0:00:04.640,0:00:05.704 Audience Cheering 0:00:05.704,0:00:09.379 Jon Stewart: Welcome back! My guest tonight- she's an advocate for girls' access to education worldwide, 0:00:09.379,0:00:14.184 is the youngest person ever to be nominated for a Nobel Peace Prize, her new book is called, 0:00:14.184,0:00:18.311 I Am Malala: The Girl Who Stood Up for Education and Was Shot by the Taliban 0:00:18.311,0:00:20.770 Please welcome to the program Malala Yousafzai. 0:00:20.770,0:00:23.929 Audience Cheering Loudly 0:00:23.929,0:00:29.542 Triumphant Music 0:00:29.542,0:00:33.558 Audience Continues Cheering 0:00:33.558,0:00:35.145 J: Nice to see you. 0:00:35.145,0:00:39.453 Audience Continues Cheering Loudly, One Audience Member Yells 0:00:39.453,0:00:40.657 J: Thank you for being here. 0:00:40.657,0:00:42.640 M: Thank you so much. It's an honor for me. 0:00:42.640,0:00:45.644 J: Uh, it is an honor for us. I know me. 0:00:45.644,0:00:47.876 Audience and Malala Laugh Quietly 0:00:47.876,0:00:53.084 J: This is-- by the way, I- we talked a little bit before the show. 0:00:53.084,0:00:56.811 Nothing feels better than making you laugh, I will say that. 0:00:56.811,0:00:58.364 M: (laughing quietly) Thank you. 0:00:58.364,0:01:00.283 J: I will say that I enjoyed that very much. 0:01:00.283,0:01:06.769 J: I am Malala it, it-it it's honestly humbling to meet you. 0:01:06.769,0:01:13.740 You are 16, where did your love for education come from? 0:01:13.740,0:01:19.717 M: Um, we are human beings, and this is the part of our, of our human nature- 0:01:19.717,0:01:24.477 that we don't learn the importance of anything until it's snatched from our hands. 0:01:24.477,0:01:31.262 And when- in Pakistan, when we were stopped from going to school, at that time, I realized that education is 0:01:31.262,0:01:38.201 very important. And education is the power for women. And that's why the terrorists are afraid of education. 0:01:38.201,0:01:43.174 They do not want women to get education, because then women would become more powerful. 0:01:43.174,0:01:46.444 Audience Cheering/Applauding 0:01:46.444,0:01:51.349 J: That's exactly- that's exactly right. 0:01:51.349,0:01:55.811 When did the- when the Taliban come to Swat Valley? 0:01:55.811,0:02:01.525 Because, before then, you describe it as a- a paradise, of sorts. 0:02:01.525,0:02:05.097 M: A Taliban came in 2004, but at that time they were quite good. 0:02:05.097,0:02:10.167 They did not show their, they're the terrorism. And they did not blast any school at that time. 0:02:10.167,0:02:16.394 But they started the real terrorism in 2007. They have blasted more than 400 schools in Swat. 0:02:16.394,0:02:17.727 They have slaughtered people. 0:02:17.727,0:02:23.750 And in the month of January, 2009, they- they used to slaugher even two, three people every night. 0:02:23.750,0:02:28.253 And they have flogged women. We have seen the barbaric situation of the 21st century, 0:02:28.253,0:02:34.760 and we have seen like the, the-the cruelty and we have seen harsh days in our life, 0:02:34.760,0:02:37.644 and those will be regarded as the darkest days of our life. 0:02:37.644,0:02:41.144 So, it was- it was really hard of us at that time. 0:02:41.144,0:02:50.506 J: You describe in the book, still, no matter what, they- they took the signs off of schools, they, uh- 0:02:50.506,0:02:59.894 they went underground; but they continued in the face of- you spoke out publicly against the Taliban- 0:02:59.894,0:03:04.662 What gave you the courage to continue this? 0:03:04.662,0:03:10.930 M: You know- my father was a great encouragement for me, because he spoke out- 0:03:10.930,0:03:16.667 uh, he spoke out for women's rights, he spoke out for girls' education. And at that time, I said that, 0:03:16.667,0:03:19.003 "Why shall I wait for someone else? 0:03:19.003,0:03:22.895 Why shall I be looking to the government, to the army, that they would help us? 0:03:22.895,0:03:27.061 Why don't I raise my voice? Why don't we speak up for our rights?" 0:03:27.061,0:03:29.714 The girls of Swat, they spoke up for their rights. 0:03:29.714,0:03:34.117 I started writing diary. I spoke on every media channel that I could. 0:03:34.117,0:03:37.146 And I raised my voice on every platform that I could. 0:03:37.146,0:03:40.758 And I said, I need to tell the world what is happening in Swat. 0:03:40.758,0:03:46.811 And I need to tell the world that Swat is suffering from terrorism, and we need to fight against terrorism. 0:03:46.811,0:03:53.837 J: When did you realize the Taliban had made you a target? 0:03:53.837,0:04:02.394 M: Um- when uh, in 2012, um, we were- I was with my father and someone came and she told us that- 0:04:02.394,0:04:07.853 "Have you seen, on uh, google net, if you research your name, and uh, the Taliban have threatened you?" 0:04:07.853,0:04:13.978 And, I just could not believe it, I said, "No, it's not true." And even after the threat, when we saw it, 0:04:13.978,0:04:17.695 I was not worried about myself that much, I was worried about my father. 0:04:17.695,0:04:22.666 Because we thought that the Taliban are not that much cruel that they will kill a child, 0:04:22.666,0:04:24.842 because I was 14 at that time. 0:04:24.842,0:04:31.277 But then later on, I-I used to like started, I, I started thinking about that and I used to think- think that the 0:04:31.277,0:04:37.617 Talib would come and he would just kill me. But then I said, "If he comes, what would you do, Malala?" 0:04:37.617,0:04:43.476 Um- then I would reply myself that, "Malala, just take a shoe and hit him." But then I said- 0:04:43.476,0:04:45.358 Audience Laughing Lightly 0:04:45.358,0:04:51.530 M: But then I said, "If you hit a Talib with your shoe, then there would be no difference you and the Talib. 0:04:51.530,0:04:56.001 You must not treat others, that much with cruelty, and that much harshly. 0:04:56.001,0:05:00.404 You must fight others, but through peace, and through dialogue, and through education." 0:05:00.404,0:05:07.395 Then I said, I'll tell him how important education is, and that, "I even want education for your children as well." 0:05:07.395,0:05:11.813 And I will tell him, "That's what I want to tell you, now do what you want." 0:05:11.813,0:05:24.894 Audience Cheering and Whistling Loudly 0:05:24.894,0:05:34.144 J: Let me ask you- you know, I know your father is- is backstage. And he's very proud of you, but 0:05:34.144,0:05:37.562 would he be mad, if I adopted you? 0:05:37.562,0:05:41.461 Audience and Malala Laugh 0:05:41.461,0:05:44.517 J: Because, you sure are swell. 0:05:44.517,0:05:45.748 Audience Laughing Lightly 0:05:45.748,0:05:47.259 J: Um, could you stick around? 0:05:47.259,0:05:52.523 I want to talk a little bit more about, sort of, Swat Valley, and- and what it was like growing up there, 0:05:52.523,0:05:58.463 and- and how people can get involved through the Malala fund and- and those types of things. 0:05:58.463,0:06:00.932 Do you have a-a little bit of time uh -to stick around? 0:06:00.932,0:06:02.431 M: Yeah, yeah. Sure. 0:06:02.431,0:06:04.136 J: That would be wonderful, thank you so much. 0:06:04.136,0:06:05.977 J: I Am Malala is on the bookshelves now. 0:06:05.977,0:06:07.339 Audience Cheering Loudly 0:06:07.339,0:06:10.674 Donate to the Malala fund, visit: www.malalafund.org 0:06:10.674,0:06:12.223 Malala Yousafzai 0:06:12.223,0:06:13.317 We'll be right back. 0:06:13.317,0:06:16.486 Triumphant Music 0:06:16.486,0:06:18.641 Audience Cheering 0:06:21.641,0:06:22.749 Audience Cheering 0:06:22.749,0:06:24.669 J: Wonderful to listen to you talk. 0:06:24.669,0:06:29.794 Uh, we are back, we are talking to Malala. The book, I am Malala is on shelves right now. 0:06:29.794,0:06:35.228 Your love of school reminds me so much of my children. 0:06:35.228,0:06:41.315 Audience and Malala Laughing 0:06:42.377,0:06:44.614 J: Okay, maybe not. 0:06:44.614,0:06:47.697 Audience Laughing Lightly 0:06:47.697,0:06:53.380 Uh, the people of Swat Valley- when the Talib first came, they thought- 0:06:53.380,0:06:58.403 "They're bringing order. They're bringing services." 0:06:58.403,0:07:04.886 They established a court that was faster than uh- Pakistani courts. 0:07:04.886,0:07:06.403 M: (Quietly) Yeah 0:07:06.403,0:07:09.941 J: And the people responded. 0:07:09.941,0:07:13.324 When did that being to turn? 0:07:13.324,0:07:19.110 M: When the Taliban came they were trying to convince people, and they were just misusing the name of Islam, 0:07:19.110,0:07:23.017 and they were telling people uh, "We will just set up another court for you. 0:07:23.017,0:07:30.392 and we will provide you justice on time." Because usually in courts in Pakistan, people dies and their 0:07:30.392,0:07:36.994 case is not yet resolved in the- in the, in the courts. So that's what is happening in the courts of Pakistan. 0:07:36.994,0:07:42.130 So people just said like, "If the Taliban are doing it, why don't we support them?" 0:07:42.130,0:07:47.380 But- then they were that much cruel when their- they started slaughtering people. 0:07:47.380,0:07:51.816 And they even blasted a, uh-a generator of electricity. 0:07:51.816,0:07:54.541 And it was the month of Ramadan, in which we keep fast, 0:07:54.541,0:07:58.752 in which we don't eat on the day, in which we don't drink for the whole day. 0:07:58.752,0:08:05.332 They blasted the electricity generators which was providing electricity to the whole city of Mingora. 0:08:05.332,0:08:10.298 And we could not have water because it is- electricity is related to water supply as well. 0:08:10.298,0:08:16.248 And people were sitting in the dark, people could not buy electricity generators, 0:08:16.248,0:08:22.842 people were just sitting in the light of candles, and people were just dying of thirst at that time. 0:08:22.842,0:08:28.131 But my father is a great father, because he bought generator for the school to- to create electricity, 0:08:28.131,0:08:34.081 and to uh, um, and to provide water to the- the uh, street and to that community. 0:08:34.081,0:08:38.989 But still, many people were- were suffering from that hard situation. 0:08:38.989,0:08:42.463 And other that, our freedom was taken from us. 0:08:42.463,0:08:43.533 J: Yes. 0:08:43.533,0:08:48.048 M: The women's freedom- we could not go to market. We were not allowed to go to school. 0:08:48.048,0:08:54.073 We were just kept imprisoned. We were just limited to the four walls of our house. 0:08:54.073,0:08:58.380 Women's ri- women's rights were denied at that time. And that's why I spoke. 0:08:58.380,0:09:03.787 Because I believe in equality. And I believe there is no difference between a man and a woman. 0:09:03.787,0:09:06.753 I even believe that a woman is more powerful than men. 0:09:06.753,0:09:08.518 J: What-wait, whoa, wait, what? 0:09:08.518,0:09:10.315 Audience Cheering/Whistling 0:09:10.315,0:09:12.042 J: What? I-wait! 0:09:12.042,0:09:15.381 Audience Continues Cheering & Malala Laughs 0:09:15.381,0:09:17.129 J: You know- 0:09:17.129,0:09:18.883 Audience Continues Applauding 0:09:18.883,0:09:21.495 J: Malala, this was going so well- 0:09:21.495,0:09:23.910 Audience & Malala Laugh 0:09:23.910,0:09:29.449 J: You were doing so beautifully...and then suddenly, BAM! 0:09:29.449,0:09:31.617 Audience & Malala Laugh 0:09:31.617,0:09:39.018 J: It's-- this is the part that they, they uh- began to say, "You cannot dance." 0:09:39.018,0:09:40.190 M: (somberly) Yeah. 0:09:40.019,0:09:44.221 You cannot- uh- the women cannot do these things. 0:09:44.221,0:09:54.833 Uh-You, you say that, that many people believe uh- this is a- a wrong interpretation of Islam, Uh-of, of the Qur'an. 0:09:54.833,0:10:03.319 Do you- Why have the Taliban and these more extreme groups been able to be successful? 0:10:03.319,0:10:07.730 Is it the fear that they bring uh- to these towns? 0:10:07.730,0:10:13.634 Do they i-is that why the people have had a hard time throwing it off? 0:10:13.634,0:10:19.759 M: The first thing is that they were really cruel, they had "clashin coves," they had guns in their hand. 0:10:19.759,0:10:23.895 And If I had a gun in my hand and I tell you something, "Do this." You have to do that! 0:10:23.895,0:10:26.168 Because it's, it's for your life. 0:10:26.168,0:10:30.614 So there was fear- all around. That's why our people could not say anything. 0:10:30.614,0:10:34.270 And then the second thing was that they were misusing the name of Islam. 0:10:34.270,0:10:37.447 They were telling people that, "We are doing this for Islam. We are doing this for Allah. 0:10:37.447,0:10:40.075 We are doing this for prophet. Peace be upon Him." 0:10:40.075,0:10:45.614 So- as well as- they were using religion for their own personal benefit. So that's also- they- the reason. 0:10:45.614,0:10:51.923 But then, later on, people tried to realize this. And the girls, are very brave. 0:10:51.923,0:10:55.839 And girls in our school-like we were, at that time we were just 11 or 12 years old. 0:10:55.839,0:11:01.114 But we spoke up for our rights to every media channel, to every newspaper that we could. 0:11:01.114,0:11:06.168 And we did not know at that time that our small interview would have an impact or not, but it had, 0:11:06.168,0:11:10.506 because we were raising up our voice, and we were speaking up for our rights. 0:11:10.506,0:11:14.037 And we were speaking for peace in Swat, we wanted to live a normal life. 0:11:14.037,0:11:21.114 Because Swat is like a paradise on earth. I believe in two paradises. One-one I'll get after death, 0:11:21.114,0:11:26.364 but the other one, that is on earth, for me that is Swat, because Swat is really beautiful. 0:11:26.364,0:11:29.782 And you would be, you would be astonished when you see the lush green hills, 0:11:29.782,0:11:34.935 and when you see the tall mountain. And the- and the rivers that we have, the crystal clear water, 0:11:34.935,0:11:39.503 and you can find trout. So it's really beautiful, you would love Swat! 0:11:39.503,0:11:41.697 J: Malala, ple- I'm, I'm from New Jersey. 0:11:41.697,0:11:44.871 Malala Laughs, Audience Laughs/Cheers 0:11:44.871,0:11:47.698 J: So- I know a little something about paradise. 0:11:47.698,0:11:50.246 Audience Laughs/One Person Cheers 0:11:50.246,0:11:52.388 J: The beaches-- it does, it-it sounds magnificent. 0:11:52.388,0:12:00.158 And it's, it is heartbreaking, because you see uh, uh- what these children want and what this people want is 0:12:00.158,0:12:06.454 to just live in peace, without having this imposed on them. 0:12:06.454,0:12:08.003 M: (Somberly) Yeah. 0:12:08.003,0:12:12.801 J: And I think, we don't know what to do to help. 0:12:12.801,0:12:20.412 You know, there are passages in the book about the United States. Uh- and uh- we come out great. 0:12:20.412,0:12:23.090 One Audience Member Yells, "Yeah!" Malala Laughs 0:12:23.090,0:12:29.182 J: But there, there is, you know, there are attacks in Swat and in those areas- drones. 0:12:29.182,0:12:36.447 And, and uh, the talk about a man, a CIA uh, agent who shot two men in Lahore. 0:12:36.447,0:12:37.781 Malala: (somberly) Yeah. 0:12:37.781,0:12:38.988 J: Uh, Raymond uh- 0:12:38.988,0:12:40.178 M: (quietly) Davis. 0:12:40.178,0:12:41.783 J: Davis. 0:12:41.783,0:12:48.238 And this is, is- I think we have a common want, and desire. 0:12:48.238,0:12:57.512 But perhaps are not accomplishing it in-in the manner that, that shows the people how we- how we feel. 0:12:57.512,0:13:05.396 But in some ways, we don't know what else to do. What, what- what is- what is your thought on that? 0:13:05.396,0:13:10.229 M: Um- I think that the people of America, the United States, 0:13:10.229,0:13:17.182 uh- they truly support uh- peace, and they say that, "We must not fight against war, through war. " 0:13:17.182,0:13:22.014 They believe that dialogue is the best way. And we must try to find a solution for it! 0:13:22.014,0:13:26.931 And in my opinion, the solution that would work, to fight all these wars, 0:13:26.931,0:13:31.097 and all these problems that people are facing, is only education. 0:13:31.097,0:13:37.681 Because you can- you can stop war for a second, but you don't know- it will start again or not. 0:13:37.681,0:13:41.833 We have seen first world war, we have seen second world war, and I think third world war is coming. 0:13:41.833,0:13:49.764 But I believe that we must stop it now. I don't want to see a third world war in- in this world again. 0:13:49.764,0:13:54.505 And the best way to fight against this war is education because- as we can see, 0:13:54.505,0:13:59.545 the children are suffering from terrorism, they are suffering from child labor and child trafficking. 0:13:59.545,0:14:02.682 They're also suffering from the culture norms and traditions. 0:14:02.682,0:14:07.758 These are- there is not only one issue that we are facing through, there are many others as well. 0:14:07.758,0:14:11.847 So I think, education is the best way. People will be thinking, 0:14:11.847,0:14:16.680 "Does going to school, learning about chemistry and physics and maths, and that it?" 0:14:16.680,0:14:21.068 Going to school is not only learning about learning different subjects. It teaches you communication, 0:14:21.068,0:14:27.002 it teaches you how to live a life, it teaches you about history, it teaches you about how science is working. 0:14:27.002,0:14:32.710 And other than that, you learn about equality. Because students are provided the same benches, 0:14:32.710,0:14:39.150 they sit equally. They- it shows us equality. It teaches students, how to-how to live with others together, 0:14:39.150,0:14:43.914 how to accept each other's language, how to accept each other's traditions, and each other's religion. 0:14:43.914,0:14:50.795 It also teaches us justice, it also teaches us respect. It- it teaches us how to live together. 0:14:50.795,0:14:55.952 So that's why I support the- I support the idea of sending children to school, 0:14:55.952,0:14:58.455 because it is the best way to fight terrorism. 0:14:58.455,0:15:01.677 And I want people to support us in this cause, 0:15:01.677,0:15:06.979 and through Malala foundation we want to work for education of girls in dev- uh, in the developing countries, 0:15:06.979,0:15:10.413 especially in Syria now. They are suffering, they are homeless now. 0:15:10.413,0:15:15.728 We want to help children in Afghanistan, because they have been suffering from terrorism for decades. 0:15:15.728,0:15:19.897 We want to help the children of India as well, because they are victims of child labor. 0:15:19.897,0:15:27.080 So I think issues and problems are enormous, but solution is one, and that is simple- that is education. 0:15:27.080,0:15:29.331 Audience Applauding 0:15:29.331,0:15:35.079 J: I, uh...I, I, I am humbled, humbled to speak with you. 0:15:35.079,0:15:39.050 Uh, I will say this. I don't know where you come from. 0:15:39.050,0:15:40.614 Malala laughs 0:15:40.614,0:15:43.481 J: But I am very glad you're here. Thank you for being here today. 0:15:43.481,0:15:45.999 Audience Applauding/Cheering Loudly 0:15:45.999,0:15:51.290 J: Wonderful. Please, get the book. 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