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Dialogue: 0,0:00:08.03,0:00:10.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Welcome to a new conference
Dialogue: 0,0:00:10.79,0:00:13.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of the subject of ethic, legislation and profession.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:13.04,0:00:16.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We have a very special guest:
Dialogue: 0,0:00:16.45,0:00:18.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,David Bravo, lawyer expert in intellectual property
Dialogue: 0,0:00:18.96,0:00:21.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and, now, I leave you with him.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:23.24,0:00:27.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Thank you, hello everyone, thank you
Dialogue: 0,0:00:27.77,0:00:30.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for coming to the presentation.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:30.17,0:00:33.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,By the way, I loved the presentation
Dialogue: 0,0:00:33.92,0:00:37.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,made by the delegation of computer science students
Dialogue: 0,0:00:37.20,0:00:39.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who posted in twitter that you
Dialogue: 0,0:00:39.85,0:00:42.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,do not miss the conference of someone
Dialogue: 0,0:00:42.24,0:00:44.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who has a facebook group asking
Dialogue: 0,0:00:44.71,0:00:47.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for him to be Minister of Culture.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:47.28,0:00:49.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I am at the top as you can see my friends,
Dialogue: 0,0:00:49.67,0:00:52.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,my titles never end.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:52.02,0:00:54.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yes, I am basically a lawyer
Dialogue: 0,0:00:54.61,0:00:56.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,specialised in intellectual property and
Dialogue: 0,0:00:56.69,0:01:00.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for ten years more or less I have been
Dialogue: 0,0:01:00.63,0:01:02.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,working in intellectual property
Dialogue: 0,0:01:02.90,0:01:05.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,issues and defending those who the
Dialogue: 0,0:01:05.40,0:01:07.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,content industry has called
Dialogue: 0,0:01:07.07,0:01:09.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,pyrates and we will later see with the
Dialogue: 0,0:01:09.55,0:01:11.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,results of the legal actions if they
Dialogue: 0,0:01:11.44,0:01:13.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,really are or not and also the legislative
Dialogue: 0,0:01:13.25,0:01:17.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,changes that have taken place about it.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:17.05,0:01:19.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In this conference,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:19.72,0:01:23.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we will adress the issue of the
Dialogue: 0,0:01:23.56,0:01:26.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,legal attacks or legal actions
Dialogue: 0,0:01:26.62,0:01:31.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that have been exercised against the exchange
Dialogue: 0,0:01:31.33,0:01:34.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of intellectual works through internet
Dialogue: 0,0:01:34.63,0:01:36.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We will see what is the result of
Dialogue: 0,0:01:36.64,0:01:40.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this legal actions and how it has
Dialogue: 0,0:01:40.52,0:01:42.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,changed the legislation after the
Dialogue: 0,0:01:42.61,0:01:46.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sentence that has had a particular
Dialogue: 0,0:01:46.98,0:01:51.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sign that one part of this strife
Dialogue: 0,0:01:51.38,0:01:53.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,did not like. As in every
Dialogue: 0,0:01:53.89,0:01:57.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,conflict, there are many ways to solve it.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:57.84,0:02:00.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In this issue about intellectual
Dialogue: 0,0:02:00.22,0:02:02.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,property and in order to sum
Dialogue: 0,0:02:02.96,0:02:04.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it up,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:04.16,0:02:06.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I will say that in the issue
Dialogue: 0,0:02:06.86,0:02:10.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of file transfer, there are two sides
Dialogue: 0,0:02:10.78,0:02:13.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in conflict. One says
Dialogue: 0,0:02:13.58,0:02:14.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that this
Dialogue: 0,0:02:14.84,0:02:18.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,can be stop and must be stop
Dialogue: 0,0:02:18.73,0:02:21.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with a legislation that ought to be
Dialogue: 0,0:02:21.90,0:02:26.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the most punitive possible in order to forbid
Dialogue: 0,0:02:26.59,0:02:29.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,certain mass and routine habits
Dialogue: 0,0:02:29.93,0:02:33.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,among citizens. And another
Dialogue: 0,0:02:33.17,0:02:36.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,group that believes that
Dialogue: 0,0:02:36.23,0:02:41.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this apart from being bad, it is
Dialogue: 0,0:02:41.36,0:02:44.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,also impossible to put into practice and
Dialogue: 0,0:02:44.54,0:02:49.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that we are speaking about trying to stop
Dialogue: 0,0:02:49.40,0:02:51.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,something that, technologically, is impossible
Dialogue: 0,0:02:51.44,0:02:54.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to stop. Between this two
Dialogue: 0,0:02:54.87,0:02:58.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,movements, there are lots of persons who
Dialogue: 0,0:02:58.13,0:03:01.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are in between and they take a bit of each position.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:01.00,0:03:02.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Of course there is a wide
Dialogue: 0,0:03:02.48,0:03:04.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,variety of different possible positions,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:04.59,0:03:05.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and, without doubt,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:05.25,0:03:08.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it is the first one, the position that it is being impossed
Dialogue: 0,0:03:08.36,0:03:11.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in all legislations worldwide.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:11.03,0:03:13.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,With a legislation that it is each day
Dialogue: 0,0:03:13.44,0:03:16.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,more restrictive about intellectual
Dialogue: 0,0:03:16.43,0:03:18.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,property rights and growing more and
Dialogue: 0,0:03:18.68,0:03:22.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,more the penalties for certain acts
Dialogue: 0,0:03:22.23,0:03:24.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that are pretended to be illegal.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:24.61,0:03:27.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In the legislation, sanctions are growing
Dialogue: 0,0:03:27.66,0:03:30.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because it is understood that with
Dialogue: 0,0:03:30.47,0:03:33.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the ones there were against routine acts
Dialogue: 0,0:03:33.38,0:03:35.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like transfer of file on internet, it could not
Dialogue: 0,0:03:35.61,0:03:37.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,be stopped. As it was not stopped,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:37.53,0:03:40.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,penalties were increased again and again and
Dialogue: 0,0:03:40.39,0:03:41.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,again as it might be a point where it
Dialogue: 0,0:03:41.97,0:03:46.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,coul be stopped.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:46.93,0:03:52.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The legal attack started in the U.S.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:52.28,0:03:54.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,back in the time of Napster; I do not
Dialogue: 0,0:03:54.52,0:03:57.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,know if you can remember it. It was 1999
Dialogue: 0,0:03:57.37,0:04:00.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and Napster was in vogue, Metallica was the
Dialogue: 0,0:04:00.25,0:04:03.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,first group that pointed out at the
Dialogue: 0,0:04:03.35,0:04:05.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,users as being responsible of the
Dialogue: 0,0:04:05.89,0:04:08.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,possible illegalities and since then, since
Dialogue: 0,0:04:08.43,0:04:13.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,1999 and until now, the legal
Dialogue: 0,0:04:13.78,0:04:15.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,battle has not stopped.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:15.51,0:04:18.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In the U.S. they decided to take legal actions.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:18.62,0:04:20.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,following this
Dialogue: 0,0:04:20.72,0:04:22.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,logic, after finishing with
Dialogue: 0,0:04:22.31,0:04:25.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Napster, they continued by going
Dialogue: 0,0:04:25.14,0:04:28.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,after the individual users and
Dialogue: 0,0:04:28.71,0:04:30.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,inniciated legal actions against thousands of
Dialogue: 0,0:04:30.96,0:04:33.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,users that exchanged works through
Dialogue: 0,0:04:33.05,0:04:34.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the Internet and if this action
Dialogue: 0,0:04:34.85,0:04:38.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,showed something, it was that this social
Dialogue: 0,0:04:38.50,0:04:42.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,reality we are talking about was
Dialogue: 0,0:04:42.05,0:04:44.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,much more heterogeneous than what it
Dialogue: 0,0:04:44.49,0:04:45.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was thought.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:45.42,0:04:47.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was thoguht that this was a youthful
Dialogue: 0,0:04:47.91,0:04:50.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,matter or even a temporary
Dialogue: 0,0:04:50.07,0:04:52.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,situation, but when this legal actions
Dialogue: 0,0:04:52.47,0:04:55.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,started, the demanded made clear that
Dialogue: 0,0:04:55.04,0:04:57.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they were a social mass that,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:57.34,0:04:58.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,although the majority were
Dialogue: 0,0:04:58.74,0:05:00.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,young persons who have grown up with
Dialogue: 0,0:05:00.26,0:05:02.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the new technologies, it reached to
Dialogue: 0,0:05:02.09,0:05:05.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,all social backgrounds, independently
Dialogue: 0,0:05:05.43,0:05:06.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of age or social class.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:06.69,0:05:09.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was exposed for
Dialogue: 0,0:05:09.56,0:05:12.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,example by situation of Brianna Lahara,
Dialogue: 0,0:05:12.43,0:05:14.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a twelve years old girl that was
Dialogue: 0,0:05:14.68,0:05:16.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sue in the U.S. because she
Dialogue: 0,0:05:16.22,0:05:18.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,downloaded music from Internet. It
Dialogue: 0,0:05:18.50,0:05:20.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was curious how they put the
Dialogue: 0,0:05:20.68,0:05:24.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,top for the compensation. In the
Dialogue: 0,0:05:24.80,0:05:25.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,U.S.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:25.75,0:05:28.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the plaintiff was RIAA which represents the
Dialogue: 0,0:05:28.79,0:05:30.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,record industry in America
Dialogue: 0,0:05:30.98,0:05:33.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and what they did was that when
Dialogue: 0,0:05:33.27,0:05:35.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it came to light the scandal that a kid
Dialogue: 0,0:05:35.32,0:05:37.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was being sued by the RIAA, the RIAA
Dialogue: 0,0:05:37.15,0:05:39.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,stood up and announced they were going
Dialogue: 0,0:05:39.67,0:05:41.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to solve it out of cort with
Dialogue: 0,0:05:41.68,0:05:46.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,an agreement, so they asked how much money
Dialogue: 0,0:05:46.14,0:05:48.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,did Brianna LaHara have, as she is a
Dialogue: 0,0:05:48.44,0:05:50.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,twelve years old girl, so they could reach an agreement.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:50.55,0:05:54.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Of course, the parents and the girl replied that
Dialogue: 0,0:05:54.63,0:05:56.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,she had nothing because she was a kid
Dialogue: 0,0:05:56.19,0:05:59.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so they asked if the girl had
Dialogue: 0,0:05:59.16,0:06:00.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,any savings for the university
Dialogue: 0,0:06:00.83,0:06:03.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as you know that in the U.S. it is
Dialogue: 0,0:06:03.20,0:06:07.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,usual. The parents answered affirmatively,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:07.46,0:06:09.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,she had three thousand dollars they
Dialogue: 0,0:06:09.17,0:06:10.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,were depositing in a bank account in
Dialogue: 0,0:06:10.94,0:06:14.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,her name for her university when she
Dialogue: 0,0:06:14.45,0:06:18.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,grows up. So they put three thousands dollars
Dialogue: 0,0:06:18.55,0:06:20.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as the amount they demanded for an
Dialogue: 0,0:06:20.18,0:06:21.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,out of cort agreement. That way,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:21.77,0:06:23.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they sended a clear message,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:23.57,0:06:25.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they were going to ask for all
Dialogue: 0,0:06:25.37,0:06:27.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the money you had witohut any
Dialogue: 0,0:06:27.97,0:06:29.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,distinction.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:29.18,0:06:31.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Related to age, another paradigmatic
Dialogue: 0,0:06:31.19,0:06:32.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,case refering to age, so we
Dialogue: 0,0:06:32.100,0:06:34.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,can see the heterogenic group
Dialogue: 0,0:06:34.51,0:06:36.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we are talking about, is the case of
Dialogue: 0,0:06:36.01,0:06:37.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Gertrude Walton a grandmother tha surprisingly
Dialogue: 0,0:06:37.92,0:06:41.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was sued for downloading rap music, which
Dialogue: 0,0:06:41.19,0:06:44.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is strange. It was a weird situation that was
Dialogue: 0,0:06:44.61,0:06:45.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,shown in the press,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:45.61,0:06:46.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a eighty-three years old grandmother
Dialogue: 0,0:06:46.96,0:06:50.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,downloading rap music, her niece
Dialogue: 0,0:06:50.52,0:06:52.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,claimed that it was all
Dialogue: 0,0:06:52.41,0:06:54.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,absolutely impossible, that her
Dialogue: 0,0:06:54.75,0:06:58.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,grandmother had never downloaded rap music
Dialogue: 0,0:06:58.25,0:07:01.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and she laid on the table two legal
Dialogue: 0,0:07:01.74,0:07:05.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,solid reasonings so that the demand
Dialogue: 0,0:07:05.18,0:07:06.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,ended in nothing. First one was to say
Dialogue: 0,0:07:06.86,0:07:09.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that her grandmother never liked rap music
Dialogue: 0,0:07:09.76,0:07:12.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the second one was that in the moment
Dialogue: 0,0:07:12.54,0:07:14.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of the incident, her grandmother was
Dialogue: 0,0:07:14.86,0:07:18.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,dead.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:18.22,0:07:21.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It meant she had an alibi,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:23.99,0:07:26.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so the legal action
Dialogue: 0,0:07:26.60,0:07:28.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was stopped, although the message left
Dialogue: 0,0:07:28.78,0:07:31.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was clear. Identically, this
Dialogue: 0,0:07:31.54,0:07:33.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,legal actions have spread from
Dialogue: 0,0:07:33.12,0:07:35.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the U.S. to the rest of the globe
Dialogue: 0,0:07:35.47,0:07:38.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,including Spain where legal actions
Dialogue: 0,0:07:38.43,0:07:40.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,have been inicaited against
Dialogue: 0,0:07:40.38,0:07:42.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,absolutely all actors that
Dialogue: 0,0:07:42.06,0:07:43.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,take part in the exchange
Dialogue: 0,0:07:43.64,0:07:45.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of files through Internet:
Dialogue: 0,0:07:45.45,0:07:47.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Users, link pages to this
Dialogue: 0,0:07:47.57,0:07:49.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,files as we will see later and
Dialogue: 0,0:07:49.38,0:07:52.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,even the software developers that
Dialogue: 0,0:07:52.54,0:07:55.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,created the P2P program that allows
Dialogue: 0,0:07:55.24,0:07:57.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the exchange of files, not to
Dialogue: 0,0:07:57.47,0:08:00.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,mention also those who host the
Dialogue: 0,0:08:00.22,0:08:04.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,contents. As you all know the famous direct
Dialogue: 0,0:08:04.20,0:08:07.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,download page of Megaupload that had legal
Dialogue: 0,0:08:07.23,0:08:09.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,actions taken against them. Nonetheless
Dialogue: 0,0:08:09.17,0:08:11.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in Spain there had also been legal
Dialogue: 0,0:08:11.45,0:08:13.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,actions against the big content
Dialogue: 0,0:08:13.25,0:08:15.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,containers and one of them for
Dialogue: 0,0:08:15.04,0:08:18.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,example is Youtube which in the end is
Dialogue: 0,0:08:18.04,0:08:20.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,nothing more than intermediary that what it
Dialogue: 0,0:08:20.19,0:08:22.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,does is to host content uploaded by its
Dialogue: 0,0:08:22.21,0:08:24.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,own users.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:27.41,0:08:29.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Of course, in this issue of
Dialogue: 0,0:08:29.30,0:08:32.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the intellectual property as you see
Dialogue: 0,0:08:32.11,0:08:35.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there are basically two options and
Dialogue: 0,0:08:35.60,0:08:38.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,between them which are
Dialogue: 0,0:08:38.54,0:08:41.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,either we go to the restriction of this
Dialogue: 0,0:08:41.46,0:08:42.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,habits through the legislative way
Dialogue: 0,0:08:42.100,0:08:45.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or we accept that this is a reality
Dialogue: 0,0:08:45.18,0:08:47.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,impossible to stop in practice and
Dialogue: 0,0:08:47.37,0:08:48.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we look for an alternative way
Dialogue: 0,0:08:48.64,0:08:50.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of remuneration with new business
Dialogue: 0,0:08:50.24,0:08:52.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,models adapted to this new
Dialogue: 0,0:08:52.25,0:08:55.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,reality in those two possible
Dialogue: 0,0:08:55.21,0:08:57.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,solutions among many other.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:57.50,0:09:00.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Among them we found that the
Dialogue: 0,0:09:02.20,0:09:04.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,industry, previous to legal
Dialogue: 0,0:09:04.40,0:09:07.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,actions and previous to any legal
Dialogue: 0,0:09:07.24,0:09:09.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,reform, as it always is usually done
Dialogue: 0,0:09:09.21,0:09:11.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and in fact it is called in legal
Dialogue: 0,0:09:11.81,0:09:13.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,doctrine, prelegislative stage. This
Dialogue: 0,0:09:13.76,0:09:15.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,phase has a concrete name in the
Dialogue: 0,0:09:15.66,0:09:18.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,legal doctrine, what it happens always,
Dialogue: 0,0:09:18.03,0:09:21.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when there is a group of power that wants
Dialogue: 0,0:09:21.26,0:09:24.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to change a legislation, what they make is
Dialogue: 0,0:09:24.09,0:09:26.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to present to the legislator a
Dialogue: 0,0:09:26.48,0:09:28.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,reality that recquires of his
Dialogue: 0,0:09:28.73,0:09:32.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,intervention. This is the reason for what there is
Dialogue: 0,0:09:32.77,0:09:34.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,made the
Dialogue: 0,0:09:34.06,0:09:35.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,famous awareness campaigns, those
Dialogue: 0,0:09:35.63,0:09:37.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,awareness campaigns that appear
Dialogue: 0,0:09:37.49,0:09:41.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the cinema, in T.V., in the
Dialogue: 0,0:09:41.70,0:09:44.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,radio or even at schools. What they
Dialogue: 0,0:09:44.92,0:09:47.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,make is to present to the legislator a
Dialogue: 0,0:09:47.26,0:09:49.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,reality, a reality painted in a
Dialogue: 0,0:09:49.83,0:09:51.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,specific way, serious
Dialogue: 0,0:09:51.95,0:09:53.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,enough so their intervention it is
Dialogue: 0,0:09:53.75,0:09:54.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,needed.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:54.90,0:09:59.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Well, in Spain we have passed it and
Dialogue: 0,0:09:59.17,0:10:01.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we are still in it because it is made
Dialogue: 0,0:10:01.38,0:10:04.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,simultaneously or it never ends that
Dialogue: 0,0:10:04.15,0:10:05.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,awareness phase
Dialogue: 0,0:10:07.15,0:10:10.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that started officially in 2005. A year
Dialogue: 0,0:10:12.11,0:10:16.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,before, in 2004, in the 21th of June that
Dialogue: 0,0:10:16.74,0:10:18.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it is the international day for music.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:18.39,0:10:21.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They went to see the fromer president
Dialogue: 0,0:10:21.30,0:10:24.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Zapatero, they were a variety of musicians, that
Dialogue: 0,0:10:24.43,0:10:26.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for me, they are the, probably, less
Dialogue: 0,0:10:26.83,0:10:29.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,representative of the music world, they
Dialogue: 0,0:10:29.36,0:10:31.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are the best selling artists, probably
Dialogue: 0,0:10:31.54,0:10:35.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,those who less represent the music
Dialogue: 0,0:10:35.17,0:10:37.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sector. They went there and
Dialogue: 0,0:10:37.07,0:10:38.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,told Zapatero that he had to do
Dialogue: 0,0:10:38.42,0:10:40.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,something about the downloads issue.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:40.39,0:10:42.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from the perspective of repression,
Dialogue: 0,0:10:42.58,0:10:44.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,meaning, from the perspective of this
Dialogue: 0,0:10:44.50,0:10:47.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,political solution and no other.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:48.81,0:10:50.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Went there for example Alejandro Sanz and
Dialogue: 0,0:10:50.93,0:10:53.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,David Bisbal, who is now sadly
Dialogue: 0,0:10:53.27,0:10:55.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,present due to what he did
Dialogue: 0,0:10:55.58,0:11:00.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to Chenoa. And when Zapatero listened to
Dialogue: 0,0:11:00.96,0:11:04.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the laboral difficulties of David Bisbal and how
Dialogue: 0,0:11:04.01,0:11:05.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he does not have a stone heart, he
Dialogue: 0,0:11:05.79,0:11:09.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,told them that he was going to intervene and in the year
Dialogue: 0,0:11:09.05,0:11:12.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,2005 the antipiracy plan was adopted.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:12.49,0:11:13.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The antipiracy plan, what
Dialogue: 0,0:11:13.98,0:11:15.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it basically did was to
Dialogue: 0,0:11:15.38,0:11:16.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,institutionalised as any possible
Dialogue: 0,0:11:16.100,0:11:21.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,way the repression. In order to
Dialogue: 0,0:11:21.86,0:11:23.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,explain what ought to be done with
Dialogue: 0,0:11:23.86,0:11:25.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the issue of the intellectual property,
Dialogue: 0,0:11:25.45,0:11:27.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,far from other persons like Stallman
Dialogue: 0,0:11:27.48,0:11:29.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or Lessig who have a vision about
Dialogue: 0,0:11:29.97,0:11:31.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,intellectual property
Dialogue: 0,0:11:31.24,0:11:33.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,much more opened, the only possible
Dialogue: 0,0:11:33.37,0:11:35.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,vision and the one to be translated
Dialogue: 0,0:11:35.62,0:11:38.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from all sides was that
Dialogue: 0,0:11:38.43,0:11:40.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,intellectual property must be
Dialogue: 0,0:11:40.35,0:11:42.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,restricted, it means, repress
Dialogue: 0,0:11:42.22,0:11:45.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this behaviors. That solution was
Dialogue: 0,0:11:45.54,0:11:47.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,released in all communication
Dialogue: 0,0:11:47.63,0:11:49.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,media as only possible way.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:49.32,0:11:52.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in fact, the antipiracy commission of the
Dialogue: 0,0:11:52.37,0:11:55.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Culture Ministry, when talks about
Dialogue: 0,0:11:55.02,0:11:56.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the campaigns calling for
Dialogue: 0,0:11:56.78,0:11:58.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,awareness, it says that last
Dialogue: 0,0:11:58.93,0:12:01.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,campaign, when talking about the last,
Dialogue: 0,0:12:01.28,0:12:03.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it said that it should be maintained, this campaign,
Dialogue: 0,0:12:03.42,0:12:06.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for a long time, so it could be
Dialogue: 0,0:12:06.18,0:12:10.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,interiorised by the citizens and that
Dialogue: 0,0:12:10.02,0:12:11.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the plan of the media in the campaign had
Dialogue: 0,0:12:11.68,0:12:14.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as objective, to reach the highest number of
Dialogue: 0,0:12:14.30,0:12:16.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,persons, an addecuated number of times
Dialogue: 0,0:12:16.03,0:12:19.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so that the message can penetrate. It means,
Dialogue: 0,0:12:19.43,0:12:21.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when we are talking in these
Dialogue: 0,0:12:21.62,0:12:24.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,terms, when we talked in these terms,
Dialogue: 0,0:12:24.61,0:12:26.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that the message has to be repeated a
Dialogue: 0,0:12:26.24,0:12:28.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,proper number of times so the message
Dialogue: 0,0:12:28.02,0:12:30.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,penetrates. We are far away from
Dialogue: 0,0:12:30.12,0:12:32.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,awareness campaigns and we are
Dialogue: 0,0:12:32.05,0:12:33.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,under pure propaganda and we are talking
Dialogue: 0,0:12:33.87,0:12:35.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about political propaganda.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:35.41,0:12:38.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We are talking about sending a
Dialogue: 0,0:12:38.16,0:12:41.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,political message about a possibility to solve
Dialogue: 0,0:12:41.28,0:12:43.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the problem from a range of different solutions
Dialogue: 0,0:12:43.15,0:12:46.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and saying that it is the only possible
Dialogue: 0,0:12:46.14,0:12:50.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,solution. This campaigns are made in all
Dialogue: 0,0:12:50.15,0:12:52.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,situations and like two week ago, it
Dialogue: 0,0:12:52.100,0:12:54.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was voted in the culture commission a PNL
Dialogue: 0,0:12:54.80,0:12:58.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where it was propose that these
Dialogue: 0,0:12:58.61,0:13:04.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,campaigns were taken to schools,
Dialogue: 0,0:13:04.45,0:13:07.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,something that has previously ocurred, because
Dialogue: 0,0:13:07.18,0:13:08.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they considered us to be
Dialogue: 0,0:13:08.60,0:13:10.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the lost generation as they call it.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:10.40,0:13:12.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is to say to people that grew up
Dialogue: 0,0:13:12.83,0:13:15.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in a certain way, that has a
Dialogue: 0,0:13:15.10,0:13:17.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,concrete way fo thinking and a
Dialogue: 0,0:13:17.65,0:13:19.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,immovable way to make things and
Dialogue: 0,0:13:19.41,0:13:22.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that what it had to be done was to go to
Dialogue: 0,0:13:22.48,0:13:24.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,kids in schools so that from
Dialogue: 0,0:13:24.55,0:13:26.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the beginning
Dialogue: 0,0:13:26.09,0:13:28.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they think this certain way from
Dialogue: 0,0:13:28.28,0:13:31.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the schools. In the Commission of
Dialogue: 0,0:13:31.24,0:13:33.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Culture of the
Dialogue: 0,0:13:33.58,0:13:36.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Congress, it was voted a PNL where it
Dialogue: 0,0:13:36.06,0:13:38.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,talked about taking this awareness
Dialogue: 0,0:13:38.33,0:13:40.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,campaigns to schools and it was
Dialogue: 0,0:13:40.14,0:13:44.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,voted favorably by the groups with
Dialogue: 0,0:13:44.19,0:13:46.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the abstention
Dialogue: 0,0:13:46.36,0:13:49.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for me indefensible of Podemos that
Dialogue: 0,0:13:49.89,0:13:51.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,voted 'No' in the
Dialogue: 0,0:13:51.76,0:13:54.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,pass legislature, but this campaign
Dialogue: 0,0:13:54.91,0:13:59.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we can see is not only directed to
Dialogue: 0,0:13:59.06,0:14:00.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,children because we have seen
Dialogue: 0,0:14:00.64,0:14:03.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,each Christmas ther is a campaign of the
Dialogue: 0,0:14:03.65,0:14:05.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so called for awareness
Dialogue: 0,0:14:05.38,0:14:07.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,i do not know if you remember, it was
Dialogue: 0,0:14:07.21,0:14:09.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,called "Defend your culture", it had
Dialogue: 0,0:14:09.06,0:14:10.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a slogan specially
Dialogue: 0,0:14:10.61,0:14:15.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,fool, the slogan was "If you are legal, you are
Dialogue: 0,0:14:15.10,0:14:19.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,legal" seriously, I do not know who designed
Dialogue: 0,0:14:19.44,0:14:21.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the campaign. They can get back the money
Dialogue: 0,0:14:21.23,0:14:23.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,yet but it was that and it had
Dialogue: 0,0:14:23.82,0:14:28.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a part of contest, really weird,
Dialogue: 0,0:14:28.35,0:14:31.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where what they had to do was to send
Dialogue: 0,0:14:31.23,0:14:35.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a message saying how did it affect you
Dialogue: 0,0:14:35.12,0:14:37.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the so called piracy and they,
Dialogue: 0,0:14:37.04,0:14:41.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,three experts of culture from the Ministry,
Dialogue: 0,0:14:41.06,0:14:43.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,looked at the messages and they three,
Dialogue: 0,0:14:43.57,0:14:47.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,together, they decided which one was
Dialogue: 0,0:14:47.32,0:14:50.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the best of the month, and published and give
Dialogue: 0,0:14:50.22,0:14:52.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a present that were two tickets for the
Dialogue: 0,0:14:52.99,0:14:55.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Prado Museum, which as a git is not
Dialogue: 0,0:14:55.06,0:14:57.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a big thing, but it could be use for resae or
Dialogue: 0,0:14:57.33,0:14:59.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,whatever.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:59.40,0:15:02.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That was the gift the contest had.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:02.72,0:15:05.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So the people started sending
Dialogue: 0,0:15:05.64,0:15:07.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,their message about how they were affected
Dialogue: 0,0:15:07.26,0:15:09.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,by piracy and as we are hearing
Dialogue: 0,0:15:09.41,0:15:11.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so many strange thing for the issue
Dialogue: 0,0:15:11.97,0:15:15.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of piracy that the poor moderator
Dialogue: 0,0:15:15.60,0:15:17.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they had in there in the
Dialogue: 0,0:15:17.63,0:15:19.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,web page was unabke to distinguish
Dialogue: 0,0:15:19.62,0:15:21.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when they were being serious and
Dialogue: 0,0:15:21.53,0:15:23.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when they were joking because
Dialogue: 0,0:15:23.70,0:15:25.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for example, Antonio Guisasola,
Dialogue: 0,0:15:25.06,0:15:29.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,president of Promusicae, it means, the
Dialogue: 0,0:15:29.09,0:15:31.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we could say
Dialogue: 0,0:15:31.62,0:15:33.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,boss of record industry
Dialogue: 0,0:15:33.22,0:15:37.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,here in Spain, says things like that
Dialogue: 0,0:15:37.16,0:15:39.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,discographies are so
Dialogue: 0,0:15:39.51,0:15:41.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,worried about the internet
Dialogue: 0,0:15:41.68,0:15:43.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,download issue that even the
Dialogue: 0,0:15:43.81,0:15:45.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,street sellers went to Promusica to protest
Dialogue: 0,0:15:45.58,0:15:49.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for internet downloads, It means that
Dialogue: 0,0:15:49.27,0:15:52.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the history of Guisaola seems
Dialogue: 0,0:15:52.75,0:15:54.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,an episode of the "Chanante Hour" is that
Dialogue: 0,0:15:54.82,0:15:57.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,street sellers went to speak with
Dialogue: 0,0:15:57.22,0:15:59.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Guisaola to tell him "I cannot sell
Dialogue: 0,0:15:59.61,0:16:02.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,pirated discs because they are downloaded from
Dialogue: 0,0:16:02.26,0:16:04.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Internet" complaining to Guisaola, it means
Dialogue: 0,0:16:04.24,0:16:07.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if that street seller exists, he is God
Dialogue: 0,0:16:07.80,0:16:09.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I want him as minister now then.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:09.99,0:16:13.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Clearly it cost the moderator
Dialogue: 0,0:16:13.75,0:16:15.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a lot of work to distinguish when
Dialogue: 0,0:16:15.55,0:16:18.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they were serious and when the
Dialogue: 0,0:16:18.22,0:16:19.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,were joking
Dialogue: 0,0:16:19.85,0:16:22.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then it happened that there were
Dialogue: 0,0:16:22.41,0:16:26.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,many jokes and later, "Forocoches" joined
Dialogue: 0,0:16:26.37,0:16:30.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the game and said "I will try to
Dialogue: 0,0:16:30.46,0:16:33.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,send this message, let's see if it
Dialogue: 0,0:16:33.00,0:16:34.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is published"
Dialogue: 0,0:16:34.24,0:16:36.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And clearly, lots did not pass
Dialogue: 0,0:16:36.24,0:16:38.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because they were too obvious and said I will
Dialogue: 0,0:16:38.55,0:16:42.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,try to send this one and wrote in the forum "Let's
Dialogue: 0,0:16:42.83,0:16:45.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,see, I will say what I was told in
Dialogue: 0,0:16:45.87,0:16:47.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,scholl, I enter and downloaded films
Dialogue: 0,0:16:47.90,0:16:50.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I got infected by virus and I had to
Dialogue: 0,0:16:50.57,0:16:53.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,change the CPU because virus
Dialogue: 0,0:16:53.72,0:16:59.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,enter the computer processing unit, do not download
Dialogue: 0,0:16:59.44,0:17:01.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,anything because people put bad things
Dialogue: 0,0:17:01.50,0:17:04.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,inside the files and steak your
Dialogue: 0,0:17:04.29,0:17:09.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,data, your photos, your "rotodos" and everything,
Dialogue: 0,0:17:09.44,0:17:18.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's legal easily' how was going to pass
Dialogue: 0,0:17:18.59,0:17:21.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that with a virus that enter the processing unit,
Dialogue: 0,0:17:21.10,0:17:24.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,well it passed.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:24.48,0:17:26.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was published in the web page as
Dialogue: 0,0:17:26.40,0:17:27.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,hundreds of similar comments but even
Dialogue: 0,0:17:27.81,0:17:31.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,more, the tree experts from
Dialogue: 0,0:17:31.48,0:17:33.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the Culture Ministry thought that this
Dialogue: 0,0:17:33.07,0:17:36.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,comment was the best of the month and they
Dialogue: 0,0:17:36.03,0:17:40.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,give him the prize with the two tickets to
Dialogue: 0,0:17:40.08,0:17:43.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the Prado Museum
Dialogue: 0,0:17:43.33,0:17:45.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When I saw what had been
Dialogue: 0,0:17:45.46,0:17:48.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,chosen as best, I said I would
Dialogue: 0,0:17:48.82,0:17:50.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,find the one that wrote it and
Dialogue: 0,0:17:50.68,0:17:52.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I put the message in Google,
Dialogue: 0,0:17:52.85,0:17:55.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,rapidly "Forocoches" "ha ha ha ha" everyone
Dialogue: 0,0:17:55.36,0:17:58.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,laughing and I said, the have sneak them and
Dialogue: 0,0:17:58.14,0:18:01.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I posted it in my blog and I said, 'lets see'
Dialogue: 0,0:18:01.61,0:18:03.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the message that won was a joke,
Dialogue: 0,0:18:03.55,0:18:06.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I am afraid that this three experts in
Dialogue: 0,0:18:06.31,0:18:08.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,intellectual property are the ones that
Dialogue: 0,0:18:08.59,0:18:09.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are doing our laws and they did not
Dialogue: 0,0:18:09.94,0:18:13.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,realised it, this is alarming. And then
Dialogue: 0,0:18:13.49,0:18:15.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they called me from "Público", from the
Dialogue: 0,0:18:15.44,0:18:17.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,newspaper, and the told me
Dialogue: 0,0:18:17.95,0:18:20.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,' I had some declarations about what
Dialogue: 0,0:18:20.69,0:18:25.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you have uncovered about the general
Dialogue: 0,0:18:25.76,0:18:27.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Director of Policy and Cultural
Dialogue: 0,0:18:27.87,0:18:29.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Industry explaining this situation'
Dialogue: 0,0:18:29.86,0:18:31.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So i got scared a bit, because I may
Dialogue: 0,0:18:31.92,0:18:34.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,have put my foot in it or something and I said 'well
Dialogue: 0,0:18:34.62,0:18:36.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,tell me what are the declarations and
Dialogue: 0,0:18:36.50,0:18:38.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I reply them'. He said that
Dialogue: 0,0:18:38.43,0:18:41.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the declarations were 'The only thing that
Dialogue: 0,0:18:41.21,0:18:43.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,demonstrates that this message has won
Dialogue: 0,0:18:43.02,0:18:47.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is that the system is transparent, there is no
Dialogue: 0,0:18:47.07,0:18:49.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,censorship and that we are dedicated to
Dialogue: 0,0:18:49.72,0:18:55.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,control web pages' 'Ok, yes
Dialogue: 0,0:18:55.26,0:18:59.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it does demonstrate that and also demonstrates
Dialogue: 0,0:18:59.43,0:19:00.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that they have been sneaked until it has
Dialogue: 0,0:19:00.100,0:19:03.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,reached the top, you are telling me that
Dialogue: 0,0:19:03.11,0:19:07.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there are three experts in the ministry of
Dialogue: 0,0:19:07.44,0:19:09.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,culture that thoguht that virus
Dialogue: 0,0:19:09.20,0:19:11.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,get into the processing unit and steal your
Dialogue: 0,0:19:11.00,0:19:14.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"rotodos" then we are lost'
Dialogue: 0,0:19:14.79,0:19:18.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The pont is that when I start reading
Dialogue: 0,0:19:18.04,0:19:21.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what the comission says about the
Dialogue: 0,0:19:21.72,0:19:23.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,campaigns, they explain something that got
Dialogue: 0,0:19:23.93,0:19:25.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,my attention and it is that communication
Dialogue: 0,0:19:25.50,0:19:28.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,media insert this messages in
Dialogue: 0,0:19:28.66,0:19:30.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,their advertisement and the
Dialogue: 0,0:19:30.41,0:19:34.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,majority do it for free,
Dialogue: 0,0:19:34.12,0:19:36.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it means that Telecinco, Antena3, the private
Dialogue: 0,0:19:36.12,0:19:38.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,T.V. channels, take this campaigns
Dialogue: 0,0:19:38.18,0:19:39.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,elaborated by the Ministry of Culture and
Dialogue: 0,0:19:39.88,0:19:43.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they put them in their schedule for free and
Dialogue: 0,0:19:43.17,0:19:47.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it is normal inside the
Dialogue: 0,0:19:47.40,0:19:49.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,enviroment that is created when talking
Dialogue: 0,0:19:49.75,0:19:52.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about new technologies in general, not
Dialogue: 0,0:19:52.62,0:19:53.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,just Internet.
Dialogue: 0,0:19:53.95,0:19:55.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I do not know if you have seen how the
Dialogue: 0,0:19:55.60,0:19:57.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,media treats regularly all
Dialogue: 0,0:19:57.08,0:19:58.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that has somethiong to do with new
Dialogue: 0,0:19:58.60,0:20:00.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,technologies. It is always
Dialogue: 0,0:20:00.24,0:20:02.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with a prism or almost always something
Dialogue: 0,0:20:02.29,0:20:05.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,negative, simply because internet and
Dialogue: 0,0:20:05.78,0:20:07.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,new techonologies are direct
Dialogue: 0,0:20:07.80,0:20:09.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,competitors to the media
Dialogue: 0,0:20:09.76,0:20:11.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like television, press or radio.
Dialogue: 0,0:20:11.35,0:20:17.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I had a time when Google News
Dialogue: 0,0:20:17.43,0:20:18.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,existed,
Dialogue: 0,0:20:18.72,0:20:21.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,before going away from Spain due to the
Dialogue: 0,0:20:21.86,0:20:23.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,AEDE canon that we will talk later if you
Dialogue: 0,0:20:23.49,0:20:26.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,wish to, so I search on Google News
Dialogue: 0,0:20:26.46,0:20:30.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,concrete words, I searched Internet
Dialogue: 0,0:20:30.66,0:20:32.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or web or any other word that
Dialogue: 0,0:20:32.30,0:20:34.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was related to new
Dialogue: 0,0:20:34.86,0:20:37.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,technologies in order to look what results
Dialogue: 0,0:20:37.100,0:20:39.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the media brought back and
Dialogue: 0,0:20:39.61,0:20:41.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the prism that was given to the
Dialogue: 0,0:20:41.69,0:20:46.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,headlines. When I saw that, it
Dialogue: 0,0:20:46.47,0:20:48.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,looked pretty normal that media
Dialogue: 0,0:20:48.28,0:20:50.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,welcomed everything
Dialogue: 0,0:20:50.64,0:20:53.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that criticise their way of doing
Dialogue: 0,0:20:53.24,0:20:57.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,things, that precisely take their
Dialogue: 0,0:20:57.80,0:21:00.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,audience with the headlines I
Dialogue: 0,0:21:00.65,0:21:02.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,found and anyone could do the
Dialogue: 0,0:21:02.85,0:21:06.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,same proof with any other
Dialogue: 0,0:21:06.04,0:21:07.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,searcher. There were headliines like
Dialogue: 0,0:21:07.96,0:21:13.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the followings, "Terror in the web", "Danger
Dialogue: 0,0:21:13.05,0:21:17.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in Internet", "Alcohol and drugs as well
Dialogue: 0,0:21:17.05,0:21:20.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as Internet may suposse a big threat
Dialogue: 0,0:21:20.04,0:21:22.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to the youth",
Dialogue: 0,0:21:22.94,0:21:25.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Internet can cause neuronal
Dialogue: 0,0:21:25.71,0:21:28.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,damages", "surfing the internet there is
Dialogue: 0,0:21:28.87,0:21:32.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,higher risk of adultery",
Dialogue: 0,0:21:32.29,0:21:34.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Jennifer Aniston leaved his boyfriend due
Dialogue: 0,0:21:34.84,0:21:37.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to Internet's fault",
Dialogue: 0,0:21:37.27,0:21:39.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Americans abandon their
Dialogue: 0,0:21:39.63,0:21:44.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,friends and sex for their life on Internet"
Dialogue: 0,0:21:44.26,0:21:46.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"The U.S. look out Twitter for
Dialogue: 0,0:21:46.35,0:21:50.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,its posible use with terrorist objectives",
Dialogue: 0,0:21:50.00,0:21:56.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"A boy is murdered by his gameboy".
Dialogue: 0,0:21:56.50,0:21:58.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This last I had to read it
Dialogue: 0,0:21:58.06,0:22:01.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I could not leave it just with the headline
Dialogue: 0,0:22:01.48,0:22:04.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when I read it, it resulted that the
Dialogue: 0,0:22:04.14,0:22:06.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,kid had a tragic accident when
Dialogue: 0,0:22:06.28,0:22:08.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he went out of the swimming pool and took
Dialogue: 0,0:22:08.69,0:22:11.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the gameboy which its battery was plugged
Dialogue: 0,0:22:11.37,0:22:13.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in and he was electrocuted.
Dialogue: 0,0:22:13.28,0:22:14.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The gameboy itself did not do
Dialogue: 0,0:22:14.81,0:22:19.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,nothing, it was the water and the electricity
Dialogue: 0,0:22:19.07,0:22:21.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,basically what intervened but in here
Dialogue: 0,0:22:21.30,0:22:23.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they decided that it was the gameboy the one
Dialogue: 0,0:22:23.60,0:22:25.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that had murdered him and sended that
Dialogue: 0,0:22:25.75,0:22:27.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,message. the next headline
Dialogue: 0,0:22:27.100,0:22:29.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is clearer and said "Internet kills
Dialogue: 0,0:22:29.48,0:22:33.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you"
Dialogue: 0,0:22:33.100,0:22:36.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In here I did not even read it, it did not
Dialogue: 0,0:22:36.27,0:22:37.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,matter.
Dialogue: 0,0:22:37.75,0:22:39.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Pork flu propagated also through
Dialogue: 0,0:22:39.63,0:22:41.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Internet"
Dialogue: 0,0:22:41.60,0:22:46.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Regular use of Internet generates
Dialogue: 0,0:22:46.42,0:22:49.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,depression and isolation", "Xenophobia
Dialogue: 0,0:22:49.56,0:22:52.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,dances on Internet"
Dialogue: 0,0:22:52.37,0:22:55.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Hitler in Internet", "Cruelty of the
Dialogue: 0,0:22:55.69,0:22:58.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,internet users"
Dialogue: 0,0:22:58.10,0:23:00.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Google opens strongboxes", "Learned to
Dialogue: 0,0:23:00.86,0:23:04.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,kill thanks to Google", "His computer
Dialogue: 0,0:23:04.07,0:23:10.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,can be a zombi", "Internet puts on weight" and "My
Dialogue: 0,0:23:10.89,0:23:13.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,daughter got pregnant and
Dialogue: 0,0:23:13.75,0:23:18.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,its Internet fault" the one of Internet
Dialogue: 0,0:23:18.67,0:23:20.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,puts on weight, I love it because it fits
Dialogue: 0,0:23:20.21,0:23:24.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,inside a patron I have seen before.
Dialogue: 0,0:23:24.20,0:23:26.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There was a study, I cannot know which
Dialogue: 0,0:23:26.81,0:23:28.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,country that gave for another headline, it
Dialogue: 0,0:23:28.66,0:23:30.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,had to do with videogames.
Dialogue: 0,0:23:30.28,0:23:32.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The headline was "Videogames create
Dialogue: 0,0:23:32.72,0:23:35.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,fat and violent kids" and not
Dialogue: 0,0:23:35.51,0:23:38.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,only they put on weight, evenmore, they also
Dialogue: 0,0:23:38.88,0:23:40.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,turned you violent. Of course the
Dialogue: 0,0:23:40.40,0:23:42.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,alarmism is clear, there is nothing that
Dialogue: 0,0:23:42.56,0:23:45.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,frightens more than a gang of angry
Dialogue: 0,0:23:45.98,0:23:49.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,fat guys and when you read that
Dialogue: 0,0:23:49.03,0:23:51.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,study, they justified it
Dialogue: 0,0:23:51.14,0:23:53.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with the typical, that
Dialogue: 0,0:23:53.08,0:23:55.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,videogames create violent kids which
Dialogue: 0,0:23:55.14,0:23:56.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we have read that before in other places
Dialogue: 0,0:23:56.84,0:23:59.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and about the "fats" they justified it because
Dialogue: 0,0:23:59.44,0:24:02.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as they played videogames they did not play any sport
Dialogue: 0,0:24:02.31,0:24:04.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and that is why it fatten. There are other
Dialogue: 0,0:24:04.48,0:24:06.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,activities like lecture and we have
Dialogue: 0,0:24:06.13,0:24:08.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,not read anywhere a headline that said
Dialogue: 0,0:24:08.07,0:24:09.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that reading puts on weight, however
Dialogue: 0,0:24:09.70,0:24:11.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in here it looked great and the put it.
Dialogue: 0,0:24:11.46,0:24:14.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The best one with any doubt, that
Dialogue: 0,0:24:14.14,0:24:16.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,reflects how I think the way
Dialogue: 0,0:24:16.38,0:24:19.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,now clear about how it is talked about
Dialogue: 0,0:24:19.99,0:24:21.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,new technologies in the media
Dialogue: 0,0:24:21.30,0:24:23.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is the famous case of the
Dialogue: 0,0:24:23.12,0:24:25.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,cannibal of Rothenburg. I do not know if
Dialogue: 0,0:24:25.34,0:24:27.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you know it but it is a great case
Dialogue: 0,0:24:27.91,0:24:31.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in order to see how the
Dialogue: 0,0:24:31.02,0:24:33.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,media talks about new
Dialogue: 0,0:24:33.09,0:24:35.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,technologies. Barely you give them
Dialogue: 0,0:24:35.36,0:24:37.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a gap where a new technology
Dialogue: 0,0:24:37.40,0:24:39.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,has participated in any part of a
Dialogue: 0,0:24:39.56,0:24:43.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,story, more or less truculent. The case
Dialogue: 0,0:24:43.27,0:24:46.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of the cannibal of Rothenburg is easy
Dialogue: 0,0:24:46.40,0:24:49.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to explain, it has no mistery. A guy
Dialogue: 0,0:24:49.40,0:24:51.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,wrote in a forum a sentence that said
Dialogue: 0,0:24:51.65,0:24:55.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"I search a good looking man that
Dialogue: 0,0:24:55.35,0:24:58.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,wants to be eaten"
Dialogue: 0,0:24:58.19,0:25:00.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In his languague I guess it sounded better.
Dialogue: 0,0:25:00.50,0:25:02.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That is what was written, a good looking
Dialogue: 0,0:25:02.74,0:25:05.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,man that wanted to be eaten, and an
Dialogue: 0,0:25:05.26,0:25:07.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,engineer that was reading the forum
Dialogue: 0,0:25:07.32,0:25:09.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,read it and said "Look I am
Dialogue: 0,0:25:09.18,0:25:13.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,interested" and contacted the cannibal
Dialogue: 0,0:25:13.50,0:25:17.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of Rothenburg who eated him.
Dialogue: 0,0:25:17.19,0:25:19.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There is no last moment turnaround, it is
Dialogue: 0,0:25:19.28,0:25:22.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,not Shyamalan dear friends. In here it ended how it
Dialogue: 0,0:25:22.97,0:25:25.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,looked like. He ate him.
Dialogue: 0,0:25:25.17,0:25:26.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Then they took the cannibal
Dialogue: 0,0:25:26.71,0:25:29.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of Rothenburg to jail.
Dialogue: 0,0:25:29.20,0:25:30.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What has this to do with new
Dialogue: 0,0:25:30.80,0:25:32.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,technologies? The guy ate him
Dialogue: 0,0:25:32.47,0:25:35.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,analogically on the table. At
Dialogue: 0,0:25:35.08,0:25:39.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,first, nothing. but it was announced in a forum
Dialogue: 0,0:25:39.08,0:25:41.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If it had been announced in "Segunda Mano" or
Dialogue: 0,0:25:41.90,0:25:45.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I don't know through door-to-door,
Dialogue: 0,0:25:45.65,0:25:48.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,surely the way to get in
Dialogue: 0,0:25:48.23,0:25:50.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,touch with the engineer would have
Dialogue: 0,0:25:50.19,0:25:52.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,matter less than the fact that at the
Dialogue: 0,0:25:52.88,0:25:54.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,end, a guy ate another one like if
Dialogue: 0,0:25:54.60,0:25:57.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it was a chocolate bun. However in here
Dialogue: 0,0:25:57.33,0:25:59.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the fact that they got in touch in a forum,
Dialogue: 0,0:25:59.96,0:26:01.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they had the issue linked to
Dialogue: 0,0:26:01.71,0:26:04.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,new technologies somehow and
Dialogue: 0,0:26:04.99,0:26:07.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sooner there were headlines that
Dialogue: 0,0:26:07.39,0:26:09.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,alert us about the problem of
Dialogue: 0,0:26:09.65,0:26:13.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,online cannibals, I do not know
Dialogue: 0,0:26:13.03,0:26:15.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,how you can be an online cannibal or
Dialogue: 0,0:26:15.39,0:26:19.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,online vegan. The point is that the
Dialogue: 0,0:26:19.06,0:26:22.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,headline was "Suspicion that there is a global
Dialogue: 0,0:26:22.34,0:26:24.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,net of cannibals" and it said "The
Dialogue: 0,0:26:24.99,0:26:27.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,police is finfing out little by little
Dialogue: 0,0:26:27.59,0:26:29.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the world of online cannibals and what
Dialogue: 0,0:26:29.48,0:26:32.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they find each time is
Dialogue: 0,0:26:32.68,0:26:34.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,more and more dreadful".
Dialogue: 0,0:26:34.80,0:26:36.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,All this infromation they
Dialogue: 0,0:26:36.37,0:26:37.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,took it from the cannibal of
Dialogue: 0,0:26:37.99,0:26:40.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Rothenburg himself. It seemed that he was
Dialogue: 0,0:26:40.34,0:26:42.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,someone reliable, he could eat whatever but
Dialogue: 0,0:26:42.29,0:26:44.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he has no reason to lie. And with
Dialogue: 0,0:26:44.15,0:26:46.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that, they took out all
Dialogue: 0,0:26:46.55,0:26:48.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that news.
Dialogue: 0,0:26:48.77,0:26:51.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Then all this campaign,
Dialogue: 0,0:26:51.97,0:26:54.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this vision of the new technologies,
Dialogue: 0,0:26:54.59,0:26:57.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this way to solve the conflict that
Dialogue: 0,0:26:57.54,0:26:59.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,comes with the arrival of new
Dialogue: 0,0:26:59.01,0:27:01.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,technologies and basically the fact that
Dialogue: 0,0:27:01.11,0:27:02.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,anyone can have a printer at
Dialogue: 0,0:27:02.78,0:27:04.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,home and do what before only
Dialogue: 0,0:27:04.70,0:27:06.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,could be done by editors with expensive
Dialogue: 0,0:27:06.78,0:27:08.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,machines and now in the first world
Dialogue: 0,0:27:08.84,0:27:11.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this can be made at home of
Dialogue: 0,0:27:11.44,0:27:13.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,practically anyone, this
Dialogue: 0,0:27:13.63,0:27:15.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,conflict that is generated because
Dialogue: 0,0:27:15.31,0:27:16.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,befaure, intellectual property laws
Dialogue: 0,0:27:16.71,0:27:20.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,only affected a small portion
Dialogue: 0,0:27:20.30,0:27:22.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of the population who were the
Dialogue: 0,0:27:22.60,0:27:23.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,editors, the ones that could
Dialogue: 0,0:27:23.92,0:27:25.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,pay for the copy machine.
Dialogue: 0,0:27:25.63,0:27:27.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It resulted that with the arrive of new
Dialogue: 0,0:27:27.95,0:27:29.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,technologies and the broadening of the
Dialogue: 0,0:27:29.76,0:27:31.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,number of persons that are able to copy.
Dialogue: 0,0:27:31.32,0:27:32.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It results that this laws were
Dialogue: 0,0:27:32.96,0:27:35.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,restricting habits that are no
Dialogue: 0,0:27:35.57,0:27:38.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,longer of five or six editors but
Dialogue: 0,0:27:38.23,0:27:42.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,now we are talking about the entire
Dialogue: 0,0:27:42.52,0:27:44.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,population.
Dialogue: 0,0:27:44.22,0:27:47.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We are talking about common and daily
Dialogue: 0,0:27:47.08,0:27:49.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,habit in the society and the way to
Dialogue: 0,0:27:49.05,0:27:52.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,solve it is basically
Dialogue: 0,0:27:52.77,0:27:55.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the two ways that existed in the time
Dialogue: 0,0:27:55.28,0:27:57.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of the cassette.
Dialogue: 0,0:27:57.00,0:28:00.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The legislator saw something and said,
Dialogue: 0,0:28:00.80,0:28:04.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,lets see the copy of the cassette
Dialogue: 0,0:28:04.69,0:28:06.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,tape is ilegal according to the law of
Dialogue: 0,0:28:06.35,0:28:08.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,intellectual property, but the legislator
Dialogue: 0,0:28:08.52,0:28:10.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,reached a conclusion and said, it
Dialogue: 0,0:28:10.09,0:28:12.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is ilegal but it is unstopable and what
Dialogue: 0,0:28:12.89,0:28:18.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is the point of forbiding somehing that not just
Dialogue: 0,0:28:18.56,0:28:20.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I cannot stop but I cannot stop
Dialogue: 0,0:28:20.34,0:28:22.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,even a one percent.
Dialogue: 0,0:28:22.95,0:28:24.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It is not like the example usually
Dialogue: 0,0:28:24.71,0:28:28.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,given of the guy that skips the trafic light.
Dialogue: 0,0:28:28.57,0:28:30.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Everyone has skipped the traffic light
Dialogue: 0,0:28:30.42,0:28:31.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sometime. But with this laws
Dialogue: 0,0:28:31.75,0:28:34.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we can restrict it to a pont where
Dialogue: 0,0:28:34.06,0:28:36.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we could coexist and
Dialogue: 0,0:28:36.38,0:28:37.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then it exists the possibility of
Dialogue: 0,0:28:37.78,0:28:39.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,infraction but we can maintain it
Dialogue: 0,0:28:39.72,0:28:43.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,at a level more or less tolerable of infractions.
Dialogue: 0,0:28:43.15,0:28:45.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,However the issue about the
Dialogue: 0,0:28:45.43,0:28:46.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,cassette tapes is
Dialogue: 0,0:28:46.62,0:28:48.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that the legislator realised something that
Dialogue: 0,0:28:48.31,0:28:50.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he cannot reduce it even a bit
Dialogue: 0,0:28:50.45,0:28:53.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because it happened in the privacy
Dialogue: 0,0:28:53.24,0:28:54.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of home and in the moment it
Dialogue: 0,0:28:54.74,0:28:56.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,happens in the privacy of home, the
Dialogue: 0,0:28:56.21,0:28:58.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,legislator asked himself what could he do if
Dialogue: 0,0:28:58.20,0:29:01.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,technology allows in a clear way
Dialogue: 0,0:29:01.44,0:29:05.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,something that is impossible to forbid and what
Dialogue: 0,0:29:05.76,0:29:07.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he said was: "Well lets
Dialogue: 0,0:29:07.38,0:29:08.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,introduce what is called a
Dialogue: 0,0:29:08.62,0:29:10.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,copyright so it could be legal and
Dialogue: 0,0:29:10.48,0:29:12.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,lets invented an alternative of
Dialogue: 0,0:29:12.30,0:29:15.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,remuneration so those damages that
Dialogue: 0,0:29:15.88,0:29:17.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we cannot stop, at least
Dialogue: 0,0:29:17.48,0:29:20.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,decrease it as far as
Dialogue: 0,0:29:20.13,0:29:22.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,possible and we can
Dialogue: 0,0:29:22.57,0:29:26.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,remunerate the holders of the
Dialogue: 0,0:29:26.05,0:29:28.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,intellectual property rights
Dialogue: 0,0:29:28.03,0:29:30.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and that is when the famosu canon was born.
Dialogue: 0,0:29:30.49,0:29:32.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Canon that worked without
Dialogue: 0,0:29:32.32,0:29:34.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,anybody protesting when it was applied to
Dialogue: 0,0:29:34.55,0:29:37.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the cassette tape because the truth is that
Dialogue: 0,0:29:37.16,0:29:38.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with the exception of some groups like
Dialogue: 0,0:29:38.94,0:29:40.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,journalists, it is used basically
Dialogue: 0,0:29:40.38,0:29:41.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for that.
Dialogue: 0,0:29:41.63,0:29:44.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Then it jumped to the CDs and it was then when
Dialogue: 0,0:29:44.45,0:29:46.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the CDs, the blank page of
Dialogue: 0,0:29:46.18,0:29:47.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,twenty-first century.
Dialogue: 0,0:29:47.84,0:29:49.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It has a canon and then people
Dialogue: 0,0:29:49.79,0:29:51.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,protested because they were putting a
Dialogue: 0,0:29:51.53,0:29:53.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,tax to something that could
Dialogue: 0,0:29:53.05,0:29:56.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,contain almost anything and it was then when
Dialogue: 0,0:29:56.49,0:29:59.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this remunaration system failed.
Dialogue: 0,0:29:59.13,0:30:03.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,About the activities that exist
Dialogue: 0,0:30:03.43,0:30:05.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,nowadays and with the legislation we
Dialogue: 0,0:30:05.16,0:30:08.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,have, what the industry decided,
Dialogue: 0,0:30:08.11,0:30:11.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,later we will speak about what the legislator decided,
Dialogue: 0,0:30:11.04,0:30:12.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and what they decided as a result of the
Dialogue: 0,0:30:12.81,0:30:14.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,legal sentence I am about to comment,
Dialogue: 0,0:30:14.80,0:30:16.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it was to iniciate legal actions.
Dialogue: 0,0:30:16.44,0:30:21.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In a time there was a controversy in Spain
Dialogue: 0,0:30:21.20,0:30:23.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about if downloading music or
Dialogue: 0,0:30:23.52,0:30:25.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,movies on Internet without any authorization
Dialogue: 0,0:30:25.17,0:30:28.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was a crime or not and if it was legal or not.
Dialogue: 0,0:30:28.82,0:30:31.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This are two concepts that seem
Dialogue: 0,0:30:31.51,0:30:33.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the same but they are not, crime
Dialogue: 0,0:30:33.42,0:30:36.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is what is punished in the penal code
Dialogue: 0,0:30:36.04,0:30:38.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,whereas it may not be a crime but
Dialogue: 0,0:30:38.14,0:30:40.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,ilegal, for example a civil
Dialogue: 0,0:30:40.26,0:30:42.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,ilegality or skipping the traffic light.
Dialogue: 0,0:30:42.56,0:30:44.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This are not crimes but an ilegality.
Dialogue: 0,0:30:44.77,0:30:50.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So the debate that was in
Dialogue: 0,0:30:50.39,0:30:53.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,2005 was if the penal code,
Dialogue: 0,0:30:53.39,0:30:55.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the one
Dialogue: 0,0:30:55.11,0:30:57.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that right now has been
Dialogue: 0,0:30:57.92,0:30:59.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,reformed, later we will comment it,
Dialogue: 0,0:30:59.75,0:31:00.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if it considered a crime the
Dialogue: 0,0:31:00.83,0:31:02.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,downloading from Internet.
Dialogue: 0,0:31:02.56,0:31:03.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The content industry argued
Dialogue: 0,0:31:03.84,0:31:05.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that downloads from internet were
Dialogue: 0,0:31:05.16,0:31:07.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,clearly a crime, they based it in
Dialogue: 0,0:31:07.18,0:31:09.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the article 270 of the penal
Dialogue: 0,0:31:09.64,0:31:11.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,code. This article required
Dialogue: 0,0:31:11.24,0:31:15.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a behavior to be with a determined
Dialogue: 0,0:31:15.79,0:31:18.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,subjective aim, it asks two requisits.
Dialogue: 0,0:31:18.62,0:31:21.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Firstly, someone to copy without
Dialogue: 0,0:31:21.10,0:31:23.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,authorization, this is called the
Dialogue: 0,0:31:23.10,0:31:25.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,objective element, and secondly that this
Dialogue: 0,0:31:25.12,0:31:27.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,activity of copying without authorization
Dialogue: 0,0:31:27.48,0:31:29.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,also to be made for profit.
Dialogue: 0,0:31:29.14,0:31:31.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This two requisits have to
Dialogue: 0,0:31:31.54,0:31:33.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,occur in the same action for it
Dialogue: 0,0:31:33.70,0:31:36.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to be of the penal type and so it becomes
Dialogue: 0,0:31:36.70,0:31:38.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a crime against intellectual
Dialogue: 0,0:31:38.56,0:31:40.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,property. What happened was that
Dialogue: 0,0:31:40.58,0:31:42.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,downloads on Internet, what we
Dialogue: 0,0:31:42.52,0:31:44.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,maintained was that it occured the
Dialogue: 0,0:31:44.92,0:31:47.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,objective element, there was a copy without
Dialogue: 0,0:31:47.88,0:31:49.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,authorization but there was no subjective
Dialogue: 0,0:31:49.97,0:31:52.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,element because the copy was not made
Dialogue: 0,0:31:52.52,0:31:53.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for profit as it was a
Dialogue: 0,0:31:53.100,0:31:58.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,free exchange, what the industry
Dialogue: 0,0:31:58.33,0:32:00.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sutained was theat this profit aim
Dialogue: 0,0:32:00.81,0:32:02.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,had to be interpreted in an expansive
Dialogue: 0,0:32:02.58,0:32:04.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,form, it had to be interpreted as
Dialogue: 0,0:32:04.52,0:32:08.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,any benefit, profit or advantage,
Dialogue: 0,0:32:08.07,0:32:10.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that something gives ou in a way that if you
Dialogue: 0,0:32:10.47,0:32:12.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,download a disc, this gives you some kind
Dialogue: 0,0:32:12.07,0:32:13.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of benefit, an advantage that it is
Dialogue: 0,0:32:13.76,0:32:16.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,not money but in a certain way
Dialogue: 0,0:32:16.61,0:32:18.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it benefits you or even the possibility of
Dialogue: 0,0:32:18.78,0:32:22.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,saving the money of buying that disc
Dialogue: 0,0:32:22.01,0:32:23.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if you had decided to buy it and
Dialogue: 0,0:32:23.76,0:32:25.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this way with this
Dialogue: 0,0:32:25.87,0:32:28.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,definition, lets say ambiguous, of
Dialogue: 0,0:32:28.20,0:32:30.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what is a profit aim, they said
Dialogue: 0,0:32:30.08,0:32:31.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that downloads form Internet had
Dialogue: 0,0:32:31.87,0:32:33.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,profit aim.
Dialogue: 0,0:32:33.69,0:32:36.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There was as I said a big discussion that
Dialogue: 0,0:32:36.64,0:32:38.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was intended to be solved in practice with
Dialogue: 0,0:32:38.56,0:32:40.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the intervention of Antonio Guisasola
Dialogue: 0,0:32:40.87,0:32:42.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who went to the media
Dialogue: 0,0:32:42.90,0:32:43.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as president of
Dialogue: 0,0:32:43.80,0:32:46.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Promusicae saying he was going to do something
Dialogue: 0,0:32:46.10,0:32:49.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That was to denounce a spaniard so that
Dialogue: 0,0:32:49.03,0:32:52.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,judges had to determined if that
Dialogue: 0,0:32:52.23,0:32:55.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was a crime or not. What they were
Dialogue: 0,0:32:55.11,0:32:56.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,going to do, he said,
Dialogue: 0,0:32:56.82,0:32:58.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was to denounce someone so
Dialogue: 0,0:32:58.92,0:33:04.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the judges finally pronounce so the
Dialogue: 0,0:33:04.47,0:33:05.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,debate is over.
Dialogue: 0,0:33:05.62,0:33:08.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Well, they did it, I do not know if
Dialogue: 0,0:33:08.24,0:33:10.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,following this reasoning but the case is
Dialogue: 0,0:33:10.12,0:33:12.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that an ordinary man from Santander
Dialogue: 0,0:33:12.63,0:33:14.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,won the lottery and he
Dialogue: 0,0:33:14.81,0:33:17.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was denounce so that a judge
Dialogue: 0,0:33:17.55,0:33:20.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,dictaminated if that was a crime or not.
Dialogue: 0,0:33:20.86,0:33:23.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This ws resoluted in the sentence from the
Dialogue: 0,0:33:23.88,0:33:25.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,penal court number three of
Dialogue: 0,0:33:25.02,0:33:28.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Santander, fourteenth of July, 2006 and what
Dialogue: 0,0:33:28.37,0:33:30.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was said by the signer judge about
Dialogue: 0,0:33:30.64,0:33:32.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the resolution was that the accused
Dialogue: 0,0:33:32.60,0:33:37.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was absolved. the judge said that the
Dialogue: 0,0:33:37.44,0:33:39.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,objective element existed,
Dialogue: 0,0:33:39.82,0:33:41.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the man downloaded without
Dialogue: 0,0:33:41.36,0:33:43.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,authorization but the subjective element did not,
Dialogue: 0,0:33:43.43,0:33:45.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he did not have a profit aim and
Dialogue: 0,0:33:45.57,0:33:48.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,understanding profit aim, said the judge,
Dialogue: 0,0:33:48.83,0:33:52.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in a restrictive way and not expansive
Dialogue: 0,0:33:52.48,0:33:53.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as it was pretended. So as
Dialogue: 0,0:33:53.79,0:33:56.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it occurs one elment but not the
Dialogue: 0,0:33:56.18,0:33:58.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,other, the penal type declines and the
Dialogue: 0,0:33:58.87,0:34:01.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,action is not punishable. It is not an
Dialogue: 0,0:34:01.99,0:34:03.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,action that fits in the penal type
Dialogue: 0,0:34:03.58,0:34:05.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of the 270 art. So, the at the time
Dialogue: 0,0:34:05.99,0:34:10.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,president of Sony was asked in
Dialogue: 0,0:34:10.00,0:34:12.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"La Gaceta de los Negocios" what he thought about
Dialogue: 0,0:34:12.05,0:34:15.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this resolution and he analysed
Dialogue: 0,0:34:15.83,0:34:20.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the resolution calmed and the most
Dialogue: 0,0:34:20.45,0:34:25.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,legally funded posible and he said that someone can be
Dialogue: 0,0:34:25.46,0:34:29.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,judge and an idiot and he encouraged the
Dialogue: 0,0:34:29.39,0:34:31.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,signer judge of the resolution to
Dialogue: 0,0:34:31.03,0:34:33.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,study a bit more and after that
Dialogue: 0,0:34:33.60,0:34:35.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they appealed the sentence but they got
Dialogue: 0,0:34:35.64,0:34:38.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to a Provinc Court that again
Dialogue: 0,0:34:38.77,0:34:41.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,did not study anything and confirmed the
Dialogue: 0,0:34:41.29,0:34:42.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sentence of the first court
Dialogue: 0,0:34:42.89,0:34:46.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Absolving the accused. So they said:
Dialogue: 0,0:34:46.03,0:34:49.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,'Ok, we failed against
Dialogue: 0,0:34:49.20,0:34:50.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the users,
Dialogue: 0,0:34:50.61,0:34:54.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,lets focus on the next actor',
Dialogue: 0,0:34:54.35,0:34:56.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the next actor were the link
Dialogue: 0,0:34:56.38,0:34:58.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,pages, it meant, they tried against
Dialogue: 0,0:34:58.80,0:35:01.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,users, they tried through the penal
Dialogue: 0,0:35:01.64,0:35:03.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,way, they tried also through the civil
Dialogue: 0,0:35:03.36,0:35:04.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,way but they couldn't
Dialogue: 0,0:35:04.100,0:35:06.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,find out the name from the
Dialogue: 0,0:35:06.39,0:35:07.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,IP numbers.
Dialogue: 0,0:35:07.85,0:35:10.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The law of data preservation prevents
Dialogue: 0,0:35:10.01,0:35:11.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that in a process that is not penal to
Dialogue: 0,0:35:11.91,0:35:14.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,revealed this data, so through the civil
Dialogue: 0,0:35:14.34,0:35:16.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,way they reached nothing also and
Dialogue: 0,0:35:16.49,0:35:17.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they said: 'Lets focus on
Dialogue: 0,0:35:17.82,0:35:19.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this link pages, this pages
Dialogue: 0,0:35:19.97,0:35:22.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that without containing the contents,
Dialogue: 0,0:35:22.56,0:35:24.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it means without having the
Dialogue: 0,0:35:24.89,0:35:25.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,files
Dialogue: 0,0:35:25.84,0:35:28.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what they made was to put a link to
Dialogue: 0,0:35:28.41,0:35:30.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the file that was being spread in the
Dialogue: 0,0:35:30.55,0:35:35.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,p2p nets by the users or
Dialogue: 0,0:35:35.16,0:35:37.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,link to a server like Megaupload or
Dialogue: 0,0:35:37.53,0:35:42.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like Rapidshare. This began as a
Dialogue: 0,0:35:42.34,0:35:44.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,big operation, also media,
Dialogue: 0,0:35:44.81,0:35:48.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the year 2006, as you can see coetaneous to
Dialogue: 0,0:35:48.22,0:35:50.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the sentence that absolved this man
Dialogue: 0,0:35:50.31,0:35:53.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,form Snatander and what happened was that
Dialogue: 0,0:35:53.17,0:35:55.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they detained fifteen administrators of
Dialogue: 0,0:35:55.69,0:35:58.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,link web pages. The communication
Dialogue: 0,0:35:58.57,0:35:59.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,media with this issue
Dialogue: 0,0:35:59.72,0:36:01.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,got mad and they
Dialogue: 0,0:36:01.27,0:36:04.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,published the new of this mere
Dialogue: 0,0:36:04.74,0:36:06.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,detentions as if they were guilty
Dialogue: 0,0:36:06.35,0:36:09.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,veredicts in itself. It is something that
Dialogue: 0,0:36:09.90,0:36:12.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,shocked me a lot because you have
Dialogue: 0,0:36:12.28,0:36:14.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,seen in the news that whenever
Dialogue: 0,0:36:14.72,0:36:16.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they talk about any question that
Dialogue: 0,0:36:16.63,0:36:18.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is related to a legal matter, the word
Dialogue: 0,0:36:18.95,0:36:20.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,suspected or alledgley appear
Dialogue: 0,0:36:20.75,0:36:23.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as something normal
Dialogue: 0,0:36:23.48,0:36:25.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In fact sometimes it appears
Dialogue: 0,0:36:25.82,0:36:28.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,excesively
Dialogue: 0,0:36:28.90,0:36:30.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I found a case where a
Dialogue: 0,0:36:30.76,0:36:33.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,newspaper talke about a stockbreeder that
Dialogue: 0,0:36:33.64,0:36:35.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was found dead
Dialogue: 0,0:36:35.05,0:36:39.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,half-buried and the new said "The
Dialogue: 0,0:36:39.03,0:36:42.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,alledge deceased" and alledge it is not
Dialogue: 0,0:36:42.23,0:36:45.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a hal-buried corpse and also it said
Dialogue: 0,0:36:45.22,0:36:48.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that to the alledge deceased they were going too make
Dialogue: 0,0:36:48.70,0:36:50.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the ahtopsy. Check before if you have
Dialogue: 0,0:36:50.77,0:36:56.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,any doubt but the paranoia for a possible
Dialogue: 0,0:36:56.14,0:36:58.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,complaint for slander makes the
Dialogue: 0,0:36:58.49,0:37:00.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,word alledge to be used more than
Dialogue: 0,0:37:00.47,0:37:04.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,often. In the case of the raid
Dialogue: 0,0:37:04.45,0:37:06.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of the year 2006 against link pages
Dialogue: 0,0:37:06.56,0:37:08.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the word alledge disappeared
Dialogue: 0,0:37:08.21,0:37:11.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,absolutely, I remember a
Dialogue: 0,0:37:11.28,0:37:14.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,newspaper's headline that could
Dialogue: 0,0:37:14.44,0:37:18.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,not be clearer and said in the
Dialogue: 0,0:37:18.73,0:37:21.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,headline, it was a leading article tha furthermor
Dialogue: 0,0:37:21.06,0:37:22.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was published in other newspapers
Dialogue: 0,0:37:22.86,0:37:25.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of the same group, it said "Pirates on the net"
Dialogue: 0,0:37:25.52,0:37:29.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and said that the fifteen detainees were part
Dialogue: 0,0:37:29.25,0:37:32.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of the biggest european clandestine
Dialogue: 0,0:37:32.68,0:37:36.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,organization of the peer to peer nets and it said
Dialogue: 0,0:37:36.00,0:37:37.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this was also a gigantic
Dialogue: 0,0:37:37.92,0:37:41.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,cybernetic bootleg peddler and that it was needed
Dialogue: 0,0:37:41.50,0:37:42.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to unmask this perverted vision
Dialogue: 0,0:37:42.98,0:37:45.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of the net in order to avoid it to convert
Dialogue: 0,0:37:45.48,0:37:47.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in an authentic sanctuary of
Dialogue: 0,0:37:47.30,0:37:49.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,cybercriminals. All this, the day
Dialogue: 0,0:37:49.11,0:37:50.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,after to the detentions. It have not
Dialogue: 0,0:37:50.70,0:37:52.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,passed even 24 hours.
Dialogue: 0,0:37:52.39,0:37:56.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Neither have passed 24 hours
Dialogue: 0,0:37:56.09,0:37:57.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when ACAM, the association of
Dialogue: 0,0:37:57.71,0:37:59.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,composers and song writers
Dialogue: 0,0:37:59.38,0:38:01.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,published in their web page a headline
Dialogue: 0,0:38:01.90,0:38:04.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,saying "Demonstrated that exchange peer to peer
Dialogue: 0,0:38:04.68,0:38:06.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is a crime" and beneath appeared a
Dialogue: 0,0:38:06.76,0:38:08.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,list of web pages that
Dialogue: 0,0:38:08.23,0:38:13.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,had a header that said
Dialogue: 0,0:38:13.70,0:38:15.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Web pages
Dialogue: 0,0:38:15.55,0:38:17.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from which there was delinquency" It did not say
Dialogue: 0,0:38:17.47,0:38:19.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,denounced web pages or pages with denounced
Dialogue: 0,0:38:19.17,0:38:21.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,administrators. But it said pages from
Dialogue: 0,0:38:21.41,0:38:24.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which was delinquency as a fact, the judge
Dialogue: 0,0:38:24.27,0:38:26.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,did not even knowhe had a
Dialogue: 0,0:38:26.65,0:38:28.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,proceeding yet, but for ACAM
Dialogue: 0,0:38:28.29,0:38:31.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the sentence was already clear
Dialogue: 0,0:38:31.42,0:38:33.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I guess that with the calm that
Dialogue: 0,0:38:33.30,0:38:34.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,gave them the clause of exemption for any
Dialogue: 0,0:38:34.88,0:38:36.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,responsability
Dialogue: 0,0:38:36.04,0:38:37.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that they had those years in ACAM
Dialogue: 0,0:38:37.70,0:38:39.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They had a little clause, a
Dialogue: 0,0:38:39.21,0:38:40.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,usual disclaimer of web pages
Dialogue: 0,0:38:40.85,0:38:42.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but in here it goes further and
Dialogue: 0,0:38:42.70,0:38:47.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,said 'ACAM is not responsible
Dialogue: 0,0:38:47.22,0:38:48.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for the articles and any
Dialogue: 0,0:38:48.66,0:38:50.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,opinion of third persons published in this
Dialogue: 0,0:38:50.40,0:38:53.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,web page nor of the articles or
Dialogue: 0,0:38:53.37,0:38:55.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,self opinions. This means they were
Dialogue: 0,0:38:55.68,0:38:57.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,completely armoured legally, the
Dialogue: 0,0:38:57.02,0:39:02.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,case is that what ocurred with this cyber
Dialogue: 0,0:39:02.88,0:39:05.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,santuarium of criminals. In the
Dialogue: 0,0:39:05.24,0:39:09.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,first of the cases I had the luck
Dialogue: 0,0:39:09.07,0:39:10.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to participate in it with my
Dialogue: 0,0:39:10.52,0:39:12.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,colleague Javier de la Cueva, the case
Dialogue: 0,0:39:12.77,0:39:14.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Sharemula was the first one to be
Dialogue: 0,0:39:14.66,0:39:16.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,solved, in this case the
Dialogue: 0,0:39:16.68,0:39:18.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,complainents that first denounced were the
Dialogue: 0,0:39:18.77,0:39:22.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,producers of the documentaries of
Dialogue: 0,0:39:22.29,0:39:24.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Feliz Rodriguez de la Fuente, they made
Dialogue: 0,0:39:24.34,0:39:26.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a complaint and the police, that had
Dialogue: 0,0:39:26.09,0:39:27.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,lot of sensitivity with this issues, sent
Dialogue: 0,0:39:27.78,0:39:29.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a letter to the affected by
Dialogue: 0,0:39:29.84,0:39:33.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what was done from Sharemula
Dialogue: 0,0:39:33.66,0:39:36.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and quickly the personal
Dialogue: 0,0:39:36.41,0:39:39.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,prosecution was formed by the SGAE,
Dialogue: 0,0:39:39.10,0:39:41.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Microsof, Promusicae, Egeda, Columbia, Walt
Dialogue: 0,0:39:41.63,0:39:44.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Disney, Twenty Century Fox, Warner,
Dialogue: 0,0:39:44.02,0:39:49.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Lauren Film, Manga Film, Universal, Sony
Dialogue: 0,0:39:49.85,0:39:52.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Metro Goldwyn Mayer, Cristiano Ronaldo, well
Dialogue: 0,0:39:52.11,0:39:55.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they were all in there and the case is that the
Dialogue: 0,0:39:55.89,0:39:57.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,first the personal prosecutors
Dialogue: 0,0:39:57.78,0:40:00.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,made was to ask for precautionary
Dialogue: 0,0:40:00.58,0:40:03.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,measures, unprecedented part, unprecedented part
Dialogue: 0,0:40:03.04,0:40:05.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,meant without hearing the part tha was affected
Dialogue: 0,0:40:05.34,0:40:07.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,by the precautionary measures they were
Dialogue: 0,0:40:07.47,0:40:10.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,asking for, in concrete they ask the precautionary
Dialogue: 0,0:40:10.63,0:40:12.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,measur of shutting down the web page.
Dialogue: 0,0:40:12.76,0:40:14.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The judge that saw the issue in the Instruction
Dialogue: 0,0:40:14.81,0:40:16.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Court here in Madrid said:
Dialogue: 0,0:40:16.64,0:40:19.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Well, I will to listen the petition of precautionary
Dialogue: 0,0:40:19.15,0:40:21.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,measures but
Dialogue: 0,0:40:21.25,0:40:24.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I want to do it with the other part in the
Dialogue: 0,0:40:24.01,0:40:26.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,room to hear it because it is the first
Dialogue: 0,0:40:26.94,0:40:28.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,case not that I found in this
Dialogue: 0,0:40:28.96,0:40:31.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,court but that it is going to be judged in
Dialogue: 0,0:40:31.03,0:40:33.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Spain and so I seem
Dialogue: 0,0:40:33.26,0:40:35.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,interesting to know what has to say
Dialogue: 0,0:40:35.20,0:40:36.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the other part"
Dialogue: 0,0:40:36.56,0:40:38.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So there was a hearing for precautionary
Dialogue: 0,0:40:38.47,0:40:40.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,measures. And what the personal
Dialogue: 0,0:40:40.59,0:40:44.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,prosecution sustained in the hearing
Dialogue: 0,0:40:44.90,0:40:46.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was that in Sharemula there
Dialogue: 0,0:40:46.82,0:40:49.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was being commited a crime because in
Dialogue: 0,0:40:49.97,0:40:52.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this case the profit aim was
Dialogue: 0,0:40:52.60,0:40:53.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,evident.
Dialogue: 0,0:40:53.94,0:40:56.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If in the case against the users there
Dialogue: 0,0:40:56.33,0:40:59.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was no profit aim, in Sharemula there was
Dialogue: 0,0:40:59.42,0:41:01.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,profit aim because there were advertisement
Dialogue: 0,0:41:01.85,0:41:03.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,banners. This advertising gave them some
Dialogue: 0,0:41:03.90,0:41:05.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,money, lots or few, it willbe seen during
Dialogue: 0,0:41:05.73,0:41:08.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the process, but there was money and due to
Dialogue: 0,0:41:08.14,0:41:10.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that economic profit so there is the
Dialogue: 0,0:41:10.39,0:41:12.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,subjective element that was needed with
Dialogue: 0,0:41:12.86,0:41:15.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the users, so in this case there
Dialogue: 0,0:41:15.18,0:41:17.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was a crime, sustained the personal
Dialogue: 0,0:41:17.34,0:41:18.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,prosecution.
Dialogue: 0,0:41:18.37,0:41:22.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What we said was that we did not
Dialogue: 0,0:41:22.47,0:41:24.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,discuss the subjective element of
Dialogue: 0,0:41:24.33,0:41:25.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,profit aim,
Dialogue: 0,0:41:25.92,0:41:28.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in here what was missed was the other
Dialogue: 0,0:41:28.59,0:41:30.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,element, the ojective element, it means,
Dialogue: 0,0:41:30.93,0:41:34.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the copy of intellectual property because
Dialogue: 0,0:41:34.48,0:41:36.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who did it were the users of
Dialogue: 0,0:41:36.43,0:41:38.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the peer to peer nets not the ones
Dialogue: 0,0:41:38.43,0:41:40.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that link. The linkers do not copy
Dialogue: 0,0:41:40.56,0:41:42.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,absolutely nothing, what the do
Dialogue: 0,0:41:42.19,0:41:46.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is to create a group of alphanumerical
Dialogue: 0,0:41:46.04,0:41:47.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,caracters that tells where is
Dialogue: 0,0:41:47.85,0:41:49.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a content without hosting it, with no copy nor
Dialogue: 0,0:41:49.89,0:41:52.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,dissemination. The one copying and disseminating
Dialogue: 0,0:41:52.05,0:41:54.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is the user and the decree that
Dialogue: 0,0:41:54.10,0:42:00.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,desestimated the precautionary measures
Dialogue: 0,0:42:00.53,0:42:03.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,said that effectively the web will not
Dialogue: 0,0:42:03.06,0:42:04.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,be closed simply because what the page
Dialogue: 0,0:42:04.84,0:42:06.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,did in there, did not fitted in the
Dialogue: 0,0:42:06.57,0:42:09.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,penal type of 270 because even having
Dialogue: 0,0:42:09.35,0:42:11.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,profit aim, it was not made with an
Dialogue: 0,0:42:11.34,0:42:14.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,infraction, what Shamerula did not
Dialogue: 0,0:42:14.34,0:42:16.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,do was to copy files just
Dialogue: 0,0:42:16.84,0:42:19.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because they did not have them and
Dialogue: 0,0:42:19.99,0:42:22.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,after the decree, another was dictated
Dialogue: 0,0:42:22.35,0:42:26.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that closed the debate, it was the decree
Dialogue: 0,0:42:26.85,0:42:28.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,declaring the free stay in the Sharemula case
Dialogue: 0,0:42:28.36,0:42:30.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that what made was to say that
Dialogue: 0,0:42:30.74,0:42:33.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as there was no crime, ther will be
Dialogue: 0,0:42:33.15,0:42:35.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,no trial and it was stored,
Dialogue: 0,0:42:35.53,0:42:37.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this equals to an acquital
Dialogue: 0,0:42:37.48,0:42:39.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it was a hard blow in
Dialogue: 0,0:42:39.46,0:42:41.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the waterline of that
Dialogue: 0,0:42:41.23,0:42:47.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,raid of the year 2006 because what
Dialogue: 0,0:42:47.37,0:42:49.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,directly made, not just going to a
Dialogue: 0,0:42:49.100,0:42:52.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,trial and be judged and deel the dock
Dialogue: 0,0:42:52.60,0:42:55.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,punishment but that operation the
Dialogue: 0,0:42:55.38,0:42:56.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,most important in Europe, the media
Dialogue: 0,0:42:56.91,0:42:58.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,said, the ones who pronounced
Dialogue: 0,0:42:58.84,0:43:01.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,before 24 hours
Dialogue: 0,0:43:01.13,0:43:02.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was not even necessary go to trial
Dialogue: 0,0:43:02.85,0:43:04.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because simply the action that
Dialogue: 0,0:43:04.100,0:43:07.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was complaint was not a crime.
Dialogue: 0,0:43:07.55,0:43:09.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We took the resolution, some
Dialogue: 0,0:43:09.54,0:43:11.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,press talk about it and what
Dialogue: 0,0:43:11.92,0:43:14.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the personal prosecution did was to appeal it
Dialogue: 0,0:43:14.41,0:43:17.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,evidently and in the appealing they introduced
Dialogue: 0,0:43:17.10,0:43:21.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a courious element and questionable that was
Dialogue: 0,0:43:21.62,0:43:25.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to say that in Sharemula no
Dialogue: 0,0:43:25.57,0:43:28.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,crime was commited but they
Dialogue: 0,0:43:28.08,0:43:29.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,were helping somehow to
Dialogue: 0,0:43:29.62,0:43:31.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,commit it so they understood that
Dialogue: 0,0:43:31.15,0:43:35.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in a different degree of responsability
Dialogue: 0,0:43:35.61,0:43:38.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it might be participating, cooperating
Dialogue: 0,0:43:38.20,0:43:41.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,inciting a crime, Sharemula was
Dialogue: 0,0:43:41.77,0:43:44.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,cooperating in the assignment of a crime
Dialogue: 0,0:43:44.68,0:43:46.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,commited by a third part that does communicate
Dialogue: 0,0:43:46.74,0:43:49.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,publicly, they said. We argued
Dialogue: 0,0:43:49.86,0:43:51.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that neither because simply there
Dialogue: 0,0:43:51.88,0:43:54.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,cannot be cooperation to a crime if
Dialogue: 0,0:43:54.10,0:43:56.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what is made by a thrid is not a crime.
Dialogue: 0,0:43:56.09,0:43:58.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Sharemula effectively helped
Dialogue: 0,0:43:58.33,0:44:00.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,users to exchange intellectual
Dialogue: 0,0:44:00.51,0:44:02.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,works but as the action of
Dialogue: 0,0:44:02.35,0:44:04.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the users was not criminal,
Dialogue: 0,0:44:04.20,0:44:06.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as we saw with the man from Santander,
Dialogue: 0,0:44:06.38,0:44:08.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there cannot be a crime because in order
Dialogue: 0,0:44:08.29,0:44:09.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to exist needed cooperation with a
Dialogue: 0,0:44:09.86,0:44:11.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,crime, the cooperation must be with
Dialogue: 0,0:44:11.43,0:44:14.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a criminal action and results that
Dialogue: 0,0:44:14.41,0:44:17.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the users action was not.
Dialogue: 0,0:44:17.06,0:44:19.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,For that reason there did not exist
Dialogue: 0,0:44:19.87,0:44:23.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,any degree of penal responsability and
Dialogue: 0,0:44:23.30,0:44:25.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we were looking for a
Dialogue: 0,0:44:25.44,0:44:27.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,resolution. It is not a sentence, is a decree
Dialogue: 0,0:44:27.91,0:44:30.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that was going to make with
Dialogue: 0,0:44:30.44,0:44:33.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,domino effecto what was about to happen
Dialogue: 0,0:44:33.52,0:44:35.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,after and I remember perfectly that no
Dialogue: 0,0:44:35.79,0:44:38.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,journalist called from "El Mundo"
Dialogue: 0,0:44:38.25,0:44:39.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,anywhere and after we had
Dialogue: 0,0:44:39.100,0:44:43.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,been showing off on Internet
Dialogue: 0,0:44:43.86,0:44:46.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for about three or four months, telling
Dialogue: 0,0:44:46.32,0:44:47.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we had won those guys and
Dialogue: 0,0:44:47.96,0:44:51.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we were lawyers that had no
Dialogue: 0,0:44:51.08,0:44:53.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,presentation card yet,
Dialogue: 0,0:44:53.64,0:44:55.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we got phoned from "El Mundo" and said
Dialogue: 0,0:44:55.72,0:44:57.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"You have to declared something
Dialogue: 0,0:44:57.33,0:44:58.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about the issue that the Province
Dialogue: 0,0:44:58.73,0:45:00.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Court has said that you have lost
Dialogue: 0,0:45:00.26,0:45:02.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the Sharemula case" of course I have
Dialogue: 0,0:45:02.81,0:45:05.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,not received absolutely nothing about
Dialogue: 0,0:45:05.29,0:45:08.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that and asked how was that possible if we have not
Dialogue: 0,0:45:08.22,0:45:10.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,been notified and they said that it just happened and
Dialogue: 0,0:45:10.51,0:45:12.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,ask for any declaration and I said "I do not know,
Dialogue: 0,0:45:12.15,0:45:14.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,say I have whined, I have cried or something
Dialogue: 0,0:45:14.58,0:45:16.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like that because I need to read the
Dialogue: 0,0:45:16.59,0:45:18.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,resolution before", they said that I
Dialogue: 0,0:45:18.43,0:45:20.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,would receive it. So I called Javier de
Dialogue: 0,0:45:20.36,0:45:22.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,la Cueva who is from Madrid and
Dialogue: 0,0:45:22.27,0:45:23.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,told him "Javier go to the Province
Dialogue: 0,0:45:23.93,0:45:25.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Court because they say there is
Dialogue: 0,0:45:25.96,0:45:27.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a resolution and look what has been said
Dialogue: 0,0:45:27.83,0:45:31.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because it seems to be negative"
Dialogue: 0,0:45:31.38,0:45:33.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and Javier, who is the most
Dialogue: 0,0:45:33.82,0:45:37.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,calmed guy in Madrid and valium is
Dialogue: 0,0:45:37.90,0:45:40.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,made out from his blood,
Dialogue: 0,0:45:40.76,0:45:44.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,said "Well, I will go tomorrow"
Dialogue: 0,0:45:44.92,0:45:47.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I said "What is that of tomorrow? We have been
Dialogue: 0,0:45:47.06,0:45:48.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,showing off on Internet for over
Dialogue: 0,0:45:48.95,0:45:51.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,three months and this has ended with our
Dialogue: 0,0:45:51.13,0:45:53.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,career, it started with and now ends" and he said
Dialogue: 0,0:45:53.79,0:45:55.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"I am going tomorrow" so I had to wait
Dialogue: 0,0:45:55.92,0:45:57.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to the next day in Seville,
Dialogue: 0,0:45:57.41,0:46:00.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I woke up soon, I gave him time,
Dialogue: 0,0:46:00.37,0:46:02.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I called him at half past ten in the morning and
Dialogue: 0,0:46:02.26,0:46:03.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,asked him "Javier, Have you gone?"
Dialogue: 0,0:46:03.94,0:46:10.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Where?" (he answered) "To the Province Court,
Dialogue: 0,0:46:10.61,0:46:13.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,have you gone?" and the man that is one of the best
Dialogue: 0,0:46:13.32,0:46:15.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,lawyers I know and that calm
Dialogue: 0,0:46:15.50,0:46:17.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is without any doubt one
Dialogue: 0,0:46:17.85,0:46:19.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of his virtues says
Dialogue: 0,0:46:19.52,0:46:22.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Yes, yes I have gone
Dialogue: 0,0:46:22.08,0:46:23.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I saw in the resolution that we won"
Dialogue: 0,0:46:23.73,0:46:27.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I replied "what what? and you do not call me, it
Dialogue: 0,0:46:27.57,0:46:29.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,did not seem something important to you" he answered
Dialogue: 0,0:46:29.80,0:46:32.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Yes we won" I told him "But the man from
Dialogue: 0,0:46:32.54,0:46:33.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"El Mundo" said that in the
Dialogue: 0,0:46:33.92,0:46:36.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,resolution we lost" and he said
Dialogue: 0,0:46:36.01,0:46:38.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Well he got right a 50%, not bad"
Dialogue: 0,0:46:38.21,0:46:41.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The thing is that effectively Sharemula
Dialogue: 0,0:46:41.83,0:46:44.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,ended that way and after that there was
Dialogue: 0,0:46:44.41,0:46:47.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a flood of resolutions in the same sense.
Dialogue: 0,0:46:47.48,0:46:50.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This as expected
Dialogue: 0,0:46:50.58,0:46:53.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,did not felt well in the
Dialogue: 0,0:46:53.15,0:46:56.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,industry and later we will see quickly
Dialogue: 0,0:46:56.14,0:46:59.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what was their reaction, after losing
Dialogue: 0,0:46:59.07,0:47:01.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the penal way and in the civil way
Dialogue: 0,0:47:01.26,0:47:02.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because the also tried against the
Dialogue: 0,0:47:02.100,0:47:04.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,link pages, they focused on the
Dialogue: 0,0:47:04.59,0:47:08.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,developer of the tool
Dialogue: 0,0:47:08.04,0:47:12.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,precisely in Pablo Soto, who
Dialogue: 0,0:47:12.09,0:47:13.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is now city councilman
Dialogue: 0,0:47:13.78,0:47:16.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,here in Madrid, he is a informatic
Dialogue: 0,0:47:16.53,0:47:18.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,developer that what had made was
Dialogue: 0,0:47:18.99,0:47:20.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to create a tool peer to peer that
Dialogue: 0,0:47:20.54,0:47:22.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,allowed the exchange of files,
Dialogue: 0,0:47:22.84,0:47:24.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of files that may have copyright
Dialogue: 0,0:47:24.29,0:47:25.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what may occur
Dialogue: 0,0:47:25.91,0:47:27.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the most of the times and
Dialogue: 0,0:47:27.93,0:47:29.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,not in other occasion. This depends on
Dialogue: 0,0:47:29.69,0:47:32.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the user, and they demanded him, he was demanded
Dialogue: 0,0:47:32.83,0:47:35.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,by Promusica and the four major
Dialogue: 0,0:47:35.90,0:47:38.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,record companies, the biggest record
Dialogue: 0,0:47:38.08,0:47:41.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,companies all over the world and they asked him
Dialogue: 0,0:47:41.28,0:47:44.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,thirteen millon sixty thousand euros as
Dialogue: 0,0:47:44.07,0:47:45.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,compensation for violating
Dialogue: 0,0:47:45.71,0:47:47.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,intellectual property
Dialogue: 0,0:47:47.55,0:47:48.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,by developing a tool that
Dialogue: 0,0:47:48.72,0:47:51.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,have been used by thirds
Dialogue: 0,0:47:51.08,0:47:54.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to violate intellectual property of the
Dialogue: 0,0:47:54.47,0:47:55.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,plaintiff
Dialogue: 0,0:47:55.84,0:48:01.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this case had a great volume
Dialogue: 0,0:48:01.70,0:48:03.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of paper but in reality the question
Dialogue: 0,0:48:03.95,0:48:05.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that was made was simple
Dialogue: 0,0:48:05.75,0:48:08.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the question asked to the judge under
Dialogue: 0,0:48:08.14,0:48:09.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the nine qualifieds that accompanied the
Dialogue: 0,0:48:09.90,0:48:11.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,complaint was simply 'Does the
Dialogue: 0,0:48:11.49,0:48:13.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Intellectual Property Law forbids the
Dialogue: 0,0:48:13.98,0:48:18.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,informatic developers to create a
Dialogue: 0,0:48:18.15,0:48:20.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,tool that allows a third
Dialogue: 0,0:48:20.12,0:48:24.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to violate intellectual property?'
Dialogue: 0,0:48:24.16,0:48:26.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,A law like that
Dialogue: 0,0:48:26.05,0:48:28.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,would have make Gutember not to invent the
Dialogue: 0,0:48:28.78,0:48:30.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,printing press
Dialogue: 0,0:48:30.44,0:48:32.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The question is in our law, this is
Dialogue: 0,0:48:32.11,0:48:34.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,disposable and the answer was not in
Dialogue: 0,0:48:34.95,0:48:37.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the Intellectual Property Law
Dialogue: 0,0:48:37.99,0:48:39.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The only forbidden thing was the
Dialogue: 0,0:48:39.97,0:48:43.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,creation of a software that allows
Dialogue: 0,0:48:43.46,0:48:45.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to unprotect works with a
Dialogue: 0,0:48:45.54,0:48:49.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,specific anticopy system, a
Dialogue: 0,0:48:49.03,0:48:52.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,DRM or whatever, but it did not forbid
Dialogue: 0,0:48:52.59,0:48:54.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the creation of any other
Dialogue: 0,0:48:54.84,0:48:56.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,technology, not even when this
Dialogue: 0,0:48:56.46,0:48:58.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,technology may be used by thirds to
Dialogue: 0,0:48:58.35,0:49:00.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,violate intellectual property rights.
Dialogue: 0,0:49:00.84,0:49:05.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The trial was extremely long, it ended
Dialogue: 0,0:49:05.16,0:49:09.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,animously with Pablo Soto during that
Dialogue: 0,0:49:09.29,0:49:12.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,time, It was a big dock punishment
Dialogue: 0,0:49:12.54,0:49:15.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with the sword of Damocles of
Dialogue: 0,0:49:15.67,0:49:17.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,those 13 millions 60 thousand euros upon his
Dialogue: 0,0:49:17.91,0:49:22.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,head and when the trial occured,
Dialogue: 0,0:49:22.02,0:49:23.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so you can see how does it moves this
Dialogue: 0,0:49:23.74,0:49:24.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,question.
Dialogue: 0,0:49:24.85,0:49:26.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I remember perfectly it was a trial
Dialogue: 0,0:49:26.74,0:49:28.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,dividied in three days of five
Dialogue: 0,0:49:28.31,0:49:32.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,hours each day, for three non consecutive
Dialogue: 0,0:49:32.98,0:49:35.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,days, there were two consecutive days and
Dialogue: 0,0:49:35.04,0:49:37.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the third day there was one between the
Dialogue: 0,0:49:37.26,0:49:42.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,secon daay. What happened was that
Dialogue: 0,0:49:42.29,0:49:45.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,by casualty from the U.S. it was
Dialogue: 0,0:49:45.85,0:49:49.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sended the message that Spain was one
Dialogue: 0,0:49:49.34,0:49:51.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of the biggest pirates countries that existed
Dialogue: 0,0:49:51.83,0:49:54.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the world, right in the secon day of the
Dialogue: 0,0:49:54.98,0:49:58.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Soto trial, the spanish media sum
Dialogue: 0,0:49:58.81,0:50:02.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the calculation they had in front of them
Dialogue: 0,0:50:02.30,0:50:05.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of two plus two and they got four, what
Dialogue: 0,0:50:05.41,0:50:08.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they made was to say that Spain was the
Dialogue: 0,0:50:08.09,0:50:10.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,biggest pirate country in the world according to
Dialogue: 0,0:50:10.34,0:50:13.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the U.S. and today Pablo Soto is judged for
Dialogue: 0,0:50:13.52,0:50:15.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,creating a peer to peer net and they told
Dialogue: 0,0:50:15.39,0:50:17.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that in the same new and the judge who
Dialogue: 0,0:50:17.43,0:50:19.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,reads newspapers, reads this
Dialogue: 0,0:50:19.89,0:50:21.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,question, in the trial it has its
Dialogue: 0,0:50:21.94,0:50:23.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,weight because judges in the end are
Dialogue: 0,0:50:23.87,0:50:25.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,humans too, with their subjetivities
Dialogue: 0,0:50:25.61,0:50:28.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,etc., etc.
Dialogue: 0,0:50:28.15,0:50:31.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The point is the judge who was an old
Dialogue: 0,0:50:31.44,0:50:33.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,man, I was in this case also with
Dialogue: 0,0:50:33.88,0:50:35.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Javier de la Cueva and my colleague
Dialogue: 0,0:50:35.60,0:50:37.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Jose Ignacio Aguilar from Seville and I told to
Dialogue: 0,0:50:37.91,0:50:40.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Javier "Watch how the judge
Dialogue: 0,0:50:40.72,0:50:42.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with the old he is, he is going to
Dialogue: 0,0:50:42.85,0:50:45.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,retire and he is not going to dictate
Dialogue: 0,0:50:45.57,0:50:47.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,any sentence and we have to
Dialogue: 0,0:50:47.20,0:50:50.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,repeat the trial" and Javier, the calmest
Dialogue: 0,0:50:50.51,0:50:52.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,man on earth, said "Nah, he is
Dialogue: 0,0:50:52.89,0:50:54.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,not retiring and if the
Dialogue: 0,0:50:54.25,0:50:55.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,trial is repeaed I will go
Dialogue: 0,0:50:55.58,0:50:58.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,gladly" It is a delight, for me, if something
Dialogue: 0,0:50:58.72,0:51:00.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,really happened and Javier de la Cueva
Dialogue: 0,0:51:00.30,0:51:02.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is your lawyer and sayid "Well look that
Dialogue: 0,0:51:02.57,0:51:06.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this guy retires, I saw him really
Dialogue: 0,0:51:06.06,0:51:07.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,old, he is weak" and him "He
Dialogue: 0,0:51:07.17,0:51:09.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is not retiring and if he retires we
Dialogue: 0,0:51:09.06,0:51:11.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,do this again and we doi it again as good,
Dialogue: 0,0:51:11.28,0:51:15.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,nothing is going to happened". He retired, he did and
Dialogue: 0,0:51:15.16,0:51:19.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the law of civil indictment says the
Dialogue: 0,0:51:19.47,0:51:22.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sentence has to be done by the judge
Dialogue: 0,0:51:22.55,0:51:25.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that was in the hearing and the judge
Dialogue: 0,0:51:25.24,0:51:26.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,retired so there is a new one
Dialogue: 0,0:51:26.84,0:51:29.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and we had to repeat the hearing
Dialogue: 0,0:51:29.100,0:51:32.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,no part wanted to
Dialogue: 0,0:51:32.05,0:51:35.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,repeat it because it was a waste of money
Dialogue: 0,0:51:35.36,0:51:37.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and a tremendous effort, what we
Dialogue: 0,0:51:37.52,0:51:41.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,did was go to the court and in front of
Dialogue: 0,0:51:41.68,0:51:43.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the new judge, we signed an
Dialogue: 0,0:51:43.03,0:51:44.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,act, all the lawyers, saying that
Dialogue: 0,0:51:44.63,0:51:47.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we all agreed on not to repeat the hearing
Dialogue: 0,0:51:47.22,0:51:49.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as it had been
Dialogue: 0,0:51:49.28,0:51:50.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,recorden on video, as law oblies to, so
Dialogue: 0,0:51:50.81,0:51:53.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the new judge watch the hearing in the video and
Dialogue: 0,0:51:53.01,0:51:54.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,illustrate himseld with the partial
Dialogue: 0,0:51:54.90,0:51:57.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,verdict and dictate sentence with what
Dialogue: 0,0:51:57.85,0:52:00.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it is in the video with no need
Dialogue: 0,0:52:00.04,0:52:02.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to repeat it in fron of him, he could
Dialogue: 0,0:52:02.52,0:52:04.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,watch it on video and all the
Dialogue: 0,0:52:04.17,0:52:05.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,lawyers of all sides signed the
Dialogue: 0,0:52:05.61,0:52:08.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,act telling that we all agreed.
Dialogue: 0,0:52:08.91,0:52:11.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The case is that the new judge dictated
Dialogue: 0,0:52:11.91,0:52:14.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sentence rejecting the demand against
Dialogue: 0,0:52:14.19,0:52:18.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Pablo Soto and saying that technology
Dialogue: 0,0:52:18.07,0:52:20.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,peer to peer is not forbidden by the
Dialogue: 0,0:52:20.63,0:52:22.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,law of intellectual property, that itt
Dialogue: 0,0:52:22.29,0:52:24.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,only forbids a specific technology and
Dialogue: 0,0:52:24.32,0:52:26.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in this case it was obvious it was not,
Dialogue: 0,0:52:26.80,0:52:28.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there was also a debate about the
Dialogue: 0,0:52:28.36,0:52:29.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,unloyal competence that was also
Dialogue: 0,0:52:29.89,0:52:32.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,rejected, it was appealed.
Dialogue: 0,0:52:32.11,0:52:35.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was appealed to the Province
Dialogue: 0,0:52:35.19,0:52:38.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Court of Madrid and surprisingly
Dialogue: 0,0:52:38.10,0:52:39.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it was the first allegation, the first
Dialogue: 0,0:52:39.99,0:52:42.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,one of the new lawyer office
Dialogue: 0,0:52:42.56,0:52:44.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because the hired a new one was
Dialogue: 0,0:52:44.85,0:52:47.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to ask the nulity of the sentence because
Dialogue: 0,0:52:47.98,0:52:50.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it was dictated but not
Dialogue: 0,0:52:50.85,0:52:54.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,by the judge who witness the hearing and
Dialogue: 0,0:52:54.27,0:52:57.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of course we have signed an act
Dialogue: 0,0:52:57.25,0:52:59.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where we said we agreed
Dialogue: 0,0:52:59.11,0:53:00.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with that, all lawyers and
Dialogue: 0,0:53:00.39,0:53:02.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,said the contrary part surely
Dialogue: 0,0:53:02.35,0:53:05.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the demanded would told us that
Dialogue: 0,0:53:05.47,0:53:08.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we signed an act saying we agreed
Dialogue: 0,0:53:08.45,0:53:12.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with the new judge being
Dialogue: 0,0:53:12.16,0:53:15.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the one dictating the sentence and
Dialogue: 0,0:53:15.06,0:53:17.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,look you took it from my mouth, I was going
Dialogue: 0,0:53:17.43,0:53:18.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to say it.
Dialogue: 0,0:53:18.91,0:53:22.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Just that, but we thought he was going
Dialogue: 0,0:53:22.04,0:53:24.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to study the case much better and then
Dialogue: 0,0:53:24.34,0:53:25.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they asked for nulity of the sentence
Dialogue: 0,0:53:25.98,0:53:28.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because the new judge did not studied
Dialogue: 0,0:53:28.17,0:53:30.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the bulky decrees enough
Dialogue: 0,0:53:30.16,0:53:32.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to give the the reason, it was a complete
Dialogue: 0,0:53:32.02,0:53:34.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,win win.
Dialogue: 0,0:53:34.89,0:53:37.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We did not repeat the hearing if the
Dialogue: 0,0:53:37.30,0:53:40.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sentence was negative, we as for nulity and
Dialogue: 0,0:53:40.18,0:53:42.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if its positive, everything is wonderful.
Dialogue: 0,0:53:42.73,0:53:44.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The point is that this wen to the Province
Dialogue: 0,0:53:44.88,0:53:46.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Court of Madrid, rejected nulity
Dialogue: 0,0:53:46.18,0:53:48.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,claiming that nulity cannot be an
Dialogue: 0,0:53:48.97,0:53:50.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,ace up yur sleeve to use it
Dialogue: 0,0:53:50.61,0:53:52.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when it suits you and rejected
Dialogue: 0,0:53:52.62,0:53:57.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,also the subsidiary request of
Dialogue: 0,0:53:57.67,0:53:59.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,revoking the sentence making the
Dialogue: 0,0:53:59.29,0:54:01.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sentence of Pablo Soto to be resolutive.
Dialogue: 0,0:54:01.54,0:54:04.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is the judge-made law panorama that
Dialogue: 0,0:54:04.02,0:54:07.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,has been in Spain against the
Dialogue: 0,0:54:07.31,0:54:08.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,users, against link pages,
Dialogue: 0,0:54:08.94,0:54:10.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,against developers of
Dialogue: 0,0:54:10.25,0:54:12.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,technologies that may eventually
Dialogue: 0,0:54:12.38,0:54:13.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,be used to violate intellectual
Dialogue: 0,0:54:13.96,0:54:16.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,property rights. As you can see all
Dialogue: 0,0:54:16.72,0:54:20.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the panorama is negative for the industry,
Dialogue: 0,0:54:20.54,0:54:23.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but this last just a bit, because it is then
Dialogue: 0,0:54:23.70,0:54:27.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when enters the legislative reform and the
Dialogue: 0,0:54:27.10,0:54:29.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,legislative reform for me that I have been
Dialogue: 0,0:54:29.21,0:54:35.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in some of the cases that had to
Dialogue: 0,0:54:35.20,0:54:38.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,be with it, it lacks putting the
Dialogue: 0,0:54:38.39,0:54:42.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,name, meaning it is clear how it is cover
Dialogue: 0,0:54:42.14,0:54:45.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a specific hole for a specific case
Dialogue: 0,0:54:45.25,0:54:47.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that los a specific part.
Dialogue: 0,0:54:47.00,0:54:50.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The Law Sinde,
Dialogue: 0,0:54:50.69,0:54:54.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that provision, which is actually
Dialogue: 0,0:54:54.58,0:54:56.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a series of reforms in the Intellectual
Dialogue: 0,0:54:56.26,0:54:57.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Property Law, and the Information
Dialogue: 0,0:54:57.89,0:54:59.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Society Service Act, was simply to
Dialogue: 0,0:54:59.96,0:55:02.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,change the arbitrators of the conflict,
Dialogue: 0,0:55:02.61,0:55:05.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what it did is that what before
Dialogue: 0,0:55:05.30,0:55:09.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the judges ruled in civil courts,
Dialogue: 0,0:55:09.57,0:55:11.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we will also be able to do so
Dialogue: 0,0:55:11.30,0:55:13.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,through administrative channels,
Dialogue: 0,0:55:13.30,0:55:15.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,open an administrative route for the industry,
Dialogue: 0,0:55:15.17,0:55:17.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to go directly to the Ministry of Culture,
Dialogue: 0,0:55:17.79,0:55:20.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and to be the Ministry of Culture to decide,
Dialogue: 0,0:55:20.88,0:55:23.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if this website,
Dialogue: 0,0:55:23.37,0:55:25.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,As the links pages infringes or not
Dialogue: 0,0:55:25.40,0:55:27.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the intellectual property,
Dialogue: 0,0:55:27.18,0:55:28.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that is what the Sinde law did,
Dialogue: 0,0:55:28.59,0:55:30.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,did not change the rules of the game,
Dialogue: 0,0:55:30.80,0:55:32.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but if it changed the referee,
Dialogue: 0,0:55:32.28,0:55:33.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in fact what happened when
Dialogue: 0,0:55:33.64,0:55:34.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,changing the referee,
Dialogue: 0,0:55:34.76,0:55:36.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is that the Sinde commission
Dialogue: 0,0:55:36.19,0:55:37.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,began to dictate judgments,
Dialogue: 0,0:55:37.63,0:55:40.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which were contrary to those pronounced
Dialogue: 0,0:55:40.18,0:55:42.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,by the judges only a few months before,
Dialogue: 0,0:55:42.55,0:55:44.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and said just the opposite,
Dialogue: 0,0:55:44.57,0:55:46.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that what the judges said,
Dialogue: 0,0:55:46.11,0:55:47.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,interpreting identical rules,
Dialogue: 0,0:55:47.51,0:55:49.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and besides changing the referee,
Dialogue: 0,0:55:49.90,0:55:53.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,soon after, a year, or a year and a half later
Dialogue: 0,0:55:53.32,0:55:55.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,changed the rules of the game,
Dialogue: 0,0:55:55.11,0:55:57.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,reformed the Intellectual Property Law,
Dialogue: 0,0:55:57.23,0:55:59.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and reformed the Criminal Code,
Dialogue: 0,0:55:59.25,0:56:00.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and this reform
Dialogue: 0,0:56:00.62,0:56:02.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you will now understand perfectly,
Dialogue: 0,0:56:02.29,0:56:04.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,without the need for great praise,
Dialogue: 0,0:56:04.67,0:56:06.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because we have seen how
Dialogue: 0,0:56:06.28,0:56:08.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,your journey judicial,
Dialogue: 0,0:56:08.13,0:56:10.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and you are going to fit each of the reforms,
Dialogue: 0,0:56:10.59,0:56:12.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in your specific case
Dialogue: 0,0:56:12.78,0:56:16.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what they do with the Penal Code is,
Dialogue: 0,0:56:16.10,0:56:19.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they maintain article 270, which says:
Dialogue: 0,0:56:19.96,0:56:23.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,public communication and profit motive,
Dialogue: 0,0:56:23.66,0:56:26.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and introduce you a new paragraph that says:
Dialogue: 0,0:56:26.55,0:56:31.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The same penalty as in the previous paragraph
Dialogue: 0,0:56:31.61,0:56:34.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,will impose on those who maintain ordered
Dialogue: 0,0:56:34.61,0:56:36.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and classified listings of links to works
Dialogue: 0,0:56:36.77,0:56:41.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that are being disseminated without authorization,
Dialogue: 0,0:56:41.82,0:56:49.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when it has a direct or indirect profit,
Dialogue: 0,0:56:49.09,0:56:50.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to enter advertising
Dialogue: 0,0:56:50.29,0:56:52.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,obviously in this Panorama,
Dialogue: 0,0:56:52.49,0:56:55.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this paragraph is expressly dedicated
Dialogue: 0,0:56:55.64,0:56:59.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to the pages of links.
Dialogue: 0,0:56:59.22,0:57:01.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,As for the Soto case, what happened?
Dialogue: 0,0:57:01.90,0:57:03.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What happened was that
Dialogue: 0,0:57:03.39,0:57:06.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the cooperation to the infringement,
Dialogue: 0,0:57:06.68,0:57:08.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that term that was coined in 1999
Dialogue: 0,0:57:08.36,0:57:09.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,United States in the with Napster,
Dialogue: 0,0:57:09.75,0:57:11.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,did not exist in Spain,
Dialogue: 0,0:57:11.37,0:57:12.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and so that it existed,
Dialogue: 0,0:57:12.100,0:57:15.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,included in article 138 which already existed,
Dialogue: 0,0:57:15.87,0:57:18.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,adding a new paragraph stating that:
Dialogue: 0,0:57:18.37,0:57:22.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it will be responsible for the infringement,
Dialogue: 0,0:57:22.25,0:57:23.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,not infringing,
Dialogue: 0,0:57:23.62,0:57:26.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but responsible for the infringement
Dialogue: 0,0:57:26.26,0:57:29.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of a third party, that in some way cooperated,
Dialogue: 0,0:57:29.81,0:57:33.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,induces or promotes the infringement,
Dialogue: 0,0:57:33.53,0:57:36.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as is a field wide enough
Dialogue: 0,0:57:36.40,0:57:38.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to fill legal uncertainty
Dialogue: 0,0:57:38.71,0:57:43.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with people like Pablo Soto,
Dialogue: 0,0:57:43.71,0:57:47.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or like any of you who are software developers,
Dialogue: 0,0:57:47.70,0:57:49.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that is to say what he did,
Dialogue: 0,0:57:49.59,0:57:53.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or does because this article 138 is in force,
Dialogue: 0,0:57:53.18,0:57:56.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is that People like Pablo Soto,
Dialogue: 0,0:57:56.45,0:57:57.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who develop a technology
Dialogue: 0,0:57:57.85,0:58:01.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that can somehow be used for lawful purposes
Dialogue: 0,0:58:01.52,0:58:03.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and also to infringe intellectual property,
Dialogue: 0,0:58:03.23,0:58:05.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are inhibited from that development,
Dialogue: 0,0:58:05.54,0:58:07.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because the article 138
Dialogue: 0,0:58:07.91,0:58:09.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,introduced a new paragraph,
Dialogue: 0,0:58:09.60,0:58:12.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,ethereal enough to frighten To anyone,
Dialogue: 0,0:58:12.99,0:58:14.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because it speaks of terms
Dialogue: 0,0:58:14.72,0:58:18.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that are more specific to criminal law,
Dialogue: 0,0:58:18.33,0:58:20.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,cooperate to induce or promote
Dialogue: 0,0:58:20.64,0:58:23.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the infringement of a third party.
Dialogue: 0,0:58:23.49,0:58:25.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,With this article in hand
Dialogue: 0,0:58:25.10,0:58:27.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if Pablo Soto in his day,
Dialogue: 0,0:58:27.24,0:58:28.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,had come to tell me,
Dialogue: 0,0:58:28.93,0:58:31.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I plan to develop a peer to peer tool,
Dialogue: 0,0:58:31.84,0:58:34.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I would have told him to be very careful,
Dialogue: 0,0:58:34.100,0:58:37.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because the article 138
Dialogue: 0,0:58:37.18,0:58:39.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,introduced, is basically a
Dialogue: 0,0:58:39.04,0:58:41.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,translated version in Spanish,
Dialogue: 0,0:58:41.08,0:58:43.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what the US courts said
Dialogue: 0,0:58:43.56,0:58:45.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when they coined the term
Dialogue: 0,0:58:45.71,0:58:47.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"cooperation to infringement"
Dialogue: 0,0:58:47.52,0:58:49.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to end Napster, which is just
Dialogue: 0,0:58:49.34,0:58:51.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the term that was not in Spain,
Dialogue: 0,0:58:51.34,0:58:54.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and which saved Pablo Soto,
Dialogue: 0,0:58:54.54,0:58:56.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but was not saved because
Dialogue: 0,0:58:56.11,0:58:57.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there was a gap in the Law,
Dialogue: 0,0:58:57.74,0:59:00.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,nor because there was a gap now filled,
Dialogue: 0,0:59:00.35,0:59:02.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but because what was,
Dialogue: 0,0:59:02.17,0:59:03.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was a conscious decision of the legislator,
Dialogue: 0,0:59:03.98,0:59:05.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who is clear that software developers
Dialogue: 0,0:59:05.88,0:59:08.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are also creators of intellectual works,
Dialogue: 0,0:59:08.40,0:59:10.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and that need protection,
Dialogue: 0,0:59:10.76,0:59:12.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,not the opposite, not a wall,
Dialogue: 0,0:59:12.61,0:59:14.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and what was not a gap,
Dialogue: 0,0:59:14.80,0:59:17.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there was a decision of the legislator
Dialogue: 0,0:59:17.44,0:59:19.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that said: "If we restrict
Dialogue: 0,0:59:19.63,0:59:22.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,further software developers,
Dialogue: 0,0:59:22.70,0:59:27.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,create cracks to unprotect
Dialogue: 0,0:59:27.11,0:59:29.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a certain work with anti copy systems,
Dialogue: 0,0:59:29.32,0:59:31.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it turns out To these creators
Dialogue: 0,0:59:31.40,0:59:33.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of intellectual works,
Dialogue: 0,0:59:33.23,0:59:36.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we are putting a lock
Dialogue: 0,0:59:36.45,0:59:40.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that will keep them from creating,
Dialogue: 0,0:59:40.39,0:59:41.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for fear that their technology
Dialogue: 0,0:59:41.45,0:59:42.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,will be used for illicit purposes.
Dialogue: 0,0:59:42.68,0:59:44.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In this struggle between
Dialogue: 0,0:59:44.18,0:59:46.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,creators of intellectual works,
Dialogue: 0,0:59:46.20,0:59:48.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,has won by defeat, the industry
Dialogue: 0,0:59:48.44,0:59:52.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of non-functional works,
Dialogue: 0,0:59:52.41,0:59:56.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,compared to that of functional works,
Dialogue: 0,0:59:56.14,0:59:58.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and that is the legislative landscape
Dialogue: 0,0:59:58.32,1:00:01.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with which we find now,
Dialogue: 0,1:00:01.24,1:00:03.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,despite all the exchange
Dialogue: 0,1:00:03.38,1:00:06.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of works Intellectuals continue their course,
Dialogue: 0,1:00:06.36,1:00:08.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,whether in peer-to-peer networks,
Dialogue: 0,1:00:08.99,1:00:11.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because as you know
Dialogue: 0,1:00:11.16,1:00:12.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there are peer to peer networks,
Dialogue: 0,1:00:12.99,1:00:14.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which are created with free software,
Dialogue: 0,1:00:14.54,1:00:16.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with exposed guts,
Dialogue: 0,1:00:16.04,1:00:18.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and that do not have a specific head,
Dialogue: 0,1:00:18.78,1:00:20.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but thousands of heads,
Dialogue: 0,1:00:20.70,1:00:22.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that collaboratively create their code,
Dialogue: 0,1:00:22.49,1:00:24.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and that are simply impossible to stop,
Dialogue: 0,1:00:24.39,1:00:27.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and if they could stop,
Dialogue: 0,1:00:27.27,1:00:28.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we know that you can not,
Dialogue: 0,1:00:28.94,1:00:31.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,therefore a Pop Corn Time is born,
Dialogue: 0,1:00:31.57,1:00:33.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or is born any other way
Dialogue: 0,1:00:33.71,1:00:36.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of exchanging intellectual works,
Dialogue: 0,1:00:36.13,1:00:37.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which can not be stopped ,
Dialogue: 0,1:00:37.82,1:00:40.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this is known in the Ministry of Culture,
Dialogue: 0,1:00:40.48,1:00:42.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he fully knew when he was
Dialogue: 0,1:00:42.56,1:00:44.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Minister of Culture Wert,
Dialogue: 0,1:00:44.36,1:00:47.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he said that to be able to be
Dialogue: 0,1:00:47.06,1:00:50.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,updated to new technologies,
Dialogue: 0,1:00:50.43,1:00:52.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to be able to stop this, so that
Dialogue: 0,1:00:52.03,1:00:55.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the law is abreast of new technologies,
Dialogue: 0,1:00:55.09,1:00:56.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that it was necessary to do
Dialogue: 0,1:00:56.77,1:00:58.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,an Intellectual Property Law
Dialogue: 0,1:00:58.07,1:00:59.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,every three months,
Dialogue: 0,1:00:59.72,1:01:07.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think it fails even in that idea,
Dialogue: 0,1:01:07.30,1:01:10.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,since it is said that
Dialogue: 0,1:01:10.16,1:01:12.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the Intellectual Property Law
Dialogue: 0,1:01:12.64,1:01:14.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,will be changed in a specific sense,
Dialogue: 0,1:01:14.56,1:01:17.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,until the law is effectively publishes
Dialogue: 0,1:01:17.70,1:01:19.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and enters into force,
Dialogue: 0,1:01:19.34,1:01:20.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,passes the "vacatio legis",
Dialogue: 0,1:01:20.76,1:01:22.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,have already come different ways of exchanging,
Dialogue: 0,1:01:22.70,1:01:29.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,have jumped that new barrier,
Dialogue: 0,1:01:29.28,1:01:31.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that was very well with the case of Sinde.
Dialogue: 0,1:01:31.12,1:01:34.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When they took out the Sinde Law,
Dialogue: 0,1:01:34.80,1:01:38.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was called to speak at
Dialogue: 0,1:01:38.02,1:01:40.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the San Sebastian Film Festival,
Dialogue: 0,1:01:40.26,1:01:42.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I thought I would talk to
Dialogue: 0,1:01:42.09,1:01:43.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the filmmakers there,
Dialogue: 0,1:01:43.64,1:01:45.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,precisely two things,
Dialogue: 0,1:01:45.00,1:01:48.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,one that I thought the goal they were
Dialogue: 0,1:01:48.22,1:01:50.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,getting was with the hand,
Dialogue: 0,1:01:50.01,1:01:53.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because the judge simply did not change
Dialogue: 0,1:01:53.41,1:01:56.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the rules of the game,
Dialogue: 0,1:01:56.20,1:01:57.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which were still legal,
Dialogue: 0,1:01:57.72,1:01:59.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what they did was break
Dialogue: 0,1:01:59.56,1:02:01.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the separation of powers, and say,
Dialogue: 0,1:02:01.26,1:02:02.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we opened an administrative route,
Dialogue: 0,1:02:02.80,1:02:04.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and we changed the referees of the conflict,
Dialogue: 0,1:02:04.56,1:02:08.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it seemed that they were looking for a short cut,
Dialogue: 0,1:02:08.34,1:02:10.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it seemed that the goal was
Dialogue: 0,1:02:10.12,1:02:12.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,trying to insert with the hand,
Dialogue: 0,1:02:12.24,1:02:15.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but also did not enter the goal,
Dialogue: 0,1:02:15.13,1:02:18.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so it also does not score,
Dialogue: 0,1:02:18.20,1:02:20.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,try to make a goal with the hand,
Dialogue: 0,1:02:20.77,1:02:23.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but neither They got it.
Dialogue: 0,1:02:23.87,1:02:28.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I tried to make a kind of experiment,
Dialogue: 0,1:02:28.67,1:02:30.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the 20 minutes I was there,
Dialogue: 0,1:02:30.04,1:02:31.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with two other colleagues,
Dialogue: 0,1:02:31.41,1:02:32.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Nacho Vigalondo was at the table
Dialogue: 0,1:02:32.94,1:02:35.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and another person, in the 20, 30 minutes
Dialogue: 0,1:02:35.67,1:02:37.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I had to speak,
Dialogue: 0,1:02:37.30,1:02:38.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,precisely the Sinde law,
Dialogue: 0,1:02:38.90,1:02:41.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What I did was an experiment
Dialogue: 0,1:02:41.61,1:02:43.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,called Sinde table,
Dialogue: 0,1:02:43.33,1:02:44.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I put a hashtag on twitter
Dialogue: 0,1:02:44.80,1:02:46.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with the name Sinde table,
Dialogue: 0,1:02:46.65,1:02:48.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I did not want to say
Dialogue: 0,1:02:48.12,1:02:50.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,anything to not ruin the experiment,
Dialogue: 0,1:02:50.27,1:02:52.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to the tweeters who were there,
Dialogue: 0,1:02:52.03,1:02:54.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I just said with the hashtag table Sinde,
Dialogue: 0,1:02:54.91,1:02:57.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to he hour that begins my paper,
Dialogue: 0,1:02:57.23,1:03:01.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I will ask something to talk about
Dialogue: 0,1:03:01.24,1:03:06.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the inability to stop the pages link
Dialogue: 0,1:03:06.28,1:03:09.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with the law Sinde, because the Sinde law,
Dialogue: 0,1:03:09.86,1:03:11.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,boasted of being able to close
Dialogue: 0,1:03:11.41,1:03:14.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a page of links in four months,
Dialogue: 0,1:03:14.07,1:03:16.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then took much more ,
Dialogue: 0,1:03:16.02,1:03:17.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but they said four months,
Dialogue: 0,1:03:17.91,1:03:22.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,well, what we did was, open a page in
Dialogue: 0,1:03:22.91,1:03:25.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Google Docs to create a database,
Dialogue: 0,1:03:25.96,1:03:28.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,page of links, only had a limitation,
Dialogue: 0,1:03:28.56,1:03:31.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they could start to send the links,
Dialogue: 0,1:03:31.36,1:03:33.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from the moment in that I began to speak,
Dialogue: 0,1:03:33.48,1:03:37.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and ended when I finished speaking,
Dialogue: 0,1:03:37.28,1:03:39.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to see how long it takes to make
Dialogue: 0,1:03:39.43,1:03:44.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a page of links to intellectual works,
Dialogue: 0,1:03:44.38,1:03:46.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which are elsewhere,
Dialogue: 0,1:03:46.98,1:03:48.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the time it took to speak,
Dialogue: 0,1:03:48.61,1:03:51.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about the ineffectiveness of a Law,
Dialogue: 0,1:03:51.77,1:03:53.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,after half an hour at the end
Dialogue: 0,1:03:53.71,1:03:55.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of the conference, I told the attendees,
Dialogue: 0,1:03:55.48,1:03:59.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I did an experiment that I did not tell you,
Dialogue: 0,1:03:59.17,1:04:01.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when I started to speak this hashtag,
Dialogue: 0,1:04:01.24,1:04:04.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and this is what has happened,
Dialogue: 0,1:04:04.52,1:04:06.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they created twenty link pages,
Dialogue: 0,1:04:06.33,1:04:10.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they had they open several pages in Google Docs,
Dialogue: 0,1:04:10.35,1:04:12.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because they made a database so extensive,
Dialogue: 0,1:04:12.72,1:04:15.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it did not fit and fell continuously,
Dialogue: 0,1:04:15.08,1:04:17.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so they opened several mirrors,
Dialogue: 0,1:04:17.05,1:04:18.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and created 20 pages of links,
Dialogue: 0,1:04:18.63,1:04:22.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the time it takes a conference on effectiveness,
Dialogue: 0,1:04:22.38,1:04:24.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Or ineffectiveness of the Sinde law,
Dialogue: 0,1:04:24.12,1:04:26.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which was to close them in four months,
Dialogue: 0,1:04:26.28,1:04:28.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,simply explained to the people there,
Dialogue: 0,1:04:28.40,1:04:30.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is that what you want to close
Dialogue: 0,1:04:30.61,1:04:32.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is the index of the encyclopedia,
Dialogue: 0,1:04:32.03,1:04:33.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but the encyclopedia still exists,
Dialogue: 0,1:04:33.84,1:04:35.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and there are very easy ways
Dialogue: 0,1:04:35.61,1:04:37.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to create an index in a matter of minutes.
Dialogue: 0,1:04:37.52,1:04:40.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Of course the director of the festival
Dialogue: 0,1:04:40.57,1:04:44.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was very angry, and I have not gone to
Dialogue: 0,1:04:44.04,1:04:45.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the San Sebastian Film Festival,
Dialogue: 0,1:04:45.43,1:04:46.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I have not been invited anymore,
Dialogue: 0,1:04:46.88,1:04:48.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for whatever reason.
Dialogue: 0,1:04:48.01,1:04:52.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Rebordinos, who is the director
Dialogue: 0,1:04:52.18,1:04:53.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of the San Sebastian Film Festival,
Dialogue: 0,1:04:53.69,1:04:56.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,asked him the same day in "El País",
Dialogue: 0,1:04:56.56,1:04:57.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what did the experiment look like,
Dialogue: 0,1:04:57.85,1:04:59.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because the experiment had a lot of movement,
Dialogue: 0,1:04:59.66,1:05:01.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in fact it was a worldwide trending topic,
Dialogue: 0,1:05:01.71,1:05:05.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,only surpassed by the hashtag of the word vagina
Dialogue: 0,1:05:05.73,1:05:11.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of but in short, was a very worthy second position,
Dialogue: 0,1:05:11.89,1:05:17.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and there was a lot of movement with that question,
Dialogue: 0,1:05:17.30,1:05:19.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the media called all parties asking what happened at
Dialogue: 0,1:05:19.85,1:05:21.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the San Sebastian Film Festival?,
Dialogue: 0,1:05:21.65,1:05:24.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and called Rebordinos was very angry and said:
Dialogue: 0,1:05:24.77,1:05:26.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this gentleman has not been called
Dialogue: 0,1:05:26.88,1:05:28.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,here to mount this,
Dialogue: 0,1:05:28.33,1:05:30.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he has been called to talk about trans-media film,
Dialogue: 0,1:05:30.72,1:05:32.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was surprised because
Dialogue: 0,1:05:32.52,1:05:36.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I do not know what trans-media cinema is,
Dialogue: 0,1:05:36.37,1:05:39.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,everyone knows what I'm talking about, anyway,
Dialogue: 0,1:05:39.12,1:05:40.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I went there only instead of talking,
Dialogue: 0,1:05:40.99,1:05:42.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I tried to prove what I was saying,
Dialogue: 0,1:05:42.41,1:05:45.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and that seemed to go a little too far,
Dialogue: 0,1:05:45.91,1:05:48.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's allowed to give your opinion but not to show it.
Dialogue: 0,1:05:48.40,1:05:51.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Then he became very angry,
Dialogue: 0,1:05:51.94,1:05:55.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and when asked two or three weeks later,
Dialogue: 0,1:05:55.72,1:05:57.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the San Sebastian film festival,
Dialogue: 0,1:05:57.94,1:05:59.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what had been the best and
Dialogue: 0,1:05:59.68,1:06:01.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,worst moment of the festival?
Dialogue: 0,1:06:01.51,1:06:03.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,said: The best had been talking to
Dialogue: 0,1:06:03.99,1:06:06.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Glenn Close of cooking recipes,
Dialogue: 0,1:06:06.21,1:06:08.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who can compete with that,
Dialogue: 0,1:06:08.60,1:06:10.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and what the worst,
Dialogue: 0,1:06:10.94,1:06:12.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,although you can not speak
Dialogue: 0,1:06:12.58,1:06:14.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of one that is the worst,
Dialogue: 0,1:06:14.36,1:06:16.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but that I was the worst moment of
Dialogue: 0,1:06:16.10,1:06:19.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the Film Festival San Sebastian,
Dialogue: 0,1:06:19.64,1:06:21.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but it was quite funny,
Dialogue: 0,1:06:21.64,1:06:24.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and in definite accounts although this would close
Dialogue: 0,1:06:24.72,1:06:26.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the doors of the cinema,
Dialogue: 0,1:06:26.43,1:06:28.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,something was demonstrated,
Dialogue: 0,1:06:28.24,1:06:29.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and put on the mat,
Dialogue: 0,1:06:29.84,1:06:31.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,something that seems interesting,
Dialogue: 0,1:06:31.43,1:06:34.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what is done when a reality is impossible to stop?.
Dialogue: 0,1:06:34.94,1:06:38.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There is an American economist
Dialogue: 0,1:06:38.42,1:06:42.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who said that this download of the internet
Dialogue: 0,1:06:42.10,1:06:43.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was like the Law of Economic Gravity,
Dialogue: 0,1:06:43.96,1:06:46.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he was trying to say that
Dialogue: 0,1:06:46.55,1:06:49.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if you took a pen and released it, the pen fell,
Dialogue: 0,1:06:49.52,1:06:53.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and you can be against that happening,
Dialogue: 0,1:06:53.94,1:06:56.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And that you think it morally
Dialogue: 0,1:06:56.96,1:07:00.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,very reprehensible that that happens,
Dialogue: 0,1:07:00.60,1:07:03.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and make thousands of laws that prohibit it,
Dialogue: 0,1:07:03.18,1:07:05.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and after all those campaigns
Dialogue: 0,1:07:05.65,1:07:07.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,saying how bad it seems to you,
Dialogue: 0,1:07:07.91,1:07:09.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,after making thousands of
Dialogue: 0,1:07:09.66,1:07:11.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,laws that prohibit the fall of the pen,
Dialogue: 0,1:07:11.24,1:07:12.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,someone will release a ball pen
Dialogue: 0,1:07:12.87,1:07:14.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,somewhere and it will fall again,
Dialogue: 0,1:07:14.51,1:07:17.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the guy said that the download of the internet
Dialogue: 0,1:07:17.37,1:07:19.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was like the Law of Gravity,
Dialogue: 0,1:07:19.22,1:07:21.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and that there was little to do,
Dialogue: 0,1:07:21.01,1:07:23.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that what had to be done was to find an alternative,
Dialogue: 0,1:07:23.98,1:07:27.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so that the Creators, being a social benefit,
Dialogue: 0,1:07:27.53,1:07:30.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,continue to create, and have an incentive to create,
Dialogue: 0,1:07:30.36,1:07:32.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and that could only be achieved,
Dialogue: 0,1:07:32.63,1:07:35.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with changes in business models,
Dialogue: 0,1:07:35.32,1:07:37.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and changes also in the remuneration systems
Dialogue: 0,1:07:37.88,1:07:39.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of creators, the guy said,
Dialogue: 0,1:07:39.53,1:07:43.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That in the days where the peer to peer networks
Dialogue: 0,1:07:43.88,1:07:45.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was the most attended,
Dialogue: 0,1:07:45.90,1:07:48.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,said that the content industry,
Dialogue: 0,1:07:48.43,1:07:51.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this was said long before "Spotify",
Dialogue: 0,1:07:51.06,1:07:53.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,long before "Netflix", or long before Filmin,
Dialogue: 0,1:07:53.34,1:07:55.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Said that the content industry had
Dialogue: 0,1:07:55.47,1:07:57.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,something that put them in a
Dialogue: 0,1:07:57.47,1:07:58.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,very special competitive advantage,
Dialogue: 0,1:07:58.95,1:08:00.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,ahead of the "peer to peer" networks,
Dialogue: 0,1:08:00.89,1:08:02.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,those old "peer to peer" networks,
Dialogue: 0,1:08:02.50,1:08:06.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,said: look at the content industry,
Dialogue: 0,1:08:06.38,1:08:08.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they have first the content before anyone else,
Dialogue: 0,1:08:08.63,1:08:15.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and can launch a peer to peer network
Dialogue: 0,1:08:15.73,1:08:18.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,system remunerated for example with advertising,
Dialogue: 0,1:08:18.48,1:08:20.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or with subscription systems,
Dialogue: 0,1:08:20.72,1:08:23.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,such as after Netflix was born,
Dialogue: 0,1:08:23.79,1:08:27.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and many think that gratuitousness is
Dialogue: 0,1:08:27.80,1:08:30.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the only reason it does that a mass of
Dialogue: 0,1:08:30.59,1:08:36.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,potential clients will go from one place to another,
Dialogue: 0,1:08:36.91,1:08:39.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but it turns out not, that we can present
Dialogue: 0,1:08:39.46,1:08:41.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,several systems, one that is free,
Dialogue: 0,1:08:41.96,1:08:45.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,others "freemiun", other "premium",
Dialogue: 0,1:08:45.02,1:08:48.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and we can get those guys to get us have gone,
Dialogue: 0,1:08:48.18,1:08:50.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,instead of chasing them with a stick to go back
Dialogue: 0,1:08:50.44,1:08:52.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to our stores,
Dialogue: 0,1:08:52.46,1:08:56.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to attract them with an alternative proposal,
Dialogue: 0,1:08:56.69,1:08:59.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to seduce them in some way,
Dialogue: 0,1:08:59.50,1:09:02.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,said that peer to peer networks have some
Dialogue: 0,1:09:02.06,1:09:04.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,negative issues, has the positive that is the price,
Dialogue: 0,1:09:04.40,1:09:08.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which is the fact that you can,
Dialogue: 0,1:09:08.21,1:09:09.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,download it without paying for what you download,
Dialogue: 0,1:09:09.83,1:09:11.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but it has some negatives,
Dialogue: 0,1:09:11.10,1:09:12.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which a professional service like ours could remove,
Dialogue: 0,1:09:12.98,1:09:14.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,have queue waiting,
Dialogue: 0,1:09:14.56,1:09:17.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we are talking about the times of "Emule"
Dialogue: 0,1:09:17.12,1:09:21.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,has the possibility to infect you with viruses,
Dialogue: 0,1:09:21.06,1:09:23.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you have the possibility of fake you,
Dialogue: 0,1:09:23.47,1:09:26.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the famous "fake" as a classic example is:
Dialogue: 0,1:09:26.92,1:09:31.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you download a classic movie,
Dialogue: 0,1:09:31.12,1:09:35.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and in the end is a porn movie, or vice versa,
Dialogue: 0,1:09:35.85,1:09:38.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you can also , And that is almost worse,
Dialogue: 0,1:09:38.54,1:09:44.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that you download a porn movie, and be a classic,
Dialogue: 0,1:09:44.46,1:09:46.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,anyway, the fact is that it is not what
Dialogue: 0,1:09:46.62,1:09:48.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you were looking for, or that you download
Dialogue: 0,1:09:48.50,1:09:52.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Lies and Fat", and "Lies and Fat"
Dialogue: 0,1:09:52.11,1:09:54.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In short that some of this happens,
Dialogue: 0,1:09:54.65,1:09:56.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and said we can go here,
Dialogue: 0,1:09:56.24,1:09:59.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then came out "Spotify",
Dialogue: 0,1:09:59.94,1:10:02.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then came out "Netflix",
Dialogue: 0,1:10:02.73,1:10:04.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it has been proven,
Dialogue: 0,1:10:04.73,1:10:06.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that if there is something that downloads
Dialogue: 0,1:10:06.92,1:10:10.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they are not the proper names of Sinde, Wert, Lasalle,
Dialogue: 0,1:10:10.88,1:10:13.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but rather are their own names similar to
Dialogue: 0,1:10:13.75,1:10:16.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Netflix", "Filmim", "Spotify",
Dialogue: 0,1:10:16.43,1:10:18.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it was also said that in France,
Dialogue: 0,1:10:18.71,1:10:20.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a system was proposed in the past,
Dialogue: 0,1:10:20.24,1:10:22.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,basically following the thought,
Dialogue: 0,1:10:22.85,1:10:24.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that what is taken advantage of by all,
Dialogue: 0,1:10:24.90,1:10:26.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,must be held by all,
Dialogue: 0,1:10:26.80,1:10:29.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and spoke of the optional general license,
Dialogue: 0,1:10:29.56,1:10:32.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,an amount you pay is a form of tax,
Dialogue: 0,1:10:32.41,1:10:35.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which differs from the famous "Canon" to CDs,
Dialogue: 0,1:10:35.64,1:10:38.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the fact of the word Optional,
Dialogue: 0,1:10:38.32,1:10:40.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we speak of general license as an option,
Dialogue: 0,1:10:40.82,1:10:42.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that is to say it was paid by
Dialogue: 0,1:10:42.46,1:10:44.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,those who actually used it,
Dialogue: 0,1:10:44.43,1:10:46.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or would use the network for this,
Dialogue: 0,1:10:46.09,1:10:47.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and paid it not to the "Sgae"
Dialogue: 0,1:10:47.76,1:10:49.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to distribute it among its partners,
Dialogue: 0,1:10:49.24,1:10:51.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,nor to the other seven entities Of management,
Dialogue: 0,1:10:51.14,1:10:52.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but paid it to the state that distributed
Dialogue: 0,1:10:52.71,1:10:56.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it among the authors,
Dialogue: 0,1:10:56.10,1:10:58.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who identified themselves with certain watermarks,
Dialogue: 0,1:10:58.69,1:11:00.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in a system similar to that proposed to
Dialogue: 0,1:11:00.88,1:11:02.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Richard Stallman and William Fisher,
Dialogue: 0,1:11:02.79,1:11:04.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,both were cited in the book "Free Culture"
Dialogue: 0,1:11:04.80,1:11:07.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,by Lawrence Lessig,
Dialogue: 0,1:11:07.67,1:11:10.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when we talked about this impasse,
Dialogue: 0,1:11:10.00,1:11:11.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where it seemed that we had arrived,
Dialogue: 0,1:11:11.64,1:11:14.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and which had been advanced Lessig said,
Dialogue: 0,1:11:14.50,1:11:18.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to the conflict several years in advance,
Dialogue: 0,1:11:18.86,1:11:21.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,had seen as a visionary that this was not
Dialogue: 0,1:11:21.56,1:11:23.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,going to reach no part,
Dialogue: 0,1:11:23.26,1:11:26.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,long before we saw that the alley was dead-end,
Dialogue: 0,1:11:26.70,1:11:28.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and already proposed an exit in these terms,
Dialogue: 0,1:11:28.78,1:11:31.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and in France was not only rejected,
Dialogue: 0,1:11:31.50,1:11:34.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but what they did was to impose the Hadopi law,
Dialogue: 0,1:11:34.24,1:11:37.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which was to cut the connection
Dialogue: 0,1:11:37.05,1:11:40.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of those who connected to peer to peer networks.
Dialogue: 0,1:11:40.15,1:11:41.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In the United States,
Dialogue: 0,1:11:41.82,1:11:45.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they proposed not only to cut the connection
Dialogue: 0,1:11:45.28,1:11:47.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of those who connect to peer to peer networks,
Dialogue: 0,1:11:47.15,1:11:49.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but to destroy by remote control,
Dialogue: 0,1:11:49.02,1:11:51.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the computer from which they connect
Dialogue: 0,1:11:51.98,1:11:53.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to peer to peer networks.
Dialogue: 0,1:11:53.56,1:11:56.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,US Senator Orrin Hatch who was also a composer
Dialogue: 0,1:11:56.59,1:12:01.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and had the poor head lost, and rejected it,
Dialogue: 0,1:12:01.17,1:12:03.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but although they rejected this
Dialogue: 0,1:12:03.17,1:12:05.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the United States,
Dialogue: 0,1:12:05.19,1:12:08.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the level of punishment to try to stop
Dialogue: 0,1:12:08.24,1:12:10.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what was unstoppable rose so much,
Dialogue: 0,1:12:10.77,1:12:12.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that the fine that can fall
Dialogue: 0,1:12:12.61,1:12:14.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for downloading two songs,
Dialogue: 0,1:12:14.07,1:12:17.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is greater than the maximum fine
Dialogue: 0,1:12:17.30,1:12:22.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that can fall to a doctor,
Dialogue: 0,1:12:22.00,1:12:24.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who mistakenly amputates a good leg,
Dialogue: 0,1:12:24.33,1:12:26.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,why? because
Dialogue: 0,1:12:26.20,1:12:28.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,precisely because we spoke at the beginning,
Dialogue: 0,1:12:28.34,1:12:29.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because they found that neither
Dialogue: 0,1:12:29.95,1:12:30.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with the demands a Brianna LaHara,
Dialogue: 0,1:12:30.99,1:12:32.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,nor with the demands of Gertrude Walton,
Dialogue: 0,1:12:32.86,1:12:34.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,were able to stop this reality,
Dialogue: 0,1:12:34.56,1:12:36.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and they continued raising the level of punishment,
Dialogue: 0,1:12:36.22,1:12:38.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,until reaching these bizarre limits,
Dialogue: 0,1:12:38.38,1:12:40.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then came out "Netflix",
Dialogue: 0,1:12:40.00,1:12:42.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then came out "Spotify",
Dialogue: 0,1:12:42.09,1:12:43.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because it seems that in some Countries
Dialogue: 0,1:12:43.96,1:12:46.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is already coming to the conclusion
Dialogue: 0,1:12:46.00,1:12:47.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that no matter how much we change the laws,
Dialogue: 0,1:12:47.78,1:12:49.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,somewhere there will be someone
Dialogue: 0,1:12:49.75,1:12:51.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who will pick up the pen,
Dialogue: 0,1:12:51.36,1:12:53.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it will jump and it will fall.
Dialogue: 0,1:12:53.68,1:12:55.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is all friends thanks.
Dialogue: 0,1:12:56.66,1:13:03.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Hecho por : MIGUEL POMBOZA GUADALUPE