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Dialogue: 0,0:00:10.00,0:00:14.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[soft electronic music]
Dialogue: 0,0:00:20.92,0:00:26.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Tala Madani: People always come to\NL.A. for the stars,
Dialogue: 0,0:00:26.66,0:00:29.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and that's what we're going to\Ndo today.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:30.27,0:00:32.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,How fast you can actually get\Nto wilderness
Dialogue: 0,0:00:32.38,0:00:35.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in Los Angeles is brilliant.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:36.61,0:00:39.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I think, you know, you\Nhave to kind of find
Dialogue: 0,0:00:39.78,0:00:41.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the things that inspire you.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:43.48,0:00:45.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Oh, look at that light.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:45.00,0:00:46.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Oh, magnificent.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:46.90,0:00:48.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Gasps]
Dialogue: 0,0:00:48.44,0:00:51.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,♪ ♪
Dialogue: 0,0:01:02.14,0:01:03.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's so close.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:03.05,0:01:04.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The moon is\Nvery close.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:05.42,0:01:11.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,♪ ♪
Dialogue: 0,0:01:12.68,0:01:15.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Keys jingling]
Dialogue: 0,0:01:25.68,0:01:27.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's a great studio, but...
Dialogue: 0,0:01:28.90,0:01:30.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a painting studio, what do you\Nneed?
Dialogue: 0,0:01:30.78,0:01:35.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You just need some paint, some\Nbrushes, some space.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:37.06,0:01:39.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Different paintings have\Ndifferent origins,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:39.16,0:01:43.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but mostly there is an idea in\Nthe very beginning.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:44.67,0:01:46.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It might not be very sort of\Nlike a verbal idea,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:46.99,0:01:50.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but it's still an idea of,\Nlike, you want this to happen,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:50.36,0:01:52.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then you have to figure\Nout how the image will work to
Dialogue: 0,0:01:52.36,0:01:53.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,make it happen.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:53.91,0:01:56.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I was just really\Ninterested with the idea that
Dialogue: 0,0:01:56.56,0:01:59.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there is a really recognizable\Nface,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:59.71,0:02:04.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and there is no requirement of\Na nose for this face.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:05.13,0:02:07.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I start making a lot of\Nsketches, basically.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:08.25,0:02:11.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I started with this color, and\Nthen I sort of couldn't
Dialogue: 0,0:02:11.78,0:02:15.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,make sense of the orange, so\Nit became all black and white,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:15.78,0:02:19.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then I think what really\Nsolved it was the idea
Dialogue: 0,0:02:19.33,0:02:22.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that they should have\NHitchcock kind of shadows.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:37.56,0:02:41.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was thinking about an\Nideology of the smiley
Dialogue: 0,0:02:41.45,0:02:43.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that surrounds a smiley about\Npeace.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:44.92,0:02:49.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I started to think about him\Nas a dogma, as a presence,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:49.24,0:02:50.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as a force,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:52.10,0:02:55.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and when their behavior was,\Nuh, forceful,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:56.05,0:02:58.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,uh, then certainly they're not\Nthat benevolent.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:01.36,0:03:04.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Something else in the show\Nthat I was really interested in
Dialogue: 0,0:03:04.63,0:03:06.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in general was light.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:07.14,0:03:10.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think I'm also interested in\Nthe word "projector."
Dialogue: 0,0:03:11.01,0:03:13.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then somehow, when I was\Nworking on them,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:13.44,0:03:15.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the light of the projector\Nreminded me a lot of a kind of
Dialogue: 0,0:03:15.91,0:03:18.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,religious light, and I thought\Nit would be interesting
Dialogue: 0,0:03:18.78,0:03:22.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to think about how this\Nreligious light is now replaced
Dialogue: 0,0:03:22.31,0:03:26.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,by the projector, and that's\Nthe source of the light,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:26.18,0:03:27.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is, I guess, much more\Ncontrolled.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:31.79,0:03:34.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There are a lot more religious\Nreferences than I've
Dialogue: 0,0:03:34.61,0:03:37.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,ever had before because the\Nsmileys seem to be
Dialogue: 0,0:03:37.28,0:03:42.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like a cult, and that led to\Nthinking about other cults.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:42.12,0:03:45.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was really interested in the\Nclash not the clash,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:45.64,0:03:49.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,per se, but the sort of\Ngetting closer, adopting,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:49.79,0:03:54.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the adaptation of one culture\Nby the other,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:54.10,0:03:58.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,whether violently through the\Nsmiley cutting off the nose
Dialogue: 0,0:03:58.84,0:04:02.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of another guy to make him\Nmore like the smileys
Dialogue: 0,0:04:02.93,0:04:07.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or with through desire, that\Nthere is this sort of
Dialogue: 0,0:04:07.39,0:04:10.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,budding pushing-closer
Dialogue: 0,0:04:10.26,0:04:12.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of the two systems.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:13.11,0:04:15.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know, sometimes adopting\Nanother culture
Dialogue: 0,0:04:15.50,0:04:18.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,can go sometimes wrong, you\Nknow?
Dialogue: 0,0:04:23.06,0:04:26.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In Los Angeles, the landscape\Nbeing so open,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:27.23,0:04:31.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you're not really bombarded\Nwith a lot of things in front
Dialogue: 0,0:04:31.13,0:04:32.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of you.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:33.37,0:04:35.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And there's not a lot of\Nhindrances to sort of, like,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:35.53,0:04:38.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,plow through every day to get\Nto your thoughts, your own
Dialogue: 0,0:04:38.15,0:04:39.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,thoughts.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:44.32,0:04:46.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was born in Tehran, Iran,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:46.44,0:04:50.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I left Tehran at 15 and I\Ncame to Oregon.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:51.43,0:04:54.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was culturally, uh, very\Ninformative.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:54.98,0:04:57.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Obviously I was, you know,\Ntaken out and brought somewhere
Dialogue: 0,0:04:57.54,0:05:01.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it made me really probably,\Nuh, what it taught me most was
Dialogue: 0,0:05:01.73,0:05:06.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,how, um, Iran is perceived\Noutside of Iran,
Dialogue: 0,0:05:06.76,0:05:08.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,more than anything else, and\Nyou become aware of
Dialogue: 0,0:05:09.50,0:05:12.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,well, especially somewhere\Nlike, um, rural Oregon,
Dialogue: 0,0:05:12.35,0:05:14.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you know, which is not very\Nmetropolitan.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:14.63,0:05:16.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I mean, it would have been a\Nvery different experience if I
Dialogue: 0,0:05:16.17,0:05:17.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,had moved to Los Angeles,
Dialogue: 0,0:05:17.63,0:05:20.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,surely, because there are just\Nso many Iranians in L.A.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:21.44,0:05:24.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think there is a proclivity\Nfor people to read
Dialogue: 0,0:05:24.23,0:05:27.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,into the figures as from Iran.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:27.51,0:05:30.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If I was a Mexican artist, the\Naudience would read them as
Dialogue: 0,0:05:30.06,0:05:31.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Mexican men.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:32.06,0:05:35.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Focusing on a group of men in\Nmy work
Dialogue: 0,0:05:35.28,0:05:37.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,more than a kind of\Nequilibrium
Dialogue: 0,0:05:37.94,0:05:39.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,between a subject of man and\Nwoman,
Dialogue: 0,0:05:40.09,0:05:43.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's not coming necessarily\Nfrom a personal experience
Dialogue: 0,0:05:43.56,0:05:47.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of having women being\Nsegregated.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:48.39,0:05:51.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think, for me, the reason\Nthat I started focusing on men
Dialogue: 0,0:05:51.94,0:05:54.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is because of my curiosity,
Dialogue: 0,0:05:54.50,0:05:59.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that in the same way that I'm equally interested in sort of\Nmale locker rooms in America,
Dialogue: 0,0:05:59.19,0:06:01.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's much more speaking to my\Nown limitations
Dialogue: 0,0:06:01.94,0:06:05.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of entering spaces...
Dialogue: 0,0:06:06.32,0:06:08.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which I then work through in\Nmy work
Dialogue: 0,0:06:08.94,0:06:10.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on some level.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:13.61,0:06:17.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Well, they're not necessarily\Neven, uh, going to be works.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:18.36,0:06:20.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Some of them are just empty\Ncanvases, of course,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:20.19,0:06:23.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but some of them are, you\Nknow, they're beginnings of
Dialogue: 0,0:06:23.08,0:06:24.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,something.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:24.73,0:06:27.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This figure was trying to fly\Nwith feathers,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:27.66,0:06:30.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I thought that was quite\Na, um, that
Dialogue: 0,0:06:30.00,0:06:33.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that's just sort of still\Nsomewhere around somewhere for me.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:33.48,0:06:35.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, you know, yeah, just\Nkeeping some things I could
Dialogue: 0,0:06:35.49,0:06:36.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,lead.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:37.04,0:06:39.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In a way, they're like\Nsketch books,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:39.07,0:06:41.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but in painted form.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:42.63,0:06:44.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,For any painting
Dialogue: 0,0:06:45.20,0:06:47.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that happens, you know, you do\Nso much and some might even
Dialogue: 0,0:06:47.69,0:06:52.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,don't happen, so this is a few\Nof them that might lead to...
Dialogue: 0,0:06:53.42,0:06:56.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,might lead to little other\Nmoments, basically.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:59.87,0:07:01.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Painting is actually quite\Ndifficult.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:01.25,0:07:03.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think that's why I'm really\Ninterested in it,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:03.35,0:07:07.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is that it's not something\Nthat comes really easily.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:12.70,0:07:17.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And in a way, I try to sort of\Npaint them in a really loose
Dialogue: 0,0:07:17.56,0:07:20.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and easy and uncontrolled way,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:21.16,0:07:23.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so to embrace not just in the\Nimage,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:23.64,0:07:26.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but also in their painted\Nattitude,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:26.14,0:07:30.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that level of freedom, that\Nlevel of pure life, joy.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:31.79,0:07:35.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,As a painter, my sense of\Nstorytelling
Dialogue: 0,0:07:35.43,0:07:38.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,happens to be satirical or\Nfunny.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:39.61,0:07:41.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It certainly loosens up your\Nunconscious
Dialogue: 0,0:07:41.95,0:07:45.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to be able to come out in ways\Nthat it couldn't otherwise.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:46.56,0:07:48.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is a little corner I've\Nmade
Dialogue: 0,0:07:48.87,0:07:51.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for making some animations
Dialogue: 0,0:07:51.18,0:07:53.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that I'm working on at the\Nmoment.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:53.83,0:07:55.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So this is the, um,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:56.15,0:07:58.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's a piece of wood board\Nthat's been painted
Dialogue: 0,0:07:58.69,0:08:02.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with acrylic, and then you can\Njust make the mark,
Dialogue: 0,0:08:02.06,0:08:05.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,take a picture, and erase it\Nand then come back again.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:11.11,0:08:13.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The animation's going to be\Nabout...
Dialogue: 0,0:08:13.23,0:08:16.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,two minutes, maybe two minutes\Nand a half,
Dialogue: 0,0:08:16.05,0:08:20.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and for that, there will be\Nabout 1,700 frames.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:20.98,0:08:23.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So far, it's just a few steps
Dialogue: 0,0:08:23.89,0:08:25.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of a figure coming into the\Nspace.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:27.58,0:08:30.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This animation will have a\Nvoice.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:31.46,0:08:32.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yeah, and it's going to be\Nreally interesting.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:32.89,0:08:37.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's going to be the voice of\NGod, so I have to imagine
Dialogue: 0,0:08:37.26,0:08:40.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what the voice of God will\Nsound like.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:41.11,0:08:43.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This was the first animation\Nwhere I, um, also had
Dialogue: 0,0:08:43.95,0:08:48.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a real background, a filmed\Nbackground.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:52.22,0:08:56.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I--I get a very, um, naive\Npleasure from them.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:03.87,0:09:05.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm really interested in this\Nrelationship
Dialogue: 0,0:09:05.31,0:09:07.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,between adults and kids,
Dialogue: 0,0:09:08.06,0:09:09.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you know, the potential
Dialogue: 0,0:09:09.90,0:09:12.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of what the kids are capable\Nof
Dialogue: 0,0:09:12.33,0:09:14.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and what the adults are\Ncapable of.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:17.61,0:09:21.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The stories that maybe are the\Nfundamentals
Dialogue: 0,0:09:21.95,0:09:24.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of, uh, western cultures are\Nvery much
Dialogue: 0,0:09:24.48,0:09:26.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about the kids replacing the\Nadults,
Dialogue: 0,0:09:26.51,0:09:28.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you know, with "Oedipus Rex."
Dialogue: 0,0:09:30.18,0:09:32.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But a lot of mythologies in\NIran
Dialogue: 0,0:09:32.56,0:09:37.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are actually that the parents\Nkill the kids,
Dialogue: 0,0:09:37.01,0:09:39.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sometimes by mistake.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:39.03,0:09:42.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, yeah, so we'll see if the\Nkids, um...
Dialogue: 0,0:09:43.90,0:09:45.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are stronger with the adults.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:48.58,0:09:51.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The way the paintings portray\Nthe figures
Dialogue: 0,0:09:51.98,0:09:55.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as sometimes childlike or\Nbehaving badly
Dialogue: 0,0:09:55.53,0:09:58.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or not knowing who the\Naggressor is, and if they're liking
Dialogue: 0,0:09:58.69,0:10:01.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,being victimized or being\Npulled at.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:02.44,0:10:04.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think I'm much more\Ninterested in our
Dialogue: 0,0:10:04.66,0:10:07.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in our culture that looks
Dialogue: 0,0:10:07.03,0:10:10.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,at those particular gestures
Dialogue: 0,0:10:10.97,0:10:13.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and finds fault in it.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:15.66,0:10:19.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,For me, I think the salvation
Dialogue: 0,0:10:19.65,0:10:22.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is to behave like children.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:22.62,0:10:27.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, in a sense, the true\Noppressor is the frontal lobe.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:27.38,0:10:31.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The true oppression would be,\Nlike, the controlled behavior.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:33.03,0:10:36.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The redemption is--is through\Nthis misbehavior,
Dialogue: 0,0:10:36.62,0:10:40.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I think the--the fact that\Nwe would judge them
Dialogue: 0,0:10:40.38,0:10:43.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as sort of behaving very badly\Nsays
Dialogue: 0,0:10:43.27,0:10:46.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about level of oppression that\Nwe put on ourselves.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:48.84,0:10:54.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[soft electronic music]