[Script Info] Title: [Events] Format: Layer, Start, End, Style, Name, MarginL, MarginR, MarginV, Effect, Text Dialogue: 0,0:00:00.20,0:00:04.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[The Plum Village Online Monastery] Dialogue: 0,0:00:04.78,0:00:10.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Bell) Dialogue: 0,0:00:34.04,0:00:40.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Bell) Dialogue: 0,0:01:03.52,0:01:09.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Bell) Dialogue: 0,0:01:26.16,0:01:31.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Dear respected teacher,\Ndear brothers and sisters, Dialogue: 0,0:01:31.96,0:01:34.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,dear sangha, Dialogue: 0,0:01:34.16,0:01:36.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,can you hear OK? Dialogue: 0,0:01:42.83,0:01:47.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This autumn retreat\Nwe are exploring for three months Dialogue: 0,0:01:49.08,0:01:50.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Thay's Dialogue: 0,0:01:54.12,0:01:57.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,14 mindfulness trainings\Nof the Order of Interbeing. Dialogue: 0,0:01:58.01,0:02:02.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's like a tradition that Thay founded. Dialogue: 0,0:02:02.92,0:02:06.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Some of you are new\Nto our community, to Plum Village Dialogue: 0,0:02:06.59,0:02:08.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so, please, do your best. Dialogue: 0,0:02:08.99,0:02:11.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If you don't know what\Nwe are talking about, it is OK. Dialogue: 0,0:02:12.27,0:02:15.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But in the autumn time, for three months Dialogue: 0,0:02:15.83,0:02:22.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we brothers and sisters like to\Ngo focus on a particular topic Dialogue: 0,0:02:22.12,0:02:27.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so that it nourishes\Nall of us to go deeper, Dialogue: 0,0:02:27.60,0:02:31.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to understand Thay,\Nto understand our tradition. Dialogue: 0,0:02:34.16,0:02:36.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The Order of Interbeing Dialogue: 0,0:02:36.91,0:02:40.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is a kind of new vision of Thay. Dialogue: 0,0:02:40.98,0:02:43.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Thay is trying to - Dialogue: 0,0:02:44.52,0:02:51.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Back then he didn't really envision\Nhimself having monastic disciples. Dialogue: 0,0:02:52.50,0:02:54.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think we've heard him share that, Dialogue: 0,0:02:54.71,0:02:58.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"There are already too many teachers\Nwith too many students. Dialogue: 0,0:02:58.86,0:03:02.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I will just teach the students\Nof other teachers." Dialogue: 0,0:03:03.30,0:03:07.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So he really wanted to Dialogue: 0,0:03:09.57,0:03:14.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,just to be doing the part of the teaching. Dialogue: 0,0:03:15.90,0:03:18.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Not having students. Dialogue: 0,0:03:19.65,0:03:22.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think that during that time, Dialogue: 0,0:03:22.62,0:03:25.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he experimented a lot. Dialogue: 0,0:03:25.25,0:03:29.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You can see some old pictures of Thay,\Nhis hair is long. Dialogue: 0,0:03:29.54,0:03:33.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think he is probably\Naware of the hippy movement. Dialogue: 0,0:03:34.69,0:03:38.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If you see Thay's old pictures\Nsometimes he looks cool. Dialogue: 0,0:03:39.09,0:03:41.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Looks like a renegade. Dialogue: 0,0:03:42.10,0:03:46.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He didn't wear the formal robe\Nlike you see Thay does now, Dialogue: 0,0:03:46.97,0:03:49.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and with a OI jacket. Dialogue: 0,0:03:50.44,0:03:53.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We see Thay evolve Dialogue: 0,0:03:53.23,0:03:57.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from a hippyish monk traveling, Dialogue: 0,0:03:58.45,0:04:00.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,experimenting and - Dialogue: 0,0:04:00.67,0:04:03.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Anyway, this is my perception, OK? Dialogue: 0,0:04:03.16,0:04:04.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Laughter) Dialogue: 0,0:04:04.68,0:04:06.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You have to ask Thay yourself. Dialogue: 0,0:04:07.51,0:04:12.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,For me that's how I begin\Nto understand a little bit Dialogue: 0,0:04:12.67,0:04:15.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of the Order of Interbeing, Dialogue: 0,0:04:15.19,0:04:18.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as well as our tradition. Dialogue: 0,0:04:19.50,0:04:24.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,To not to make such a distinction, Dialogue: 0,0:04:24.30,0:04:28.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but Buddhist teaching is to help us\Nliberate ourselves Dialogue: 0,0:04:28.53,0:04:31.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and to relieve suffering within us Dialogue: 0,0:04:31.17,0:04:34.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and to relieve suffering in the world. Dialogue: 0,0:04:34.64,0:04:37.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That is the main purpose. Dialogue: 0,0:04:37.14,0:04:42.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Buddhism is not here to describe\Nthe world, the reality, Dialogue: 0,0:04:42.54,0:04:45.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the nature of things or how we came to be. Dialogue: 0,0:04:45.72,0:04:47.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's not philosophical. Dialogue: 0,0:04:48.49,0:04:50.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When the Buddha found this path Dialogue: 0,0:04:50.96,0:04:54.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is to help relieve suffering.\NThat's it. Dialogue: 0,0:04:55.34,0:04:57.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And as Buddhism evolved, Dialogue: 0,0:04:57.56,0:05:03.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it became more and more philosophical,\Nacademic, and theoretical. Dialogue: 0,0:05:03.60,0:05:10.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Thay's new Order of Interbeing\Nis to revive that. Dialogue: 0,0:05:12.06,0:05:16.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It is something we need to\Nlook deeply, practice deeply, Dialogue: 0,0:05:16.33,0:05:21.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so we can understand our teacher more, Dialogue: 0,0:05:21.80,0:05:28.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to understand what we are doing here,\Nin Plum Village Dialogue: 0,0:05:28.62,0:05:31.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as well as sangha building and so on. Dialogue: 0,0:05:33.86,0:05:40.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Today I will share about the four\Nprinciples of the Order of Interbeing. Dialogue: 0,0:05:42.22,0:05:46.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The Order of Interbeing has precepts,\Nthe fourteen precepts, Dialogue: 0,0:05:47.39,0:05:53.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the underlying foundation,\Nthe spirit of the 14 mindfulness trainings Dialogue: 0,0:05:54.43,0:05:57.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Thay has shared it, Dialogue: 0,0:05:57.80,0:06:06.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,put it into four principles, or four\Nspirits of the Order of Interbeing. Dialogue: 0,0:06:07.62,0:06:14.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Openness, direct experimentation,\Nappropriateness and skillfulness. Dialogue: 0,0:06:15.95,0:06:19.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I will write that up. Dialogue: 0,0:06:19.17,0:06:21.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And before we - Dialogue: 0,0:06:22.71,0:06:27.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,To understand those four,\Nwhy they were so important to Thay Dialogue: 0,0:06:27.80,0:06:29.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we will look a little bit Dialogue: 0,0:06:30.18,0:06:34.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,at some of the conditions that existed Dialogue: 0,0:06:34.84,0:06:40.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when Thay was becoming,\Nevolving as a young monk. Dialogue: 0,0:06:41.94,0:06:46.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is my own reflection\Nto try to understand more Dialogue: 0,0:06:47.46,0:06:51.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I leave it up to you to study more\Nand to look more deeply Dialogue: 0,0:06:52.30,0:06:56.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,why these four are so important Dialogue: 0,0:06:56.61,0:07:01.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,during Thay's time\Nas it is now in our time. Dialogue: 0,0:07:01.91,0:07:04.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The first principle is openness. Dialogue: 0,0:07:05.37,0:07:09.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Openness] Dialogue: 0,0:07:10.50,0:07:13.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The second one is Dialogue: 0,0:07:14.30,0:07:21.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Direct Experimentation] Dialogue: 0,0:07:26.100,0:07:29.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,direct experimentation. Dialogue: 0,0:07:29.97,0:07:33.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The third one is appropriateness. Dialogue: 0,0:07:35.89,0:07:39.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Appropriateness] Dialogue: 0,0:07:40.59,0:07:44.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And the last one is skillfulness. Dialogue: 0,0:07:44.80,0:07:48.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Skilness] Dialogue: 0,0:07:50.84,0:07:53.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And these are things not to just\Nwrite down in notes Dialogue: 0,0:07:53.71,0:07:56.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for us to reflect on in our practice. Dialogue: 0,0:07:56.30,0:07:59.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They are the spirit,\Nthe guides of practice. Dialogue: 0,0:08:00.15,0:08:05.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,To understand a little bit,\Nat least my own looking, Dialogue: 0,0:08:05.52,0:08:09.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I try to look at what was happening\Nduring Thay's time. Dialogue: 0,0:08:10.20,0:08:12.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The conditions. Dialogue: 0,0:08:13.96,0:08:17.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There is a misspelling,\Nskill -ful. Dialogue: 0,0:08:19.26,0:08:21.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Skilness" is not a word yet. Dialogue: 0,0:08:21.87,0:08:23.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Laughter) Dialogue: 0,0:08:23.44,0:08:25.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Skillfulness. Dialogue: 0,0:08:25.47,0:08:28.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Two "l"s?\NTwo two "l"s? Four "l"s? Dialogue: 0,0:08:29.90,0:08:32.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,One "l" somewhere there, right?\NMaybe here. Dialogue: 0,0:08:33.00,0:08:35.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Laughter) Dialogue: 0,0:08:35.45,0:08:38.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yes? No? The other one! Dialogue: 0,0:08:39.82,0:08:41.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's not very skillful. Dialogue: 0,0:08:41.100,0:08:43.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Laughter) Dialogue: 0,0:08:43.80,0:08:45.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Voilà! Dialogue: 0,0:08:47.94,0:08:51.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I was reflecting a little bit of - Dialogue: 0,0:08:51.48,0:08:55.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And we've heard Thay share\Nhow he was inspired Dialogue: 0,0:08:56.02,0:09:00.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when he learned about\Nwhat Buddhism did one time Dialogue: 0,0:09:00.60,0:09:04.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,during Vietnam's history. Dialogue: 0,0:09:04.36,0:09:08.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,How it actually was very integrated\Nin society, in politics. Dialogue: 0,0:09:09.36,0:09:15.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,A lot of Buddhists\Nwere teachers of political leaders, Dialogue: 0,0:09:15.17,0:09:17.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so it was very integrated. Dialogue: 0,0:09:17.96,0:09:23.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So Buddhism was never something you do\Noutside of what was happening in society. Dialogue: 0,0:09:23.65,0:09:25.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is something - Dialogue: 0,0:09:26.87,0:09:32.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So during Thay's time,\Nthere was a war going on. Dialogue: 0,0:09:34.01,0:09:39.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[height war] Dialogue: 0,0:09:43.100,0:09:49.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is in 1968. Dialogue: 0,0:09:53.31,0:09:56.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What we call the Tet Offensive. Dialogue: 0,0:09:56.77,0:09:59.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[1968 Tết Offensive] Dialogue: 0,0:09:59.34,0:10:03.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's like a lot of violence happening. Dialogue: 0,0:10:03.24,0:10:04.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There is the - Dialogue: 0,0:10:05.28,0:10:08.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In the war's history they say\Nthis is the height Dialogue: 0,0:10:08.14,0:10:15.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of when the Vietnamese\Nwanted to show America Dialogue: 0,0:10:15.47,0:10:18.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that they are not giving up. Dialogue: 0,0:10:18.55,0:10:23.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So there is a lot of atrocity\Nhappening in 1968. Dialogue: 0,0:10:23.44,0:10:26.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And just let us know that the OI order Dialogue: 0,0:10:26.97,0:10:31.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[OI Order] Dialogue: 0,0:10:32.45,0:10:35.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,1966. Dialogue: 0,0:10:37.08,0:10:39.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is when Thay - Dialogue: 0,0:10:39.84,0:10:46.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I have a feeling Thay had formulated\Nthese teachings and trainings before that Dialogue: 0,0:10:46.66,0:10:49.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but we put there 66, Dialogue: 0,0:10:49.42,0:10:52.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it is when sister Chan Khong\Nand the six - Dialogue: 0,0:10:52.89,0:10:54.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Vietnamese) Dialogue: 0,0:10:54.96,0:10:56.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Six cedars? No. Dialogue: 0,0:10:57.09,0:10:58.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Vietnamese) Dialogue: 0,0:10:58.93,0:11:02.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The first six OI members,\Nthree men and three women Dialogue: 0,0:11:02.90,0:11:04.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,were ordained. Dialogue: 0,0:11:04.84,0:11:07.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So we look and we see that\Nduring that time Dialogue: 0,0:11:08.50,0:11:12.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there were bombs being thrown\Non the country Dialogue: 0,0:11:13.18,0:11:15.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and people were dying. Dialogue: 0,0:11:15.82,0:11:19.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We have to imagine that time. Dialogue: 0,0:11:20.07,0:11:22.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, how to help? Dialogue: 0,0:11:22.64,0:11:25.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We all know the story of Thay saying that Dialogue: 0,0:11:26.04,0:11:28.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if you are a monk\Nand you are sitting in the monastery Dialogue: 0,0:11:28.100,0:11:31.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and you are chanting Dialogue: 0,0:11:31.25,0:11:34.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and there are bombs and people\Nbeing blown to pieces outside, Dialogue: 0,0:11:34.44,0:11:37.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you do not sit in the temple\Nand continue to chant. Dialogue: 0,0:11:39.51,0:11:43.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is just to understand a little bit Dialogue: 0,0:11:44.31,0:11:46.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Thay's intention. Dialogue: 0,0:11:46.36,0:11:48.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,During this time, Dialogue: 0,0:11:48.89,0:11:52.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there are a lot of\Nyoung people's movements, Dialogue: 0,0:11:57.67,0:11:59.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,students, Dialogue: 0,0:11:59.94,0:12:01.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Young People (students)] Dialogue: 0,0:12:02.09,0:12:07.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who were going into the streets,\Nin the Universities. Dialogue: 0,0:12:07.80,0:12:09.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Univ.] Dialogue: 0,0:12:09.51,0:12:13.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This was happening in Vietnam\Nand in the US. Dialogue: 0,0:12:13.31,0:12:15.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[VN U.S.] Dialogue: 0,0:12:15.86,0:12:19.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In the mid-sixties, this is happening. Dialogue: 0,0:12:19.45,0:12:23.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The young people\Nwere actually a great part of the - Dialogue: 0,0:12:23.93,0:12:26.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,How many of you\Nwere part of that movement? Dialogue: 0,0:12:26.91,0:12:30.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Some of you here, yes?\NA few? Let's see hands! Dialogue: 0,0:12:31.06,0:12:35.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In America a lot of OI members\Nwere from that era. Dialogue: 0,0:12:36.44,0:12:41.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I remember Thay shared with me\None time he was in Columbia University Dialogue: 0,0:12:41.46,0:12:43.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and there was a student protest. Dialogue: 0,0:12:44.47,0:12:47.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And Thay witnessed all that. Dialogue: 0,0:12:49.93,0:12:57.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This also informs the S-Y student,\Nwhat is it? Dialogue: 0,0:12:58.26,0:13:00.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The S-Y-S-S? Dialogue: 0,0:13:03.42,0:13:05.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What it stands for? Dialogue: 0,0:13:06.34,0:13:08.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Social Service. Dialogue: 0,0:13:13.03,0:13:15.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,School? Yes. Dialogue: 0,0:13:15.59,0:13:21.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,School for Youth and Social Service. Dialogue: 0,0:13:21.37,0:13:24.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Sch. Youth. Soc. Serv.) Dialogue: 0,0:13:24.61,0:13:28.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So in this you can see\Nwhat Thay was trying to do. Dialogue: 0,0:13:28.33,0:13:35.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Trying to help bring -\NHave students gather to help. Dialogue: 0,0:13:36.53,0:13:43.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And this is also during the time when Thay\Nenvisions also a kind of Plum Village, Dialogue: 0,0:13:44.38,0:13:46.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Phương Bối", Dialogue: 0,0:13:48.37,0:13:53.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Fragrant Palm Village\Nin the mountains side. Dialogue: 0,0:13:53.19,0:13:58.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because he saw as we were doing \Nsocial service and I guess helping, Dialogue: 0,0:13:59.14,0:14:04.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we also needed a place\Nto retreat and to revitalize ourselves. Dialogue: 0,0:14:09.63,0:14:11.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There was also Dialogue: 0,0:14:12.52,0:14:17.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,religious persecution, Dialogue: 0,0:14:17.90,0:14:21.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Religious persecution] Dialogue: 0,0:14:22.71,0:14:24.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,between - Dialogue: 0,0:14:27.89,0:14:31.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There was a big attack Dialogue: 0,0:14:31.44,0:14:35.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because the person\Nwho came into political power Dialogue: 0,0:14:35.39,0:14:38.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,had Catholic backgrounds. Dialogue: 0,0:14:38.38,0:14:42.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So there was a lot of tension between - Dialogue: 0,0:14:45.18,0:14:49.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and other Buddhist religious sects as well. Dialogue: 0,0:14:50.01,0:14:52.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So this was happening during that time. Dialogue: 0,0:14:53.00,0:15:00.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The big reason for all that\Nwas the political ideology. Dialogue: 0,0:15:01.33,0:15:04.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Political Ideology] Dialogue: 0,0:15:08.33,0:15:11.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,With the Communists, Dialogue: 0,0:15:11.99,0:15:14.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Communist] Dialogue: 0,0:15:18.36,0:15:20.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the Democracy, Dialogue: 0,0:15:20.96,0:15:23.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Democracy] Dialogue: 0,0:15:24.68,0:15:27.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then of course\Nthe capitalism and so on. Dialogue: 0,0:15:28.21,0:15:32.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So there is a lot of that happening. Dialogue: 0,0:15:32.19,0:15:34.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Afraid of the - Dialogue: 0,0:15:34.42,0:15:38.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,As you learn more of the war\Nin Vietnam, the history, Dialogue: 0,0:15:38.24,0:15:40.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as things are coming out more, you see - Dialogue: 0,0:15:41.05,0:15:44.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think there was recently\Na ten part series Dialogue: 0,0:15:44.80,0:15:47.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on the war in Vietnam. Dialogue: 0,0:15:47.93,0:15:52.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And we see that actually a lot of it\Nwas so unnecessary. Dialogue: 0,0:15:53.60,0:15:55.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There was a wrong perception, Dialogue: 0,0:15:55.73,0:16:01.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the idea that if you allow one country\Nto become Communist, Dialogue: 0,0:16:02.44,0:16:06.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that was not even necessarily\Nthat assumption was true, Dialogue: 0,0:16:06.27,0:16:10.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that the whole, entire area was -\NThey call it the domino effect. Dialogue: 0,0:16:11.41,0:16:14.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And you see how a concept\Ncreates a fear, Dialogue: 0,0:16:14.47,0:16:16.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as we are doing now with terrorists. Dialogue: 0,0:16:17.11,0:16:19.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But it's a new thing. \NIt's not a domino effect, Dialogue: 0,0:16:20.02,0:16:21.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but it's a more - Dialogue: 0,0:16:21.86,0:16:24.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We don't know a term yet for it. Dialogue: 0,0:16:24.45,0:16:27.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But here you see the view, Dialogue: 0,0:16:28.75,0:16:32.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the things that make us have fear Dialogue: 0,0:16:33.27,0:16:35.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and we will not let go. Dialogue: 0,0:16:36.49,0:16:40.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because of this fear,\Nsome political leaders, Dialogue: 0,0:16:41.08,0:16:43.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,presidents and so on, Dialogue: 0,0:16:43.20,0:16:45.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,were afraid and they got stuck in, Dialogue: 0,0:16:46.08,0:16:49.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and because they were stuck in,\Ntheir pride came up. Dialogue: 0,0:16:49.69,0:16:54.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"No longer can I be the president\Nthat let America fail." Dialogue: 0,0:16:55.48,0:16:59.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So there is stuckness\Nbecause of a view, an idea. Dialogue: 0,0:17:00.91,0:17:07.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And if you are working on the ground,\Nand this is happening out there - Dialogue: 0,0:17:07.96,0:17:11.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Thay sees that\Nit's not happening in Vietnam, Dialogue: 0,0:17:11.30,0:17:15.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's not the only place where we are going\Nto find peace and resolution to this. Dialogue: 0,0:17:16.34,0:17:20.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This moves Thay to go to the US\Nto try to convince Dialogue: 0,0:17:21.21,0:17:24.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the intellectuals, the political leaders,\Nthe religious leaders Dialogue: 0,0:17:25.71,0:17:28.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to change the idea. Dialogue: 0,0:17:28.37,0:17:32.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,These are some of the conditions\Nthat were happening Dialogue: 0,0:17:32.77,0:17:35.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,at the time that the OI, Dialogue: 0,0:17:36.83,0:17:39.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the Order, the Trainings, the Charter - Dialogue: 0,0:17:39.70,0:17:43.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Thay writes the whole complete -\NNot just the trainings, Dialogue: 0,0:17:43.31,0:17:46.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but the Charter,\Nhow it should be organized, Dialogue: 0,0:17:47.80,0:17:49.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and so on. Dialogue: 0,0:17:56.74,0:18:01.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And this also, during this time, Dialogue: 0,0:18:01.65,0:18:03.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,these movements in the US, Dialogue: 0,0:18:04.10,0:18:07.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Thay meets with Martin Luther King. Dialogue: 0,0:18:08.37,0:18:10.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[MLK] Dialogue: 0,0:18:10.29,0:18:12.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,After the meeting, Dialogue: 0,0:18:12.42,0:18:19.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Dr. Martin Luther King\Ngave a speech on Vietnam. Dialogue: 0,0:18:21.68,0:18:24.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So there is a lot happening as well. Dialogue: 0,0:18:24.41,0:18:28.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Thay came into contact with that\Nwhile he traveled the US. Dialogue: 0,0:18:29.22,0:18:34.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But there were a lot of like-minded people\Ndoing the - Martin and so on. Dialogue: 0,0:18:37.66,0:18:46.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And Thay at this time also starts to\Nlook into forming the Van Hanh University. Dialogue: 0,0:18:46.82,0:18:49.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Van Hanh Unv.] Dialogue: 0,0:18:51.62,0:18:56.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So Thay is trying also\Nto re-envision a kind of Buddhism Dialogue: 0,0:18:56.80,0:19:03.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that is informed and interactive,\Nengaged Buddhism is born during this time. Dialogue: 0,0:19:04.68,0:19:10.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Thay's engaged Buddhism in the sense of -\Nwith these conditions. Dialogue: 0,0:19:10.74,0:19:16.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because Thay has shared that there is a\Nmovement like this happening also in China Dialogue: 0,0:19:17.21,0:19:19.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with another Buddhist monk. Dialogue: 0,0:19:20.38,0:19:23.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But this is to understand a little bit. Dialogue: 0,0:19:24.62,0:19:31.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because when we look at\Nhow something manifests, Dialogue: 0,0:19:31.76,0:19:34.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we need to look at the conditions. Dialogue: 0,0:19:34.92,0:19:39.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That will inform us and we'll understand\Nwhat Thay is trying to do. Dialogue: 0,0:20:15.95,0:20:23.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So those are\Nexternal conditions in society. Dialogue: 0,0:20:23.21,0:20:27.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We can also look into Thay,\Nwhat inspires him. Dialogue: 0,0:20:30.12,0:20:33.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The Lý and Trần dynasties. Dialogue: 0,0:20:33.74,0:20:36.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Lý, Trần Dyn.] Dialogue: 0,0:20:37.97,0:20:44.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is where Buddhism\Nwas very integrated with society. Dialogue: 0,0:20:44.85,0:20:46.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[B. - Soc.] Dialogue: 0,0:20:46.93,0:20:48.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Not separated. Dialogue: 0,0:20:50.14,0:20:52.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And Thay shares a lot about this. Dialogue: 0,0:20:58.18,0:21:01.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And during this time,\NThay would begin to write - Dialogue: 0,0:21:02.02,0:21:05.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Before the founding of the Order,\Nhe wrote two books. Dialogue: 0,0:21:06.09,0:21:08.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Modernized Buddhism", Dialogue: 0,0:21:09.42,0:21:11.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Modernized Bud.] Dialogue: 0,0:21:15.56,0:21:20.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Đạo Phật hiện đại hóa" in Vietnamese. Dialogue: 0,0:21:21.25,0:21:25.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Đ. P. hiện đại hóa] Dialogue: 0,0:21:28.74,0:21:31.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then he writes another one, Dialogue: 0,0:21:31.93,0:21:34.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Socially Engaged Buddhism". Dialogue: 0,0:21:35.07,0:21:37.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Socially Eng. B.] Dialogue: 0,0:21:39.77,0:21:42.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This one is Dialogue: 0,0:21:42.52,0:21:45.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Đạo Phật đi vào cuộc đời". Dialogue: 0,0:21:46.51,0:21:49.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Đi vào c. đ.] Dialogue: 0,0:21:54.44,0:21:57.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So here Thay is expressing Dialogue: 0,0:21:58.17,0:22:02.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and he is also in this time writing\Nmany articles in Buddhist magazines Dialogue: 0,0:22:04.38,0:22:08.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to share his vision of a Buddhism Dialogue: 0,0:22:08.48,0:22:12.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that is very connected to society, Dialogue: 0,0:22:12.90,0:22:15.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,working in politics, Dialogue: 0,0:22:15.74,0:22:19.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,social service Dialogue: 0,0:22:19.47,0:22:21.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as well as in education, Dialogue: 0,0:22:22.02,0:22:24.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in organizations and so on. Dialogue: 0,0:22:25.26,0:22:33.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is a vision of Thay for the SYSS,\Nthe School of Youth and Social Service. Dialogue: 0,0:22:43.16,0:22:47.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In the School of Youth and Social Service\Nthey went into the villages Dialogue: 0,0:22:48.20,0:22:51.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and they helped organize the health care, Dialogue: 0,0:22:52.48,0:22:58.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the management as well as\Nvery practical things, Dialogue: 0,0:22:58.47,0:23:02.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,helping the farmers deep wells. Dialogue: 0,0:23:03.43,0:23:07.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was not just go there\Nand teach Buddhism, Dialogue: 0,0:23:07.31,0:23:09.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but go there and you'll see. Dialogue: 0,0:23:09.89,0:23:15.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This was Thay's vision of monastics\Nor OI members doing not just Dialogue: 0,0:23:19.10,0:23:21.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"philosophical ideas", Dialogue: 0,0:23:21.73,0:23:24.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but actually very practical. Dialogue: 0,0:23:24.59,0:23:27.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So it's an engaged, practical Buddhism Dialogue: 0,0:23:28.03,0:23:31.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that is not just in the temple,\Nin the University, Dialogue: 0,0:23:32.15,0:23:35.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but actually embedded in society. Dialogue: 0,0:24:05.23,0:24:10.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So we can here begin to see\Nthese four principles Dialogue: 0,0:24:10.68,0:24:13.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,based on these conditions. Dialogue: 0,0:24:13.54,0:24:17.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There was a very intense debate Dialogue: 0,0:24:17.54,0:24:19.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,between two ideas. Dialogue: 0,0:24:20.00,0:24:22.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And Thay saw that very clearly, Dialogue: 0,0:24:23.38,0:24:25.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that it caused a lot of suffering Dialogue: 0,0:24:25.78,0:24:28.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,just based on a viewpoint, Dialogue: 0,0:24:28.79,0:24:32.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,having an agenda. Dialogue: 0,0:24:34.16,0:24:38.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So the first principle\Nof the Order of Interbeing is openness. Dialogue: 0,0:24:40.74,0:24:49.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In Vietnamese it is "phá chấp". Dialogue: 0,0:24:50.45,0:24:53.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[phá chấp] Dialogue: 0,0:24:53.74,0:24:55.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It is very interesting. Dialogue: 0,0:24:55.91,0:24:57.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I read the Vietnamese. Dialogue: 0,0:24:57.94,0:25:02.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's not "cởi mở",\N"cởi mở" is openness. Dialogue: 0,0:25:03.17,0:25:05.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But it is "phá chấp". Dialogue: 0,0:25:05.22,0:25:09.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Phá" is to phá, right? Dialogue: 0,0:25:10.10,0:25:11.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Laughter) Dialogue: 0,0:25:11.92,0:25:14.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,To remove. Dialogue: 0,0:25:14.64,0:25:18.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But it also means to mess around. Dialogue: 0,0:25:19.26,0:25:21.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,To "phá", to remove. Dialogue: 0,0:25:21.72,0:25:24.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[remove] Dialogue: 0,0:25:24.46,0:25:27.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And "chấp" is like Dialogue: 0,0:25:29.78,0:25:32.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,stuckness. Dialogue: 0,0:25:32.23,0:25:34.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[stuckness] Dialogue: 0,0:25:34.59,0:25:36.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,To remove stuckness. Dialogue: 0,0:25:36.54,0:25:39.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Thay would say it is also "thủ", Dialogue: 0,0:25:39.95,0:25:42.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a kind of grasping. Dialogue: 0,0:25:44.58,0:25:46.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It is very interesting, eh? Dialogue: 0,0:25:46.63,0:25:49.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Openness is to remove your - Dialogue: 0,0:25:49.58,0:25:52.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know?\NOpenness is like this. Dialogue: 0,0:25:53.35,0:25:57.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This way is describing\N"to remove your -". Dialogue: 0,0:25:58.37,0:26:01.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And everyone can relate to that. Dialogue: 0,0:26:01.66,0:26:04.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When you have a view\Nand you think you're right, Dialogue: 0,0:26:04.44,0:26:06.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's pretty tight. Dialogue: 0,0:26:07.62,0:26:09.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Laughter) Dialogue: 0,0:26:10.30,0:26:11.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He is wrong! Dialogue: 0,0:26:12.13,0:26:14.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You hold your breath, right? Dialogue: 0,0:26:14.30,0:26:16.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When you are right, you hold your breath. Dialogue: 0,0:26:16.57,0:26:18.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Laughter) Dialogue: 0,0:26:18.32,0:26:20.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know that feeling, right? Dialogue: 0,0:26:21.12,0:26:24.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You see, openness is very -\NIt's up to you! Dialogue: 0,0:26:26.58,0:26:29.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You want to hold?\NOr you want to -? Dialogue: 0,0:26:30.66,0:26:32.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You can see. Dialogue: 0,0:26:32.59,0:26:36.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is easy to understand\Non the individual level, Dialogue: 0,0:26:36.33,0:26:39.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but when it happens on a mass level, Dialogue: 0,0:26:39.37,0:26:42.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when a whole nation,\Nwhen a whole group of people Dialogue: 0,0:26:44.16,0:26:46.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is based on fear and wrong perceptions, Dialogue: 0,0:26:49.18,0:26:53.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they build walls,\Nthey make more guns, Dialogue: 0,0:26:54.58,0:26:57.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,start to have cameras, Dialogue: 0,0:26:57.70,0:26:59.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,start to search. Dialogue: 0,0:27:00.07,0:27:02.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know, at the airport? Dialogue: 0,0:27:03.66,0:27:08.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is to understand\Nwhat Thay is looking at Dialogue: 0,0:27:08.61,0:27:11.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in terms of what is coming\Nfor the modern world. Dialogue: 0,0:27:12.32,0:27:16.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because of the militarization, the fear,\Nthe wrong perceptions. Dialogue: 0,0:27:18.32,0:27:25.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is the root of a lot of suffering\Nin the world on the mass scale. Dialogue: 0,0:27:25.98,0:27:29.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And it begins with the individual scale. Dialogue: 0,0:27:29.68,0:27:31.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If you cannot handle this, Dialogue: 0,0:27:32.07,0:27:35.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if you go to education\Nand you are not taught this, Dialogue: 0,0:27:35.48,0:27:37.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you will become a leader. Dialogue: 0,0:27:38.08,0:27:42.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And if you don't know how the mind works,\Nyou will be caught in a view. Dialogue: 0,0:27:43.41,0:27:47.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,My sister Tue Nghiem\Nwill speak more about this next week Dialogue: 0,0:27:48.28,0:27:52.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so I will stop there. Dialogue: 0,0:27:58.25,0:28:02.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And of course,\Nthis you can understand more, Dialogue: 0,0:28:03.64,0:28:08.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the root of it, in the Buddhist teaching\Nin the Sutra called the Kalama, Dialogue: 0,0:28:08.76,0:28:13.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Kalama Sutra] Dialogue: 0,0:28:15.64,0:28:19.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where these monks\Nfrom a different tradition, Dialogue: 0,0:28:20.05,0:28:25.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,many teachers teach them many things\Nand they don't know which one to follow Dialogue: 0,0:28:25.64,0:28:27.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because they all make sense. Dialogue: 0,0:28:28.35,0:28:31.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is the Buddha teaching Dialogue: 0,0:28:34.11,0:28:37.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you need to test it yourself\Nand see if it works. Dialogue: 0,0:28:38.52,0:28:40.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So it's a kind of a - Dialogue: 0,0:28:41.69,0:28:47.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The Sutra that shows the spirit\Nof openness, of tolerance in Buddhism. Dialogue: 0,0:28:49.58,0:28:53.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now we move into direct experimentation. Dialogue: 0,0:29:05.74,0:29:08.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In Vietnamese it's Dialogue: 0,0:29:13.68,0:29:15.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"thực chứng". Dialogue: 0,0:29:15.27,0:29:17.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[thực chứng] Dialogue: 0,0:29:18.52,0:29:21.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Vietnamese) Dialogue: 0,0:29:23.64,0:29:25.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Thực chứng" Dialogue: 0,0:29:25.98,0:29:27.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Real Dialogue: 0,0:29:28.35,0:29:30.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[real] Dialogue: 0,0:29:32.81,0:29:35.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,experience. Dialogue: 0,0:29:35.28,0:29:38.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[experience] Dialogue: 0,0:29:39.09,0:29:42.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is a heart\Nof the Buddhist teaching as well. Dialogue: 0,0:29:42.84,0:29:46.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's based on our own experience Dialogue: 0,0:29:47.30,0:29:52.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that we believe in something\Nor not believe in something. Dialogue: 0,0:29:53.72,0:29:56.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is also found in the Kalama Sutra. Dialogue: 0,0:29:57.93,0:30:02.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So it's not a belief based on\Nwhat a teacher or what the Sutra Dialogue: 0,0:30:03.10,0:30:05.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or what someone says, Dialogue: 0,0:30:05.60,0:30:07.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but it is from your direct - Dialogue: 0,0:30:07.99,0:30:10.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And we need to keep this in mind. Dialogue: 0,0:30:11.21,0:30:14.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because it's very easy just to follow. Dialogue: 0,0:30:31.01,0:30:33.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So the practice of meditation Dialogue: 0,0:30:34.72,0:30:36.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,will help us Dialogue: 0,0:30:39.35,0:30:43.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,know more and more\Nwhat is appropriate for us. Dialogue: 0,0:30:44.24,0:30:48.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So these two are very linked to\Nappropriateness and skillfulness. Dialogue: 0,0:30:51.12,0:30:53.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Sometimes we learn something Dialogue: 0,0:30:53.59,0:30:58.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and we have not fully tasted it Dialogue: 0,0:30:59.70,0:31:02.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and we are very easy to teach it. Dialogue: 0,0:31:03.38,0:31:05.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is a danger. Dialogue: 0,0:31:06.100,0:31:13.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Also in our work of\N- how we call it- Dialogue: 0,0:31:14.35,0:31:17.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sangha building or helping the world, Dialogue: 0,0:31:18.19,0:31:21.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this is where it can be dangerous Dialogue: 0,0:31:22.78,0:31:24.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in terms of - Dialogue: 0,0:31:24.64,0:31:28.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If you have not found ease,\Nfound peace within yourself, Dialogue: 0,0:31:29.33,0:31:31.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,have touched that within us, Dialogue: 0,0:31:32.00,0:31:34.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and we go and teach it, Dialogue: 0,0:31:34.81,0:31:37.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think that's where it can become Dialogue: 0,0:31:38.20,0:31:40.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in Vietnamese they call it (Vietnamese). Dialogue: 0,0:31:40.99,0:31:44.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's like you do the Buddhist work, Dialogue: 0,0:31:45.97,0:31:48.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sangha building for instance, Dialogue: 0,0:31:48.41,0:31:51.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and you see this a lot in sangha building. Dialogue: 0,0:31:55.99,0:31:58.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You come into the sangha,\Nyou join the sangha, Dialogue: 0,0:31:58.100,0:32:01.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and you learn about\Nthe 5 mindfulness trainings, Dialogue: 0,0:32:01.63,0:32:05.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you practice it but it's not fully ripe. Dialogue: 0,0:32:05.50,0:32:08.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then you hear\Nthere is a 14 mindfulness training. Dialogue: 0,0:32:08.46,0:32:10.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Wow!\N14! Bigger number! Dialogue: 0,0:32:10.77,0:32:12.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Laughter) Dialogue: 0,0:32:13.45,0:32:15.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And you get involved. Dialogue: 0,0:32:16.59,0:32:18.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You have a good spirit, Dialogue: 0,0:32:18.82,0:32:22.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you want to continue Thay's\Nengaged Buddhism! Dialogue: 0,0:32:23.51,0:32:28.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But because of this direct experience, Dialogue: 0,0:32:29.02,0:32:30.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,direct Dialogue: 0,0:32:31.24,0:32:34.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[realization] Dialogue: 0,0:32:36.78,0:32:38.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,ripening Dialogue: 0,0:32:38.32,0:32:39.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[ripening] Dialogue: 0,0:32:39.82,0:32:41.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Two "n"s? One "n". Dialogue: 0,0:32:48.52,0:32:50.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is very important Dialogue: 0,0:32:51.03,0:32:54.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it links to direct experimentation. Dialogue: 0,0:32:55.36,0:32:58.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We are very good to - Dialogue: 0,0:33:01.99,0:33:03.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,How we called it - Dialogue: 0,0:33:03.50,0:33:05.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We like newness, we like - Dialogue: 0,0:33:07.70,0:33:09.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Once you know it, Dialogue: 0,0:33:09.77,0:33:12.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and we've done it once,\Nlike walking meditation, Dialogue: 0,0:33:13.04,0:33:14.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we've touched it, Dialogue: 0,0:33:14.100,0:33:17.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as, "Now I can walk in meditation". Dialogue: 0,0:33:17.72,0:33:19.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But we don't continue it. Dialogue: 0,0:33:19.64,0:33:23.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's like, "Let's do something else,\Nlet's start jogging meditation. Dialogue: 0,0:33:25.57,0:33:28.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's fast walking meditation". Dialogue: 0,0:33:29.76,0:33:32.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Or sitting everyday, you touch it Dialogue: 0,0:33:33.65,0:33:36.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and you get bored of it.\N"Let's go sit outside!". Dialogue: 0,0:33:37.41,0:33:40.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Or, "Let's sit -"\NWe - Dialogue: 0,0:33:40.88,0:33:43.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because of our restlessness, Dialogue: 0,0:33:43.60,0:33:46.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and our not-stillness, Dialogue: 0,0:33:48.29,0:33:52.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this direct experimentation\Ncan be a temptation. Dialogue: 0,0:33:54.44,0:33:57.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We haven't really touched\Nthis kind of stillness, Dialogue: 0,0:33:58.02,0:34:01.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this kind of calm, this peace,\Nthis freedom. Dialogue: 0,0:34:03.23,0:34:06.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It hasn't ripened in the Buddhist circle Dialogue: 0,0:34:06.97,0:34:09.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and we are too quick Dialogue: 0,0:34:09.11,0:34:14.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to start engaging in the world.\NSangha building. Dialogue: 0,0:34:16.45,0:34:18.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What will happen is - Dialogue: 0,0:34:19.26,0:34:21.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Two of those elements come together Dialogue: 0,0:34:21.98,0:34:25.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and you have collision of views. Dialogue: 0,0:34:25.67,0:34:28.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is something we need to know, Dialogue: 0,0:34:29.19,0:34:31.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because OI members, Dialogue: 0,0:34:32.13,0:34:34.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,one of their fundamental-\Nnot fundamental, Dialogue: 0,0:34:35.01,0:34:41.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,one of their misperception\Nor kind a drive in OI members Dialogue: 0,0:34:41.26,0:34:44.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is to sangha build,\Nand to engage in the world, Dialogue: 0,0:34:45.08,0:34:49.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and to help do what Thay did\Nduring his time. Dialogue: 0,0:34:51.13,0:34:57.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is -\NIt needs to be some caution with that. Dialogue: 0,0:34:58.40,0:35:05.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because I think, as we talk with\NOI members and sangha builders, Dialogue: 0,0:35:06.03,0:35:12.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there is a lot of colliding of viewpoints\Nif we are not careful. Dialogue: 0,0:35:14.83,0:35:21.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So this is direct experimentation. Dialogue: 0,0:35:22.76,0:35:26.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We like it. You can see\Nhow Thay was influenced Dialogue: 0,0:35:29.18,0:35:35.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,by the West scientific rational thinking,\Nto test everything. Dialogue: 0,0:35:39.47,0:35:42.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But do we need to test everything? Dialogue: 0,0:35:42.64,0:35:46.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Sometimes in Dharma sharing\Nor consultation Dialogue: 0,0:35:46.71,0:35:51.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I hear someone describe their suffering\Nand it's something I've never experienced. Dialogue: 0,0:35:53.02,0:35:56.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Do I need to go experiment with that? Dialogue: 0,0:35:56.82,0:35:59.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,No, there is another thing going on. Dialogue: 0,0:35:59.16,0:36:03.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It is also a kind of intuition,\Nour wisdom, our own deep looking. Dialogue: 0,0:36:04.07,0:36:06.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So this is out there. Dialogue: 0,0:36:06.95,0:36:09.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We just recently had a Wake Up retreat Dialogue: 0,0:36:11.29,0:36:15.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and a young man said,\N"I want to experience everything!", Dialogue: 0,0:36:16.11,0:36:22.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,including open sex, open relationships. Dialogue: 0,0:36:23.58,0:36:26.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I was like, "OK, good". Dialogue: 0,0:36:27.44,0:36:31.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It is quite interesting,\Nbecause you hear a lot of sharing Dialogue: 0,0:36:32.04,0:36:34.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about the suffering surrounding that. Dialogue: 0,0:36:34.70,0:36:40.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But he didn't want to\Njust believe in someone else, Dialogue: 0,0:36:40.53,0:36:42.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he wanted to experiment. Dialogue: 0,0:36:42.93,0:36:45.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I chose not to. Dialogue: 0,0:36:46.89,0:36:49.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's very clear where it leads. Dialogue: 0,0:36:50.42,0:36:52.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because there is a wrong perception. Dialogue: 0,0:36:53.48,0:36:57.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We don't look deeply\Nthat we are lacking something Dialogue: 0,0:36:57.79,0:37:01.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and we are chasing maybe\Na sensual pleasure. Dialogue: 0,0:37:01.25,0:37:05.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Anyway, certain things\Nthat you can look deeply into. Dialogue: 0,0:37:06.09,0:37:08.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And from the deep looking, Dialogue: 0,0:37:08.45,0:37:10.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we don't need - Dialogue: 0,0:37:10.85,0:37:13.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We can see clearly. Dialogue: 0,0:37:13.49,0:37:18.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So the experimentation doesn't-\NThis is where there is a fine line. Dialogue: 0,0:37:19.11,0:37:21.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think we all know this. Dialogue: 0,0:37:21.50,0:37:26.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's obvious that there are certain things\Nyou can know it's hot. Don't touch it. Dialogue: 0,0:37:26.95,0:37:29.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But it's very tempting. Dialogue: 0,0:37:29.65,0:37:32.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So experimentation Dialogue: 0,0:37:34.99,0:37:38.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is very tempting. Dialogue: 0,0:37:51.72,0:37:56.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We will have a sound of the bell\Nbefore we continue. Dialogue: 0,0:38:08.03,0:38:09.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Bell) Dialogue: 0,0:38:10.86,0:38:17.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Bell) Dialogue: 0,0:38:42.39,0:38:44.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,One time I heard Thay share Dialogue: 0,0:38:45.12,0:38:48.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that before he brings out\Na new teaching, a new practice, Dialogue: 0,0:38:48.51,0:38:51.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he has practiced it for about ten years. Dialogue: 0,0:38:52.60,0:38:56.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think it was during a Dharma talk,\NI've forgiven which practice it was. Dialogue: 0,0:38:58.45,0:39:00.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But that's pretty - Dialogue: 0,0:39:00.78,0:39:02.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And there are other instances Dialogue: 0,0:39:02.90,0:39:06.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where we've seen Thay\Nheld on to his insight for a long time. Dialogue: 0,0:39:09.12,0:39:13.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then he revealed it to the sangha. Dialogue: 0,0:39:13.41,0:39:16.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That is something I'm learning. Dialogue: 0,0:39:17.53,0:39:20.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because usually we find something,\Nwe learn something, Dialogue: 0,0:39:21.06,0:39:23.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we experience something Dialogue: 0,0:39:23.23,0:39:26.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and we right away, \Nthe way my education is, Dialogue: 0,0:39:26.46,0:39:30.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we share it out before it's ripe. Dialogue: 0,0:39:30.90,0:39:37.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There is something that is in the training\Nthat is very hard to transmit. Dialogue: 0,0:39:38.22,0:39:41.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And that is the thing\Nthat I'm learning here. Dialogue: 0,0:39:41.40,0:39:44.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There are certain things\Nwe have to cherish Dialogue: 0,0:39:44.69,0:39:48.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and keep practicing until it ripens. Dialogue: 0,0:39:50.34,0:39:54.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I know it's not always the case, Dialogue: 0,0:39:54.68,0:39:57.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but there are certain things you do,\Nyou practice Dialogue: 0,0:39:57.95,0:40:01.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and you find lightness,\Nliberation, more insight. Dialogue: 0,0:40:02.45,0:40:05.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And it is amazing what happens\Nwhen you keep it. Dialogue: 0,0:40:06.78,0:40:10.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Don't share it out too quickly. Dialogue: 0,0:40:11.17,0:40:14.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Have we ever thought about\Nwriting a book? Dialogue: 0,0:40:16.23,0:40:20.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Have we ever shared it with someone and\Nthen somehow the inspiration goes away? Dialogue: 0,0:40:23.11,0:40:26.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Or you want to do something and\Nyou get so excited and you share it Dialogue: 0,0:40:26.25,0:40:30.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to too many people and then\Nwe just don't do it anymore. Dialogue: 0,0:40:31.04,0:40:34.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I don't know, there is something\Npsychological about that. Dialogue: 0,0:40:34.73,0:40:38.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In the mindfulness trainings,\Nin our practice, Dialogue: 0,0:40:40.20,0:40:43.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it has something to do\Nwith intuition as well. Dialogue: 0,0:40:43.67,0:40:47.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There is an inner training\Nthat is happening. Dialogue: 0,0:40:49.10,0:40:53.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When you succeed, and you have an insight\Non one of the trainings, Dialogue: 0,0:40:53.92,0:40:57.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it is very tempting to share it\Nin Dharma sharing right away. Dialogue: 0,0:40:57.80,0:41:00.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I know you are supposed to,\Nand the monks encourage you to, Dialogue: 0,0:41:03.25,0:41:06.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but just -\NI throw that out there. Dialogue: 0,0:41:09.33,0:41:11.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,To cook something, Dialogue: 0,0:41:11.54,0:41:14.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,don't let people look in it. Dialogue: 0,0:41:14.93,0:41:18.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You are cooking potatoes,\Nstop lifting the lid Dialogue: 0,0:41:18.71,0:41:21.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,letting people look into it. Dialogue: 0,0:41:21.49,0:41:23.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's not going to cook. Dialogue: 0,0:41:24.63,0:41:28.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I don't know how to share\Nthis way of training. Dialogue: 0,0:41:28.57,0:41:30.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Outside you don't train like this. Dialogue: 0,0:41:31.12,0:41:34.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In education, in university,\Nyou have something, Dialogue: 0,0:41:35.44,0:41:38.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Ah! You write it on Facebook\Nand you let everyone know. Dialogue: 0,0:41:43.24,0:41:46.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You have lo live here at least five years Dialogue: 0,0:41:46.60,0:41:50.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for you to taste that. Dialogue: 0,0:41:52.93,0:41:56.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,To have that direct experience. Dialogue: 0,0:41:59.26,0:42:03.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There was something I wanted to\Nshare about experimenting. Dialogue: 0,0:42:07.18,0:42:15.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When you discover something from your\Nexperience and from your experimentation, Dialogue: 0,0:42:17.13,0:42:19.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,don't make a thing out of it. Dialogue: 0,0:42:19.97,0:42:22.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Laughter) Dialogue: 0,0:42:22.23,0:42:25.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know? You discover that\Nthese shoes are amazing! Dialogue: 0,0:42:26.77,0:42:29.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And you just go around\Ntelling all your brothers, Dialogue: 0,0:42:29.37,0:42:34.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"These shoes are amazing!\NThey help you run, they keep your back, Dialogue: 0,0:42:34.26,0:42:36.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you will never have backaches again". Dialogue: 0,0:42:36.75,0:42:42.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You begin to form a theory around it.\NYou make a thing out of it. Dialogue: 0,0:42:43.61,0:42:46.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know what I'm talking about? Dialogue: 0,0:42:48.19,0:42:50.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You discover a new food, Dialogue: 0,0:42:51.47,0:42:53.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you went on the Internet Dialogue: 0,0:42:54.52,0:42:57.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it starts so like - Dialogue: 0,0:42:58.24,0:43:00.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And it becomes something. Dialogue: 0,0:43:01.61,0:43:05.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That will make the openness less. Dialogue: 0,0:43:06.17,0:43:09.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Slowly, your thing you discovered, Dialogue: 0,0:43:10.39,0:43:12.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you hold it. Dialogue: 0,0:43:12.62,0:43:15.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That is so hard to do. Dialogue: 0,0:43:18.64,0:43:22.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I'm very sensitive to that. Dialogue: 0,0:43:22.32,0:43:26.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I have suffered a lot\Nbecause of my own "thing out of it". Dialogue: 0,0:43:30.22,0:43:34.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I helped form the teenage program, Dialogue: 0,0:43:34.52,0:43:37.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,one of my sufferings\Nas the abbot in Deer Park Monastery Dialogue: 0,0:43:38.18,0:43:42.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was I helped for six years\Nto form the Teenage Program. Dialogue: 0,0:43:44.18,0:43:47.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Just the teenagers, no parents. Dialogue: 0,0:43:47.61,0:43:51.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I remember the teenagers\Ncame to us after a family retreat Dialogue: 0,0:43:52.100,0:43:55.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and they spoke to me, Dialogue: 0,0:43:55.51,0:43:59.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and they shared it to me, only me. Dialogue: 0,0:44:00.43,0:44:03.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And they shared,\N"Oh, we don't want our parents here". Dialogue: 0,0:44:04.39,0:44:10.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I remember it was very inspiring to see\Nthe young people, Vietnamese Americans. Dialogue: 0,0:44:10.24,0:44:12.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I really connected to them, Dialogue: 0,0:44:12.39,0:44:14.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I can feel they need space\Nfrom their parents. Dialogue: 0,0:44:15.03,0:44:17.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because the teenagers,\Nwith their parents around, Dialogue: 0,0:44:18.16,0:44:21.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they always get followed by their parents. Dialogue: 0,0:44:22.62,0:44:25.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Do you drink enough water?", or Dialogue: 0,0:44:25.38,0:44:28.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"You're late for walking meditation!" Dialogue: 0,0:44:28.98,0:44:31.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I remember hearing that\Nfrom the teenagers Dialogue: 0,0:44:31.86,0:44:35.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and slowly we convinced\Nthe parents not to come. Dialogue: 0,0:44:35.27,0:44:37.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But some parents wanted to be staff, Dialogue: 0,0:44:37.81,0:44:40.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so they came in the staff\Nto watch their kids. Dialogue: 0,0:44:40.67,0:44:42.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Anyhow, I was involved in this Dialogue: 0,0:44:42.94,0:44:46.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I had to slowly, skilfully\Nget rid of the parents. Dialogue: 0,0:44:46.82,0:44:48.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Laughter) Dialogue: 0,0:44:48.81,0:44:51.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And after six years, we finally had real - Dialogue: 0,0:44:51.51,0:44:53.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And every year we would do it. Dialogue: 0,0:44:54.07,0:44:56.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And one year, the sangha decided, Dialogue: 0,0:44:56.95,0:45:01.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Maybe we should combine\Nthe teenage program with the families, Dialogue: 0,0:45:01.34,0:45:03.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because we are doing too many retreats." Dialogue: 0,0:45:03.94,0:45:06.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I got really upset. Dialogue: 0,0:45:06.67,0:45:12.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was very, like, "You know\Nhow long it took to form that program?" Dialogue: 0,0:45:13.86,0:45:18.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I remember in that meeting\NI was quite not appropriate Dialogue: 0,0:45:19.26,0:45:21.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and not skillful. Dialogue: 0,0:45:21.69,0:45:23.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Laughter) Dialogue: 0,0:45:23.47,0:45:25.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is sangha building, you know? Dialogue: 0,0:45:25.74,0:45:28.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was doing good!\NI was building the sangha! Dialogue: 0,0:45:28.37,0:45:30.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Doing what Thay wants! Dialogue: 0,0:45:33.46,0:45:36.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But I didn't listen to anyone else. Dialogue: 0,0:45:36.67,0:45:39.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I pretended I listened, Dialogue: 0,0:45:39.75,0:45:43.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but I think I came back really hurt. Dialogue: 0,0:45:46.32,0:45:49.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I made a thing out of it.\NIt's a good thing, Dialogue: 0,0:45:50.92,0:45:53.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but still not good, because - Dialogue: 0,0:45:53.93,0:45:56.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was - Dialogue: 0,0:45:56.31,0:46:00.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Anyway, that is where the phrase\N"Don't make a thing out of it!" comes from. Dialogue: 0,0:46:01.01,0:46:04.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Don't make your thing become a "thing". Dialogue: 0,0:46:04.62,0:46:06.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Laughter) Dialogue: 0,0:46:06.25,0:46:08.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I know this is hard to translate. Dialogue: 0,0:46:08.83,0:46:10.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Laughter) Dialogue: 0,0:46:13.71,0:46:17.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That is involved with dogmatism. Dialogue: 0,0:46:17.70,0:46:22.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It is the technical word for it. Right?\NDogmatism, and other ism. Dialogue: 0,0:46:22.83,0:46:26.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The ism is you make whatever it is\Ninto an ism. Dialogue: 0,0:46:27.20,0:46:30.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That is to be careful of. Dialogue: 0,0:46:33.61,0:46:36.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So we move into appropriateness. Dialogue: 0,0:46:55.83,0:46:59.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Appropriateness in Vietnamese is Dialogue: 0,0:46:59.92,0:47:01.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"khế cỏ". Dialogue: 0,0:47:02.06,0:47:03.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[khế cỏ] Dialogue: 0,0:47:03.79,0:47:06.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I've just learned this morning\N"khế" is like - Dialogue: 0,0:47:11.15,0:47:14.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I said, I know what "cỏ" is, like Dialogue: 0,0:47:14.25,0:47:16.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Vietnamese) Dialogue: 0,0:47:16.27,0:47:18.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But what is "khế"? Dialogue: 0,0:47:18.78,0:47:21.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's appropriateness, right? Dialogue: 0,0:47:21.47,0:47:24.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But I don't know why there is two words. Dialogue: 0,0:47:24.42,0:47:27.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But it goes with "khế Lý", Dialogue: 0,0:47:28.25,0:47:30.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[khế Lý] Dialogue: 0,0:47:30.72,0:47:32.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which is - Dialogue: 0,0:47:34.18,0:47:37.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I keep forgetting that something today. Dialogue: 0,0:47:38.95,0:47:41.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Khế cỏ" and ""khế Lý", Dialogue: 0,0:47:42.34,0:47:43.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this is appropriate, Dialogue: 0,0:47:44.15,0:47:45.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[app.] Dialogue: 0,0:47:46.19,0:47:47.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to the situation. Dialogue: 0,0:47:48.53,0:47:50.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[situation] Dialogue: 0,0:47:52.96,0:47:55.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And this is appropriate Dialogue: 0,0:47:55.22,0:47:56.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[app.] Dialogue: 0,0:48:02.75,0:48:05.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to the principle, to the spirit, Dialogue: 0,0:48:09.53,0:48:11.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to the principle, Lý. Dialogue: 0,0:48:12.48,0:48:14.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[principle] Dialogue: 0,0:48:14.73,0:48:17.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Spirit. Dialogue: 0,0:48:17.33,0:48:18.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[spirit] Dialogue: 0,0:48:19.06,0:48:22.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Or in the Buddhist circle, we say maybe\Nto the Dharma. Dialogue: 0,0:48:23.14,0:48:25.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Dharma] Dialogue: 0,0:48:28.41,0:48:33.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,To whatever it is\Nthat makes you it feels OK. Dialogue: 0,0:48:37.22,0:48:39.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So there is a situation. Dialogue: 0,0:48:42.91,0:48:46.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And there is also the Dharma. Dialogue: 0,0:48:55.84,0:49:01.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Sometimes, the Dharma, if you teach it\Nand it is not appropriate, Dialogue: 0,0:49:02.40,0:49:04.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then it becomes - Dialogue: 0,0:49:05.08,0:49:08.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I don't know, it's hard,\Nbut like poisonous. Dialogue: 0,0:49:08.41,0:49:11.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Like you do harm to the Dharma. Dialogue: 0,0:49:11.87,0:49:13.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,For instance, you go home Dialogue: 0,0:49:14.03,0:49:17.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and you are so inspired\Nafter two weeks in Plum Village, Dialogue: 0,0:49:18.80,0:49:21.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,mindfulness! Dialogue: 0,0:49:21.52,0:49:23.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Plum Village! Dialogue: 0,0:49:23.48,0:49:26.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And you go home\Nand you tell it to your family, Dialogue: 0,0:49:28.82,0:49:33.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Eating in silence is so good for you!\NYou touche peace." Dialogue: 0,0:49:34.06,0:49:37.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But you don't know\Nthe situation, the person. Dialogue: 0,0:49:37.97,0:49:41.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You don't know the situation\Nof your family is not appropriate. Dialogue: 0,0:49:42.08,0:49:46.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It is not skillful, it is not appropriate,\Nthey are not ready. Dialogue: 0,0:49:46.33,0:49:49.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The Dharma is not for that. Dialogue: 0,0:49:49.98,0:49:51.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You go to the Dharma Dialogue: 0,0:49:52.06,0:49:55.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but it is not something\Nyou put in the Dharma. Dialogue: 0,0:49:55.45,0:49:58.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We hear this all the time from - Dialogue: 0,0:50:00.67,0:50:05.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's my own experience as well as many\Nconsultations and Dharma sharings. Dialogue: 0,0:50:05.89,0:50:10.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So knowing what is appropriate\Nfor the situation, for our time. Dialogue: 0,0:50:15.20,0:50:19.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I remember first learning about\Nthe practice, my first retreat. Dialogue: 0,0:50:19.85,0:50:24.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I came home, and I organized\Neverything in our house. Dialogue: 0,0:50:24.69,0:50:28.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I put everything back\Nto where it should go, the shoes. Dialogue: 0,0:50:29.29,0:50:33.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then the closet,\NI helped my mum redo her food stuff, Dialogue: 0,0:50:33.62,0:50:35.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the cans, can food. Dialogue: 0,0:50:36.99,0:50:40.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It became an obsession.\NBecause I had an idea Dialogue: 0,0:50:41.33,0:50:46.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that when you put things mindfully,\Nit goes back to where it should be. Dialogue: 0,0:50:46.88,0:50:50.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You all have that idea?\NAs a beginning practitioner? Dialogue: 0,0:50:50.22,0:50:53.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's the most beautiful and tempting idea. Dialogue: 0,0:50:53.47,0:50:56.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,To practice mindfulness\Nwhen you put a cup down, Dialogue: 0,0:50:56.40,0:50:58.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it has a place. Dialogue: 0,0:50:58.82,0:51:02.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I mean, it makes sense, right?\NBut when it becomes an obsession - Dialogue: 0,0:51:03.40,0:51:06.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Ow! OK, that toothbrush is not - Dialogue: 0,0:51:07.26,0:51:09.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It goes in here, eh? Dialogue: 0,0:51:09.83,0:51:12.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The shoe, it goes there! Dialogue: 0,0:51:12.99,0:51:17.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,These mats should be straighter. Dialogue: 0,0:51:19.78,0:51:21.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So we begin to - Dialogue: 0,0:51:21.82,0:51:24.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then I go home\Nand I do this to the house. Dialogue: 0,0:51:25.67,0:51:30.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,My two brothers were back from college,\Nback for the summer, Dialogue: 0,0:51:30.22,0:51:32.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and we shared the same house. Dialogue: 0,0:51:32.94,0:51:34.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Laughter) Dialogue: 0,0:51:35.67,0:51:38.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And the story, you know. Dialogue: 0,0:51:39.23,0:51:42.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We had a lot of interesting conversations. Dialogue: 0,0:51:43.06,0:51:45.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They were fully not open. Dialogue: 0,0:51:45.62,0:51:47.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Laughter) Dialogue: 0,0:51:47.64,0:51:49.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I caused a lot of suffering Dialogue: 0,0:51:49.96,0:51:57.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because of my "Lý" law. Dialogue: 0,0:51:58.14,0:52:00.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I had a reason for everything. Dialogue: 0,0:52:01.14,0:52:03.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And because it's "Lý" - Dialogue: 0,0:52:06.14,0:52:11.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So when something is appropriate,\Nit is also in line with the Dharma, Dialogue: 0,0:52:11.52,0:52:17.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in line with something more true,\Nmore human, more open, more whatever, Dialogue: 0,0:52:17.54,0:52:19.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,less suffering. Dialogue: 0,0:52:19.85,0:52:23.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If it is appropriate,\Nit will not cause suffering. Dialogue: 0,0:52:24.74,0:52:28.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is something\Nwe need to ingrain in ourselves. Dialogue: 0,0:52:28.69,0:52:33.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because we believe so much in truth,\Nwe believe that this really happened, Dialogue: 0,0:52:34.61,0:52:36.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and we say it. Dialogue: 0,0:52:36.88,0:52:38.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"But it is the truth!" Dialogue: 0,0:52:39.62,0:52:42.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But the person is not ready for it. Dialogue: 0,0:52:43.56,0:52:46.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So we cause suffering.\NTruth does not harm. Dialogue: 0,0:52:47.83,0:52:51.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But we have an idea about truth,\Nthat it is objective. Dialogue: 0,0:52:51.37,0:52:55.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Somewhere there is a truth.\N"This is really what happened!". Dialogue: 0,0:52:57.28,0:53:00.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And we cause suffering\Nbecause of our truth. Dialogue: 0,0:53:00.21,0:53:02.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There are many truths. Dialogue: 0,0:53:02.67,0:53:04.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And that is very hard to believe. Dialogue: 0,0:53:05.08,0:53:07.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Specially when you are right. Dialogue: 0,0:53:07.38,0:53:09.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Laughter) Dialogue: 0,0:53:09.15,0:53:11.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When you are right, it is like, Dialogue: 0,0:53:11.85,0:53:15.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"OK, I give it a year,\Nbut I'm still right." Dialogue: 0,0:53:19.70,0:53:23.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,A lot of suffering, for yourself as well,\Nbecause you hold it like this Dialogue: 0,0:53:24.02,0:53:28.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and when you see that brother you kind of-\NYou see that sister, you kind of- Dialogue: 0,0:53:28.29,0:53:30.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because you are holding on to something. Dialogue: 0,0:53:30.85,0:53:33.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Remember that image, eh?\NYou have a choice! Dialogue: 0,0:53:36.33,0:53:37.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Relax. Dialogue: 0,0:53:38.13,0:53:41.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's true, but, you know,\Nthere are many truths. Dialogue: 0,0:53:42.09,0:53:44.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It is such a hard training. Dialogue: 0,0:53:44.56,0:53:47.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If you want to taste it,\Ncome and stay here one year. Dialogue: 0,0:53:47.72,0:53:49.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We will put you in the cooking team. Dialogue: 0,0:53:50.11,0:53:51.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Laughter) Dialogue: 0,0:53:51.86,0:53:54.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Like the brother shared.\NAdvance training. Dialogue: 0,0:53:55.20,0:53:59.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I already shared that in the lay -\NNo, he shared - Dialogue: 0,0:53:59.65,0:54:03.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The cooking team\Nis the most advanced training. Dialogue: 0,0:54:03.72,0:54:08.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's strange for a monastery. Dialogue: 0,0:54:08.20,0:54:10.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It is supposed to be\Nin the meditation hall. Dialogue: 0,0:54:12.74,0:54:15.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Sorry, I'm a comedian. Dialogue: 0,0:54:15.41,0:54:17.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Laughter) Dialogue: 0,0:54:17.72,0:54:20.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When we say "khế Lý", Dialogue: 0,0:54:20.66,0:54:23.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,how do we know it is appropriate? Dialogue: 0,0:54:23.32,0:54:29.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This requires us to go deeper and deeper\Nas we do the sangha building, Dialogue: 0,0:54:29.34,0:54:33.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as we become OI members,\Nto touch interbeing, and so on. Dialogue: 0,0:54:33.99,0:54:37.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The three, the six,\Nthe three, the two threes. Dialogue: 0,0:54:38.39,0:54:42.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Just remember, the three seals\Nand the three doors. Dialogue: 0,0:54:44.86,0:54:47.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And you use that to test everything. Dialogue: 0,0:54:47.90,0:54:52.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You want to experiment? Go ahead,\Nbut use these to test. Dialogue: 0,0:54:52.61,0:54:56.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In chemistry it is called litmus paper. Dialogue: 0,0:54:57.71,0:55:00.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You throw it in to see\Nif it is the right thing. Dialogue: 0,0:55:01.02,0:55:06.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In Vietnamese, they say,\N"Use fire to test gold." Dialogue: 0,0:55:07.43,0:55:11.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Vietnamese) Dialogue: 0,0:55:12.27,0:55:14.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It is a beautiful saying. Dialogue: 0,0:55:14.69,0:55:18.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You want to see if it's real gold?\NPut fire to it. Dialogue: 0,0:55:19.89,0:55:24.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And all the impurities,\Nthey separate and the gold collects. Dialogue: 0,0:55:24.85,0:55:29.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So the three seals,\NI think you know them already. Dialogue: 0,0:55:31.05,0:55:33.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Some of you. Three Seals. Dialogue: 0,0:55:35.20,0:55:37.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[3 Seals] Dialogue: 0,0:55:38.52,0:55:40.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What are they? Dialogue: 0,0:55:40.48,0:55:42.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Impermanence, Dialogue: 0,0:55:43.25,0:55:46.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Impermanence] Dialogue: 0,0:55:47.83,0:55:49.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Non-self, Dialogue: 0,0:55:49.96,0:55:51.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Non-self] Dialogue: 0,0:55:52.44,0:55:54.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and Nirvana. Dialogue: 0,0:55:54.37,0:55:56.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Nirvana] Dialogue: 0,0:55:57.02,0:55:59.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is 3 Doors. Dialogue: 0,0:55:59.63,0:56:01.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[3 Doors] Dialogue: 0,0:56:02.68,0:56:04.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Trois portes." Dialogue: 0,0:56:05.37,0:56:07.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Just remember the "s"s. Dialogue: 0,0:56:07.64,0:56:09.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[ss] Dialogue: 0,0:56:10.32,0:56:11.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Right? Dialogue: 0,0:56:11.99,0:56:13.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Empty, Dialogue: 0,0:56:13.60,0:56:14.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[E] Dialogue: 0,0:56:15.16,0:56:17.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,signless, Dialogue: 0,0:56:17.58,0:56:18.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[S] Dialogue: 0,0:56:19.02,0:56:20.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Aimless. Dialogue: 0,0:56:20.74,0:56:22.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[A] Dialogue: 0,0:56:23.25,0:56:25.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That is how I remember it, sorry. Dialogue: 0,0:56:25.42,0:56:29.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I just remember the three doors,\N"ss", remember. Dialogue: 0,0:56:29.15,0:56:33.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Emptiness, signlessness, aimlessness. Dialogue: 0,0:56:33.81,0:56:36.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And this helps us in our practice. Dialogue: 0,0:56:39.22,0:56:42.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When you make a thing out of it, Dialogue: 0,0:56:43.46,0:56:47.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's no longer very related\Nto other things, right? Dialogue: 0,0:56:49.56,0:56:53.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And we become caught by it. Dialogue: 0,0:56:56.73,0:57:01.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Sign" here also represents\Nwords, concepts. Dialogue: 0,0:57:08.15,0:57:11.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There is one word that challenges people. Dialogue: 0,0:57:11.23,0:57:17.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When we do the morning recitation,\Nbefore the nuns and monks chant, Dialogue: 0,0:57:17.84,0:57:24.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we say, "Remove your inferiority complex,\Nsuperiority complex Dialogue: 0,0:57:25.47,0:57:28.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and your equality complex." Dialogue: 0,0:57:29.34,0:57:33.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When Thay first came out with that text,\Nand we had to tour the US, Dialogue: 0,0:57:34.47,0:57:39.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,many people asked this question,\N"What's wrong with equality?, Dialogue: 0,0:57:39.82,0:57:42.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,How is that a complex?" Dialogue: 0,0:57:46.17,0:57:50.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The word "equality"\Nor the idea of equality Dialogue: 0,0:57:51.39,0:57:53.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,can be a thing. Dialogue: 0,0:57:56.25,0:57:58.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Who has a thing about equality? Dialogue: 0,0:57:59.91,0:58:02.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,How come the monks\Nare sitting at one side, Dialogue: 0,0:58:02.46,0:58:05.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,at the non-monks and\Nthe nuns sitting at the other side? Dialogue: 0,0:58:06.52,0:58:11.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Or, how come the nuns have smaller bowls\Nand the monks have bigger bowls? Dialogue: 0,0:58:11.74,0:58:16.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Or, how come the bell is always\Non that side?, or, what else? Dialogue: 0,0:58:17.79,0:58:19.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There are so many. Dialogue: 0,0:58:19.75,0:58:22.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,How come the grass\Nis greener on this side? Dialogue: 0,0:58:22.44,0:58:24.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Laughter) Dialogue: 0,0:58:26.16,0:58:28.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There are some good ones, eh? Dialogue: 0,0:58:28.76,0:58:31.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I used to have a -\NWe should make a catalog Dialogue: 0,0:58:31.90,0:58:35.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of equality as a thing. Dialogue: 0,0:58:39.54,0:58:42.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It is a complex. Equality is good, Dialogue: 0,0:58:43.54,0:58:48.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and getting people to -\NInjustice causes suffering. Dialogue: 0,0:58:50.10,0:58:54.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Inequality can cause suffering. Dialogue: 0,0:58:54.78,0:58:57.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So it's not to deny Dialogue: 0,0:58:57.41,0:59:01.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that that is happening\Nin our world as well. Dialogue: 0,0:59:01.99,0:59:04.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But just don't make a thing out of it. Dialogue: 0,0:59:05.61,0:59:08.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Going everywhere to always look for - Dialogue: 0,0:59:12.78,0:59:16.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is not to be caught by dualism. Dialogue: 0,0:59:17.24,0:59:20.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It is all skillful means. Dialogue: 0,0:59:20.69,0:59:23.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We wear this just for Dialogue: 0,0:59:24.48,0:59:30.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a way to skillfully do something,\Nto manifest something. Dialogue: 0,0:59:31.26,0:59:36.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When Thay was in Vietnam,\Nor in America touring, Dialogue: 0,0:59:36.25,0:59:38.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a reporter asked him, Dialogue: 0,0:59:39.11,0:59:42.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Are you from the North\Nor from the South?" Dialogue: 0,0:59:42.25,0:59:44.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Do you know that story? Dialogue: 0,0:59:44.79,0:59:48.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And Thay says,\N"I am from the Center." Dialogue: 0,0:59:49.44,0:59:52.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He is from the center. Dialogue: 0,0:59:53.15,0:59:55.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,From Hue, or something like that. Dialogue: 0,0:59:56.69,1:00:00.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He is from the center.\NAnd we love that story, I love that story. Dialogue: 0,1:00:05.64,1:00:10.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If we are not careful, we can\Nmake the "center" become a thing. Dialogue: 0,1:00:10.87,1:00:13.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I've seen that,\Nliving in the monastery. Dialogue: 0,1:00:13.85,1:00:16.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You don't want to choose left or right,\Nthen you choose the middle. Dialogue: 0,1:00:16.99,1:00:21.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And you are always choosing the middle.\NYou make a "thing" out of centralness. Dialogue: 0,1:00:36.22,1:00:38.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You are- Dialogue: 0,1:00:44.46,1:00:47.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We get caught, so the idea of centralness Dialogue: 0,1:00:47.75,1:00:51.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is to help the reporter in that situation. Dialogue: 0,1:00:53.37,1:00:55.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,To take away his idea Dialogue: 0,1:00:56.32,1:00:58.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that there is just North and South. Dialogue: 0,1:00:59.89,1:01:02.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So that is the means. Dialogue: 0,1:01:02.28,1:01:07.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Thay uses that answer to help\Nthat reporter in that moment Dialogue: 0,1:01:09.07,1:01:12.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to let go of his North and South. Dialogue: 0,1:01:12.62,1:01:16.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But us, when we hear the story,\Nwe love it Dialogue: 0,1:01:16.53,1:01:19.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then we hang on to centralness. Dialogue: 0,1:01:20.60,1:01:23.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And we go around being careful. Dialogue: 0,1:01:24.30,1:01:27.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"No, I'm not choosing! No!" Dialogue: 0,1:01:28.96,1:01:31.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And that becomes an obstacle. Dialogue: 0,1:01:32.95,1:01:36.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We become like relative, liberal, Dialogue: 0,1:01:37.09,1:01:40.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,not always - Let's see. Dialogue: 0,1:01:41.21,1:01:45.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It seems like I'm open,\Nbut actually I'm very tight. Dialogue: 0,1:01:46.46,1:01:49.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That is stuckness. Dialogue: 0,1:01:53.01,1:01:57.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is from my own suffering\Nof practicing with that. Dialogue: 0,1:01:58.58,1:02:01.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Of always avoiding each team Dialogue: 0,1:02:01.48,1:02:03.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to the point where - Dialogue: 0,1:02:04.85,1:02:07.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know what is the right thing to do. Dialogue: 0,1:02:14.30,1:02:16.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There is also - Dialogue: 0,1:02:16.62,1:02:19.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The idea here is Dialogue: 0,1:02:20.34,1:02:22.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when it is true to the Dharma, Dialogue: 0,1:02:25.60,1:02:29.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is to not be caught by the word\Nby the sign. Dialogue: 0,1:02:30.83,1:02:33.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Therefore, you don't grasp. Dialogue: 0,1:02:33.99,1:02:36.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That is the aimlessness. Dialogue: 0,1:02:36.49,1:02:39.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You need a little freedom from that. Dialogue: 0,1:02:40.19,1:02:42.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,These are all - Dialogue: 0,1:02:42.13,1:02:44.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,These three, three, Dialogue: 0,1:02:45.88,1:02:50.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are - Thay would say concentrations,\Nthey help us. Dialogue: 0,1:02:50.92,1:02:55.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You may choose a week\Nto contemplate signlessness. Dialogue: 0,1:02:58.60,1:03:02.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,To look and to see\Nwhere you are caught with signs Dialogue: 0,1:03:03.22,1:03:06.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and to test for yourself. Dialogue: 0,1:03:06.96,1:03:09.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Or aimlessness. Dialogue: 0,1:03:09.48,1:03:13.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In a way, they are like\NPlum Village's koans, Dialogue: 0,1:03:13.46,1:03:19.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,something that you can hold here like\Na mother carrying her child around. Dialogue: 0,1:03:20.58,1:03:23.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And you begin to look like that. Dialogue: 0,1:03:24.10,1:03:30.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You look and you discern\Nwhen you are being not aimless. Dialogue: 0,1:03:31.45,1:03:36.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You want something,\Nso you come back to your steps. Dialogue: 0,1:03:37.76,1:03:44.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The tea will still be there,\Nthe hot water will still be there, Dialogue: 0,1:03:46.52,1:03:49.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so you slow yourself down. Dialogue: 0,1:03:49.85,1:03:55.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So these practices, these ideas here\Nare for us to practice. Dialogue: 0,1:03:56.21,1:03:59.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What I share with you is - Dialogue: 0,1:03:59.75,1:04:03.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Watch when you are not being aimless. Dialogue: 0,1:04:03.95,1:04:07.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But how to touch aimlessness\Nwhile we walk? Dialogue: 0,1:04:08.74,1:04:11.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You make a step, a left step, Dialogue: 0,1:04:13.91,1:04:16.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a right step. Dialogue: 0,1:04:19.24,1:04:21.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Or aimlessness when you eat. Dialogue: 0,1:04:22.21,1:04:24.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When you put a morsel in your mouth, Dialogue: 0,1:04:24.73,1:04:28.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you put the spoon down. Dialogue: 0,1:04:28.55,1:04:30.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And you chew. Dialogue: 0,1:04:31.08,1:04:34.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And you put a hundred per cent\Nin the act of chewing. Dialogue: 0,1:04:34.50,1:04:40.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Savoring the food, contemplation\Nwith nature and Mother Earth, the sun, Dialogue: 0,1:04:42.38,1:04:46.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,before you take the next spoon.\NI remember having to train this. Dialogue: 0,1:04:47.51,1:04:50.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When I'm chewing,\NI'm preparing for the next one. Dialogue: 0,1:04:52.57,1:04:56.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's a big habit I had to remove. Dialogue: 0,1:04:57.85,1:05:00.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The same thing with our walking. Dialogue: 0,1:05:01.04,1:05:03.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,These two are very trainable. Dialogue: 0,1:05:05.74,1:05:10.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But they can help us also\Nwhen we have ideas and concepts. Dialogue: 0,1:05:12.11,1:05:18.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When we practice the trainings, and\Nwe will learn more these coming weeks, Dialogue: 0,1:05:19.89,1:05:26.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they speak of a truth, of a way, Dialogue: 0,1:05:26.77,1:05:30.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but we need to know when to apply it, Dialogue: 0,1:05:31.58,1:05:34.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so that it is appropriate\Nfor the situation with the people, Dialogue: 0,1:05:36.29,1:05:40.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and if it is appropriate to the Dharma, Dialogue: 0,1:05:40.14,1:05:46.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to the guiding spirit\Nof the Buddhist teachings. Dialogue: 0,1:05:49.33,1:05:52.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think Thay has shared - Dialogue: 0,1:05:54.12,1:05:57.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,To prepare to operate on someone Dialogue: 0,1:05:57.70,1:05:59.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they need to be healthy. Dialogue: 0,1:06:02.90,1:06:05.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You prepare and you - Dialogue: 0,1:06:05.97,1:06:07.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's kind of - Dialogue: 0,1:06:08.01,1:06:10.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That is tough, eh? Dialogue: 0,1:06:10.70,1:06:13.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But sometimes it's like that, I think Dialogue: 0,1:06:15.68,1:06:18.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Thay's method, I sensed that. Dialogue: 0,1:06:18.77,1:06:22.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When we first come in the community\NThay is very gentle with us. Dialogue: 0,1:06:23.99,1:06:26.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He nurtures us. Dialogue: 0,1:06:26.20,1:06:30.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Everything, he flower-waters us. Dialogue: 0,1:06:30.41,1:06:32.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He pushes it. Dialogue: 0,1:06:32.91,1:06:36.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then, when we have enough\Nstrong roots, Thay starts to trim. Dialogue: 0,1:06:37.30,1:06:39.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Laughter) Dialogue: 0,1:06:39.61,1:06:42.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Have you been trimmed by Thay before? Dialogue: 0,1:06:42.60,1:06:44.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You're lucky. Dialogue: 0,1:06:44.84,1:06:46.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because it is painful. Dialogue: 0,1:06:47.14,1:06:48.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Laughter) Dialogue: 0,1:06:48.43,1:06:50.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Operation. Dialogue: 0,1:06:50.41,1:06:54.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because you have something\Nyou're holding on to. Dialogue: 0,1:07:00.54,1:07:01.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And - Dialogue: 0,1:07:03.37,1:07:05.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Laughter) Dialogue: 0,1:07:05.49,1:07:07.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And one mourns. Dialogue: 0,1:07:08.51,1:07:11.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It touches your ego. Dialogue: 0,1:07:12.28,1:07:17.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So there is not enough liberation.\NYou had an idea about it. Dialogue: 0,1:07:18.83,1:07:22.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Something, whatever that is\Nyou're holding on too tightly. Dialogue: 0,1:07:24.03,1:07:27.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In the sangha building\Nit is very important Dialogue: 0,1:07:27.65,1:07:31.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that we get this one done. Dialogue: 0,1:07:32.08,1:07:35.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because we sometimes bring the stuff\Nthat has not ripened, Dialogue: 0,1:07:36.04,1:07:38.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,has not let go yet, Dialogue: 0,1:07:38.39,1:07:40.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and we start to sangha-build, Dialogue: 0,1:07:41.34,1:07:44.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we make sangha become a thing Dialogue: 0,1:07:46.04,1:07:47.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and so on. Dialogue: 0,1:07:47.69,1:07:51.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But inside of us it\Nis not fully, still, fully - Dialogue: 0,1:07:51.77,1:07:54.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There are certain things still - Dialogue: 0,1:07:54.36,1:07:56.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And that can come and bite you. Dialogue: 0,1:07:57.74,1:08:00.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The Buddhist teaching is not for us to do Dialogue: 0,1:08:00.88,1:08:02.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Vietnamese). Dialogue: 0,1:08:02.58,1:08:06.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's to help us relieve our suffering\Nand in doing so we - Dialogue: 0,1:08:07.100,1:08:10.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,inter-be with the world. Dialogue: 0,1:08:10.90,1:08:13.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And how we do it? Dialogue: 0,1:08:13.95,1:08:18.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You can see this in today's society. Dialogue: 0,1:08:18.73,1:08:22.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,People build up, fame, power. Dialogue: 0,1:08:23.21,1:08:25.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,After ten, twenty years,\Nwhat happens? Dialogue: 0,1:08:26.14,1:08:28.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They did not ripen. Dialogue: 0,1:08:30.06,1:08:34.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Sexual scandals,\Npolitical scandals, corruption. Dialogue: 0,1:08:35.10,1:08:38.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There is a movement going on\Nthat is so beautiful in society. Dialogue: 0,1:08:38.96,1:08:42.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It is like the rain washing Dialogue: 0,1:08:42.29,1:08:44.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and revealing. Dialogue: 0,1:08:47.90,1:08:53.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Other things are going on\Nunderneath of that fame, power, wealth. Dialogue: 0,1:08:54.02,1:08:56.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Political and- Dialogue: 0,1:08:56.58,1:09:00.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In the political world,\Nin the corporate world Dialogue: 0,1:09:00.22,1:09:03.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as well as in the entertainment world. Dialogue: 0,1:09:03.30,1:09:08.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is because the person\Ndid not do the homework. Dialogue: 0,1:09:08.94,1:09:12.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Did not care for the ripening inside. Dialogue: 0,1:09:12.34,1:09:17.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But they were tempted\Nwith external achievements, success. Dialogue: 0,1:09:19.52,1:09:24.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is where direct experience,\Ndirect liberation, Dialogue: 0,1:09:24.86,1:09:28.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,direct touching of peace, happiness. Dialogue: 0,1:09:30.13,1:09:32.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When you do this, Dialogue: 0,1:09:32.40,1:09:36.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you become\Nmore appropriate, more skillful. Dialogue: 0,1:09:40.17,1:09:43.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We are moving to skillfulness in here. Dialogue: 0,1:09:44.21,1:09:46.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In Vietnamese, Dialogue: 0,1:10:03.29,1:10:05.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is "phủỏng tiện". Dialogue: 0,1:10:06.06,1:10:10.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Phủỏng tiện] Dialogue: 0,1:10:18.14,1:10:21.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,These are the methods and practices Dialogue: 0,1:10:22.40,1:10:24.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to help us teach, Dialogue: 0,1:10:24.65,1:10:27.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to guide and to apply\Nthe Buddhist teachings. Dialogue: 0,1:10:27.79,1:10:30.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,These are the ways we do it. Dialogue: 0,1:10:34.96,1:10:37.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Skillfulness here Dialogue: 0,1:10:41.60,1:10:44.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,can be seen as a means, Dialogue: 0,1:10:44.68,1:10:46.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,skillful means. Dialogue: 0,1:10:46.87,1:10:49.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[s. means] Dialogue: 0,1:10:52.74,1:10:54.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think it is Dialogue: 0,1:10:55.24,1:10:58.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,very fundamental in the Buddhist teachings Dialogue: 0,1:10:59.07,1:11:01.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it has great examples. Dialogue: 0,1:11:01.87,1:11:03.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The raft, Dialogue: 0,1:11:04.16,1:11:07.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when you get to a river\Nand you see you need to cross, Dialogue: 0,1:11:07.95,1:11:10.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and you build yourself a raft. Dialogue: 0,1:11:10.39,1:11:13.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It helps you cross the river. Dialogue: 0,1:11:14.78,1:11:18.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And you get attached \Nbecause the raft is so cool. Dialogue: 0,1:11:19.05,1:11:23.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You did it by yourself, by hand\Nand you start carrying the raft around Dialogue: 0,1:11:25.11,1:11:27.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,even though you don't need it anymore. Dialogue: 0,1:11:27.82,1:11:31.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And the Buddha says, "It is a wise thing\Nto do, brothers and sisters? Dialogue: 0,1:11:34.79,1:11:37.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,To carry a raft around?" Dialogue: 0,1:11:38.09,1:11:41.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And, of course, the students\Nreply obediently, Dialogue: 0,1:11:42.10,1:11:44.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"No, no, it's not a skillful thing to do. Dialogue: 0,1:11:45.07,1:11:47.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You should leave it there\Nand share it with others,\N Dialogue: 0,1:11:47.93,1:11:51.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,be generous because they might need it." Dialogue: 0,1:11:51.58,1:11:54.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But we have to ask ourselves,\Ndo we do that? Dialogue: 0,1:11:59.75,1:12:02.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So there are skillful means. Dialogue: 0,1:12:04.81,1:12:07.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's very easy to get caught Dialogue: 0,1:12:12.03,1:12:14.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,by the raft. Dialogue: 0,1:12:22.32,1:12:25.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So appropriateness and skillfulness. Dialogue: 0,1:12:25.86,1:12:29.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think those are areas where we Dialogue: 0,1:12:32.93,1:12:35.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,learn a lot from living in the sangha. Dialogue: 0,1:12:36.59,1:12:39.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We make mistakes and we adjust. Dialogue: 0,1:12:40.59,1:12:45.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They allow us to be creative,\Nallow us to - Dialogue: 0,1:12:47.79,1:12:52.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's not a perfection in our rhythm\Nand there is no manual. Dialogue: 0,1:12:54.06,1:12:59.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So we can always continue to be\Nmore appropriate, more skillful. Dialogue: 0,1:13:01.12,1:13:03.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'll read you a text Dialogue: 0,1:13:05.51,1:13:11.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from the book, Interbeing book,\NThay wrote: Dialogue: 0,1:13:12.10,1:13:18.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"The spirit of non-attachment to views\Nand the spirit of direct experimentation Dialogue: 0,1:13:20.11,1:13:27.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,lead to open-mindedness and compassion,\Nboth in the realm of perception of reality Dialogue: 0,1:13:28.63,1:13:31.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and in the area of relationships." Dialogue: 0,1:13:35.19,1:13:39.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So openness and direct experimentation, Dialogue: 0,1:13:40.01,1:13:44.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it keeps us open to experiencing life,\Nexperiencing, Dialogue: 0,1:13:46.31,1:13:48.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,being alive, interacting. Dialogue: 0,1:13:48.89,1:13:51.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And there is the word compassion in it. Dialogue: 0,1:13:51.80,1:13:54.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It helps us be compassionate.\NVery important. Dialogue: 0,1:13:55.10,1:13:59.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So it's not to experiment\Nto be open like a scientist, Dialogue: 0,1:14:00.76,1:14:05.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but in the Buddhist tradition Dialogue: 0,1:14:06.20,1:14:08.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it is based on compassion. Dialogue: 0,1:14:09.36,1:14:15.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It is to relieve suffering, it's not just\Nto describe reality and the world, Dialogue: 0,1:14:15.74,1:14:18.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or how the mind works and so on. Dialogue: 0,1:14:18.55,1:14:20.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But just enough Dialogue: 0,1:14:20.51,1:14:24.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so that there is compassion in the world, Dialogue: 0,1:14:24.79,1:14:28.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in society, in our families, in ourselves. Dialogue: 0,1:14:29.21,1:14:34.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is a distinction\Nfrom the scientific endeavor, Dialogue: 0,1:14:35.12,1:14:39.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which is to try to figure out\Nhow this thing works, Dialogue: 0,1:14:39.86,1:14:42.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where do we come from, and so on. Dialogue: 0,1:14:42.52,1:14:47.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Sometimes interacting with\Nscientists and the sciences, Dialogue: 0,1:14:47.95,1:14:53.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if we are not careful, we can also lose\Na little bit of the "khế Lý", Dialogue: 0,1:14:55.07,1:14:59.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the primary reason for\Nthe Buddha's finding the teachings Dialogue: 0,1:14:59.78,1:15:02.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the practices\Nto help relieve suffering. Dialogue: 0,1:15:03.19,1:15:08.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It is not to come up with a new theory\Nabout the world or about our minds Dialogue: 0,1:15:08.70,1:15:10.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and how things work. Dialogue: 0,1:15:14.85,1:15:17.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"The spirit of appropriateness \Nand skillful means Dialogue: 0,1:15:18.34,1:15:23.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,lead to the capacity to be creative\Nand to reconcile, Dialogue: 0,1:15:23.90,1:15:28.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,both of which are necessary for the\Ndevelopment and the effective realization Dialogue: 0,1:15:29.34,1:15:32.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of the idea of serving living beings." Dialogue: 0,1:15:33.25,1:15:35.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is very Mahayana. Dialogue: 0,1:15:37.46,1:15:39.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Save the world! Dialogue: 0,1:15:41.50,1:15:44.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Reconcile" here can be\Nincorporate, to integrate. Dialogue: 0,1:15:45.86,1:15:50.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So appropriateness and skillful means\Nhelp us be in touch Dialogue: 0,1:15:50.77,1:15:53.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with what is happening in our world. Dialogue: 0,1:15:54.90,1:15:58.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And to find ways\Nto help relieve the suffering. Dialogue: 0,1:16:01.32,1:16:04.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think most of you know,\Nwho are here, Dialogue: 0,1:16:04.38,1:16:09.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that one of the primary sufferings\Nin the world now is climate change. Dialogue: 0,1:16:12.27,1:16:15.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You can hear it already\Nin weather reports. Dialogue: 0,1:16:15.78,1:16:19.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It seems like they are from movies, Dialogue: 0,1:16:20.54,1:16:22.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but they are not- Dialogue: 0,1:16:22.78,1:16:26.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Climate change isn't going\Nto come anymore, it is here. Dialogue: 0,1:16:27.55,1:16:33.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And many of us may have families\Nin some parts of the world. Dialogue: 0,1:16:34.41,1:16:37.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Indonesia recently,\NI think two days ago, Dialogue: 0,1:16:37.90,1:16:39.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,had a big tsunami. Dialogue: 0,1:16:39.97,1:16:45.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This will, scientists predict, will occur\Nmore regular and more regularly. Dialogue: 0,1:16:46.19,1:16:49.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That means displacement of population. Dialogue: 0,1:16:50.56,1:16:53.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So we have to prepare us so, Dialogue: 0,1:16:53.50,1:16:55.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,not to be in despair, Dialogue: 0,1:16:57.46,1:17:01.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to be aware, to be mindful\Nof the present moment. Dialogue: 0,1:17:03.25,1:17:06.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And adjust. We have suffering,\Nwe have some healing to do, Dialogue: 0,1:17:07.17,1:17:09.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we have some transformation. Dialogue: 0,1:17:10.52,1:17:14.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That is why Thay has dedicated\Nhis whole life to building the sangha, Dialogue: 0,1:17:14.28,1:17:16.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to building a refuge. Dialogue: 0,1:17:17.12,1:17:18.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So climate change, Dialogue: 0,1:17:25.41,1:17:29.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,alienation, loneliness,\Ndespair, depression, Dialogue: 0,1:17:32.39,1:17:35.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,suicide, these numbers are on the rise. Dialogue: 0,1:17:36.92,1:17:40.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because of urbanization\Nand the breakdown of families. Dialogue: 0,1:17:41.05,1:17:44.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Whatever in your field you're working on. Dialogue: 0,1:17:45.60,1:17:50.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,These are real issues of our society\Nand they are not happening out there. Dialogue: 0,1:17:51.78,1:17:54.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They are very connected Dialogue: 0,1:17:54.67,1:17:58.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to how we are in the world now. Dialogue: 0,1:17:59.06,1:18:02.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Young people having no direction, Dialogue: 0,1:18:03.74,1:18:07.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,being restless\Nbecause of the media industry. Dialogue: 0,1:18:08.86,1:18:12.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,These are all thought about and mastered. Dialogue: 0,1:18:14.12,1:18:20.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It is not coincidental,\Nthe mechanism that drives capitalism Dialogue: 0,1:18:21.89,1:18:24.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,while we are so like - Dialogue: 0,1:18:25.21,1:18:27.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,My niece, it is hard for her Dialogue: 0,1:18:28.19,1:18:32.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to put down the gadget, the screen. Dialogue: 0,1:18:34.30,1:18:35.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is not - Dialogue: 0,1:18:37.65,1:18:42.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We have, we do have\Nsome contribution to make. Dialogue: 0,1:18:43.90,1:18:45.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's not to say just - Dialogue: 0,1:18:46.00,1:18:50.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And this is what I love about Thay's work.\NWe don't wait until we are liberated, Dialogue: 0,1:18:51.14,1:18:55.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or find peace and then do the good work. Dialogue: 0,1:18:55.45,1:18:59.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Actually, interbeing is\Nwe transform ourselves Dialogue: 0,1:19:01.24,1:19:04.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and we help transform the world. Dialogue: 0,1:19:04.20,1:19:08.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Whatever scope your are in.\NIt can be on your individual level, Dialogue: 0,1:19:09.18,1:19:13.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because so much suffering\Nyou cannot be involved, Dialogue: 0,1:19:14.64,1:19:18.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and you take care of yourself.\NMake yourself less grumpy, Dialogue: 0,1:19:19.25,1:19:26.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,less obnoxious, less whatever,\Nless provoking, reactive. Dialogue: 0,1:19:27.14,1:19:29.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Personal level. Dialogue: 0,1:19:29.18,1:19:31.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Or group level, family. Dialogue: 0,1:19:32.16,1:19:34.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Work on the family level, Dialogue: 0,1:19:34.68,1:19:38.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,work on your neighborhood,\Nwhat can you do for your neighborhood? Dialogue: 0,1:19:40.23,1:19:46.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,How can you help build a sangha to be a\Nrefuge in your city for the neighborhood? Dialogue: 0,1:19:47.54,1:19:52.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because you see young people no longer\Ngoing to church, going to temples. Dialogue: 0,1:19:53.43,1:19:56.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And they are looking for\Na spiritual direction. Dialogue: 0,1:19:56.84,1:20:00.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Building sangha, Thay has shared,\Nis the most noble task, Dialogue: 0,1:20:00.67,1:20:04.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because they are refugee camps,\Nthey are like refugee camps. Dialogue: 0,1:20:07.20,1:20:10.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Refugees in the media are lot lately. Dialogue: 0,1:20:11.43,1:20:14.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And there is a refugee going on now. Dialogue: 0,1:20:15.24,1:20:19.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,People coming to monasteries\Nretreat centers, finding refuge Dialogue: 0,1:20:20.66,1:20:25.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because of the war going on\Na war on restlessness, Dialogue: 0,1:20:27.18,1:20:29.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,discrimination, Dialogue: 0,1:20:29.67,1:20:35.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or no break from rushing energy. Dialogue: 0,1:20:37.32,1:20:40.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So there is another war going on. Dialogue: 0,1:20:40.73,1:20:43.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In Thay's time, it was the war in Vietnam. Dialogue: 0,1:20:44.98,1:20:47.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In our time, what is the war? Dialogue: 0,1:20:48.76,1:20:50.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Or what is the peace? Dialogue: 0,1:20:51.97,1:20:54.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is something for us to reflect on Dialogue: 0,1:20:56.42,1:21:00.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as we engage and build\Nthe Order of Interbeing. Dialogue: 0,1:21:01.64,1:21:07.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's very tempting to do the outer work. Dialogue: 0,1:21:10.33,1:21:13.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Vietnamese) Dialogue: 0,1:21:15.25,1:21:18.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Buddhism goes into society. Dialogue: 0,1:21:18.90,1:21:25.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This goes hand in hand with\NBuddhism that goes inside in our heart. Dialogue: 0,1:21:26.21,1:21:29.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Vietnamese) Dialogue: 0,1:21:29.20,1:21:33.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Thay has a saying,\N"The way out is in." Dialogue: 0,1:21:35.91,1:21:41.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's not surprising\Nthat it's a very visited calligraphy Dialogue: 0,1:21:42.75,1:21:45.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of Thay, to remind us, Dialogue: 0,1:21:47.94,1:21:50.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Don't forget to do your homework". Dialogue: 0,1:21:51.36,1:21:55.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because building sangha\Nand doing the great things Dialogue: 0,1:21:56.54,1:22:00.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is very glamorous. Dialogue: 0,1:22:02.05,1:22:06.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,People prays you, there is result. Dialogue: 0,1:22:07.40,1:22:08.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It gets - Dialogue: 0,1:22:09.79,1:22:11.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But if we don't do our homework, Dialogue: 0,1:22:12.22,1:22:14.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when the time comes - Dialogue: 0,1:22:15.39,1:22:18.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Very unstable. Your emotion will come up. Dialogue: 0,1:22:19.32,1:22:21.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You won't let go. Dialogue: 0,1:22:23.11,1:22:26.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That is why the sangha is very important. Dialogue: 0,1:22:26.51,1:22:28.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They are a protection Dialogue: 0,1:22:28.75,1:22:31.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and they help prevent us from going - Dialogue: 0,1:22:31.45,1:22:33.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And holding on too tightly. Dialogue: 0,1:22:34.96,1:22:38.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The vision of Thay,\Nthe Buddha as a sangha, Dialogue: 0,1:22:39.51,1:22:42.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is doable. Dialogue: 0,1:22:42.91,1:22:46.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We don't all have to be the Buddha,\Nwhich is needed is to be part time. Dialogue: 0,1:22:46.99,1:22:49.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And we take turns. Dialogue: 0,1:22:50.11,1:22:52.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I mean, it's OK. Dialogue: 0,1:22:54.29,1:22:58.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So it's our protection\Nfrom becoming dogmatic and so on. Dialogue: 0,1:23:03.04,1:23:10.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,My gratefulness to Thay\Nto emphasizing building sangha Dialogue: 0,1:23:12.30,1:23:17.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as a way to keep us\Nin line with the spirit. Dialogue: 0,1:23:17.56,1:23:20.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That is why in the Charter of Interbeing Dialogue: 0,1:23:20.49,1:23:26.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's very important that when you become\Nan OI member, you grow from the sangha. Dialogue: 0,1:23:27.91,1:23:30.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But now lately there is a trend Dialogue: 0,1:23:30.29,1:23:34.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that the people want to receive\Nthe OI membership or become an OI member Dialogue: 0,1:23:34.63,1:23:37.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like the world, it's very worldly. Dialogue: 0,1:23:37.55,1:23:41.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It is like, "Oh! I want to be an OI!\NHow do I become an OI?" Dialogue: 0,1:23:41.35,1:23:44.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's like very isolated. Dialogue: 0,1:23:45.05,1:23:49.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,An OI member or a person\Nwho grows in the Dharma Dialogue: 0,1:23:49.87,1:23:52.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,grows from the sangha. Dialogue: 0,1:23:52.77,1:23:57.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That is why you cannot become\Nan OI member out of thin air, Dialogue: 0,1:23:57.69,1:23:59.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it comes from the sangha. Dialogue: 0,1:24:00.11,1:24:03.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I mean, I guess you can.\NI don't want to be dogmatic about it. Dialogue: 0,1:24:03.28,1:24:06.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Maybe in Alaska or somewhere\Nthere is no sangha. Dialogue: 0,1:24:06.47,1:24:08.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You can become OI member. Dialogue: 0,1:24:08.96,1:24:12.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But the intention there is\Nthat you come from a culture. Dialogue: 0,1:24:14.16,1:24:16.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You have support,\Nyou have brothers and sisters Dialogue: 0,1:24:16.84,1:24:20.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that know you.\NThey know you very well. Dialogue: 0,1:24:22.100,1:24:25.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They are your protection.\NThey understand you, Dialogue: 0,1:24:25.98,1:24:29.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they know your weaknesses,\Nthey know your strengths. Dialogue: 0,1:24:29.98,1:24:32.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It is very easy to just - Dialogue: 0,1:24:33.17,1:24:39.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Be by yourself and operating on your own. Dialogue: 0,1:24:40.01,1:24:43.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because it's very hard\Nto live with those who know you. Dialogue: 0,1:24:43.86,1:24:45.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Laughter) Dialogue: 0,1:24:48.05,1:24:51.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Sangha is all nice. Plum Village\Nis all nice. Wait until you live here. Dialogue: 0,1:24:51.100,1:24:53.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Laughter) Dialogue: 0,1:24:53.54,1:24:55.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's very easy Dialogue: 0,1:24:57.40,1:25:00.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but difficult, because\Nyour brothers know you. Dialogue: 0,1:25:01.68,1:25:04.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's easier to live as a tourist. Dialogue: 0,1:25:04.62,1:25:07.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Ah! Nice! So beautiful! Dialogue: 0,1:25:08.71,1:25:13.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Everything is so wonderful!\NPlum Village is so nice for one week! Dialogue: 0,1:25:14.36,1:25:16.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Laughter) Dialogue: 0,1:25:16.81,1:25:21.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You stay here and we get to know you\Nand we let you grow some roots, Dialogue: 0,1:25:22.32,1:25:24.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then we start trimming. Dialogue: 0,1:25:24.51,1:25:26.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Laughter) Dialogue: 0,1:25:26.57,1:25:29.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"You don't show up on time. Dialogue: 0,1:25:29.61,1:25:31.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Why is that? Dialogue: 0,1:25:31.92,1:25:33.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Look at your room! Dialogue: 0,1:25:34.01,1:25:36.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,How do you live inside your room?" Dialogue: 0,1:25:36.63,1:25:38.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You look very good, Dialogue: 0,1:25:38.87,1:25:42.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when you see the monks\Nwalking around, all like that. Dialogue: 0,1:25:42.74,1:25:47.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But take a look at your room,\Nhow do you live inside your room? Dialogue: 0,1:25:49.54,1:25:51.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's the in. Dialogue: 0,1:25:51.68,1:25:54.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The way outside needs to be inside. Dialogue: 0,1:25:55.14,1:25:58.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If you cannot do the little work, Dialogue: 0,1:25:58.92,1:26:01.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when the tsunami comes, Dialogue: 0,1:26:02.03,1:26:04.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,no foundation. Dialogue: 0,1:26:04.66,1:26:09.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So in our sangha building,\Nplease do your homework. Dialogue: 0,1:26:11.10,1:26:15.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That wasn't too intense?\NI did shining light Dialogue: 0,1:26:15.94,1:26:19.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,too intense sometimes, so I apologize. Dialogue: 0,1:26:19.73,1:26:24.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But this is me speaking to myself,\Nso I need to be careful. Dialogue: 0,1:26:24.57,1:26:28.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Thank you, sangha\Nfor being here with us. Dialogue: 0,1:26:29.94,1:26:32.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Please enjoy breathing Dialogue: 0,1:26:33.41,1:26:36.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and let go of everything I say. Dialogue: 0,1:26:38.12,1:26:40.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Please, dong hang on to it. OK? Dialogue: 0,1:26:41.80,1:26:44.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Oh, it's quite -\NThrow it away. Dialogue: 0,1:26:45.40,1:26:47.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Laughter) Dialogue: 0,1:26:47.72,1:26:49.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Bell) Dialogue: 0,1:26:50.28,1:26:55.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Bell) Dialogue: 0,1:27:18.04,1:27:24.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Bell) Dialogue: 0,1:27:41.61,1:27:47.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Bell) Dialogue: 0,1:28:07.61,1:28:09.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Bell)