WEBVTT 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 (0:56 people's noises) 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 (check who) 1.17 We've got one hour and a quarter. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 (confused voices then 1:31) How do we know when these things are going to be turned on? 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 (confused voices, then1:58) What? OK? Right. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 (Chairperson 2:03) Ladies and Genltemen, can I ask everyone 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 to take their seats, please? 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 We're about to begin, so if you're visiting the bar, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 can you charge your glasses and return to your seats, and then we'll begin. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 We've got an hour and a quarter for this debate. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 OK, can I -- Welcome everybody to the Online Educa OEB debate. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 I'm not sure what number this is in the series of debates that we've had, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 I think it may be getting up to our 10th. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 What I can tell you is that in the time that we've been having these debates 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and that I've been chairing them, my eyesight has now gone so bad 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 that I can't possibly read any notes that I have without using glasses, so 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 I think we must be on at least our 10th. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 What I can also tell you is that Online Educa itself, OEB, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 this year is celebrating its 21st anniversary. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 So I think that perhaps deserves a round of applause. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 So happy birthday to Online Educa -- (Applause) -- this fantastic conference. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 And 21 years ago was a very difficult -- very different world indeed, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 when one thinks about the scale and scope of change that there -- 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 that has taken place in the last 21 years. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 One statistic I was reading recently was that in the UK, in 1994, 21 years ago, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 there were only 67 mobile phones per 1000 people. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 But only ten years later, in 2004, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 there were more mobiles in the UK than people. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 And that pattern of spread of mobile communications alone 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 has spread across the world and in Africa, for instance, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 those of you who have been to Elearning Africa will have learned about 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 the spread of mobile communications across the African continent. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 So in terms of the scale of technological change, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and the spread of that change across the world, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 the change in that short period of time, in these past 21 years alone, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 has been enormous, and we heard about 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 the scale of it in the opening plenary session this morning. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 We live in a world that is globalized, interconnected, hyperlinked 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and that scale of change we're experiencing, have experienced 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 in the last 21 years, is going to gather pace and continue. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 And all that is going to create a huge challenge for education and training, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 which is going to be at the heart 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 of dealing with both the positive and negative aspects of that change. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 And that's why the motion that we're dealing with today, in this debate, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 is so important, and why the whole subject of giving young people the skills 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 that they need to cope with the challenges of this new world 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 that we all are going to -- that we are creating, is so important. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 We've got four speakers, four panel speakers 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 to open the debate this evening 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and I'm going to ask each of them to speak for 10 minutes, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and then I'm going to -- 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 -- two of them will speak for the motion, obviously,and two against -- 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 then I will throw open the debate to all of you, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 but if you want to intervene whilst they are speaking, because 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 we're having a parliamentary-style debate, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 then you can try to intervene on them 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and if they want to take your intervention, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 then they can do so, but it will be entirely up to you. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 And if they don't, then you can draw whatever conclusions you want from that. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 But I want to ensure that we keep the flow going, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 so I'm not going to let you bully them but I'm going to allow you, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 if you want to make a particular point, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 or if you want to make a short intervention, to do so. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 Then after they've spoken, we'll throw open the debate to the floor 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and you can make your contribution, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 but do please realize that time is of the essence, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 so please try to keep it short and to the point, succinct. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 This is the kind of debate equivalent of texting. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 So, no long rambling contributions, because I will cut you off 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 if you try to do that. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 So, very short contributions, please. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 And then I'll ask each of our -- I'll ask one speaker from each side 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 to sum up, and then we will take a vote, and we'll do that by a show of hands. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 And I've also made it clear to all the speakers that they may 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 say things that they don't necessarily want to be held to in the future, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 so I hope that you will understand that. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 But this is an opportunity for us to explore some of the issues, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 but don't take it all too seriously, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and don't come and accuse people of saying things that you would -- 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 that they might not necessarily always want to be held to. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 With that in mind, I'm going to ask our first speaker, who is Jo Swinson. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 Jo Swinson, who is the former Minister for business, innovation and skills 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 in the UK's coalition government of 2010 to 2015, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 to speak first for the motion. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 And Jo, since leaving Parliament, has begun a new career 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and is involved in an award within a data intelligence company 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 called Clear Returns 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and she is an expert on the challenges and opportunities of the digital age. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 So, over to you, Jo. 8:09