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Dialogue: 0,0:00:00.00,0:00:08.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,{\i1}preroll music{\i0}
Dialogue: 0,0:00:09.60,0:00:13.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Herald: Our next speaker is Tarek Loubani.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:13.19,0:00:14.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He is an emergency physician,
Dialogue: 0,0:00:14.73,0:00:17.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,working in the Gaza Strip and in Canada
Dialogue: 0,0:00:17.84,0:00:20.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and he is developing medical hardware devices.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:20.55,0:00:25.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And he is going to tell us about the \NPalestinian use of free hardware and software.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:25.81,0:00:29.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So enjoy and give a warm welcome to Tarek.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:29.52,0:00:32.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,{\i1}applause{\i0}
Dialogue: 0,0:00:32.52,0:00:39.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Tarek: ... (missing Audio)
Dialogue: 0,0:00:39.44,0:00:44.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Thank you to CCC for inviting me \Nto give this talk
Dialogue: 0,0:00:44.06,0:00:48.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and to you for being here tonight.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:48.43,0:00:54.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I want to start with just some very basic information\Nhere about myself.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:54.24,0:00:58.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If we can get the video feed up.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:05.27,0:01:08.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,OK, so there we go.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:08.87,0:01:14.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If you want to get a hold of me, you can find me,\Nfind this project on github,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:14.44,0:01:18.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you can find our team on openmed at freenode,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:18.53,0:01:21.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or you can always get a hold of me by e-mail,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:21.29,0:01:25.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,hopefully one of the easiest e-mails\Nyou'll ever have to remember.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:25.91,0:01:29.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I'll bring that information up at the end.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:29.52,0:01:33.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I want to start then with a story:
Dialogue: 0,0:01:33.73,0:01:39.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is another story, because you heard so many\Nabout refugees.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:39.50,0:01:42.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But this story is a personal one,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:42.41,0:01:44.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because it is my story as a refugee.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:44.93,0:01:51.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And about the time, that my father reminded me\Nof who I was.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:51.52,0:01:55.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He put this card in front of me, \Nwhen I was 8 years old.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:55.57,0:01:59.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This card was literally the only thing,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:59.43,0:02:05.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that atested to my existence as a human being \Nfor the first 12 years of my life.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:05.35,0:02:11.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It says: The director general affirms that\NTarek Loubani is a palestinian.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:11.75,0:02:16.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And as proof, I have given him \Nthis identity card.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:16.78,0:02:23.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Not a lot to work, not a lot to own,\Nnot a lot to do anything. That was it.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:23.25,0:02:25.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so I sat in front of my father,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:25.66,0:02:29.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I just got, I think it was a C\Non some meaningless subject
Dialogue: 0,0:02:29.61,0:02:33.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as an 8 year old. Who cares?
Dialogue: 0,0:02:33.78,0:02:37.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But he cared. He put that paper in front of me\Nand he said:
Dialogue: 0,0:02:37.99,0:02:43.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Son, this paper, it doesn't prove \Nthat you're somebody,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:43.42,0:02:46.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it proves, that you're nobody,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:46.71,0:02:49.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that you're nothing.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:49.25,0:02:54.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And there we were, living in Kuwait with \Na nice appartment that we had rented
Dialogue: 0,0:02:54.79,0:02:57.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,A and a car outfront. And he said:\N
Dialogue: 0,0:02:57.23,0:03:01.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,all of these things didn't belong to us and\Ncould be taken in a moment.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:01.66,0:03:06.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He had only one caveat to this nihilism.\NHe said:
Dialogue: 0,0:03:06.59,0:03:11.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There is only one thing you have, one thing\Nthat the wolfs can never take away from you.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:11.96,0:03:15.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,One thing, that you can never be dispossessed of.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:15.84,0:03:20.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And that's what you know, \Nthat's the information in your head.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:20.05,0:03:24.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's what's up in here.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:24.38,0:03:29.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so was thesapokalyptic warning would \Nresult in me and my family minus my father
Dialogue: 0,0:03:29.61,0:03:32.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because he was trapped in Kuwait at the time\Ndriving through this:
Dialogue: 0,0:03:32.72,0:03:35.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The highway of death \Nas it would later be called.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:35.86,0:03:40.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,With my mother crying tears for weeks\Nwhile she got us out,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:40.11,0:03:45.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,her 4 children until we finally made our way \Nthrough, I think it was 4 or 5 different countries
Dialogue: 0,0:03:45.97,0:03:49.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and into Canada.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:49.02,0:03:55.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Mine is a microcosmic lesson of the lesson,\Nthat all Palestinian were given.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:55.51,0:04:00.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because all Palestinian have been dispossessed\Nat some point or will be.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:00.94,0:04:06.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What do you think the parents of these \Nchildren will tell them
Dialogue: 0,0:04:06.01,0:04:09.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about who they are and what they possess?
Dialogue: 0,0:04:09.06,0:04:14.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What do you think is the meaning of their homes\Nand physical possessions?
Dialogue: 0,0:04:14.37,0:04:19.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What is it that they own or that they have?
Dialogue: 0,0:04:19.51,0:04:23.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Their parents will tell them, \Nwhat my parents told me:
Dialogue: 0,0:04:23.38,0:04:32.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You have nothing and you are nothing.\NOnly what's in here.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:32.37,0:04:43.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so, if they are in their predatory drones\Nthen we must be the prey.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:43.05,0:04:48.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And that means, that we'll always live in the \Nthird world a different life
Dialogue: 0,0:04:48.25,0:04:52.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from the life the people live in the developed \Nworld.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:52.26,0:05:00.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You have to be on one of the two sides of\Nthat predator drone of that advanced missle,
Dialogue: 0,0:05:00.06,0:05:07.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of that technology, that litigation of \Ntreaty.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:07.43,0:05:13.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And we had seen the light of the first world\Nfrom that those refugees camps.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:13.87,0:05:19.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We saw it. And what we wanted was not\Nthe Playstation 4s and the iPhones
Dialogue: 0,0:05:19.28,0:05:22.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,though yes, of course. Great stuff.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:22.76,0:05:25.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What we wanted was the CT scanners
Dialogue: 0,0:05:25.26,0:05:29.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the hospitals that were outfitted so that\Nyou could feel like you cold go in them
Dialogue: 0,0:05:29.41,0:05:33.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and come a whole human being still \Njust like you went in.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:33.92,0:05:39.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That is the wealth that we wanted. That is the\Nwealth that we saw and that is the wealth
Dialogue: 0,0:05:39.87,0:05:42.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that they protected.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:42.23,0:05:46.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Both metaphorically and literally
Dialogue: 0,0:05:46.72,0:05:54.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,through all manner of instruments of \Nneoliberalism and colonialism.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:54.09,0:05:56.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They do it
Dialogue: 0,0:05:56.44,0:06:04.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because to them everything, everything \Nthey see, everything in the world around them
Dialogue: 0,0:06:04.64,0:06:07.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is fish.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:07.66,0:06:09.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They can't see the world any other way.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:09.54,0:06:16.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so they think, that if you catch a fish\NI can't have that same fish.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:16.28,0:06:21.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And they don't realise, that we live in a \Ndifferent world, where not everything is fish.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:21.39,0:06:26.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Where there is information\Nand that information can go anywhere,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:26.14,0:06:32.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and be anything and it can help everybody\Nat the same time.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:32.52,0:06:34.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's not a new concept.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:34.96,0:06:41.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's a concept that was almost perfected\Nby Magritte, 85 years ago
Dialogue: 0,0:06:41.39,0:06:43.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,represented here:
Dialogue: 0,0:06:43.74,0:06:46.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That is not a pipe.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:46.61,0:06:50.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It is the information to make a pipe.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:50.22,0:06:58.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That is not an STL. Or that is not a\Nreproduction, that is an STL.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:01.06,0:07:06.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Let's put some economic terms on this,\Nbecause the people, who we are working against,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:06.17,0:07:10.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the people who promote the anti commons\Nthey put language on this stuff.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:10.99,0:07:13.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is the main language.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:13.22,0:07:18.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We can divide it into two main axes:\Nexcludable and rivalrous.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:18.51,0:07:22.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,All items more or less fall into these categories.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:22.77,0:07:29.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so fish falls into this category. It is a \Nnon-excludable, largely commodity
Dialogue: 0,0:07:29.29,0:07:32.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that is rivalrous. Indeed
Dialogue: 0,0:07:32.50,0:07:36.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it is very hard to keep people from \Ncatching fish out in the harbour.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:36.72,0:07:43.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But if one person catches one fish, then\Nthe next person can not.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:46.23,0:07:51.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Where society wants us to be by and large is right here:
Dialogue: 0,0:07:51.31,0:07:56.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Products that are non-rivalrous but excludable.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:56.70,0:08:05.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Think for example of an mp3. An mp3 should be this:\Npublic good, it is not excludable,
Dialogue: 0,0:08:05.35,0:08:09.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you can't keep people from it.\NIt is non-rivalrous.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:09.27,0:08:15.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You give somebody an mp3, you haven't \Ntaken away an mp3 from anybody else.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:15.75,0:08:21.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And yet, what is desired, is for everything\Nto be here:
Dialogue: 0,0:08:21.26,0:08:22.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,A club good.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:22.97,0:08:25.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You need a membership.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:25.49,0:08:30.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Be that the country you live in or\Nthe amount of money that you make.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:30.13,0:08:35.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It is excludable.\NBecause they have excluded you.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:35.06,0:08:39.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Not because of any inaid or inherant reason.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:39.02,0:08:43.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,How can we turn things from club goods\Ninto public goods or
Dialogue: 0,0:08:43.61,0:08:49.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,another question: how have they turned things\Nfrom public goods into club goods?
Dialogue: 0,0:08:49.71,0:08:54.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Well, here two men who've led the charge:
Dialogue: 0,0:08:54.85,0:08:58.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Birch Bayh and Bob Dole.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:58.09,0:09:03.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They came up with this legislation, that\Nended up, basically making it so, that
Dialogue: 0,0:09:03.54,0:09:09.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,one thing that was available, non-excludable \Nand non-rivalrous, that is
Dialogue: 0,0:09:09.77,0:09:16.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,all of the information coming out of universities\Nand these sorts of charities and other little groups
Dialogue: 0,0:09:16.09,0:09:21.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,could now be patented. Patenting is the \Nmain weapon here.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:21.71,0:09:27.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's how you turn things from usable by\Neverybody, available to everybody
Dialogue: 0,0:09:27.27,0:09:32.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to usable by a few and available to few.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:32.77,0:09:38.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Their policy was absolutely a success.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:38.27,0:09:47.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Here you see the patents, starting from 1963\Nall the way to 2014. Total patents granted.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:47.82,0:09:53.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,1980 is highlighted in blue. Everything before\Nthat is basically since the time of a man
Dialogue: 0,0:09:53.86,0:09:57.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,named Vannevar Bush,\Nwho kind of floated the main idea,
Dialogue: 0,0:09:57.47,0:10:01.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that information should kind of be out for folks.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:01.01,0:10:03.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And as you can see, it's relatively stable.\N
Dialogue: 0,0:10:03.41,0:10:07.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,More or less minor deviations\Nmore or less the same.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:07.21,0:10:12.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But from 1980 to 2014 it virtually looks exponential.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:12.73,0:10:15.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So closer with the numbers.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:15.62,0:10:24.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,1980 66 thousend patents, in 2014 326033.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:24.71,0:10:31.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so these weapons, they've resulted in \Nus not being able to take things from
Dialogue: 0,0:10:31.49,0:10:37.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,simple idea to something we can use,\Nbut instead we are loaded,
Dialogue: 0,0:10:37.20,0:10:42.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we have to walk through these landmines.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:42.83,0:10:47.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now, this is a story that you all already know.\N
Dialogue: 0,0:10:47.57,0:10:49.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because it doesn't matter what country \Nyou live in.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:49.60,0:10:52.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm guessing that everybody here lives in\Nfirst world.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:52.86,0:10:58.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,These are issues, that innovators in the first world\Nmust content with.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:58.51,0:11:04.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But by and large these are issues that stop\Npeople in the first world from becoming rich.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:04.79,0:11:08.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In the third world these are issues,\Nthat can mean the difference between
Dialogue: 0,0:11:08.68,0:11:12.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,life and death.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:12.26,0:11:21.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,{\i1}applause{\i0}
Dialogue: 0,0:11:21.01,0:11:26.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Here is an example from the late 90s\Nearly 2000s.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:26.12,0:11:32.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Profiteering pharmaceutical companies versus\NSouth Africa.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:32.30,0:11:37.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,South Africa was in the middle of a \Nabsolutely terrible crisis,
Dialogue: 0,0:11:37.31,0:11:42.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which arguable they have not exited\Nwith HIV AIDS
Dialogue: 0,0:11:42.20,0:11:46.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and pharmaceutical companies using\Nthe weapon of patents
Dialogue: 0,0:11:46.28,0:11:51.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,were saying: ehm, sorry, we can not give you\Nthis medication at the rate you can affort,
Dialogue: 0,0:11:51.57,0:11:58.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we can not give this medication to everybody,\Nbecause what protects our profits?
Dialogue: 0,0:11:58.38,0:12:04.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now, most people aren't that crass most of the\Ntime, there are not saying what protects our profits,
Dialogue: 0,0:12:04.41,0:12:08.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because that's bad public relations.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:08.22,0:12:13.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But they say: Oh, what about our research and\Ndevelopment funds etc etc.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:13.13,0:12:17.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Of course mostly done on the public dime.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:17.30,0:12:23.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But in the end every once in a while, we happen to\Nsee, one of the type, who pops up, who speaks
Dialogue: 0,0:12:23.53,0:12:33.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a little bit more from the heart, as we have seen\Nrecently.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:33.40,0:12:41.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What my father told me initially, was what I've been\Ntaught for all the years of my life.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:41.46,0:12:42.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,{\i1}music{\i0}
Dialogue: 0,0:12:42.81,0:12:48.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What he told me is that either\Nyou are one of the predators
Dialogue: 0,0:12:48.96,0:12:51.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or one of the prey.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:51.64,0:12:58.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It is an absolutely irrefutable truth.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:58.71,0:13:03.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's a natural order.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:03.58,0:13:06.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It is absolut. God gave us this.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:06.73,0:13:09.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You have to be on one side or the other.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:09.37,0:13:12.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You just have to accept it.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:13.90,0:13:20.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,{\i1}music of video still playing{\i0}
Dialogue: 0,0:14:25.21,0:14:29.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so if you're born the caribou, \Nyou have to own that existence,
Dialogue: 0,0:14:30.59,0:14:32.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and just accept it.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:34.71,0:14:43.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Well, just before I got on my plane here.\NI was at work as a doctor.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:43.74,0:14:47.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When I went to my shift, I did not go there,\N
Dialogue: 0,0:14:47.53,0:14:52.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so that I would allow the natural order \Nto take its course.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:52.11,0:14:57.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I did not wake up today, so that the natural\Norder would take its course.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:58.71,0:15:00.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Fuck the natural order.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:00.31,0:15:03.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And fuck the world's who are behind it.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:03.08,0:15:04.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I don't want it.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:04.83,0:15:06.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,People in Palestine don't want it.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:06.70,0:15:08.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,My patience don't want it.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:09.35,0:15:10.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,None of us want it.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:11.82,0:15:14.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, why do we accept it?
Dialogue: 0,0:15:17.60,0:15:19.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If we look at the world around us
Dialogue: 0,0:15:19.93,0:15:27.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what we're seeing then, is this thing, that \Nwe want to just throw off that natural order.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:27.92,0:15:34.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But the terms of our insurgency have to be
Dialogue: 0,0:15:34.34,0:15:36.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,careful.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:36.68,0:15:40.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You can't as the caribou look at the wolf and say:
Dialogue: 0,0:15:40.59,0:15:43.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,ehm, well, I don't really care, you know, \Nfuck you and fuck your natural order
Dialogue: 0,0:15:43.42,0:15:46.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I am not participating.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:46.57,0:15:49.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You have to be careful,
Dialogue: 0,0:15:49.16,0:15:52.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because they are potent, they are dangerous.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:52.27,0:15:57.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In this particular case the main danger\Nto us in the third world and developing nations
Dialogue: 0,0:15:57.72,0:15:59.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is treaties.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:59.58,0:16:05.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,These laws are applied on us by treaty and \Nyou can't just opt out.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:05.78,0:16:11.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The Palestinian economic system is shut down\Nby FIAT
Dialogue: 0,0:16:11.28,0:16:13.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Medication can't arrive by FIAT.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:13.57,0:16:23.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,All of these things happen, because we are too\Nweak.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:23.12,0:16:27.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so, how do you respond?
Dialogue: 0,0:16:27.84,0:16:31.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What is the tool of resistance?
Dialogue: 0,0:16:31.27,0:16:33.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We eluded to it earlier.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:33.06,0:16:35.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,My father even told it to me as a child.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:35.62,0:16:37.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Knowledge
Dialogue: 0,0:16:37.05,0:16:39.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the Commons
Dialogue: 0,0:16:39.27,0:16:43.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That is where a better future comes from.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:43.04,0:16:45.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And that is where our examples live.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:45.36,0:16:49.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So let's think about the free software movement.\NLet's look at some examples.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:49.36,0:16:54.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Some of you are German. \NMunich is one such example.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:54.56,0:17:01.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Munich has shifted allmost all of their city\Ndigital infrastructure into free and open source.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:01.55,0:17:04.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They even have their own Linux distribution.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:04.10,0:17:06.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's pretty amazing actually.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:06.34,0:17:11.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There are other examples, that are some minor\Ncities here and there.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:11.72,0:17:13.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There are some state wide examples.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:13.63,0:17:17.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,For example, such as Kerala in India.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:17.26,0:17:22.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The chief minister basically like the prime, the \Nhighest person within Kerala at the time said:
Dialogue: 0,0:17:22.88,0:17:27.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We believe that free and open-source software\Nis an essential component in our drive to
Dialogue: 0,0:17:27.58,0:17:35.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,democratise information technology and bring\Nits benefits to all sections of society.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:38.40,0:17:45.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In additon to Kerala, Tamil Nadu has done \Nsomething similar, also in India.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:45.29,0:17:50.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then there are some partial ministry level\Nefforts, that have been happening,
Dialogue: 0,0:17:50.09,0:17:55.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for example Italy, in their ministry of, I think it is, \Ndefense or interior, you know, had decided
Dialogue: 0,0:17:55.62,0:17:59.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,just a small move to go from Microsoft Office\Nto Libre Office.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:59.86,0:18:03.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Apperently small moves, but really\Nmeaningful to the people around us.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:03.62,0:18:08.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We'll look at this from places like\NPalestine, like the Gaza Strip, where I work,
Dialogue: 0,0:18:08.84,0:18:12.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and we think, why can't we do that?
Dialogue: 0,0:18:12.37,0:18:14.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Why can't we participate in these commons?
Dialogue: 0,0:18:14.76,0:18:17.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What is it, that we can do to contribute?
Dialogue: 0,0:18:17.45,0:18:20.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,At the national level, there are a couple of very\Npotent examples.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:20.90,0:18:24.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The two main examples, that I ran into, \Nwere Equador and Brazil.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:24.75,0:18:30.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Equador, if you guys were at the talk yesterday\Nis a very interesting and nuanced place.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:30.49,0:18:34.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So there are some authoritarian tendencies.\N
Dialogue: 0,0:18:34.21,0:18:38.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Bethany Horne, who I believe is in our \Naudiency here, I won't point her out,
Dialogue: 0,0:18:38.02,0:18:43.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is one person, who's been visited by the \Nauthoritarianism of the group.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:43.54,0:18:49.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But notwithstanding, they are doing some very \Ngood things and one of those very good things
Dialogue: 0,0:18:49.88,0:18:54.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is free software at the national level.\NThat's actually quite incredible.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:54.09,0:18:57.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Directed from the presidency.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:57.06,0:19:05.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Brazil very similar. Brazil started their move\Nalmost the same time, maybe a little bit before.
Dialogue: 0,0:19:05.67,0:19:12.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, Palestine looks quite ripe. For exactly the \Nsame thing we've been seen,
Dialogue: 0,0:19:12.97,0:19:15.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,has a few characteristics:
Dialogue: 0,0:19:15.23,0:19:19.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,These are the literacy levels of \Na few different countries.
Dialogue: 0,0:19:19.94,0:19:23.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,United States and Germany,\Nbasically 1% who are illiterate.
Dialogue: 0,0:19:23.74,0:19:27.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Brazil and Equador 90.4 and 91.6
Dialogue: 0,0:19:27.97,0:19:35.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Palestine 95.3. That's the Westbank and the\NGaza Strip. My best guess, if you would include
Dialogue: 0,0:19:35.82,0:19:39.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the diaspora that number would go significantly up.
Dialogue: 0,0:19:39.21,0:19:41.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because the diaspora tends to be well educated.
Dialogue: 0,0:19:41.36,0:19:45.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That means that this lesson \Nthat my father gave me is a lesson that
Dialogue: 0,0:19:45.24,0:19:50.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,clearly Palestinians have been receiving for\Nyears if not decades.
Dialogue: 0,0:19:50.45,0:19:54.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They're intelligent people, they're well educated.
Dialogue: 0,0:19:54.25,0:20:00.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They're living under occupation and they want to\Nsee a change.
Dialogue: 0,0:20:00.24,0:20:03.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, we've started all of the same things \Nthat you would expect.
Dialogue: 0,0:20:03.73,0:20:09.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We started of course replacing all of our servers \Nwith Apache based
Dialogue: 0,0:20:09.05,0:20:11.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if any of them were ever on Windows.
Dialogue: 0,0:20:11.04,0:20:16.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We've started of course using backends for \Nour contact management systems, like
Dialogue: 0,0:20:16.00,0:20:17.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Joomla and Drupal.
Dialogue: 0,0:20:17.92,0:20:20.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Of course, we started doing those things.
Dialogue: 0,0:20:20.53,0:20:23.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In terms of the infrastructure that's more or less\Nthe step where we are.
Dialogue: 0,0:20:23.96,0:20:29.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We are at infrastructural components rather\Nthen desktops.
Dialogue: 0,0:20:29.60,0:20:34.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We have a very nascent EMR, \Nthat will be coming up hopefully soon.
Dialogue: 0,0:20:34.62,0:20:43.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And we expect that this EMR will leverage at the\Nbest of what we have and what we see.
Dialogue: 0,0:20:43.83,0:20:50.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,However there is something else that's interessing\Na response to the necessity we have in Palestine.
Dialogue: 0,0:20:50.22,0:20:55.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We learned that lesson from people, decorating\Ntheir shoes, submerging their computers
Dialogue: 0,0:20:55.83,0:21:03.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from Novenas and homemade \Nchicken CT scanners.
Dialogue: 0,0:21:03.07,0:21:09.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And what we started doing is making our \Nown hardware as well.
Dialogue: 0,0:21:09.22,0:21:16.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I believe that the Gaza Strip is the first place\Nthat is trying a national level strategy for
Dialogue: 0,0:21:16.45,0:21:19.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,open source hardware and is pushing it hard.
Dialogue: 0,0:21:19.82,0:21:28.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We saw 3D printers, we saw how they worked.\NWe wanted our own and we got them.
Dialogue: 0,0:21:28.79,0:21:32.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Leftmost is the very first 3D printer ever\Nmade in Gaza.
Dialogue: 0,0:21:32.50,0:21:38.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In the middle and the next one are their children.\NMade entirely in Gaza.
Dialogue: 0,0:21:38.02,0:21:42.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Some of the electronics have to come in,\Nall of the motors are salvaged from garbage.
Dialogue: 0,0:21:42.65,0:21:47.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We expect that within a year, we'll be able to\Nmake everything domestically.
Dialogue: 0,0:21:47.40,0:21:51.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's our hope and that's our dream and\NI think we can get there.
Dialogue: 0,0:21:51.48,0:21:55.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Of course my own work has been to make \Nmedical devices.
Dialogue: 0,0:21:55.22,0:21:56.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's where I've been leveraging them.
Dialogue: 0,0:21:56.73,0:21:58.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is a stethoscope, a very early version.
Dialogue: 0,0:21:58.60,0:22:03.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is the final version as of 3 weeks ago\Napproved by Health Canada.
Dialogue: 0,0:22:03.22,0:22:08.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is a first world medical device, \Nthat is available for pennies.
Dialogue: 0,0:22:08.04,0:22:17.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,{\i1}applause{\i0}
Dialogue: 0,0:22:17.97,0:22:21.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,2 Dollars and 50 Cents to replace \Na 300 Dollar stethoscope.
Dialogue: 0,0:22:21.28,0:22:25.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's not that people have 300 Dollar stethoscope\Nrunning around, I said they had nothing.
Dialogue: 0,0:22:25.32,0:22:28.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now they have something.
Dialogue: 0,0:22:28.14,0:22:31.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's been with the help of Kliment, who you will\Nrecognise from around here and
Dialogue: 0,0:22:31.06,0:22:32.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Jenn who you will recognise from here
Dialogue: 0,0:22:32.93,0:22:39.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and some engineers, who I can't really show,\Nbecause I fear for their safety.
Dialogue: 0,0:22:39.57,0:22:43.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Our Palestinians, the heros, \Nthe real heros of this work.
Dialogue: 0,0:22:43.34,0:22:49.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And as you can see here from a frequency-audio\Nresponse curve, it's as good as anything out there.
Dialogue: 0,0:22:49.29,0:22:55.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We're working next on a pulse oximeter with the\Nhelp of really talented engineer Hanan Anis
Dialogue: 0,0:22:55.18,0:23:01.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from University of Ottawa. And that should be \Nready by the middle of next year.
Dialogue: 0,0:23:01.67,0:23:06.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Surgical tools will be forthcoming, because\Nright now in Gaza we're washing everything
Dialogue: 0,0:23:06.23,0:23:08.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with salt water.\N
Dialogue: 0,0:23:08.11,0:23:15.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And prostetics are coming, we hope.\NLots of issues there, but not technical.
Dialogue: 0,0:23:15.80,0:23:23.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We have this origin story for the commons, as \Nso the commons was something from the past.
Dialogue: 0,0:23:23.84,0:23:26.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That was there and then now it's gone.
Dialogue: 0,0:23:26.75,0:23:30.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But that origin story, I think, is a myth.
Dialogue: 0,0:23:30.02,0:23:34.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And when we recognise, that the commons\Nare actually an evolution of where we are
Dialogue: 0,0:23:34.44,0:23:38.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,rather than somewhere that we were before,\Nwe trying to reclaim.
Dialogue: 0,0:23:38.12,0:23:43.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Then I think the next step is trying to\Nfigure out, how to get back there.
Dialogue: 0,0:23:43.45,0:23:49.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,At that's what we are trying to do in Palestine.\NHow do we get back there?
Dialogue: 0,0:23:49.34,0:23:55.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The biggest way is to break down those borders\Nand blockades and share information.
Dialogue: 0,0:23:55.62,0:24:03.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so, I want to invite you, all of you\Nto come with me to Gaza
Dialogue: 0,0:24:03.95,0:24:11.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In May for the first international Free and \NOpen Source Health Conference.
Dialogue: 0,0:24:11.81,0:24:18.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Where we will discuss these ideas\Nand where we will try to move forward
Dialogue: 0,0:24:18.39,0:24:22.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the commons. If the anti commons\Nis generally funded by
Dialogue: 0,0:24:22.62,0:24:26.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,military industrial complex, as we see within\NSilicon Valley and so on,
Dialogue: 0,0:24:26.95,0:24:31.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then maybe this commons can be funded\Nby the ever green spending
Dialogue: 0,0:24:31.97,0:24:35.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that we always have in health care.
Dialogue: 0,0:24:35.51,0:24:40.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Health care is one of the biggest spends\Nin the Gaza Strip.
Dialogue: 0,0:24:40.09,0:24:47.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And if we direct it in the right places we can also \Nuse it to develop our national sovereignty.
Dialogue: 0,0:24:47.44,0:24:53.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Join me, in whatever where you can.
Dialogue: 0,0:24:53.09,0:24:56.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And let's make it more sovereign\Nbetter place.
Dialogue: 0,0:24:56.60,0:24:58.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,For Gaza and for everywhere else.
Dialogue: 0,0:24:58.80,0:25:00.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Thank you.
Dialogue: 0,0:25:00.28,0:25:12.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,{\i1}applause{\i0}
Dialogue: 0,0:25:12.12,0:25:18.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Herald: Thank you for the talk.\NAnd we have about 5 min for questions.
Dialogue: 0,0:25:18.87,0:25:27.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So please if you have any questions line up \Nin front of one of the microphones.
Dialogue: 0,0:25:31.87,0:25:33.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Please!
Dialogue: 0,0:25:33.49,0:25:40.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Question: I would like to know, how did you \Ndistribute your open source instruments.
Dialogue: 0,0:25:40.84,0:25:47.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Is it also possible for other countries that have\Nthe same problems as in Palestinian areas
Dialogue: 0,0:25:47.89,0:25:49.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to get those?
Dialogue: 0,0:25:49.60,0:25:55.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Tarek: Yes, absolutely. One thing we don't do\Nis give medical devices.\N
Dialogue: 0,0:25:55.41,0:25:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Anybody who's interested, and there have been\Nfew ministry to ministry contacts on this,
Dialogue: 0,0:25:59.99,0:26:05.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is basically encouraged to start up their own\Nfundamentally fab lab.
Dialogue: 0,0:26:05.22,0:26:11.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, what we do is, we go into a country, talk to their\Nengineers, engineering departments and so on,
Dialogue: 0,0:26:11.71,0:26:17.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and we try to get them up and running, \Nso that they're manufacturing their own stuff.
Dialogue: 0,0:26:17.34,0:26:24.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This means anybody who's tried to start an open\Nsource project or free and open source project
Dialogue: 0,0:26:24.21,0:26:26.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,will know that the more contributors the better.
Dialogue: 0,0:26:26.74,0:26:28.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You don't want consumers.
Dialogue: 0,0:26:28.27,0:26:30.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You want people, who are participating.
Dialogue: 0,0:26:30.43,0:26:35.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so anybody who wants to... it's under an open\Nsource licence. The open hardware licence.
Dialogue: 0,0:26:35.68,0:26:39.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And actually it's also cross licenced to GPLv3.
Dialogue: 0,0:26:39.80,0:26:45.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Please take it. It would be my privilege to see it \Nin the news everywhere else. It really would be.
Dialogue: 0,0:26:45.39,0:26:50.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Everybody who's working on it, wants to see that.
Dialogue: 0,0:26:55.52,0:27:01.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Herald: OK, thank you very much again and see\Nyou at the next talk, enjoy the rest of the conference.
Dialogue: 0,0:27:01.95,0:27:06.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Oh, wait we have a question from the internet\Nit seems.
Dialogue: 0,0:27:06.35,0:27:11.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Question: What would be the solution to Palestine?
Dialogue: 0,0:27:15.06,0:27:20.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Tarek: I don't think you need to worry about the\Noccupation. I think that's the question.
Dialogue: 0,0:27:20.41,0:27:23.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Don't worry about the occupation.
Dialogue: 0,0:27:23.47,0:27:26.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The occupation is a little bit like a marathon.
Dialogue: 0,0:27:26.89,0:27:30.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You have to keep working, we see the end though.
Dialogue: 0,0:27:30.70,0:27:33.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The Palestinian will take care of their own freedom.
Dialogue: 0,0:27:33.87,0:27:35.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You don't need to worry about that one.
Dialogue: 0,0:27:35.57,0:27:41.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,All you need to do as much as possible,\Nis try to not participate within the occupation.
Dialogue: 0,0:27:41.45,0:27:47.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now, I travel through Israel and nobody, who \Ntravels through Israel is allowed to endorse
Dialogue: 0,0:27:47.29,0:27:52.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the boycott divestment and sanctions campaign,\Nbecause that would be illegal and would mean
Dialogue: 0,0:27:52.93,0:27:54.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I could not travel through Israel.
Dialogue: 0,0:27:54.61,0:27:58.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,However some people consider it to be a\Nnonviolent way of participating against
Dialogue: 0,0:27:58.57,0:28:01.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the occupation.\N
Dialogue: 0,0:28:01.74,0:28:06.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now, what we do need to do is figure out\Nwhat happens the day after occupation
Dialogue: 0,0:28:06.94,0:28:15.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that's what worries me. For example there is\Na Coca Cola bottling company being built
Dialogue: 0,0:28:15.89,0:28:22.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the Gaza Strip. Why? It's going to use more\Nwater than the entire Gaza Strip has available to it.
Dialogue: 0,0:28:22.29,0:28:27.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,More concrete than in all of the construction\Nprojects. Why?
Dialogue: 0,0:28:27.20,0:28:30.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because they are looking for the day after\Noccupation.
Dialogue: 0,0:28:30.72,0:28:34.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And what I don't want is for Palestine to turn\Ninto South Africa.\N
Dialogue: 0,0:28:34.91,0:28:41.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Beautiful dreams, excellent vision and you \Nloose the war the day after the occupation ends.
Dialogue: 0,0:28:41.92,0:28:45.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's why we have to encourage\Nthese democratic institutions.
Dialogue: 0,0:28:45.51,0:28:50.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's why we have to participate in these, I guess\Nessentually like chaos based
Dialogue: 0,0:28:50.61,0:28:55.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,anarchist based collectives, that are going to move\Nforward the democratic process there
Dialogue: 0,0:28:55.70,0:28:59.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and everywhere else.
Dialogue: 0,0:28:59.51,0:29:05.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,{\i1}applause{\i0}
Dialogue: 0,0:29:05.41,0:29:11.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Herald: So we have time for one final question.\NThe microphone at the right please.
Dialogue: 0,0:29:11.15,0:29:16.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Question: The big one. Can you say something \Nabout the interface between open medical devices
Dialogue: 0,0:29:16.37,0:29:23.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and regulation? So in Europe most of the stuff is\Npublic or a lot of it is public, so you have two layers
Dialogue: 0,0:29:23.09,0:29:27.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of regulation: one is what devices you're authorised\Nto use and operating on the human body.
Dialogue: 0,0:29:27.65,0:29:31.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The other one is how you're authorised\Nto buy the stuff,
Dialogue: 0,0:29:31.85,0:29:35.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so procurement regulation is very, very rigid\Nin some European countries
Dialogue: 0,0:29:35.62,0:29:41.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in term of medical devices. Most of the stuff\Nwould be illegal.
Dialogue: 0,0:29:41.03,0:29:46.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Tarek: It was very important for us, the project\Nwasn't, you know, people have made stethoscopes
Dialogue: 0,0:29:46.17,0:29:51.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and actually a lot of people told me this. They\Nsaid, your's isn't the first 3D printed stethoscope.
Dialogue: 0,0:29:51.12,0:29:53.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I made one, we made one, whatever it is.
Dialogue: 0,0:29:53.62,0:29:57.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And it is true, we are not nearly the first\N3D printed stethoscope.
Dialogue: 0,0:29:57.46,0:30:05.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We are the first validated and now Health Canada\Napproved 3D printed stethoscope.
Dialogue: 0,0:30:05.28,0:30:13.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think that these regulations are actually\Na good thing, because the population is
Dialogue: 0,0:30:13.18,0:30:16.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,an incredibly vulnerable population \Non the other side.
Dialogue: 0,0:30:16.58,0:30:20.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We see a lots of experiments being run on poor,\Ndisenfranchised people.
Dialogue: 0,0:30:20.70,0:30:23.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It happens in the first world.\NThink Tuskegee and
Dialogue: 0,0:30:23.15,0:30:25.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,similar things are happening today.
Dialogue: 0,0:30:25.75,0:30:31.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It happens in the third world,\Nthink Nestle and such projects.
Dialogue: 0,0:30:31.80,0:30:34.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I think the regulations are a good thing.
Dialogue: 0,0:30:34.82,0:30:39.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The FDA, you know, probably not. It's very \Nexpensive, very hard to get through.
Dialogue: 0,0:30:39.36,0:30:44.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But it's not taxing to get through\Nreasonable regulatory bodies, like Health Canada.
Dialogue: 0,0:30:44.91,0:30:51.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I myself don't object. What I see in the Gaza Strip\Nis people there want to know
Dialogue: 0,0:30:51.10,0:30:55.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that they're not receiving garbage. So they're\Nasking for these regulatory approvals.
Dialogue: 0,0:30:55.51,0:31:01.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The Gaza Strip will not use expired medical\Ndevices, that people, you know well-wishers and
Dialogue: 0,0:31:01.96,0:31:06.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,some hospital in the first world that decided\NI like rather throw this away in the Gaza Strip
Dialogue: 0,0:31:06.96,0:31:10.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,than throw this away in the garbage.\NNo we don't want that.
Dialogue: 0,0:31:10.44,0:31:15.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There is a dignity as well that has to be provided.\NAnd that dignity comes with the same standards
Dialogue: 0,0:31:15.63,0:31:20.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,being met in the third world as in the first world
Dialogue: 0,0:31:20.79,0:31:26.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Herald: OK, thank you very much. Unfortunately\Nwe are out of time, but I hope you enjoy the
Dialogue: 0,0:31:26.54,0:31:29.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,rest of the congress and see you at the next talk.
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