9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 Our main story tonight 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 is government surveillance. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 And I realize most people 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 would rather have a conversation 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 about literally any other topic. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 Including: 'Is my smartphone 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 giving me cancer? 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 To which the answer is: probably. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 Or: Do goldfish suffer from depression? 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 To which the answer is: 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 Yes, but very briefly. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 But the fact is, it is vital that we 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 have a discussion about this now. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 Because an important date is just around the corner. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 "One big day to circle on the calendar, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 when it comes to a very controversial subject. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 The re-authorization of the Patriot Act, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 and all of the controversial 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 provisions therein. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 June 1 they've got to come to an agreement 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 to re-authorize or curttail those programs. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 Yes. Some controversial provisions within 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 the Patriot Act are to expire on June 1. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 So circle that date 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 on your calendars, everyone. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 And while you're at it: 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 Circle June 2 as well. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 Because that's Justin Long's birthday. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 You all forgot last year... 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 and he f*cking noticed. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 Now, over the last couple of years, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 you've probably heard a lot about 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 strange-sounding programs. Such as: 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 X-Keyscore, Muscular, Prism, and Mystic. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 Which are, coincidentally, also the names 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 of some of Florida's least popular 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 stripclubs. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 "Welcome to X-Keyscore! 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 Our dancers are fully un-redacted 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 and Tuesday is wing-night!" 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 But if you don't mind, I would like to 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 refresh your memory over some of this. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 And let's start our focussing on the most 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 controversial portion of the Patriot Act, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 that is up for renewal. Section 215. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 Which, I'm aware, sounds like the name 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 of an Eastern European boy-band. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 "We are Section 215. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 Prepare to have your hearts... 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 throbbed." 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 There's the cute one, the bad-boy, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 the one who strangled a potato-farmer, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 and the one without an eye-deficiency. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 They're incredible. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 But the contentst of the real Section 215 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 is actually even more sinister. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 It's called Section 215. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 Nicknamed: the library records provision. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 Which allows the Government to require 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 businesses to hand over records of any 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 "any tangible things" 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 including: books, records, documents, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 and other items. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 If that sounds broad, that's because 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 it was very much written that way. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 Section 215 says the Government can ask 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 for "any tangible things" so long as it's 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 "for an investigation to protect 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 against international terrorism". 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 Which is basically a blank cheque. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 It's letting a teenager borrow the car, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 under the strict condition that they 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 only use it for 'car-related activities'. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 "Okay, mom and dad, I'm gonna use this 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 for a hand-job in the Wendy's parking lot, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 but that is car-related, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 so I think I'm covered." 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 Section 215 is overseen 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 by a secret intelligence-court, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 known as the Pfizer-court. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 And they've interpreted it to mean 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 the Government could basically 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 collect and store phone-records for 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 every American. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 The vast majority of whom, of course, have 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 no connection to terrorism. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 Unless, Aunt Cheryl has been greatly 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 mis-characterized the activities 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 of her needle-point club. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 "It's a sleeper-cell! 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 Isn't is, Aunt Cheryl?" 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 "You are hanged for this, Aungt Cheryl. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 You're a traiter and a terrible aunt. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 Not in that order." 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 Now, the Government will point out 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 that under 215, they hold phone-records, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 and not the calls themselves. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 What the intelligence-community is doing, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 is looking at phone-numbers, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 and durations of calls, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 they are not looking at peoples names, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 and they are not looking at content. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 Yes, but that's not entirely reassuring. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 Because you can extrapolate a lot 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 from that information. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 If they knew that you'd called your ex 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 12 times last night, between 1 and 4 AM, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 for a duration of 15 minutes each time, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 they can be fairly sure that you've left 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 some pretty pathetic voice-mails. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 "I don't care whose monitoring this call, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 Vicky, we should be together! 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 Pick up the phone, dammit! 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 I'm a human being, not an animal!" 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 Now, the Patriot-act was written, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 just after 9-11. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 And for years, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 it was extended and re-authorized 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 with barely a passing thought. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 In fact, it became so routine, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 that when it was extended in 2011, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 one newscaster just tacked it 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 onto the end of a report 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 about a Presidential trip abroad. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 Chip Reemes. CBS-news is travelling 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 with the President in Dovell, France. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 Also in France, by the way, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 President Obama signed in 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 the law 4- year extension 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 of the terrorism fighting Patriot-Act. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 Also in France, by the way? 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 By the way? 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 He threw that in, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 like a mother telling her young daughter 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 that her childhood pet just died. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 "Oh, nice talking to you, sweety. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 Also, by the way, Mr. Peppers is dead, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 see you at Christmas." BANG 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 But all of that, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 was before the public was made aware 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 of what the Government's capabilities 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 actually were. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 'Cause that all ended in June of 2013. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 Edward Snowden has just 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 taken responsibility for one of the 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 biggest Government leaks in US history. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 We learned that the Government has the 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 capacity to track virtually every American 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 phone-call, and to scoop up 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 impossibly vast quantities of data 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 across the Internet. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 Revelations that the NSA eavesdropped 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 on world leaders. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 Have you've ever been to the Bahamas, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 the NSA could've recorded your phone-calls 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 and stored them up to a month. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 All that information was exposed 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 by Edward Snowden. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 And it is still kind of incredible, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 that a 29-year old contractor, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 was able to steal top-secret documents 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 from an organization 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 that LITERALLY has the word 'security' 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 in it's name. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 Clearly, that was not great for them. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 Because the only place where it should 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 be that easy for employees in their 20-ies 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 to steal, is a Lids store. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 "Dude, you sure we should take this?" 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 "Relax, dude, it's a Miami Marlins-cap, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 we're not exactly selling 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 Fabergé eggs here." 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 It is still unclear, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 exactly how many documents 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 Edward Snowden stole. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 Although he is consistently trying 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 to re-assure people that he put them 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 in good hands. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 Honestly, I don't want to be the person 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 making the decisions about what should 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 be public and what shouldn't. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 Which is why I, rather than publishing 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 these on my own or putting them openly, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 I'm putting them through journalists. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 Well, that sounds great. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 But of course it's not a fail-safe plan. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 As was proven when the New York Times 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 published this slide, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 but did such a sloppy job of blocking out 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 redacted information, that some people 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 were able to read the information behind 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 that black bar, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 which concerned how the US was monitoring 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 Al-Qaida in Mosul, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 a group now known as ISIS. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 So essentially, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 a national security secret was leaked, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 because no-one at the Times knows 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 how to use Microsoft Paint. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 And look, you can think 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 that Snowden did the wrong thing, or 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 did it in the wrong way. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 But the fact it, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 we have this information now, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 and we no longer get the luxury 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 of pleading ignorance. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 It's like you can't go to Sea World and 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 pretend Sha-Mu's happy anymore. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 When we now know, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 at least have the water in her tank 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 is whale-tears. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 We know that now. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 You can't un-know that information. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 So you have to bear that in mind. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 But here's the thing: 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 It's now 2 years later, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 and it seems like we've kind of 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 forgotten to have a debate 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 over the content of what Snowden leaked. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 A recent Pew-report found that nearly 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 half of Americans say they're 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 'not very concerned', of 'not at all 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 concerned' about Government surveillance. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 Which is fine. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 If that's an informed opinion. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 But I'm not sure that it is. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 Because we actually sent a camera-crew 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 to Times Square to ask some random 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 passers by who Edward Snowden was, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 and what he did. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 And there are the responses that we got. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 I have no idea who Edward Snowden is. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 Have no idea who Edward Snowden is. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 I've heard the name, I just can't picutre 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 right now exactly what it is. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 Edward Snowden... 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 No. I do not. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 Just for the record, that wasn't 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 cherry picking. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 That was entirely reflective of everyone 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 we spoke to. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 Although, to be fair, some people 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 did remember his name, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 they just couldn't remember why. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 He sold some information to people. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 He revealed some information 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 that shouldn't have been revealed. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 I think from what I remember, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 is that the information that he shared 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 was detrimental to our military secrets? 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 And keeping our soldiers 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 and our country safe? 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 He leaked documents what the Army's 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 operations in Iraq. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 Edward Snowden revealed a bunch 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 of secrets, I guess, or information 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 into Wiki, Wikileaks? 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 Edward Snowden leaked... 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 he's in charge of Wikileaks? 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 Edward Snowden revealed a lot of 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 documents through Wikileaks...? 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 Okay, so here's the thing: 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 Edward Snowden is NOT the Wikileaks guy. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 The Wikileaks guy is Julian Assange. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 And you do not want to 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 be confused by him. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 Partly because he was far less careful 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 than Snowden with what he released, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 and how. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 And partly because he resembles 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 a sandwich-bag full of biscuits while 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 wearing a Stevie Knicks-wig. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 And that is, that is ciritical. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 Julian Assange is not a like-able man. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 Even Benedict Cumberbatch could not 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 make him like-able. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 He's un-Cumberbatch-able. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 That was supposed to be 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 physically impossible. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 I don't blame people for being confused. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 We've been looking at this story 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 for the last 2 weeks, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 and it is hard to get your head around. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 Not just because there are so many 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 complicated programs to keep track of, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 but also because 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 there are no easy answers here. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 We all naturally want perfect privacy, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 and perfect safety. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 But those 2 things cannot coexist. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 It's like how you can't have 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 a badass pet falcon... 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 and an adorable pet vole named Herbert. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 Either you have to lose one of them, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 which obviously you don't want to do. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 Or you have to accept some reasonable 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 restrictions on both of them. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 Now to be fair, the NSA will argue 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 that just because they can do something 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 doesn't mean they do do it. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 And, that there are restrictions on their 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 operations, such as the Pfizer-court, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 which, must approve requests for 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 foreign surveillance. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 But. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 In 34 years, that court has approved 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 some 35000 applications, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 and only rejected 12. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 Yes. Much like Robert Durst's second wife. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 The Pfizer-court is alarmingly accepting. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 "Listen, Robert, I'm not gonna 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 ask you too many questions. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 I'm just gonna give you the benefit of the 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 doubts that you clearly don't deserve." 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 At least tell him to blink and burp less. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 The burping might be the most troubling 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 thing about that show. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 So, so maybe there's time for us to talk. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 About where the limits should be. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 And the best place to start would be 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 Section 215. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 Not just because it's the easiest one 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 to understand, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 but there is wide-spread agreement 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 it needs to be reformed. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 From the President, to Ted Cruz, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 to both the ACLU and the NRA, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 to even the guy who wrote the thing 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 in the first place. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 I was the principal author 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 of the Patriot Act. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 I can say that without qualification 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 Congress never did intend to allow 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 bulk-collections when it passed 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 Section 215. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 And no fair reading of the text would 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 allow for this program. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 Think about that. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 He was the author. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 That's the