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Dialogue: 0,0:00:01.29,0:00:05.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Response to 23 Questions Part- 65 Singing \Nand Music, Episode- 8 Javed Ahmed Ghamidi
Dialogue: 0,0:00:11.74,0:00:13.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Hassan Ilyas] Bismillahir Rahmanir\NRahim, As Salam Alaikum
Dialogue: 0,0:00:13.74,0:00:16.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Welcome to yet another Session of \N'From the Desk of Ghamidi'.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:16.06,0:00:18.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The chain of discussions continues\Non the 23 Objections.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:18.52,0:00:20.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Today is the 65th Episode\Nof that Series.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:20.60,0:00:23.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The important objection on\NSinging and Music is under debate.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:23.51,0:00:26.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And today we are about to begin \Nthe 8th Session on this particular topic.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:26.26,0:00:28.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Thank you very much\NGhamidi Sahab for your time.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:28.48,0:00:32.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Let us start, the Narrations that\Nyou were stating in the last session
Dialogue: 0,0:00:32.43,0:00:35.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and we were trying to know that all \Nthat is found in the corpus of Hadees
Dialogue: 0,0:00:35.78,0:00:38.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with reference to Singing and Music,\Nfrom those Narrations
Dialogue: 0,0:00:38.56,0:00:40.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which according to \Nthe Chain of Narrations
Dialogue: 0,0:00:40.59,0:00:44.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are of the level of Sahih or Hasan. \NWe read each and every Narration
Dialogue: 0,0:00:44.59,0:00:48.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the introduction which you stated,\Nafter understanding it from the Quran,
Dialogue: 0,0:00:48.17,0:00:51.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that actually it is the use of things \Nwhich turns them as forbidden.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:51.53,0:00:53.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The basis of which is \Npresent in Surah Aaraf,
Dialogue: 0,0:00:53.89,0:00:56.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which are those 5 things. \NThere isn't any explicit mention
Dialogue: 0,0:00:56.08,0:00:58.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of the Prohibition of Singing and Music.\NThose too are being applied
Dialogue: 0,0:00:58.89,0:01:01.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in each and every Narration\Nby us to understand the correct situation.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:01.33,0:01:03.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Please go ahead and tell us \Nwhere do we stand
Dialogue: 0,0:01:03.07,0:01:05.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with respect to the chain \Nof Narrations?
Dialogue: 0,0:01:05.14,0:01:08.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What is the next narration?\NAnd what actually is discussed therein?
Dialogue: 0,0:01:08.31,0:01:11.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Javed Ahmed Ghamidi] We have \Nread 15 Narrations before this.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:11.49,0:01:15.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is the 16th, its text has been \Ntaken from Sahih Bukhari as well.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:15.30,0:01:18.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Its number is 952.\N[Hassan] Right.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:18.22,0:01:20.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Ghamidi] I am just reading the \Ntranslation.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:20.44,0:01:25.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Sayyeda Ayesha says Abu Bakr R.A.\Ncame to my house.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:25.66,0:01:27.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He was her respected father.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:27.84,0:01:30.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Abu Bakr R.A. came to my house.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:30.15,0:01:34.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,At that moment two slave-girls\Nfrom Ansar were playing the 'Daf'
Dialogue: 0,0:01:34.50,0:01:38.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and singing the song which\Nthe Ansar had sung for each other
Dialogue: 0,0:01:38.24,0:01:41.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on the day of the Battle of Buaas.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:41.44,0:01:45.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Generally, there used to be the \Nslave-girls who would sing songs.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:45.41,0:01:47.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They used to sing in gatherings\Nas well as in houses.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:47.94,0:01:51.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,At that moment two slave-girls\Nfrom Ansar were playing the 'Daf'
Dialogue: 0,0:01:51.74,0:01:54.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and singing the song which\Nthe Ansar had sung for each other
Dialogue: 0,0:01:54.64,0:01:56.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on the day of the Battle of Buaas.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:56.57,0:02:03.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The Prophet (pbuh) had covered his face \Nwith a cloth and was taking rest.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:03.85,0:02:07.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,i.e. those slave-girls were singing \Nand playing the Daf too,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:07.32,0:02:11.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Sayyeda was listening to it, the\NProphet (pbuh) was taking rest
Dialogue: 0,0:02:11.89,0:02:16.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and he (pbuh) had covered \Nhis face with a cloth.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:16.41,0:02:22.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The Prophet (pbuh) covering\Nhis face was taking a rest,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:22.48,0:02:26.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,however, neither did he say anything \Nto them nor he was stopping them.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:26.83,0:02:29.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,i.e. it did not happen that he \Nexpressed some dislike
Dialogue: 0,0:02:29.68,0:02:33.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or drew the attention of Sayyeda,\Nor had stopped them from doing this.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:33.08,0:02:35.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They were singing and playing\Nthe 'Daf' as well.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:35.82,0:02:39.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Sayyeda was listening to it, the \NProphet (pbuh) was present there too.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:39.49,0:02:42.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,However, he did not utter\Nany sentence of objection.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:42.30,0:02:45.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And neither did he adopt an \Nattitude of objection.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:45.75,0:02:48.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,However, neither did he say anything to\Nthem nor did he stop them.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:48.95,0:02:53.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Sayyeda says that both those slave-girls\Nweren't professional singers.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:53.11,0:02:56.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,i.e. one should not think that\Nthey were professional singers
Dialogue: 0,0:02:56.29,0:03:01.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who had been called and they\Nwere displaying their Art there.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:01.29,0:03:05.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Like the slave-girls usually sang\Nin houses and elsewhere too.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:05.87,0:03:08.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Such were these two \Nslave-girls from Ansar
Dialogue: 0,0:03:08.53,0:03:11.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who had been playing\Nthe Daf and singing that song.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:11.77,0:03:15.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When Abu Bakr R.A. saw this,\Nhe said astonishingly,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:15.62,0:03:21.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"In the house of the Prophet (pbuh) \Nsuch Satanic instruments of music!"
Dialogue: 0,0:03:21.09,0:03:23.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,i.e. Syedna Siddique R.A. \Nmade this comment on it.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:23.87,0:03:27.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now you see, probably\Nhe must have thought
Dialogue: 0,0:03:27.21,0:03:29.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that the Prophet ( pbuh) \Nwas unaware of it.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:29.61,0:03:32.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Or he (pbuh) is taking rest and \Npossibly is asleep.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:32.91,0:03:35.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Or he did not pay attention to it.\NSo he said,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:35.35,0:03:41.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"In the house of the Prophet (pbuh) \Nsuch Satanic instruments of music!"
Dialogue: 0,0:03:41.12,0:03:46.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Sayyeda says that it was the day of Eid.\NWhen the Prophet (pbuh) heard this,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:46.82,0:03:50.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he uncovered his\Nface (pbuh) and said,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:50.69,0:03:52.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Abu Bakr let these girls sing,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:52.76,0:03:56.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,every nation has an Eid \Nand it is the day of our Eid."
Dialogue: 0,0:03:56.46,0:03:58.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Hassan] SubhanAllah, okay.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:58.38,0:04:02.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Ghamidi] Just imagine the way \Nthe Prophet has conveyed these teachings.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:02.60,0:04:06.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,i.e. the religious mentality becomes \Nsensitive about these things.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:06.25,0:04:08.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It should come on \Nto the right equilibrium.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:08.73,0:04:12.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It should learn to see things\Nin their proper context and place.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:12.13,0:04:15.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It should become aware what\Nis the context of something?
Dialogue: 0,0:04:15.61,0:04:18.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,On what occasion a certain \Nactivity is not just permitted,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:18.53,0:04:22.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,rather, it should be done.\NThat the human nature demands it.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:22.90,0:04:28.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When the Prophet (pbuh) heard this,\Nhe uncovered his face and said,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:28.13,0:04:33.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Abu Bakr let these girls sing,\Nevery nation has an Eid
Dialogue: 0,0:04:33.52,0:04:36.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and this is the day of our Eid".
Dialogue: 0,0:04:36.53,0:04:42.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"So when Abu Bakr R.A. attended to \Nother things then I waved at the girls,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:42.66,0:04:45.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,hence both of them left the place".\N[Hassan] Who had waved?
Dialogue: 0,0:04:45.70,0:04:47.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Ghamidi] Sayyeda, \NSayyeda says that
Dialogue: 0,0:04:47.46,0:04:53.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this wasn't liked by her father, so \Nin spite of this comment
Dialogue: 0,0:04:53.87,0:04:57.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from the Prophet (pbuh) she didn't want \Nthis to continue,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:57.79,0:05:01.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so she hinted to the girls,\Nhence they obviously left the place.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:01.96,0:05:03.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is the Narration. \NNow you see,
Dialogue: 0,0:05:03.92,0:05:08.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when Syedna Abu Bakr said,\N"In the House of the Prophet (pbuh)
Dialogue: 0,0:05:08.36,0:05:12.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,these Satanic instruments of music",\NI have written a note on it.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:12.55,0:05:14.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This comment has been made
Dialogue: 0,0:05:14.62,0:05:17.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in consideration of the \Nuse of musical instruments,
Dialogue: 0,0:05:17.49,0:05:23.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the era of Pagan Arabia which\Nwe see day and night even in our times.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:23.38,0:05:26.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What is being played here?\NDaf is being played here.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:26.48,0:05:33.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He has categorized the Daf within the \Ndefinition of musical instruments.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:33.60,0:05:36.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,With this, it becomes clear that \NDaf is no different
Dialogue: 0,0:05:36.76,0:05:39.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from the class of musical instruments.\N[Hassan] An important point.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:39.93,0:05:42.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Ghamidi] i.e. like the other \Ninstruments of music,
Dialogue: 0,0:05:42.18,0:05:45.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this too is among the\Ninstruments of music.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:45.34,0:05:49.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He did not like it, and from \Nwhat aspect did he not like them?
Dialogue: 0,0:05:49.50,0:05:51.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That even if it is\Na permissible activity,
Dialogue: 0,0:05:51.54,0:05:54.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then how can it be done inside the\Nhouse of the Prophet (pbuh)?
Dialogue: 0,0:05:54.49,0:05:57.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And what was the point \Ntowards which the Prophet (pbuh)
Dialogue: 0,0:05:57.07,0:05:59.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,drew his attention?\NWhether, it is my house
Dialogue: 0,0:05:59.01,0:06:02.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or of somebody else', \Nthese activities also have a place,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:02.09,0:06:05.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and how was it elaborated?\NToday is the day of Eid,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:05.34,0:06:08.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,every nation has a day of Eid.\NToday is our Eid.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:08.08,0:06:11.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If there is some singing and music,\Nsome entertainment is being done,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:11.39,0:06:13.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then there should not\Nbe any objection to it.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:13.96,0:06:16.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This point was focused on \Nby the Prophet (pbuh).
Dialogue: 0,0:06:16.91,0:06:19.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This comment has been made\Nin consideration of the
Dialogue: 0,0:06:19.34,0:06:22.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,use of musical instruments, \Namong the pagan Arabs,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:22.12,0:06:25.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which we see day and \Nnight even in our times.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:25.51,0:06:28.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This term is there in multiple places\Nin the Narrations that
Dialogue: 0,0:06:28.47,0:06:32.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,these are Satanic instruments or\Nthese are the voices of Satan,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:32.03,0:06:34.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This term has been used in\Nmultiple places in the Narrations,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:34.100,0:06:39.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in consideration of this aspect, since \Ntheir general use is not seen as good,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:39.03,0:06:43.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it is thought that \Nthis is a nocturnal party,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:43.02,0:06:46.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,these are played there, \Nand slave-girls sing there,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:46.01,0:06:50.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and they use all sort of couplets. \NSince these activities are common
Dialogue: 0,0:06:50.25,0:06:53.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the pious do\Nnot generally like them.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:53.16,0:06:56.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Hence Syedna Siddique said \Nthis in consideration of the same.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:56.08,0:06:58.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Hassan] Right.\N[Ghamidi] The Prophet (pbuh),
Dialogue: 0,0:06:58.50,0:07:05.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,i.e. the personality like Syedna Siddique\Nsaid this, the Prophet made it clear
Dialogue: 0,0:07:05.32,0:07:10.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from his action that none among \Nthese in essence is forbidden.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:10.50,0:07:12.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now you see what in\Nessence is not forbidden?
Dialogue: 0,0:07:12.91,0:07:15.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Singing, in essence, is not forbidden.\NOne point.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:15.89,0:07:19.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Even the singing of the girls\Nin essence is not forbidden.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:19.01,0:07:21.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If you listen to their\Nsinging, and you are a male
Dialogue: 0,0:07:21.71,0:07:23.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then this too, in essence, \Nis not forbidden.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:23.87,0:07:27.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And it was also made clear along\Nwith it that the Daf was being played,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:27.79,0:07:31.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,obviously, it is among the common\Ninstruments for music,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:31.03,0:07:34.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,hence singing along with the instruments\Nof music is also not forbidden.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:34.64,0:07:38.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Hence, with his practice, all this \Nwas clarified by the Prophet (pbuh).
Dialogue: 0,0:07:38.00,0:07:40.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The Prophet made it clear from\Nhis action that
Dialogue: 0,0:07:40.46,0:07:43.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,none among these, \Nin essence, is forbidden.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:43.35,0:07:47.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It is their good or bad use,\Nwhich at times becomes
Dialogue: 0,0:07:47.91,0:07:51.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the cause of forbiddance, permissibility\Nor their recommendation.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:51.56,0:07:55.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is the aspect to which I am \Nrepeatedly drawing attention to.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:55.42,0:07:58.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,i.e. it becomes the reason\Nfor Prohibition when these instruments
Dialogue: 0,0:07:58.83,0:08:03.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or a good voice is used for the \Npropagation of some evil.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:03.80,0:08:07.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Like for the propagation of Shirk,\Nlike for the propagation of Bid'aat.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:07.21,0:08:09.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Like for the propagation \Nof Fawahish (Vulgarity).
Dialogue: 0,0:08:09.56,0:08:13.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When we will use it for wrong ends then \Nthe forbiddance will be there too.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:13.20,0:08:16.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The warning would also be made.\NAttention would also be drawn.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:16.30,0:08:18.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There would be a harsh\Ncomment made as well.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:18.36,0:08:20.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And a personality like\NSyedna Siddique or
Dialogue: 0,0:08:20.36,0:08:24.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Syedna Umar would also \Nuse such words for it.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:24.15,0:08:26.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That should be understood \Nin this background as well.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:26.70,0:08:31.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The Prophet (pbuh) \Nhas taught to differentiate
Dialogue: 0,0:08:31.03,0:08:36.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,between their good and evil use,\Nafter that, it is obvious that
Dialogue: 0,0:08:36.92,0:08:40.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Syedna Abu Bakr would not have \Nfurther held on to this opinion.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:40.14,0:08:42.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,i.e. it can't happen\Nthat even after this event,
Dialogue: 0,0:08:42.79,0:08:45.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Syedna Siddique would have\Nremained firm on that opinion of his.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:45.88,0:08:48.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That under all conditions \Nthese are Satanic instruments.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:48.78,0:08:51.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,A statement was made by him.\NThe Prophet (pbuh) drew attention
Dialogue: 0,0:08:51.72,0:08:55.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,towards the other aspect,\Nin his presence, this attention was drawn.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:55.00,0:08:58.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Daf was being played too.\NThe song was being sung too.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:58.31,0:09:01.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And who was playing\NDaf and singing songs?
Dialogue: 0,0:09:01.37,0:09:02.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The girls were doing it.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:02.95,0:09:08.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now, just try to look at these concepts \Nin the religious backdrop of ours.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:08.28,0:09:12.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Each one among these has been\Napproved by the Prophet (pbuh).
Dialogue: 0,0:09:12.06,0:09:15.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And it was appreciated \Nthat it was the day of Eid,
Dialogue: 0,0:09:15.71,0:09:17.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if such activities are done \Non the day of Eid,
Dialogue: 0,0:09:17.94,0:09:19.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then in accordance with the \Noccasion and context
Dialogue: 0,0:09:19.82,0:09:21.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,these are quite suitable activities.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:21.64,0:09:24.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Hassan] Right. A few minor questions \Nrelated to this Narration come to mind,
Dialogue: 0,0:09:24.49,0:09:27.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I wish to present them to you.\NPlease tell me about this first thing,
Dialogue: 0,0:09:27.69,0:09:29.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of all the Narrations that have come\Nunder discussion,
Dialogue: 0,0:09:29.47,0:09:32.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,among them, the singers \Nare the slave-girls,
Dialogue: 0,0:09:32.50,0:09:36.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so I would wish to ask you\Nthat this activity in that culture
Dialogue: 0,0:09:36.91,0:09:40.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was not considered a \Nrespectable profession that the elite
Dialogue: 0,0:09:40.80,0:09:45.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the nobles would adopt as a career\Nwhich we see in the present times
Dialogue: 0,0:09:45.11,0:09:48.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which we term as the artistic mindset,\Nand it commands a lot of respect.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:48.86,0:09:52.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Was this activity of singing and playing\Nof music confined just to the slave-girls
Dialogue: 0,0:09:52.07,0:09:55.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or that class that was not so\Nmuch respected in society?
Dialogue: 0,0:09:55.16,0:09:57.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Javed Ahmed Ghamidi] The point is that \Nthese too were human beings.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:57.57,0:09:59.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If they were slave-girls,\Nthey were women as well.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:59.40,0:10:01.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If they were slaves, \Nthey constituted men only.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:01.83,0:10:06.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,However, these were the people\Nwho had to provide service.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:06.42,0:10:09.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,These were the ones to work in fields, \Nguide the caravans.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:09.27,0:10:11.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In the same way,\Nfor the means of entertainment,
Dialogue: 0,0:10:11.61,0:10:14.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a certain type of training \Nand perseverance is required.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:14.40,0:10:17.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So they were the ones to \Nprovide such services.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:17.53,0:10:20.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Other than these there is a mention\Nof certain other things.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:20.54,0:10:24.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,i.e. when we read the history, \Nor poetry or literature of Arab,
Dialogue: 0,0:10:24.88,0:10:28.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then many other people too, \Nincluding the womenfolk
Dialogue: 0,0:10:28.14,0:10:31.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of respected families are \Nseen to have shown keenness for it.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:31.37,0:10:35.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,However, it is mostly seen that these\Nslave-girls used to sing and play music.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:35.24,0:10:39.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They were the ones to enliven the parties.\NAnd when they would come to homes,
Dialogue: 0,0:10:39.46,0:10:45.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they generally liked to play \Nthe Daf or Sing some songs.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:45.67,0:10:49.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And since their songs were the result \Nof their practice and perseverence,
Dialogue: 0,0:10:49.74,0:10:52.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they knew the art of playing\Nthe music and singing,
Dialogue: 0,0:10:52.33,0:10:55.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so the people liked their performances. \NThese are all the aspects.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:55.84,0:10:59.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Hassan] One more aspect, \NGhamidi Sahab, which I am bringing forth
Dialogue: 0,0:10:59.08,0:11:01.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is that generally, when such \NNarrations are presented,
Dialogue: 0,0:11:01.90,0:11:06.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then it is said, in that era \Nwhen they used to sing and play,
Dialogue: 0,0:11:06.94,0:11:10.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the people had great virtues, \NGodliness, sincerity, humility,
Dialogue: 0,0:11:10.71,0:11:13.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and fear of God was so much \Nthat in spite of all this,
Dialogue: 0,0:11:13.10,0:11:15.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,their heart wasn't inclined towards it.\NIn today's age
Dialogue: 0,0:11:15.58,0:11:17.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when we see the deplorable condition\Nof Iman of people,
Dialogue: 0,0:11:17.89,0:11:19.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then we would stop people \Non the principle of
Dialogue: 0,0:11:19.90,0:11:21.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,'Saddan li-zariya', \Nso that we do not get at all
Dialogue: 0,0:11:21.92,0:11:23.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,inclined to hear the voice of a girl.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:23.63,0:11:25.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Once we hear the voice\Nwe shall get mesmerized by her,
Dialogue: 0,0:11:25.32,0:11:27.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and which will finally\Nlead to wrong temptations.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:27.11,0:11:29.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Therefore it was okay for that period, \Ntheir Iman was of such level,
Dialogue: 0,0:11:29.64,0:11:31.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In the present age, \Nwe have to bar it
Dialogue: 0,0:11:31.29,0:11:33.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on the principle of Sadd-e Zariya\N(things which lead to Evil).
Dialogue: 0,0:11:33.13,0:11:34.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Javed Ahmed Ghamidi] \NThere are two points of it.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:34.96,0:11:37.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The first point is that those people\Nwho are quite superior
Dialogue: 0,0:11:37.83,0:11:41.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with regard to 'Taqwa' or for those
Dialogue: 0,0:11:41.47,0:11:45.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who do not possibly fear this, they \Nshould then listen with more fervor!
Dialogue: 0,0:11:45.52,0:11:49.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Both things should happen.\NSince the Prophet (pbuh) has heard it.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:49.16,0:11:52.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So that should surely be followed?!\NThe second point is that
Dialogue: 0,0:11:52.04,0:11:55.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the principle of Sadd-e Zariya \N(stopping from that which leads to Evil)
Dialogue: 0,0:11:55.28,0:11:58.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,does not follow the mechanism that \Nsomething, in essence, is not forbidden,
Dialogue: 0,0:11:58.42,0:12:00.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and we declare it as forbidden.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:00.34,0:12:02.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Here the attention is drawn \Nin the same manner that
Dialogue: 0,0:12:02.89,0:12:05.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this particular thing is \Ncompletely permissible,
Dialogue: 0,0:12:05.82,0:12:10.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,however, if you indulge too much in it,\Nit may result in the following evils.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:10.58,0:12:12.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Hassan] Right.\N[Ghamidi] This we tell our children,
Dialogue: 0,0:12:12.99,0:12:15.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,those are common things of play, there\Nmay not be any debate about them.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:15.84,0:12:18.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If we spend more time in it, \Nthe studies would be affected.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:18.70,0:12:21.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You won't be able to \Ndedicate yourself to work.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:21.05,0:12:23.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There are so many\Nof our pastimes regarding which
Dialogue: 0,0:12:23.68,0:12:25.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we keep giving such warnings.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:25.23,0:12:28.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,However, we never say that\Nin essence, these are Prohibited.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:28.09,0:12:32.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Aren't you aware that generally when\Nkids are getting their schooling,
Dialogue: 0,0:12:32.17,0:12:35.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then if we see them reading even \Na novel, or reading a common book,
Dialogue: 0,0:12:35.52,0:12:39.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then we draw their attention to focus \Non books prescribed in the syllabus,
Dialogue: 0,0:12:39.11,0:12:41.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,read those books. \NHence for each activity,
Dialogue: 0,0:12:41.32,0:12:43.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there is an appropriate\Ntime and context,
Dialogue: 0,0:12:43.27,0:12:46.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which are taken into \Nconsideration while doing it.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:46.54,0:12:50.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Then again, if we stop people\Nfrom it, will they stop?
Dialogue: 0,0:12:50.58,0:12:53.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,i.e. if you keep persuading them\Nto the right attitude and nature
Dialogue: 0,0:12:53.69,0:12:57.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then they will be trained in the right\Nmanner. If you tell them that
Dialogue: 0,0:12:57.06,0:12:59.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you will have to take care \Nof the following drawbacks
Dialogue: 0,0:12:59.70,0:13:01.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then they would keep \Nthose points in memory.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:01.94,0:13:06.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They will thus control themselves.\NSo I am against the idea that for
Dialogue: 0,0:13:06.28,0:13:11.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Sadd-e Zariya, if we adopt such \Nstrictness then society would be reformed.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:11.46,0:13:16.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Let us move further on, were all the \NSahaba (Companions) of the same level?
Dialogue: 0,0:13:16.38,0:13:18.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,i.e. they comprised the \NBaddu (Bedouins) as well.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:18.77,0:13:20.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They would come from \Nthe adjoining areas too.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:20.97,0:13:24.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Did the Prophet made any such \Nannouncement for them and said
Dialogue: 0,0:13:24.53,0:13:29.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that in my gathering, it's okay\Nfor these people not to treat
Dialogue: 0,0:13:29.64,0:13:34.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,these things on the principle\Nof Sadd-e Zariya, however,
Dialogue: 0,0:13:34.01,0:13:35.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you people should \Nremain aloof from it
Dialogue: 0,0:13:35.83,0:13:38.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as you people do not possess\Nthat 'Taqwa', and Godliness.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:38.64,0:13:41.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,i.e. Iman has not yet \Nentered their hearts,
Dialogue: 0,0:13:41.22,0:13:43.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,i.e. there is a group that has \Naccepted Iman,
Dialogue: 0,0:13:43.54,0:13:45.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and these comments of the \NQuran pertain to them.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:45.85,0:13:47.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You people should be careful about it.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:47.80,0:13:50.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This wasn't the methodology\Nadopted by the Prophet (pbuh).
Dialogue: 0,0:13:50.72,0:13:53.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I would humbly submit \Nthat our Ulema too
Dialogue: 0,0:13:53.59,0:13:55.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,should rectify themselves in this matter.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:55.67,0:13:58.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Hassan] Right.\N[Ghamidi] The methodologies and attitudes
Dialogue: 0,0:13:58.46,0:14:02.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,adopted by the Prophet (pbuh),\Nare the exemplary attitudes for us.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:02.97,0:14:05.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Those only should always\Nbe kept in consideration.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:05.43,0:14:08.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Exceeding those, whatever we will do, \Nwill in one way or the other
Dialogue: 0,0:14:08.71,0:14:11.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,lead to some problems.\NHence we should have the right stand.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:11.98,0:14:17.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,All Fine Arts relate to beauty, that \Nall Fine Arts are completely Permissible.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:17.41,0:14:19.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Nothing in them,\Nin essence, is Prohibited.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:19.79,0:14:22.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It is their use, \Nor their overuse,
Dialogue: 0,0:14:22.33,0:14:25.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where at times some negative \Ncomments are to be made.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:25.22,0:14:27.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Hassan] Right, Ghamidi Sahab, let us\Ntake the discussion along.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:27.98,0:14:30.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This aspect became clear\Nwith reference to the Narration.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:30.30,0:14:31.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I would like you to go ahead \Nwith the next Narration
Dialogue: 0,0:14:31.70,0:14:33.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and tell us as to \Nwhat is discussed there?
Dialogue: 0,0:14:33.41,0:14:36.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Ghamidi] The next Narration which\NI am about to read,
Dialogue: 0,0:14:36.50,0:14:40.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I have taken its text from \NNasai's As Sunan ul Kubra,
Dialogue: 0,0:14:40.42,0:14:44.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,its number is 5539.\N[Hassan] Right.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:44.39,0:14:48.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Ghamidi] I am readings its translation. \NAamir Bin Saad Bajli narrates,
Dialogue: 0,0:14:48.57,0:14:53.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,'He says that in one marriage ceremony, I \Nsat near Karza Bin Kaab, Abu Masud Ansari
Dialogue: 0,0:14:53.33,0:15:01.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and Sabit Bin Zaid, when I saw some\Ngirls were playing the Daf and singing.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:01.36,0:15:05.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I said, "Subhanallah, you all \Nare the Companions of the Prophet (pbuh),
Dialogue: 0,0:15:05.74,0:15:07.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,rather the participants \Nof the Battle of Badr,
Dialogue: 0,0:15:07.98,0:15:10.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and all this is happening \Nright under your nose".
Dialogue: 0,0:15:10.46,0:15:12.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Hassan] Okay.\N[Ghamidi] You see,
Dialogue: 0,0:15:12.35,0:15:14.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the religious mentality\Nof today's age,
Dialogue: 0,0:15:14.59,0:15:19.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like in the case of Sadd-e Zariya,\Nit becomes excessively strict,
Dialogue: 0,0:15:19.85,0:15:24.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or indulgence in these things \Nare considered against the religion.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:24.75,0:15:27.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Such people existed even in those times.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:27.28,0:15:31.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Aamir Bin Saad Bajli narrates,\N'he says that in one marriage ceremony
Dialogue: 0,0:15:31.29,0:15:36.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I sat near Karza Bin Kaab, \NAbu Masud Ansari and Sabit Bin Zaid,
Dialogue: 0,0:15:36.76,0:15:40.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when I saw, and who are these people \Nhe himself has told ahead,
Dialogue: 0,0:15:40.17,0:15:43.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that some girls were playing\Nthe Daf and singing,
Dialogue: 0,0:15:43.51,0:15:45.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"I said, Subhanallah,
Dialogue: 0,0:15:45.10,0:15:49.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you all are the Companions \Nof the Prophet (pbuh)
Dialogue: 0,0:15:49.56,0:15:51.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,rather the participants\Nof the Battle of Badr".
Dialogue: 0,0:15:51.86,0:15:54.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"And all this is taking place\Nright under your nose!"
Dialogue: 0,0:15:54.41,0:15:56.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Karza and Abu Masud\Nstarted saying,
Dialogue: 0,0:15:56.68,0:15:59.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if you wish to, then you may\Nlisten to this with us,
Dialogue: 0,0:15:59.97,0:16:02.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and if you do not \Nwish to you may leave.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:02.02,0:16:04.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,For the reason, we have been\Ngiven permission
Dialogue: 0,0:16:04.30,0:16:06.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for singing and playing of music\Nduring marriages
Dialogue: 0,0:16:06.85,0:16:10.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and crying on the dead. if the 'Nauha' \N(Wailing) is not done in it.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:10.07,0:16:12.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Hassan] Subhanallah.\N[Ghamidi] Therefore, he told him
Dialogue: 0,0:16:12.54,0:16:16.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,leave aside the rest of the time, \Nthere can be a debate on it,
Dialogue: 0,0:16:16.14,0:16:19.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,however, on occasions of marriages,\Nwe have seen that
Dialogue: 0,0:16:19.09,0:16:23.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the Prophet has advised for it.\NIn the same way, if some one has died,
Dialogue: 0,0:16:23.11,0:16:26.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,has departed the world, then\Nthe expressions of human emotions
Dialogue: 0,0:16:26.16,0:16:30.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,happens in the form of crying. \NSo he warned that
Dialogue: 0,0:16:30.57,0:16:33.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the Prophet (pbuh) has stopped us\Nfrom doing wailing,
Dialogue: 0,0:16:33.51,0:16:36.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,however, he hasn't stopped crying.\NSimilarly,
Dialogue: 0,0:16:36.12,0:16:39.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if these activities become rampant,\Nor their misuse takes place,
Dialogue: 0,0:16:39.50,0:16:42.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,people start going daily \Nto the gatherings of slave-girls,
Dialogue: 0,0:16:42.40,0:16:46.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or to the night parties, then there is a\Nscope for barring them from this.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:46.68,0:16:49.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It is the occasion of marriage, \Nand you say such things.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:49.64,0:16:52.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"If you do not feel like listening to it, \Nthen go and do your work",
Dialogue: 0,0:16:52.90,0:16:55.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"we have the permission\Nof the Prophet (pbuh) for it".
Dialogue: 0,0:16:55.72,0:16:57.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This was said by them.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:57.29,0:17:02.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The words 'like the companions of the\NProphet, the participants of Badr',
Dialogue: 0,0:17:02.72,0:17:05.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and all this is taking\Nplace in front of them.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:05.02,0:17:06.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,On this, I have written,
Dialogue: 0,0:17:06.56,0:17:10.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,'Why would this question arise \Nwith regard to Singing and Music?'
Dialogue: 0,0:17:10.12,0:17:14.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,i.e. what is the reason that even\NSyedna Siddique too said this?
Dialogue: 0,0:17:14.27,0:17:17.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The slave- girl adopted this attitude \Non seeing Syedna Umar
Dialogue: 0,0:17:17.83,0:17:20.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in front of the Prophet (pbuh)?\NWhich we have read earlier.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:20.78,0:17:24.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Why this question would arise \Nwith regard to Singing and Music?
Dialogue: 0,0:17:24.09,0:17:28.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We have elaborated earlier \Nthat just like in our age,
Dialogue: 0,0:17:28.03,0:17:33.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,its use in that era too, now \Nnote here, what was it?
Dialogue: 0,0:17:33.20,0:17:36.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Its use, similar to our age\Nits use in that era too
Dialogue: 0,0:17:36.62,0:17:39.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was mostly for the\Npropagation of polytheistic concepts
Dialogue: 0,0:17:39.52,0:17:42.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and for the propagation\Nof Fawahish (Vulgarity).
Dialogue: 0,0:17:42.90,0:17:47.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We have commented \Nearlier that if we look into our own time,
Dialogue: 0,0:17:47.22,0:17:52.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this wrong use can be \Nexperienced in multiple places.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:52.22,0:17:56.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The issues relating to its indulgence,\Nthat we see every day as well.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:56.49,0:18:00.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We experience them,\Nlike the way, in the present times,
Dialogue: 0,0:18:00.23,0:18:03.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we often have to emphatically\Nand strictly draw attention
Dialogue: 0,0:18:03.11,0:18:07.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in those times too, due to\Nits misuse, or overuse,
Dialogue: 0,0:18:07.88,0:18:10.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,such comments would\Ncome forth by the people.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:10.09,0:18:13.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Why this question would arise \Nwith regard to Singing and Music?
Dialogue: 0,0:18:13.13,0:18:16.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We have elaborated it earlier, \Nthat like in our times,
Dialogue: 0,0:18:16.55,0:18:20.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in those times too, its use was mostly for\Nthe propagation of polytheistic concepts
Dialogue: 0,0:18:20.72,0:18:23.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and for the propagation\Nof Fawahish (Vulgarity).
Dialogue: 0,0:18:23.37,0:18:25.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The word 'Rukhsat' (Leave)\Nin the Narrations
Dialogue: 0,0:18:25.73,0:18:27.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,have been spoken \Nwith this consideration.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:27.81,0:18:31.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Since this was its general use, then is it\Nthe case that we will not use it at all?
Dialogue: 0,0:18:31.100,0:18:34.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So the word 'Rukhsat' \Ngiven implies that
Dialogue: 0,0:18:34.34,0:18:38.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if the content is good,\Nif there isn't any defect in the song,
Dialogue: 0,0:18:38.42,0:18:40.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if the occasion is such,
Dialogue: 0,0:18:40.78,0:18:45.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if such overuse isn't there \Nthat even the Salah or Sawm is hampered,
Dialogue: 0,0:18:45.76,0:18:49.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the religious life is completely \Nruined then there isn't any harm in it.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:49.77,0:18:54.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In every language, we can find \Nexamples for such use of words.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:54.69,0:18:58.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The condition of 'Marriages' \Nin this sentence is to convey
Dialogue: 0,0:18:58.78,0:19:03.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that in general, the business of \Nour lives, i.e. he has replied to him,
Dialogue: 0,0:19:03.42,0:19:06.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,i.e. the word 'Marriages' is used.
Dialogue: 0,0:19:06.31,0:19:09.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In normal circumstances, our having \Nbeen busy could, in some aspect,
Dialogue: 0,0:19:09.62,0:19:12.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,have been objectionable, however,\Non this occasion of happiness,
Dialogue: 0,0:19:12.85,0:19:14.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,its possibility is also not there.
Dialogue: 0,0:19:14.48,0:19:18.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,For the reason that the\NProphet (pbuh) himself on this occasion
Dialogue: 0,0:19:18.08,0:19:20.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and for the same reason \Nhas permitted it.
Dialogue: 0,0:19:20.22,0:19:22.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Therefore he has stated\Nthe complete point.
Dialogue: 0,0:19:22.28,0:19:25.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That this, in essence, \Nis not something prohibited.
Dialogue: 0,0:19:25.01,0:19:27.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Its use can definitely be\Nfor the wrong purposes.
Dialogue: 0,0:19:27.85,0:19:31.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If you have any worry, \Nyou may not sit here and may leave.
Dialogue: 0,0:19:31.64,0:19:34.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If we had been busy in Normal\Ncircumstances in this activity,
Dialogue: 0,0:19:34.57,0:19:37.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and you had felt that while\Nshirking some religious responsibility
Dialogue: 0,0:19:37.80,0:19:40.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or exceeding our limits\Nthis activity is being done,
Dialogue: 0,0:19:40.28,0:19:42.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then you could \Nhave very well said this.
Dialogue: 0,0:19:42.79,0:19:45.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In times of marriages, \Nthe Prophet has clearly allowed it.
Dialogue: 0,0:19:45.55,0:19:47.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So what is the reason\Nfor objecting to it?
Dialogue: 0,0:19:47.59,0:19:49.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If you wish to sit you are welcome
Dialogue: 0,0:19:49.25,0:19:51.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,otherwise, you are free\Nto leave the place.
Dialogue: 0,0:19:51.07,0:19:53.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If you understand the proper \Ncontext of this sentence,
Dialogue: 0,0:19:53.44,0:19:56.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then it has been spoken in this meaning.\N[Hassan] Right.
Dialogue: 0,0:19:56.11,0:20:00.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Ghamidi] This leave or rather advise \Nfor such occasions by the Prophet (pbuh) ,
Dialogue: 0,0:20:00.19,0:20:02.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,have been discussed earlier.
Dialogue: 0,0:20:02.04,0:20:05.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,i.e. the reference which he has given,\Nwe have had read those Narrations.
Dialogue: 0,0:20:05.64,0:20:08.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Hassan] Right. Okay. Ghamidi Sahab\Nthe Narration which you read just now,
Dialogue: 0,0:20:08.77,0:20:10.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the point which you\Nstated in the note,
Dialogue: 0,0:20:10.65,0:20:13.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that the Sahaba are speaking\Nthis from the aspect that
Dialogue: 0,0:20:13.45,0:20:16.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in normal circumstances \Nthis could be worth condemning,
Dialogue: 0,0:20:16.56,0:20:19.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so why under normal conditions \Nshould this be condemned?
Dialogue: 0,0:20:19.66,0:20:22.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,i.e. the Sahaba have a special position,
Dialogue: 0,0:20:22.02,0:20:25.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they have become a part of\Nthe mission of Prophethood.
Dialogue: 0,0:20:25.11,0:20:26.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So in which aspect have\Nyou written this point of
Dialogue: 0,0:20:26.96,0:20:28.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,'Normal circumstance' \Nwhich could be worth condemning?
Dialogue: 0,0:20:28.86,0:20:30.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Ghamidi] You see, a final narration would\Nalso come up soon,
Dialogue: 0,0:20:30.100,0:20:33.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with that, you will have an idea \Nof the wrong uses of it
Dialogue: 0,0:20:33.75,0:20:35.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that were prevalent\Namong the Arabs.
Dialogue: 0,0:20:35.82,0:20:38.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The Prophet (pbuh) himself \Nhas commented on its wrong use
Dialogue: 0,0:20:38.84,0:20:41.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and said that this was \Na very shameful act.
Dialogue: 0,0:20:41.24,0:20:45.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Generally, such gatherings would be there.\NBefore this too,
Dialogue: 0,0:20:45.11,0:20:49.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you have heard that one\Ngathering had been arranged in Madinah
Dialogue: 0,0:20:49.40,0:20:54.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where Syedna Hamza had slashed \Nthe humps of the she-camels of Ali R.A.
Dialogue: 0,0:20:54.93,0:20:58.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We have heard all this. Obviously, \Nthis point is made with this backdrop.
Dialogue: 0,0:20:58.79,0:21:00.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Obviously, such gatherings\Nhappen everywhere.
Dialogue: 0,0:21:00.92,0:21:04.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So the point of contention is that if\Nwe are present in any such gathering
Dialogue: 0,0:21:04.00,0:21:06.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where from the look of it \Nwe get a feeling that
Dialogue: 0,0:21:06.30,0:21:08.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this isn't the right place \Nfor respectable people.
Dialogue: 0,0:21:08.78,0:21:12.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Or it is not such a place \Nfor people to frequent
Dialogue: 0,0:21:12.01,0:21:16.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,whom the Prophet (pbuh) has trained, \Nmost of their time should pass
Dialogue: 0,0:21:16.22,0:21:19.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the remembrance\Nand love of Allah.
Dialogue: 0,0:21:19.07,0:21:21.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So who are these people, \Nwhat is the context?
Dialogue: 0,0:21:21.99,0:21:25.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What city is it?\NWhat sort of gatherings are usual here?
Dialogue: 0,0:21:25.10,0:21:28.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And if there is an over\Nindulgence in them,
Dialogue: 0,0:21:28.29,0:21:31.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then obviously there would have been \Na reason to make a comment,
Dialogue: 0,0:21:31.41,0:21:35.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but this is an occasion of marriage, \Nwhy would you have any objection to it?
Dialogue: 0,0:21:35.90,0:21:38.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Hassan] Please clarify another\Naspect Ghamidi Sahab,
Dialogue: 0,0:21:38.55,0:21:41.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the conversation that is taking \Nplace between two Sahaba,
Dialogue: 0,0:21:41.45,0:21:47.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it is on the topic of Deen, and \Nif we apply it in the light of the Quran,
Dialogue: 0,0:21:47.15,0:21:49.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then that activity might\Nhave been Prohibited
Dialogue: 0,0:21:49.41,0:21:51.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and might as well\Nhave been stopped,
Dialogue: 0,0:21:51.28,0:21:53.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then this difference in the\Nunderstanding
Dialogue: 0,0:21:53.28,0:21:55.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and application of the \Nreligion between two Sahaba,
Dialogue: 0,0:21:55.73,0:21:58.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with reference to it too,\Nplease tell me what comes to light,
Dialogue: 0,0:21:58.09,0:22:01.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as it is generally said that if the \Nopinion of so and so Sahabi has come,
Dialogue: 0,0:22:01.66,0:22:03.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then it is the only \Ninterpretation of Deen,
Dialogue: 0,0:22:03.92,0:22:06.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it is the most verified and\Njustified point of view,
Dialogue: 0,0:22:06.66,0:22:08.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there isn't anything further to say, \Nso we see that
Dialogue: 0,0:22:08.73,0:22:11.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for such an important issue, \Nand they are differing themselves.
Dialogue: 0,0:22:11.27,0:22:13.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Ghamidi] I am repeatedly focussing\Non the point that
Dialogue: 0,0:22:13.94,0:22:16.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this is not the right way\Nto understand Deen.
Dialogue: 0,0:22:16.52,0:22:20.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When you hear the opinion of a \NSahabi, or you listen to a Narration,
Dialogue: 0,0:22:20.19,0:22:23.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or if you come across some \Ncomment of the Prophet (pbuh)
Dialogue: 0,0:22:23.18,0:22:26.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on a certain situation, and \Ndeduced the complete Deen from it.
Dialogue: 0,0:22:26.50,0:22:28.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if you wish to form an opinion\Nregarding Deen,
Dialogue: 0,0:22:28.67,0:22:31.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then all these lengthy discussions\Nare for the purpose that
Dialogue: 0,0:22:31.42,0:22:33.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we should adopt\Nthe correct way.
Dialogue: 0,0:22:33.33,0:22:35.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,First of all, we should refer\Nto the Book of Allah
Dialogue: 0,0:22:35.72,0:22:39.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and check if this matter \Nhas been discussed in the Book of Allah?
Dialogue: 0,0:22:39.97,0:22:43.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,How has it been stated there?\NIf it relates to Prohibitions then
Dialogue: 0,0:22:43.55,0:22:46.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,ascertain the principles \Nestablished with regard to 'Prohibitions.
Dialogue: 0,0:22:46.98,0:22:50.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I have stated those \Nthings in great detail earlier.
Dialogue: 0,0:22:50.04,0:22:53.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Similarly, if something has\Nbeen issued as a Sunnah,
Dialogue: 0,0:22:53.03,0:22:56.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then first ascertain it,\Nas to what it actually is?
Dialogue: 0,0:22:56.10,0:22:59.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What is its backdrop?\NIn what place does the Quran hold it?
Dialogue: 0,0:22:59.58,0:23:01.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If it is not mentioned in the Quran,
Dialogue: 0,0:23:01.99,0:23:06.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then how the Prophet (pbuh)\Nhas promulgated it among the Muslims?
Dialogue: 0,0:23:06.27,0:23:08.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And how has it become a\Npart of their practice?
Dialogue: 0,0:23:08.73,0:23:12.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,After learning all these things \Nwe may refer to the Narrations.
Dialogue: 0,0:23:12.19,0:23:15.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When we refer to the Narrations too, \Nthen look at not just a single Narration
Dialogue: 0,0:23:15.98,0:23:18.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or point, rather, by looking into \Nthe general conduct.
Dialogue: 0,0:23:18.63,0:23:22.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The difference that you are seeing here, \Nneither is it the difference of Deen,
Dialogue: 0,0:23:22.50,0:23:24.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,nor the difference in\Nthe understanding of Deen.
Dialogue: 0,0:23:24.81,0:23:28.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It is a difference of temperament.\NI have said earlier too,
Dialogue: 0,0:23:28.32,0:23:32.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that this trait is also found in\Nthe personality of Syedna Umar R.A.
Dialogue: 0,0:23:32.36,0:23:35.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,i.e. among some people there is\Ngreater caution for such matters.
Dialogue: 0,0:23:35.73,0:23:38.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They don't even like to go\Nnear means of entertainment.
Dialogue: 0,0:23:38.64,0:23:42.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This difference of temperament\Nshould also be viewed with praise.
Dialogue: 0,0:23:42.36,0:23:45.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It should be preserved. \Nand what does it entail?
Dialogue: 0,0:23:45.14,0:23:51.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It entails that if I have a tendency to\Ngo a little astray from the right path,
Dialogue: 0,0:23:51.24,0:23:54.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then some other elder would be there\Nto draw attention towards it.
Dialogue: 0,0:23:54.51,0:23:57.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And in this way, that balance \Nwould remain
Dialogue: 0,0:23:57.08,0:23:58.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which is the beauty \Ncharacteristic of our Deen
Dialogue: 0,0:23:58.68,0:24:00.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for the reason that this Deen is \Nthe Deen of Fitrah (Human Nature).
Dialogue: 0,0:24:00.79,0:24:02.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Hassan] Right. Ghamidi Sahab, \Nthe last aspect which came forth
Dialogue: 0,0:24:02.43,0:24:04.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of this Narration, I wish that you\Nbriefly comment on it as well.
Dialogue: 0,0:24:04.53,0:24:07.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It is that if one point of view \Nis held as supreme for a Sahabi,
Dialogue: 0,0:24:07.88,0:24:10.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the Sahaba should not attend\Nsuch gatherings
Dialogue: 0,0:24:10.40,0:24:12.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,even on the occasion of marriages, \Nhowever,
Dialogue: 0,0:24:12.91,0:24:15.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the life and attitude of \Nother Sahaba is that
Dialogue: 0,0:24:15.37,0:24:18.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if you hold it as a problem, then you\Nbetter leave this place,
Dialogue: 0,0:24:18.50,0:24:22.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if we hold it as being permissible,\Nthen we should have the space,
Dialogue: 0,0:24:22.03,0:24:24.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,let us carry it on. \NWe see that generally among us,
Dialogue: 0,0:24:24.86,0:24:28.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this imbalance is also noticed \Nthat if I hold it as a vice,
Dialogue: 0,0:24:28.46,0:24:30.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then I wish to impose\Nthe same on others.
Dialogue: 0,0:24:30.99,0:24:33.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,However, the Sahaba here \Nteach us that if you hold it such
Dialogue: 0,0:24:33.02,0:24:34.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you may leave, while we do not \Nthink it so we can carry it on.
Dialogue: 0,0:24:34.62,0:24:36.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Ghamidi] This is the right attitude.
Dialogue: 0,0:24:36.39,0:24:39.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Every person looks at things from his/her\Nown perspective.
Dialogue: 0,0:24:39.55,0:24:43.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There may be disagreement on \Nknowledge, understanding, application,
Dialogue: 0,0:24:43.09,0:24:45.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and as I have said, there may \Nbe a difference of temperament.
Dialogue: 0,0:24:45.97,0:24:48.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We should take care of it.\NIn such instances,
Dialogue: 0,0:24:48.27,0:24:51.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we should not go about issuing \NFatwas as per our whims.
Dialogue: 0,0:24:51.15,0:24:53.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Our worst misfortune is that,\Nas a nation, once
Dialogue: 0,0:24:53.100,0:24:58.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we make an opinion about \Nsomething then we are not ready
Dialogue: 0,0:24:58.03,0:25:00.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to listen to another opinion \Neven in its context.
Dialogue: 0,0:25:00.97,0:25:04.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is the reason that the judgments \Nare decreed among us in black and white.
Dialogue: 0,0:25:04.82,0:25:09.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,However, there are many situations\Nin life that you place under grey areas.
Dialogue: 0,0:25:09.77,0:25:14.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,i.e. those are the situations \Nwhere one tendency holds a position
Dialogue: 0,0:25:14.29,0:25:16.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,while another tendency \Ntoo holds its own position.
Dialogue: 0,0:25:16.50,0:25:19.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There may be one opinion, and \Nthere can be another opinion as well.
Dialogue: 0,0:25:19.57,0:25:22.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Dozens of times it has happened\Nthat a comment is made
Dialogue: 0,0:25:22.35,0:25:26.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about a point so the people say, "Tell us\Nclearly what is right and what is wrong."
Dialogue: 0,0:25:26.31,0:25:30.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,To the extent that at times \Nthe same point is there,
Dialogue: 0,0:25:30.95,0:25:34.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,however, from one angle it is \Nconsidered as right for someone,
Dialogue: 0,0:25:34.01,0:25:38.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and when viewed from some other's angle\Nthen it will be considered as wrong.
Dialogue: 0,0:25:38.04,0:25:41.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,For matters of life too, this opinion\Nhas to be formed.
Dialogue: 0,0:25:41.08,0:25:44.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Hence according to me,\Nthe attitude adopted by the Sahaba
Dialogue: 0,0:25:44.40,0:25:46.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,also holds a lesson for us,
Dialogue: 0,0:25:46.70,0:25:49.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that we should learn to\Nrespect the opinions of others.
Dialogue: 0,0:25:49.84,0:25:53.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We should learn to put\Nour points of view with proper arguments.
Dialogue: 0,0:25:53.54,0:25:56.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,While commenting on something \Nwe should take into consideration
Dialogue: 0,0:25:56.61,0:25:59.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that we have heard something,\Nthe other person has a completely
Dialogue: 0,0:25:59.63,0:26:02.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,different take of the whole issue.\NWe should respect that.
Dialogue: 0,0:26:02.40,0:26:05.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,With it, we will have an increase\Nin scholarly temperament.
Dialogue: 0,0:26:05.07,0:26:07.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,A variegation in the ways\Nof thinking will take place.
Dialogue: 0,0:26:07.72,0:26:10.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There would be a living \Nand dynamic society.
Dialogue: 0,0:26:10.12,0:26:13.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The biggest mistake that we have\Ncommitted at our societal level is
Dialogue: 0,0:26:13.27,0:26:16.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that we haven't let the growth\Nof an environment for healthy criticism.
Dialogue: 0,0:26:16.78,0:26:20.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,i.e. criticism, the criticism where \Nthere isn't mockery or taunting.
Dialogue: 0,0:26:20.03,0:26:24.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Where there isn't any propaganda, where \Nthere is no need to unclothe each other.
Dialogue: 0,0:26:24.45,0:26:27.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Where there is the expression of one's\Nopinions with politeness and decency.
Dialogue: 0,0:26:27.59,0:26:29.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And put forth its \Narguments to the people.
Dialogue: 0,0:26:29.50,0:26:32.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Hassan] This Narration is also clear. \NIt was an important Narration.
Dialogue: 0,0:26:32.25,0:26:35.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Many aspects of it came up. I wish you \Nto continue further with this chain.
Dialogue: 0,0:26:35.79,0:26:38.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now tell us the next Narration \Nand what is being stated there?
Dialogue: 0,0:26:38.27,0:26:40.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Ghamidi] Following this\Nis the Narration
Dialogue: 0,0:26:40.55,0:26:43.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which we have taken from\NMusnad-e Is'haq Bin Ragawaih.
Dialogue: 0,0:26:43.18,0:26:48.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Its number is 624.\NI am reading the translation.
Dialogue: 0,0:26:48.56,0:26:50.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Sayyeda Ayesha R.A. states that
Dialogue: 0,0:26:50.89,0:26:57.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the Prophet (pbuh) heard \NAbu Musa Ash'ari reciting the Quran.
Dialogue: 0,0:26:57.64,0:27:01.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The Quran is the Book of Allah,\Nthe Prophet (pbuh) too used to read it.
Dialogue: 0,0:27:01.100,0:27:04.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The other Sahaba used to read it. \NWe too read it.
Dialogue: 0,0:27:04.100,0:27:09.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The Prophet (pbuh) heard \NAbu Musa Ash'ari reciting the Quran.
Dialogue: 0,0:27:09.24,0:27:15.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He had a sweet melodious voice. And was \Nreciting the Quran sitting in the Masjid.
Dialogue: 0,0:27:15.52,0:27:18.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Hassan] Okay.\N[Ghamidi] When the Prophet (pbuh)
Dialogue: 0,0:27:18.00,0:27:21.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,heard his recitation, he said,\N"There isn't a doubt that this person
Dialogue: 0,0:27:21.30,0:27:23.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,has been bestowed with \Na harmony from among
Dialogue: 0,0:27:23.74,0:27:26.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the harmonies of \Nthe family of Dawood'.
Dialogue: 0,0:27:26.42,0:27:29.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Hassan] Okay.\N[Ghamidi] This was the comment made
Dialogue: 0,0:27:29.03,0:27:31.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on his voice. With this,\Nit is also clear that
Dialogue: 0,0:27:31.31,0:27:34.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there isn't any difference \Nbetween voice and harmony.
Dialogue: 0,0:27:34.04,0:27:36.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Melodies come from the same place as voice
Dialogue: 0,0:27:36.15,0:27:38.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That the people had made a difference
Dialogue: 0,0:27:38.92,0:27:41.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,among us is not valid. \NIt is merely playing with words.
Dialogue: 0,0:27:41.53,0:27:45.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The reality is when the voice\Nemanates from our vocal chords,
Dialogue: 0,0:27:45.84,0:27:51.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or from our tongues or our lips,\Nwhen the voice emanates,
Dialogue: 0,0:27:51.63,0:27:56.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and we beautify it assumes \Nthe form of Singing.
Dialogue: 0,0:27:56.66,0:28:01.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And we enhance the beauty \Nof this voice through melody.
Dialogue: 0,0:28:01.90,0:28:04.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Hence this was the comment\Non the recital of the Quran
Dialogue: 0,0:28:04.53,0:28:07.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of Syedna Abu Musa Ash'ari.
Dialogue: 0,0:28:07.04,0:28:09.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,i.e. as if he has been given a\Nmusical harmony from David.
Dialogue: 0,0:28:09.90,0:28:13.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He does not recite the Quran\Nwith a voice or a sweet voice,
Dialogue: 0,0:28:13.33,0:28:16.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it seems as if one of the chords\Nbestowed to the family of Dawood,
Dialogue: 0,0:28:16.94,0:28:19.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it is spreading forth one of its \Nmelodies.
Dialogue: 0,0:28:19.21,0:28:22.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There is a beautiful commentary\Nand a lot of eloquence in it.
Dialogue: 0,0:28:22.64,0:28:27.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I have written on it, "This is the \Nassertion of the Glory of God,
Dialogue: 0,0:28:27.45,0:28:30.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the supplication \Nand prayers to Him,
Dialogue: 0,0:28:30.06,0:28:34.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,hints towards the heart soothing \Nsongs of Syedna Dawood A.S.
Dialogue: 0,0:28:34.68,0:28:39.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It is known that the Zuboor\N(Psalms of David) are mostly hymns, songs
Dialogue: 0,0:28:39.73,0:28:42.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,i.e. there are themes for the\NGlorification of Allah, Dua,
Dialogue: 0,0:28:42.53,0:28:46.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it has been revealed\Nin the form of Songs.
Dialogue: 0,0:28:46.08,0:28:50.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,For the Glorification of God, in\Nhis supplications and prayers to Him,
Dialogue: 0,0:28:50.15,0:28:54.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,those heart-rendering songs of \NSyedna Dawood A.S. are being hinted at
Dialogue: 0,0:28:54.14,0:28:57.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which he used to sing\Nin the most beautiful voice
Dialogue: 0,0:28:57.43,0:29:01.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,along with musical instruments.\Ni.e. it is known about Dawood A.S.
Dialogue: 0,0:29:01.22,0:29:05.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the Quran has stated it, and \Nnowhere has it been negated,
Dialogue: 0,0:29:05.78,0:29:09.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that the Jews have included\Nthis music among themselves,
Dialogue: 0,0:29:09.68,0:29:12.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,actually, he used to just \Nread them in a sweet voice.
Dialogue: 0,0:29:12.24,0:29:15.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If there is any such thing, \Nand it relates to a Prophet
Dialogue: 0,0:29:15.11,0:29:17.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then the experts of the Quran \Nknow that it some way
Dialogue: 0,0:29:17.83,0:29:21.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or the other points to the fact \Nthat this can't be accepted.
Dialogue: 0,0:29:21.05,0:29:26.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Nothing of this sort was done.\NIt points to those heart-rendering songs
Dialogue: 0,0:29:26.14,0:29:29.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which he i.e. Syedna Dawood A.S.\Nwould sing in the most melodious voice
Dialogue: 0,0:29:29.55,0:29:31.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,along with the \Nmusical instruments.
Dialogue: 0,0:29:31.47,0:29:34.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This has been mentioned \Nin the Quran as well as in the Bible.
Dialogue: 0,0:29:34.51,0:29:38.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The Book with the name of 'Zuboor', \Nwas the collection of these songs.
Dialogue: 0,0:29:38.90,0:29:44.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The Prophet (pbuh) has seen\Nhis voice with appreciation,
Dialogue: 0,0:29:44.20,0:29:48.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,gave reference to the \Nvoice of Syedna Dawood A.S.
Dialogue: 0,0:29:48.05,0:29:51.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the words that he chose for it,\Nthere it was rhetorically indicated
Dialogue: 0,0:29:51.79,0:29:56.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,whether it be the voice or music, \Nthe thing which is important is the topic,
Dialogue: 0,0:29:56.81,0:30:01.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the topic here is the Book of Allah,\Nso the Prophet (pbuh) has praised it.
Dialogue: 0,0:30:01.63,0:30:04.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He applauded his elegant voice,\Nthere isn't something in it
Dialogue: 0,0:30:04.51,0:30:07.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where the Prophet (pbuh)\Nhad said that in this way
Dialogue: 0,0:30:07.48,0:30:11.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you are actually attracting people, \Nread it in simple or plain words.
Dialogue: 0,0:30:11.90,0:30:14.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Hassan] Right. One supplementary \Npoint which comes to mind,
Dialogue: 0,0:30:14.07,0:30:16.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you have said that\Nit is there in the Quran
Dialogue: 0,0:30:16.28,0:30:20.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it is mentioned in the Bible too,\Nthat Syedna Dawood had such instruments,
Dialogue: 0,0:30:20.65,0:30:24.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when he used to recite, so those \Ninstruments were also made use of,
Dialogue: 0,0:30:24.32,0:30:27.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then if there had been a\Ntradition with the Prophets
Dialogue: 0,0:30:27.18,0:30:29.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then in the whole life \Nof the Prophet (pbuh),
Dialogue: 0,0:30:29.38,0:30:33.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,never do we see a single instance\Nwhen he himself had played something.
Dialogue: 0,0:30:33.43,0:30:36.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Therefore if it wasn't matching\Nwith the dignity and grace of the Prophet,
Dialogue: 0,0:30:36.54,0:30:38.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then earlier too this\Nshould have been the case.
Dialogue: 0,0:30:38.27,0:30:39.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And if was there then why it is not\Nseen with the Prophet (pbuh)?
Dialogue: 0,0:30:39.78,0:30:41.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Ghamidi] There isn't any question\Nof respect and dignity
Dialogue: 0,0:30:41.97,0:30:43.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,being associated with the\Nact of playing music.
Dialogue: 0,0:30:43.84,0:30:46.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Whenever a Prophet is made to \Nstand in this world by Allah (swt),
Dialogue: 0,0:30:46.57,0:30:49.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when he is appointed, then He\Nentrusts him with a responsibility,
Dialogue: 0,0:30:49.68,0:30:52.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He, according to the \Nresponsibilities, is given the Book,
Dialogue: 0,0:30:52.70,0:30:57.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Guidance too is provided to them, and his\Npersonality is also molded accordingly.
Dialogue: 0,0:30:57.64,0:31:00.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When we study the personalities \Nof the Prophets,
Dialogue: 0,0:31:00.63,0:31:03.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for example the personality \Nof Syedna Musa A.S.
Dialogue: 0,0:31:03.53,0:31:06.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The personality of Syedna \NDawood is very different.
Dialogue: 0,0:31:06.07,0:31:09.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The personalities of all the Prophets\Nare not from the same molds.
Dialogue: 0,0:31:09.90,0:31:12.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The high moral conduct,
Dialogue: 0,0:31:12.32,0:31:15.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which the Prophet has termed as \NMakarim-e Akhlaaq'.
Dialogue: 0,0:31:15.37,0:31:19.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,All Prophets in their place are \Nglowing examples of that morality.
Dialogue: 0,0:31:19.16,0:31:21.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,However, the nature, \Ndisposition, temperaments
Dialogue: 0,0:31:21.73,0:31:25.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are quite different, rather the Books\Nthat have been revealed by Allah (swt)
Dialogue: 0,0:31:25.40,0:31:27.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,have very different styles.
Dialogue: 0,0:31:27.15,0:31:30.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Hazrat Isa A.S. used\Nto talk in allegories.
Dialogue: 0,0:31:30.34,0:31:33.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You see so many beautiful\Nallegories are there in the Gospels.
Dialogue: 0,0:31:33.24,0:31:34.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Those are found in the Quran too.
Dialogue: 0,0:31:34.82,0:31:37.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,However, the Quran does\Nnot abound with them.
Dialogue: 0,0:31:37.39,0:31:40.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Like the allegories, \Nwe find in the Gospel.
Dialogue: 0,0:31:40.07,0:31:42.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Hence, every Prophet has his \Nown taste, own disposition,
Dialogue: 0,0:31:42.94,0:31:44.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there can't be an \Nargument based upon it.
Dialogue: 0,0:31:44.97,0:31:46.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Hassan] Right, Ghamidi Sahab,\Nlet us move ahead with this chain,
Dialogue: 0,0:31:46.58,0:31:48.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and let us know what\Nis the next Narration?
Dialogue: 0,0:31:48.39,0:31:50.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And what is discussed there?
Dialogue: 0,0:31:50.02,0:31:52.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Ghamidi] The Narration that follows
Dialogue: 0,0:31:52.07,0:31:56.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is from Sahih Ibn-e Habban,\Nits number is 892.
Dialogue: 0,0:31:56.41,0:32:03.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Buraida Aslami R.A. states that he \Nentered a Masjid with the Prophet (pbuh).
Dialogue: 0,0:32:03.58,0:32:07.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He saw that a person while\Nmaking Dua is saying,
Dialogue: 0,0:32:07.39,0:32:12.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,," Ya Allah, I ask you in \Nreturn for my witness that
Dialogue: 0,0:32:12.42,0:32:17.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There isn't any God except You.\NThe Only and the support for all,
Dialogue: 0,0:32:17.50,0:32:20.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Who neither has a\Nfather nor any peer.
Dialogue: 0,0:32:20.95,0:32:25.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When the Prophet heard this he said, \N"I swear by the Being
Dialogue: 0,0:32:25.33,0:32:30.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who holds control of my life,\Nhe has really asked
Dialogue: 0,0:32:30.28,0:32:33.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in return for that great\Nattribute of Allah,
Dialogue: 0,0:32:33.29,0:32:37.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the attribute through which, if asked,\Nthen He bestows
Dialogue: 0,0:32:37.25,0:32:40.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and if called through it,\Nthen He hears it necessarily".
Dialogue: 0,0:32:40.41,0:32:42.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This was the comment\Nmade by the Prophet (pbuh).
Dialogue: 0,0:32:42.86,0:32:44.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Then the Prophet saw a person
Dialogue: 0,0:32:44.31,0:32:47.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sitting in the corner of the\NMasjid and reciting the Quran.
Dialogue: 0,0:32:47.26,0:32:50.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,i.e. first he saw that a \Nperson is making a supplication.
Dialogue: 0,0:32:50.06,0:32:53.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Asking a Dua, there are some \Nwords being uttered by him.
Dialogue: 0,0:32:53.07,0:32:55.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He appreciated those words.
Dialogue: 0,0:32:55.34,0:32:58.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Then he saw a person sitting in \Nthe corner of the Masjid
Dialogue: 0,0:32:58.06,0:33:02.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and reciting the Quran.\NThe Prophet said that there isn't a doubt
Dialogue: 0,0:33:02.93,0:33:05.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that he has been gifted\Nwith the harmony
Dialogue: 0,0:33:05.24,0:33:07.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from among the harmonies\Nof the family of Dawood.
Dialogue: 0,0:33:07.83,0:33:11.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He was Abdullah Bin Qais. i.e. the \Nperson reciting the Quran, who was he?
Dialogue: 0,0:33:11.65,0:33:14.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He was Abdullah Bin Qais, who \Nis called Abu Musa Ash'ari.
Dialogue: 0,0:33:14.67,0:33:18.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It seems probable that the Narration\Nthat we read previously was very brief.
Dialogue: 0,0:33:18.39,0:33:19.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Here we have the details.
Dialogue: 0,0:33:19.78,0:33:22.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Buraida says that\NI asked the Prophet (pbuh),
Dialogue: 0,0:33:22.97,0:33:25.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,O Messenger of Allah should I \Nconvey this comment to him?
Dialogue: 0,0:33:25.85,0:33:30.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The Prophet said, "Yes go ahead".\NHence as I said to Abu Musa,
Dialogue: 0,0:33:30.43,0:33:35.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then he said in elation, that now \Nyou are my friend forever.
Dialogue: 0,0:33:35.30,0:33:37.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Then he said that\Nif I had known that
Dialogue: 0,0:33:37.34,0:33:40.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the Prophet (pbuh)\Nis hearing my recital,
Dialogue: 0,0:33:40.32,0:33:42.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then I would have read it\Nmuch better than that.
Dialogue: 0,0:33:42.75,0:33:45.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Hassan] Subhanallah.\N[Ghamidi] Here you can see
Dialogue: 0,0:33:45.18,0:33:48.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,both the things in the Narrations,\Nif some person has made a Dua,
Dialogue: 0,0:33:48.85,0:33:51.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the words used\Nin the Dua are good,
Dialogue: 0,0:33:51.36,0:33:55.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,proper references have been made,\Nif there is some part of the Quran that
Dialogue: 0,0:33:55.72,0:33:59.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,has been read in it which really has\Na connection with the topic,
Dialogue: 0,0:33:59.82,0:34:02.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then the Prophet (pbuh)\Nhas appreciated that.
Dialogue: 0,0:34:02.28,0:34:05.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Here the Quran is being read,\Nits recitation is being done,
Dialogue: 0,0:34:05.23,0:34:08.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the voice is melodious, it is \Nbeing read with a sweet voice,
Dialogue: 0,0:34:08.24,0:34:11.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the Prophet (pbuh) praises it,\Nand the same words that
Dialogue: 0,0:34:11.92,0:34:14.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,were mentioned earlier,\Nwe see those here too,
Dialogue: 0,0:34:14.10,0:34:15.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and when he was made\Naware of that praise,
Dialogue: 0,0:34:15.92,0:34:18.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he became extremely happy,\Nand he was so filled with ecstasy
Dialogue: 0,0:34:18.39,0:34:19.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that he went on to say that\Nhad he knew
Dialogue: 0,0:34:19.99,0:34:22.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then he would have \Nread more harmoniously.
Dialogue: 0,0:34:22.24,0:34:28.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,With a sweeter tone and melody.\NThe objective for telling this is
Dialogue: 0,0:34:28.93,0:34:34.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that for all such things the \NProphet has adopted this attitude.
Dialogue: 0,0:34:34.58,0:34:36.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now, if some person asks that
Dialogue: 0,0:34:36.22,0:34:39.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,did the Prophet (pbuh) himself ever\Nsit and read it in that way or not?
Dialogue: 0,0:34:39.59,0:34:41.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It is not needed.\NThe Prophet (pbuh)
Dialogue: 0,0:34:41.22,0:34:43.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,himself would read with a \Nlot of excellence, however,
Dialogue: 0,0:34:43.73,0:34:45.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the voice and style,
Dialogue: 0,0:34:45.39,0:34:48.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the sweetness of the recital \Nof Abu Musa Ash'ari,
Dialogue: 0,0:34:48.25,0:34:51.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was highlighted by the Prophet (pbuh)\Nand even appreciated it.
Dialogue: 0,0:34:51.61,0:34:53.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Hassan] Right Ghamidi Sahab.\N[Ghamidi] After this,
Dialogue: 0,0:34:53.61,0:34:56.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the Narration which I am \Npresenting to you is from Sahih Bukhari.
Dialogue: 0,0:34:56.44,0:34:59.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Its number is 7544.\N[Hassan] Right.
Dialogue: 0,0:34:59.82,0:35:05.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Ghamidi] Abu Huraira R.A. states that\Nhe heard the Prophet (pbuh) say,
Dialogue: 0,0:35:05.48,0:35:10.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that any Prophet of Allah, when he reads \Nthe Quran with a sweet and loud voice,
Dialogue: 0,0:35:10.55,0:35:14.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then Allah (swt) listens to it \Nwith an attention
Dialogue: 0,0:35:14.68,0:35:20.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He does not listen to anything else.\NSo what does this Narration tell?
Dialogue: 0,0:35:20.30,0:35:23.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,i.e. if Abu Musa Ash'ari has read \Nthe Quran with a nice voice,
Dialogue: 0,0:35:23.55,0:35:26.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so if you get to listen to it, then\Nyou should applaud it too.
Dialogue: 0,0:35:26.83,0:35:30.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When the Prophet of Allah would listen \Nto it, then he too would appreciate it.
Dialogue: 0,0:35:30.85,0:35:33.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And here it was told that\Nthe Lord of this universe
Dialogue: 0,0:35:33.91,0:35:37.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,listens to it with attention as well.\NThat point which was said at an occasion,
Dialogue: 0,0:35:37.62,0:35:39.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when a person came \Nand said that
Dialogue: 0,0:35:39.60,0:35:44.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I like my shoes and dress \Nbe very beautiful so it was said,
Dialogue: 0,0:35:44.54,0:35:46.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Allahul Jameel Wa Yuhibbul Jamaal".
Dialogue: 0,0:35:46.95,0:35:51.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,'Allah Himself is beautiful \Nand He loves beauty and elegance too'.
Dialogue: 0,0:35:51.57,0:35:54.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Here it was told that \Nmelodious sweet voice,
Dialogue: 0,0:35:54.70,0:36:00.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the voice which mesmerizes, like \Nthe voice of Abu Musa Ash'ari.
Dialogue: 0,0:36:00.43,0:36:04.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Or of any other person, it wasn't \Njust that I liked this voice,
Dialogue: 0,0:36:04.02,0:36:05.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this voice should\Nbe liked by all,
Dialogue: 0,0:36:05.100,0:36:09.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,rather this voice is liked by \Nthe Lord of this Universe.
Dialogue: 0,0:36:09.90,0:36:13.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So it implies that the things of\Nbeauty created by Allah (swt),
Dialogue: 0,0:36:13.14,0:36:16.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are the favourite\Nthings of Allah.
Dialogue: 0,0:36:16.41,0:36:21.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The beauty, elegance rather\Nthe sense of the aesthetics of Allah
Dialogue: 0,0:36:21.57,0:36:26.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are manifested in those\Nthings of beauty.
Dialogue: 0,0:36:26.70,0:36:29.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Hence these things should \Nnever be looked down upon,
Dialogue: 0,0:36:29.30,0:36:32.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it implies that they should \Nnever be considered with scorn.
Dialogue: 0,0:36:32.22,0:36:34.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,i.e. it should not be thought as \Nto what difference does it make?
Dialogue: 0,0:36:34.70,0:36:36.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The Quran is the Book of Allah,\Nwe have to read it.
Dialogue: 0,0:36:36.79,0:36:40.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When we read it we have to \Nactually receive guidance from it.
Dialogue: 0,0:36:40.02,0:36:43.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So what is the point in reading \Nit with a good voice?
Dialogue: 0,0:36:43.40,0:36:47.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So it was told that these are the aspects \Nof beauty, elegance, and adornment.
Dialogue: 0,0:36:47.09,0:36:51.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,These have their own place. And it \Nis liked by me as well as by my Lord.
Dialogue: 0,0:36:51.85,0:36:54.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Hassan] Right.\N[Ghamidi] So with this aspect,
Dialogue: 0,0:36:54.06,0:36:57.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this Narration should be viewed.\NAfter this, we have taken the Narration
Dialogue: 0,0:36:57.61,0:37:02.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from Musnad-e Ahmad, \Nits number is 13377.
Dialogue: 0,0:37:02.90,0:37:10.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Anas Bin Malik R.A. states that the \NProphet (pbuh) was in one of his journeys.
Dialogue: 0,0:37:10.71,0:37:17.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And along with him was a black young man, \Nwhose name was Anjasha.
Dialogue: 0,0:37:17.07,0:37:20.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He had a good voice and would \Naccompany his wives
Dialogue: 0,0:37:20.82,0:37:23.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and sing songs\Nwhile driving the camels.
Dialogue: 0,0:37:23.03,0:37:25.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Hassan] Okay.\N[Ghamidi] I am presenting
Dialogue: 0,0:37:25.02,0:37:28.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,these Narrations especially to you that\N'women should not hear the voice of men',
Dialogue: 0,0:37:28.81,0:37:30.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,'men should not hear\Nthe voice of women', etc.
Dialogue: 0,0:37:30.77,0:37:33.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Look at what comes forth \Nin the light of these Narrations?
Dialogue: 0,0:37:33.55,0:37:36.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,With this, the reality also\Ncomes to be known that
Dialogue: 0,0:37:36.57,0:37:40.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the point stated with regard\Nto the Prophet's wives,
Dialogue: 0,0:37:40.21,0:37:44.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that too has a context.\NI have had a detailed discussion on it.
Dialogue: 0,0:37:44.36,0:37:46.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Those people who have\Ninferred from it that
Dialogue: 0,0:37:46.78,0:37:48.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,even the voice of a woman\Nis to be veiled,
Dialogue: 0,0:37:48.77,0:37:51.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they haven't really \Nunderstood the whole point.
Dialogue: 0,0:37:51.32,0:37:55.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That point wasn't made there at all.\NThere it was a specific situation,
Dialogue: 0,0:37:55.32,0:37:58.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,an occasion where the Prophet's \Nwives have been instructed that
Dialogue: 0,0:37:58.87,0:38:02.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,these hypocrites who\Npresent themselves on your door.
Dialogue: 0,0:38:02.07,0:38:05.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They are up to different conspiracies,\Nand have mischief in their minds.
Dialogue: 0,0:38:05.73,0:38:09.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Be wary of them. From that,\Nthe people deduced this!
Dialogue: 0,0:38:09.18,0:38:13.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Here you see, that the Prophet (pbuh),\Nis listening to women, slave-girls.
Dialogue: 0,0:38:13.36,0:38:15.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He goes on further to say \Nto Sayyeda Ayesha that
Dialogue: 0,0:38:15.83,0:38:18.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if you wish to hear \Nthen she listens too.
Dialogue: 0,0:38:18.13,0:38:20.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Black men are singing too, \Nthey are being listened to.
Dialogue: 0,0:38:20.58,0:38:22.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And here as well you see, \Nwhat are the words,
Dialogue: 0,0:38:22.93,0:38:26.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"He had a sweet voice, \Nhis name was Anjasha,
Dialogue: 0,0:38:26.18,0:38:29.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a black young man, who\Nhad a melodious voice,
Dialogue: 0,0:38:29.91,0:38:32.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and used to accompany the Prophet's \Nwives in the caravan
Dialogue: 0,0:38:32.75,0:38:35.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to sing and drive the camels.\NDo you know what Hudi is?
Dialogue: 0,0:38:35.72,0:38:40.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,These are the songs that are sung to \Ndrive and speed up the camels.
Dialogue: 0,0:38:40.70,0:38:42.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Those are called Hudi.
Dialogue: 0,0:38:42.74,0:38:45.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This word is also similarly \Nused in the Urdu language.
Dialogue: 0,0:38:45.98,0:38:49.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So he used to do 'Hudi-Khwaani'.\Ni.e. he used to sing such a song
Dialogue: 0,0:38:49.86,0:38:56.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that the camels would speed up.\NAnd the journey would complete fast.
Dialogue: 0,0:38:56.13,0:39:00.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Hence, on an occasion, i.e. \Nhe would accompany the Prophet's wives,
Dialogue: 0,0:39:00.55,0:39:03.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and sing to drive the camels,\Nhence on an occasion,
Dialogue: 0,0:39:03.60,0:39:06.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he really speeded up \Nthe camels of the Caravan.
Dialogue: 0,0:39:06.00,0:39:08.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Hassan] Okay.\N[Ghamidi] i.e. he sang the Hudi,
Dialogue: 0,0:39:08.45,0:39:12.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and did it so well that the camels \Nof the caravan went on fast.
Dialogue: 0,0:39:12.72,0:39:18.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Anas R.A. says that when he was near \Nthe Prophet and Anjasha he heard,
Dialogue: 0,0:39:18.89,0:39:23.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that the Prophet on seeing this said,\NAlas, I feel sorry for you Anjasha
Dialogue: 0,0:39:23.06,0:39:27.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,please go slow Anjasha, let these Aabgeens\N(delicate vessels made of mud) move slowly
Dialogue: 0,0:39:27.35,0:39:30.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,i.e. these are women folk.\NSee what a beautiful expression is it.
Dialogue: 0,0:39:30.62,0:39:32.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Let these 'Aabgeens' travel slowly,
Dialogue: 0,0:39:32.74,0:39:35.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,i.e. he meant that the women \Nare sitting on the camels,
Dialogue: 0,0:39:35.82,0:39:39.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and if you sing in this way, \Nand if the camels move on at this speed,
Dialogue: 0,0:39:39.48,0:39:41.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then there is a fear\Nthat they might get harmed.
Dialogue: 0,0:39:41.98,0:39:43.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Hassan] The comment has \Nbeen made on the speeding camels.
Dialogue: 0,0:39:43.58,0:39:45.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Ghamidi] The comment\Nhas been made on it.
Dialogue: 0,0:39:45.31,0:39:48.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,However, he used to sing Hudi, \Nand would do so in a good voice.
Dialogue: 0,0:39:48.94,0:39:51.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He used to accompany the\NProphet's wives on the journey.
Dialogue: 0,0:39:51.74,0:39:55.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He used to sing Hudi and did his \Njob in such a wonderful voice,
Dialogue: 0,0:39:55.97,0:39:58.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that the camels would\Nstart moving speedily.
Dialogue: 0,0:39:58.48,0:40:01.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Here the Prophet said to him, \Nsing in a lower voice.
Dialogue: 0,0:40:01.26,0:40:05.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That you have such an exceptional power\Nto mesmerize with your voice,
Dialogue: 0,0:40:05.27,0:40:08.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that the camels do not pause at all, \Nthey just race forward.
Dialogue: 0,0:40:08.96,0:40:12.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,A little lower in voice as the camels \Nhave delicate vessels on them.
Dialogue: 0,0:40:12.97,0:40:15.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And they might get harmed.
Dialogue: 0,0:40:15.11,0:40:16.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Hassan] This Narration Ghamidi \NSahab was quite exceptional.
Dialogue: 0,0:40:16.100,0:40:17.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It is well expounded.
Dialogue: 0,0:40:17.82,0:40:19.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The time for this session \Nis also nearing its end.
Dialogue: 0,0:40:19.52,0:40:20.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I wish that you present \Nthe last Narration for today.
Dialogue: 0,0:40:20.49,0:40:22.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then we would \Nmove towards the close.
Dialogue: 0,0:40:22.16,0:40:24.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is the Narration \Nof Syedna Umar R.A.
Dialogue: 0,0:40:24.16,0:40:27.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and we have taken it \Nfrom Nasai's As Sunan ul Kubra.
Dialogue: 0,0:40:27.32,0:40:30.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Its number is 8193.
Dialogue: 0,0:40:30.58,0:40:33.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Umar R.A. states, i.e. Syedna Umar,
Dialogue: 0,0:40:33.78,0:40:37.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Umar Ibn-e Khattab R.A. \NUmar R.A. states that
Dialogue: 0,0:40:37.05,0:40:41.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the Prophet (pbuh) \Nin one of his journeys,
Dialogue: 0,0:40:41.03,0:40:47.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,said to Abdullah Bin Rawaha, would \Nyou speed up our rides a little.
Dialogue: 0,0:40:47.11,0:40:50.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,i.e. he himself requested\Nfor singing the Hudi.
Dialogue: 0,0:40:50.29,0:40:52.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Hassan] Okay.\N[Ghamidi] When the camels
Dialogue: 0,0:40:52.18,0:40:54.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are journeying and the\Ncameleers are with them.
Dialogue: 0,0:40:54.74,0:40:57.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There are women\Nas well men among them.
Dialogue: 0,0:40:57.26,0:41:00.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And at times the camels slow down \Na bit,
Dialogue: 0,0:41:00.35,0:41:03.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so the Prophet (pbuh) said \Nto Abdullah Bin Rawaha,
Dialogue: 0,0:41:03.40,0:41:07.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Would you speed up our rides a little",\NAbdullah replied,
Dialogue: 0,0:41:07.72,0:41:11.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"I have stopped with the singing of Hudi".
Dialogue: 0,0:41:11.05,0:41:14.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,On this Umar R.A. said,\N"Listen and Obey".
Dialogue: 0,0:41:14.16,0:41:17.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You have stopped? What is this?\NThe Prophet (pbuh) has said.
Dialogue: 0,0:41:17.85,0:41:22.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You note the nature of \Na person, how it manifests?
Dialogue: 0,0:41:22.49,0:41:26.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Umar said, "Listen and obey",\Nhence he sang these couplets.
Dialogue: 0,0:41:26.74,0:41:29.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"O Allah, had Your \NMercy not been there,
Dialogue: 0,0:41:29.30,0:41:31.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then we neither would\Nhave received Guidance,
Dialogue: 0,0:41:31.50,0:41:34.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,nor would have made charity.\NNeither would we offer Salah,
Dialogue: 0,0:41:34.44,0:41:38.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so now bestow us with\Nyour peace and keep us steadfast
Dialogue: 0,0:41:38.26,0:41:41.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in case of an encounter\Nwith the enemy".
Dialogue: 0,0:41:41.49,0:41:43.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The original words \Nthat are used in it are
Dialogue: 0,0:41:43.98,0:41:49.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Allahumma Lawla Anta \NMahtadaina Wala Tassaddaqna
Dialogue: 0,0:41:49.61,0:41:55.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Wala Sallaina Fa Anzalan Sakinatan Ilaina\NWas Sabbitul akdaama In Laa Kaina"
Dialogue: 0,0:41:55.98,0:41:59.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,These were the couplets read by him, \NI have read its translation to you.
Dialogue: 0,0:41:59.62,0:42:03.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When the Prophet (pbuh)\Nheard these pure words,
Dialogue: 0,0:42:03.22,0:42:07.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he said, "Ya Allah have Mercy upon him".\NUmar R.A. immediately said
Dialogue: 0,0:42:07.73,0:42:09.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Now the Mercy has \Nbecome compulsory!"
Dialogue: 0,0:42:09.90,0:42:12.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Hassan] Subhanallah.\N[Ghamidi] There are some
Dialogue: 0,0:42:12.08,0:42:16.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,other aspects as well, i.e. how the \NSahaba used to see the Prophet (pbuh)?
Dialogue: 0,0:42:16.10,0:42:20.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What was the importance of a request of\Nthe Prophet (pbuh) for Syedna Umar R.A.
Dialogue: 0,0:42:20.57,0:42:22.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And the point that if on any \Noccasion
Dialogue: 0,0:42:22.90,0:42:26.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the Prophet has blessed \Nsomeone with such a sentence,
Dialogue: 0,0:42:26.70,0:42:29.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then what was its \Nsignificance for them?
Dialogue: 0,0:42:29.42,0:42:32.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,However, as of now, this aspect does \Nnot relate to our topic.
Dialogue: 0,0:42:32.50,0:42:34.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Still, the real point \Nis clear even in this.
Dialogue: 0,0:42:34.74,0:42:36.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That such couplets were sung
Dialogue: 0,0:42:36.84,0:42:39.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the Prophet (pbuh) himself \Nhad requested for them.
Dialogue: 0,0:42:39.53,0:42:42.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Hassan] Ghamidi Sahab, all those\NNarrations from the corpus of Hadees
Dialogue: 0,0:42:42.40,0:42:44.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where, with reference to\NSinging and Music,
Dialogue: 0,0:42:44.36,0:42:46.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with some aspect or the other,\Nsome point has been discussed
Dialogue: 0,0:42:46.99,0:42:49.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and those Narrations are\Nacceptable to us
Dialogue: 0,0:42:49.27,0:42:50.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with respect to their\NChain of Narrations,
Dialogue: 0,0:42:50.100,0:42:52.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,i.e. either those are Sahih\Nor the level of Hasan.
Dialogue: 0,0:42:52.86,0:42:55.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We are exploring the whole\Ncorpus of Hadees with you.
Dialogue: 0,0:42:55.20,0:42:57.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And the arguments that\Nyou had pointed out
Dialogue: 0,0:42:57.62,0:42:59.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the introductory Sessions,
Dialogue: 0,0:42:59.32,0:43:01.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,their applications are\Nalso becoming clear in these.
Dialogue: 0,0:43:01.51,0:43:03.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,A lot of newer aspects were \Nunraveled in Today's session.
Dialogue: 0,0:43:03.77,0:43:05.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I would wish that in the\Nnext episode
Dialogue: 0,0:43:05.25,0:43:07.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,all the Narrations would \Nbe completed inshallah.
Dialogue: 0,0:43:07.99,0:43:10.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And after that a concise \Nand complete analysis that
Dialogue: 0,0:43:10.68,0:43:13.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the biographical recorda in history \Nhave in them, about the Prophet (pbuh).
Dialogue: 0,0:43:13.38,0:43:16.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What aspects are stated \Nwith reference to Singing and Music?
Dialogue: 0,0:43:16.24,0:43:18.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We have exhausted our time, \Nwe shall again be at your service.
Dialogue: 0,0:43:18.43,0:43:20.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Thank you very much \Nfor your time till now.
Dialogue: 0,0:43:20.88,0:43:22.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Ghamidi] Thank you very much.