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[Hassan Ilyas] My dear friends[br]and respected elders.

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the topic on which I have[br]been invited to give a speech

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it is this

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that Riyasat-e-Madina [br](state of Madina)

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by keeping its model before us

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in today's era

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what are those commands

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what are those illuminating,[br]brilliant and guiding aspects

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by adopting which, our lives

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our society

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our environment

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and our state

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could be made to adopt those principles

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could be bound to those[br]ideals and perspectives

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which we were invited to

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on the face of earth

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by the messengers of God

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we know this

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that the instructions of Deen

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have essentially been made[br]a part of man's nature

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when a human being [br]comes into this world

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so he brings along with him[br]the sense of good and bad

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Allah ta'la has given man

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free will and choice

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so on this very basis

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he decides between wrong and right

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all of us know that man

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is an aggregate of three things

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Allah ta'la has placed a [br]sense of morality within man

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it is this very sense of morality

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on the basis of which

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he determines the good and[br]right things in the entire world

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and distinguishes them from the[br]evil and illegitimate things

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the second distinctive aspect of man

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is his aesthetic sense

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a person comes into this world

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he adorns things

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he beautifies them

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betters them

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he shapes societies

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societies transform into state

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the governments of states lead to[br]international relations

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this is the beautification of those[br]very things present within man

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it is the quality of[br]beautifying those things

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which then get cast into organization

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and the third distinction of man

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is his rational existence

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a man traverses from the[br]known to the unknown

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the facts that are before him

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he draws inferences from them

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he shares the external or internal [br]knowledge apprehended by his senses

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and the result of his rational[br]inferences with people

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due to which

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a knowledge is acquired

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it is this very knowledge

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on the basis of which[br]man moves forward

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and looks for the paths to[br]progress in the world

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this is a human being

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when he came into this world

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so there were many such matters

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in which he did not require [br]any guidance whatsoever

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but there were also some matters

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in which the human being[br]needed hand-holding

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in order to determine what is right[br]and what is wrong

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this was also needed to be told

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that Allah ta'la has to do[br]his reckoning tomorrow

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that is, if this trial was not there

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so perhaps man after reaching [br]the right or wrong answers

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could have left this world

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but Allah ta'la has to do the reckoning

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settle his accounts

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so Allah ta'la did this favour

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that he bestowed this thing[br]upon us as a blessing

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that he started the succession[br]of prophets and messengers

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when these messengers[br]come into this world

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what do they do?

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when these messengers come into this world

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then they do two things[br]on a fundamental level

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first thing

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if you analyze all the[br]constituents of Allah's Deen

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so they are based on al hikmah (wisdom)

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that is, those things related to[br]beliefs and morality

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which are present in the nature of man

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by setting them in the right direction

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if he is forgetting

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then by drawing attention to his error

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he should be made to understand

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and second thing

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is al Kitab (the book)

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that is, those commands of the Sharii'at

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that in those matters

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where man could not[br]have reached a decisive place

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there Allah's messenger

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in the form of law

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give us some guidance

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when the messengers come into this world

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here this thing should also be understood

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that they come as a sign of Allah

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Allah by making them a symbol[br]till the Judgement day

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tells the people that

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on the face of earth

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the rule of God is established

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Deen has told us about[br]the messenger

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that there are some special laws

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which are applicable to [br]their state or governance

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When the messengers come into the world

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then those who do[br]not believe in them

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Allah's wrath descends upon them

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Quran-e-Majeed describes it in[br]Surah Yunus in the form of a principle

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that

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Wali kulli ummatir Rasool

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fa izaa jaaa'a Rasooluhum

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quziya bainahum bilqisti [br]wa hum laa yuzlamoon

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and then at a different place

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it says

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li alla yakoona linaasi allalahi[br]hujjatam baada rusul

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and then it says that

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wa ma kunna mua'zabeena hatta[br]nabata rasula

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our wrath does not descend[br]upon those people

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till the time we have not [br]sent them a messenger

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so it is the official status of[br]the messenger

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which also manifests in his state

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but the laws that the messengers give

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the Sharii'at that they give

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it remains till the world exists

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in the light of that law

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we have to see

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that in today's social milieu

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in today's society

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what are those commands

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by acting upon which

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the instructions that the messenger gave

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that which was the will of God

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that which we will be accountable[br]for

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that which was the wish of God

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which will be sought

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we have to act on that

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so the very first thing about the state

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that comes to us

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in the form of instructions

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it is this that

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the collective organization of Muslims

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will be formed on the basis of[br]mutual consultation

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amruhum shura baynahum

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whatever state is formed

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whatever be its nature

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man due to the evolution[br]of his civilization

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depending on the cultural dynamics

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he keeps forming different[br]kinds of organizations

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today we see that

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it is the time period of nation-states

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tomorrow it could be that[br]all of these things

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can change into a world government

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today as well

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a kind of quasi world order

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is present in the form of United Nations

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whatever state is formed

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the collective order of Muslims

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in whatever form comes into existence

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an administrative principle[br]that it contains

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it is this that

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it will come into existence through[br]people's opinions and consultations

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when we say that

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through people's opinions[br]and consultations

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so in this every one is equal

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in this there is no distinction[br]between any individuals

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he may be a commoner

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he may be an expert

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he may be a sage

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he may be an intellectual

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he may be a scholar

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or a philosopher

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whoever he may be

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he is the one who is going [br]to elect his rulers in the state

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and this election

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or consultation will not take place[br]after the state comes into existence

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rather it will originate from this

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everyone is an equal [br]participant in this state

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this is that fundamental principle

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in fact it is a founding norm[br]in the formation of the state

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after which we

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in any society

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bring a well organized[br]government into existence

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in this

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if at any place

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there is even a slight deviation

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then according to the [br]instructions of Allah ta'la

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the social milieu

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and the society

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which is supposed to come into[br]existence as a collective order

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its structure comes undone

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it cannot move forward

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we see in present times

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that this is also that[br]principle of the Quran

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which for those people who [br]did not believe in the Quran

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they too practically faced[br]this consequence

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it is a very long journey

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the modern democracy that we know

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that which began with the initial[br]concept of senate in Athens and Greece

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and which with the reformation [br]of social sciences in West

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and after revolution

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today in the form of modern states

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western democracies give us

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but this principle

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fourteen hundred years ago from today

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in the words of Prophet Muhammad (pbuh)

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Quran-e-Majeed had described

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in the words[br]amruhum shura baynahum

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this is the fundamental principle

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and because Prophet Muhammad (pbuh)

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did not bring any new Deen with him

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it is the same Islam which the [br]messengers brought before him

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so even if you study the biography [br]of the past messengers

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so there as we do not[br]have any definite source

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it is also in accordance [br]with the same principle

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if their governance

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if with the state there is[br]any additional aspect

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that there need be a rule of God

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there

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of criminals

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of non-believers

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those people who are denying Prophet[br]Muhammad (pbuh) in spite of knowing

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the decision is made in this world

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that this is the matter there

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but in spite of this

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the principle that is there

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the same principle has[br]authority there as well

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when Prophet Muhammad (pbuh)[br]was passing away from this world

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keeping this very priciple before him

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he elected Syedna Abu Bakr

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When Syedna Abu Bakr [br]was passing away

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so by keeping the[br]same principle before him

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he elected Syedna Umar

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and when Syedna Umar was passing away

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so his own time period

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his own social milieu

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keeping the demands of his[br]own society before him

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the manner in which

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(amruhum shura baynahum)

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the opinions of Muslims could be taken

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he took their opinions

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and in this manner

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a democratic social milieu

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the foundation for a democratic[br]society were laid down

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the moment when we say

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that it is democracy

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that foundational model of[br]the state of Madina

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that fundamental command

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which for the ends of times

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is an example and a model

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so then its necessary demand is this

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that whatever happens in a democracy

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will happen in a Muslim society as well

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in a democracy

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all citizens are equal

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no citizen is a second grade citizen

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whether they are Muslim [br]citizens of the state

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or non-Muslim citizens of the state

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all of them

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in the eyes of the state

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will be equal citizens

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there will be no disparity[br]in their rights

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there will not be any division

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any superiority

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any such kind of step will be taken

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due to which their rights are violated

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in our society

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we usually see that

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when the religion of Islam is talked about

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when the state of Madina is talked about

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so some of those examples

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which were related to that divine rule

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by bringing them down to earth

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people make models for themselves

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that was the matter strictly [br]for the Prophet

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the Prophet was made a symbol[br]for the remaining world

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but today whatever state[br]that we will build

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in that

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all of the citizens hold equal rights

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here this point should also be understood

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that whatever commands the[br]Sharii'at has given us

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they are of two kinds

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one is that command

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which is related to the individual

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I have to act on that

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if I do not fulfill it or neglect it

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then I would be answerable

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Allah would ask me

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whatever is your concept of Deen

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if you think donning Hijab is necessary

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if you think that this restraint [br]is necessary in the matters of women

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you will tell this concept of Deen to me

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but you cannot impose it on me

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this is my personal decision

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because this command is[br]addressed to me

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as a result all those commands

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which are related to the individual

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nobody can interfere in it

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no state can interfere in it

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any kind of institution[br]cannot interfere in it

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the jurisidiction of state only starts[br]against the violation of rights

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or against the abuse of life,[br]wealth and dignity

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if any individual stands up and says

0:10:16.691,0:10:18.236
that my right has been violated here

0:10:18.236,0:10:20.290
now the state will step forward

0:10:20.548,0:10:21.980
and by stepping forward

0:10:21.980,0:10:23.665
it will provide justice to that individual

0:10:23.665,0:10:24.784
it will restore that individual's rights

0:10:25.205,0:10:27.675
these are the first kind of[br]commands of Sharii'at

0:10:27.783,0:10:29.848
Sharii'at has given some commands

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to the collective organization[br]of Muslim society

0:10:32.762,0:10:34.866
these are those few commands

0:10:34.919,0:10:38.366
upon which when any new [br]state comes into existence

0:10:38.550,0:10:40.033
and there is a Muslim majority

0:10:40.462,0:10:42.821
then it is the responsibility[br]of the Muslim ruler

0:10:43.209,0:10:44.543
that he should act upon those

0:10:44.543,0:10:45.659
what are those commands?

0:10:45.659,0:10:46.899
they are a few commands

0:10:47.420,0:10:49.110
I will read them in short for you

0:10:49.331,0:10:51.983
and if you would like to[br]know their reasoning

0:10:52.288,0:10:53.871
so different scholars and ulema have

0:10:53.919,0:10:55.499
the thought system that is behind them

0:10:55.499,0:10:56.999
their epistemology

0:10:57.334,0:10:59.394
their reasoning and arguments

0:10:59.590,0:11:00.950
have been clarified

0:11:00.996,0:11:02.575
the first and foremost thing

0:11:02.774,0:11:04.788
Muslims are not inferior[br]subjects of the rulers

0:11:04.877,0:11:06.236
but they are equal citizens

0:11:06.607,0:11:07.327
second thing,

0:11:07.327,0:11:10.094
their life, wealth and[br]dignity will be protected

0:11:10.256,0:11:10.956
third thing

0:11:10.956,0:11:13.988
their individual matters would[br]be resolved in accordance with Deen

0:11:14.489,0:11:17.515
they will be given help with [br]respect to their religious obligations.

0:11:18.093,0:11:18.995
you observe fasts

0:11:19.375,0:11:20.413
you go on Haj

0:11:20.413,0:11:21.893
there are issues in traveling there

0:11:21.916,0:11:23.896
there are administrative reliefs

0:11:23.896,0:11:25.461
the organizations that have been formed

0:11:25.461,0:11:26.131
in them

0:11:26.279,0:11:28.819
the Muslim society has been commanded

0:11:28.935,0:11:30.481
that whichever state is formed

0:11:30.711,0:11:32.014
it will help the citizens

0:11:32.283,0:11:34.587
those people who have been[br]left behind in the race for livelihood

0:11:34.759,0:11:36.483
they will carry them forward

0:11:36.720,0:11:38.316
the foundation of Muslim society

0:11:38.778,0:11:40.133
will be amruhum shura baynahum

0:11:40.364,0:11:41.374
in the same way

0:11:41.374,0:11:42.554
the sermon of Jum'ah

0:11:42.788,0:11:44.527
have been made essential for the rulers

0:11:44.527,0:11:45.551
it is the rulers

0:11:45.604,0:11:47.314
who will come to the pulpit

0:11:47.541,0:11:48.742
and tell the nation

0:11:48.742,0:11:50.985
that what are the commands of Allah

0:11:51.418,0:11:52.862
generally people say

0:11:53.157,0:11:54.617
that these kind of rulers

0:11:54.822,0:11:56.372
about whom we know

0:11:56.547,0:11:59.201
that they are oblivious to even[br]the basic teachings of Deen

0:11:59.480,0:12:00.710
so in this command of Allah

0:12:00.710,0:12:01.445
there is great wisdom

0:12:01.445,0:12:02.318
great vision

0:12:02.592,0:12:03.760
and there is great foresight

0:12:03.760,0:12:05.402
that when you will tell them

0:12:05.402,0:12:07.162
that Allah has kept this pulpit [br]for you

0:12:07.162,0:12:09.222
then they will also prepare before coming

0:12:09.672,0:12:13.117
they have to keep their sensibility of[br]Deen and spirit of Deen awake

0:12:13.672,0:12:14.831
and this very thing

0:12:14.831,0:12:15.961
their commitment to Deen

0:12:16.199,0:12:18.359
will become the reason[br]for our alliance with them

0:12:18.735,0:12:19.725
in the same way

0:12:19.725,0:12:21.229
any citizen of the state

0:12:21.697,0:12:22.984
in spite of his knowledge

0:12:23.122,0:12:24.332
in spite of being Muslim

0:12:24.549,0:12:25.693
at the last level

0:12:25.693,0:12:28.005
if he commits any crime

0:12:28.292,0:12:30.215
those crimes which are[br]the subject of Sharii'at

0:12:30.648,0:12:32.421
that criminal is not [br]deserving of any sympathy

0:12:32.766,0:12:35.182
that crime has been committed[br]in its highest degree

0:12:35.362,0:12:36.674
so according to Sharii'at

0:12:36.846,0:12:38.426
the punishments that have been described

0:12:38.596,0:12:40.342
those punishments will be imposed on them

0:12:40.477,0:12:41.551
and in the same way

0:12:41.637,0:12:42.888
the invitation of Islam

0:12:42.898,0:12:44.599
to carry it to the entire world

0:12:44.825,0:12:46.855
for its promotion at a global level

0:12:47.236,0:12:49.606
the Muslim government will make efforts

0:12:49.747,0:12:50.947
and in this effort

0:12:50.947,0:12:52.963
if there is any impediment anywhere

0:12:53.270,0:12:54.981
then it is the moral principle

0:12:55.230,0:12:56.529
on the basis of which

0:12:56.627,0:12:58.577
it also has the right to take action

0:12:58.624,0:12:59.214
as it were

0:12:59.214,0:13:00.021
against oppression

0:13:00.074,0:13:00.825
against force

0:13:00.918,0:13:02.172
against tyranny

0:13:02.567,0:13:04.697
if any state is established somewhere

0:13:04.758,0:13:06.490
and is carrying out persecution

0:13:06.680,0:13:08.012
and in this matter too

0:13:08.216,0:13:09.966
there is no condition to be a Muslim

0:13:10.217,0:13:11.957
if we know that at a place

0:13:12.069,0:13:15.569
force is being used against people[br]of a different religion

0:13:15.790,0:13:16.803
so it is our right

0:13:16.803,0:13:18.919
and it is our religious obligation

0:13:18.966,0:13:20.352
that if we have the ability

0:13:20.352,0:13:21.854
the power and the capability

0:13:22.074,0:13:23.744
so by stepping forward

0:13:23.924,0:13:26.514
you will help those fellow human beings

0:13:26.834,0:13:29.221
and will rid them of[br]this tyranny and force

0:13:29.459,0:13:31.172
this is that fundamental concept

0:13:31.295,0:13:33.202
it is that fundamental perspective

0:13:33.372,0:13:35.014
by putting forth in front of us

0:13:35.242,0:13:36.342
by taking a step ahead

0:13:36.342,0:13:39.712
the commands of Deen that are related[br]to collective organization and state

0:13:40.069,0:13:41.542
we can understand them

0:13:41.912,0:13:43.095
in this short time

0:13:43.347,0:13:45.663
I could have given a primary[br]introduction of these things

0:13:45.886,0:13:47.436
there are many such divine commands

0:13:47.436,0:13:49.093
which if you want to read in detail

0:13:49.313,0:13:51.089
then they are present in[br]the books of our ulema

0:13:51.412,0:13:53.852
I would like to end my conversation here

0:13:54.044,0:13:54.914
aqulu qawli haza

0:13:55.190,0:13:56.810
wa astaghfirullaha li wa lakum

0:13:56.953,0:13:58.407
Wa lisaairil muslimin

0:13:58.407,0:14:00.707
if any of you would like [br]to ask any questions

0:14:00.931,0:14:01.863
I'm here to answer

0:14:01.872,0:14:03.062
[Audience] So my question is this

0:14:03.063,0:14:04.363
that in a Muslim society

0:14:04.521,0:14:06.666
what is the reason for skepticism[br]about democracy?

0:14:06.979,0:14:09.379
[Hassan] See you have asked[br]a very good question

0:14:10.564,0:14:13.587
these societies in actual are[br]societies of human beings

0:14:14.032,0:14:14.819
and we see that

0:14:14.819,0:14:16.642
for a long period of time

0:14:17.183,0:14:20.655
the most safest way for[br]the transfer of power

0:14:20.655,0:14:21.954
that the world adopted

0:14:22.345,0:14:23.425
it was of monarchy

0:14:23.690,0:14:25.350
within democracy

0:14:25.542,0:14:28.695
you have to put restrictions[br]on a lot of things

0:14:28.965,0:14:31.480
that is, the first restriction is

0:14:31.480,0:14:32.770
that on the force of guns

0:14:32.930,0:14:34.190
on the force of sword

0:14:34.331,0:14:35.747
on the force of tyranny

0:14:35.747,0:14:37.947
or on any kind of authoritarianism

0:14:38.515,0:14:40.310
no person can establish a government

0:14:40.310,0:14:42.533
there can only be three ways of[br]establishing a government

0:14:43.154,0:14:44.484
either someone will step forward

0:14:44.592,0:14:46.466
and establish a government[br]with the force of gun

0:14:46.662,0:14:48.852
or Allah will appoint someone

0:14:49.104,0:14:50.301
and the third way is

0:14:50.301,0:14:52.614
that people themselves will elect

0:14:52.761,0:14:54.701
so for a long time in the world

0:14:54.783,0:14:56.400
this was the prevailing attitude

0:14:56.400,0:14:59.484
that people established governments with[br]the force of sword and gun

0:14:59.721,0:15:01.300
and in those governments

0:15:01.300,0:15:02.640
the method for continuation[br]and perpetuation

0:15:02.640,0:15:04.295
was adopted in the form of monarchy

0:15:04.435,0:15:05.765
that is, a person has become the king

0:15:05.928,0:15:07.746
he is continuing his[br]line through his children

0:15:07.965,0:15:09.295
within this very concept

0:15:09.455,0:15:11.530
religion has given a new description

0:15:11.761,0:15:12.979
what is that description?

0:15:13.173,0:15:14.943
that people must decide this

0:15:14.943,0:15:17.943
so when Muslims too are citizens[br]of this very world

0:15:18.417,0:15:20.407
they are a part of this very society

0:15:20.407,0:15:22.995
then they cannot get rid [br]of this concept easily

0:15:23.271,0:15:23.971
as a result

0:15:23.971,0:15:24.880
it took a certain time

0:15:25.311,0:15:26.851
it took a certain time

0:15:26.851,0:15:28.551
that when Western nations

0:15:28.551,0:15:29.854
made it a social discourse

0:15:29.927,0:15:32.117
then we see that in Muslim[br]countries as well

0:15:32.117,0:15:34.787
this plant of democracy was cultivated

0:15:35.310,0:15:36.710
but in spite of this

0:15:36.936,0:15:38.453
it is still very nascent

0:15:38.472,0:15:40.552
it needs a lot of time to [br]become a tall and strong tree

0:15:40.716,0:15:42.986
[Audience] My question to you is this

0:15:43.051,0:15:44.343
that crime and sin

0:15:44.430,0:15:45.890
both are different things

0:15:46.167,0:15:48.307
please give a little[br]clarification on this

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[Hassan] See everything that

0:15:50.795,0:15:52.795
becomes the reason for violation of rights

0:15:52.795,0:15:54.978
or abuse of someone's life,[br]wealth and dignity

0:15:55.445,0:15:56.535
it is a crime

0:15:56.892,0:15:58.288
the matter of sin is that

0:15:58.288,0:15:59.922
many such things

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which are commands and [br]restrictions by Allah ta'la

0:16:02.826,0:16:04.736
that is, Allah ta'la wants that

0:16:04.945,0:16:08.608
it should be present in a person [br]who has brought belief in him

0:16:08.703,0:16:11.001
so that when he appears before his Creator

0:16:11.380,0:16:14.170
then he should appear before him [br]having acted upon these commands

0:16:14.435,0:16:16.498
so those commands and restrictions of Deen

0:16:16.822,0:16:18.622
there are certain things in them

0:16:18.622,0:16:20.537
which can also reach the status of crime

0:16:20.537,0:16:22.420
when we engage in backbiting of anyone

0:16:22.420,0:16:24.871
so a violation of other person's[br]rights is taking place there

0:16:25.264,0:16:27.412
when we abuse someone's [br]life, wealth or dignity

0:16:27.669,0:16:29.668
other person's rights are being violated

0:16:29.819,0:16:31.349
so there are many crimes

0:16:31.936,0:16:33.846
but there are such sins as well

0:16:33.931,0:16:35.091
which are only related to an individual

0:16:35.091,0:16:36.159
in that perhaps

0:16:36.159,0:16:37.751
another person's rights[br]are not being violated

0:16:37.992,0:16:38.932
for example

0:16:38.932,0:16:40.988
Allah ta'la has given me a lot of commands

0:16:40.988,0:16:43.605
take the matter of believing in God's[br]existence and God himself

0:16:43.605,0:16:45.105
if I commit idolatory

0:16:45.304,0:16:46.449
then in that case

0:16:46.695,0:16:48.125
I'm committing a mistake

0:16:48.390,0:16:48.965
on its own

0:16:48.965,0:16:50.556
this is also a moral sin

0:16:50.731,0:16:52.276
but here some another member

0:16:52.276,0:16:53.960
does not stand with me in the world

0:16:54.212,0:16:56.672
so usually this definition that[br]is stated of a crime

0:16:56.965,0:16:59.016
so as a result of the criminal action

0:16:59.016,0:17:00.447
there is another individual

0:17:00.447,0:17:01.856
who is being affected

0:17:02.180,0:17:05.310
but as soon as Deen's concept of [br]sin and crime is discussed

0:17:05.310,0:17:08.423
so it does not remain confined merely to[br]the violation of rights

0:17:08.423,0:17:09.423
of another individual

0:17:09.423,0:17:10.253
in fact in this

0:17:10.253,0:17:14.397
violation of Allah ta'la's commands and[br]restrictions in sharii'at is also included

0:17:14.825,0:17:15.995
[Audience] My question is this

0:17:15.995,0:17:17.891
that is it not the responsibility[br]of the state

0:17:17.891,0:17:20.871
that it should make the citizens [br]follow the Islamic mandate of purdah

0:17:21.282,0:17:24.143
[Hassan] See the ettiquete for interaction[br]between men and women

0:17:24.143,0:17:26.033
that have been described in [br]the Quran-e-Majeed

0:17:26.042,0:17:28.734
they are being addressed to Muslim women

0:17:29.266,0:17:30.346
we know that

0:17:30.346,0:17:31.509
what those commands are

0:17:31.806,0:17:33.966
they are two commands in total

0:17:34.008,0:17:36.128
which have been given to[br]both men and women

0:17:36.128,0:17:37.321
and there is one command

0:17:37.581,0:17:38.949
which has been given[br]additionally to women

0:17:38.949,0:17:40.699
both will mind their gaze

0:17:40.987,0:17:42.607
both will conceal their private parts

0:17:42.917,0:17:45.191
but if the women would have[br]adorned themselves

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then apart from their [br]hands, feet and face

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they will not render those embellishments [br]and ornaments visible to people

0:17:51.282,0:17:53.330
this instruction is related[br]to the individual

0:17:53.555,0:17:55.585
if any person believes that

0:17:55.585,0:17:56.250
in this

0:17:56.250,0:17:57.497
it is necessary to cover one's face

0:17:57.497,0:17:58.797
or to cover one's hands

0:17:58.797,0:18:00.027
or to cover one's hair

0:18:00.027,0:18:01.954
it is necessary to wear Hijab

0:18:02.545,0:18:05.892
if any person understand that it is [br]necessary to hide only embellishments

0:18:05.892,0:18:08.862
then it is the personal[br]decision of that individual

0:18:09.297,0:18:11.201
[Audience] My only question is that

0:18:11.583,0:18:15.583
a state and especially when that [br]state declares itself an Islamic state

0:18:16.085,0:18:19.315
if it is fails to provide [br]justice to the oppressed

0:18:20.181,0:18:23.191
then what path should be[br]taken to provide justice?

0:18:23.191,0:18:25.864
is it appropriate to take[br]law into one's hands?

0:18:26.468,0:18:28.786
[Hassan] See Allah ta'la has [br]given every person

0:18:28.986,0:18:30.318
a circle of authority

0:18:30.588,0:18:33.406
within which he is bound to [br]fulfill any responsibility

0:18:33.952,0:18:36.651
if I'm being oppressed, tyrannized

0:18:36.963,0:18:38.289
if I'm not getting justice

0:18:38.615,0:18:42.615
so I will try to amend it while remaning[br]within my circle of authority

0:18:42.910,0:18:45.830
going out of my way to lay the [br]foundation for discord in any society

0:18:46.100,0:18:47.873
laying the foundation for agitation

0:18:48.182,0:18:49.897
laying the foundation for nuisance

0:18:49.897,0:18:51.617
religion does not allow us to do this

0:18:52.130,0:18:55.401
the biggest medium for change in the world

0:18:55.451,0:18:56.165
is that

0:18:56.165,0:18:58.606
you must revive people's [br]spirit for education

0:18:58.900,0:19:01.600
so if we are not getting[br]justice in any matter

0:19:01.600,0:19:02.840
and especially in that country

0:19:02.942,0:19:05.865
where Muslim majority people[br]or population are present

0:19:06.309,0:19:08.365
we see that its justice[br]system is lacking

0:19:08.561,0:19:09.881
so what needs to be done?

0:19:09.881,0:19:11.387
what needs to be done is that we ourselves

0:19:11.387,0:19:12.597
on our level

0:19:12.597,0:19:14.925
should make arrangement for[br]education and learning

0:19:15.176,0:19:17.202
we must arrange for moral[br]training of people

0:19:17.202,0:19:20.234
this state does not descend[br]from the heavens

0:19:20.632,0:19:23.112
instead a few people among us step forward

0:19:23.142,0:19:24.962
become the rulers of the state

0:19:25.270,0:19:27.480
so when we will develop this spirit

0:19:27.786,0:19:28.783
so it is that very spirit

0:19:28.783,0:19:30.782
which takes shape into [br]the collective vision

0:19:30.900,0:19:33.273
and which will also reflect[br]in the matters of the state

0:19:33.550,0:19:34.990
[Audience] My question is that

0:19:35.013,0:19:35.773
in an Islamic state

0:19:35.773,0:19:37.804
what will be the nature[br]of the use of the arts

0:19:37.804,0:19:39.455
[Hassan] Most of the art forms

0:19:39.455,0:19:40.614
in actual are lawful

0:19:40.614,0:19:43.004
if you read the many texts[br]of Quran-e-Majeed

0:19:43.004,0:19:44.254
then Allah ta'la says that

0:19:44.254,0:19:45.844
these are those things of adornment

0:19:45.844,0:19:48.379
which in this world have [br]actually been made for the believers

0:19:48.786,0:19:51.206
and no person can declare[br]them to be forbidden

0:19:51.618,0:19:54.278
Allah ta'la has stated[br]it very clearly that

0:19:54.278,0:19:57.118
qul man harrama zeenatallah[br]illati akhraja li ibadi

0:19:57.895,0:20:00.797
who is the one that forbids[br]these adornments in the world

0:20:01.261,0:20:03.939
there are certain standards of art

0:20:04.127,0:20:05.417
there are certain uses

0:20:05.506,0:20:06.732
which sometimes makes it lawful

0:20:06.732,0:20:08.286
and sometimes unlawful

0:20:08.411,0:20:10.059
what are those moral limits

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Surah Al-A'raf in Quran-e-Majeed[br]have described them very clearly

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There are five things

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first thing

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any such thing which [br]is related to obscenity

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second, any thing which[br]violates someone's rights

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third, if it is an abuse of someone's [br]life, wealth and dignity

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fourth

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if any trace of idolatry is found in it

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and fifth

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if it has bid'at (innovation)

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that is presenting something[br]new in the name of God

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[Audience] If we look in the[br]light of Quran and Sunnat

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then we have all the laws

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if after talking about Sharii'at

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if we come towards ijtihad (creative [br]independent juristic reasoning)

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then there as well

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our scholars have made such laws

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that through which

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we can easily benefit in our[br]knowledge

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but in spite of this

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the deliverance of justice [br]is not ensured

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we have everything before us

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but in spite of this

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why cannot we deliver justice

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and when it comes to the [br]safeguarding of Deen

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then Muslims are afflicted[br]with factionalism

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due to discrimination among themselves

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there are many disagreements between them

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so when there are so many[br]disagreements among ourselves

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then

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when it comes to minorities

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we are not even able to do them justice

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we discriminate against them as well

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so what is the basic reason for this?

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why are we not able to provide[br]justice to our citizens

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[Hassan] See there is only[br]one purpose of Sharii'at

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and it is purification

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the purification of people

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the purpose of Sharii'at [br]that is usually stated

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this is not the purpose of Sharii'at

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this is the purpose of the state

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when a state is formed

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then it stops the violation[br]of people's rights

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and abuse against people's [br]lives, wealth and honor

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the preservation of life

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people do not start after[br]reading the kalima of Islam

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people in the entire world

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whosoever it may be

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is preserving life

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he is also preserving his lineage

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he is also preserving reason

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Sharii'at is for

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your moral existence

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your body

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and your food and drink

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for its cleansing

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tazkiya

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purification

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and for sanctification

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the question is that

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if this is the object of Sharii'at

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then the rest of the elements of the state

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that justice should be given

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and people should

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in time

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and on their doorstep

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and as soon as possible

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there conflict redressal and decisions [br]should be made

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this is not the purpose of Sharii'at

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this is the purpose of the[br]state and the society

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and when something becomes the purpose

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of the state and the society

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then for it

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there are certain rules

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there are some laws

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as long as we do not adopt them

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till then we cannot[br]provide justice on time

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I'm thankful to all the participants

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and I also thank all the students

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who asked such thoughtful[br]and knowledgeable questions

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this also indicates that

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in our young generation

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there is an understanding and[br]inclination towards Deen

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and how there is a spirit of wanting[br]to purify our intellectual being

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with this prayer

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that all of us need this

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that we must do a scholarly[br]study of Allah's Deen

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and have an in-depth understanding [br]of how it relates to us

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aqulu qauli haza

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wa astaghfirullaha li wa lakum [br]walisairil muslimin