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Format: Layer, Start, End, Style, Name, MarginL, MarginR, MarginV, Effect, Text
Dialogue: 0,0:00:10.00,0:00:12.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(water running)
Dialogue: 0,0:00:15.56,0:00:18.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I soak all the wood.\NI actually clean it all.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:19.49,0:00:21.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Just so it's as smooth
Dialogue: 0,0:00:23.41,0:00:25.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and usable as possible, you know?
Dialogue: 0,0:00:28.24,0:00:30.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's got a little baby slug in it, see?
Dialogue: 0,0:00:36.25,0:00:40.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think I've always been\Na city girl with a nature brain.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:42.04,0:00:45.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I've always loved animals,\Nand plants, and insects.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:47.08,0:00:52.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Wangechi Mutu: Between the Earth and the Sky]
Dialogue: 0,0:00:52.27,0:00:54.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(light violin music)
Dialogue: 0,0:00:55.93,0:00:59.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Nature has entered my work,
Dialogue: 0,0:00:59.14,0:01:00.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where I've been able to integrate
Dialogue: 0,0:01:00.78,0:01:03.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,my love and interest for\Nhow little organisms behave
Dialogue: 0,0:01:03.84,0:01:06.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,into these larger themes.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:08.40,0:01:10.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I want to make work\Nthat sits within nature,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:10.56,0:01:13.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sits under the sky, and the sun,\Nand the rain, and the wind.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:15.04,0:01:16.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,--All cleaned up.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:16.66,0:01:18.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(violin music continues)
Dialogue: 0,0:01:26.86,0:01:31.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Wangechi Mutu Studio, Nairobi, Kenya]
Dialogue: 0,0:01:44.92,0:01:47.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(clanking)
Dialogue: 0,0:01:49.58,0:01:51.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(mechanical whirring)
Dialogue: 0,0:01:57.01,0:01:58.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(clanking)
Dialogue: 0,0:02:02.84,0:02:06.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I have a bird on top of\Nthe head of this sentinel.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:08.09,0:02:09.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,--Yeah.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:09.05,0:02:10.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(man murmurs inaudibly)
Dialogue: 0,0:02:10.48,0:02:12.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,--I've put nails in,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:12.47,0:02:14.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,--but then I had to tape it\Nbecause actually
Dialogue: 0,0:02:14.11,0:02:16.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,--some of them are pretty short.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:16.00,0:02:18.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,--I'm wondering if you can epoxy these in,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:18.92,0:02:20.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,--and then what I'll do is I'll fill in.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:21.76,0:02:23.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,--This is actually fine.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:24.15,0:02:25.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(mechanical whirring, drill like sound)
Dialogue: 0,0:02:27.07,0:02:30.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm generally a multitasking being.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:30.01,0:02:32.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's how I've always done things.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:32.10,0:02:33.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There's always been a little bit of this,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:33.45,0:02:34.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a little bit of that,\Na little bit of this,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:34.63,0:02:37.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,everywhere there's something going on.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:37.38,0:02:39.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(light piano music)
Dialogue: 0,0:02:43.27,0:02:45.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When I'm sculpting or when I'm painting,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:45.43,0:02:47.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there's always something that's damp.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:53.06,0:02:55.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So drying is a big part of the work.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:57.44,0:02:59.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I have to sort of time\Nall of those things.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:04.01,0:03:05.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Sometimes a three-dimensional piece
Dialogue: 0,0:03:05.48,0:03:07.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,will completely influence
Dialogue: 0,0:03:07.11,0:03:10.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,how I end up working on\Na two-dimensional piece.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:10.84,0:03:14.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There's a lot of osmosis\Nand learning from my work.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:17.93,0:03:20.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(tapping)
Dialogue: 0,0:03:20.94,0:03:22.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(light piano music continues)
Dialogue: 0,0:03:26.98,0:03:29.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(birds chirp)
Dialogue: 0,0:03:33.85,0:03:37.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,My earliest childhood memories\Nare in this one particular
Dialogue: 0,0:03:37.89,0:03:41.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,area that we lived in called Woodley.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:41.33,0:03:42.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Lived in a little bungalow.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:42.84,0:03:44.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So you have one floor,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:44.27,0:03:46.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,have a garden around.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:46.13,0:03:47.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I remember playing in the garden.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:47.49,0:03:50.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I remember the dry grass.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:50.24,0:03:53.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We did a lot of\Nplaying with our toys
Dialogue: 0,0:03:53.24,0:03:56.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in sections of the garden\Nthat we weren't supposed to.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:56.24,0:03:59.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We got very dirty in the garden.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:59.57,0:04:02.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was a bit of a wild space.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:02.74,0:04:06.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Those memories have made\Nan impact on how I work.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:08.39,0:04:10.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(birds chirping)
Dialogue: 0,0:04:13.10,0:04:17.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I went to a Catholic school,\Nand we were all girls.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:17.12,0:04:19.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was surrounded by women,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:19.51,0:04:20.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,women teachers,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:20.38,0:04:22.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,women students,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:22.56,0:04:24.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the Virgin Mary,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:24.31,0:04:26.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,all kinds of feminine energy.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:27.61,0:04:30.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And because I think of it as\Nsuch a massively universal
Dialogue: 0,0:04:30.71,0:04:33.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,part of humanity,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:33.07,0:04:35.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm able to keep pulling from it.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:35.13,0:04:38.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's an eternal source\Nof inspiration for me.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:38.01,0:04:39.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(light violin music)
Dialogue: 0,0:04:39.13,0:04:43.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,["The NewOnes, will free Us" (2019),\NThe Metropolitan Museum of Art]
Dialogue: 0,0:04:46.14,0:04:49.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The way we worship the image of the woman
Dialogue: 0,0:04:49.61,0:04:54.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but denigrate the actual\Nhuman being of woman,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:54.01,0:04:55.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that schism bothers me,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:55.90,0:04:58.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it's obviously something\Nthat has plagued us
Dialogue: 0,0:04:58.20,0:04:59.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for a long, long time.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:59.20,0:05:01.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So that's what I'm looking for.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:02.35,0:05:04.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(violin music continues,\Nand a harp plays too)
Dialogue: 0,0:05:07.27,0:05:10.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,["Sentinels"]
Dialogue: 0,0:05:11.93,0:05:15.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The "Sentinels" are this regal figure,
Dialogue: 0,0:05:15.05,0:05:17.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who is standing,
Dialogue: 0,0:05:17.80,0:05:21.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,representing a female
Dialogue: 0,0:05:21.09,0:05:23.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,divine, feminine form.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:25.94,0:05:29.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I want to make sure that\Nshe is absolutely stable,
Dialogue: 0,0:05:29.29,0:05:30.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that she is able to stand.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:31.60,0:05:33.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I realized they look like these soldiers,
Dialogue: 0,0:05:33.36,0:05:37.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like they were guarding me, or us--
Dialogue: 0,0:05:37.31,0:05:38.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,guarding language,
Dialogue: 0,0:05:38.77,0:05:41.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,guarding the earth that they're made from.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:42.58,0:05:44.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I call them "Sentinels."
Dialogue: 0,0:05:50.89,0:05:53.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Growing up in Kenya, during\Nthe seventies and eighties,
Dialogue: 0,0:05:53.00,0:05:57.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you're learning British\Ngeography, European history,
Dialogue: 0,0:05:57.17,0:06:00.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we had not touched on African literature.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:00.12,0:06:02.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We hadn't even looked at our own histories
Dialogue: 0,0:06:02.45,0:06:05.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and our own heritage and culture,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:05.52,0:06:08.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because a lot of Kenyans\Nare so Christianized.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:09.48,0:06:11.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There isn't one particular\Nway of seeing things.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:11.99,0:06:13.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And in fact,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:13.17,0:06:16.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when there is a singular\Nvoice or singular story,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:16.52,0:06:20.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it tends to be domineering,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:20.07,0:06:21.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,problematic, and often fictional.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:21.84,0:06:22.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:22.67,0:06:24.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there's no way that can be one way to tell
Dialogue: 0,0:06:26.94,0:06:27.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the whole story.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:31.10,0:06:32.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I wanted to be able to say
Dialogue: 0,0:06:32.97,0:06:34.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"These are the places I come from,"
Dialogue: 0,0:06:34.61,0:06:36.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"these are the people we come from."
Dialogue: 0,0:06:37.81,0:06:40.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I decided to apply to art school.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:40.62,0:06:42.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I had to aim for the moon,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:42.27,0:06:44.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so I applied to schools in New York.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:44.78,0:06:46.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(quick tempo music)
Dialogue: 0,0:06:49.75,0:06:54.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Collage, first and foremost,\Nwas the most accessible
Dialogue: 0,0:06:54.55,0:06:57.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and impactful way for me to work.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:58.57,0:07:01.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,All the tools and supplies\Nthat I was afforded
Dialogue: 0,0:07:01.51,0:07:05.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,by being in a big fancy\Nuniversity were gone.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:05.75,0:07:09.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was deeply invested in\Nbecoming a serious artist,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:09.16,0:07:10.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but I didn't have the means,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:10.36,0:07:12.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so I started painting with watercolors.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:15.89,0:07:18.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Working with really, really\Nwet and fluid materials,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:18.34,0:07:19.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there's always a surprise.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:21.43,0:07:22.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(quick tempo music continues)
Dialogue: 0,0:07:27.39,0:07:31.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But I also realized that\Nthere was this added tension
Dialogue: 0,0:07:31.03,0:07:32.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that I was looking for.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:33.58,0:07:36.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I would mix things from\Na wildlife magazine,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:36.39,0:07:41.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or some fashion magazine,\Nor vintage illustration.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:41.27,0:07:43.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I would mix that with my watercolors,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:43.84,0:07:47.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I loved the fact that I had grafted\Nand brought them together,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:47.62,0:07:50.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and now you had to read\Nit for what it was.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:54.99,0:07:57.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(piano music)
Dialogue: 0,0:08:06.25,0:08:08.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The collages developed and grew larger.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:08.38,0:08:09.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I think at that point,
Dialogue: 0,0:08:09.56,0:08:12.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was really thinking about\Nthe history of photography,
Dialogue: 0,0:08:12.17,0:08:16.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and how photography and\Ncolonization grew in impact
Dialogue: 0,0:08:16.22,0:08:18.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in a very similar way--
Dialogue: 0,0:08:18.13,0:08:20.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and how we photographed the "other."
Dialogue: 0,0:08:20.82,0:08:25.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The "other" was photographed,\Nand packaged, and consumed.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:27.30,0:08:30.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Seeing yourself represented that way
Dialogue: 0,0:08:30.62,0:08:34.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,impacted you as a colonized "other,"
Dialogue: 0,0:08:34.12,0:08:38.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and how your image essentially\Nbecame who you were.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:40.67,0:08:42.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(violin music)
Dialogue: 0,0:08:47.97,0:08:50.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The currency that\Nphotography has afforded me
Dialogue: 0,0:08:50.36,0:08:51.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is extremely important.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:53.35,0:08:55.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I don't think it's something\NI've been able to articulate,
Dialogue: 0,0:08:55.58,0:08:59.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but it's always paintings\Nthat have photography
Dialogue: 0,0:08:59.55,0:09:01.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,dancing behind them.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:01.65,0:09:03.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(violin music continues)
Dialogue: 0,0:09:20.13,0:09:22.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Combining humans and animals,
Dialogue: 0,0:09:22.24,0:09:24.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's as old as the human mind.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:25.58,0:09:28.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(different strings music)
Dialogue: 0,0:09:41.90,0:09:43.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Crocodylus" was this hybrid
Dialogue: 0,0:09:43.48,0:09:46.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,between a woman and a powerful animal.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:47.43,0:09:51.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Gladstone Gallery, New York City]
Dialogue: 0,0:09:54.54,0:09:57.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We've always admired certain\Ncreatures for their elegance
Dialogue: 0,0:09:57.90,0:09:59.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and their enormous strength.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:03.17,0:10:05.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,One of the first things that we ever did
Dialogue: 0,0:10:05.45,0:10:07.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is look at some creature and go,\N"Oh my gosh,"
Dialogue: 0,0:10:07.30,0:10:09.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"I wish that had that speed,\Nor that power,"
Dialogue: 0,0:10:09.67,0:10:11.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"or the stealth, or the courage."
Dialogue: 0,0:10:12.22,0:10:13.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(different string music continues)
Dialogue: 0,0:10:17.16,0:10:21.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"MamaRay" is a woman who is a veil,
Dialogue: 0,0:10:22.19,0:10:23.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,an ocean herself,
Dialogue: 0,0:10:23.42,0:10:24.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a shield,
Dialogue: 0,0:10:24.69,0:10:25.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and a ray.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:26.83,0:10:29.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was very interested\Nin the marks
Dialogue: 0,0:10:29.87,0:10:32.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that draw us to look at something.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:33.23,0:10:36.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Texture produces shadow, and\Ntone, and light, and rhythm,
Dialogue: 0,0:10:36.69,0:10:39.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and provokes us to look\Nlonger at something.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:57.08,0:11:00.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,All my foundational teaching\Nand work was in New York.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:01.16,0:11:04.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Once I began exhibiting, my base was there
Dialogue: 0,0:11:04.19,0:11:05.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so it made sense to be there.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:05.54,0:11:07.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But then for the longest time,
Dialogue: 0,0:11:07.23,0:11:09.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I wasn't able to travel\Nback and forth
Dialogue: 0,0:11:09.21,0:11:11.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,between Nairobi and New York.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:12.13,0:11:13.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And for those years,
Dialogue: 0,0:11:13.04,0:11:16.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I struggled with\Nmy perception of home.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:17.56,0:11:19.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(soft music)
Dialogue: 0,0:11:20.25,0:11:21.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I realized, "Okay,"
Dialogue: 0,0:11:21.76,0:11:24.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"this is the secret to a certain way"
Dialogue: 0,0:11:24.60,0:11:28.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"that I've been trying to work and think,"
Dialogue: 0,0:11:28.62,0:11:30.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which is to be able to compare
Dialogue: 0,0:11:33.05,0:11:34.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and look at myself
Dialogue: 0,0:11:34.85,0:11:36.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from one place
Dialogue: 0,0:11:36.83,0:11:38.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where this as a backdrop from the other,
Dialogue: 0,0:11:38.81,0:11:39.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with that as a backdrop,
Dialogue: 0,0:11:39.99,0:11:43.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then combine that understanding.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:43.20,0:11:45.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(soft music continues)
Dialogue: 0,0:11:45.26,0:11:48.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(birds chirping)
Dialogue: 0,0:11:55.02,0:11:57.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(machine whirring)
Dialogue: 0,0:12:15.09,0:12:19.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The soil has become important\Nfor me in this Nairobi studio,
Dialogue: 0,0:12:19.95,0:12:22.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because I actually identify with the soil.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:27.18,0:12:29.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's the soil that\NI remember from my childhood--
Dialogue: 0,0:12:30.24,0:12:31.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the color of the soil,
Dialogue: 0,0:12:31.61,0:12:33.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the feeling of the soil, the texture,
Dialogue: 0,0:12:33.13,0:12:35.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the way it behaves when\Nit's dry, when it's wet,
Dialogue: 0,0:12:35.50,0:12:36.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when it rains.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:38.43,0:12:41.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In New York, I don't feel that\Nsame sense of identification
Dialogue: 0,0:12:41.31,0:12:42.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with the soil there.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:42.39,0:12:43.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I don't trust the soil;
Dialogue: 0,0:12:43.47,0:12:46.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I always think that there's\Nother things going on
Dialogue: 0,0:12:46.38,0:12:48.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the soil that I haven't put in
Dialogue: 0,0:12:48.89,0:12:51.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and weren't put in there in\Nthe first place by nature.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:51.46,0:12:54.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So there's this distance\Nbetween me and the ground.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:56.17,0:13:00.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Whereas here, I tend to\Nimmediately want to capture
Dialogue: 0,0:13:00.77,0:13:03.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the essence of the soil,\Nthe malleability, the color,
Dialogue: 0,0:13:03.47,0:13:06.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the crispiness, the granular aspects.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:06.61,0:13:10.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,All of those things are\Nimportant for me in the work.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:18.16,0:13:20.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I truly believe that\Nthere's something about
Dialogue: 0,0:13:20.61,0:13:25.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,taking these bits and\Npieces of trees and animals
Dialogue: 0,0:13:25.82,0:13:28.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and completely anonymous,
Dialogue: 0,0:13:28.64,0:13:32.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but extremely identifiable items,
Dialogue: 0,0:13:32.10,0:13:35.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and placing them somewhere\Nthat draws their energy.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:35.94,0:13:37.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Whatever they were coming from,
Dialogue: 0,0:13:37.13,0:13:37.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,whatever they did,
Dialogue: 0,0:13:37.96,0:13:42.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,whatever molten lava they came\Nout of a million years ago,
Dialogue: 0,0:13:42.51,0:13:44.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that is now in my work.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:45.16,0:13:49.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And that little piece\Nof energy is magnified.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:50.43,0:13:52.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(soft music continues)
Dialogue: 0,0:13:56.32,0:13:59.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm trying to just push up\Nthe volume on how incredibly
Dialogue: 0,0:13:59.91,0:14:04.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,important every single plant\Nand animal and human is
Dialogue: 0,0:14:04.43,0:14:07.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in keeping us all alive and afloat.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:07.64,0:14:10.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's how I look at things\Nwhen I'm in the studio.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:11.85,0:14:14.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When I feel like I'm really\Nhaving fun and playing,
Dialogue: 0,0:14:14.72,0:14:15.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there's fear in it.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:15.88,0:14:18.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The suspicion of things being found,
Dialogue: 0,0:14:18.36,0:14:19.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,all of that,
Dialogue: 0,0:14:19.28,0:14:20.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when that enters into the work,
Dialogue: 0,0:14:20.91,0:14:23.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that's when I'm in my absolute mode.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:23.44,0:14:24.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(music builds)