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Dialogue: 0,0:00:04.50,0:00:06.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Our main story tonight
Dialogue: 0,0:00:06.24,0:00:07.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is government surveillance.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:07.78,0:00:09.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I realize most people
Dialogue: 0,0:00:09.26,0:00:10.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,would rather have a conversation
Dialogue: 0,0:00:10.48,0:00:12.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about literally any other topic.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:12.77,0:00:14.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Including: 'Is my smartphone
Dialogue: 0,0:00:14.27,0:00:15.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,giving me cancer?'
Dialogue: 0,0:00:15.20,0:00:17.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,To which the answer is: Probably.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:17.08,0:00:19.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Or: 'Do goldfish suffer from depression?'
Dialogue: 0,0:00:19.13,0:00:20.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,To which the answer is:
Dialogue: 0,0:00:20.29,0:00:21.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yes, but very briefly.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:22.53,0:00:24.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But the fact is:
Dialogue: 0,0:00:24.38,0:00:25.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It is vital
Dialogue: 0,0:00:25.38,0:00:27.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that we have a discussion about this now.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:27.35,0:00:28.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because an important date
Dialogue: 0,0:00:28.62,0:00:30.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is just around the corner.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:30.53,0:00:32.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,One big day to circle on the calendar
Dialogue: 0,0:00:32.33,0:00:33.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when it comes to
Dialogue: 0,0:00:33.26,0:00:34.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a very controversial subject.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:34.66,0:00:36.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The re-authorization of the Patriot Act
Dialogue: 0,0:00:36.51,0:00:37.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and all of the
Dialogue: 0,0:00:37.40,0:00:38.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,controversial provisions therein.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:38.97,0:00:41.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,June 1 they've got to come to an agreement
Dialogue: 0,0:00:41.02,0:00:41.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to re-authorize
Dialogue: 0,0:00:41.86,0:00:43.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or curtail those programs.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:43.59,0:00:45.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yes. Some controversial provisions
Dialogue: 0,0:00:45.56,0:00:47.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,within the Patriot Act
Dialogue: 0,0:00:47.29,0:00:49.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are set to expire on June 1.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:49.10,0:00:50.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So circle that date
Dialogue: 0,0:00:50.56,0:00:52.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on your calendars, everyone.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:52.02,0:00:53.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And while you're at it:
Dialogue: 0,0:00:53.14,0:00:54.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Circle June 2 as well.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:54.80,0:00:56.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because that's Justin Long's birthday.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:56.70,0:00:58.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You all forgot last year...
Dialogue: 0,0:00:58.67,0:01:00.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and he f*cking noticed.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:00.99,0:01:03.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now, over the last couple of years,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:03.90,0:01:05.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you've probably heard a lot about
Dialogue: 0,0:01:05.64,0:01:07.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,strange-sounding programs. Such as:
Dialogue: 0,0:01:07.37,0:01:10.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,X-Keyscore, Muscular, Prism, and Mystic.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:10.53,0:01:12.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Which are, coincidentally, also the names
Dialogue: 0,0:01:12.66,0:01:13.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of some of Florida's
Dialogue: 0,0:01:13.69,0:01:15.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,least popular stripclubs.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:16.25,0:01:17.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Welcome to X-Keyscore!
Dialogue: 0,0:01:17.46,0:01:19.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Our dancers are fully un-redacted
Dialogue: 0,0:01:19.47,0:01:21.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and Tuesday is wing-night!"
Dialogue: 0,0:01:22.72,0:01:24.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But if you don't mind, I would like
Dialogue: 0,0:01:24.75,0:01:26.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to refresh your memory over some of this.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:26.75,0:01:28.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And let's start our focussing on the most
Dialogue: 0,0:01:28.30,0:01:30.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,controversial portion of the Patriot Act
Dialogue: 0,0:01:30.34,0:01:31.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that is up for renewal:
Dialogue: 0,0:01:31.90,0:01:33.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Section 215.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:33.46,0:01:35.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Which, I'm aware, sounds like the name
Dialogue: 0,0:01:35.35,0:01:37.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of an Eastern European boy-band.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:37.85,0:01:39.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"We are Section 215."
Dialogue: 0,0:01:39.39,0:01:41.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Prepare to have your hearts...
Dialogue: 0,0:01:41.25,0:01:42.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,throbbed."
Dialogue: 0,0:01:43.46,0:01:47.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There's the cute one, the bad-boy,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:47.27,0:01:49.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the one who strangled a potato-farmer,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:49.15,0:01:51.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the one without an iron-deficiency.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:51.08,0:01:52.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They're incredible.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:52.62,0:01:56.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But the content of the real Section 215
Dialogue: 0,0:01:56.09,0:01:58.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is actually even more sinister.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:58.52,0:02:00.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's called Section 215.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:00.19,0:02:02.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Nicknamed: the library records provision.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:02.78,0:02:04.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Which allows the government to require
Dialogue: 0,0:02:04.61,0:02:06.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,businesses to hand over records of any
Dialogue: 0,0:02:06.49,0:02:09.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"any tangible things"
Dialogue: 0,0:02:09.25,0:02:10.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,including: books, records, papers,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:10.88,0:02:12.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,documents, and other items.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:12.74,0:02:15.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If that sounds broad, it's because
Dialogue: 0,0:02:15.09,0:02:16.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it was very much written that way.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:16.76,0:02:18.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Section 215 says the government can ask
Dialogue: 0,0:02:18.62,0:02:21.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for "any tangible things" so long as it's
Dialogue: 0,0:02:21.71,0:02:23.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"for an investigation to protect
Dialogue: 0,0:02:23.84,0:02:25.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,against international terrorism".
Dialogue: 0,0:02:25.47,0:02:27.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Which is basically a blank cheque.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:27.22,0:02:28.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's letting a teenager borrow the car,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:28.87,0:02:30.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,under the strict condition that they
Dialogue: 0,0:02:30.67,0:02:33.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,only use it for 'car-related activities'.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:33.04,0:02:35.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Okay, mom and dad, I'm gonna use this
Dialogue: 0,0:02:35.23,0:02:37.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for a hand-job in a Wendy's parking lot,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:37.48,0:02:38.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but that is car-related,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:38.70,0:02:40.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so I think I'm covered."
Dialogue: 0,0:02:41.34,0:02:43.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Section 215 is overseen
Dialogue: 0,0:02:43.14,0:02:44.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,by a secret intelligence-court,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:44.88,0:02:46.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,known as the FISA-court.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:46.46,0:02:48.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And they've interpreted it to mean
Dialogue: 0,0:02:48.12,0:02:49.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the government could basically
Dialogue: 0,0:02:49.26,0:02:50.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,collect and store phone-records for
Dialogue: 0,0:02:50.83,0:02:52.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,every American.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:52.28,0:02:54.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The vast majority of whom, of course,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:54.19,0:02:56.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,have no connection to terrorism.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:56.33,0:02:58.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Unless, Aunt Cheryl has been gravely
Dialogue: 0,0:02:58.81,0:03:00.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,mis-characterizing the activities
Dialogue: 0,0:03:00.46,0:03:01.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of her needle-point club.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:01.98,0:03:03.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"It's a sleeper-cell,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:03.07,0:03:04.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,isn't is, Aunt Cheryl?"
Dialogue: 0,0:03:04.86,0:03:06.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"You will hang for this, Aunt Cheryl.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:06.76,0:03:08.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You're a traiter and a terrible aunt.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:08.74,0:03:10.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Not in that order."
Dialogue: 0,0:03:11.70,0:03:14.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now, the government will point out
Dialogue: 0,0:03:14.26,0:03:17.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that under 215, they hold phone-records,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:17.20,0:03:19.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and not the calls themselves.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:19.32,0:03:24.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What the intelligence-community is doing,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:24.28,0:03:27.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is looking at phone-numbers,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:29.30,0:03:30.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and durations of calls,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:30.94,0:03:33.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they are not looking at peoples names,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:33.72,0:03:36.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and they are not looking at content.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:36.64,0:03:39.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yes, but that's not entirely reassuring.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:39.87,0:03:41.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because you can extrapolate a lot
Dialogue: 0,0:03:41.62,0:03:43.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from that information.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:43.11,0:03:45.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If they knew that you'd called your ex
Dialogue: 0,0:03:45.43,0:03:48.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,12 times last night, between 1 and 4 AM,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:48.41,0:03:50.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for a duration of 15 minutes each time,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:50.73,0:03:52.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they can be fairly sure that you left
Dialogue: 0,0:03:52.72,0:03:54.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,some pretty pathetic voice-mails.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:54.75,0:03:55.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"I don't care
Dialogue: 0,0:03:55.79,0:03:57.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,whose monitoring this call, Vicky."
Dialogue: 0,0:03:57.34,0:03:58.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"We should be together!"
Dialogue: 0,0:03:58.52,0:04:00.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Pick up the phone, dammit!
Dialogue: 0,0:04:00.20,0:04:02.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm a human being, not an animal!"
Dialogue: 0,0:04:03.58,0:04:05.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now, the Patriot-act was written
Dialogue: 0,0:04:05.32,0:04:07.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,just after 9-11.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:07.02,0:04:08.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And for years it was extended
Dialogue: 0,0:04:08.44,0:04:09.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and re-authorized
Dialogue: 0,0:04:09.59,0:04:11.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with barely a passing thought.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:11.44,0:04:13.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In fact, it became so routine,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:13.19,0:04:16.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that when it was extended in 2011,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:16.00,0:04:17.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,one newscast just tacked it
Dialogue: 0,0:04:17.72,0:04:19.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,onto the end of a report
Dialogue: 0,0:04:19.17,0:04:20.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about a Presidential trip abroad.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:20.96,0:04:22.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Chip Reid. CBS-news.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:22.28,0:04:23.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Travelling with the President
Dialogue: 0,0:04:23.66,0:04:25.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in Deauville, France.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:25.08,0:04:26.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Also in France, by the way,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:26.65,0:04:28.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,President Obama signed in a law,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:28.25,0:04:29.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,4-year extension
Dialogue: 0,0:04:29.63,0:04:32.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of the terrorism fighting Patriot-Act.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:32.13,0:04:34.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Also in France, by the way?
Dialogue: 0,0:04:34.90,0:04:35.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,By the way?
Dialogue: 0,0:04:35.82,0:04:36.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He threw that in,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:36.67,0:04:38.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like a mother telling her grown daughter
Dialogue: 0,0:04:38.66,0:04:40.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that her childhood pet just died.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:40.54,0:04:42.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Oh, nice talking to you, sweety.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:42.25,0:04:44.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Also, by the way, Mr. Peppers is dead.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:44.11,0:04:45.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,See you at Christmas." BANG
Dialogue: 0,0:04:47.02,0:04:48.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But all of that,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:48.36,0:04:50.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was before the public was made aware
Dialogue: 0,0:04:50.49,0:04:52.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of what the government's capabilities
Dialogue: 0,0:04:52.08,0:04:53.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,actually were.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:53.48,0:04:57.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,'Cause that all ended in June of 2013.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:57.14,0:04:58.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Edward Snowden has just
Dialogue: 0,0:04:58.34,0:05:00.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,taken responsibility for one of the
Dialogue: 0,0:05:00.05,0:05:02.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,biggest government leaks in US history.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:02.12,0:05:03.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We learned that the government has
Dialogue: 0,0:05:03.74,0:05:04.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the capacity to track
Dialogue: 0,0:05:04.75,0:05:06.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,virtually every American phone-call
Dialogue: 0,0:05:06.59,0:05:08.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and to scoop up impossibly vast
Dialogue: 0,0:05:08.45,0:05:10.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,quantities of data across the internet.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:10.49,0:05:12.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Revelations that the NSA eavesdropped
Dialogue: 0,0:05:12.77,0:05:13.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on world leaders.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:13.86,0:05:15.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If you've ever been to the Bahamas,
Dialogue: 0,0:05:15.20,0:05:17.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the NSA could've recorded your phone-calls
Dialogue: 0,0:05:17.20,0:05:19.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and stored them for up to a month.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:19.50,0:05:21.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,All that information was exposed
Dialogue: 0,0:05:21.67,0:05:22.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,by Edward Snowden.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:22.77,0:05:24.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And it is still kind of incredible,
Dialogue: 0,0:05:24.56,0:05:26.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that a 29-year-old contractor
Dialogue: 0,0:05:26.21,0:05:28.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was able to steal top-secret documents
Dialogue: 0,0:05:28.19,0:05:29.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from an organization
Dialogue: 0,0:05:29.58,0:05:31.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that LITERALLY has the word 'security'
Dialogue: 0,0:05:31.99,0:05:33.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in it's name.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:33.78,0:05:35.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Clearly, that was not great for them.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:35.56,0:05:37.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The only place where it should be THAT
Dialogue: 0,0:05:37.37,0:05:39.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,easy for employees in their 20ies to steal
Dialogue: 0,0:05:39.39,0:05:40.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is a Lid store.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:41.51,0:05:43.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Dude, you sure I should take this?"
Dialogue: 0,0:05:43.24,0:05:45.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Relax, dude, it's a Miami Marlins-cap,
Dialogue: 0,0:05:45.21,0:05:46.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we're not exactly selling
Dialogue: 0,0:05:46.46,0:05:47.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Fabergé eggs here."
Dialogue: 0,0:05:49.26,0:05:51.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It is still unclear,
Dialogue: 0,0:05:51.22,0:05:52.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,exactly how many documents
Dialogue: 0,0:05:52.94,0:05:54.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Edward Snowden stole.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:54.47,0:05:55.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Although he is consistently trying
Dialogue: 0,0:05:55.86,0:05:57.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to re-assure people that he put them
Dialogue: 0,0:05:57.27,0:05:58.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in good hands.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:58.78,0:06:01.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Honestly, I don't want to be the person
Dialogue: 0,0:06:01.22,0:06:03.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,making the decisions on what should
Dialogue: 0,0:06:03.08,0:06:04.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,be public and what shouldn't.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:04.58,0:06:05.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Which is why
Dialogue: 0,0:06:05.48,0:06:08.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,rather than publishing these on my own
Dialogue: 0,0:06:08.07,0:06:10.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or putting them out openly,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:10.45,0:06:12.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm running them through journalists.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:12.28,0:06:13.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Well, that sounds great.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:13.94,0:06:15.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But of course it's not a fail-safe plan.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:15.89,0:06:17.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,As was proven when the New York Times
Dialogue: 0,0:06:17.44,0:06:19.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,published this slide,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:19.08,0:06:20.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but did such a sloppy job
Dialogue: 0,0:06:20.35,0:06:22.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of blocking out redacted information,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:22.15,0:06:23.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that some people were able to read
Dialogue: 0,0:06:23.80,0:06:25.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the information behind that black bar,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:25.74,0:06:27.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which concerned how the US was monitoring
Dialogue: 0,0:06:27.69,0:06:28.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Al Qaida in Mosul.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:28.84,0:06:31.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,A group now known as ISIS.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:31.26,0:06:32.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So essentially,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:32.23,0:06:33.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a national security secret was leaked,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:33.98,0:06:35.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because no-one at the Times
Dialogue: 0,0:06:35.24,0:06:37.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,knows how to use Microsoft Paint.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:39.06,0:06:41.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And look, you can think
Dialogue: 0,0:06:41.29,0:06:43.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that Snowden did the wrong thing, or
Dialogue: 0,0:06:43.59,0:06:44.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,did it in the wrong way.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:44.84,0:06:46.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But the fact is:
Dialogue: 0,0:06:46.07,0:06:47.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we have this information now,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:47.44,0:06:49.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and we no longer get the luxury
Dialogue: 0,0:06:49.02,0:06:50.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of pleading ignorance.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:50.90,0:06:52.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's like you can't go to Sea World
Dialogue: 0,0:06:52.68,0:06:54.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and pretend that Shamu's happy anymore.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:54.77,0:06:56.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When we now know
Dialogue: 0,0:06:56.28,0:06:58.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,at least half the water in her tank
Dialogue: 0,0:06:58.01,0:06:59.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is whale-tears.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:59.49,0:07:01.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We know that now.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:01.15,0:07:03.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You can't un-know that information.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:04.05,0:07:06.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So you have to bear that in mind.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:06.33,0:07:07.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But here's the thing:
Dialogue: 0,0:07:07.76,0:07:09.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's now 2 years later,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:09.27,0:07:10.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it seems like we've kind of
Dialogue: 0,0:07:10.87,0:07:12.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,forgotten to have a debate
Dialogue: 0,0:07:12.12,0:07:14.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,over the content of what Snowden leaked.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:14.10,0:07:15.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,A recent Pew-report found that nearly
Dialogue: 0,0:07:15.97,0:07:17.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,half of Americans say that they're
Dialogue: 0,0:07:17.86,0:07:19.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,'not very concerned'
Dialogue: 0,0:07:19.10,0:07:20.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or 'not at all concerned'
Dialogue: 0,0:07:20.87,0:07:22.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about government surveillance.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:22.46,0:07:23.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Which is fine.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:23.53,0:07:25.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If that's an informed opinion.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:25.32,0:07:26.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But I'm not sure that it is.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:26.92,0:07:28.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because we actually sent a camera-crew
Dialogue: 0,0:07:28.79,0:07:30.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to Times Square to ask
Dialogue: 0,0:07:30.48,0:07:32.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,some random passers by
Dialogue: 0,0:07:32.16,0:07:33.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who Edward Snowden was
Dialogue: 0,0:07:33.36,0:07:34.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and what he did.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:34.54,0:07:36.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And there are the responses that we got.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:36.68,0:07:38.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I have no idea who Edward Snowden is.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:38.82,0:07:41.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Have no idea who Edward Snowden is.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:41.81,0:07:44.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I've heard the name, I just can't picture,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:44.33,0:07:46.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,think right now exactly what it is.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:46.63,0:07:48.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Edward Snowden...
Dialogue: 0,0:07:48.56,0:07:50.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,No. I do not.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:50.45,0:07:51.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Just for the record,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:51.90,0:07:53.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that wasn't cherry picking.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:53.48,0:07:55.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That was entirely reflective
Dialogue: 0,0:07:55.36,0:07:56.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of everyone we spoke to.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:56.58,0:07:57.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Although, to be fair:
Dialogue: 0,0:07:57.59,0:07:59.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,some people did remember his name,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:59.26,0:08:01.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they just couldn't remember why.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:01.32,0:08:04.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He sold some information to people.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:04.05,0:08:06.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He revealed some information
Dialogue: 0,0:08:06.27,0:08:08.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that shouldn't have been revealed.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:08.97,0:08:10.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think from what I remember is
Dialogue: 0,0:08:10.57,0:08:12.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the information that he shared
Dialogue: 0,0:08:12.03,0:08:14.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was detrimental to our military secrets?
Dialogue: 0,0:08:14.27,0:08:16.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And keeping our soldiers and our country
Dialogue: 0,0:08:16.21,0:08:16.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,safe?
Dialogue: 0,0:08:16.96,0:08:19.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He leaked documents what the US Army's
Dialogue: 0,0:08:19.34,0:08:20.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,operations in Iraq.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:20.80,0:08:22.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Edward Snowden revealed a bunch of
Dialogue: 0,0:08:22.83,0:08:24.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of secrets, I guess, or information
Dialogue: 0,0:08:24.98,0:08:26.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,into Wiki, Wikileaks?
Dialogue: 0,0:08:26.38,0:08:27.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Edward Snowden leaked...
Dialogue: 0,0:08:27.89,0:08:29.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Ah, he's in charge of Wikileaks?
Dialogue: 0,0:08:29.44,0:08:30.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Edward Snowden revealed a lot of
Dialogue: 0,0:08:30.94,0:08:32.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,documents through Wikileaks...?
Dialogue: 0,0:08:34.99,0:08:36.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Okay, so here's the thing:
Dialogue: 0,0:08:36.29,0:08:38.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Edward Snowden is NOT the Wikileaks guy.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:38.70,0:08:41.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The Wikileaks guy is Julian Assange.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:41.20,0:08:42.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And you do not want
Dialogue: 0,0:08:42.67,0:08:43.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to be confused with him.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:43.82,0:08:45.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Partly because he was far less careful
Dialogue: 0,0:08:45.65,0:08:47.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,than Snowden in what he released,
Dialogue: 0,0:08:47.46,0:08:48.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and how.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:48.39,0:08:49.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And partly because he resembles
Dialogue: 0,0:08:49.90,0:08:51.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a sandwich-bag full of biscuit-dough
Dialogue: 0,0:08:51.63,0:08:53.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,wearing a Stevie Nicks-wig.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:54.14,0:08:56.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And that is, that is ciritical.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:56.55,0:08:58.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Julian Assange is not a like-able man.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:58.96,0:09:01.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Even Benedict Cumberbatch could not
Dialogue: 0,0:09:01.56,0:09:03.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,make him like-able.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:03.31,0:09:05.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He's un-Cumberbatch-able.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:06.11,0:09:07.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That was supposed to be
Dialogue: 0,0:09:07.27,0:09:08.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,physically impossible.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:09.44,0:09:10.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But I don't blame people
Dialogue: 0,0:09:10.64,0:09:11.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for being confused.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:11.85,0:09:13.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We've been looking at this story
Dialogue: 0,0:09:13.12,0:09:14.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for the last 2 weeks,
Dialogue: 0,0:09:14.56,0:09:17.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it is hard to get your head around.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:17.19,0:09:18.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Not just because there are so many
Dialogue: 0,0:09:18.81,0:09:20.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,complicated programs to keep track of,
Dialogue: 0,0:09:20.77,0:09:21.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but also because
Dialogue: 0,0:09:21.96,0:09:23.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there are no easy answers here.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:23.79,0:09:26.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We all naturally want perfect privacy,
Dialogue: 0,0:09:26.32,0:09:28.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and perfect safety.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:28.54,0:09:31.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But those 2 things cannot coexist.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:31.17,0:09:32.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's like how you can't have
Dialogue: 0,0:09:32.56,0:09:34.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a badass pet falcon...
Dialogue: 0,0:09:34.54,0:09:37.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and an adorable pet vole named Herbert.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:39.14,0:09:41.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Either you have to lose one of them,
Dialogue: 0,0:09:41.40,0:09:43.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which obviously you don't want to do.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:43.31,0:09:45.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Or you have to accept some reasonable
Dialogue: 0,0:09:45.16,0:09:46.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,restrictions on both of them.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:47.43,0:09:49.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now to be fair, the NSA will argue
Dialogue: 0,0:09:49.92,0:09:52.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that just because they CAN do something
Dialogue: 0,0:09:52.09,0:09:53.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,doesn't mean they DO do it.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:53.61,0:09:55.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And, that there are restrictions
Dialogue: 0,0:09:55.42,0:09:57.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on their operations,
Dialogue: 0,0:09:57.04,0:09:58.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,such as the FISA-court,
Dialogue: 0,0:09:58.37,0:10:00.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which must approve requests for
Dialogue: 0,0:10:00.59,0:10:01.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,foreign surveillance.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:01.69,0:10:02.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:02.32,0:10:04.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In 34 years, that court has approved
Dialogue: 0,0:10:04.78,0:10:07.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,over 35000 applications,
Dialogue: 0,0:10:07.12,0:10:09.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and only rejected 12.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:10.10,0:10:12.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yes. Much like Robert Durst's second wife.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:12.68,0:10:16.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The FISA-court is alarmingly accepting.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:16.16,0:10:18.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Listen, Robert"
Dialogue: 0,0:10:18.07,0:10:20.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"I'm not gonna ask you too many questions.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:20.40,0:10:22.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm just gonna give you the benefit of a
Dialogue: 0,0:10:22.46,0:10:24.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,doubt that you clearly don't deserve."
Dialogue: 0,0:10:24.30,0:10:27.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,At least tell him to blink and burp less.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:29.37,0:10:31.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The burping might be the most troubling
Dialogue: 0,0:10:31.98,0:10:33.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,thing about that show.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:35.40,0:10:38.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, so maybe it's time for us to talk.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:38.05,0:10:39.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,About where the limits should be.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:39.96,0:10:41.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And the best place to start would be
Dialogue: 0,0:10:41.98,0:10:43.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Section 215.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:43.84,0:10:45.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Not just because it's the easiest one
Dialogue: 0,0:10:45.50,0:10:46.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to understand,
Dialogue: 0,0:10:46.51,0:10:47.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but there is wide-spread agreement
Dialogue: 0,0:10:47.97,0:10:49.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it needs to be reformed.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:49.63,0:10:51.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,From the President, to Ted Cruz,
Dialogue: 0,0:10:51.60,0:10:54.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to both the ACLU and the NRA,
Dialogue: 0,0:10:54.47,0:10:55.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to even the guy
Dialogue: 0,0:10:55.40,0:10:57.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who wrote the thing in the first place.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:57.42,0:10:58.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was the principal author
Dialogue: 0,0:10:58.63,0:10:59.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of the Patriot Act.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:59.83,0:11:03.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I can say, that without qualification
Dialogue: 0,0:11:03.46,0:11:05.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Congress never did intend to allow
Dialogue: 0,0:11:05.97,0:11:07.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,bulk-collections
Dialogue: 0,0:11:07.16,0:11:09.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when it passed Section 215.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:09.27,0:11:11.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And no fair reading of the text
Dialogue: 0,0:11:11.65,0:11:13.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,would allow for this program.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:13.89,0:11:15.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Think about that.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:15.15,0:11:16.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He was the author.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:16.52,0:11:18.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's the legislative equivalent
Dialogue: 0,0:11:18.21,0:11:19.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of Lewis Carroll
Dialogue: 0,0:11:19.12,0:11:20.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,seeing the tea-cups ride at Disney Land
Dialogue: 0,0:11:20.98,0:11:21.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and saying:
Dialogue: 0,0:11:21.78,0:11:23.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"This has got to be reined in.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:23.61,0:11:25.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,No fair reading of my text
Dialogue: 0,0:11:25.18,0:11:26.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,would allow for this ride."
Dialogue: 0,0:11:27.08,0:11:28.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"You've turned my perfectly nice tale
Dialogue: 0,0:11:28.85,0:11:30.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of psychedelic paedofilia
Dialogue: 0,0:11:30.24,0:11:32.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,into a garish vomitorium."
Dialogue: 0,0:11:34.11,0:11:35.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"This is not what I wanted!"
Dialogue: 0,0:11:37.28,0:11:39.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And even the NSA has said
Dialogue: 0,0:11:39.06,0:11:41.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that the number of terror-plots in the US
Dialogue: 0,0:11:41.38,0:11:42.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that the Section 215
Dialogue: 0,0:11:42.44,0:11:44.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,telephone-records program has disrupted...
Dialogue: 0,0:11:44.67,0:11:46.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,...is 1.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:46.05,0:11:47.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And it's worth noting:
Dialogue: 0,0:11:47.38,0:11:49.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that one particular plot
Dialogue: 0,0:11:49.05,0:11:51.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,involved a cabdriver in San Diego
Dialogue: 0,0:11:51.42,0:11:54.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who gave $8500 to a terror-group.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:54.43,0:11:56.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And that is the shittiest terrorist-plot
Dialogue: 0,0:11:56.86,0:11:57.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I've ever seen.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:57.92,0:11:59.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Other than the plot of
Dialogue: 0,0:11:59.33,0:12:01.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,A Good Day To Die Hard.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:02.18,0:12:04.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But here's the big problem here:
Dialogue: 0,0:12:04.38,0:12:06.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If we let Section 215 get renewed
Dialogue: 0,0:12:06.63,0:12:07.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in it's current form
Dialogue: 0,0:12:07.95,0:12:09.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,without serious public debate
Dialogue: 0,0:12:09.42,0:12:10.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we're in trouble.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:10.58,0:12:11.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because Section 215
Dialogue: 0,0:12:11.67,0:12:13.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is the canary in the coal-mine.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:13.18,0:12:14.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If we cannot fix that
Dialogue: 0,0:12:14.34,0:12:16.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we're not gonna fix any of them.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:16.35,0:12:18.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And the public debate so far
Dialogue: 0,0:12:18.56,0:12:20.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,has been absolutely pathetic.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:20.89,0:12:21.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,A year ago
Dialogue: 0,0:12:21.67,0:12:22.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a former congresswoman was
Dialogue: 0,0:12:22.91,0:12:25.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,discussing the 215 program on the news.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:25.82,0:12:27.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Watch wat happened.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:27.40,0:12:29.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This vast collection of data
Dialogue: 0,0:12:29.15,0:12:31.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is not that useful
Dialogue: 0,0:12:31.53,0:12:34.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and infringes substantially
Dialogue: 0,0:12:34.41,0:12:35.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on personal privacy.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:35.50,0:12:37.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think at this point we should
Dialogue: 0,0:12:37.60,0:12:41.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,seriously consider not continuing...
Dialogue: 0,0:12:41.92,0:12:44.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Congress woman Harmen, let me interru..
Dialogue: 0,0:12:44.79,0:12:47.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Let me interrupt you just for one moment.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:47.11,0:12:48.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We've got some breaking news out of Miami.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:48.61,0:12:50.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Stand by if you will.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:50.41,0:12:51.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Right now in Miami
Dialogue: 0,0:12:51.30,0:12:52.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Justin Bieber
Dialogue: 0,0:12:52.49,0:12:54.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,has been arrested on a number of charges.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:54.60,0:12:57.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The judge is reading the charges
Dialogue: 0,0:12:57.10,0:12:58.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,including resisting arrest
Dialogue: 0,0:12:58.84,0:13:00.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and driving under the influence.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:00.49,0:13:01.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He's appearing now before the judge
Dialogue: 0,0:13:01.90,0:13:02.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for his bond-hearing.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:02.79,0:13:03.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Let's watch.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:07.68,0:13:09.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Actually, you know what?
Dialogue: 0,0:13:09.02,0:13:11.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Bad news, we're gonna have to interrupt
Dialogue: 0,0:13:11.01,0:13:12.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,your interruption of the Bieber news
Dialogue: 0,0:13:12.72,0:13:14.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for a new interruption.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:14.11,0:13:16.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This time featuring a YouTube video of a
Dialogue: 0,0:13:16.18,0:13:17.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,tortoise having sex with a plastic clog.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:17.99,0:13:19.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Let's watch.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:30.56,0:13:33.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That. Is essentially the current tone
Dialogue: 0,0:13:33.08,0:13:34.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of this vitally important debate.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:38.48,0:13:39.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And again:
Dialogue: 0,0:13:39.32,0:13:40.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm not saying
Dialogue: 0,0:13:40.51,0:13:42.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this is an easy conversation.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:42.50,0:13:43.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But we have to have it.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:43.91,0:13:45.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I know this is confusing.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:45.18,0:13:46.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And unfortunately the most
Dialogue: 0,0:13:46.46,0:13:47.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,obvious person to talk to
Dialogue: 0,0:13:47.89,0:13:49.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about this is Edward Snowden.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:49.90,0:13:51.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But he currently lives in Russia.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:51.68,0:13:53.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Meaning: if you wanted to ask him
Dialogue: 0,0:13:53.21,0:13:54.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about any of these issues
Dialogue: 0,0:13:54.33,0:13:55.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you'd have to fly
Dialogue: 0,0:13:55.18,0:13:56.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,all the way there to do it.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:56.65,0:13:58.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And it is not a pleasant flight.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:59.62,0:14:01.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And the reason I know that...
Dialogue: 0,0:14:01.92,0:14:03.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is that last week, I went to Russia
Dialogue: 0,0:14:03.96,0:14:05.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to speak to Edward Snowden.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:06.19,0:14:07.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And this is what happened.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:09.93,0:14:13.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yes, last week I spent 48 paranoid hours
Dialogue: 0,0:14:13.16,0:14:14.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in Moscow.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:14.37,0:14:15.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Arguably the last place on earth
Dialogue: 0,0:14:15.91,0:14:16.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where you can find
Dialogue: 0,0:14:16.82,0:14:19.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,an overweight Josef Stalin impersonator
Dialogue: 0,0:14:19.21,0:14:21.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,arguing with an unconvincing fake Lenin.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:22.40,0:14:23.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And after experiencing
Dialogue: 0,0:14:23.48,0:14:25.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Russia's famously warm hospitality
Dialogue: 0,0:14:25.94,0:14:27.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I went to meet Edward Snowden.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:27.92,0:14:30.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Who is supposed to show up in this room
Dialogue: 0,0:14:30.02,0:14:31.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,at noon.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:31.10,0:14:32.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,However, after 5 minutes after
Dialogue: 0,0:14:32.66,0:14:34.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the interview was scheduled to begin
Dialogue: 0,0:14:34.56,0:14:36.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I had a troubling thought.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:36.70,0:14:38.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I don't know.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:39.03,0:14:40.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Do you think he's coming?
Dialogue: 0,0:14:42.44,0:14:44.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,'Cause my argument is:
Dialogue: 0,0:14:40.43,0:14:41.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yeah, he's coming.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:44.14,0:14:45.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Why would he?
Dialogue: 0,0:14:45.77,0:14:47.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When you think about it.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:49.04,0:14:50.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I got 2000 roebels
Dialogue: 0,0:14:50.92,0:14:53.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that says he doesn't make it.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:53.16,0:14:55.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Without understanding how much that is.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:00.36,0:15:01.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,All I'm saying is...
Dialogue: 0,0:15:01.82,0:15:04.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,...a 10-hour flight for an empty chair?
Dialogue: 0,0:15:04.65,0:15:06.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm gonna lose my shit.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:10.34,0:15:12.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It turns out it may be a bit of a problem
Dialogue: 0,0:15:12.39,0:15:14.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because our Russian producer
Dialogue: 0,0:15:14.65,0:15:18.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,booked us in a room directly overlooking
Dialogue: 0,0:15:18.58,0:15:21.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the old KGB-building.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:21.30,0:15:22.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And the home
Dialogue: 0,0:15:22.15,0:15:25.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of the current Federal Security Bureau.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:25.17,0:15:26.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And we've just been told...
Dialogue: 0,0:15:26.72,0:15:28.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,...they know we're here.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:28.34,0:15:30.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So uhm...
Dialogue: 0,0:15:30.04,0:15:32.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So that happened.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:37.54,0:15:40.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Uhm, just if the Russian...
Dialogue: 0,0:15:40.64,0:15:42.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,...Russian KGB is listening:
Dialogue: 0,0:15:42.02,0:15:43.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We'll ring the fire-alarm
Dialogue: 0,0:15:43.22,0:15:44.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if he's not coming.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:47.57,0:15:48.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Oh shit.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:49.70,0:15:51.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Oh God.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:57.73,0:15:58.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So sorry for the delay.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:58.90,0:16:00.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's fine, don't worry about it.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:00.46,0:16:02.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,HOLY SHIT.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:02.38,0:16:04.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He actually came.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:04.45,0:16:06.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Edward f*cking Snowden.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:06.68,0:16:09.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The most famous hero and/or traitor
Dialogue: 0,0:16:09.66,0:16:11.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in recent American history!
Dialogue: 0,0:16:11.72,0:16:13.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I've started with a question
Dialogue: 0,0:16:13.32,0:16:15.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,designed to test his loyalties.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:16.09,0:16:18.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,How much do you miss America?
Dialogue: 0,0:16:18.19,0:16:21.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know, my country is something
Dialogue: 0,0:16:21.66,0:16:24.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that travels with me, you know.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:24.82,0:16:26.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's not just a geogra...
Dialogue: 0,0:16:26.50,0:16:28.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's a way too complicated answer.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:28.31,0:16:29.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The answer is: I miss it a lot.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:29.82,0:16:31.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's the greatest country in the world.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:31.70,0:16:32.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I do miss my country.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:32.70,0:16:33.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I do miss my home.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:33.57,0:16:34.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I do miss my family.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:34.55,0:16:37.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Do you miss hot pockets?
Dialogue: 0,0:16:37.22,0:16:38.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yes.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:38.72,0:16:41.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I miss hot pockets. Very much.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:41.30,0:16:43.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Okay. The entire state of Florida?
Dialogue: 0,0:16:51.94,0:16:53.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Let's just let that silence
Dialogue: 0,0:16:53.25,0:16:54.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,hang in the air.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:55.40,0:16:57.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Truck Nuts?
Dialogue: 0,0:16:57.24,0:16:58.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Do you miss Truck Nuts?
Dialogue: 0,0:16:58.39,0:16:59.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I don't know what they are.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:59.68,0:17:01.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Lucky for you, Edward...
Dialogue: 0,0:17:05.12,0:17:07.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Not just truck nuts.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:07.02,0:17:09.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Stars and stripes Truck Nuts.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:09.49,0:17:11.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That is 2 balls of liberty
Dialogue: 0,0:17:11.72,0:17:13.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in a freedom sack.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:13.14,0:17:14.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You really thought ahead.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:14.61,0:17:17.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Well, at least one of us did.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:17.08,0:17:20.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know, 'cause of the... uhm...
Dialogue: 0,0:17:20.08,0:17:22.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the quandary... the...
Dialogue: 0,0:17:22.23,0:17:25.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Kafka-esque nightmare that you're in.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:25.42,0:17:28.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Okay. Let's dive in.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:28.04,0:17:30.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Why did you do this?
Dialogue: 0,0:17:30.16,0:17:31.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The NSA has
Dialogue: 0,0:17:31.58,0:17:33.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the greatest surveillance capabilities
Dialogue: 0,0:17:33.90,0:17:36.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that we've ever seen in history.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:36.47,0:17:38.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now, what they will argue
Dialogue: 0,0:17:38.64,0:17:40.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is that they don't use this
Dialogue: 0,0:17:40.75,0:17:43.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for nefarious purposes
Dialogue: 0,0:17:43.22,0:17:45.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,against American citizens.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:45.38,0:17:47.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In some ways that's true.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:47.76,0:17:50.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But the real problem is that
Dialogue: 0,0:17:50.43,0:17:52.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they're using these capabilities
Dialogue: 0,0:17:52.69,0:17:54.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to make us vulnerable to them
Dialogue: 0,0:17:54.62,0:17:56.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then saying:
Dialogue: 0,0:17:56.72,0:17:58.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"While I have a gun pointed at your head
Dialogue: 0,0:17:58.67,0:18:00.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm not going to pull the trigger."
Dialogue: 0,0:18:00.39,0:18:01.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Trust me."
Dialogue: 0,0:18:01.52,0:18:04.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, what does the NSA you want look like?
Dialogue: 0,0:18:04.47,0:18:08.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because you applied for a job at the NSA.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:08.05,0:18:09.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So you clearly see an inherent value
Dialogue: 0,0:18:09.86,0:18:11.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in that shadowy organization.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:11.97,0:18:15.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I worked with mass-surveillance systems
Dialogue: 0,0:18:15.00,0:18:17.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,against Chinese hackers.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:17.75,0:18:19.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I saw that, you know
Dialogue: 0,0:18:19.04,0:18:20.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,these things do have some purpose.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:20.34,0:18:21.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And you want your spies
Dialogue: 0,0:18:21.50,0:18:22.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to be good at spying.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:22.98,0:18:23.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,To be fair.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:23.81,0:18:24.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Right.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:24.53,0:18:26.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What you don't want is
Dialogue: 0,0:18:26.17,0:18:28.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you don't want them spying inside
Dialogue: 0,0:18:28.09,0:18:29.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,their own country.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:29.25,0:18:32.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Spies are great when they're on our side.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:32.68,0:18:33.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But we can never forget
Dialogue: 0,0:18:33.79,0:18:35.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that they're incredibly powerful
Dialogue: 0,0:18:35.34,0:18:36.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and incredibly dangerous.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:36.57,0:18:38.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And if they're off the leash...
Dialogue: 0,0:18:38.04,0:18:39.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,...they can end up coming after us.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:39.74,0:18:40.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But just to be clear:
Dialogue: 0,0:18:40.77,0:18:42.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we're talking about 2 different things.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:42.27,0:18:43.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Domestic surveillance
Dialogue: 0,0:18:43.23,0:18:44.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and foreign surveillance.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:44.90,0:18:45.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,'Cause domestic surveillance
Dialogue: 0,0:18:45.95,0:18:48.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Americans give some of a shit about.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:48.28,0:18:50.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Foreign surveillance...
Dialogue: 0,0:18:50.29,0:18:52.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,...they don't give any remote shit about.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:52.68,0:18:53.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Well the second question is:
Dialogue: 0,0:18:53.94,0:18:56.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When we talk about foreign surveillance
Dialogue: 0,0:18:56.08,0:18:58.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are we applying it in ways that are
Dialogue: 0,0:18:58.28,0:18:59.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,beneficial...
Dialogue: 0,0:18:59.13,0:19:00.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,No-one cares.
Dialogue: 0,0:19:00.18,0:19:00.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In terms...
Dialogue: 0,0:19:00.92,0:19:02.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They don't give a shit.
Dialogue: 0,0:19:02.22,0:19:04.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We spied on UNICEF, the children's fund.
Dialogue: 0,0:19:04.80,0:19:06.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Sure.
Dialogue: 0,0:19:06.09,0:19:09.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We spied on lawyers negotiating...
Dialogue: 0,0:19:09.57,0:19:13.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What was UNICEF doing?
Dialogue: 0,0:19:13.34,0:19:14.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I mean, that's the question there.
Dialogue: 0,0:19:14.92,0:19:16.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Isn't it?
Dialogue: 0,0:19:16.84,0:19:22.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The question is:
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Are these projects valuable?
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Are we going to be safer when we're spying
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on UNICEF and lawyers who are talking about
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the price of shrimp and clove cigarettes.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I don't think people say that's good.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think they'll say:
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I definitely don't care.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Americans do not give a shit.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think you're right.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,About foreign surveillance.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What some people do care about
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is whether Snowden considered
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the adverse consequences of leaking
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so much information at once.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,How many of those documents
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,have you actually read.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I've evaluated all the documents
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that are in the archive.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You've read every single one?
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I do understand what I've turned over.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But there's a difference between
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,understanding what's in the documents
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and reading what's in the documents.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I recognized the concern.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,'Cause when you're handing over
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,thousands of NSA documents,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the last thing you want to do
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is read them.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think it's fair to be concerned about,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,'did this person do enough?
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,were they careful enough?'
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Especially when you're handling material
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like we know you are handling.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Well, in my defense:
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm not handling anything anymore.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's been passed to the journalists,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and they're using extraordinary
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,security measures that this is reported
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the most responsible way.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But, those are journalists
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with a lower technical skill-set than you.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's true,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but then they do understand
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,just like you and I do.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Just how important it
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to get this right.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So the New York Times took a slide,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,didn't redact it properly...
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and...
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the end it was possible
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for people to see that something
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was being used in Mosul.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,On Al'Qaida.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That is a problem.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Well, that's a f*ck-up.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It is a f*ck-up.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And these things do happen in reporting.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In journalism we have to accept
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that some mistakes will be made.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is a fundamental concept of liberty.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Right.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But you have to own that then.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You're giving documents with imformation
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you know could be harmful...
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which could get out there.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yes.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If people act in bad faith.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You're not even talking about bad faith.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You're talking about incompetents.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We are.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But you will never be
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,completely free from risk,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if you're free.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The only time you can be free from risk
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is when you're in prison.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,While the risks were significant,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Snowden himself has made it clear.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He feels the rewards have been worth it.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You've said in you letters to Brasil:
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"I was motivated by a believe that
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the citizens of the world deserve to
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,understand the system in which they live.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,My greatest fear was that no-one
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,would listen to my warning.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Never have I been so glad
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to have been so wrong."
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,How did that feel?
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was initially terrified that this
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was going to be a 3 day story,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,everybody was going to forget about it.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But when I saw that...
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,everybody around the world said:
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Wow, this is a problem.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We have to do something about this",
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it felt like vindication.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Even in America?
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Even in America.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I think we're seeing
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,something amazing.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Which is if you ask... the American people
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to make tough decisions,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to confront tough issues,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to think about hard problems...
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they'll actually surprise you.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Okay.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Here's the problem:
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I did ask some Americans.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And, boy did it surprise me.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I have no idea who Edward Snowden is.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You've never heard of Edward Snowden?
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,No.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I have no idea who Edward Snowden is.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I've heard the name...
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I just can't picture and think right now
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,exactly who it is.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Well, he's... uhm...
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He sold some information to people.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He revealed some information
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that shouldn't have been revealed.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Edward Snowden revealed a lot of documents
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,through Wikileaks.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Edward Snowden revealed a bunch
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of secrets, I guess...
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or information into Wikileaks.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Edward Snowden leaked... uhm...
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he's in charge of Wikileaks.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm in charge of Wikileaks.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Not ideal.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I guess, on the plus side...
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you might be able to go home.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,'Cause it seems like no-one knows
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who the f*ck you are.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Or what the f*ck you did.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We can't except everybody to be uniformly
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,informed.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, did you do this to solve a problem?
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I did this to give the American people
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a chance to decide for themselves
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the kind of government they want to have.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That is a conversation that I think that
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the American people deserve to decide.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There is no doubt that it is
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a critical conversation.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But is it a conversation that we have
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the capacity to have?
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because it's so complicated.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We don't fundamentally understand it.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It is a challenging conversation.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I mean, it's difficult for most people
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to even conceptualize.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The problem is,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the internet is massively complex,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and so much of it is invisible.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Service providers, technicians, engineers,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the phonenumbers....
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Let me stop you right there, Edward.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,'Cause this is the whole problem.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Right.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is the whole problem.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I just, I glaze over.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,'Cause it's like the IT-guy
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,comes into your office,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and you go: "Ooh shit."
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In fairness...
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Ooh shit, don't teach me anything."
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"I don't want to learn."
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"You smell like canned soup."
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's a real challenge to figure out
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,how do we communicate
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,things that require sort of years and years
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of technical understanding.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And compress that into seconds of speech.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, I'm sympathetic to the problem there.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But the thing is,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,everything you did only matters
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if we have this conversation properly.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So let me help you out there.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You mentioned in an interview
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that the NSA was passing around
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,naked photo's of people.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yeah. This is something where it's...
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's not actually seen as a big deal.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In the culture of NSA.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because you see naked pictures
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,all of the time.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Terrifies people.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,'Cause when we asked people about THAT...
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this is the response you get.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The Government should not be able
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to look at dick-pictures.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If the Government was looking at
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a picture of Gordon's penis,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I definitely feel it would be an invasion
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of my privacy.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Ah, yeah, if the Government was looking at
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,pictures of my penis, that would upset me.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They should never, ever,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the US Government have a picture,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of my dick.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If my husband sent me
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a picture of his penis,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the Government could access it,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I would want that program to be shut down.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I would want the Dick-pic Program changed.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I would also want
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the Dick-pic Program changed.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think it would be terrific,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if the program could change.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I would want it to be tweeked,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I would want it to have
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,clear and transparent laws
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that we knew about.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And that were communicated to us.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,To understand what they
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,were being used for.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Or why the were being kept.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Do you think that program exists?
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I don't.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I don't think that program exists at all.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,No.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,No.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,No.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,No.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If I had knowledge that the US Government
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,had a picture of my dick...
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I would be very pissed off.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Well...
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The good news is that there's no
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,program named 'the Dick-pic Program'.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The bad news is that they're still
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,collecting everybody's information.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Including your dick-pics.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What's the over/under of that last guy
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sent a dick-pic recently?
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You don't need to guess.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'll show you.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I did.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I did take a picture of my... dick.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I sent it to a girl. Recently.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is the most visible line in the sand
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for people.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Can they see my dick?"
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, with that in mind...
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,look inside that folder.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Is a picture of my dick.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So let's go through each NSA program,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and explain to me it's capabilities
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in regards to that photograph...
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of my penis.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,702 Surveillance: can they see my dick?
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yes.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The Pfizen act of 2008,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which Section 702 falls under,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,allows the bulk-collection of
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,internet communications that are
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,one-end foreign.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Bulk-collection:
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,now we're talking about my dick.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You get it.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I do.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because it's, it's, yeah.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, if you have you're email somewhere...
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like G-mail, hosted over seas or
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,transferred somewhere over seas,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or any time crosses outside the borders
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of the United States...
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you're junk ends up in the database.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So it doesn't have to be
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sending your dick to a German?
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,No.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Even if you sent it to somebody
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,within the United States,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,your wholly domestic communication
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,between you and your wife
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,can go from New York...
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to London and back.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And get caught up in the database.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Executive Order 12-333: Dick or no dick?
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yes.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,EO 12-333 is what the NSA uses
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when the other authorities aren't
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,aggressive enough,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or they're not catching as much
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as they like.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,For example...
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,How are they gonna see my dick?
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm only concerned about my penis.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When you send your junk
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,through G-mail, for example,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that's stored on Google-servers.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Google moves data.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,From datacenter to datacenter.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Invisibly to you, without your knowledge.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Your data could be moved outside
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the borders of the United States.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Oh no.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Temporarily.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When your junk was passed by G-mail,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the NSA caught a copy of that.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Prism.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Prism is how they pull your junk
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,out of Google, with Google's involvement.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,All of the different Prism partners,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,people like Yahoo, Facebook, Google,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the Government deputizes them, to be,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sort of their little surveillance sherif.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They're a dick-sherif.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Correct.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Uhm, Upstream.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Upstream is how they snatch your junk
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as it transes the internet.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Okay. Mystic.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If you're describing your junk
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on the phone?
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yes.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But do they have the content
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of that junk-call,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or just the duration of it?
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They have the content as well,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but only for a few countries.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If you are on vacation in the Bahamas?
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yes.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Finally. And you need to remind yourself?
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,No, I'm just not sure...
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what to do with this.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Just hold on to it.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's a lot of responsibility.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yeah. It is a lot of responsibility.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's the whole point.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Should I...?
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,No, you should absolutely not.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And it's unbelievable
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that you would do that.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Actually, it's entirely believable.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,215 meta-data?
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,No.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Good.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But...
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Come on, Ed.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They can probably tell who you're sharing
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,your junk pictures with.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because they're seeing
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who you're texting with,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who you're calling.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If you're calling
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the penis enlargement centre at 3 AM
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and that call lasted 90 minutes?
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They would have a record
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of YOUR phone-number
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,calling THAT phone-number.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Which is a penis enlargement center).
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They would say they don't know
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's penis enlargement center,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but of course they can look it up.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Edward, if the American people
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,understood this...
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they would be absolutely horrified.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I guess I never thought about putting it
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the...
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the context of your junk.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Would a good take-away from this be...
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,'Until such time as we sorted
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,all of this out...
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,don't take pictures of your dick'.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Just don't do it anymore.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,No.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If we do that.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Wait, hold on, you're saying 'no'?
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yeah.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You should be
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,taking pictures of your dick?
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yes.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You shouldn't change your behavior
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because a Government agency somehwere
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is doing the wrong thing.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If you sacrifice our values
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because we're afraid...
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we don't care
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about those values very much.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That is a pretty inspiring answer
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to the question:
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Hey, why did you just send me a picutre
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of your dick?"
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Because I love America, that's why."
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So there you have it, America.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,All of us should now be equipped
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to have this vital debate.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because by June 1,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it is imperative we have a rational,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,adult conversation
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about whether our safety is worth
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,living in a country of barely regulated
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Government sanctioned dick-sherifs.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And with my work here done,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there was just time to take care of
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,one more thing.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Finally, congratulations
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on winning the Oscar.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I know you couldn't be at the ceremony
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for obvious reasons, so...
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Hah?
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Wow.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I thought we'd celebrate ourselves.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Cheers.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Wow, that's...
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that's really something.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Thank you.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You're welcome.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What's the over/under on me
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,getting home safely?
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Well, if you weren't on the list before,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you are now.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Is that like, uhm...
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is that like a figu... is that like a joke
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or is that actually possible?
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,No, it's... it's a real thing.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You're associated now.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Okay.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Just to be clear NSA:
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I never met this guy, so
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,take me off you're f*cking list.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I do not want to get stuck in Russia.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I want to go home I want to go home
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I want to go home I want to go home
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now, just for the record.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Just so you know.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We got in touch with the NSA,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the National Security Council,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the White House,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and we asked them to comment
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on the dick-pick capabilities
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of each of the programs Edward Snowden
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,just discussed.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Which incidentally was some very fun
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,emails to write to Government agencies.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They didn't wish to comment on the record.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I can see why,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for every possible reason.