1 00:00:01,600 --> 00:00:03,340 [TATTOO NEEDLE BUZZING] 2 00:00:13,540 --> 00:00:16,700 My experience being tattooed, 3 00:00:16,700 --> 00:00:19,040 it's almost like a rite of passage. 4 00:00:20,480 --> 00:00:22,880 A lot of times I'll feel like 5 00:00:22,890 --> 00:00:26,270 I'm going through a change or a transformation in my life 6 00:00:26,270 --> 00:00:29,740 where I need there to be something that symbolizes that. 7 00:00:32,380 --> 00:00:36,820 Being a fine artist, I always wanted to do tattoos. 8 00:00:38,640 --> 00:00:41,660 Getting an image etched into your skin, 9 00:00:41,660 --> 00:00:45,600 and what it looks like when the needle penetrates through it. 10 00:00:48,380 --> 00:00:52,390 It's a lot of submission and dominance that you have to be really mindful of; 11 00:00:52,390 --> 00:00:55,760 especially because I'm working on people of color. 12 00:00:57,820 --> 00:01:00,340 It's a really violent act, 13 00:01:00,340 --> 00:01:02,960 but you have to perform that with a lot of care. 14 00:01:04,740 --> 00:01:08,240 [Doreen Garner's Invisible Man Tattoo] 15 00:01:09,260 --> 00:01:10,880 [Brooklyn Navy Yard] 16 00:01:10,880 --> 00:01:11,980 [February 2018] 17 00:01:11,980 --> 00:01:15,680 --So if you could read and initial in the boxes. 18 00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:18,050 --On the third sheet, there's an after care sheet. 19 00:01:18,050 --> 00:01:21,260 --I don't know if you need it. If you want it, it's fine. 20 00:01:21,260 --> 00:01:26,130 --And then the last sheet is the design, but printed in different sizes, 21 00:01:26,130 --> 00:01:27,940 --so let me know which one you want. 22 00:01:28,200 --> 00:01:29,900 --You can have a seat and chill out. 23 00:01:31,260 --> 00:01:35,720 [Doreen is running a pop-up tattoo shop at the Recess art space] 24 00:01:35,720 --> 00:01:41,360 For all of the images of American traditional tattoos all over the country, 25 00:01:41,360 --> 00:01:42,480 there's always a void. 26 00:01:42,480 --> 00:01:45,000 There's no Black presence. 27 00:01:46,040 --> 00:01:53,960 There's no imagery even acknowledging Blackness as a contribution to American life. 28 00:01:57,160 --> 00:02:00,740 I wanted to provide a place for people to feel comfortable, 29 00:02:00,740 --> 00:02:03,560 not only as far as the environment-- 30 00:02:03,560 --> 00:02:04,870 Who's working here? 31 00:02:04,870 --> 00:02:06,490 Who's operating in this space?-- 32 00:02:06,490 --> 00:02:10,590 but also finding themselves in the imagery on the walls 33 00:02:10,590 --> 00:02:13,500 to make them feel like this is a place for them. 34 00:02:13,820 --> 00:02:15,440 [TATTOO NEEDLE BUZZING] 35 00:02:17,040 --> 00:02:18,060 [DAVID JOSEPH] This really hurts. 36 00:02:19,160 --> 00:02:19,840 [GARNER] It does? 37 00:02:20,780 --> 00:02:23,800 [JOSEPH] Um, no I think the talking helps. 38 00:02:24,240 --> 00:02:25,260 [GARNER] Oh, yeah. 39 00:02:25,260 --> 00:02:26,780 [JOSEPH] But I am dying on the inside, though... 40 00:02:26,780 --> 00:02:27,460 [GARNER] Okay. 41 00:02:27,460 --> 00:02:28,540 [JOSEPH] ...like, a slow death. 42 00:02:30,360 --> 00:02:33,319 [JOSEPH] I remember being in a hotel room in South Carolina, 43 00:02:33,320 --> 00:02:35,740 watching this Black Panther documentary, 44 00:02:35,740 --> 00:02:37,820 and I was instantly inspired by it. 45 00:02:37,820 --> 00:02:41,920 So I started reading up more on the Black Panthers and what they were about. 46 00:02:42,920 --> 00:02:45,200 I just hate the timing of me getting this now, 47 00:02:45,200 --> 00:02:46,280 because of the movie. 48 00:02:46,280 --> 00:02:47,000 [BOTH LAUGH] 49 00:02:47,010 --> 00:02:48,450 [GARNER] It reeks of cornball. 50 00:02:48,450 --> 00:02:49,600 [JOSEPH] Yeah! 51 00:02:49,600 --> 00:02:51,340 It's like, really? 52 00:02:52,520 --> 00:02:56,020 You might as well just tattoo "Wakanda" on my forehead. 53 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:03,240 I had someone tell me, "Color won't look that good on you." 54 00:03:04,280 --> 00:03:05,560 [BOTH LAUGH] 55 00:03:07,020 --> 00:03:09,340 [GARNER] It's a crime to tell Black people they can't have color. 56 00:03:09,880 --> 00:03:11,120 [JOSEPH] It is a crime! 57 00:03:11,120 --> 00:03:12,500 You should never say that. 58 00:03:12,500 --> 00:03:17,560 And I didn't hear it just one time, I heard it a couple times. 59 00:03:18,640 --> 00:03:22,080 So it discouraged me from even getting something like that; 60 00:03:22,080 --> 00:03:23,460 I'm like, alright, maybe I won't. 61 00:03:28,440 --> 00:03:32,579 [GARNER] I do feel like tattooing provides a nice break for me-- 62 00:03:32,579 --> 00:03:36,790 where I am still being creative, it's just on a different canvas. 63 00:03:36,790 --> 00:03:41,940 And that canvas has everything to do with the rest of my work conceptually. 64 00:03:44,280 --> 00:03:49,120 I end up learning a lot about the body, just through the process of tattooing. 65 00:03:50,880 --> 00:03:52,220 I think it's higher stakes, 66 00:03:52,220 --> 00:03:54,700 because people are way more forgiving of fine art. 67 00:03:56,100 --> 00:03:58,520 You can have really horrible paintings-- 68 00:03:58,520 --> 00:04:01,900 like really, really, really bad craftsmanship-- 69 00:04:01,900 --> 00:04:05,680 and that is still regarded as a work of art. 70 00:04:05,690 --> 00:04:09,540 Where, if you have a tattoo where the lines are all shaky, 71 00:04:09,540 --> 00:04:12,129 and it's colored outside the lines, 72 00:04:12,129 --> 00:04:14,230 it's like, "That dude fucked that up." 73 00:04:14,230 --> 00:04:16,120 "You should get your money back." 74 00:04:21,060 --> 00:04:22,960 Wait, you said that's from "The Color Purple"? 75 00:04:24,620 --> 00:04:28,700 [SONYA SPANN] It's the closing scene of the movie where, 76 00:04:28,700 --> 00:04:31,460 Ms. Celie, who is played by Whoopi Goldberg, 77 00:04:31,460 --> 00:04:34,520 she goes into this dialogue where she's like, 78 00:04:34,520 --> 00:04:36,900 "I might be poor. I might be Black." 79 00:04:36,900 --> 00:04:38,840 "I might even be ugly." 80 00:04:38,840 --> 00:04:40,360 "But dear God, I'm here." 81 00:04:40,360 --> 00:04:41,340 "I'm here." 82 00:04:44,860 --> 00:04:46,020 I work in technology 83 00:04:46,030 --> 00:04:50,360 and I tend to be someone who most people don't anticipate 84 00:04:50,360 --> 00:04:53,569 belongs in the room, or should be in the room. 85 00:04:53,569 --> 00:04:59,460 For me, having these words is like a reminder that I am here 86 00:04:59,460 --> 00:05:01,330 because I am supposed to be here, 87 00:05:01,330 --> 00:05:03,120 because I'm meant to be here. 88 00:05:03,560 --> 00:05:12,700 It also represents a rebelliousness that I think I have. 89 00:05:14,180 --> 00:05:15,980 Not "I think I have" but "I have." 90 00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:17,120 [MAN, OFF-SCREEN] You're a rebel? 91 00:05:17,860 --> 00:05:18,840 [GARNER] She's getting a tattoo. 92 00:05:18,840 --> 00:05:20,000 [BOTH LAUGH] 93 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:20,840 [SPANN] Two! 94 00:05:30,600 --> 00:05:33,340 [GARNER] We're going to do a Black Panther party 95 00:05:33,340 --> 00:05:35,500 for the release of the "Black Panther" film. 96 00:05:37,060 --> 00:05:39,680 Basically, since I saw the trailer, 97 00:05:39,690 --> 00:05:44,190 I had it in my mind that I wanted to go into the film "squad-deep," 98 00:05:44,190 --> 00:05:48,720 which meant I need a slew of other Black people to come with me. 99 00:05:49,820 --> 00:05:53,760 [FRIEND #1] Do you think you ever see White kids dressing up as Black Panther? 100 00:05:53,760 --> 00:05:54,940 [FRIEND #2] No. 101 00:05:54,940 --> 00:05:57,500 It's weird, because it becomes a Black people thing. 102 00:05:57,500 --> 00:05:59,960 But, there's this expectation for us 103 00:05:59,960 --> 00:06:03,620 to just absorb and digest superhero movies like nothing-- 104 00:06:03,620 --> 00:06:05,720 like Spiderman, you know? 105 00:06:08,520 --> 00:06:14,740 [GARNER] I feel like Black people have always known that Black people are amazing. 106 00:06:14,750 --> 00:06:17,289 But we need to stop bullshitting around. 107 00:06:17,289 --> 00:06:20,090 We need to really let people know who we are. 108 00:06:20,090 --> 00:06:21,400 Just like they did in the film. 109 00:06:23,100 --> 00:06:27,180 As far as myself, there were some things where I would hold back-- 110 00:06:27,180 --> 00:06:30,880 thinking about fear and not being accepted. 111 00:06:33,260 --> 00:06:38,620 I ended up sculpting this place thinking about what would make me feel comfortable. 112 00:06:39,440 --> 00:06:43,820 All of my work talks about pain that was inflicted. 113 00:06:43,830 --> 00:06:49,220 But then in this instance, I'm using pain, but as a method of healing. 114 00:06:49,220 --> 00:06:52,129 I feel like that's what goes on when you get a tattoo, 115 00:06:52,129 --> 00:06:54,060 you're initiating your own healing. 116 00:06:54,060 --> 00:06:58,040 And because these images are so celebratory of Black excellence 117 00:06:58,050 --> 00:06:59,580 and Black history, 118 00:06:59,580 --> 00:07:03,000 it's kind of initiating a healing for Black people. 119 00:07:12,300 --> 00:07:16,160 [SPANN] I just imagine myself being an old woman 120 00:07:16,600 --> 00:07:17,600 [LAUGHS] 121 00:07:18,440 --> 00:07:21,300 and looking down at this, like, 122 00:07:22,140 --> 00:07:24,420 "Yes, I am here." 123 00:07:24,430 --> 00:07:25,430 "I am present." 124 00:07:25,430 --> 00:07:26,729 "I am still here."