WEBVTT 00:00:01.287 --> 00:00:05.255 Response to 23 Questions Part- 65 Singing and Music, Episode- 8 Javed Ahmed Ghamidi 00:00:11.742 --> 00:00:13.745 [Hassan Ilyas] Bismillahir Rahmanir Rahim, As Salam Alaikum 00:00:13.745 --> 00:00:16.063 Welcome to yet another Session of 'From the Desk of Ghamidi'. 00:00:16.063 --> 00:00:18.517 The chain of discussions continues on the 23 Objections. 00:00:18.517 --> 00:00:20.600 Today is the 65th Episode of that Series. 00:00:20.600 --> 00:00:23.509 The important objection on Singing and Music is under debate. 00:00:23.509 --> 00:00:26.261 And today we are about to begin the 8th Session on this particular topic. 00:00:26.261 --> 00:00:28.477 Thank you very much Ghamidi Sahab for your time. 00:00:28.477 --> 00:00:32.432 Let us start, the Narrations that you were stating in the last session 00:00:32.432 --> 00:00:35.781 and we were trying to know that all that is found in the corpus of Hadees 00:00:35.781 --> 00:00:38.560 with reference to Singing and Music, from those Narrations 00:00:38.560 --> 00:00:40.587 which according to the Chain of Narrations 00:00:40.587 --> 00:00:44.590 are of the level of Sahih or Hasan. We read each and every Narration 00:00:44.590 --> 00:00:48.166 and the introduction which you stated, after understanding it from the Quran, 00:00:48.166 --> 00:00:51.528 that actually it is the use of things which turns them as forbidden. 00:00:51.528 --> 00:00:53.894 The basis of which is present in Surah Aaraf, 00:00:53.894 --> 00:00:56.083 which are those 5 things. There isn't any explicit mention 00:00:56.083 --> 00:00:58.889 of the Prohibition of Singing and Music. Those too are being applied 00:00:58.889 --> 00:01:01.329 in each and every Narration by us to understand the correct situation. 00:01:01.329 --> 00:01:03.074 Please go ahead and tell us where do we stand 00:01:03.074 --> 00:01:05.135 with respect to the chain of Narrations? 00:01:05.135 --> 00:01:08.306 What is the next narration? And what actually is discussed therein? 00:01:08.306 --> 00:01:11.492 [Javed Ahmed Ghamidi] We have read 15 Narrations before this. 00:01:11.492 --> 00:01:15.302 This is the 16th, its text has been taken from Sahih Bukhari as well. 00:01:15.302 --> 00:01:18.223 Its number is 952. [Hassan] Right. 00:01:18.223 --> 00:01:20.444 [Ghamidi] I am just reading the translation. 00:01:20.444 --> 00:01:25.663 Sayyeda Ayesha says Abu Bakr R.A. came to my house. 00:01:25.663 --> 00:01:27.841 He was her respected father. 00:01:27.841 --> 00:01:30.153 Abu Bakr R.A. came to my house. 00:01:30.153 --> 00:01:34.502 At that moment two slave-girls from Ansar were playing the 'Daf' 00:01:34.502 --> 00:01:38.240 and singing the song which the Ansar had sung for each other 00:01:38.240 --> 00:01:41.442 on the day of the Battle of Buaas. 00:01:41.442 --> 00:01:45.408 Generally, there used to be the slave-girls who would sing songs. 00:01:45.408 --> 00:01:47.937 They used to sing in gatherings as well as in houses. 00:01:47.937 --> 00:01:51.740 At that moment two slave-girls from Ansar were playing the 'Daf' 00:01:51.740 --> 00:01:54.637 and singing the song which the Ansar had sung for each other 00:01:54.637 --> 00:01:56.574 on the day of the Battle of Buaas. 00:01:56.574 --> 00:02:03.854 The Prophet (pbuh) had covered his face with a cloth and was taking rest. 00:02:03.854 --> 00:02:07.325 i.e. those slave-girls were singing and playing the Daf too, 00:02:07.325 --> 00:02:11.893 Sayyeda was listening to it, the Prophet (pbuh) was taking rest 00:02:11.893 --> 00:02:16.407 and he (pbuh) had covered his face with a cloth. 00:02:16.407 --> 00:02:22.481 The Prophet (pbuh) covering his face was taking a rest, 00:02:22.481 --> 00:02:26.833 however, neither did he say anything to them nor he was stopping them. 00:02:26.833 --> 00:02:29.678 i.e. it did not happen that he expressed some dislike 00:02:29.678 --> 00:02:33.075 or drew the attention of Sayyeda, or had stopped them from doing this. 00:02:33.075 --> 00:02:35.816 They were singing and playing the 'Daf' as well. 00:02:35.816 --> 00:02:39.493 Sayyeda was listening to it, the Prophet (pbuh) was present there too. 00:02:39.493 --> 00:02:42.305 However, he did not utter any sentence of objection. 00:02:42.305 --> 00:02:45.754 And neither did he adopt an attitude of objection. 00:02:45.754 --> 00:02:48.954 However, neither did he say anything to them nor did he stop them. 00:02:48.954 --> 00:02:53.110 Sayyeda says that both those slave-girls weren't professional singers. 00:02:53.110 --> 00:02:56.290 i.e. one should not think that they were professional singers 00:02:56.290 --> 00:03:01.290 who had been called and they were displaying their Art there. 00:03:01.290 --> 00:03:05.869 Like the slave-girls usually sang in houses and elsewhere too. 00:03:05.869 --> 00:03:08.529 Such were these two slave-girls from Ansar 00:03:08.529 --> 00:03:11.768 who had been playing the Daf and singing that song. 00:03:11.768 --> 00:03:15.623 When Abu Bakr R.A. saw this, he said astonishingly, 00:03:15.623 --> 00:03:21.092 "In the house of the Prophet (pbuh) such Satanic instruments of music!" 00:03:21.092 --> 00:03:23.870 i.e. Syedna Siddique R.A. made this comment on it. 00:03:23.870 --> 00:03:27.208 Now you see, probably he must have thought 00:03:27.208 --> 00:03:29.611 that the Prophet ( pbuh) was unaware of it. 00:03:29.611 --> 00:03:32.912 Or he (pbuh) is taking rest and possibly is asleep. 00:03:32.912 --> 00:03:35.348 Or he did not pay attention to it. So he said, 00:03:35.348 --> 00:03:41.125 "In the house of the Prophet (pbuh) such Satanic instruments of music!" 00:03:41.125 --> 00:03:46.822 Sayyeda says that it was the day of Eid. When the Prophet (pbuh) heard this, 00:03:46.822 --> 00:03:50.694 he uncovered his face (pbuh) and said, 00:03:50.694 --> 00:03:52.765 "Abu Bakr let these girls sing, 00:03:52.765 --> 00:03:56.461 every nation has an Eid and it is the day of our Eid." 00:03:56.461 --> 00:03:58.377 [Hassan] SubhanAllah, okay. 00:03:58.377 --> 00:04:02.599 [Ghamidi] Just imagine the way the Prophet has conveyed these teachings. 00:04:02.599 --> 00:04:06.250 i.e. the religious mentality becomes sensitive about these things. 00:04:06.250 --> 00:04:08.726 It should come on to the right equilibrium. 00:04:08.726 --> 00:04:12.133 It should learn to see things in their proper context and place. 00:04:12.133 --> 00:04:15.607 It should become aware what is the context of something? 00:04:15.607 --> 00:04:18.529 On what occasion a certain activity is not just permitted, 00:04:18.529 --> 00:04:22.896 rather, it should be done. That the human nature demands it. 00:04:22.896 --> 00:04:28.130 When the Prophet (pbuh) heard this, he uncovered his face and said, 00:04:28.130 --> 00:04:33.523 "Abu Bakr let these girls sing, every nation has an Eid 00:04:33.523 --> 00:04:36.532 and this is the day of our Eid". 00:04:36.532 --> 00:04:42.657 "So when Abu Bakr R.A. attended to other things then I waved at the girls, 00:04:42.657 --> 00:04:45.699 hence both of them left the place". [Hassan] Who had waved? 00:04:45.699 --> 00:04:47.457 [Ghamidi] Sayyeda, Sayyeda says that 00:04:47.457 --> 00:04:53.870 this wasn't liked by her father, so in spite of this comment 00:04:53.870 --> 00:04:57.794 from the Prophet (pbuh) she didn't want this to continue, 00:04:57.794 --> 00:05:01.957 so she hinted to the girls, hence they obviously left the place. 00:05:01.957 --> 00:05:03.921 This is the Narration. Now you see, 00:05:03.921 --> 00:05:08.363 when Syedna Abu Bakr said, "In the House of the Prophet (pbuh) 00:05:08.363 --> 00:05:12.551 these Satanic instruments of music", I have written a note on it. 00:05:12.551 --> 00:05:14.622 This comment has been made 00:05:14.622 --> 00:05:17.490 in consideration of the use of musical instruments, 00:05:17.490 --> 00:05:23.383 in the era of Pagan Arabia which we see day and night even in our times. 00:05:23.383 --> 00:05:26.485 What is being played here? Daf is being played here. 00:05:26.485 --> 00:05:33.602 He has categorized the Daf within the definition of musical instruments. 00:05:33.602 --> 00:05:36.765 With this, it becomes clear that Daf is no different 00:05:36.765 --> 00:05:39.926 from the class of musical instruments. [Hassan] An important point. 00:05:39.926 --> 00:05:42.177 [Ghamidi] i.e. like the other instruments of music, 00:05:42.177 --> 00:05:45.344 this too is among the instruments of music. 00:05:45.344 --> 00:05:49.497 He did not like it, and from what aspect did he not like them? 00:05:49.497 --> 00:05:51.536 That even if it is a permissible activity, 00:05:51.536 --> 00:05:54.494 then how can it be done inside the house of the Prophet (pbuh)? 00:05:54.494 --> 00:05:57.073 And what was the point towards which the Prophet (pbuh) 00:05:57.073 --> 00:05:59.013 drew his attention? Whether, it is my house 00:05:59.013 --> 00:06:02.089 or of somebody else', these activities also have a place, 00:06:02.089 --> 00:06:05.341 and how was it elaborated? Today is the day of Eid, 00:06:05.341 --> 00:06:08.084 every nation has a day of Eid. Today is our Eid. 00:06:08.084 --> 00:06:11.388 If there is some singing and music, some entertainment is being done, 00:06:11.388 --> 00:06:13.960 then there should not be any objection to it. 00:06:13.960 --> 00:06:16.907 This point was focused on by the Prophet (pbuh). 00:06:16.907 --> 00:06:19.341 This comment has been made in consideration of the 00:06:19.341 --> 00:06:22.120 use of musical instruments, among the pagan Arabs, 00:06:22.120 --> 00:06:25.509 which we see day and night even in our times. 00:06:25.509 --> 00:06:28.466 This term is there in multiple places in the Narrations that 00:06:28.466 --> 00:06:32.028 these are Satanic instruments or these are the voices of Satan, 00:06:32.028 --> 00:06:34.997 This term has been used in multiple places in the Narrations, 00:06:34.997 --> 00:06:39.027 in consideration of this aspect, since their general use is not seen as good, 00:06:39.027 --> 00:06:43.024 and it is thought that this is a nocturnal party, 00:06:43.024 --> 00:06:46.006 these are played there, and slave-girls sing there, 00:06:46.006 --> 00:06:50.248 and they use all sort of couplets. Since these activities are common 00:06:50.248 --> 00:06:53.155 and the pious do not generally like them. 00:06:53.155 --> 00:06:56.080 Hence Syedna Siddique said this in consideration of the same. 00:06:56.080 --> 00:06:58.502 [Hassan] Right. [Ghamidi] The Prophet (pbuh), 00:06:58.502 --> 00:07:05.315 i.e. the personality like Syedna Siddique said this, the Prophet made it clear 00:07:05.315 --> 00:07:10.503 from his action that none among these in essence is forbidden. 00:07:10.503 --> 00:07:12.912 Now you see what in essence is not forbidden? 00:07:12.912 --> 00:07:15.893 Singing, in essence, is not forbidden. One point. 00:07:15.893 --> 00:07:19.008 Even the singing of the girls in essence is not forbidden. 00:07:19.008 --> 00:07:21.714 If you listen to their singing, and you are a male 00:07:21.714 --> 00:07:23.874 then this too, in essence, is not forbidden. 00:07:23.874 --> 00:07:27.786 And it was also made clear along with it that the Daf was being played, 00:07:27.786 --> 00:07:31.033 obviously, it is among the common instruments for music, 00:07:31.033 --> 00:07:34.637 hence singing along with the instruments of music is also not forbidden. 00:07:34.637 --> 00:07:38.003 Hence, with his practice, all this was clarified by the Prophet (pbuh). 00:07:38.003 --> 00:07:40.457 The Prophet made it clear from his action that 00:07:40.457 --> 00:07:43.350 none among these, in essence, is forbidden. 00:07:43.350 --> 00:07:47.908 It is their good or bad use, which at times becomes 00:07:47.908 --> 00:07:51.558 the cause of forbiddance, permissibility or their recommendation. 00:07:51.558 --> 00:07:55.423 This is the aspect to which I am repeatedly drawing attention to. 00:07:55.423 --> 00:07:58.834 i.e. it becomes the reason for Prohibition when these instruments 00:07:58.834 --> 00:08:03.795 or a good voice is used for the propagation of some evil. 00:08:03.795 --> 00:08:07.210 Like for the propagation of Shirk, like for the propagation of Bid'aat. 00:08:07.210 --> 00:08:09.564 Like for the propagation of Fawahish (Vulgarity). 00:08:09.564 --> 00:08:13.196 When we will use it for wrong ends then the forbiddance will be there too. 00:08:13.196 --> 00:08:16.296 The warning would also be made. Attention would also be drawn. 00:08:16.296 --> 00:08:18.357 There would be a harsh comment made as well. 00:08:18.357 --> 00:08:20.365 And a personality like Syedna Siddique or 00:08:20.365 --> 00:08:24.149 Syedna Umar would also use such words for it. 00:08:24.149 --> 00:08:26.704 That should be understood in this background as well. 00:08:26.704 --> 00:08:31.031 The Prophet (pbuh) has taught to differentiate 00:08:31.031 --> 00:08:36.918 between their good and evil use, after that, it is obvious that 00:08:36.918 --> 00:08:40.137 Syedna Abu Bakr would not have further held on to this opinion. 00:08:40.137 --> 00:08:42.793 i.e. it can't happen that even after this event, 00:08:42.793 --> 00:08:45.880 Syedna Siddique would have remained firm on that opinion of his. 00:08:45.880 --> 00:08:48.776 That under all conditions these are Satanic instruments. 00:08:48.776 --> 00:08:51.717 A statement was made by him. The Prophet (pbuh) drew attention 00:08:51.717 --> 00:08:55.005 towards the other aspect, in his presence, this attention was drawn. 00:08:55.005 --> 00:08:58.314 Daf was being played too. The song was being sung too. 00:08:58.314 --> 00:09:01.366 And who was playing Daf and singing songs? 00:09:01.366 --> 00:09:02.950 The girls were doing it. 00:09:02.950 --> 00:09:08.281 Now, just try to look at these concepts in the religious backdrop of ours. 00:09:08.281 --> 00:09:12.064 Each one among these has been approved by the Prophet (pbuh). 00:09:12.064 --> 00:09:15.712 And it was appreciated that it was the day of Eid, 00:09:15.712 --> 00:09:17.945 if such activities are done on the day of Eid, 00:09:17.945 --> 00:09:19.822 then in accordance with the occasion and context 00:09:19.822 --> 00:09:21.637 these are quite suitable activities. 00:09:21.637 --> 00:09:24.494 [Hassan] Right. A few minor questions related to this Narration come to mind, 00:09:24.494 --> 00:09:27.694 I wish to present them to you. Please tell me about this first thing, 00:09:27.694 --> 00:09:29.471 of all the Narrations that have come under discussion, 00:09:29.471 --> 00:09:32.496 among them, the singers are the slave-girls, 00:09:32.496 --> 00:09:36.909 so I would wish to ask you that this activity in that culture 00:09:36.909 --> 00:09:40.803 was not considered a respectable profession that the elite 00:09:40.803 --> 00:09:45.113 and the nobles would adopt as a career which we see in the present times 00:09:45.113 --> 00:09:48.863 which we term as the artistic mindset, and it commands a lot of respect. 00:09:48.863 --> 00:09:52.070 Was this activity of singing and playing of music confined just to the slave-girls 00:09:52.070 --> 00:09:55.164 or that class that was not so much respected in society? 00:09:55.164 --> 00:09:57.570 [Javed Ahmed Ghamidi] The point is that these too were human beings. 00:09:57.570 --> 00:09:59.402 If they were slave-girls, they were women as well. 00:09:59.402 --> 00:10:01.830 If they were slaves, they constituted men only. 00:10:01.830 --> 00:10:06.424 However, these were the people who had to provide service. 00:10:06.424 --> 00:10:09.266 These were the ones to work in fields, guide the caravans. 00:10:09.266 --> 00:10:11.608 In the same way, for the means of entertainment, 00:10:11.608 --> 00:10:14.397 a certain type of training and perseverance is required. 00:10:14.397 --> 00:10:17.534 So they were the ones to provide such services. 00:10:17.534 --> 00:10:20.543 Other than these there is a mention of certain other things. 00:10:20.543 --> 00:10:24.879 i.e. when we read the history, or poetry or literature of Arab, 00:10:24.879 --> 00:10:28.142 then many other people too, including the womenfolk 00:10:28.142 --> 00:10:31.371 of respected families are seen to have shown keenness for it. 00:10:31.371 --> 00:10:35.245 However, it is mostly seen that these slave-girls used to sing and play music. 00:10:35.245 --> 00:10:39.458 They were the ones to enliven the parties. And when they would come to homes, 00:10:39.458 --> 00:10:45.672 they generally liked to play the Daf or Sing some songs. 00:10:45.672 --> 00:10:49.739 And since their songs were the result of their practice and perseverence, 00:10:49.739 --> 00:10:52.329 they knew the art of playing the music and singing, 00:10:52.329 --> 00:10:55.843 so the people liked their performances. These are all the aspects. 00:10:55.843 --> 00:10:59.075 [Hassan] One more aspect, Ghamidi Sahab, which I am bringing forth 00:10:59.075 --> 00:11:01.898 is that generally, when such Narrations are presented, 00:11:01.898 --> 00:11:06.937 then it is said, in that era when they used to sing and play, 00:11:06.937 --> 00:11:10.712 the people had great virtues, Godliness, sincerity, humility, 00:11:10.712 --> 00:11:13.101 and fear of God was so much that in spite of all this, 00:11:13.101 --> 00:11:15.577 their heart wasn't inclined towards it. In today's age 00:11:15.577 --> 00:11:17.891 when we see the deplorable condition of Iman of people, 00:11:17.891 --> 00:11:19.895 then we would stop people on the principle of 00:11:19.895 --> 00:11:21.923 'Saddan li-zariya', so that we do not get at all 00:11:21.923 --> 00:11:23.629 inclined to hear the voice of a girl. 00:11:23.629 --> 00:11:25.322 Once we hear the voice we shall get mesmerized by her, 00:11:25.322 --> 00:11:27.113 and which will finally lead to wrong temptations. 00:11:27.113 --> 00:11:29.639 Therefore it was okay for that period, their Iman was of such level, 00:11:29.639 --> 00:11:31.290 In the present age, we have to bar it 00:11:31.290 --> 00:11:33.127 on the principle of Sadd-e Zariya (things which lead to Evil). 00:11:33.127 --> 00:11:34.959 [Javed Ahmed Ghamidi] There are two points of it. 00:11:34.959 --> 00:11:37.834 The first point is that those people who are quite superior 00:11:37.834 --> 00:11:41.471 with regard to 'Taqwa' or for those 00:11:41.471 --> 00:11:45.517 who do not possibly fear this, they should then listen with more fervor! 00:11:45.517 --> 00:11:49.163 Both things should happen. Since the Prophet (pbuh) has heard it. 00:11:49.163 --> 00:11:52.045 So that should surely be followed?! The second point is that 00:11:52.045 --> 00:11:55.284 the principle of Sadd-e Zariya (stopping from that which leads to Evil) 00:11:55.284 --> 00:11:58.422 does not follow the mechanism that something, in essence, is not forbidden, 00:11:58.422 --> 00:12:00.343 and we declare it as forbidden. 00:12:00.343 --> 00:12:02.893 Here the attention is drawn in the same manner that 00:12:02.893 --> 00:12:05.815 this particular thing is completely permissible, 00:12:05.815 --> 00:12:10.585 however, if you indulge too much in it, it may result in the following evils. 00:12:10.585 --> 00:12:12.991 [Hassan] Right. [Ghamidi] This we tell our children, 00:12:12.991 --> 00:12:15.842 those are common things of play, there may not be any debate about them. 00:12:15.842 --> 00:12:18.701 If we spend more time in it, the studies would be affected. 00:12:18.701 --> 00:12:21.046 You won't be able to dedicate yourself to work. 00:12:21.046 --> 00:12:23.683 There are so many of our pastimes regarding which 00:12:23.683 --> 00:12:25.228 we keep giving such warnings. 00:12:25.228 --> 00:12:28.092 However, we never say that in essence, these are Prohibited. 00:12:28.092 --> 00:12:32.167 Aren't you aware that generally when kids are getting their schooling, 00:12:32.167 --> 00:12:35.523 then if we see them reading even a novel, or reading a common book, 00:12:35.523 --> 00:12:39.111 then we draw their attention to focus on books prescribed in the syllabus, 00:12:39.111 --> 00:12:41.320 read those books. Hence for each activity, 00:12:41.320 --> 00:12:43.266 there is an appropriate time and context, 00:12:43.266 --> 00:12:46.543 which are taken into consideration while doing it. 00:12:46.543 --> 00:12:50.583 Then again, if we stop people from it, will they stop? 00:12:50.583 --> 00:12:53.694 i.e. if you keep persuading them to the right attitude and nature 00:12:53.694 --> 00:12:57.060 then they will be trained in the right manner. If you tell them that 00:12:57.060 --> 00:12:59.703 you will have to take care of the following drawbacks 00:12:59.703 --> 00:13:01.942 then they would keep those points in memory. 00:13:01.942 --> 00:13:06.279 They will thus control themselves. So I am against the idea that for 00:13:06.279 --> 00:13:11.461 Sadd-e Zariya, if we adopt such strictness then society would be reformed. 00:13:11.461 --> 00:13:16.382 Let us move further on, were all the Sahaba (Companions) of the same level? 00:13:16.382 --> 00:13:18.767 i.e. they comprised the Baddu (Bedouins) as well. 00:13:18.767 --> 00:13:20.969 They would come from the adjoining areas too. 00:13:20.969 --> 00:13:24.534 Did the Prophet made any such announcement for them and said 00:13:24.534 --> 00:13:29.643 that in my gathering, it's okay for these people not to treat 00:13:29.643 --> 00:13:34.006 these things on the principle of Sadd-e Zariya, however, 00:13:34.006 --> 00:13:35.833 you people should remain aloof from it 00:13:35.833 --> 00:13:38.638 as you people do not possess that 'Taqwa', and Godliness. 00:13:38.638 --> 00:13:41.220 i.e. Iman has not yet entered their hearts, 00:13:41.220 --> 00:13:43.540 i.e. there is a group that has accepted Iman, 00:13:43.540 --> 00:13:45.846 and these comments of the Quran pertain to them. 00:13:45.846 --> 00:13:47.798 You people should be careful about it. 00:13:47.798 --> 00:13:50.715 This wasn't the methodology adopted by the Prophet (pbuh). 00:13:50.715 --> 00:13:53.594 And I would humbly submit that our Ulema too 00:13:53.594 --> 00:13:55.668 should rectify themselves in this matter. 00:13:55.668 --> 00:13:58.465 [Hassan] Right. [Ghamidi] The methodologies and attitudes 00:13:58.465 --> 00:14:02.968 adopted by the Prophet (pbuh), are the exemplary attitudes for us. 00:14:02.968 --> 00:14:05.426 Those only should always be kept in consideration. 00:14:05.426 --> 00:14:08.707 Exceeding those, whatever we will do, will in one way or the other 00:14:08.707 --> 00:14:11.978 lead to some problems. Hence we should have the right stand. 00:14:11.978 --> 00:14:17.412 All Fine Arts relate to beauty, that all Fine Arts are completely Permissible. 00:14:17.412 --> 00:14:19.793 Nothing in them, in essence, is Prohibited. 00:14:19.793 --> 00:14:22.331 It is their use, or their overuse, 00:14:22.331 --> 00:14:25.218 where at times some negative comments are to be made. 00:14:25.218 --> 00:14:27.981 [Hassan] Right, Ghamidi Sahab, let us take the discussion along. 00:14:27.981 --> 00:14:30.296 This aspect became clear with reference to the Narration. 00:14:30.296 --> 00:14:31.695 I would like you to go ahead with the next Narration 00:14:31.695 --> 00:14:33.412 and tell us as to what is discussed there? 00:14:33.412 --> 00:14:36.498 [Ghamidi] The next Narration which I am about to read, 00:14:36.498 --> 00:14:40.423 I have taken its text from Nasai's As Sunan ul Kubra, 00:14:40.423 --> 00:14:44.387 its number is 5539. [Hassan] Right. 00:14:44.387 --> 00:14:48.573 [Ghamidi] I am readings its translation. Aamir Bin Saad Bajli narrates, 00:14:48.573 --> 00:14:53.333 'He says that in one marriage ceremony, I sat near Karza Bin Kaab, Abu Masud Ansari 00:14:53.333 --> 00:15:01.361 and Sabit Bin Zaid, when I saw some girls were playing the Daf and singing. 00:15:01.361 --> 00:15:05.735 I said, "Subhanallah, you all are the Companions of the Prophet (pbuh), 00:15:05.735 --> 00:15:07.978 rather the participants of the Battle of Badr, 00:15:07.978 --> 00:15:10.465 and all this is happening right under your nose". 00:15:10.465 --> 00:15:12.353 [Hassan] Okay. [Ghamidi] You see, 00:15:12.353 --> 00:15:14.593 the religious mentality of today's age, 00:15:14.593 --> 00:15:19.851 like in the case of Sadd-e Zariya, it becomes excessively strict, 00:15:19.851 --> 00:15:24.752 or indulgence in these things are considered against the religion. 00:15:24.752 --> 00:15:27.282 Such people existed even in those times. 00:15:27.282 --> 00:15:31.291 Aamir Bin Saad Bajli narrates, 'he says that in one marriage ceremony 00:15:31.291 --> 00:15:36.762 I sat near Karza Bin Kaab, Abu Masud Ansari and Sabit Bin Zaid, 00:15:36.762 --> 00:15:40.174 when I saw, and who are these people he himself has told ahead, 00:15:40.174 --> 00:15:43.506 that some girls were playing the Daf and singing, 00:15:43.506 --> 00:15:45.098 "I said, Subhanallah, 00:15:45.098 --> 00:15:49.557 you all are the Companions of the Prophet (pbuh) 00:15:49.557 --> 00:15:51.855 rather the participants of the Battle of Badr". 00:15:51.855 --> 00:15:54.413 "And all this is taking place right under your nose!" 00:15:54.413 --> 00:15:56.677 Karza and Abu Masud started saying, 00:15:56.677 --> 00:15:59.972 if you wish to, then you may listen to this with us, 00:15:59.972 --> 00:16:02.019 and if you do not wish to you may leave. 00:16:02.019 --> 00:16:04.303 For the reason, we have been given permission 00:16:04.303 --> 00:16:06.850 for singing and playing of music during marriages 00:16:06.850 --> 00:16:10.072 and crying on the dead. if the 'Nauha' (Wailing) is not done in it. 00:16:10.072 --> 00:16:12.535 [Hassan] Subhanallah. [Ghamidi] Therefore, he told him 00:16:12.535 --> 00:16:16.141 leave aside the rest of the time, there can be a debate on it, 00:16:16.141 --> 00:16:19.086 however, on occasions of marriages, we have seen that 00:16:19.086 --> 00:16:23.114 the Prophet has advised for it. In the same way, if some one has died, 00:16:23.114 --> 00:16:26.164 has departed the world, then the expressions of human emotions 00:16:26.164 --> 00:16:30.570 happens in the form of crying. So he warned that 00:16:30.570 --> 00:16:33.507 the Prophet (pbuh) has stopped us from doing wailing, 00:16:33.507 --> 00:16:36.119 however, he hasn't stopped crying. Similarly, 00:16:36.119 --> 00:16:39.502 if these activities become rampant, or their misuse takes place, 00:16:39.502 --> 00:16:42.397 people start going daily to the gatherings of slave-girls, 00:16:42.397 --> 00:16:46.675 or to the night parties, then there is a scope for barring them from this. 00:16:46.675 --> 00:16:49.642 It is the occasion of marriage, and you say such things. 00:16:49.642 --> 00:16:52.900 "If you do not feel like listening to it, then go and do your work", 00:16:52.900 --> 00:16:55.721 "we have the permission of the Prophet (pbuh) for it". 00:16:55.721 --> 00:16:57.293 This was said by them. 00:16:57.293 --> 00:17:02.716 The words 'like the companions of the Prophet, the participants of Badr', 00:17:02.716 --> 00:17:05.020 and all this is taking place in front of them. 00:17:05.020 --> 00:17:06.557 On this, I have written, 00:17:06.557 --> 00:17:10.121 'Why would this question arise with regard to Singing and Music?' 00:17:10.121 --> 00:17:14.274 i.e. what is the reason that even Syedna Siddique too said this? 00:17:14.274 --> 00:17:17.828 The slave- girl adopted this attitude on seeing Syedna Umar 00:17:17.828 --> 00:17:20.778 in front of the Prophet (pbuh)? Which we have read earlier. 00:17:20.778 --> 00:17:24.088 Why this question would arise with regard to Singing and Music? 00:17:24.088 --> 00:17:28.029 We have elaborated earlier that just like in our age, 00:17:28.029 --> 00:17:33.195 its use in that era too, now note here, what was it? 00:17:33.195 --> 00:17:36.625 Its use, similar to our age its use in that era too 00:17:36.625 --> 00:17:39.525 was mostly for the propagation of polytheistic concepts 00:17:39.525 --> 00:17:42.898 and for the propagation of Fawahish (Vulgarity). 00:17:42.898 --> 00:17:47.219 We have commented earlier that if we look into our own time, 00:17:47.219 --> 00:17:52.220 this wrong use can be experienced in multiple places. 00:17:52.220 --> 00:17:56.486 The issues relating to its indulgence, that we see every day as well. 00:17:56.486 --> 00:18:00.230 We experience them, like the way, in the present times, 00:18:00.230 --> 00:18:03.110 we often have to emphatically and strictly draw attention 00:18:03.110 --> 00:18:07.875 in those times too, due to its misuse, or overuse, 00:18:07.875 --> 00:18:10.088 such comments would come forth by the people. 00:18:10.088 --> 00:18:13.132 Why this question would arise with regard to Singing and Music? 00:18:13.132 --> 00:18:16.549 We have elaborated it earlier, that like in our times, 00:18:16.549 --> 00:18:20.718 in those times too, its use was mostly for the propagation of polytheistic concepts 00:18:20.718 --> 00:18:23.372 and for the propagation of Fawahish (Vulgarity). 00:18:23.372 --> 00:18:25.730 The word 'Rukhsat' (Leave) in the Narrations 00:18:25.730 --> 00:18:27.807 have been spoken with this consideration. 00:18:27.807 --> 00:18:31.997 Since this was its general use, then is it the case that we will not use it at all? 00:18:31.997 --> 00:18:34.338 So the word 'Rukhsat' given implies that 00:18:34.338 --> 00:18:38.420 if the content is good, if there isn't any defect in the song, 00:18:38.420 --> 00:18:40.778 if the occasion is such, 00:18:40.778 --> 00:18:45.761 if such overuse isn't there that even the Salah or Sawm is hampered, 00:18:45.761 --> 00:18:49.774 and the religious life is completely ruined then there isn't any harm in it. 00:18:49.774 --> 00:18:54.693 In every language, we can find examples for such use of words. 00:18:54.693 --> 00:18:58.779 The condition of 'Marriages' in this sentence is to convey 00:18:58.779 --> 00:19:03.421 that in general, the business of our lives, i.e. he has replied to him, 00:19:03.421 --> 00:19:06.312 i.e. the word 'Marriages' is used. 00:19:06.312 --> 00:19:09.624 In normal circumstances, our having been busy could, in some aspect, 00:19:09.624 --> 00:19:12.850 have been objectionable, however, on this occasion of happiness, 00:19:12.850 --> 00:19:14.479 its possibility is also not there. 00:19:14.479 --> 00:19:18.078 For the reason that the Prophet (pbuh) himself on this occasion 00:19:18.078 --> 00:19:20.222 and for the same reason has permitted it. 00:19:20.222 --> 00:19:22.279 Therefore he has stated the complete point. 00:19:22.279 --> 00:19:25.010 That this, in essence, is not something prohibited. 00:19:25.010 --> 00:19:27.846 Its use can definitely be for the wrong purposes. 00:19:27.846 --> 00:19:31.641 If you have any worry, you may not sit here and may leave. 00:19:31.641 --> 00:19:34.574 If we had been busy in Normal circumstances in this activity, 00:19:34.574 --> 00:19:37.797 and you had felt that while shirking some religious responsibility 00:19:37.797 --> 00:19:40.282 or exceeding our limits this activity is being done, 00:19:40.282 --> 00:19:42.788 then you could have very well said this. 00:19:42.788 --> 00:19:45.554 In times of marriages, the Prophet has clearly allowed it. 00:19:45.554 --> 00:19:47.591 So what is the reason for objecting to it? 00:19:47.591 --> 00:19:49.254 If you wish to sit you are welcome 00:19:49.254 --> 00:19:51.070 otherwise, you are free to leave the place. 00:19:51.070 --> 00:19:53.444 If you understand the proper context of this sentence, 00:19:53.444 --> 00:19:56.107 then it has been spoken in this meaning. [Hassan] Right. 00:19:56.107 --> 00:20:00.192 [Ghamidi] This leave or rather advise for such occasions by the Prophet (pbuh) , 00:20:00.192 --> 00:20:02.043 have been discussed earlier. 00:20:02.043 --> 00:20:05.644 i.e. the reference which he has given, we have had read those Narrations. 00:20:05.644 --> 00:20:08.774 [Hassan] Right. Okay. Ghamidi Sahab the Narration which you read just now, 00:20:08.774 --> 00:20:10.648 the point which you stated in the note, 00:20:10.648 --> 00:20:13.454 that the Sahaba are speaking this from the aspect that 00:20:13.454 --> 00:20:16.555 in normal circumstances this could be worth condemning, 00:20:16.555 --> 00:20:19.656 so why under normal conditions should this be condemned? 00:20:19.656 --> 00:20:22.021 i.e. the Sahaba have a special position, 00:20:22.021 --> 00:20:25.112 they have become a part of the mission of Prophethood. 00:20:25.112 --> 00:20:26.963 So in which aspect have you written this point of 00:20:26.963 --> 00:20:28.858 'Normal circumstance' which could be worth condemning? 00:20:28.858 --> 00:20:30.998 [Ghamidi] You see, a final narration would also come up soon, 00:20:30.998 --> 00:20:33.749 with that, you will have an idea of the wrong uses of it 00:20:33.749 --> 00:20:35.822 that were prevalent among the Arabs. 00:20:35.822 --> 00:20:38.843 The Prophet (pbuh) himself has commented on its wrong use 00:20:38.843 --> 00:20:41.244 and said that this was a very shameful act. 00:20:41.244 --> 00:20:45.108 Generally, such gatherings would be there. Before this too, 00:20:45.108 --> 00:20:49.395 you have heard that one gathering had been arranged in Madinah 00:20:49.395 --> 00:20:54.929 where Syedna Hamza had slashed the humps of the she-camels of Ali R.A. 00:20:54.929 --> 00:20:58.793 We have heard all this. Obviously, this point is made with this backdrop. 00:20:58.793 --> 00:21:00.917 Obviously, such gatherings happen everywhere. 00:21:00.917 --> 00:21:04.002 So the point of contention is that if we are present in any such gathering 00:21:04.002 --> 00:21:06.301 where from the look of it we get a feeling that 00:21:06.301 --> 00:21:08.783 this isn't the right place for respectable people. 00:21:08.783 --> 00:21:12.012 Or it is not such a place for people to frequent 00:21:12.012 --> 00:21:16.215 whom the Prophet (pbuh) has trained, most of their time should pass 00:21:16.215 --> 00:21:19.069 in the remembrance and love of Allah. 00:21:19.069 --> 00:21:21.990 So who are these people, what is the context? 00:21:21.990 --> 00:21:25.098 What city is it? What sort of gatherings are usual here? 00:21:25.098 --> 00:21:28.291 And if there is an over indulgence in them, 00:21:28.291 --> 00:21:31.408 then obviously there would have been a reason to make a comment, 00:21:31.408 --> 00:21:35.898 but this is an occasion of marriage, why would you have any objection to it? 00:21:35.898 --> 00:21:38.548 [Hassan] Please clarify another aspect Ghamidi Sahab, 00:21:38.548 --> 00:21:41.454 the conversation that is taking place between two Sahaba, 00:21:41.454 --> 00:21:47.150 and it is on the topic of Deen, and if we apply it in the light of the Quran, 00:21:47.150 --> 00:21:49.410 then that activity might have been Prohibited 00:21:49.410 --> 00:21:51.276 and might as well have been stopped, 00:21:51.276 --> 00:21:53.278 then this difference in the understanding 00:21:53.278 --> 00:21:55.731 and application of the religion between two Sahaba, 00:21:55.731 --> 00:21:58.092 with reference to it too, please tell me what comes to light, 00:21:58.092 --> 00:22:01.659 as it is generally said that if the opinion of so and so Sahabi has come, 00:22:01.659 --> 00:22:03.920 then it is the only interpretation of Deen, 00:22:03.920 --> 00:22:06.659 it is the most verified and justified point of view, 00:22:06.659 --> 00:22:08.732 there isn't anything further to say, so we see that 00:22:08.732 --> 00:22:11.273 for such an important issue, and they are differing themselves. 00:22:11.273 --> 00:22:13.936 [Ghamidi] I am repeatedly focussing on the point that 00:22:13.936 --> 00:22:16.516 this is not the right way to understand Deen. 00:22:16.516 --> 00:22:20.194 When you hear the opinion of a Sahabi, or you listen to a Narration, 00:22:20.194 --> 00:22:23.184 or if you come across some comment of the Prophet (pbuh) 00:22:23.184 --> 00:22:26.505 on a certain situation, and deduced the complete Deen from it. 00:22:26.505 --> 00:22:28.670 if you wish to form an opinion regarding Deen, 00:22:28.670 --> 00:22:31.415 then all these lengthy discussions are for the purpose that 00:22:31.415 --> 00:22:33.329 we should adopt the correct way. 00:22:33.329 --> 00:22:35.718 First of all, we should refer to the Book of Allah 00:22:35.718 --> 00:22:39.970 and check if this matter has been discussed in the Book of Allah? 00:22:39.970 --> 00:22:43.552 How has it been stated there? If it relates to Prohibitions then 00:22:43.552 --> 00:22:46.985 ascertain the principles established with regard to 'Prohibitions. 00:22:46.985 --> 00:22:50.037 I have stated those things in great detail earlier. 00:22:50.037 --> 00:22:53.028 Similarly, if something has been issued as a Sunnah, 00:22:53.028 --> 00:22:56.095 then first ascertain it, as to what it actually is? 00:22:56.095 --> 00:22:59.575 What is its backdrop? In what place does the Quran hold it? 00:22:59.575 --> 00:23:01.994 If it is not mentioned in the Quran, 00:23:01.994 --> 00:23:06.274 then how the Prophet (pbuh) has promulgated it among the Muslims? 00:23:06.274 --> 00:23:08.733 And how has it become a part of their practice? 00:23:08.733 --> 00:23:12.191 After learning all these things we may refer to the Narrations. 00:23:12.191 --> 00:23:15.980 When we refer to the Narrations too, then look at not just a single Narration 00:23:15.980 --> 00:23:18.627 or point, rather, by looking into the general conduct. 00:23:18.627 --> 00:23:22.500 The difference that you are seeing here, neither is it the difference of Deen, 00:23:22.500 --> 00:23:24.812 nor the difference in the understanding of Deen. 00:23:24.812 --> 00:23:28.317 It is a difference of temperament. I have said earlier too, 00:23:28.317 --> 00:23:32.362 that this trait is also found in the personality of Syedna Umar R.A. 00:23:32.362 --> 00:23:35.728 i.e. among some people there is greater caution for such matters. 00:23:35.728 --> 00:23:38.643 They don't even like to go near means of entertainment. 00:23:38.643 --> 00:23:42.363 This difference of temperament should also be viewed with praise. 00:23:42.363 --> 00:23:45.138 It should be preserved. and what does it entail? 00:23:45.138 --> 00:23:51.237 It entails that if I have a tendency to go a little astray from the right path, 00:23:51.237 --> 00:23:54.514 then some other elder would be there to draw attention towards it. 00:23:54.514 --> 00:23:57.084 And in this way, that balance would remain 00:23:57.084 --> 00:23:58.677 which is the beauty characteristic of our Deen 00:23:58.677 --> 00:24:00.792 for the reason that this Deen is the Deen of Fitrah (Human Nature). 00:24:00.792 --> 00:24:02.431 [Hassan] Right. Ghamidi Sahab, the last aspect which came forth 00:24:02.431 --> 00:24:04.526 of this Narration, I wish that you briefly comment on it as well. 00:24:04.526 --> 00:24:07.881 It is that if one point of view is held as supreme for a Sahabi, 00:24:07.881 --> 00:24:10.399 the Sahaba should not attend such gatherings 00:24:10.399 --> 00:24:12.907 even on the occasion of marriages, however, 00:24:12.907 --> 00:24:15.366 the life and attitude of other Sahaba is that 00:24:15.366 --> 00:24:18.499 if you hold it as a problem, then you better leave this place, 00:24:18.499 --> 00:24:22.028 if we hold it as being permissible, then we should have the space, 00:24:22.028 --> 00:24:24.856 let us carry it on. We see that generally among us, 00:24:24.856 --> 00:24:28.456 this imbalance is also noticed that if I hold it as a vice, 00:24:28.456 --> 00:24:30.992 then I wish to impose the same on others. 00:24:30.992 --> 00:24:33.015 However, the Sahaba here teach us that if you hold it such 00:24:33.015 --> 00:24:34.624 you may leave, while we do not think it so we can carry it on. 00:24:34.624 --> 00:24:36.393 [Ghamidi] This is the right attitude. 00:24:36.393 --> 00:24:39.552 Every person looks at things from his/her own perspective. 00:24:39.552 --> 00:24:43.086 There may be disagreement on knowledge, understanding, application, 00:24:43.086 --> 00:24:45.970 and as I have said, there may be a difference of temperament. 00:24:45.970 --> 00:24:48.268 We should take care of it. In such instances, 00:24:48.268 --> 00:24:51.149 we should not go about issuing Fatwas as per our whims. 00:24:51.149 --> 00:24:53.995 Our worst misfortune is that, as a nation, once 00:24:53.995 --> 00:24:58.027 we make an opinion about something then we are not ready 00:24:58.027 --> 00:25:00.973 to listen to another opinion even in its context. 00:25:00.973 --> 00:25:04.825 This is the reason that the judgments are decreed among us in black and white. 00:25:04.825 --> 00:25:09.766 However, there are many situations in life that you place under grey areas. 00:25:09.766 --> 00:25:14.288 i.e. those are the situations where one tendency holds a position 00:25:14.288 --> 00:25:16.504 while another tendency too holds its own position. 00:25:16.504 --> 00:25:19.571 There may be one opinion, and there can be another opinion as well. 00:25:19.571 --> 00:25:22.350 Dozens of times it has happened that a comment is made 00:25:22.350 --> 00:25:26.311 about a point so the people say, "Tell us clearly what is right and what is wrong." 00:25:26.311 --> 00:25:30.952 To the extent that at times the same point is there, 00:25:30.952 --> 00:25:34.009 however, from one angle it is considered as right for someone, 00:25:34.009 --> 00:25:38.043 and when viewed from some other's angle then it will be considered as wrong. 00:25:38.043 --> 00:25:41.075 For matters of life too, this opinion has to be formed. 00:25:41.075 --> 00:25:44.402 Hence according to me, the attitude adopted by the Sahaba 00:25:44.402 --> 00:25:46.702 also holds a lesson for us, 00:25:46.702 --> 00:25:49.843 that we should learn to respect the opinions of others. 00:25:49.843 --> 00:25:53.536 We should learn to put our points of view with proper arguments. 00:25:53.536 --> 00:25:56.610 While commenting on something we should take into consideration 00:25:56.610 --> 00:25:59.631 that we have heard something, the other person has a completely 00:25:59.631 --> 00:26:02.400 different take of the whole issue. We should respect that. 00:26:02.400 --> 00:26:05.066 With it, we will have an increase in scholarly temperament. 00:26:05.066 --> 00:26:07.720 A variegation in the ways of thinking will take place. 00:26:07.720 --> 00:26:10.121 There would be a living and dynamic society. 00:26:10.121 --> 00:26:13.268 The biggest mistake that we have committed at our societal level is 00:26:13.268 --> 00:26:16.780 that we haven't let the growth of an environment for healthy criticism. 00:26:16.780 --> 00:26:20.033 i.e. criticism, the criticism where there isn't mockery or taunting. 00:26:20.033 --> 00:26:24.453 Where there isn't any propaganda, where there is no need to unclothe each other. 00:26:24.453 --> 00:26:27.588 Where there is the expression of one's opinions with politeness and decency. 00:26:27.588 --> 00:26:29.495 And put forth its arguments to the people. 00:26:29.495 --> 00:26:32.251 [Hassan] This Narration is also clear. It was an important Narration. 00:26:32.251 --> 00:26:35.787 Many aspects of it came up. I wish you to continue further with this chain. 00:26:35.787 --> 00:26:38.268 Now tell us the next Narration and what is being stated there? 00:26:38.268 --> 00:26:40.552 [Ghamidi] Following this is the Narration 00:26:40.552 --> 00:26:43.176 which we have taken from Musnad-e Is'haq Bin Ragawaih. 00:26:43.176 --> 00:26:48.565 Its number is 624. I am reading the translation. 00:26:48.565 --> 00:26:50.890 Sayyeda Ayesha R.A. states that 00:26:50.890 --> 00:26:57.637 the Prophet (pbuh) heard Abu Musa Ash'ari reciting the Quran. 00:26:57.637 --> 00:27:01.995 The Quran is the Book of Allah, the Prophet (pbuh) too used to read it. 00:27:01.995 --> 00:27:04.998 The other Sahaba used to read it. We too read it. 00:27:04.998 --> 00:27:09.238 The Prophet (pbuh) heard Abu Musa Ash'ari reciting the Quran. 00:27:09.238 --> 00:27:15.517 He had a sweet melodious voice. And was reciting the Quran sitting in the Masjid. 00:27:15.517 --> 00:27:18.000 [Hassan] Okay. [Ghamidi] When the Prophet (pbuh) 00:27:18.000 --> 00:27:21.298 heard his recitation, he said, "There isn't a doubt that this person 00:27:21.298 --> 00:27:23.739 has been bestowed with a harmony from among 00:27:23.739 --> 00:27:26.418 the harmonies of the family of Dawood'. 00:27:26.418 --> 00:27:29.033 [Hassan] Okay. [Ghamidi] This was the comment made 00:27:29.033 --> 00:27:31.311 on his voice. With this, it is also clear that 00:27:31.311 --> 00:27:34.042 there isn't any difference between voice and harmony. 00:27:34.042 --> 00:27:36.149 Melodies come from the same place as voice 00:27:36.149 --> 00:27:38.922 That the people had made a difference 00:27:38.922 --> 00:27:41.530 among us is not valid. It is merely playing with words. 00:27:41.530 --> 00:27:45.837 The reality is when the voice emanates from our vocal chords, 00:27:45.837 --> 00:27:51.628 or from our tongues or our lips, when the voice emanates, 00:27:51.628 --> 00:27:56.655 and we beautify it assumes the form of Singing. 00:27:56.655 --> 00:28:01.898 And we enhance the beauty of this voice through melody. 00:28:01.898 --> 00:28:04.534 Hence this was the comment on the recital of the Quran 00:28:04.534 --> 00:28:07.041 of Syedna Abu Musa Ash'ari. 00:28:07.041 --> 00:28:09.902 i.e. as if he has been given a musical harmony from David. 00:28:09.902 --> 00:28:13.330 He does not recite the Quran with a voice or a sweet voice, 00:28:13.330 --> 00:28:16.940 it seems as if one of the chords bestowed to the family of Dawood, 00:28:16.940 --> 00:28:19.214 and it is spreading forth one of its melodies. 00:28:19.214 --> 00:28:22.638 There is a beautiful commentary and a lot of eloquence in it. 00:28:22.638 --> 00:28:27.446 I have written on it, "This is the assertion of the Glory of God, 00:28:27.446 --> 00:28:30.065 in the supplication and prayers to Him, 00:28:30.065 --> 00:28:34.681 hints towards the heart soothing songs of Syedna Dawood A.S. 00:28:34.681 --> 00:28:39.732 It is known that the Zuboor (Psalms of David) are mostly hymns, songs 00:28:39.732 --> 00:28:42.533 i.e. there are themes for the Glorification of Allah, Dua, 00:28:42.533 --> 00:28:46.077 and it has been revealed in the form of Songs. 00:28:46.077 --> 00:28:50.149 For the Glorification of God, in his supplications and prayers to Him, 00:28:50.149 --> 00:28:54.135 those heart-rendering songs of Syedna Dawood A.S. are being hinted at 00:28:54.135 --> 00:28:57.427 which he used to sing in the most beautiful voice 00:28:57.427 --> 00:29:01.217 along with musical instruments. i.e. it is known about Dawood A.S. 00:29:01.217 --> 00:29:05.784 and the Quran has stated it, and nowhere has it been negated, 00:29:05.784 --> 00:29:09.677 that the Jews have included this music among themselves, 00:29:09.677 --> 00:29:12.244 actually, he used to just read them in a sweet voice. 00:29:12.244 --> 00:29:15.108 If there is any such thing, and it relates to a Prophet 00:29:15.108 --> 00:29:17.829 then the experts of the Quran know that it some way 00:29:17.829 --> 00:29:21.049 or the other points to the fact that this can't be accepted. 00:29:21.049 --> 00:29:26.137 Nothing of this sort was done. It points to those heart-rendering songs 00:29:26.137 --> 00:29:29.547 which he i.e. Syedna Dawood A.S. would sing in the most melodious voice 00:29:29.547 --> 00:29:31.467 along with the musical instruments. 00:29:31.467 --> 00:29:34.512 This has been mentioned in the Quran as well as in the Bible. 00:29:34.512 --> 00:29:38.896 The Book with the name of 'Zuboor', was the collection of these songs. 00:29:38.896 --> 00:29:44.200 The Prophet (pbuh) has seen his voice with appreciation, 00:29:44.200 --> 00:29:48.052 gave reference to the voice of Syedna Dawood A.S. 00:29:48.052 --> 00:29:51.787 and the words that he chose for it, there it was rhetorically indicated 00:29:51.787 --> 00:29:56.810 whether it be the voice or music, the thing which is important is the topic, 00:29:56.810 --> 00:30:01.628 and the topic here is the Book of Allah, so the Prophet (pbuh) has praised it. 00:30:01.628 --> 00:30:04.507 He applauded his elegant voice, there isn't something in it 00:30:04.507 --> 00:30:07.481 where the Prophet (pbuh) had said that in this way 00:30:07.481 --> 00:30:11.903 you are actually attracting people, read it in simple or plain words. 00:30:11.903 --> 00:30:14.066 [Hassan] Right. One supplementary point which comes to mind, 00:30:14.066 --> 00:30:16.283 you have said that it is there in the Quran 00:30:16.283 --> 00:30:20.646 and it is mentioned in the Bible too, that Syedna Dawood had such instruments, 00:30:20.646 --> 00:30:24.320 when he used to recite, so those instruments were also made use of, 00:30:24.320 --> 00:30:27.184 then if there had been a tradition with the Prophets 00:30:27.184 --> 00:30:29.385 then in the whole life of the Prophet (pbuh), 00:30:29.385 --> 00:30:33.433 never do we see a single instance when he himself had played something. 00:30:33.433 --> 00:30:36.545 Therefore if it wasn't matching with the dignity and grace of the Prophet, 00:30:36.545 --> 00:30:38.270 then earlier too this should have been the case. 00:30:38.270 --> 00:30:39.784 And if was there then why it is not seen with the Prophet (pbuh)? 00:30:39.784 --> 00:30:41.972 [Ghamidi] There isn't any question of respect and dignity 00:30:41.972 --> 00:30:43.845 being associated with the act of playing music. 00:30:43.845 --> 00:30:46.566 Whenever a Prophet is made to stand in this world by Allah (swt), 00:30:46.566 --> 00:30:49.677 when he is appointed, then He entrusts him with a responsibility, 00:30:49.677 --> 00:30:52.698 He, according to the responsibilities, is given the Book, 00:30:52.698 --> 00:30:57.640 Guidance too is provided to them, and his personality is also molded accordingly. 00:30:57.640 --> 00:31:00.634 When we study the personalities of the Prophets, 00:31:00.634 --> 00:31:03.527 for example the personality of Syedna Musa A.S. 00:31:03.527 --> 00:31:06.073 The personality of Syedna Dawood is very different. 00:31:06.073 --> 00:31:09.904 The personalities of all the Prophets are not from the same molds. 00:31:09.904 --> 00:31:12.322 The high moral conduct, 00:31:12.322 --> 00:31:15.372 which the Prophet has termed as Makarim-e Akhlaaq'. 00:31:15.372 --> 00:31:19.156 All Prophets in their place are glowing examples of that morality. 00:31:19.156 --> 00:31:21.730 However, the nature, disposition, temperaments 00:31:21.730 --> 00:31:25.400 are quite different, rather the Books that have been revealed by Allah (swt) 00:31:25.400 --> 00:31:27.146 have very different styles. 00:31:27.146 --> 00:31:30.342 Hazrat Isa A.S. used to talk in allegories. 00:31:30.342 --> 00:31:33.240 You see so many beautiful allegories are there in the Gospels. 00:31:33.240 --> 00:31:34.819 Those are found in the Quran too. 00:31:34.819 --> 00:31:37.391 However, the Quran does not abound with them. 00:31:37.391 --> 00:31:40.066 Like the allegories, we find in the Gospel. 00:31:40.066 --> 00:31:42.942 Hence, every Prophet has his own taste, own disposition, 00:31:42.942 --> 00:31:44.971 there can't be an argument based upon it. 00:31:44.971 --> 00:31:46.575 [Hassan] Right, Ghamidi Sahab, let us move ahead with this chain, 00:31:46.575 --> 00:31:48.387 and let us know what is the next Narration? 00:31:48.387 --> 00:31:50.021 And what is discussed there? 00:31:50.021 --> 00:31:52.071 [Ghamidi] The Narration that follows 00:31:52.071 --> 00:31:56.413 is from Sahih Ibn-e Habban, its number is 892. 00:31:56.413 --> 00:32:03.582 Buraida Aslami R.A. states that he entered a Masjid with the Prophet (pbuh). 00:32:03.582 --> 00:32:07.387 He saw that a person while making Dua is saying, 00:32:07.387 --> 00:32:12.419 " Ya Allah, I ask you in return for my witness that 00:32:12.419 --> 00:32:17.501 There isn't any God except You. The Only and the support for all, 00:32:17.501 --> 00:32:20.954 Who neither has a father nor any peer. 00:32:20.954 --> 00:32:25.331 When the Prophet heard this he said, "I swear by the Being 00:32:25.331 --> 00:32:30.275 who holds control of my life, he has really asked 00:32:30.275 --> 00:32:33.291 in return for that great attribute of Allah, 00:32:33.291 --> 00:32:37.250 the attribute through which, if asked, then He bestows 00:32:37.250 --> 00:32:40.407 and if called through it, then He hears it necessarily". 00:32:40.407 --> 00:32:42.863 This was the comment made by the Prophet (pbuh). 00:32:42.863 --> 00:32:44.311 Then the Prophet saw a person 00:32:44.311 --> 00:32:47.259 sitting in the corner of the Masjid and reciting the Quran. 00:32:47.259 --> 00:32:50.056 i.e. first he saw that a person is making a supplication. 00:32:50.056 --> 00:32:53.074 Asking a Dua, there are some words being uttered by him. 00:32:53.074 --> 00:32:55.345 He appreciated those words. 00:32:55.345 --> 00:32:58.061 Then he saw a person sitting in the corner of the Masjid 00:32:58.061 --> 00:33:02.930 and reciting the Quran. The Prophet said that there isn't a doubt 00:33:02.930 --> 00:33:05.238 that he has been gifted with the harmony 00:33:05.238 --> 00:33:07.829 from among the harmonies of the family of Dawood. 00:33:07.829 --> 00:33:11.648 He was Abdullah Bin Qais. i.e. the person reciting the Quran, who was he? 00:33:11.648 --> 00:33:14.671 He was Abdullah Bin Qais, who is called Abu Musa Ash'ari. 00:33:14.671 --> 00:33:18.393 It seems probable that the Narration that we read previously was very brief. 00:33:18.393 --> 00:33:19.779 Here we have the details. 00:33:19.779 --> 00:33:22.974 Buraida says that I asked the Prophet (pbuh), 00:33:22.974 --> 00:33:25.847 O Messenger of Allah should I convey this comment to him? 00:33:25.847 --> 00:33:30.429 The Prophet said, "Yes go ahead". Hence as I said to Abu Musa, 00:33:30.429 --> 00:33:35.300 then he said in elation, that now you are my friend forever. 00:33:35.300 --> 00:33:37.344 Then he said that if I had known that 00:33:37.344 --> 00:33:40.317 the Prophet (pbuh) is hearing my recital, 00:33:40.317 --> 00:33:42.749 then I would have read it much better than that. 00:33:42.749 --> 00:33:45.178 [Hassan] Subhanallah. [Ghamidi] Here you can see 00:33:45.178 --> 00:33:48.849 both the things in the Narrations, if some person has made a Dua, 00:33:48.849 --> 00:33:51.361 and the words used in the Dua are good, 00:33:51.361 --> 00:33:55.722 proper references have been made, if there is some part of the Quran that 00:33:55.722 --> 00:33:59.815 has been read in it which really has a connection with the topic, 00:33:59.815 --> 00:34:02.283 then the Prophet (pbuh) has appreciated that. 00:34:02.283 --> 00:34:05.226 Here the Quran is being read, its recitation is being done, 00:34:05.226 --> 00:34:08.243 the voice is melodious, it is being read with a sweet voice, 00:34:08.243 --> 00:34:11.915 the Prophet (pbuh) praises it, and the same words that 00:34:11.915 --> 00:34:14.104 were mentioned earlier, we see those here too, 00:34:14.104 --> 00:34:15.918 and when he was made aware of that praise, 00:34:15.918 --> 00:34:18.393 he became extremely happy, and he was so filled with ecstasy 00:34:18.393 --> 00:34:19.994 that he went on to say that had he knew 00:34:19.994 --> 00:34:22.245 then he would have read more harmoniously. 00:34:22.245 --> 00:34:28.930 With a sweeter tone and melody. The objective for telling this is 00:34:28.930 --> 00:34:34.578 that for all such things the Prophet has adopted this attitude. 00:34:34.578 --> 00:34:36.218 Now, if some person asks that 00:34:36.218 --> 00:34:39.590 did the Prophet (pbuh) himself ever sit and read it in that way or not? 00:34:39.590 --> 00:34:41.225 It is not needed. The Prophet (pbuh) 00:34:41.225 --> 00:34:43.729 himself would read with a lot of excellence, however, 00:34:43.729 --> 00:34:45.391 the voice and style, 00:34:45.391 --> 00:34:48.251 the sweetness of the recital of Abu Musa Ash'ari, 00:34:48.251 --> 00:34:51.612 was highlighted by the Prophet (pbuh) and even appreciated it. 00:34:51.612 --> 00:34:53.612 [Hassan] Right Ghamidi Sahab. [Ghamidi] After this, 00:34:53.612 --> 00:34:56.443 the Narration which I am presenting to you is from Sahih Bukhari. 00:34:56.443 --> 00:34:59.816 Its number is 7544. [Hassan] Right. 00:34:59.816 --> 00:35:05.476 [Ghamidi] Abu Huraira R.A. states that he heard the Prophet (pbuh) say, 00:35:05.476 --> 00:35:10.547 that any Prophet of Allah, when he reads the Quran with a sweet and loud voice, 00:35:10.547 --> 00:35:14.682 then Allah (swt) listens to it with an attention 00:35:14.682 --> 00:35:20.298 He does not listen to anything else. So what does this Narration tell? 00:35:20.298 --> 00:35:23.548 i.e. if Abu Musa Ash'ari has read the Quran with a nice voice, 00:35:23.548 --> 00:35:26.831 so if you get to listen to it, then you should applaud it too. 00:35:26.831 --> 00:35:30.848 When the Prophet of Allah would listen to it, then he too would appreciate it. 00:35:30.848 --> 00:35:33.908 And here it was told that the Lord of this universe 00:35:33.908 --> 00:35:37.617 listens to it with attention as well. That point which was said at an occasion, 00:35:37.617 --> 00:35:39.600 when a person came and said that 00:35:39.600 --> 00:35:44.537 I like my shoes and dress be very beautiful so it was said, 00:35:44.537 --> 00:35:46.949 "Allahul Jameel Wa Yuhibbul Jamaal". 00:35:46.949 --> 00:35:51.573 'Allah Himself is beautiful and He loves beauty and elegance too'. 00:35:51.573 --> 00:35:54.701 Here it was told that melodious sweet voice, 00:35:54.701 --> 00:36:00.427 the voice which mesmerizes, like the voice of Abu Musa Ash'ari. 00:36:00.427 --> 00:36:04.020 Or of any other person, it wasn't just that I liked this voice, 00:36:04.020 --> 00:36:05.996 this voice should be liked by all, 00:36:05.996 --> 00:36:09.903 rather this voice is liked by the Lord of this Universe. 00:36:09.903 --> 00:36:13.144 So it implies that the things of beauty created by Allah (swt), 00:36:13.144 --> 00:36:16.408 are the favourite things of Allah. 00:36:16.408 --> 00:36:21.567 The beauty, elegance rather the sense of the aesthetics of Allah 00:36:21.567 --> 00:36:26.701 are manifested in those things of beauty. 00:36:26.701 --> 00:36:29.302 Hence these things should never be looked down upon, 00:36:29.302 --> 00:36:32.221 it implies that they should never be considered with scorn. 00:36:32.221 --> 00:36:34.700 i.e. it should not be thought as to what difference does it make? 00:36:34.700 --> 00:36:36.790 The Quran is the Book of Allah, we have to read it. 00:36:36.790 --> 00:36:40.016 When we read it we have to actually receive guidance from it. 00:36:40.016 --> 00:36:43.405 So what is the point in reading it with a good voice? 00:36:43.405 --> 00:36:47.093 So it was told that these are the aspects of beauty, elegance, and adornment. 00:36:47.093 --> 00:36:51.846 These have their own place. And it is liked by me as well as by my Lord. 00:36:51.846 --> 00:36:54.060 [Hassan] Right. [Ghamidi] So with this aspect, 00:36:54.060 --> 00:36:57.613 this Narration should be viewed. After this, we have taken the Narration 00:36:57.613 --> 00:37:02.896 from Musnad-e Ahmad, its number is 13377. 00:37:02.896 --> 00:37:10.709 Anas Bin Malik R.A. states that the Prophet (pbuh) was in one of his journeys. 00:37:10.709 --> 00:37:17.070 And along with him was a black young man, whose name was Anjasha. 00:37:17.070 --> 00:37:20.819 He had a good voice and would accompany his wives 00:37:20.819 --> 00:37:23.029 and sing songs while driving the camels. 00:37:23.029 --> 00:37:25.022 [Hassan] Okay. [Ghamidi] I am presenting 00:37:25.022 --> 00:37:28.812 these Narrations especially to you that 'women should not hear the voice of men', 00:37:28.812 --> 00:37:30.766 'men should not hear the voice of women', etc. 00:37:30.766 --> 00:37:33.552 Look at what comes forth in the light of these Narrations? 00:37:33.552 --> 00:37:36.573 With this, the reality also comes to be known that 00:37:36.573 --> 00:37:40.212 the point stated with regard to the Prophet's wives, 00:37:40.212 --> 00:37:44.357 that too has a context. I have had a detailed discussion on it. 00:37:44.357 --> 00:37:46.779 Those people who have inferred from it that 00:37:46.779 --> 00:37:48.772 even the voice of a woman is to be veiled, 00:37:48.772 --> 00:37:51.320 they haven't really understood the whole point. 00:37:51.320 --> 00:37:55.317 That point wasn't made there at all. There it was a specific situation, 00:37:55.317 --> 00:37:58.872 an occasion where the Prophet's wives have been instructed that 00:37:58.872 --> 00:38:02.067 these hypocrites who present themselves on your door. 00:38:02.067 --> 00:38:05.726 They are up to different conspiracies, and have mischief in their minds. 00:38:05.726 --> 00:38:09.179 Be wary of them. From that, the people deduced this! 00:38:09.179 --> 00:38:13.357 Here you see, that the Prophet (pbuh), is listening to women, slave-girls. 00:38:13.357 --> 00:38:15.831 He goes on further to say to Sayyeda Ayesha that 00:38:15.831 --> 00:38:18.126 if you wish to hear then she listens too. 00:38:18.126 --> 00:38:20.581 Black men are singing too, they are being listened to. 00:38:20.581 --> 00:38:22.930 And here as well you see, what are the words, 00:38:22.930 --> 00:38:26.180 "He had a sweet voice, his name was Anjasha, 00:38:26.180 --> 00:38:29.912 a black young man, who had a melodious voice, 00:38:29.912 --> 00:38:32.746 and used to accompany the Prophet's wives in the caravan 00:38:32.746 --> 00:38:35.717 to sing and drive the camels. Do you know what Hudi is? 00:38:35.717 --> 00:38:40.695 These are the songs that are sung to drive and speed up the camels. 00:38:40.695 --> 00:38:42.745 Those are called Hudi. 00:38:42.745 --> 00:38:45.979 This word is also similarly used in the Urdu language. 00:38:45.979 --> 00:38:49.864 So he used to do 'Hudi-Khwaani'. i.e. he used to sing such a song 00:38:49.864 --> 00:38:56.133 that the camels would speed up. And the journey would complete fast. 00:38:56.133 --> 00:39:00.554 Hence, on an occasion, i.e. he would accompany the Prophet's wives, 00:39:00.554 --> 00:39:03.599 and sing to drive the camels, hence on an occasion, 00:39:03.599 --> 00:39:06.002 he really speeded up the camels of the Caravan. 00:39:06.002 --> 00:39:08.448 [Hassan] Okay. [Ghamidi] i.e. he sang the Hudi, 00:39:08.448 --> 00:39:12.718 and did it so well that the camels of the caravan went on fast. 00:39:12.718 --> 00:39:18.888 Anas R.A. says that when he was near the Prophet and Anjasha he heard, 00:39:18.888 --> 00:39:23.056 that the Prophet on seeing this said, Alas, I feel sorry for you Anjasha 00:39:23.056 --> 00:39:27.350 please go slow Anjasha, let these Aabgeens (delicate vessels made of mud) move slowly 00:39:27.350 --> 00:39:30.615 i.e. these are women folk. See what a beautiful expression is it. 00:39:30.615 --> 00:39:32.735 Let these 'Aabgeens' travel slowly, 00:39:32.735 --> 00:39:35.815 i.e. he meant that the women are sitting on the camels, 00:39:35.815 --> 00:39:39.485 and if you sing in this way, and if the camels move on at this speed, 00:39:39.485 --> 00:39:41.984 then there is a fear that they might get harmed. 00:39:41.984 --> 00:39:43.579 [Hassan] The comment has been made on the speeding camels. 00:39:43.579 --> 00:39:45.308 [Ghamidi] The comment has been made on it. 00:39:45.308 --> 00:39:48.939 However, he used to sing Hudi, and would do so in a good voice. 00:39:48.939 --> 00:39:51.735 He used to accompany the Prophet's wives on the journey. 00:39:51.735 --> 00:39:55.968 He used to sing Hudi and did his job in such a wonderful voice, 00:39:55.968 --> 00:39:58.485 that the camels would start moving speedily. 00:39:58.485 --> 00:40:01.256 Here the Prophet said to him, sing in a lower voice. 00:40:01.256 --> 00:40:05.267 That you have such an exceptional power to mesmerize with your voice, 00:40:05.267 --> 00:40:08.962 that the camels do not pause at all, they just race forward. 00:40:08.962 --> 00:40:12.966 A little lower in voice as the camels have delicate vessels on them. 00:40:12.966 --> 00:40:15.112 And they might get harmed. 00:40:15.112 --> 00:40:16.996 [Hassan] This Narration Ghamidi Sahab was quite exceptional. 00:40:16.996 --> 00:40:17.825 It is well expounded. 00:40:17.825 --> 00:40:19.522 The time for this session is also nearing its end. 00:40:19.522 --> 00:40:20.488 I wish that you present the last Narration for today. 00:40:20.488 --> 00:40:22.159 And then we would move towards the close. 00:40:22.159 --> 00:40:24.165 This is the Narration of Syedna Umar R.A. 00:40:24.165 --> 00:40:27.324 and we have taken it from Nasai's As Sunan ul Kubra. 00:40:27.324 --> 00:40:30.575 Its number is 8193. 00:40:30.575 --> 00:40:33.777 Umar R.A. states, i.e. Syedna Umar, 00:40:33.777 --> 00:40:37.052 Umar Ibn-e Khattab R.A. Umar R.A. states that 00:40:37.052 --> 00:40:41.033 the Prophet (pbuh) in one of his journeys, 00:40:41.033 --> 00:40:47.106 said to Abdullah Bin Rawaha, would you speed up our rides a little. 00:40:47.106 --> 00:40:50.291 i.e. he himself requested for singing the Hudi. 00:40:50.291 --> 00:40:52.175 [Hassan] Okay. [Ghamidi] When the camels 00:40:52.175 --> 00:40:54.742 are journeying and the cameleers are with them. 00:40:54.742 --> 00:40:57.263 There are women as well men among them. 00:40:57.263 --> 00:41:00.346 And at times the camels slow down a bit, 00:41:00.346 --> 00:41:03.400 so the Prophet (pbuh) said to Abdullah Bin Rawaha, 00:41:03.400 --> 00:41:07.715 "Would you speed up our rides a little", Abdullah replied, 00:41:07.715 --> 00:41:11.050 "I have stopped with the singing of Hudi". 00:41:11.050 --> 00:41:14.160 On this Umar R.A. said, "Listen and Obey". 00:41:14.160 --> 00:41:17.852 You have stopped? What is this? The Prophet (pbuh) has said. 00:41:17.852 --> 00:41:22.487 You note the nature of a person, how it manifests? 00:41:22.487 --> 00:41:26.742 Umar said, "Listen and obey", hence he sang these couplets. 00:41:26.742 --> 00:41:29.299 "O Allah, had Your Mercy not been there, 00:41:29.299 --> 00:41:31.495 then we neither would have received Guidance, 00:41:31.495 --> 00:41:34.439 nor would have made charity. Neither would we offer Salah, 00:41:34.439 --> 00:41:38.262 so now bestow us with your peace and keep us steadfast 00:41:38.262 --> 00:41:41.487 in case of an encounter with the enemy". 00:41:41.487 --> 00:41:43.980 The original words that are used in it are 00:41:43.980 --> 00:41:49.614 "Allahumma Lawla Anta Mahtadaina Wala Tassaddaqna 00:41:49.614 --> 00:41:55.976 Wala Sallaina Fa Anzalan Sakinatan Ilaina Was Sabbitul akdaama In Laa Kaina" 00:41:55.976 --> 00:41:59.621 These were the couplets read by him, I have read its translation to you. 00:41:59.621 --> 00:42:03.224 When the Prophet (pbuh) heard these pure words, 00:42:03.224 --> 00:42:07.726 he said, "Ya Allah have Mercy upon him". Umar R.A. immediately said 00:42:07.726 --> 00:42:09.896 "Now the Mercy has become compulsory!" 00:42:09.896 --> 00:42:12.077 [Hassan] Subhanallah. [Ghamidi] There are some 00:42:12.077 --> 00:42:16.095 other aspects as well, i.e. how the Sahaba used to see the Prophet (pbuh)? 00:42:16.095 --> 00:42:20.572 What was the importance of a request of the Prophet (pbuh) for Syedna Umar R.A. 00:42:20.572 --> 00:42:22.905 And the point that if on any occasion 00:42:22.905 --> 00:42:26.698 the Prophet has blessed someone with such a sentence, 00:42:26.698 --> 00:42:29.415 then what was its significance for them? 00:42:29.415 --> 00:42:32.499 However, as of now, this aspect does not relate to our topic. 00:42:32.499 --> 00:42:34.735 Still, the real point is clear even in this. 00:42:34.735 --> 00:42:36.841 That such couplets were sung 00:42:36.841 --> 00:42:39.533 and the Prophet (pbuh) himself had requested for them. 00:42:39.533 --> 00:42:42.405 [Hassan] Ghamidi Sahab, all those Narrations from the corpus of Hadees 00:42:42.405 --> 00:42:44.356 where, with reference to Singing and Music, 00:42:44.356 --> 00:42:46.991 with some aspect or the other, some point has been discussed 00:42:46.991 --> 00:42:49.269 and those Narrations are acceptable to us 00:42:49.269 --> 00:42:50.997 with respect to their Chain of Narrations, 00:42:50.997 --> 00:42:52.856 i.e. either those are Sahih or the level of Hasan. 00:42:52.856 --> 00:42:55.203 We are exploring the whole corpus of Hadees with you. 00:42:55.203 --> 00:42:57.620 And the arguments that you had pointed out 00:42:57.620 --> 00:42:59.315 in the introductory Sessions, 00:42:59.315 --> 00:43:01.509 their applications are also becoming clear in these. 00:43:01.509 --> 00:43:03.769 A lot of newer aspects were unraveled in Today's session. 00:43:03.769 --> 00:43:05.249 I would wish that in the next episode 00:43:05.249 --> 00:43:07.986 all the Narrations would be completed inshallah. 00:43:07.986 --> 00:43:10.676 And after that a concise and complete analysis that 00:43:10.676 --> 00:43:13.381 the biographical recorda in history have in them, about the Prophet (pbuh). 00:43:13.381 --> 00:43:16.243 What aspects are stated with reference to Singing and Music? 00:43:16.243 --> 00:43:18.431 We have exhausted our time, we shall again be at your service. 00:43:18.431 --> 00:43:20.877 Thank you very much for your time till now. 00:43:20.877 --> 00:43:22.261 [Ghamidi] Thank you very much.