WEBVTT 00:00:10.101 --> 00:00:16.140 (Breathes in, breathes out) NOTE Paragraph 00:00:17.435 --> 00:00:21.480 So I didn't always make my living from music. 00:00:21.480 --> 00:00:23.649 For about the five years after graduating 00:00:23.649 --> 00:00:27.016 from an upstanding liberal arts university, 00:00:27.016 --> 00:00:31.103 this was my day job. 00:00:31.103 --> 00:00:35.671 I was a self-employed living statue called the 8-Foot Bride, 00:00:35.671 --> 00:00:39.239 and I love telling people l did this for a job, 00:00:39.239 --> 00:00:41.266 because everybody always wants to know, 00:00:41.266 --> 00:00:44.400 who are these freaks in real life? 00:00:44.400 --> 00:00:46.210 Hello. 00:00:46.210 --> 00:00:49.071 I painted myself white one day, stood on a box, 00:00:49.071 --> 00:00:51.479 put a hat or a can at my feet, 00:00:51.479 --> 00:00:53.675 and when someone came by and dropped in money, 00:00:53.675 --> 00:01:01.736 I handed them a flower and some intense eye contact. 00:01:01.736 --> 00:01:03.207 And if they didn't take the flower, 00:01:03.207 --> 00:01:07.673 I threw in a gesture of sadness and longing 00:01:07.673 --> 00:01:11.738 as they walked away. NOTE Paragraph 00:01:11.738 --> 00:01:15.060 (Laughter) NOTE Paragraph 00:01:15.060 --> 00:01:19.384 So I had the most profound encounters with people, 00:01:19.384 --> 00:01:21.249 especially lonely people who looked 00:01:21.249 --> 00:01:24.345 like they hadn't talked to anyone in weeks, 00:01:24.345 --> 00:01:28.118 and we would get this beautiful moment 00:01:28.118 --> 00:01:32.629 of prolonged eye contact being allowed in a city street, 00:01:32.629 --> 00:01:36.004 and we would sort of fall in love a little bit. 00:01:36.004 --> 00:01:41.766 And my eyes would say, "Thank you. I see you." 00:01:41.766 --> 00:01:44.294 And their eyes would say, 00:01:44.294 --> 00:01:50.481 "Nobody ever sees me. Thank you." NOTE Paragraph 00:01:50.481 --> 00:01:52.357 And I would get harassed sometimes. 00:01:52.357 --> 00:01:54.321 People would yell at me from their passing cars. 00:01:54.321 --> 00:01:56.602 "Get a job!" 00:01:56.602 --> 00:02:00.041 And I'd be, like, "This is my job." 00:02:00.041 --> 00:02:03.774 But it hurt, because it made me fear 00:02:03.774 --> 00:02:07.431 that I was somehow doing something un-joblike 00:02:07.431 --> 00:02:10.887 and unfair, shameful. 00:02:10.887 --> 00:02:16.019 I had no idea how perfect a real education I was getting 00:02:16.019 --> 00:02:18.755 for the music business on this box. 00:02:18.755 --> 00:02:20.254 And for the economists out there, 00:02:20.254 --> 00:02:23.859 you may be interested to know I actually made a pretty predictable income, 00:02:23.859 --> 00:02:25.562 which was shocking to me 00:02:25.562 --> 00:02:28.171 given I had no regular customers, 00:02:28.171 --> 00:02:31.459 but pretty much 60 bucks on a Tuesday, 90 bucks on a Friday. 00:02:31.459 --> 00:02:32.996 It was consistent. NOTE Paragraph 00:02:32.996 --> 00:02:35.490 And meanwhile, I was touring locally 00:02:35.490 --> 00:02:37.592 and playing in nightclubs with my band, the Dresden Dolls. 00:02:37.592 --> 00:02:40.068 This was me on piano, a genius drummer. 00:02:40.068 --> 00:02:42.101 I wrote the songs, and eventually 00:02:42.101 --> 00:02:46.091 we started making enough money that I could quit being a statue, 00:02:46.091 --> 00:02:48.443 and as we started touring, 00:02:48.443 --> 00:02:50.560 I really didn't want to lose this sense 00:02:50.560 --> 00:02:53.822 of direct connection with people, because I loved it. 00:02:53.822 --> 00:02:57.007 So after all of our shows, we would sign autographs 00:02:57.007 --> 00:03:00.248 and hug fans and hang out and talk to people, 00:03:00.248 --> 00:03:05.310 and we made an art out of asking people to help us 00:03:05.310 --> 00:03:07.966 and join us, and I would track down local musicians 00:03:07.966 --> 00:03:12.292 and artists and they would set up outside of our shows, 00:03:12.292 --> 00:03:13.951 and they would pass the hat, 00:03:13.951 --> 00:03:15.501 and then they would come in and join us onstage, 00:03:15.501 --> 00:03:20.331 so we had this rotating smorgasbord of weird, random circus guests. NOTE Paragraph 00:03:20.331 --> 00:03:23.220 And then Twitter came along, 00:03:23.220 --> 00:03:25.568 and made things even more magic, because I could ask 00:03:25.568 --> 00:03:28.035 instantly for anything anywhere. 00:03:28.035 --> 00:03:30.100 So I would need a piano to practice on, 00:03:30.100 --> 00:03:33.308 and an hour later I would be at a fan's house. This is in London. 00:03:33.308 --> 00:03:35.804 People would bring home-cooked food to us 00:03:35.804 --> 00:03:39.628 all over the world backstage and feed us and eat with us. This is in Seattle. 00:03:39.628 --> 00:03:43.334 Fans who worked in museums and stores 00:03:43.334 --> 00:03:46.614 and any kind of public space would wave their hands 00:03:46.614 --> 00:03:50.181 if I would decide to do a last-minute, spontaneous, free gig. 00:03:50.181 --> 00:03:53.301 This is a library in Auckland. 00:03:53.301 --> 00:03:58.161 On Saturday I tweeted for this crate and hat, 00:03:58.161 --> 00:03:59.999 because I did not want to schlep them from the East Coast, 00:03:59.999 --> 00:04:01.753 and they showed up care of this dude, Chris 00:04:01.753 --> 00:04:05.366 from Newport Beach, who says hello. 00:04:05.366 --> 00:04:09.089 I once tweeted, where in Melbourne can I buy a neti pot? 00:04:09.089 --> 00:04:11.880 And a nurse from a hospital drove one 00:04:11.880 --> 00:04:13.848 right at that moment to the cafe I was in, 00:04:13.848 --> 00:04:15.249 and I bought her a smoothie 00:04:15.249 --> 00:04:18.183 and we sat there talking about nursing and death. NOTE Paragraph 00:04:18.183 --> 00:04:20.976 And I love this kind of random closeness, 00:04:20.976 --> 00:04:24.890 which is lucky, because I do a lot of couchsurfing. 00:04:24.890 --> 00:04:28.880 In mansions where everyone in my crew gets their own room 00:04:28.880 --> 00:04:31.658 but there's no wireless, and in punk squats, 00:04:31.658 --> 00:04:34.837 everyone on the floor in one room with no toilets 00:04:34.837 --> 00:04:38.654 but with wireless, clearly making it the better option. NOTE Paragraph 00:04:38.654 --> 00:04:40.579 (Laughter) NOTE Paragraph 00:04:40.579 --> 00:04:42.982 My crew once pulled our van 00:04:42.982 --> 00:04:46.933 up to a really poor Miami neighborhood 00:04:46.933 --> 00:04:49.358 and we found out that our couchsurfing host for the night 00:04:49.358 --> 00:04:52.382 was an 18-year-old girl, still living at home, 00:04:52.382 --> 00:04:57.006 and her family were all undocumented immigrants from Honduras. 00:04:57.006 --> 00:04:59.503 And that night, her whole family 00:04:59.503 --> 00:05:02.782 took the couches and she slept together with her mom 00:05:02.782 --> 00:05:05.542 so that we could take their beds. 00:05:05.542 --> 00:05:08.046 And I lay there thinking, 00:05:08.046 --> 00:05:11.087 these people have so little. 00:05:11.087 --> 00:05:13.806 Is this fair? 00:05:13.806 --> 00:05:16.362 And in the morning, her mom taught us how 00:05:16.362 --> 00:05:18.914 to try to make tortillas and wanted to give me a Bible, 00:05:18.914 --> 00:05:24.827 and she took me aside and she said to me in her broken English, 00:05:24.827 --> 00:05:29.802 "Your music has helped my daughter so much. 00:05:29.802 --> 00:05:33.846 Thank you for staying here. We're all so grateful." 00:05:33.846 --> 00:05:37.702 And I thought, this is fair. 00:05:37.702 --> 00:05:41.383 This is this. NOTE Paragraph 00:05:41.383 --> 00:05:43.997 A couple months later, I was in Manhattan, 00:05:43.997 --> 00:05:46.537 and I tweeted for a crash pad, and at midnight, 00:05:46.537 --> 00:05:48.441 I'm ringing a doorbell on the Lower East Side, 00:05:48.441 --> 00:05:50.907 and it occurs to me I've never actually done this alone. 00:05:50.907 --> 00:05:52.453 I've always been with my band or my crew. 00:05:52.453 --> 00:05:56.945 Is this what stupid people do? (Laughter) 00:05:56.945 --> 00:05:59.432 Is this how stupid people die? 00:05:59.432 --> 00:06:01.498 And before I can change my mind, the door busts open. 00:06:01.498 --> 00:06:05.016 She's an artist. He's a financial blogger for Reuters, 00:06:05.016 --> 00:06:07.330 and they're pouring me a glass of red wine 00:06:07.330 --> 00:06:08.501 and offering me a bath, 00:06:08.501 --> 00:06:13.456 and I have had thousands of nights like that and like that. NOTE Paragraph 00:06:13.456 --> 00:06:17.481 So I couchsurf a lot. I also crowdsurf a lot. 00:06:17.481 --> 00:06:20.809 I maintain couchsurfing and crowdsurfing 00:06:20.809 --> 00:06:23.097 are basically the same thing. 00:06:23.097 --> 00:06:25.601 You're falling into the audience 00:06:25.601 --> 00:06:27.097 and you're trusting each other. 00:06:27.097 --> 00:06:29.717 I once asked an opening band of mine 00:06:29.717 --> 00:06:32.240 if they wanted to go out into the crowd and pass the hat 00:06:32.240 --> 00:06:34.368 to get themselves some extra money, something that I did a lot. 00:06:34.368 --> 00:06:36.513 And as usual, the band was psyched, 00:06:36.513 --> 00:06:38.625 but there was this one guy in the band 00:06:38.625 --> 00:06:42.740 who told me he just couldn't bring himself to go out there. 00:06:42.740 --> 00:06:46.728 It felt too much like begging to stand there with the hat. 00:06:46.728 --> 00:06:55.410 And I recognized his fear of "Is this fair?" and "Get a job." NOTE Paragraph 00:06:55.410 --> 00:06:58.856 And meanwhile, my band is becoming bigger and bigger. 00:06:58.856 --> 00:07:01.130 We signed with a major label. 00:07:01.130 --> 00:07:03.891 And our music is a cross between punk and cabaret. 00:07:03.891 --> 00:07:06.096 It's not for everybody. 00:07:06.096 --> 00:07:09.464 Well, maybe it's for you. 00:07:09.464 --> 00:07:13.408 We sign, and there's all this hype leading up to our next record. 00:07:13.408 --> 00:07:18.740 And it comes out and it sells about 25,000 copies in the first few weeks, 00:07:18.740 --> 00:07:22.116 and the label considers this a failure. NOTE Paragraph 00:07:22.116 --> 00:07:24.667 And I was like, "25,000, isn't that a lot?" NOTE Paragraph 00:07:24.667 --> 00:07:27.300 They were like, "No, the sales are going down. It's a failure." 00:07:27.300 --> 00:07:29.578 And they walk off. NOTE Paragraph 00:07:29.578 --> 00:07:32.609 Right at this same time, I'm signing and hugging after a gig, 00:07:32.609 --> 00:07:34.753 and a guy comes up to me 00:07:34.753 --> 00:07:37.025 and hands me a $10 bill, 00:07:37.025 --> 00:07:38.379 and he says, 00:07:38.379 --> 00:07:42.137 "I'm sorry, I burned your CD from a friend." 00:07:42.137 --> 00:07:45.386 (Laughter) 00:07:45.386 --> 00:07:48.851 "But I read your blog, I know you hate your label. 00:07:48.851 --> 00:07:51.385 I just want you to have this money." NOTE Paragraph 00:07:51.385 --> 00:07:55.225 And this starts happening all the time. 00:07:55.225 --> 00:07:58.690 I become the hat after my own gigs, 00:07:58.690 --> 00:08:01.976 but I have to physically stand there and take the help from people, 00:08:01.976 --> 00:08:04.185 and unlike the guy in the opening band, 00:08:04.185 --> 00:08:08.215 I've actually had a lot of practice standing there. 00:08:08.215 --> 00:08:10.331 Thank you. NOTE Paragraph 00:08:10.331 --> 00:08:12.482 And this is the moment I decide 00:08:12.482 --> 00:08:15.274 I'm just going to give away my music for free 00:08:15.274 --> 00:08:17.106 online whenever possible, 00:08:17.106 --> 00:08:20.342 so it's like Metallica over here, Napster, bad; 00:08:20.342 --> 00:08:23.130 Amanda Palmer over here, and I'm going to encourage 00:08:23.130 --> 00:08:27.479 torrenting, downloading, sharing, but I'm going to ask for help, 00:08:27.479 --> 00:08:30.999 because I saw it work on the street. 00:08:30.999 --> 00:08:33.927 So I fought my way off my label and for my next project 00:08:33.927 --> 00:08:36.631 with my new band, the Grand Theft Orchestra, 00:08:36.631 --> 00:08:39.359 I turned to crowdfunding, 00:08:39.359 --> 00:08:43.527 and I fell into those thousands of connections that I'd made, 00:08:43.527 --> 00:08:46.295 and I asked my crowd to catch me. 00:08:46.295 --> 00:08:49.343 And the goal was 100,000 dollars. 00:08:49.343 --> 00:08:52.848 My fans backed me at nearly 1.2 million, 00:08:52.848 --> 00:08:56.103 which was the biggest music crowdfunding project to date. NOTE Paragraph 00:08:56.103 --> 00:09:00.191 (Applause) NOTE Paragraph 00:09:00.191 --> 00:09:04.208 And you can see how many people it is. 00:09:04.208 --> 00:09:08.239 It's about 25,000 people. NOTE Paragraph 00:09:08.239 --> 00:09:10.567 And the media asked, "Amanda, 00:09:10.567 --> 00:09:12.941 the music business is tanking and you encourage piracy. 00:09:12.941 --> 00:09:14.986 How did you make all these people pay for music?" 00:09:14.986 --> 00:09:20.258 And the real answer is, I didn't make them. I asked them. 00:09:20.258 --> 00:09:23.387 And through the very act of asking people, 00:09:23.387 --> 00:09:25.836 I'd connected with them, 00:09:25.836 --> 00:09:30.771 and when you connect with them, people want to help you. 00:09:30.771 --> 00:09:34.545 It's kind of counterintuitive for a lot of artists. 00:09:34.545 --> 00:09:36.200 They don't want to ask for things. 00:09:36.200 --> 00:09:42.116 But it's not easy. It's not easy to ask. 00:09:42.116 --> 00:09:44.331 And a lot of artists have a problem with this. 00:09:44.331 --> 00:09:46.572 Asking makes you vulnerable. NOTE Paragraph 00:09:46.572 --> 00:09:50.935 And I got a lot of criticism online 00:09:50.935 --> 00:09:52.782 after my Kickstarter went big 00:09:52.782 --> 00:09:55.564 for continuing my crazy crowdsourcing practices, 00:09:55.564 --> 00:09:57.983 specifically for asking musicians 00:09:57.983 --> 00:10:00.829 who are fans if they wanted to join us on stage 00:10:00.829 --> 00:10:04.331 for a few songs in exchange for love and tickets 00:10:04.331 --> 00:10:07.428 and beer, and this was a doctored image 00:10:07.428 --> 00:10:10.756 that went up of me on a website. 00:10:10.756 --> 00:10:13.997 And this hurt in a really familiar way. 00:10:13.997 --> 00:10:16.971 And people saying, "You're not allowed anymore 00:10:16.971 --> 00:10:18.735 to ask for that kind of help," 00:10:18.735 --> 00:10:23.303 really reminded me of the people in their cars yelling, "Get a job." 00:10:23.303 --> 00:10:27.687 Because they weren't with us on the sidewalk, 00:10:27.687 --> 00:10:31.233 and they couldn't see the exchange 00:10:31.233 --> 00:10:33.270 that was happening between me and my crowd, 00:10:33.270 --> 00:10:38.760 an exchange that was very fair to us but alien to them. NOTE Paragraph 00:10:38.760 --> 00:10:40.684 So this is slightly not safe for work. 00:10:40.684 --> 00:10:43.356 This is my Kickstarter backer party in Berlin. 00:10:43.356 --> 00:10:46.837 At the end of the night, I stripped and let everyone draw on me. 00:10:46.837 --> 00:10:49.656 Now let me tell you, if you want to experience 00:10:49.656 --> 00:10:52.735 the visceral feeling of trusting strangers, 00:10:52.735 --> 00:10:54.837 I recommend this, 00:10:54.837 --> 00:10:58.953 especially if those strangers are drunk German people. 00:10:58.953 --> 00:11:03.595 This was a ninja master-level fan connection, 00:11:03.595 --> 00:11:06.503 because what I was really saying here was, 00:11:06.503 --> 00:11:09.103 I trust you this much. 00:11:09.103 --> 00:11:13.223 Should I? Show me. NOTE Paragraph 00:11:13.223 --> 00:11:15.069 For most of human history, 00:11:15.069 --> 00:11:20.411 musicians, artists, they've been part of the community, 00:11:20.411 --> 00:11:24.834 connectors and openers, not untouchable stars. 00:11:24.834 --> 00:11:29.176 Celebrity is about a lot of people loving you from a distance, 00:11:29.176 --> 00:11:31.199 but the Internet and the content 00:11:31.199 --> 00:11:33.807 that we're freely able to share on it 00:11:33.807 --> 00:11:36.744 are taking us back. 00:11:36.744 --> 00:11:40.452 It's about a few people loving you up close 00:11:40.452 --> 00:11:44.939 and about those people being enough. 00:11:44.939 --> 00:11:47.154 So a lot of people are confused by the idea 00:11:47.154 --> 00:11:48.308 of no hard sticker price. 00:11:48.308 --> 00:11:51.690 They see it as an unpredictable risk, but the things I've done, 00:11:51.690 --> 00:11:53.874 the Kickstarter, the street, the doorbell, 00:11:53.874 --> 00:11:56.002 I don't see these things as risk. 00:11:56.002 --> 00:11:57.807 I see them as trust. 00:11:57.807 --> 00:12:01.315 Now, the online tools to make the exchange 00:12:01.315 --> 00:12:04.681 as easy and as instinctive as the street, 00:12:04.681 --> 00:12:06.603 they're getting there. 00:12:06.603 --> 00:12:10.202 But the perfect tools aren't going to help us 00:12:10.202 --> 00:12:12.670 if we can't face each other 00:12:12.670 --> 00:12:15.478 and give and receive fearlessly, 00:12:15.478 --> 00:12:18.299 but, more important, 00:12:18.299 --> 00:12:21.818 to ask without shame. NOTE Paragraph 00:12:21.818 --> 00:12:24.492 My music career has been spent 00:12:24.492 --> 00:12:27.506 trying to encounter people on the Internet 00:12:27.506 --> 00:12:30.003 the way I could on the box, 00:12:30.003 --> 00:12:33.515 so blogging and tweeting not just about my tour dates 00:12:33.515 --> 00:12:37.106 and my new video but about our work and our art 00:12:37.106 --> 00:12:41.689 and our fears and our hangovers, our mistakes, 00:12:41.689 --> 00:12:43.707 and we see each other. 00:12:43.707 --> 00:12:47.558 And I think when we really see each other, 00:12:47.558 --> 00:12:50.410 we want to help each other. NOTE Paragraph 00:12:50.410 --> 00:12:54.926 I think people have been obsessed with the wrong question, 00:12:54.926 --> 00:12:58.540 which is, "How do we make people pay for music?" 00:12:58.540 --> 00:13:00.988 What if we started asking, 00:13:00.988 --> 00:13:05.632 "How do we let people pay for music?" NOTE Paragraph 00:13:05.632 --> 00:13:08.483 Thank you. NOTE Paragraph 00:13:08.483 --> 00:13:12.483 (Applause)