WEBVTT 00:00:05.018 --> 00:00:10.055 [Music] 00:00:10.055 --> 00:00:14.616 "10-Punkte-Programm der Diktatur der Kunst" 00:00:14.616 --> 00:00:18.578 The goal is clear: The goal is the dictatorship of art. 00:00:18.578 --> 00:00:21.324 The goal is that art rules the world. 00:00:21.324 --> 00:00:26.183 [howling] 00:00:26.183 --> 00:00:31.042 "Gehorcht einfach der Kunst! Gehorcht! Gehorcht!" 00:00:31.042 --> 00:00:32.441 Art is the strongest. 00:00:32.441 --> 00:00:36.840 Art is number 1, art is the chief, art is the "Bundeskantzler", art is the "Führer", 00:00:36.840 --> 00:00:43.284 art is the king, art is the religion, art is that, art is that, art, art, art, always! 00:00:43.284 --> 00:00:48.009 And I hate these art students nowadays, who only want so small things, 00:00:48.009 --> 00:00:50.346 who want a comfortable life, 00:00:50.346 --> 00:00:54.837 and I mean, I'm 41 now, ja?, and I behave like a 12 year old 00:00:54.837 --> 00:01:03.255 but these people, who are 25, 35 now, they behave like they were never born! 00:01:04.609 --> 00:01:10.329 "Happa, happa, happa - Hoah, hoah, hoah" 00:01:10.329 --> 00:01:14.575 If everywhere is art, then it would disappear 00:01:14.575 --> 00:01:19.037 Ja, and then everything would calm down, and we would have a new start, 00:01:19.037 --> 00:01:23.929 "ein Neustart", we would have a new zero-point into our existence 00:01:23.929 --> 00:01:25.714 and something new would come up. 00:01:25.714 --> 00:01:29.765 It means, we need something totally new to happen. 00:01:29.765 --> 00:01:36.866 And that art rules the world means not that everybody is painting or everybody is doing literature. 00:01:36.866 --> 00:01:41.988 It means that everybody is doing what he is doing with total passion 00:01:41.988 --> 00:01:45.201 and not being instrumentalized, not being used, 00:01:45.201 --> 00:01:48.674 not being into a "Sekte" or something, 00:01:48.674 --> 00:01:53.224 that everything has a new wind in it, 00:01:53.224 --> 00:01:59.370 that we just say: "Stop it now. Stop with this shit that is happening on this world! 00:01:59.370 --> 00:02:07.688 Stop! Stop! Stop! Stop, politicians, resign all, all, please, all!" 00:02:07.688 --> 00:02:17.105 Now, today one politician resigned in this country. Ja? Oh, oh, please all others do it, too! 00:02:17.105 --> 00:02:21.245 Chancelor Merkel, please, resign, it's time! Ja? 00:02:21.245 --> 00:02:25.346 Please, all kings and queens, sorry to say, resign! 00:02:25.346 --> 00:02:27.326 Play it! You can play king. 00:02:27.326 --> 00:02:30.077 But it doesn't mean anything any more. 00:02:30.077 --> 00:02:43.040 [laughter, howling] 00:02:43.040 --> 00:02:46.617 [squeaking] 00:02:46.617 --> 00:02:48.527 "Happa, happa machen" 00:02:48.542 --> 00:02:54.043 We need "eine versachlichte Führung", we need a new start for the whole world. 00:02:54.043 --> 00:02:58.223 Now it's time. Also the collapse that is happening all over. 00:02:58.223 --> 00:03:00.371 I am not an idiot, I see this. 00:03:00.371 --> 00:03:03.926 And I always think: "Wow, now something happens!" 00:03:03.926 --> 00:03:08.687 But we should never think that we need revolutionary people. 00:03:08.687 --> 00:03:11.226 We don't need soldiers on the street. 00:03:11.226 --> 00:03:14.257 The soldiers come from the stage. 00:03:14.257 --> 00:03:16.937 It's a totally other direction. 00:03:16.937 --> 00:03:24.223 And Adolf Hitler is a crucial point, because there it was totally clear for everybody in this world: 00:03:24.223 --> 00:03:27.535 Humans should never have ideological power! 00:03:27.535 --> 00:03:30.442 There the game was ending in fact. 00:03:30.442 --> 00:03:32.730 But no, they start it again! 00:03:32.730 --> 00:03:39.628 We produce dictators like, uh, like bonbons. 00:03:39.628 --> 00:03:41.091 And why? 00:03:41.091 --> 00:03:43.618 Why are ther so many small Hitlers in the world? 00:03:43.618 --> 00:03:45.057 Why? 00:03:45.057 --> 00:03:50.720 Wh.. After this guy, now for me now every politician is a small Hitler, sorry. 00:03:50.720 --> 00:03:51.782 And I don't want this. 00:03:51.782 --> 00:03:55.264 I'm not interested in this nostalgic idea. 00:03:55.264 --> 00:04:02.133 Ja, 1945 Hitler was just taken apart into small "Oblates", small peaces, 00:04:02.133 --> 00:04:04.408 and everybody [chop, chop]. 00:04:04.408 --> 00:04:08.209 "Jeder ist ein eigener Führer, jeder ist sein eigener Gott, jeder ist sein eigener Chef." 00:04:08.209 --> 00:04:13.135 Everybody is his own leader, everybody is his own chief, everybody is his own god. 00:04:13.135 --> 00:04:14.567 This is not the concept. 00:04:14.567 --> 00:04:18.570 "Selbstverwirklichung", self-fulfillment, is not ok. 00:04:18.570 --> 00:04:29.507 [purr] 00:04:29.507 --> 00:04:35.246 If you would take this picture and put it into a machine, 00:04:35.246 --> 00:04:38.864 there would be no feeling of we inside. 00:04:38.864 --> 00:04:46.005 We should ask: This golden colour, why it's done like this and what it means? 00:04:46.005 --> 00:04:48.289 But maybe we get an answer, maybe not. 00:04:48.289 --> 00:04:52.873 But then we come closer to this or stay in the same distance. 00:04:52.873 --> 00:04:55.911 Art is no spiritual. 00:04:55.911 --> 00:04:58.429 We don't need spiritual human leaders. 00:04:58.429 --> 00:05:06.833 Uh, this is a very concrete totally pragmatic thing: paint on canvas. 00:05:06.833 --> 00:05:11.558 This canvas would have filled itself, even without me. 00:05:11.882 --> 00:05:14.006 Ja? It doesn't matter that I did it. 00:05:14.006 --> 00:05:15.139 It's not important. 00:05:15.139 --> 00:05:19.410 That I did it, is ok. But it is not important to evaluate art. 00:05:19.410 --> 00:05:23.205 Ja? This painting is a game on its own. 00:05:23.205 --> 00:05:29.234 We can write, I wrote "Jonathan Meese 2011", it's not important. 00:05:29.234 --> 00:05:32.518 Ja? I'm just a servant. 00:05:35.411 --> 00:05:44.702 "Lieber Wolf, du musst in der Kunst nur eins machen!" 00:05:44.702 --> 00:05:50.017 And all these things, Saint Juste, Robespierre, Marat, Number 5, Adolf Hitler, 00:05:50.017 --> 00:05:52.602 everything is a toy of art. 00:05:52.602 --> 00:05:54.619 That's why you can use it. 00:05:54.619 --> 00:05:59.777 This is all a game, it has to be a game. Sorry. 00:05:59.777 --> 00:06:04.410 To play is the most radical thing you can do in this world. 00:06:04.410 --> 00:06:07.792 To really kill somebody is not radical. 00:06:07.792 --> 00:06:14.183 Ja, to really hurt somebody, that is so shamefully easy and nothing special 00:06:14.183 --> 00:06:21.166 and it has nothng to do with reality, er, with radicalism. That is reality fanatism. 00:06:21.166 --> 00:06:29.221 And to really play it through: This is what I have to do till I die. 00:06:29.221 --> 00:06:34.700 "Lieber Wolf, du musst nur eins machen in der Kunst!" 00:06:34.700 --> 00:06:36.969 "Gehorche einfach!" 00:06:36.969 --> 00:06:40.597 "Lieber Wolf!" 00:06:40.597 --> 00:06:46.462 The people always on the door outside, they always come in and say to me: Don't play anymore! 00:06:46.462 --> 00:06:50.358 You're not allowed to play. This is too far. You go too far. 00:06:50.358 --> 00:06:52.348 In art you can never go to far. 00:06:52.348 --> 00:06:54.781 In art you have to go too far. 00:06:54.781 --> 00:06:55.784 That is the rule. 00:06:55.784 --> 00:06:59.504 If you are not willing to go too far, then you should stop 00:06:59.504 --> 00:07:04.048 Then you are a cultural "Funktionärs" situation. 00:07:04.048 --> 00:07:09.007 [khhhh] 00:07:09.007 --> 00:07:15.185 We have to make sure that nothing bad is happenning ideogically in the future. 00:07:15.185 --> 00:07:18.183 And that can only do art. 00:07:18.183 --> 00:07:24.953 We cannot counter or be against reality by reality. 00:07:24.953 --> 00:07:30.873 If we use reality to fight reality, we will end up in reality, 00:07:30.873 --> 00:07:33.755 in the bad reality that we fought against. 00:07:33.755 --> 00:07:41.845 As an artist you should only want art to rule the world 00:07:41.845 --> 00:07:45.532 or you as an artist should go home. 00:07:45.881 --> 00:07:51.250 [Music]