[Script Info] Title: [Events] Format: Layer, Start, End, Style, Name, MarginL, MarginR, MarginV, Effect, Text Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(0:56 people's noises) Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(check who) 1.17 We've got one hour\Nand a quarter. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(confused voices then 1:31) How do we know\Nwhen these things are going to be turned on? Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(confused voices, then1:58) What? OK? \NRight. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Chairperson 2:03) Ladies and Genltemen, \Ncan I ask everyone Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to take their seats, please? Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We're about to begin, \Nso if you're visiting the bar, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,can you charge your glasses and return \Nto your seats, and then we'll begin. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We've got an hour and a quarter\Nfor this debate. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,OK, can I -- Welcome everybody to\Nthe Online Educa OEB debate. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm not sure what number this is\Nin the series of debates that we've had, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think it may be getting up to our 10th. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What I can tell you is that in the time\Nthat we've been having these debates Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and that I've been chairing them, \Nmy eyesight has now gone so bad Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that I can't possibly read any notes\Nthat I have without using glasses, so Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think we must be on at least our 10th. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What I can also tell you is that \NOnline Educa itself, OEB, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this year is celebrating \Nits 21st anniversary. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I think that perhaps deserves\Na round of applause. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So happy birthday to Online Educa --\N(Applause) -- this fantastic conference. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And 21 years ago was a very difficult --\Nvery different world indeed, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when one thinks about the scale and scope\Nof change that there -- Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that has taken place in the last 21 years. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,One statistic I was reading recently was \Nthat in the UK, in 1994, 21 years ago, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there were only 67 mobile phones\Nper 1000 people. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But only ten years later, in 2004, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there were more mobiles in the UK \Nthan people. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And that pattern of spread \Nof mobile communications alone Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,has spread across the world and \Nin Africa, for instance, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,those of you who have been to \NElearning Africa will have learned about Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the spread of mobile communications\Nacross the African continent. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So in terms of the scale \Nof technological change, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the spread of that change \Nacross the world, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the change in that short period of time,\Nin these past 21 years alone, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,has been enormous, and we heard about Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the scale of it in the opening \Nplenary session this morning. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We live in a world that is globalized,\Ninterconnected, hyperlinked Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and that scale of change we're \Nexperiencing, have experienced Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the last 21 years, is going to\Ngather pace and continue. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And all that is going to create a huge \Nchallenge for education and training, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which is going to be at the heart Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of dealing with both the positive and \Nnegative aspects of that change. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And that's why the motion that we're \Ndealing with today, in this debate, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is so important, and why the whole subject\Nof giving young people the skills Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that they need to cope with \Nthe challenges of this new world Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that we all are going to --\Nthat we are creating, is so important. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We've got four speakers, \Nfour panel speakers Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to open the debate this evening Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I'm going to ask each of them \Nto speak for 10 minutes, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then I'm going to -- Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-- two of them will speak for the motion, \Nobviously,and two against -- Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then I will throw open the debate \Nto all of you, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but if you want to intervene\Nwhilst they are speaking, because Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we're having a parliamentary-style\Ndebate, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then you can try to intervene on them Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and if they want to take \Nyour intervention, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then they can do so, but it will be\Nentirely up to you. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And if they don't, then you can draw\Nwhatever conclusions you want from that. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But I want to ensure that \Nwe keep the flow going, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so I'm not going to let you bully them\Nbut I'm going to allow you, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if you want to make a particular point, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or if you want to make \Na short intervention, to do so. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Then after they've spoken, we'll\Nthrow open the debate to the floor Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and you can make your contribution, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but do please realize that time \Nis of the essence, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so please try to keep it short and \Nto the point, succinct. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is the kind of debate equivalent\Nof texting. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, no long rambling contributions, \Nbecause I will cut you off Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if you try to do that. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, very short contributions, please. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then I'll ask each of our --\NI'll ask one speaker from each side Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to sum up, and then we will take a vote,\Nand we'll do that by a show of hands. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I've also made it clear \Nto all the speakers that they may Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,say things that they don't necessarily \Nwant to be held to in the future, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so I hope that you will understand that. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But this is an opportunity for us \Nto explore some of the issues, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but don't take it all too seriously, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and don't come and accuse people of saying\Nthings that you would -- Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that they might not necessarily always \Nwant to be held to. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,With that in mind, I'm going to ask\Nour first speaker, who is Jo Swinson. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Jo Swinson, who is the former Minister\Nfor business, innovation and skills Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the UK's coalition government of\N2010 to 2015, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to speak first for the motion. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And Jo, since leaving Parliament, \Nhas begun a new career Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and is involved in an award within\Na data intelligence company Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,called Clear Returns Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and she is an expert on the challenges \Nand opportunities of the digital age. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, over to you, Jo. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Jo Swinson) Thank you very much indeed,\NHarold. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I'm absolutely delighted to be here\Nin Berlin at OEB. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,A bit of a first, actually, the first\Ntechnology-related conference Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that I've been to where there is a queue\Nin the ladies' loos! Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I have to say I was particularly pleased \Nby that, not only as a feminist, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but also as a Brit who appreciates\Nthe art of queuing. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So it was good on two fronts. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, this house believes that \N21st century skills aren't being taught, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and they should be, is the motion\Nthat I want to convince you Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to support this evening. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We absolutely need to be equipping\Nour young people, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and indeed, people at every stage\Nof their lives, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with the skills that they need \Nfor the 21st century. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And our education systems, \Nand our wider society, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,have an important role to play in this. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But I will put it to you, this evening,\Nthat when it comes to technical skills, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when it comes to social skills,\Nand vitally, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when it comes to capacity \Nto embrace change, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we are not yet rising to that challenge\Nsufficiently. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There are very specific skills, \Nthere are gaps in science and technology Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that are not being properly filled. 9:32