[Script Info] Title: [Events] Format: Layer, Start, End, Style, Name, MarginL, MarginR, MarginV, Effect, Text Dialogue: 0,0:00:00.00,0:00:03.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What I want to talk to you about Dialogue: 0,0:00:03.00,0:00:05.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is what we can learn from studying the genomes Dialogue: 0,0:00:05.00,0:00:07.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of living people Dialogue: 0,0:00:07.00,0:00:09.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and extinct humans. Dialogue: 0,0:00:09.00,0:00:11.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But before doing that, Dialogue: 0,0:00:11.00,0:00:14.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I just briefly want to remind you about what you already know: Dialogue: 0,0:00:14.00,0:00:16.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that our genomes, our genetic material, Dialogue: 0,0:00:16.00,0:00:19.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are stored in almost all cells in our bodies in chromosomes Dialogue: 0,0:00:19.00,0:00:21.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the form of DNA, Dialogue: 0,0:00:21.00,0:00:24.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which is this famous double-helical molecule. Dialogue: 0,0:00:24.00,0:00:26.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And the genetic information Dialogue: 0,0:00:26.00,0:00:28.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is contained in the form of a sequence Dialogue: 0,0:00:28.00,0:00:30.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of four bases Dialogue: 0,0:00:30.00,0:00:33.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,abbreviated with the letters A, T, C and G. Dialogue: 0,0:00:33.00,0:00:35.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And the information is there twice -- Dialogue: 0,0:00:35.00,0:00:37.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,one on each strand -- Dialogue: 0,0:00:37.00,0:00:39.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which is important, Dialogue: 0,0:00:39.00,0:00:41.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because when new cells are formed, these strands come apart, Dialogue: 0,0:00:41.00,0:00:44.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,new strands are synthesized with the old ones as templates Dialogue: 0,0:00:44.00,0:00:47.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in an almost perfect process. Dialogue: 0,0:00:47.00,0:00:49.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But nothing, of course, in nature Dialogue: 0,0:00:49.00,0:00:51.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is totally perfect, Dialogue: 0,0:00:51.00,0:00:53.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so sometimes an error is made Dialogue: 0,0:00:53.00,0:00:56.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and a wrong letter is built in. Dialogue: 0,0:00:56.00,0:00:58.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And we can then see the result Dialogue: 0,0:00:58.00,0:01:00.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of such mutations Dialogue: 0,0:01:00.00,0:01:02.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when we compare DNA sequences Dialogue: 0,0:01:02.00,0:01:05.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,among us here in the room, for example. Dialogue: 0,0:01:05.00,0:01:08.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If we compare my genome to the genome of you, Dialogue: 0,0:01:08.00,0:01:12.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,approximately every 1,200, 1,300 letters Dialogue: 0,0:01:12.00,0:01:14.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,will differ between us. Dialogue: 0,0:01:14.00,0:01:16.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And these mutations accumulate Dialogue: 0,0:01:16.00,0:01:19.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,approximately as a function of time. Dialogue: 0,0:01:19.00,0:01:22.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So if we add in a chimpanzee here, we will see more differences. Dialogue: 0,0:01:22.00,0:01:25.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Approximately one letter in a hundred Dialogue: 0,0:01:25.00,0:01:27.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,will differ from a chimpanzee. Dialogue: 0,0:01:27.00,0:01:29.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And if you're then interested in the history Dialogue: 0,0:01:29.00,0:01:31.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of a piece of DNA, or the whole genome, Dialogue: 0,0:01:31.00,0:01:34.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you can reconstruct the history of the DNA Dialogue: 0,0:01:34.00,0:01:36.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with those differences you observe. Dialogue: 0,0:01:36.00,0:01:40.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And generally we depict our ideas about this history Dialogue: 0,0:01:40.00,0:01:42.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the form of trees like this. Dialogue: 0,0:01:42.00,0:01:44.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In this case, it's very simple. Dialogue: 0,0:01:44.00,0:01:46.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The two human DNA sequences Dialogue: 0,0:01:46.00,0:01:49.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,go back to a common ancestor quite recently. Dialogue: 0,0:01:49.00,0:01:53.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Farther back is there one shared with chimpanzees. Dialogue: 0,0:01:53.00,0:01:56.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And because these mutations Dialogue: 0,0:01:56.00,0:01:58.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,happen approximately as a function of time, Dialogue: 0,0:01:58.00,0:02:00.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you can transform these differences Dialogue: 0,0:02:00.00,0:02:02.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to estimates of time, Dialogue: 0,0:02:02.00,0:02:04.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where the two humans, typically, Dialogue: 0,0:02:04.00,0:02:08.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,will share a common ancestor about half a million years ago, Dialogue: 0,0:02:08.00,0:02:10.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and with the chimpanzees, Dialogue: 0,0:02:10.00,0:02:13.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it will be in the order of five million years ago. Dialogue: 0,0:02:13.00,0:02:15.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So what has now happened in the last few years Dialogue: 0,0:02:15.00,0:02:17.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is that there are account technologies around Dialogue: 0,0:02:17.00,0:02:21.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that allow you to see many, many pieces of DNA very quickly. Dialogue: 0,0:02:21.00,0:02:23.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So we can now, in a matter of hours, Dialogue: 0,0:02:23.00,0:02:26.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,determine a whole human genome. Dialogue: 0,0:02:26.00,0:02:29.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Each of us, of course, contains two human genomes -- Dialogue: 0,0:02:29.00,0:02:32.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,one from our mothers and one from our fathers. Dialogue: 0,0:02:32.00,0:02:36.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And they are around three billion such letters long. Dialogue: 0,0:02:36.00,0:02:38.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And we will find that the two genomes in me, Dialogue: 0,0:02:38.00,0:02:40.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or one genome of mine we want to use, Dialogue: 0,0:02:40.00,0:02:43.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,will have about three million differences Dialogue: 0,0:02:43.00,0:02:45.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the order of that. Dialogue: 0,0:02:45.00,0:02:47.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And what you can then also begin to do Dialogue: 0,0:02:47.00,0:02:49.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is to say, "How are these genetic differences Dialogue: 0,0:02:49.00,0:02:51.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,distributed across the world?" Dialogue: 0,0:02:51.00,0:02:53.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And if you do that, Dialogue: 0,0:02:53.00,0:02:57.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you find a certain amount of genetic variation in Africa. Dialogue: 0,0:02:57.00,0:03:00.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And if you look outside Africa, Dialogue: 0,0:03:00.00,0:03:03.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you actually find less genetic variation. Dialogue: 0,0:03:03.00,0:03:05.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is surprising, of course, Dialogue: 0,0:03:05.00,0:03:08.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because in the order of six to eight times fewer people Dialogue: 0,0:03:08.00,0:03:11.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,live in Africa than outside Africa. Dialogue: 0,0:03:11.00,0:03:14.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yet the people inside Africa Dialogue: 0,0:03:14.00,0:03:17.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,have more genetic variation. Dialogue: 0,0:03:17.00,0:03:19.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Moreover, almost all these genetic variants Dialogue: 0,0:03:19.00,0:03:21.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we see outside Africa Dialogue: 0,0:03:21.00,0:03:23.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,have closely related DNA sequences Dialogue: 0,0:03:23.00,0:03:25.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that you find inside Africa. Dialogue: 0,0:03:25.00,0:03:27.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But if you look in Africa, Dialogue: 0,0:03:27.00,0:03:30.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there is a component of the genetic variation Dialogue: 0,0:03:30.00,0:03:33.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that has no close relatives outside. Dialogue: 0,0:03:33.00,0:03:36.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So a model to explain this Dialogue: 0,0:03:36.00,0:03:39.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is that a part of the African variation, but not all of it, Dialogue: 0,0:03:39.00,0:03:43.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[has] gone out and colonized the rest of the world. Dialogue: 0,0:03:43.00,0:03:47.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And together with the methods to date these genetic differences, Dialogue: 0,0:03:47.00,0:03:49.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this has led to the insight Dialogue: 0,0:03:49.00,0:03:51.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that modern humans -- Dialogue: 0,0:03:51.00,0:03:54.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,humans that are essentially indistinguishable from you and me -- Dialogue: 0,0:03:54.00,0:03:57.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,evolved in Africa, quite recently, Dialogue: 0,0:03:57.00,0:04:01.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,between 100 and 200,000 years ago. Dialogue: 0,0:04:01.00,0:04:05.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And later, between 100 and 50,000 years ago or so, Dialogue: 0,0:04:05.00,0:04:07.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,went out of Africa Dialogue: 0,0:04:07.00,0:04:09.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to colonize the rest of the world. Dialogue: 0,0:04:09.00,0:04:11.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So what I often like to say Dialogue: 0,0:04:11.00,0:04:13.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is that, from a genomic perspective, Dialogue: 0,0:04:13.00,0:04:15.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we are all Africans. Dialogue: 0,0:04:15.00,0:04:18.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We either live inside Africa today, Dialogue: 0,0:04:18.00,0:04:20.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or in quite recent exile. Dialogue: 0,0:04:20.00,0:04:22.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Another consequence Dialogue: 0,0:04:22.00,0:04:25.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of this recent origin of modern humans Dialogue: 0,0:04:25.00,0:04:27.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is that genetic variants Dialogue: 0,0:04:27.00,0:04:29.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are generally distributed widely in the world, Dialogue: 0,0:04:29.00,0:04:31.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in many places, Dialogue: 0,0:04:31.00,0:04:34.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and they tend to vary as gradients, Dialogue: 0,0:04:34.00,0:04:38.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from a bird's-eye perspective at least. Dialogue: 0,0:04:38.00,0:04:40.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And since there are many genetic variants, Dialogue: 0,0:04:40.00,0:04:43.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and they have different such gradients, Dialogue: 0,0:04:43.00,0:04:46.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this means that if we determine a DNA sequence -- Dialogue: 0,0:04:46.00,0:04:49.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a genome from one individual -- Dialogue: 0,0:04:49.00,0:04:51.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we can quite accurately estimate Dialogue: 0,0:04:51.00,0:04:53.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where that person comes from, Dialogue: 0,0:04:53.00,0:04:55.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,provided that its parents or grandparents Dialogue: 0,0:04:55.00,0:04:58.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,haven't moved around too much. Dialogue: 0,0:04:58.00,0:05:00.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But does this then mean, Dialogue: 0,0:05:00.00,0:05:02.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as many people tend to think, Dialogue: 0,0:05:02.00,0:05:05.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that there are huge genetic differences between groups of people -- Dialogue: 0,0:05:05.00,0:05:07.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on different continents, for example? Dialogue: 0,0:05:07.00,0:05:10.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Well we can begin to ask those questions also. Dialogue: 0,0:05:10.00,0:05:13.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There is, for example, a project that's underway Dialogue: 0,0:05:13.00,0:05:15.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to sequence a thousand individuals -- Dialogue: 0,0:05:15.00,0:05:18.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,their genomes -- from different parts of the world. Dialogue: 0,0:05:18.00,0:05:21.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They've sequenced 185 Africans Dialogue: 0,0:05:21.00,0:05:24.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from two populations in Africa. Dialogue: 0,0:05:24.00,0:05:27.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[They've] sequenced approximately equally [as] many people Dialogue: 0,0:05:27.00,0:05:30.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in Europe and in China. Dialogue: 0,0:05:30.00,0:05:33.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And we can begin to say how much variance do we find, Dialogue: 0,0:05:33.00,0:05:36.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,how many letters that vary Dialogue: 0,0:05:36.00,0:05:39.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in at least one of those individual sequences. Dialogue: 0,0:05:39.00,0:05:43.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And it's a lot: 38 million variable positions. Dialogue: 0,0:05:43.00,0:05:46.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But we can then ask: Are there any absolute differences Dialogue: 0,0:05:46.00,0:05:48.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,between Africans and non-Africans? Dialogue: 0,0:05:48.00,0:05:50.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Perhaps the biggest difference Dialogue: 0,0:05:50.00,0:05:52.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,most of us would imagine existed. Dialogue: 0,0:05:52.00,0:05:54.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And with absolute difference -- Dialogue: 0,0:05:54.00,0:05:56.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I mean a difference Dialogue: 0,0:05:56.00,0:05:59.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where people inside Africa at a certain position, Dialogue: 0,0:05:59.00,0:06:02.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where all individuals -- 100 percent -- have one letter, Dialogue: 0,0:06:02.00,0:06:06.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and everybody outside Africa has another letter. Dialogue: 0,0:06:06.00,0:06:09.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And the answer to that, among those millions of differences, Dialogue: 0,0:06:09.00,0:06:12.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is that there is not a single such position. Dialogue: 0,0:06:14.00,0:06:16.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This may be surprising. Dialogue: 0,0:06:16.00,0:06:19.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Maybe a single individual is misclassified or so. Dialogue: 0,0:06:19.00,0:06:21.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So we can relax the criterion a bit Dialogue: 0,0:06:21.00,0:06:23.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and say: How many positions do we find Dialogue: 0,0:06:23.00,0:06:25.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where 95 percent of people in Africa have Dialogue: 0,0:06:25.00,0:06:27.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,one variant, Dialogue: 0,0:06:27.00,0:06:29.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,95 percent another variant, Dialogue: 0,0:06:29.00,0:06:31.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the number of that is 12. Dialogue: 0,0:06:31.00,0:06:33.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So this is very surprising. Dialogue: 0,0:06:33.00,0:06:35.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It means that when we look at people Dialogue: 0,0:06:35.00,0:06:38.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and see a person from Africa Dialogue: 0,0:06:38.00,0:06:41.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and a person from Europe or Asia, Dialogue: 0,0:06:41.00,0:06:45.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we cannot, for a single position in the genome with 100 percent accuracy, Dialogue: 0,0:06:45.00,0:06:47.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,predict what the person would carry. Dialogue: 0,0:06:47.00,0:06:49.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And only for 12 positions Dialogue: 0,0:06:49.00,0:06:53.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,can we hope to be 95 percent right. Dialogue: 0,0:06:53.00,0:06:55.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This may be surprising, Dialogue: 0,0:06:55.00,0:06:57.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because we can, of course, look at these people Dialogue: 0,0:06:57.00,0:07:01.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and quite easily say where they or their ancestors came from. Dialogue: 0,0:07:01.00,0:07:03.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So what this means now Dialogue: 0,0:07:03.00,0:07:05.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is that those traits we then look at Dialogue: 0,0:07:05.00,0:07:07.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and so readily see -- Dialogue: 0,0:07:07.00,0:07:10.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,facial features, skin color, hair structure -- Dialogue: 0,0:07:10.00,0:07:14.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are not determined by single genes with big effects, Dialogue: 0,0:07:14.00,0:07:17.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but are determined by many different genetic variants Dialogue: 0,0:07:17.00,0:07:19.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that seem to vary in frequency Dialogue: 0,0:07:19.00,0:07:21.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,between different parts of the world. Dialogue: 0,0:07:21.00,0:07:24.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There is another thing with those traits Dialogue: 0,0:07:24.00,0:07:27.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that we so easily observe in each other Dialogue: 0,0:07:27.00,0:07:29.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that I think is worthwhile to consider, Dialogue: 0,0:07:29.00,0:07:32.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and that is that, in a very literal sense, Dialogue: 0,0:07:32.00,0:07:35.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they're really on the surface of our bodies. Dialogue: 0,0:07:35.00,0:07:37.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They are what we just said -- Dialogue: 0,0:07:37.00,0:07:40.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,facial features, hair structure, skin color. Dialogue: 0,0:07:40.00,0:07:42.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There are also a number of features Dialogue: 0,0:07:42.00,0:07:44.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that vary between continents like that Dialogue: 0,0:07:44.00,0:07:48.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that have to do with how we metabolize food that we ingest, Dialogue: 0,0:07:48.00,0:07:50.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or that have to do Dialogue: 0,0:07:50.00,0:07:53.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with how our immune systems deal with microbes Dialogue: 0,0:07:53.00,0:07:55.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that try to invade our bodies. Dialogue: 0,0:07:55.00,0:07:57.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But so those are all parts of our bodies Dialogue: 0,0:07:57.00,0:08:00.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where we very directly interact with our environment, Dialogue: 0,0:08:00.00,0:08:04.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in a direct confrontation, if you like. Dialogue: 0,0:08:04.00,0:08:06.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's easy to imagine Dialogue: 0,0:08:06.00,0:08:08.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,how particularly those parts of our bodies Dialogue: 0,0:08:08.00,0:08:11.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,were quickly influenced by selection from the environment Dialogue: 0,0:08:11.00,0:08:13.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and shifted frequencies of genes Dialogue: 0,0:08:13.00,0:08:15.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that are involved in them. Dialogue: 0,0:08:15.00,0:08:18.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But if we look on other parts of our bodies Dialogue: 0,0:08:18.00,0:08:20.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where we don't directly interact with the environment -- Dialogue: 0,0:08:20.00,0:08:23.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,our kidneys, our livers, our hearts -- Dialogue: 0,0:08:23.00,0:08:25.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there is no way to say, Dialogue: 0,0:08:25.00,0:08:27.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,by just looking at these organs, Dialogue: 0,0:08:27.00,0:08:30.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where in the world they would come from. Dialogue: 0,0:08:31.00,0:08:33.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So there's another interesting thing Dialogue: 0,0:08:33.00,0:08:36.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that comes from this realization Dialogue: 0,0:08:36.00,0:08:40.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that humans have a recent common origin in Africa, Dialogue: 0,0:08:40.00,0:08:43.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and that is that when those humans emerged Dialogue: 0,0:08:43.00,0:08:45.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,around 100,000 years ago or so, Dialogue: 0,0:08:45.00,0:08:47.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they were not alone on the planet. Dialogue: 0,0:08:47.00,0:08:50.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There were other forms of humans around, Dialogue: 0,0:08:50.00,0:08:53.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,most famously perhaps, Neanderthals -- Dialogue: 0,0:08:53.00,0:08:55.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,these robust forms of humans, Dialogue: 0,0:08:55.00,0:08:57.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,compared to the left here Dialogue: 0,0:08:57.00,0:09:01.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with a modern human skeleton on the right -- Dialogue: 0,0:09:01.00,0:09:04.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that existed in Western Asia and Europe Dialogue: 0,0:09:04.00,0:09:06.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,since several hundreds of thousands of years. Dialogue: 0,0:09:06.00,0:09:08.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So an interesting question is, Dialogue: 0,0:09:08.00,0:09:10.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what happened when we met? Dialogue: 0,0:09:10.00,0:09:12.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What happened to the Neanderthals? Dialogue: 0,0:09:12.00,0:09:14.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And to begin to answer such questions, Dialogue: 0,0:09:14.00,0:09:18.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,my research group -- since over 25 years now -- Dialogue: 0,0:09:18.00,0:09:20.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,works on methods to extract DNA Dialogue: 0,0:09:20.00,0:09:22.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from remains of Neanderthals Dialogue: 0,0:09:22.00,0:09:24.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and extinct animals Dialogue: 0,0:09:24.00,0:09:27.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that are tens of thousands of years old. Dialogue: 0,0:09:27.00,0:09:30.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So this involves a lot of technical issues Dialogue: 0,0:09:30.00,0:09:32.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in how you extract the DNA, Dialogue: 0,0:09:32.00,0:09:35.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,how you convert it to a form you can sequence. Dialogue: 0,0:09:35.00,0:09:37.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You have to work very carefully Dialogue: 0,0:09:37.00,0:09:40.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to avoid contamination of experiments Dialogue: 0,0:09:40.00,0:09:43.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with DNA from yourself. Dialogue: 0,0:09:43.00,0:09:46.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And this then, in conjunction with these methods Dialogue: 0,0:09:46.00,0:09:50.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that allow very many DNA molecules to be sequenced very rapidly, Dialogue: 0,0:09:50.00,0:09:52.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,allowed us last year Dialogue: 0,0:09:52.00,0:09:55.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to present the first version of the Neanderthal genome, Dialogue: 0,0:09:55.00,0:09:57.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so that any one of you Dialogue: 0,0:09:57.00,0:09:59.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,can now look on the Internet, on the Neanderthal genome, Dialogue: 0,0:09:59.00,0:10:02.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or at least on the 55 percent of it Dialogue: 0,0:10:02.00,0:10:05.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that we've been able to reconstruct so far. Dialogue: 0,0:10:05.00,0:10:07.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And you can begin to compare it to the genomes Dialogue: 0,0:10:07.00,0:10:10.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of people who live today. Dialogue: 0,0:10:10.00,0:10:12.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And one question Dialogue: 0,0:10:12.00,0:10:14.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that you may then want to ask Dialogue: 0,0:10:14.00,0:10:16.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is, what happened when we met? Dialogue: 0,0:10:16.00,0:10:18.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Did we mix or not? Dialogue: 0,0:10:18.00,0:10:20.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And the way to ask that question Dialogue: 0,0:10:20.00,0:10:23.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is to look at the Neanderthal that comes from Southern Europe Dialogue: 0,0:10:23.00,0:10:25.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and compare it to genomes Dialogue: 0,0:10:25.00,0:10:27.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of people who live today. Dialogue: 0,0:10:27.00,0:10:29.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So we then look Dialogue: 0,0:10:29.00,0:10:31.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to do this with pairs of individuals, Dialogue: 0,0:10:31.00,0:10:33.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,starting with two Africans, Dialogue: 0,0:10:33.00,0:10:35.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,looking at the two African genomes, Dialogue: 0,0:10:35.00,0:10:38.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,finding places where they differ from each other, Dialogue: 0,0:10:38.00,0:10:41.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and in each case ask: What is a Neanderthal like? Dialogue: 0,0:10:41.00,0:10:44.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Does it match one African or the other African? Dialogue: 0,0:10:44.00,0:10:47.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We would expect there to be no difference, Dialogue: 0,0:10:47.00,0:10:49.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because Neanderthals were never in Africa. Dialogue: 0,0:10:49.00,0:10:52.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They should be equal, have no reason to be closer Dialogue: 0,0:10:52.00,0:10:55.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to one African than another African. Dialogue: 0,0:10:55.00,0:10:57.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And that's indeed the case. Dialogue: 0,0:10:57.00,0:10:59.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Statistically speaking, there is no difference Dialogue: 0,0:10:59.00,0:11:03.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in how often the Neanderthal matches one African or the other. Dialogue: 0,0:11:03.00,0:11:05.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But this is different Dialogue: 0,0:11:05.00,0:11:09.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if we now look at the European individual and an African. Dialogue: 0,0:11:09.00,0:11:12.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Then, significantly more often, Dialogue: 0,0:11:12.00,0:11:14.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,does a Neanderthal match the European Dialogue: 0,0:11:14.00,0:11:16.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,rather than the African. Dialogue: 0,0:11:16.00,0:11:19.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The same is true if we look at a Chinese individual Dialogue: 0,0:11:19.00,0:11:21.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,versus an African, Dialogue: 0,0:11:21.00,0:11:25.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the Neanderthal will match the Chinese individual more often. Dialogue: 0,0:11:25.00,0:11:27.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This may also be surprising Dialogue: 0,0:11:27.00,0:11:29.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because the Neanderthals were never in China. Dialogue: 0,0:11:29.00,0:11:33.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So the model we've proposed to explain this Dialogue: 0,0:11:33.00,0:11:35.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is that when modern humans came out of Africa Dialogue: 0,0:11:35.00,0:11:38.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sometime after 100,000 years ago, Dialogue: 0,0:11:38.00,0:11:40.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they met Neanderthals. Dialogue: 0,0:11:40.00,0:11:43.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Presumably, they did so first in the Middle East, Dialogue: 0,0:11:43.00,0:11:45.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where there were Neanderthals living. Dialogue: 0,0:11:45.00,0:11:47.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If they then mixed with each other there, Dialogue: 0,0:11:47.00,0:11:49.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then those modern humans Dialogue: 0,0:11:49.00,0:11:51.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that became the ancestors Dialogue: 0,0:11:51.00,0:11:53.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of everyone outside Africa Dialogue: 0,0:11:53.00,0:11:56.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,carried with them this Neanderthal component in their genome Dialogue: 0,0:11:56.00,0:11:58.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to the rest of the world. Dialogue: 0,0:11:58.00,0:12:01.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So that today, the people living outside Africa Dialogue: 0,0:12:01.00,0:12:04.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,have about two and a half percent of their DNA Dialogue: 0,0:12:04.00,0:12:06.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from Neanderthals. Dialogue: 0,0:12:06.00,0:12:09.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So having now a Neanderthal genome Dialogue: 0,0:12:09.00,0:12:11.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on hand as a reference point Dialogue: 0,0:12:11.00,0:12:13.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and having the technologies Dialogue: 0,0:12:13.00,0:12:15.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to look at ancient remains Dialogue: 0,0:12:15.00,0:12:17.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and extract the DNA, Dialogue: 0,0:12:17.00,0:12:21.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we can begin to apply them elsewhere in the world. Dialogue: 0,0:12:21.00,0:12:24.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And the first place we've done that is in Southern Siberia Dialogue: 0,0:12:24.00,0:12:26.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the Altai Mountains Dialogue: 0,0:12:26.00,0:12:28.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,at a place called Denisova, Dialogue: 0,0:12:28.00,0:12:30.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a cave site in this mountain here, Dialogue: 0,0:12:30.00,0:12:33.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where archeologists in 2008 Dialogue: 0,0:12:33.00,0:12:35.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,found a tiny little piece of bone -- Dialogue: 0,0:12:35.00,0:12:37.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this is a copy of it -- Dialogue: 0,0:12:37.00,0:12:41.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that they realized came from the last phalanx Dialogue: 0,0:12:41.00,0:12:44.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of a little finger of a pinky of a human. Dialogue: 0,0:12:44.00,0:12:46.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And it was well enough preserved Dialogue: 0,0:12:46.00,0:12:49.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so we could determine the DNA from this individual, Dialogue: 0,0:12:49.00,0:12:51.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,even to a greater extent Dialogue: 0,0:12:51.00,0:12:53.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,than for the Neanderthals actually, Dialogue: 0,0:12:53.00,0:12:55.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and start relating it to the Neanderthal genome Dialogue: 0,0:12:55.00,0:12:58.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and to people today. Dialogue: 0,0:12:58.00,0:13:00.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And we found that this individual Dialogue: 0,0:13:00.00,0:13:03.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,shared a common origin for his DNA sequences Dialogue: 0,0:13:03.00,0:13:07.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with Neanderthals around 640,000 years ago. Dialogue: 0,0:13:07.00,0:13:10.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And further back, 800,000 years ago Dialogue: 0,0:13:10.00,0:13:12.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is there a common origin Dialogue: 0,0:13:12.00,0:13:14.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with present day humans. Dialogue: 0,0:13:14.00,0:13:16.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So this individual comes from a population Dialogue: 0,0:13:16.00,0:13:19.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that shares an origin with Neanderthals, Dialogue: 0,0:13:19.00,0:13:22.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but far back and then have a long independent history. Dialogue: 0,0:13:22.00,0:13:24.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We call this group of humans, Dialogue: 0,0:13:24.00,0:13:26.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that we then described for the first time Dialogue: 0,0:13:26.00,0:13:28.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from this tiny, tiny little piece of bone, Dialogue: 0,0:13:28.00,0:13:30.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the Denisovans, Dialogue: 0,0:13:30.00,0:13:33.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,after this place where they were first described. Dialogue: 0,0:13:33.00,0:13:36.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So we can then ask for Denisovans Dialogue: 0,0:13:36.00,0:13:38.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the same things as for the Neanderthals: Dialogue: 0,0:13:38.00,0:13:42.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Did they mix with ancestors of present day people? Dialogue: 0,0:13:42.00,0:13:44.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If we ask that question, Dialogue: 0,0:13:44.00,0:13:46.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and compare the Denisovan genome Dialogue: 0,0:13:46.00,0:13:48.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to people around the world, Dialogue: 0,0:13:48.00,0:13:50.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we surprisingly find Dialogue: 0,0:13:50.00,0:13:52.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,no evidence of Denisovan DNA Dialogue: 0,0:13:52.00,0:13:57.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in any people living even close to Siberia today. Dialogue: 0,0:13:57.00,0:13:59.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But we do find it in Papua New Guinea Dialogue: 0,0:13:59.00,0:14:03.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and in other islands in Melanesia and the Pacific. Dialogue: 0,0:14:03.00,0:14:05.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So this presumably means Dialogue: 0,0:14:05.00,0:14:08.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that these Denisovans had been more widespread in the past, Dialogue: 0,0:14:08.00,0:14:11.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,since we don't think that the ancestors of Melanesians Dialogue: 0,0:14:11.00,0:14:13.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,were ever in Siberia. Dialogue: 0,0:14:13.00,0:14:15.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So from studying Dialogue: 0,0:14:15.00,0:14:18.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,these genomes of extinct humans, Dialogue: 0,0:14:18.00,0:14:21.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we're beginning to arrive at a picture of what the world looked like Dialogue: 0,0:14:21.00,0:14:24.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when modern humans started coming out of Africa. Dialogue: 0,0:14:24.00,0:14:27.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In the West, there were Neanderthals; Dialogue: 0,0:14:27.00,0:14:29.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the East, there were Denisovans -- Dialogue: 0,0:14:29.00,0:14:31.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,maybe other forms of humans too Dialogue: 0,0:14:31.00,0:14:33.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that we've not yet described. Dialogue: 0,0:14:33.00,0:14:36.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We don't know quite where the borders between these people were, Dialogue: 0,0:14:36.00,0:14:38.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but we know that in Southern Siberia, Dialogue: 0,0:14:38.00,0:14:40.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there were both Neanderthals and Denisovans Dialogue: 0,0:14:40.00,0:14:43.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,at least at some time in the past. Dialogue: 0,0:14:43.00,0:14:46.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Then modern humans emerged somewhere in Africa, Dialogue: 0,0:14:46.00,0:14:49.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,came out of Africa, presumably in the Middle East. Dialogue: 0,0:14:49.00,0:14:52.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They meet Neanderthals, mix with them, Dialogue: 0,0:14:52.00,0:14:55.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,continue to spread over the world, Dialogue: 0,0:14:55.00,0:14:58.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and somewhere in Southeast Asia, Dialogue: 0,0:14:58.00,0:15:00.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they meet Denisovans and mix with them Dialogue: 0,0:15:00.00,0:15:03.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and continue on out into the Pacific. Dialogue: 0,0:15:03.00,0:15:06.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then these earlier forms of humans disappear, Dialogue: 0,0:15:06.00,0:15:09.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but they live on a little bit today Dialogue: 0,0:15:09.00,0:15:11.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in some of us -- Dialogue: 0,0:15:11.00,0:15:14.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in that people outside of Africa have two and a half percent of their DNA Dialogue: 0,0:15:14.00,0:15:16.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from Neanderthals, Dialogue: 0,0:15:16.00,0:15:18.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and people in Melanesia Dialogue: 0,0:15:18.00,0:15:21.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,actually have an additional five percent approximately Dialogue: 0,0:15:21.00,0:15:24.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from the Denisovans. Dialogue: 0,0:15:24.00,0:15:26.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Does this then mean that there is after all Dialogue: 0,0:15:26.00,0:15:28.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,some absolute difference Dialogue: 0,0:15:28.00,0:15:31.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,between people outside Africa and inside Africa Dialogue: 0,0:15:31.00,0:15:33.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in that people outside Africa Dialogue: 0,0:15:33.00,0:15:35.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,have this old component in their genome Dialogue: 0,0:15:35.00,0:15:37.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from these extinct forms of humans, Dialogue: 0,0:15:37.00,0:15:39.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,whereas Africans do not? Dialogue: 0,0:15:39.00,0:15:42.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Well I don't think that is the case. Dialogue: 0,0:15:42.00,0:15:44.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Presumably, modern humans Dialogue: 0,0:15:44.00,0:15:46.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,emerged somewhere in Africa. Dialogue: 0,0:15:46.00,0:15:49.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They spread across Africa also, of course, Dialogue: 0,0:15:49.00,0:15:52.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and there were older, earlier forms of humans there. Dialogue: 0,0:15:52.00,0:15:54.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And since we mixed elsewhere, Dialogue: 0,0:15:54.00,0:15:56.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm pretty sure that one day, Dialogue: 0,0:15:56.00,0:15:58.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when we will perhaps have a genome Dialogue: 0,0:15:58.00,0:16:00.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of also these earlier forms in Africa, Dialogue: 0,0:16:00.00,0:16:02.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we will find that they have also mixed Dialogue: 0,0:16:02.00,0:16:05.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with early modern humans in Africa. Dialogue: 0,0:16:06.00,0:16:08.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So to sum up, Dialogue: 0,0:16:08.00,0:16:10.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what have we learned from studying genomes Dialogue: 0,0:16:10.00,0:16:12.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of present day humans Dialogue: 0,0:16:12.00,0:16:14.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and extinct humans? Dialogue: 0,0:16:14.00,0:16:16.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We learn perhaps many things, Dialogue: 0,0:16:16.00,0:16:21.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but one thing that I find sort of important to mention Dialogue: 0,0:16:21.00,0:16:24.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is that I think the lesson is that we have always mixed. Dialogue: 0,0:16:24.00,0:16:26.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We mixed with these earlier forms of humans, Dialogue: 0,0:16:26.00,0:16:28.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,wherever we met them, Dialogue: 0,0:16:28.00,0:16:32.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and we mixed with each other ever since. Dialogue: 0,0:16:32.00,0:16:34.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Thank you for your attention. Dialogue: 0,0:16:34.00,0:16:40.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Applause)