كذب وحلم سيف الاحلام في اخر إجتماعاته

كذب وحلم سيف الاحلام في اخر إجتماعاته

We, of course, have the slogan "Victory or martyrdom."

They have the slogan "Victory or Egypt." (Nasr au Masr)

Bu Shena ("Mr Fez" = Mustafa Abdeljalil) is 75 years old

We decided a long time ago to eliminate him. Elimination [unclear]. I mean, there was no hope in him.

He's very poor.

These are the people they have on their side.

Why would the Uhaishi area or the Majori area come out in a demonstrations with the green flag?

Weren't they all about "revolution" and discontented, and the revolution of the youth?

And then, what youth, Mr Fez is 75 years old, and the other one...

We won't raise the white flag. We won't surrender. The ceasefire won't happen. Until Libya returns to how it was.

Room by room, alley by alley.

Didn't he go to Obama and ask for 5 billion? They're in need.

We, of course, have the slogan "Victory or martyrdom."

They have the slogan "Victory or Egypt." (an-Nasr au Masr)

Speaker: I found someone with a box in front like a pregnant woman, begging for alms.

Saif: Who?

Speaker: Those people in Tunis. The rats.

Saif: By the way, since we're speaking about the rats

There's an Italian man, the first to enter Benghazi on the 20th of February

I mean, the first one [to enter]

So he spoke to me about them. I asked him to tell me.

So he said, "I was in the Uzu hotel." He said, when the army entered, he said the first thing

was that there was no paint in the city. Everyone was painting the Angola flag.

It looks like the Angolan flag.

off camera: "They've named it the melon, red and green"

Saif: You see, the Egypt guy, what's his name, their military commander

Off camera: Tantawi

He said: What's Pakistan's flag doing here?

A new flag, that looks like Pakistan's.

So he [Italian] said, they started painting and there was one person with a sticker of the flag on the glass [of the car]

which wouldn't be removed, whatever he did. So in the end he reversed and broke it.

He said "Better break the glass rather than [unclear]"

He swore to me and he said, my Italian friend

he told me all the members of the council and all the rats

he said, they all fled, and some reached Egypt and some hid in Tobruk

he said they didn't return until after a week

Even after the American and French and the NATO bombing

They stayed a whole week hidden away scared

Anyway, as for the eastern region, this region was kidnapped by criminals

Like a hijacked airplane

Have you ever heard of a hijacked plane being considered the property of the hijackers?

We are returning to Barga [Cyrenaica]

You know we are returning to Benghazi

There is no discussion there

This is a red line. Libya's unity cannot be let go

NATO or the devil, this is not up for discussion, even if all of Libya dies. Anyway

The main reason for the meeting

to be clear, what is happening in Libya now, Libya has changed

Libya has changed and won't return to how it was, ever, and it is impossible that it will return

Libya in the past

Off camera: Glad tidings, God willing

Of course, but what is in the past can't return

once bitten twice shy [lit. the believer is not stung from the same den twice]

Firstly, I was responsible for this period. I brought all these people and gave them power

The whole council, I brought them

They used to go around penniless, with nothing

I brought them in and gave them jobs

Because I used to believe Libya was for all, the country was for all, and that in Libya we are all equals

Even the Italian journalist, I remember, said there was a Libyan who told him

"All the destruction in Libya is Saif al Islam's fault"

He said, I asked him "Why?" He said: "Because he brought these people and he created this atmosphere of reconciliation

and this is the reason for this."

Off camera: I don't know who said it

Saif: I mean, we saw Libyans saying takbir, and women ululating for the rockets and planes of the Christians hitting us

We saw a Libyan saying "Thank God for the NATO, and carry on striking NATO."

We saw a Libyan who goes out from morning to night, and his job is to get co-ordinates of sites where his brothers are

We've seen all this, and we saw it in 1911 and after, after the Italian colonialism, the agents and the mercenaries and traitors

and Mussolini came to them and they called him Saif al Islam or Saif al Haq or something [Sword of Islam/Truth]

and there was poetry for him and they came up with names for Mussolini

These same people have returned after 100 years

In the future... in the beginning we said "We're all equal, we're all alike and Libya is for all."

But what happened? Those I returned with from abroad, changed from a gentle lamb to a poisonous snake

The first person to bite was him, the same person who used to read the Fatiha for you came up on TV with his hand raised against you

The one who was nothing, wandering outside [the country]

and I brought him and told him it's your right, this is your country

He was the first to deal with the enemy, with the Christians, with the Jews

and lastly, they brought us a Zionist Jew

there are Jews that aren't Zionists

A Zionist, and they told him, you rule Libya

Then, in the future, this is my opinion, and you of course will agree with me, I don't think we should have this equality

I don't think it's a future, as it brought Bernard Lévy and brought the Jews and Christians

and tomorrow he tells me "we'll sit equal and I have a right in the oil, just like you, and a right in power

and this is my country." No, go elsewhere [lit. God open (other opportunities) for you]

Then, this is finished. This is finished.

The matter of equality in Libya is finished, forever.

There will be no equality in Libya

In Libya now there are levels (different statuses)

Even with God, the believers have levels

Those who fought and spent money are not like those who...

And so, there are tribes and areas in Libya which, I won't say defended the Leader and the Revolution

No, they were the first to defend the country and our nation

We in the end defend our country and our families, as Libyans

Yes, Libyans, but there is an A and a B [different statuses]

This is a truth

Or you who was one who was one of the rats, a big rat, and I, a warrior and we have martyrs, are equal

Or why has God created heaven and hellfire?

Off camera: Doctor...

And so, in the future, Libya, it's wealth and it's oil and it's money, and the rule in it is for the people who are now fighting for the sake of Libya and who paid the price

Off camera: We are steadfast

Those who went...I tell you something, we will work to make sure, and this is recorded from me, in Libya it must be like what happened in Algeria

In Algeria, after the independence war was victorious over the imperialist Italian colonialism

by the way Bernard Lévy is one of the French colonialists who was in Algeria

When the French left, 100s of thousands of Algerian left with them, they are now in France

They have whole towns they live in, these are the traitors and the agents of the French

When they went to the Algerians, they said we are fighting and liberating and you were agents

and now when Algeria is independent, you want to come and share it? No, you were with France, go to your France

The traitors can go live in Doha, Dubai, Abu Dhabi, Paris, London, anywhere. No problem. Sydney, Monte Carlo. But Libya, no.

Stay over there, you have no place here.

Now Shalgam, the conspiracy he created, which led to hundreds of Libyans dying in the strikes

Tomorrow Shalgam will come and say I'm a Libyan, I want to live...yesterday he said

I will put myself up for elections in Libya

Anyway

Now Shalgam wants to return and be a Libyan citizen. No way.

After the victory, we will do exactly like Algeria

Off camera: hunt them

NATO leaves and the rats leave with them

All the rats got to NATO, Qatar, UAE, Jordan and no more Libya

There is a Sheikh called Gheriani. I told them to put him on the broadcast and let him talk and stuff

What breaks wudu, and the woman who wants to divorce, and the woman who wants to marry and so on, stuff that has nothing to do with politics

I said...he's actually al Alam (not Gheriani) Sadeq al Alam

His grandfather is Libya's old mufti

Who was he? The one Mussolini used

The one who told him: rule as the fates decree, for you alone are the vanquisher [line of poetry]

He made Mussolini like God

This is the grandfather of this Gheriani

Anyway, what I want to tell you is, so Libya in the future is for the people who died for it, who sacrificed for it, who fought for it

Libya is for them, the oil, and the petrol and the rule, this is our country, we died for it

and those who went to NATO and Qatar and over there, go over there

as for Libya, those people have no place in it anymore

Thus, there are areas which are our base, as you said

From the first day they stood up, they picked up arms, they fought, they resisted, they died

these areas...now Libya is segregated, there are areas which are half-and-half, and areas which are with us 100%

from the first day, they took their decision

Now, Libya will build a new army and a new police

and build a new order

We will begin with those closest to us [ie the most loyal to the regime] like the Igilat area

We have volunteers, to bring out all the people who want to volunteer and to fight

Today you volunteer, but tomorrow you will have your wage and your job

in the Libyan armed forces

Because our army in the future will be made up of specific tribes, specific areas