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Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,10 years ago,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I got a phone call\Nthat changed my life.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,At the time, I was\Na cardiologist
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,at UCLA,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,specializing in cardiac imaging techniques.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The call came from a veterinarian
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,at the Los Angeles Zoo
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,An elderly female chimpanzee
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,had woken up with a facial droop
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the veterinarians were worried\Nthat she had had a stroke
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They asked if I could come \Nto the zoo
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and image the animal's heart
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to look for a possible cardiac cause
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,now, to be clear
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,North American Zoos are staffed
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,by highly qualified, board certified veterinarians
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who take outstanding care of animal patients
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but occasionally, they do reach into the human medical community
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,particularly for some speciality consultation
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and i was one of the lucky physicians
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who was invited to help
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I had a chance to rule out
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a stroke in this chimpanzee
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and make sure that this gorilla \Ndidn't have a torn aorta
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Evaluate this macaw for a heart murmur
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,make sure that this californian sea lion's\Nparacardium wasn't inflammed
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and in this picture,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm listening to the heart of a lion
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,after a lifesaving collaborative procedure with \Nveteranarians and physicians
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we drained 700 cc's of fluid
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from the sack in which
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this lion's heart was contained
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and this procedure,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which i have done on many human patients
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was identical with the exception of that paw and that tail
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,now, most of the time
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,i was working at ucla medical center
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with physicians, discussing
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,symptoms, and diagnoses and treatments
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for my human patients
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but some of the time
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,i was working at the \NLos Angeles Zoo with veteranarians
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,discussing symptoms, diagnoses and treatments
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for their animal patients
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and occasionally, on the very same day
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,i went on rounds at ucla medical center
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and at the los angeles zoo
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and here's what started coming
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,into very clear focus for me
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,physicians and veterinarians were essentially
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,taking care of the same disorders in their animal and human patients
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,congestive heart failutre, brain tumors,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,lukemia, diabetes, arthritis, ALS
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,breast cancer,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,even psychiatric symptoms like depression,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,anxiety, compulsions, eating disoders
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and self injury
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,now, I've got a confession to make
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,even though i studied comparative physiology\Nand evolutionary biology,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as an undergrad,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,i had even written my senior thesis\Non darwinian theory,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,learning about the significant \Noverlap between
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the disorders of animals and humans
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it came as a much needed wake up call for me
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so i started wondering,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with all of these overlaps,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,how was it that i had never
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,thought to ask a veteranarian
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or consult the veterinary literature
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for insights into one \Nof my human patients?\N
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,why had i never, nor \Nhad any of my physicians friends
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and colleagues, who i asked,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,ever attended a veterinary conference?
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for that matter, why was any of this a surprise?
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,i mean look, every single physicians
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,accepts some biological connection
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,between animals and huamns
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,every medication that we perscribe
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or that we've taken ourselves
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or we've given to our families
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,has first been tested on an animal
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but there's something very different about
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,giving an animal a medication or a human disease
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the animal developing congestive heart failure
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or diabetes or breats cancer on their own
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,now maybe some of the surprise
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,comes from the increasing
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,separation in our world
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,between the urban and the non-urban
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you know, we hear about these city kids who
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,think that wool grows on trees
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or that cheese comes from a plant
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,well today's human hospitals
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are turning into increasingly
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,these gleaming cathedrals
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of technology
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and this creates a psychological
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,distance between the human\Npatients who are being treated there
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and animal patients who\Nare living in oceans
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and farms and jungles.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but i think there's an even deeper reason
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,physicians and scientists,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we accept intellectually that our species, \Nhomo sapiens
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is merely one species, no more unique
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or special than any other
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but in our hearts, we don't completely BELIEVE THAT
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I feel it myself when I'm listening to motzart
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or looking at pictures of\Nthe Mars Rover
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on my macbook
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,i feel that tug of human exceptionalism
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,even as i recognize the
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,scientifically isolating cost
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of seeing ourselves as a
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,superior species apart
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,well, I'm trying these days
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when i see a human patient now,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,i always ask, "what do the animal\Ndoctors know about this problem
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that I don't know?"
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and "might i be taking better care
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of my human patient if I saw\Nthem as a human animal patient?"
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,here are a few examples of the kind\Nof exciting connections\N
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that this kind of thinking \Nhas led me to
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,fear induced heart fialure
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,around the year 2000,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,human cardiologists discovered\Nemotionally induced heart failure
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it was described in a gambling father \Nwho had lost his life's savings
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with the roll of a dice
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in a bride who had \Nbeen left at the alter
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but it turns out that this \N"new human diagnosis"
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was neither new, nor\Nwas it uniquely human
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,veteranarians had been diagnosing
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,treating, and even preventing emotinally
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,induced symptoms in animals
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,ranging from monkeys to flamingos
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to deer to rabits
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,since the 1970s
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,how many human lives might have been saved
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if this veterinary knowledge had been
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,put into the hands of ER docs and cardiologists?
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,self injury
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,some human patients harm themselves
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,some pluck out patches of hair
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,others actually cut themselves
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,some animal patients also harm themselves
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there are birds that pluck out feathers
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there are stallions that repetitively\Nbite their flanks till they bleed
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but veterinarians have very specific
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and very effective ways of treating and even preventing self injury
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in their self injuring animals
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,shouldn't this veterinary knowledge be
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,put into the hands of psychotherapists
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and parents and patients
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,struggling with self injury
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,post pardem depression and post pardem psychosis
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sometimes,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,soon after giving birth, some women
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,become depressed and sometimes
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they become seriously depressed and sometimes
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,psychotic
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they may neglect ehri newborn
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and in some extreme cases,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,even harm the child
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Equine veteranarians also
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,know that a mare, soon \Nafter giving birth
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,will neglect the foul
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,refusing to nurture it
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and in some instances
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,kick the foul even to death.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But veterinarians have divised
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,an intervention to deal with
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this foul rejection syndrom
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that involves increasing oxytocin in the mare
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,oxytocin is the bonding hormone
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and this leads to renewed interest
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on the part of the mare in her foul
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,shouldn't this information
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,be put into the hands of OBGYNs
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and family doctors and patients
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who are struggling with post pardem depression
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and psychosis?
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,well despite all of this promise
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,unfortunately, the gulf between our fields
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,remains large
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to explain it, I'm afraid
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm going to have to air \Nsome dirty laundry
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,some physicians can be \Nreal snobs
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about doctors who are not MDs
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm talking about dentists
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and optomitrists and psychologists
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but maybe especially, animal doctors
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of course, most physicians
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,don't realize that it's harder
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to get into vet school these days
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,than medical school
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and that when we go to medical school,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we learn