Our main story tonight is government surveillance. And I realize most people would rather have a conversation about literally any other topic. Including: 'Is my smartphone giving me cancer? To which the answer is: probably. Or: Do goldfish suffer from depression? To which the answer is: Yes, but very briefly. But the fact is, it is vital that we have a discussion about this now. Because an important date is just around the corner. "One big day to circle on the calendar, when it comes to a very controversial subject. The re-authorization of the Patriot Act, and all of the controversial provisions therein. June 1 they've got to come to an agreement to re-authorize or curttail those programs. Yes. Some controversial provisions within the Patriot Act are to expire on June 1. So circle that date on your calendars, everyone. And while you're at it: Circle June 2 as well. Because that's Justin Long's birthday. You all forgot last year... and he f*cking noticed. Now, over the last couple of years, you've probably heard a lot about strange-sounding programs. Such as: X-Keyscore, Muscular, Prism, and Mystic. Which are, coincidentally, also the names of some of Florida's least popular stripclubs. "Welcome to X-Keyscore! Our dancers are fully un-redacted and Tuesday is wing-night!" But if you don't mind, I would like to refresh your memory over some of this. And let's start our focussing on the most controversial portion of the Patriot Act, that is up for renewal. Section 215. Which, I'm aware, sounds like the name of an Eastern European boy-band. "We are Section 215. Prepare to have your hearts... throbbed." There's the cute one, the bad-boy, the one who strangled a potato-farmer, and the one without an eye-deficiency. They're incredible. But the contentst of the real Section 215 is actually even more sinister. It's called Section 215. Nicknamed: the library records provision. Which allows the Government to require businesses to hand over records of any "any tangible things" including: books, records, documents, and other items. If that sounds broad, that's because it was very much written that way. Section 215 says the Government can ask for "any tangible things" so long as it's "for an investigation to protect against international terrorism". Which is basically a blank cheque. It's letting a teenager borrow the car, under the strict condition that they only use it for 'car-related activities'. "Okay, mom and dad, I'm gonna use this for a hand-job in the Wendy's parking lot, but that is car-related, so I think I'm covered." Section 215 is overseen by a secret intelligence-court, known as the Pfizer-court. And they've interpreted it to mean the Government could basically collect and store phone-records for every American. The vast majority of whom, of course, have no connection to terrorism. Unless, Aunt Cheryl has been greatly mis-characterized the activities of her needle-point club. "It's a sleeper-cell! Isn't is, Aunt Cheryl?" "You are hanged for this, Aungt Cheryl. You're a traiter and a terrible aunt. Not in that order." Now, the Government will point out that under 215, they hold phone-records, and not the calls themselves. What the intelligence-community is doing, is looking at phone-numbers, and durations of calls, they are not looking at peoples names, and they are not looking at content. Yes, but that's not entirely reassuring. Because you can extrapolate a lot from that information. If they knew that you'd called your ex 12 times last night, between 1 and 4 AM, for a duration of 15 minutes each time, they can be fairly sure that you've left some pretty pathetic voice-mails. "I don't care whose monitoring this call, Vicky, we should be together! Pick up the phone, dammit! I'm a human being, not an animal!" Now, the Patriot-act was written, just after 9-11. And for years, it was extended and re-authorized with barely a passing thought. In fact, it became so routine, that when it was extended in 2011, one newscaster just tacked it onto the end of a report about a Presidential trip abroad. Chip Reemes. CBS-news is travelling with the President in Dovell, France. Also in France, by the way, President Obama signed in the law 4- year extension of the terrorism fighting Patriot-Act. Also in France, by the way? By the way? He threw that in, like a mother telling her young daughter that her childhood pet just died. "Oh, nice talking to you, sweety. Also, by the way, Mr. Peppers is dead, see you at Christmas." BANG But all of that, was before the public was made aware of what the Government's capabilities actually were. 'Cause that all ended in June of 2013. Edward Snowden has just taken responsibility for one of the biggest Government leaks in US history. We learned that the Government has the capacity to track virtually every American phone-call, and to scoop up impossibly vast quantities of data across the Internet. Revelations that the NSA eavesdropped on world leaders. Have you've ever been to the Bahamas, the NSA could've recorded your phone-calls and stored them up to a month. All that information was exposed by Edward Snowden. And it is still kind of incredible, that a 29-year old contractor, was able to steal top-secret documents from an organization that LITERALLY has the word 'security' in it's name. Clearly, that was not great for them. Because the only place where it should be that easy for employees in their 20-ies to steal, is a Lids store. "Dude, you sure we should take this?" "Relax, dude, it's a Miami Marlins-cap, we're not exactly selling Fabergé eggs here." It is still unclear, exactly how many documents Edward Snowden stole. Although he is consistently trying to re-assure people that he put them in good hands. Honestly, I don't want to be the person making the decisions about what should be public and what shouldn't. Which is why I, rather than publishing these on my own or putting them openly, I'm putting them through journalists. Well, that sounds great. But of course it's not a fail-safe plan. As was proven when the New York Times published this slide, but did such a sloppy job of blocking out redacted information, that some people were able to read the information behind that black bar, which concerned how the US was monitoring Al-Qaida in Mosul, a group now known as ISIS. So essentially, a national security secret was leaked, because no-one at the Times knows how to use Microsoft Paint. And look, you can think that Snowden did the wrong thing, or did it in the wrong way. But the fact it, we have this information now, and we no longer get the luxury of pleading ignorance. It's like you can't go to Sea World and pretend Sha-Mu's happy anymore. When we now know, at least have the water in her tank is whale-tears. We know that now. You can't un-know that information. So you have to bear that in mind. But here's the thing: It's now 2 years later, and it seems like we've kind of forgotten to have a debate over the content of what Snowden leaked. A recent Pew-report found that nearly half of Americans say they're 'not very concerned', of 'not at all concerned' about Government surveillance. Which is fine. If that's an informed opinion. But I'm not sure that it is. Because we actually sent a camera-crew to Times Square to ask some random passers by who Edward Snowden was, and what he did. And there are the responses that we got. I have no idea who Edward Snowden is. Have no idea who Edward Snowden is. I've heard the name, I just can't picutre right now exactly what it is. Edward Snowden... No. I do not. Just for the record, that wasn't cherry picking. That was entirely reflective of everyone we spoke to. Although, to be fair, some people did remember his name, they just couldn't remember why. He sold some information to people. He revealed some information that shouldn't have been revealed. I think from what I remember, is that the information that he shared was detrimental to our military secrets? And keeping our soldiers and our country safe? He leaked documents what the Army's operations in Iraq. Edward Snowden revealed a bunch of secrets, I guess, or information into Wiki, Wikileaks? Edward Snowden leaked... he's in charge of Wikileaks? Edward Snowden revealed a lot of documents through Wikileaks...? Okay, so here's the thing: Edward Snowden is NOT the Wikileaks guy. The Wikileaks guy is Julian Assange. And you do not want to be confused by him. Partly because he was far less careful than Snowden with what he released, and how. And partly because he resembles a sandwich-bag full of biscuits while wearing a Stevie Knicks-wig. And that is, that is ciritical. Julian Assange is not a like-able man. Even Benedict Cumberbatch could not make him like-able. He's un-Cumberbatch-able. That was supposed to be physically impossible. I don't blame people for being confused. We've been looking at this story for the last 2 weeks, and it is hard to get your head around. Not just because there are so many complicated programs to keep track of, but also because there are no easy answers here. We all naturally want perfect privacy, and perfect safety. But those 2 things cannot coexist. It's like how you can't have a badass pet falcon... and an adorable pet vole named Herbert. Either you have to lose one of them, which obviously you don't want to do. Or you have to accept some reasonable restrictions on both of them. Now to be fair, the NSA will argue that just because they can do something doesn't mean they do do it. And, that there are restrictions on their operations, such as the Pfizer-court, which, must approve requests for foreign surveillance. But. In 34 years, that court has approved some 35000 applications, and only rejected 12. Yes. Much like Robert Durst's second wife. The Pfizer-court is alarmingly accepting. "Listen, Robert, I'm not gonna ask you too many questions. I'm just gonna give you the benefit of the doubts that you clearly don't deserve." At least tell him to blink and burp less. The burping might be the most troubling thing about that show. So, so maybe there's time for us to talk. About where the limits should be. And the best place to start would be Section 215. Not just because it's the easiest one to understand, but there is wide-spread agreement it needs to be reformed. From the President, to Ted Cruz, to both the ACLU and the NRA, to even the guy who wrote the thing in the first place. I was the principal author of the Patriot Act. I can say that without qualification Congress never did intend to allow bulk-collections when it passed Section 215. And no fair reading of the text would allow for this program. Think about that. He was the author. That's the legislative equivalent of Lewis Carrol seeing the tea-cups ride at Disney Land, and saying: "This has got to be reined in. No fair reading of my text would allow for this ride." "You've turned my perfectly nice tail of psychedelic paedofilia into a garish vomitorium." "This is not what I wanted!" And even the NSA has said that the number of terror-plots in the US, that the Section 215 phone-records program has disrupted is 1. And it's worth noting that that 1 plot involved a cabdriver in San Diego who gave $8500 to a terror-group. And that is the shittiest terrorist-plot I've ever seen, other than the plot of A Good Day To Die Hard. But here's the big problem here: If we let Section 215 get renewed in it's current form, without serious public debate, we're in trouble. Because Section 215 is the canary in the coalmine. If we cannot fix that, we're not gonna fix any of them. And the public debate so far, has been absolutely pathetic. A year ago, a former congresswoman was discussing the 215 program on the news. Watch wat happened. This vast collection of data is not that useful, and infringes substantially on personal privacy. I think at this point we should seriously consider not continuing... Congress woman, let me interrupt you. Let me interrupt you just for one moment. We've got some breaking news out of Miami. Stand by if you will. Right now in Miami, Justin Beiber has been arrested on a number of charges. The judge is reading the charges, including resisting arrest and driving under the influence. He's appearing now before the judge for his bond-hearing. Let's watch. Actually, you know what? Bad news, we're gonna have to interrupt your interruption of the Beiber news, for a new interruption. This time featuring a YouTube video of a tortoise having sex with a plastic clog. Let's watch. That. Is essentially the current tone of this vitally important debate. And again: I'm not saying this is an easy conversation. But we have to have it. I know this is confusing. And unfortunately, the most obvious person to talk to about this, is Edward Snowden. But he currently lives in Russia. Meaning, if you wanted to ask him about any of these issues, you'd have to fly all the way there to do it, and it is not a pleasant flight. And the reason I know that... is that last week, I went to Russia to speak to Edward Snowden. And this is what happened. Yes, last week I spent 48 paranoid hours in Moscow. Arguably the last place on earth where you can find an overweight Josef Stalin impersonator arguing with an unconvinsing fake Lenin. And after experiencing Russia's famously warm hospitality, I went to meet Edward Snowden. Who is supposed to show up in this room at noon. However, after 5 minutes after the interview was scheduled to begin, I had a troubling thought. I don't know. You think he's coming? 'Cause my argument is: Why would he? When you think about it. I got 2000 roebels that says he doesn't make it. Without understanding how much that is. All I'm saying is... a 10-hour flight for an empty chair... I'm gonna lose my shit. Okay, it turns out that there may be a bit of a problem. 'Cause our Russian producer... booked us in a room directly overlooking... the old KGB-building. And the home of the current Federal Security Bureau. And I'm just been told that they know we're here. So uhm... So that happened. Uhm, just if the Russian... Russian KGB is listening: we'll ring the fire-alarm if he's not coming. Oh shit. Oh God. So sorry for the delay. - It's fine. HOLY SHIT. He actually came. Edward f*cking Snowden. The most famous here an/or traitor in recent American history!