi] You said that they have \Ngood morals and good education.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:31.08,0:13:33.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Why do they need these things?
Dialogue: 0,0:13:33.36,0:13:40.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because these are some values on \Nwhich you are not ready to compromise.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:40.36,0:13:48.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Which means that a functional home would\Nbe possible only with good values.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:48.32,0:13:52.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It means that morality is an issue \Nfor you.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:52.32,0:13:56.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You value it. You want to look for it.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:56.32,0:13:58.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You call it a necessity of life.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:58.71,0:14:02.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Same is the case with religion.\NIf religion is your concern,
Dialogue: 0,0:14:02.03,0:14:06.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if you think that the decision is to be\Nbased on religion and this decision
Dialogue: 0,0:14:06.83,0:14:11.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is to be made on the Day of Judgment and \Nmy children have to adhere
Dialogue: 0,0:14:11.11,0:14:15.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to a religion and my society has to \Nbe molded by a religion
Dialogue: 0,0:14:15.11,0:14:18.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then that means that religion is \Nan issue for you.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:18.50,0:14:22.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If religion matters to you, then it \Nshould matter to you
Dialogue: 0,0:14:22.50,0:14:26.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in marriage as well. \NIt is a very simple rational point.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:26.34,0:14:28.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And should be looked at like that.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:28.22,0:14:30.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There are those things that I consider \Nimportant,
Dialogue: 0,0:14:30.70,0:14:35.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,those that I consider to be a cause for \Nconcern,
Dialogue: 0,0:14:35.89,0:14:37.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are the sort of things that I analyse.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:37.90,0:14:40.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I will analyse the values of the other \Nperson whom I have to marry
Dialogue: 0,0:14:40.71,0:14:42.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I have to marry.\NI want to build a home.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:42.55,0:14:44.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It’s a lifelong decision.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:44.08,0:14:45.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I will have children.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:45.38,0:14:46.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They have to learn.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:46.81,0:14:51.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So the real issue is that religion is no \Nlonger relevant for children.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:52.04,0:14:55.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Religion is no longer a part of \Ntheir intellect,
Dialogue: 0,0:14:55.06,0:14:58.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,their thoughts and their life.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:58.48,0:15:02.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They see that the parents want to force \Nthem to adhere to their religion
Dialogue: 0,0:15:02.48,0:15:07.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and this again raises the question in \Nfront of them as to why religion
Dialogue: 0,0:15:07.25,0:15:11.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,should become an obstacle in the way \Nof what they like and who they love.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:11.82,0:15:16.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This question will continue to come up \Nuntil we present religion to our children
Dialogue: 0,0:15:16.94,0:15:22.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in such a way that it does becomes \Nconstitutive in a moral way
Dialogue: 0,0:15:22.32,0:15:24.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of their intellectual and cultural being.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:24.92,0:15:27.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When that happens, they will stop \Nposing such questions.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:27.73,0:15:31.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Hassan] Please will you also shed light \Non whether Muslims
Dialogue: 0,0:15:31.19,0:15:35.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,should be involved in the local or \Nnational politics of the United States,
Dialogue: 0,0:15:35.92,0:15:41.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It is often suggested that there are a few\Nmajor parties that have their own
Dialogue: 0,0:15:41.25,0:15:46.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,manifestos and there are things in those \Nmanifestos that are also against Islam,
Dialogue: 0,0:15:46.64,0:15:49.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so if a person becomes a part of these \Nparties and
Dialogue: 0,0:15:49.63,0:15:51.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,becomes active in local politics,
Dialogue: 0,0:15:51.26,0:15:54.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then is that an issue from a \Nreligious point of view?
Dialogue: 0,0:15:54.38,0:15:56.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Ghamidi] Of course, that should be the \Ncase.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:56.58,0:15:59.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I ask you to consider the countries you \Ncome to as your own once
Dialogue: 0,0:15:59.86,0:16:01.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you have acquired their citizenship.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:01.92,0:16:05.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You should feel a sense of belonging \Nand loyalty to that land.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:05.71,0:16:09.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You should think about the development \Nof that country and
Dialogue: 0,0:16:09.38,0:16:11.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when you have all these things in mind,
Dialogue: 0,0:16:11.76,0:16:16.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then if you have a political acumen in \Nyou, then you will definitely
Dialogue: 0,0:16:16.20,0:16:19.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,participate in politics. In our culture, \Nmost people are still associated
Dialogue: 0,0:16:19.88,0:16:22.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with the politics of their former \Ncountries and mentally
Dialogue: 0,0:16:22.42,0:16:24.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they are still living in the countries\Nof their birth.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:24.48,0:16:28.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They should be fully integrated to the \Nland they have chosen for themselves.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:28.38,0:16:32.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They must understand the politics and \Nconditions of the land they belong to and
Dialogue: 0,0:16:32.22,0:16:34.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,should participate in political parties.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:34.08,0:16:39.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In democratic countries, it is accepted \Nthat you can live with different opinions.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:40.13,0:16:44.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Explain your differences of opinion and \Nif you are huge in number,
Dialogue: 0,0:16:44.13,0:16:48.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then you will start affecting those \Nmanifestos as well.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:48.38,0:16:50.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It will also affect its cultural outcome.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:50.87,0:16:56.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If you will remain unrelated, then you \Nwill only suffer the consequences.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:56.00,0:16:57.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You will have no share in it.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:57.91,0:17:01.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That’s why in my opinion if people are \Nhaving a political acumen,
Dialogue: 0,0:17:01.53,0:17:02.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they must participate.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:03.19,0:17:05.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Hassan] Alright. Finally, I would like \Na message from you
Dialogue: 0,0:17:05.71,0:17:07.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and we will end with the same \Nmessage.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:07.17,0:17:10.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We are well aware that our religion\Nhas covered everything
Dialogue: 0,0:17:10.00,0:17:12.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,related to a human being and his or\Nher ethical life.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:12.44,0:17:15.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Do you think that Muslims should learn \Nsomething from
Dialogue: 0,0:17:15.16,0:17:18.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the western culture and society after \Nthey have become a part of it
Dialogue: 0,0:17:18.39,0:17:21.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and if that is the case, then what are \Nthose things that they should learn?
Dialogue: 0,0:17:21.98,0:17:25.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Ghamidi] They have come because there\Nis some attraction for them here,
Dialogue: 0,0:17:25.64,0:17:30.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that is, how these societies have \Nmade their journey,
Dialogue: 0,0:17:30.30,0:17:33.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,how they have gone through different\Nstages, how they have moved on from
Dialogue: 0,0:17:33.89,0:17:35.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,their past errors.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:35.09,0:17:38.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What happened to them \Nwhen the Renaissance took place
Dialogue: 0,0:17:38.55,0:17:44.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and what consequences did they face \Nwhen there was revival of the sciences?
Dialogue: 0,0:17:44.49,0:17:51.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What affects has modern science, its \Ninventions and
Dialogue: 0,0:17:51.20,0:17:54.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,discoveries had on their minds?
Dialogue: 0,0:17:54.66,0:17:58.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We should study the consequences those \Ndiscoveries have had on our societies.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:58.64,0:18:00.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There is a lot to learn.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:00.99,0:18:04.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The fact is that it’s not just about the \Ninventions.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:04.44,0:18:09.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It is not only airplane, the Internet, \Nradio and television that
Dialogue: 0,0:18:09.59,0:18:11.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,have had serious consequences.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:11.91,0:18:17.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Extraordinary work has been carried out \Nin the social sciences or sociology.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:17.42,0:18:20.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Similarly, how should the organization of \Nthe society be?
Dialogue: 0,0:18:20.19,0:18:24.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,How should the political system be \Nestablished from the bottom to the top?
Dialogue: 0,0:18:24.38,0:18:27.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The institutes that are constituted for\Nrunning a political system like
Dialogue: 0,0:18:27.74,0:18:31.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,legislature, executive and judiciary and \Nwhat will be their mutual roles.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:31.97,0:18:34.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There is a lot to learn from these things.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:34.68,0:18:37.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,A believer should always be \Nwilling to learn.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:37.32,0:18:41.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Knowledge cannot be divided into \NWest or East.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:41.35,0:18:45.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The correct rule is that the Al hikmatu\Nzaalatul moomin.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:45.57,0:18:50.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The job of a believer is to understand \Neverything in the light of his religion,
Dialogue: 0,0:18:50.100,0:18:55.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to understand it in terms of his cultural\Nvalues,
Dialogue: 0,0:18:55.08,0:18:59.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and take whatever is right in it as his\Nown inheritance.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:59.92,0:19:05.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And if there is something wrong, be\Nit even in our own culture or society,
Dialogue: 0,0:19:05.59,0:19:09.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it is our moral duty\Nto point out those shortcomings.
Dialogue: 0,0:19:09.03,0:19:12.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Same should be the case here \Nin these societies,
Dialogue: 0,0:19:12.15,0:19:14.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We will be of service here in a similar \Nmanner.
Dialogue: 0,0:19:14.80,0:19:18.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It can be the case that those things that \Nare wrong according to us,
Dialogue: 0,0:19:18.15,0:19:24.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,even if we understand the right and stand \Nwith it and explain the mistake,
Dialogue: 0,0:19:24.74,0:19:29.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then this society and its future \Ngenerations will also be grateful to us.
Dialogue: 0,0:19:29.06,0:19:31.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Hassan] We are out of time, Ghamidi\Nsb.
Dialogue: 0,0:19:31.09,0:19:34.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We included Ghamidi sahab \Nremotely in the annual convocation
Dialogue: 0,0:19:34.22,0:19:37.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of Islamic Society of North America ISNA,
Dialogue: 0,0:19:37.20,0:19:40.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and his thoughts reached \Nall the participants.
Dialogue: 0,0:19:40.14,0:19:44.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We are thankful on behalf of the \Norganization as well
Dialogue: 0,0:19:44.12,0:19:46.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for allowing us to express our\Nviews.
Dialogue: 0,0:19:46.11,0:19:48.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Insha’Allah, if we ever get a \Nchance,
Dialogue: 0,0:19:48.00,0:19:49.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we will listen directly to \NGhamidi Saab in this convocation.
Dialogue: 0,0:19:49.98,0:19:51.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Thank you very much \Nfor your time.
Dialogue: 0,0:19:51.56,0:19:52.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Ghamidi] Thank you very much.