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Dialogue: 0,0:00:15.83,0:00:20.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(hammering)
Dialogue: 0,0:00:21.100,0:00:23.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,ABRAHAM CRUZVILLEGAS: I went to the streets\Nin Paris
Dialogue: 0,0:00:23.89,0:00:26.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,looking for materials from demolitions.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:29.28,0:00:34.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was very interested in Antonin Artaud,\Nthe French poet, since I was a teenager.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:37.48,0:00:40.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(materials clattering)
Dialogue: 0,0:00:40.45,0:00:45.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for this project in Paris, I decided to approach\Nhim again.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:45.21,0:00:50.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I like that he constantly looks\Nfor a transformation of language.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:52.12,0:00:59.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is Artaud's map of Paris,\Nand I made some lines for describing possible
Dialogue: 0,0:00:59.64,0:01:00.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,paths
Dialogue: 0,0:01:00.64,0:01:05.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,between points, points that represent the\Nmind of Artaud.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:13.99,0:01:16.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,For this exhibition, I went to the streets\Nof Paris,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:16.87,0:01:20.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then I used Artaud's map of Paris
Dialogue: 0,0:01:20.20,0:01:22.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to make sculptures in the spots where he used\Nto go
Dialogue: 0,0:01:22.44,0:01:24.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to visit friends or to have a drink.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:25.82,0:01:29.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I made sculptures in the place\Nwith the materials from the place,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:29.44,0:01:32.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I left the sculpture in the place.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:32.78,0:01:38.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There should be no image of the work I made,\Nand there is only an image of the place where
Dialogue: 0,0:01:38.08,0:01:39.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I made it.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:40.28,0:01:46.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was a big experiment for me, in a way,\Ntrying to destroy my own way of making works.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:46.52,0:01:49.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(hammering)
Dialogue: 0,0:01:54.81,0:02:01.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In this project, I tried to make the references\Nand the links to Artaud but not in a didactic way.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:02.45,0:02:07.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This big piece that I made with wood,\NI would call it a necklace, but it's not,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:07.35,0:02:08.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of course.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:09.90,0:02:15.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,At the beginning, I think it will look\Nlike somebody forgot to finish the work,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:16.70,0:02:21.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,until maybe you discover that there is something\Nthat joins everything together.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:24.00,0:02:26.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There is another work that I did, a video.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:26.58,0:02:31.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I made it in 2008 here is Paris,\Nand that was the moment when we left Paris.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:31.75,0:02:34.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We lived here three years and a half.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:34.44,0:02:35.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's myself running.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:36.21,0:02:39.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Living here but not really being from here\Nand then escaping from here
Dialogue: 0,0:02:39.97,0:02:42.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but, in fact, running from myself.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:46.60,0:02:54.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The very origin of autoconstrucción as a concept\Nis related to people making their houses as
Dialogue: 0,0:02:54.03,0:02:55.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they can.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:55.03,0:03:00.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's not a method or technique or style,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:00.52,0:03:04.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but it's more like about the social circumstance \Nand the political circumstance.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:04.71,0:03:09.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,People have no money to buy an apartment or\Na house at once.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:10.85,0:03:18.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,My father came to this land in the mid-'60s\Nafter an invitation of one of his relatives.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:18.58,0:03:21.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,One of his cousins told him, "There is this\Nland there.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:21.93,0:03:25.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Nobody's using it because it's so harsh."
Dialogue: 0,0:03:25.33,0:03:31.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And his cousin sold him a piece of land,\Nand even when it was not for sale.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:31.86,0:03:36.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There was nothing but rocks,\Nso he started something out of nothing.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:38.27,0:03:40.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,With the community, they started helping each\Nother
Dialogue: 0,0:03:40.73,0:03:42.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to construct their houses, and, of course,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:42.52,0:03:46.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they had no idea of architecture or construction\Neven.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:46.55,0:03:49.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They were just improvising with the materials\Nthey found.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:50.67,0:03:52.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This was a big patio.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:52.45,0:03:53.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There was a kitchen there.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:53.63,0:03:56.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There was the bedrooms over there, and then\Nthe entrance.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:56.95,0:03:59.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There was a fence, a wooden fence.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:59.86,0:04:01.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There was no proper street.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:01.28,0:04:05.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was only loosened earth or rocks.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:15.78,0:04:16.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The exhibition at the Walker
Dialogue: 0,0:04:16.83,0:04:18.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is not conceived as a retrospective.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:18.81,0:04:23.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's more like a selection of works\Nthat are related to this idea of autoconstrucción.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:24.62,0:04:28.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They have in common, I think, the will of\Nlearning,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:28.24,0:04:30.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I think it's been always there in my work,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:31.01,0:04:33.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this necessity of understanding.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:40.73,0:04:44.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Understanding or dealing with the concept\Nautoconstrucción,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:44.51,0:04:47.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's also hard in Spanish, I would say.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:54.27,0:05:00.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is a work I call autoconstrucción:\Nthe resource room in which there is references,
Dialogue: 0,0:05:00.26,0:05:05.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like the history of Mexico, immigration to\Nthe city.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:06.56,0:05:08.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's a sculpture that is growing.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:08.76,0:05:10.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's alive when people use it.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:14.44,0:05:19.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There's lots of pictures of my neighborhood\Nfrom family archives.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:19.99,0:05:22.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There is also some silk screens that I made.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:22.47,0:05:26.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They are copies of original pamphlets and\Nfliers and posters
Dialogue: 0,0:05:26.19,0:05:31.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from political movements in Latin America\Nfrom 1968 to now.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:32.88,0:05:36.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I like that it's more like a didactic device.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:37.08,0:05:42.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,People can understand more about the context\Nof my autoconstrucción concept,
Dialogue: 0,0:05:43.27,0:05:48.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,things that are not necessarily related to\Nautoconstrucción,
Dialogue: 0,0:05:48.08,0:05:51.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but in my mind, they were important for me
Dialogue: 0,0:05:51.72,0:05:55.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in my education and my configuration\Nof the concept of autoconstrucción.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:04.20,0:06:05.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(dog barking)
Dialogue: 0,0:06:07.12,0:06:08.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(dog barking)
Dialogue: 0,0:06:08.94,0:06:14.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(pair conversing in foreign language)
Dialogue: 0,0:06:14.82,0:06:17.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,My mother is the daughter of indigenous people.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:17.31,0:06:21.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They lived in a very poor environment\Nnear Tacubaya in Mexico city,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:21.19,0:06:25.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so it was not new for her facing problems,\Nbut it was worse.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:26.47,0:06:28.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was really a process
Dialogue: 0,0:06:28.32,0:06:33.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of constructing our history
Dialogue: 0,0:06:33.14,0:06:34.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,together with others.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:34.22,0:06:35.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It wasn't just about us.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:35.90,0:06:38.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Here I earned what it is to be fraternal and to act in solidarity
Dialogue: 0,0:06:38.64,0:06:41.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with these people, with this neighborhood.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:42.06,0:06:45.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,She had to transform herself, voluntarily\Nor not.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:46.63,0:06:51.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then she became an activist,\Nand then she became a stronger woman
Dialogue: 0,0:06:51.58,0:06:57.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and a great example for all of us,\Nnot only my family, but the neighbors as well.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:57.39,0:07:00.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,With other women, they became organizers of\Nthe people,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:00.43,0:07:05.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,demanding the services,\Nlike asking for water or sewage or electricity,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:05.46,0:07:09.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and as a child, I witnessed this transformation.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:09.33,0:07:12.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So the house, for me, is important because\Nof that.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:12.44,0:07:15.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's not only the formal appearance
Dialogue: 0,0:07:15.24,0:07:19.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or the shapes it took in time according to\Nspecific needs
Dialogue: 0,0:07:19.31,0:07:24.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but also according to the transformation of\Nan ideology.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:26.62,0:07:30.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This work is composed by a couple of videos.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:30.44,0:07:36.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I made interviews with my parents separately\Nso they could give their own tale
Dialogue: 0,0:07:36.08,0:07:38.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about the construction of the house.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:38.40,0:07:42.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They had contradictory perceptions of reality.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:43.22,0:07:48.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When I was a child, that was my perception\Nof being in between these two noisy things.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:49.55,0:07:55.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(overlapping speech in foreign language)
Dialogue: 0,0:07:55.28,0:07:57.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,My father, he's dead now.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:57.72,0:08:02.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think his perception of reality\Nwas pragmatic in many ways, looking at the
Dialogue: 0,0:08:02.39,0:08:03.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,landscape
Dialogue: 0,0:08:03.39,0:08:07.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and describing the plants and the rocks as\Nsomething nice,
Dialogue: 0,0:08:07.82,0:08:10.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I think I identify myself with him.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:10.95,0:08:14.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I look at things very much like him.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:14.62,0:08:18.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And my mother is more about the struggle,\Nthe fight,
Dialogue: 0,0:08:18.83,0:08:21.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the corruption of the government, poverty.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:21.74,0:08:26.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(overlapping speech in foreign language)
Dialogue: 0,0:08:26.43,0:08:29.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I grew up with this kind of contradictory\Nversion
Dialogue: 0,0:08:29.34,0:08:32.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of reality, and I like that very much,
Dialogue: 0,0:08:32.24,0:08:38.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I accept the contradiction as myself,\Nas part of my identity, and I've been thinking
Dialogue: 0,0:08:38.08,0:08:39.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,more and more
Dialogue: 0,0:08:39.08,0:08:46.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about this as an element of my work as well,\Nthat I'm composed with contradictory and unstable
Dialogue: 0,0:08:46.33,0:08:47.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,elements.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:48.64,0:08:56.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This space, we call it El Taller,\Nbecause my father used to paint here
Dialogue: 0,0:08:56.91,0:09:05.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and to read and to listen to music,\Nand even when he stopped making paintings
Dialogue: 0,0:09:05.52,0:09:06.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and sculptures,
Dialogue: 0,0:09:06.52,0:09:08.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we kept calling it El Taller.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:08.57,0:09:11.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So in a way, it was the heart of the house.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:11.83,0:09:14.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He lived with the Franciscan people.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:14.71,0:09:18.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He went there, not an orphan,\Nbut as the son of a single mother.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:18.100,0:09:22.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then my grandmother took him as a child\Nthere.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:22.74,0:09:28.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He took the habits of the monk,\Nand he learned to play many instruments and
Dialogue: 0,0:09:28.12,0:09:29.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to paint,
Dialogue: 0,0:09:29.14,0:09:32.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and all the things he knew,\Nhe learned it with the Franciscan people.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:32.61,0:09:36.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I grew up as a Catholic, but I'm not anymore.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:36.55,0:09:45.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But I understand, I think I understood\Nthis essence of Christianism in love.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:46.69,0:09:53.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He loved religion like he loved God\Nand the presence of God in everything.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:53.87,0:09:58.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I think that's why I also took\Nthis sort of animism in my work.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:58.34,0:10:02.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I associate it with other ways of thinking,\Nlike Taoism.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:03.09,0:10:09.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think he had some reasons to leave the order,\Nbut he loved, he loves, I mean I think, wherever
Dialogue: 0,0:10:09.93,0:10:10.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he is,
Dialogue: 0,0:10:10.94,0:10:15.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he loves Francisco and the life he had.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:16.41,0:10:20.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,My mother keeps some of the objects my father\Ndid.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:20.27,0:10:22.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He was more like a commercial painter.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:22.12,0:10:26.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He made like hundreds of these paintings,\Nvery similar, if not the same.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:26.60,0:10:32.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He wasn't really trying to follow any trend\Nor style or anything but more like to produce
Dialogue: 0,0:10:32.61,0:10:33.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,objects
Dialogue: 0,0:10:33.61,0:10:35.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to sell to get an income.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:35.88,0:10:40.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,On that wall there is a portrait of my mother\Nin the '60s.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:40.10,0:10:44.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think they have the same shape,\Nthe mushrooms and the hairdo.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:44.09,0:10:45.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(chuckles)
Dialogue: 0,0:10:51.10,0:10:55.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Works I did in the early '90s,\Nlike using my father's paintings,
Dialogue: 0,0:10:55.65,0:10:59.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and so one of these works is included in the\Nshow.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:00.42,0:11:02.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's called "Objeto Util Pero Bonito".
Dialogue: 0,0:11:02.89,0:11:06.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It uses one of the handrails in a painting\Nby my father.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:07.52,0:11:11.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That work, for me, is important\Nin terms of understanding my own identity
Dialogue: 0,0:11:11.80,0:11:13.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and my context,
Dialogue: 0,0:11:13.41,0:11:18.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and in a way, I was trying to put\Nevery object possible in my work.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:19.11,0:11:22.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was like saying everything in the world\Nis alive,
Dialogue: 0,0:11:22.74,0:11:25.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and everything can go together, like being\Ntogether,
Dialogue: 0,0:11:25.83,0:11:28.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and as a metaphor for community as well.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:33.76,0:11:40.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Here, the stairs, you can see they change\Nbecause it's for the wheelchair here.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:40.11,0:11:43.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then the shape, I like it very much.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:43.20,0:11:45.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think of it as a sculpture as well.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:45.83,0:11:48.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But this is one of my favorite sculptures\Nof the house,
Dialogue: 0,0:11:48.77,0:11:54.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which is this kind of groove\Nmade by the wheel of the wheelchair.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:54.00,0:11:59.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So it was carved in time,\Nfor many, many years by my father's use.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:59.86,0:12:03.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then, because of this, I arrived to the\Nconsciousness
Dialogue: 0,0:12:03.40,0:12:06.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or the awareness of the autoconstrucción
Dialogue: 0,0:12:06.59,0:12:12.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as an engine for my work,\Nas something that was in my soul and in my
Dialogue: 0,0:12:12.95,0:12:13.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,mind,
Dialogue: 0,0:12:13.95,0:12:15.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but I didn't know.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:15.84,0:12:19.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then suddenly it's not that one night\NI understood,
Dialogue: 0,0:12:19.03,0:12:22.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but slowly I understood that there was something,
Dialogue: 0,0:12:22.65,0:12:27.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a strong influence of my context in the art\NI was making.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:27.25,0:12:30.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(materials clattering)
Dialogue: 0,0:12:51.24,0:12:56.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Sometimes I just play with the materials,\Nfinding combinations.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:56.23,0:12:59.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(hammering)
Dialogue: 0,0:13:01.72,0:13:04.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Just taking whatever is at hand, not really\Nchoosing,
Dialogue: 0,0:13:04.40,0:13:08.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but thinking that any element can be used.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:11.25,0:13:14.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I think this is important, because it's\Nnot about
Dialogue: 0,0:13:14.38,0:13:16.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,choosing because it looks better or not.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:22.04,0:13:25.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That it can work in this community of things.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:28.54,0:13:30.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Abraham coughs)
Dialogue: 0,0:13:30.00,0:13:31.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Things, they speak.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:31.91,0:13:33.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(materials clattering)
Dialogue: 0,0:13:33.61,0:13:36.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I try to find the balance among them.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:44.82,0:13:47.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In a way, I'm making a self-portrait.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:00.92,0:14:01.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Constantly, I
Dialogue: 0,0:14:01.83,0:14:04.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,make sculptures that are about to collapse.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:04.17,0:14:07.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They are not technically okay.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:07.49,0:14:10.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,For instance, a collector,\Nif they want to collect something like that
Dialogue: 0,0:14:10.47,0:14:13.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or keep them in their collection, they keep\Na problem.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:13.50,0:14:16.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's something that you have to protect from\Nitself.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:17.53,0:14:21.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This one, I cannot leave it here,\Nbecause it's across the door, and I have to
Dialogue: 0,0:14:21.97,0:14:23.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,close the door,
Dialogue: 0,0:14:23.09,0:14:27.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it's because there is a large element\Nthat cannot fit in the studio.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:27.28,0:14:32.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I would love to leave it like that\Nand show it like this in a museum, if possible,
Dialogue: 0,0:14:32.56,0:14:37.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,stopping the door,\Nlike when you use a shoe to stop the door,
Dialogue: 0,0:14:37.05,0:14:40.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,using something like a tool, you know?
Dialogue: 0,0:14:41.72,0:14:44.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Materials have different origins.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:44.13,0:14:46.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is dry meat.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:46.26,0:14:47.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is a piece of plant pot.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:47.72,0:14:50.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is one leg from a grill.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:50.66,0:14:57.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This wood from beams from the house\Nthat I renovated recently,
Dialogue: 0,0:14:57.25,0:15:03.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so materials I use from the demolition,\Nso they have a proper history of their own,
Dialogue: 0,0:15:03.58,0:15:05.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a long experience.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:05.16,0:15:14.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This wood, it's like from late 19th century,\Nso it has lots of things to say.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:14.88,0:15:17.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But there are things that are just new, like\Nthese,
Dialogue: 0,0:15:17.63,0:15:21.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that are maybe tasteless or they mean nothing,
Dialogue: 0,0:15:21.66,0:15:25.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but at the end, everything works very well\Ntogether,
Dialogue: 0,0:15:25.61,0:15:28.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I like to use like these bottle caps
Dialogue: 0,0:15:28.19,0:15:31.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from beer that I drink with friends.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:31.28,0:15:35.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is from my new pants\Nthat I bought in New York last time,
Dialogue: 0,0:15:35.06,0:15:38.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but they are too long because I'm not American\Nsize,
Dialogue: 0,0:15:38.64,0:15:41.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so it's always like trying to find
Dialogue: 0,0:15:41.50,0:15:45.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,extra large clothes for my belly,
Dialogue: 0,0:15:45.14,0:15:48.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but I have to cut a lot of the legs, so this\Nis...
Dialogue: 0,0:15:49.42,0:15:51.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I don't know.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:51.50,0:15:57.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There's no real particular thing to say about\Nanything,
Dialogue: 0,0:15:57.09,0:15:59.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but the whole thing speaks together,
Dialogue: 0,0:15:59.81,0:16:02.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and that's nicer, I think.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:04.97,0:16:06.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,No, not finished.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:06.19,0:16:07.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(chuckles)
Dialogue: 0,0:16:16.75,0:16:21.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(ambient electronic music)
Dialogue: 0,0:16:21.77,0:16:24.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,To learn more about "Art in the Twenty-First Century"
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Dialogue: 0,0:16:40.67,0:16:45.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(ambient electronic music)