WEBVTT 00:00:01.600 --> 00:00:03.340 [TATTOO NEEDLE BUZZING] 00:00:13.540 --> 00:00:16.700 My experience being tattooed, 00:00:16.700 --> 00:00:19.040 it's almost like a rite of passage. 00:00:20.480 --> 00:00:22.880 A lot of times I'll feel like 00:00:22.890 --> 00:00:26.270 I'm going through a change or a transformation in my life 00:00:26.270 --> 00:00:29.740 where I need there to be something that symbolizes that. 00:00:32.380 --> 00:00:36.820 Being a fine artist, I always wanted to do tattoos. 00:00:38.640 --> 00:00:41.660 Getting an image etched into your skin, 00:00:41.660 --> 00:00:45.600 and what it looks like when the needle penetrates through it. 00:00:48.380 --> 00:00:52.390 It's a lot of submission and dominance that you have to be really mindful of; 00:00:52.390 --> 00:00:55.760 especially because I'm working on people of color. 00:00:57.820 --> 00:01:00.340 It's a really violent act, 00:01:00.340 --> 00:01:02.960 but you have to perform that with a lot of care. 00:01:04.740 --> 00:01:08.240 [Doreen Garner's Invisible Man Tattoo] 00:01:09.260 --> 00:01:10.880 [Brooklyn Navy Yard] 00:01:10.880 --> 00:01:11.980 [February 2018] 00:01:11.980 --> 00:01:15.680 --So if you could read and initial in the boxes. 00:01:15.680 --> 00:01:18.050 --On the third sheet, there's an after care sheet. 00:01:18.050 --> 00:01:21.260 --I don't know if you need it. If you want it, it's fine. 00:01:21.260 --> 00:01:26.130 --And then the last sheet is the design, but printed in different sizes, 00:01:26.130 --> 00:01:27.940 --so let me know which one you want. 00:01:28.200 --> 00:01:29.900 --You can have a seat and chill out. 00:01:31.260 --> 00:01:35.720 [Doreen is running a pop-up tattoo shop at the Recess art space] 00:01:35.720 --> 00:01:41.360 For all of the images of American traditional tattoos all over the country, 00:01:41.360 --> 00:01:42.480 there's always a void. 00:01:42.480 --> 00:01:45.000 There's no Black presence. 00:01:46.040 --> 00:01:53.960 There's no imagery even acknowledging Blackness as a contribution to American life. 00:01:57.160 --> 00:02:00.740 I wanted to provide a place for people to feel comfortable, 00:02:00.740 --> 00:02:03.560 not only as far as the environment-- 00:02:03.560 --> 00:02:04.870 Who's working here? 00:02:04.870 --> 00:02:06.490 Who's operating in this space?-- 00:02:06.490 --> 00:02:10.590 but also finding themselves in the imagery on the walls 00:02:10.590 --> 00:02:13.500 to make them feel like this is a place for them. 00:02:13.820 --> 00:02:15.440 [TATTOO NEEDLE BUZZING] 00:02:17.040 --> 00:02:18.060 [DAVID JOSEPH] This really hurts. 00:02:19.160 --> 00:02:19.840 [GARNER] It does? 00:02:20.780 --> 00:02:23.800 [JOSEPH] Um, no I think the talking helps. 00:02:24.240 --> 00:02:25.260 [GARNER] Oh, yeah. 00:02:25.260 --> 00:02:26.780 [JOSEPH] But I am dying on the inside, though... 00:02:26.780 --> 00:02:27.460 [GARNER] Okay. 00:02:27.460 --> 00:02:28.540 [JOSEPH] ...like, a slow death. 00:02:30.360 --> 00:02:33.319 [JOSEPH] I remember being in a hotel room in South Carolina, 00:02:33.320 --> 00:02:35.740 watching this Black Panther documentary, 00:02:35.740 --> 00:02:37.820 and I was instantly inspired by it. 00:02:37.820 --> 00:02:41.920 So I started reading up more on the Black Panthers and what they were about. 00:02:42.920 --> 00:02:45.200 I just hate the timing of me getting this now, 00:02:45.200 --> 00:02:46.280 because of the movie. 00:02:46.280 --> 00:02:47.000 [BOTH LAUGH] 00:02:47.010 --> 00:02:48.450 [GARNER] It reeks of cornball. 00:02:48.450 --> 00:02:49.600 [JOSEPH] Yeah! 00:02:49.600 --> 00:02:51.340 It's like, really? 00:02:52.520 --> 00:02:56.020 You might as well just tattoo "Wakanda" on my forehead. 00:03:00.000 --> 00:03:03.240 I had someone tell me, "Color won't look that good on you." 00:03:04.280 --> 00:03:05.560 [BOTH LAUGH] 00:03:07.020 --> 00:03:09.340 [GARNER] It's a crime to tell Black people they can't have color. 00:03:09.880 --> 00:03:11.120 [JOSEPH] It is a crime! 00:03:11.120 --> 00:03:12.500 You should never say that. 00:03:12.500 --> 00:03:17.560 And I didn't hear it just one time, I heard it a couple times. 00:03:18.640 --> 00:03:22.080 So it discouraged me from even getting something like that; 00:03:22.080 --> 00:03:23.460 I'm like, alright, maybe I won't. 00:03:28.440 --> 00:03:32.579 [GARNER] I do feel like tattooing provides a nice break for me-- 00:03:32.579 --> 00:03:36.790 where I am still being creative, it's just on a different canvas. 00:03:36.790 --> 00:03:41.940 And that canvas has everything to do with the rest of my work conceptually. 00:03:44.280 --> 00:03:49.120 I end up learning a lot about the body, just through the process of tattooing. 00:03:50.880 --> 00:03:52.220 I think it's higher stakes, 00:03:52.220 --> 00:03:54.700 because people are way more forgiving of fine art. 00:03:56.100 --> 00:03:58.520 You can have really horrible paintings-- 00:03:58.520 --> 00:04:01.900 like really, really, really bad craftsmanship-- 00:04:01.900 --> 00:04:05.680 and that is still regarded as a work of art. 00:04:05.690 --> 00:04:09.540 Where, if you have a tattoo where the lines are all shaky, 00:04:09.540 --> 00:04:12.129 and it's colored outside the lines, 00:04:12.129 --> 00:04:14.230 it's like, "That dude fucked that up." 00:04:14.230 --> 00:04:16.120 "You should get your money back." 00:04:21.060 --> 00:04:22.960 Wait, you said that's from "The Color Purple"? 00:04:24.620 --> 00:04:28.700 [SONYA SPANN] It's the closing scene of the movie where, 00:04:28.700 --> 00:04:31.460 Ms. Celie, who is played by Whoopi Goldberg, 00:04:31.460 --> 00:04:34.520 she goes into this dialogue where she's like, 00:04:34.520 --> 00:04:36.900 "I might be poor. I might be Black." 00:04:36.900 --> 00:04:38.840 "I might even be ugly." 00:04:38.840 --> 00:04:40.360 "But dear God, I'm here." 00:04:40.360 --> 00:04:41.340 "I'm here." 00:04:44.860 --> 00:04:46.020 I work in technology 00:04:46.030 --> 00:04:50.360 and I tend to be someone who most people don't anticipate 00:04:50.360 --> 00:04:53.569 belongs in the room, or should be in the room. 00:04:53.569 --> 00:04:59.460 For me, having these words is like a reminder that I am here 00:04:59.460 --> 00:05:01.330 because I am supposed to be here, 00:05:01.330 --> 00:05:03.120 because I'm meant to be here. 00:05:03.560 --> 00:05:12.700 It also represents a rebelliousness that I think I have. 00:05:14.180 --> 00:05:15.980 Not "I think I have" but "I have." 00:05:16.320 --> 00:05:17.120 [MAN, OFF-SCREEN] You're a rebel? 00:05:17.860 --> 00:05:18.840 [GARNER] She's getting a tattoo. 00:05:18.840 --> 00:05:20.000 [BOTH LAUGH] 00:05:20.000 --> 00:05:20.840 [SPANN] Two! 00:05:30.600 --> 00:05:33.340 [GARNER] We're going to do a Black Panther party 00:05:33.340 --> 00:05:35.500 for the release of the "Black Panther" film. 00:05:37.060 --> 00:05:39.680 Basically, since I saw the trailer, 00:05:39.690 --> 00:05:44.190 I had it in my mind that I wanted to go into the film "squad-deep," 00:05:44.190 --> 00:05:48.720 which meant I need a slew of other Black people to come with me. 00:05:49.820 --> 00:05:53.760 [FRIEND #1] Do you think you ever see White kids dressing up as Black Panther? 00:05:53.760 --> 00:05:54.940 [FRIEND #2] No. 00:05:54.940 --> 00:05:57.500 It's weird, because it becomes a Black people thing. 00:05:57.500 --> 00:05:59.960 But, there's this expectation for us 00:05:59.960 --> 00:06:03.620 to just absorb and digest superhero movies like nothing-- 00:06:03.620 --> 00:06:05.720 like Spiderman, you know? 00:06:08.520 --> 00:06:14.740 [GARNER] I feel like Black people have always known that Black people are amazing. 00:06:14.750 --> 00:06:17.289 But we need to stop bullshitting around. 00:06:17.289 --> 00:06:20.090 We need to really let people know who we are. 00:06:20.090 --> 00:06:21.400 Just like they did in the film. 00:06:23.100 --> 00:06:27.180 As far as myself, there were some things where I would hold back-- 00:06:27.180 --> 00:06:30.880 thinking about fear and not being accepted. 00:06:33.260 --> 00:06:38.620 I ended up sculpting this place thinking about what would make me feel comfortable. 00:06:39.440 --> 00:06:43.820 All of my work talks about pain that was inflicted. 00:06:43.830 --> 00:06:49.220 But then in this instance, I'm using pain, but as a method of healing. 00:06:49.220 --> 00:06:52.129 I feel like that's what goes on when you get a tattoo, 00:06:52.129 --> 00:06:54.060 you're initiating your own healing. 00:06:54.060 --> 00:06:58.040 And because these images are so celebratory of Black excellence 00:06:58.050 --> 00:06:59.580 and Black history, 00:06:59.580 --> 00:07:03.000 it's kind of initiating a healing for Black people. 00:07:12.300 --> 00:07:16.160 [SPANN] I just imagine myself being an old woman 00:07:16.600 --> 00:07:17.600 [LAUGHS] 00:07:18.440 --> 00:07:21.300 and looking down at this, like, 00:07:22.140 --> 00:07:24.420 "Yes, I am here." 00:07:24.430 --> 00:07:25.430 "I am present." 00:07:25.430 --> 00:07:26.729 "I am still here."