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Dialogue: 0,0:00:42.00,0:00:45.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> The survival of
Dialogue: 0,0:00:45.68,0:00:47.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,our species has\Nalways depended on
Dialogue: 0,0:00:47.72,0:00:50.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,advances in food\Nand agriculture.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:51.73,0:00:53.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> There are 7.3
Dialogue: 0,0:00:53.90,0:00:56.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,billion people\Non the planet.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:56.34,0:00:59.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> The world population\Nis expected to
Dialogue: 0,0:00:59.24,0:01:02.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,top nine billion 2050.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:02.89,0:01:06.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Climate change is\Ngoing to scramble
Dialogue: 0,0:01:06.08,0:01:07.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this whole "How\Nare we going to
Dialogue: 0,0:01:07.38,0:01:09.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,feed the world" debate.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:12.29,0:01:14.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> This is all about
Dialogue: 0,0:01:14.48,0:01:17.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,companies controlling\Nour future.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:22.21,0:01:24.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> So amongst
Dialogue: 0,0:01:24.44,0:01:26.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,all this conflict\Nand confusion,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:26.82,0:01:29.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,how do we make the most\Ninformed decisions
Dialogue: 0,0:01:29.75,0:01:32.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about how we\Nfeed ourselves?
Dialogue: 0,0:02:02.66,0:02:05.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> We are at a pivotal time
Dialogue: 0,0:02:05.90,0:02:07.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the history\Nof this island.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:07.94,0:02:10.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I have a bill before
Dialogue: 0,0:02:10.42,0:02:12.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the council that would
Dialogue: 0,0:02:12.26,0:02:14.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,restrict the use of GMOs.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:14.82,0:02:16.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The point is that we have
Dialogue: 0,0:02:16.49,0:02:19.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,an opportunity to\Nact, to do something.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:19.78,0:02:22.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We would make history\Non this island.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:22.28,0:02:24.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Let's make this island a
Dialogue: 0,0:02:24.32,0:02:27.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,model for the rest of\Nthe world. Thank you.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:39.58,0:02:41.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> I am concerned
Dialogue: 0,0:02:41.74,0:02:43.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about some of the\Nhealth issues
Dialogue: 0,0:02:43.58,0:02:45.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,related to GMOs on
Dialogue: 0,0:02:45.68,0:02:48.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a number of\Ndifferent levels.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:48.41,0:02:50.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,My approach was,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:50.91,0:02:53.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we're going to close the\Ndoor on this island.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:53.32,0:02:55.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You don't come here until
Dialogue: 0,0:02:55.76,0:02:59.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we have more information\Nof what is safe.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:59.78,0:03:01.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> There's a lot going\Non in this island.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:01.88,0:03:02.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is ground zero for the
Dialogue: 0,0:03:02.90,0:03:04.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,entire world in terms of
Dialogue: 0,0:03:04.88,0:03:09.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,experimentation of GMOs\Nand sea production.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:09.96,0:03:13.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is a really\Nrare opportunity
Dialogue: 0,0:03:13.22,0:03:16.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to get shots of\Npeople sprayed.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:19.30,0:03:21.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> We as a society do
Dialogue: 0,0:03:21.38,0:03:24.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so many stupid things\Nand I feel the GMO
Dialogue: 0,0:03:24.16,0:03:27.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is a thoughtless\Ninvasive species
Dialogue: 0,0:03:27.29,0:03:29.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that's being\Nbrought in here.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:29.16,0:03:31.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> If they're safe, great,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:31.34,0:03:33.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,bring your jobs, the\Nmore the merrier.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:33.78,0:03:34.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If you are helping\Nthe island,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:34.59,0:03:35.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if you're really feeding
Dialogue: 0,0:03:35.46,0:03:37.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,people, then you're\Nmore than welcome.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:37.94,0:03:41.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They're not farmers,\Nthey're mad scientists.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:43.13,0:03:44.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> No GMOs.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:44.86,0:03:46.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> With this conflict over
Dialogue: 0,0:03:46.49,0:03:48.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,genetically\Nmodified organisms,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:48.42,0:03:51.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Hawaii has become\Nground zero of
Dialogue: 0,0:03:51.38,0:03:52.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a battle for how to
Dialogue: 0,0:03:52.55,0:03:54.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,feed the world sustainably.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:54.34,0:03:59.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> A long day of testimony
Dialogue: 0,0:03:59.60,0:04:01.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on two proposed\Nlaws prohibiting
Dialogue: 0,0:04:01.100,0:04:04.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,genetically\Nmodified organisms
Dialogue: 0,0:04:04.07,0:04:05.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on Hawaii Island.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:05.48,0:04:06.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Before voting, the
Dialogue: 0,0:04:06.99,0:04:08.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Hawaii County\NCouncil tried to
Dialogue: 0,0:04:08.63,0:04:10.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,get answers about\Nany safety concerns
Dialogue: 0,0:04:10.73,0:04:13.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,related to GMOs.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:14.00,0:04:17.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> I'm calling this\Nmeeting back to order.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:17.40,0:04:19.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Aloha, Mr. Smith,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:19.26,0:04:21.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or is it Dr. Smith?
Dialogue: 0,0:04:21.74,0:04:23.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Jeffrey is fine.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:23.93,0:04:27.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Have you ever heard\Nof the Rainbow Papaya?
Dialogue: 0,0:04:27.46,0:04:29.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Yes. I'm very\Naware that.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:29.04,0:04:31.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Eating papaya\Nthat's genetically
Dialogue: 0,0:04:31.19,0:04:35.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,engineered might cause\Nyou to get more colds,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:35.52,0:04:38.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,more susceptibility\Nto hepatitis or HIV.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:38.82,0:04:42.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Again, these are\Ncompletely backed with
Dialogue: 0,0:04:42.34,0:04:44.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,pure viewed published\Nstudies will
Dialogue: 0,0:04:44.28,0:04:47.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,actually put the\Npopulation at risk.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:47.34,0:04:50.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Here in Hilo, we\Nhave Michael Shintaku
Dialogue: 0,0:04:50.40,0:04:51.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who opposes the bill.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:51.66,0:04:53.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Most of these\Ntestimonies is very
Dialogue: 0,0:04:53.06,0:04:54.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,emotional as everybody is
Dialogue: 0,0:04:54.29,0:04:56.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,saying that GMOs are
Dialogue: 0,0:04:56.27,0:04:57.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,dangerous, but they're not.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:57.50,0:04:59.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There's not a single\Ncredible study.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:59.66,0:05:01.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> It is caused\Nby people who
Dialogue: 0,0:05:01.18,0:05:04.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are intentionally making\Nother people scared.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:04.48,0:05:07.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> For the people who make
Dialogue: 0,0:05:07.04,0:05:10.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,their living growing\NGMOs, the Hawaiian,
Dialogue: 0,0:05:10.92,0:05:13.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,everybody here is\Nvery giving and
Dialogue: 0,0:05:13.16,0:05:15.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they would probably bend
Dialogue: 0,0:05:15.38,0:05:17.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,over backwards\Nto help you burn
Dialogue: 0,0:05:17.66,0:05:20.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,those papayas and grow\Nsomething decent.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:20.88,0:05:24.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> The face of this\Nissue is not papaya.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:24.35,0:05:26.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The face of this issue is
Dialogue: 0,0:05:26.15,0:05:29.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this huge multinational\Ncompanies.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:29.10,0:05:31.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's what you guys\Nare dealing with.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:31.08,0:05:35.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> One of the criticisms\Nthat I receive,
Dialogue: 0,0:05:35.08,0:05:37.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Okay, Margaret, you\Nare anti-progress.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:37.67,0:05:39.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You are anti-science."
Dialogue: 0,0:05:39.08,0:05:40.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What I say to that is,
Dialogue: 0,0:05:40.55,0:05:42.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Who's really being\Nunscientific?"
Dialogue: 0,0:05:42.92,0:05:46.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> A study by French\Nmolecular biologist,
Dialogue: 0,0:05:46.06,0:05:48.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Gilles-Eric Seralini\Nprovides solid evidence
Dialogue: 0,0:05:48.83,0:05:49.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,showing rats fed
Dialogue: 0,0:05:49.79,0:05:51.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,GMOs sprayed\Nwith glyphosate,
Dialogue: 0,0:05:51.70,0:05:54.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the toxic Roundup\Nherbicide,
Dialogue: 0,0:05:54.04,0:05:55.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,developed serious\Ntumors that
Dialogue: 0,0:05:55.64,0:05:56.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,took over their bodies.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:56.93,0:05:58.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> The biggest risks\Nassociated with
Dialogue: 0,0:05:58.84,0:06:01.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,today's genetically\Nengineered crops,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:01.26,0:06:03.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the so-called\NRoundup ready crops,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:03.81,0:06:06.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is this significant\Nincrease
Dialogue: 0,0:06:06.35,0:06:07.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in pesticide use.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:07.58,0:06:09.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> There's remarkable\Ncorrelations
Dialogue: 0,0:06:09.53,0:06:10.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,between the use of
Dialogue: 0,0:06:10.46,0:06:12.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,glyphosate on GMOs and
Dialogue: 0,0:06:12.47,0:06:14.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the rates of\Nautism in America,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:14.30,0:06:18.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,also of obesity and\Ndiabetes and Alzheimer's,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:18.17,0:06:20.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,all of these things\Ncorrelate very strongly.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:20.24,0:06:21.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I think eventually
Dialogue: 0,0:06:21.50,0:06:22.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the only solution that's
Dialogue: 0,0:06:22.82,0:06:23.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,actually going to work in
Dialogue: 0,0:06:23.84,0:06:25.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the long run is\Nto go organic.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:25.50,0:06:27.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Thank you.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:28.49,0:06:30.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> How many\Nscientists are here
Dialogue: 0,0:06:30.81,0:06:33.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the audience? Please\Nraise your hand.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:33.27,0:06:36.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,With degrees.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:37.52,0:06:40.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I just want facts,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:40.56,0:06:42.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,true facts,\Nwithout the fear,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:42.65,0:06:43.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,without anything else.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:43.99,0:06:45.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Facts and we can make\Nthe best decision
Dialogue: 0,0:06:45.86,0:06:48.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when we have\Nfacts, I'll yield.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:49.27,0:06:51.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> I'm Dennis Gonzales,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:51.86,0:06:53.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who actually very proudly
Dialogue: 0,0:06:53.57,0:06:55.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,developed the\NRainbow Papaya.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:55.39,0:06:57.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> If you say you
Dialogue: 0,0:06:57.47,0:06:59.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,don't want to\Nuse GMOs because
Dialogue: 0,0:06:59.39,0:07:00.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you don't believe\Nin manipulating
Dialogue: 0,0:07:00.94,0:07:03.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,plants the way they\Nare processed as,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:03.36,0:07:05.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I respect your belief.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:05.16,0:07:07.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But now if you say
Dialogue: 0,0:07:07.24,0:07:09.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,GMOs are not\Nsafe out there,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:09.88,0:07:12.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,now show me the data.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:12.48,0:07:14.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> There's absolutely
Dialogue: 0,0:07:14.36,0:07:17.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,no proof to health hazard.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:17.81,0:07:19.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Absolutely no proof.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:19.22,0:07:20.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Talk is very cheap,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:20.63,0:07:24.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but we did the research\Nand I stand by it.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:26.19,0:07:29.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Thank you. Margaret.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:29.90,0:07:32.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> I was a former\NBiology Major,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:32.17,0:07:34.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so I have some\Nexpertise in this
Dialogue: 0,0:07:34.09,0:07:37.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,area.There is no\Nmiddle ground,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:37.42,0:07:38.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you're either\Ngoing to be GMO
Dialogue: 0,0:07:38.98,0:07:40.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,allowing of GMO,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:40.48,0:07:42.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or you're going\Nto be organic
Dialogue: 0,0:07:42.37,0:07:43.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and not allow GMO.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:43.82,0:07:45.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They cannot coexist.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:45.68,0:07:48.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Thank you very\Nmuch. Then Madam Clerk
Dialogue: 0,0:07:48.08,0:07:50.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on motion to\Napprove Bill 113,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:50.70,0:07:53.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Draft 3, that's second\Nand final reading.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:53.62,0:07:54.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Aye.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:54.30,0:07:55.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> No.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:55.09,0:07:55.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Aye.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:55.86,0:07:56.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Aye.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:56.47,0:07:57.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Aye.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:57.61,0:07:58.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> No.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:58.09,0:07:58.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Aye.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:58.78,0:07:59.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Aye.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:59.44,0:08:01.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> You have six ayes.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:01.66,0:08:02.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Thank you.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:02.90,0:08:05.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Bill 113 is adopted.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:05.60,0:08:07.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Motion to adjourn.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:07.51,0:08:08.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Adjourned.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:09.09,0:08:12.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> I said you're not going
Dialogue: 0,0:08:12.31,0:08:14.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to get away with it\Nif I can help it,
Dialogue: 0,0:08:14.86,0:08:18.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and we stopped it.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:18.72,0:08:20.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Hawaii's ban on
Dialogue: 0,0:08:20.80,0:08:22.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,genetically modified\Norganisms and
Dialogue: 0,0:08:22.69,0:08:24.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the frightening evidence\Npresented during
Dialogue: 0,0:08:24.55,0:08:28.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,testimony made headlines\Naround the world.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:29.25,0:08:32.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was also held as\Na rallying cry by
Dialogue: 0,0:08:32.38,0:08:33.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the global leaders in
Dialogue: 0,0:08:33.61,0:08:35.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the movement against GMOs.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:35.56,0:08:38.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> I think your\NIsland is truth,
Dialogue: 0,0:08:38.26,0:08:40.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,speaking to the world,
Dialogue: 0,0:08:40.24,0:08:43.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that GMOs are\Nan extension of
Dialogue: 0,0:08:43.15,0:08:44.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,pesticides not
Dialogue: 0,0:08:44.71,0:08:46.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a substitute and\Nalternative to it.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:46.92,0:08:49.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> So, don't tell me\NMonsanto can't be beat.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:49.66,0:08:50.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They've been\Nbeaten over and
Dialogue: 0,0:08:50.95,0:08:53.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,over and over again,
Dialogue: 0,0:08:53.26,0:08:55.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and we can do it again.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:55.45,0:08:57.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Organic isn't the ceiling,
Dialogue: 0,0:08:57.22,0:08:59.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,organic's the floor,\Nand above that,
Dialogue: 0,0:08:59.50,0:09:01.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we build this new\Nhouse of food.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:01.20,0:09:03.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> This is actually\Na movement which
Dialogue: 0,0:09:03.07,0:09:04.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is spreading across\Nthe country.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:04.57,0:09:05.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> To you all the way\Nfrom Moscow, Margaret.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:05.72,0:09:07.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Why this ban?
Dialogue: 0,0:09:07.06,0:09:08.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> We want to protect
Dialogue: 0,0:09:08.23,0:09:11.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,future generations from\Nthe contamination.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:11.04,0:09:13.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> We do not want\Nany more GMO species
Dialogue: 0,0:09:13.27,0:09:14.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on this Island, period.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:14.89,0:09:16.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> You could get\Nyour kids sick.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:16.63,0:09:18.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> But what if while trying
Dialogue: 0,0:09:18.70,0:09:20.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to do the right thing,
Dialogue: 0,0:09:20.12,0:09:22.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the Council got it wrong?
Dialogue: 0,0:09:22.88,0:09:25.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> It's very frustrating to
Dialogue: 0,0:09:25.42,0:09:27.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,see people who don't even
Dialogue: 0,0:09:27.19,0:09:28.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,know what this\Nbreeding method
Dialogue: 0,0:09:28.63,0:09:30.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is making choices to
Dialogue: 0,0:09:30.97,0:09:33.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,avoid it based\Non information
Dialogue: 0,0:09:33.10,0:09:34.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that's not supported by
Dialogue: 0,0:09:34.15,0:09:36.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the scientific literature.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:37.35,0:09:38.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> I think
Dialogue: 0,0:09:38.64,0:09:39.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the three most\Nterrifying letters in
Dialogue: 0,0:09:39.87,0:09:42.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the English\Nlanguage are GMO.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:42.40,0:09:43.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> So I wondered\Nhow many people
Dialogue: 0,0:09:43.66,0:09:44.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,really know what they are?
Dialogue: 0,0:09:44.85,0:09:47.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> What does GMO stand for?
Dialogue: 0,0:09:47.49,0:09:50.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> I don't know.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:50.20,0:09:53.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> It's genetically
Dialogue: 0,0:09:53.14,0:09:55.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,mono- I don't\Nknow, what is it?
Dialogue: 0,0:09:55.50,0:09:56.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> I know it's bad, but to
Dialogue: 0,0:09:56.95,0:09:58.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,be completely honest\Nwith you, I've no idea.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:58.52,0:10:01.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> A GMO is really\Nan undefined term.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:01.09,0:10:03.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's a genetically\Nmodified organism.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:03.06,0:10:04.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I might argue that a
Dialogue: 0,0:10:04.24,0:10:05.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Chihuahua and a\NGreat Dane are
Dialogue: 0,0:10:05.71,0:10:07.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a genetically\Nmodified relative
Dialogue: 0,0:10:07.33,0:10:09.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to their ancestor,\Nthe wolf.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:09.22,0:10:11.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> A GMO is an\Norganism that's had
Dialogue: 0,0:10:11.47,0:10:14.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,its genetic\Nmakeup altered by
Dialogue: 0,0:10:14.50,0:10:17.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the insertion of DNA that's
Dialogue: 0,0:10:17.41,0:10:21.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from outside of its\Nnormal genetic makeup.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:21.19,0:10:24.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> So what does\Nthat really mean?
Dialogue: 0,0:10:24.04,0:10:27.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,At its most basic,\Ngenetic engineering,
Dialogue: 0,0:10:27.08,0:10:28.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or as some say, GE
Dialogue: 0,0:10:28.81,0:10:31.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is a modern form\Nof breeding,
Dialogue: 0,0:10:31.12,0:10:32.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which farmers have done for
Dialogue: 0,0:10:32.65,0:10:34.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,thousands of years\Nto select for
Dialogue: 0,0:10:34.81,0:10:36.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the most desirable\Ntraits and
Dialogue: 0,0:10:36.64,0:10:39.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,provide food for a\Ngrowing population.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:39.25,0:10:41.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In fact, it's hard to call
Dialogue: 0,0:10:41.18,0:10:43.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,any of our food natural.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:43.24,0:10:45.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Conventional, as well\Nas organic crops,
Dialogue: 0,0:10:45.79,0:10:47.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,have all been genetically
Dialogue: 0,0:10:47.17,0:10:50.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,modified through\Nselective breeding.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:50.06,0:10:52.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> The goal of genetic\Nengineering is to
Dialogue: 0,0:10:52.92,0:10:56.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,add useful traits\Ninto food.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:56.76,0:10:58.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Traits that currently
Dialogue: 0,0:10:58.06,0:10:59.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,help with weed, insect,
Dialogue: 0,0:10:59.65,0:11:02.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and disease control\Nin staple crops
Dialogue: 0,0:11:02.41,0:11:04.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that are in\Nbillions of meals
Dialogue: 0,0:11:04.27,0:11:05.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,consumed every day.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:05.82,0:11:08.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In fact, genetic engineering\Nhas been part of
Dialogue: 0,0:11:08.38,0:11:11.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,our lives for longer\Nthan most are aware.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:11.35,0:11:12.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Probably the\Nmost familiar is
Dialogue: 0,0:11:12.82,0:11:14.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,insulin, genetically\Nengineered insulin,
Dialogue: 0,0:11:14.84,0:11:16.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's been very important
Dialogue: 0,0:11:16.02,0:11:19.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for a patient suffering\Nfrom diabetes.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:19.21,0:11:21.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Biotechnology is used
Dialogue: 0,0:11:21.73,0:11:23.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in almost all\Ncheese making now.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:23.34,0:11:24.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So if you eating\Ncheese, you're eating
Dialogue: 0,0:11:24.52,0:11:25.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a product of biotechnology.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:25.96,0:11:27.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Scientists\Nare also working
Dialogue: 0,0:11:27.67,0:11:29.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to genetically\Nengineer seed
Dialogue: 0,0:11:29.41,0:11:32.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that aid humanitarian\Ncauses such as
Dialogue: 0,0:11:32.24,0:11:33.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,vitamin enrichment and
Dialogue: 0,0:11:33.40,0:11:35.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,crops like golden rice.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:35.60,0:11:37.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Golden rice is rice
Dialogue: 0,0:11:37.15,0:11:38.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,engineered to have high
Dialogue: 0,0:11:38.29,0:11:39.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,levels of beta carotene,
Dialogue: 0,0:11:39.40,0:11:41.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which gets turned\Ninto vitamin A.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:41.02,0:11:43.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's been proposed,\Nmany years ago,
Dialogue: 0,0:11:43.32,0:11:44.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as a solution for
Dialogue: 0,0:11:44.90,0:11:48.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,vitamin A deficiency in\Nthe developing world.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:48.72,0:11:49.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> In addition to helping
Dialogue: 0,0:11:49.93,0:11:51.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,millions of\Nchildren's stave
Dialogue: 0,0:11:51.37,0:11:53.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,off potentially fatal\Nvitamin deficiencies,
Dialogue: 0,0:11:53.88,0:11:56.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,scientists are also\Ndeveloping crops with
Dialogue: 0,0:11:56.26,0:11:59.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a tolerance for\Ndrought, such as rice,
Dialogue: 0,0:11:59.08,0:12:00.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,corn, and wheat, which
Dialogue: 0,0:12:00.61,0:12:02.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,could prove essential\Nin the face of
Dialogue: 0,0:12:02.26,0:12:06.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,climate change and\Ndisease resistance
Dialogue: 0,0:12:06.10,0:12:07.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to save crops like
Dialogue: 0,0:12:07.24,0:12:08.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the Hawaiian papaya from
Dialogue: 0,0:12:08.59,0:12:11.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,being completely wiped out.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:15.14,0:12:17.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In fact, the\Nfarmers who grow
Dialogue: 0,0:12:17.73,0:12:19.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this Rainbow\NPapaya convinced
Dialogue: 0,0:12:19.53,0:12:21.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the Hawaii Council to
Dialogue: 0,0:12:21.02,0:12:24.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,amend their ban on GMOs.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:24.50,0:12:26.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Papaya industry farmers
Dialogue: 0,0:12:26.98,0:12:28.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,flooded the\NCouncil chamber.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:28.61,0:12:30.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> To insinuate GMO is
Dialogue: 0,0:12:30.96,0:12:33.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,somehow unhealthy\Nis just not true.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:33.90,0:12:35.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Right now the\Npeople who are
Dialogue: 0,0:12:35.01,0:12:36.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,trying to go organic-.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:36.28,0:12:37.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Why don't you do it?
Dialogue: 0,0:12:37.42,0:12:38.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> I'm not a farmer.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:38.86,0:12:41.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> So stop telling me\Nhow to grow a papaya.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:41.11,0:12:42.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> I'm not telling\Nyou. I'm not
Dialogue: 0,0:12:42.48,0:12:43.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,telling you. I\Nneed your help.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:43.86,0:12:45.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Those of us who live on
Dialogue: 0,0:12:45.45,0:12:47.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the Big Island\Nshould be well aware
Dialogue: 0,0:12:47.55,0:12:51.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that agricultural\Nbiotechnology has
Dialogue: 0,0:12:51.04,0:12:53.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,saved the papaya\Nindustry on this Island.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:53.70,0:12:55.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> It's been reported that
Dialogue: 0,0:12:55.03,0:12:56.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Council Woman Willie plans
Dialogue: 0,0:12:56.80,0:12:58.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to amend the bill further.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:58.20,0:12:59.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> That approach is\Nthe way I've done it,
Dialogue: 0,0:12:59.95,0:13:03.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which is basically\Nto grandfather in;
Dialogue: 0,0:13:03.02,0:13:05.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,number one, the papaya\Nas an industry.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:05.95,0:13:07.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's impractical to just
Dialogue: 0,0:13:07.93,0:13:09.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,say no at this point.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:09.92,0:13:12.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> If they're such\Nhorrible health issues
Dialogue: 0,0:13:12.70,0:13:14.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,related to GMOs,
Dialogue: 0,0:13:14.23,0:13:16.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,why even exempt the\NRainbow Papaya?
Dialogue: 0,0:13:16.03,0:13:17.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Why not try to get\Nit off your Island?
Dialogue: 0,0:13:17.68,0:13:19.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You must have\Nthought about that?
Dialogue: 0,0:13:19.28,0:13:21.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> I did, and\Nthere was a lot of
Dialogue: 0,0:13:21.16,0:13:26.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,criticism of me\Nand my final bill.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:26.14,0:13:28.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> If we as a\Nbody passed this,
Dialogue: 0,0:13:28.66,0:13:30.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it shows that we
Dialogue: 0,0:13:30.97,0:13:33.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,think that all\NGMOs are wrong,
Dialogue: 0,0:13:33.88,0:13:37.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,except this, this,\Nthis, this, this.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:37.56,0:13:39.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> You worry that\NRainbow Papaya
Dialogue: 0,0:13:39.67,0:13:41.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,can cause somebody to have?
Dialogue: 0,0:13:41.34,0:13:44.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> I don't know.\NI have no idea.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:44.29,0:13:47.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> This exempts everyone.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:47.77,0:13:50.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,However, we think\Nit's wrong.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:50.10,0:13:51.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> What's the number one?
Dialogue: 0,0:13:51.52,0:13:54.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> You know what, you\Nkeep focusing on papaya
Dialogue: 0,0:13:54.04,0:13:57.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I exempted it,
Dialogue: 0,0:13:57.34,0:13:59.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so it's like\Nyou're home free.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:59.94,0:14:01.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,At the same time,
Dialogue: 0,0:14:01.88,0:14:04.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I wanted to get\Na bill passed.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:06.87,0:14:09.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> It's done.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:09.22,0:14:11.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> While the\Nevidence presented
Dialogue: 0,0:14:11.20,0:14:12.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,before the Council seems
Dialogue: 0,0:14:12.49,0:14:15.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,strong and scary enough\Nto ban all GMOs,
Dialogue: 0,0:14:15.88,0:14:18.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they exempted the\NRainbow Papaya,
Dialogue: 0,0:14:18.18,0:14:20.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a genetically engineered\Nfix that helped
Dialogue: 0,0:14:20.68,0:14:22.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this cherished crop\Ncome back from
Dialogue: 0,0:14:22.54,0:14:25.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the dead only a\Nshort time ago.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:26.10,0:14:28.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Twenty years ago,
Dialogue: 0,0:14:28.20,0:14:30.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the Big Island\Npapaya industry
Dialogue: 0,0:14:30.32,0:14:31.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,had been thriving.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:31.81,0:14:34.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Growers were shipping\N60 million pounds
Dialogue: 0,0:14:34.66,0:14:36.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of papayas a year.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:36.61,0:14:38.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But then insects began
Dialogue: 0,0:14:38.68,0:14:41.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,spreading a devastating\Nvirus called
Dialogue: 0,0:14:41.18,0:14:42.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,ringspot to
Dialogue: 0,0:14:42.70,0:14:45.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,nearly every papaya\Ntree on the Island.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:45.84,0:14:47.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In about three years,
Dialogue: 0,0:14:47.72,0:14:49.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the trees were dead,
Dialogue: 0,0:14:49.58,0:14:53.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the industry\Nliterally wiped out.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:53.11,0:14:55.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Nothing stopped\Nthe spread.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:55.88,0:14:58.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Not physical barriers,\Nnot pesticides,
Dialogue: 0,0:14:58.74,0:15:00.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,no methods,\Nconventional nor
Dialogue: 0,0:15:00.71,0:15:03.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,organic could\Nhalt the virus.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:04.03,0:15:06.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> As a scientist,
Dialogue: 0,0:15:06.17,0:15:08.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when nothing seems\Nto be working,
Dialogue: 0,0:15:08.34,0:15:09.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you have to think of
Dialogue: 0,0:15:09.60,0:15:13.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,alternative solutions\Nand I had this idea.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:13.92,0:15:17.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The idea of vaccinating
Dialogue: 0,0:15:17.80,0:15:20.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a plant through\Ngenetic engineering.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:20.38,0:15:23.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What we did is; we\Ncook a hypothesis,
Dialogue: 0,0:15:23.62,0:15:26.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we isolated a gene\Nfrom the pathogen,
Dialogue: 0,0:15:26.87,0:15:28.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we cloned the gene
Dialogue: 0,0:15:28.43,0:15:31.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,using recombinant\NDNA technology,
Dialogue: 0,0:15:31.25,0:15:35.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we used a gene\Ngun to introduce
Dialogue: 0,0:15:35.34,0:15:37.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,our cloned genes into
Dialogue: 0,0:15:37.83,0:15:40.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the cells of the papaya,
Dialogue: 0,0:15:40.08,0:15:41.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it doesn't\Nwork the first
Dialogue: 0,0:15:41.64,0:15:43.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,two or three times.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:43.00,0:15:45.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, you have to repeat\Nthese experiments.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:45.92,0:15:49.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It took us several\Nyears of research.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:49.14,0:15:51.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We continue until we are
Dialogue: 0,0:15:51.80,0:15:55.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,satisfied that we have\Nthe correct sequence.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:55.34,0:15:58.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now, this is the\Nscientific method
Dialogue: 0,0:15:58.24,0:16:00.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and you have to\Nverify your results.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:00.88,0:16:04.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Years later, our\Nresults were dramatic.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:04.32,0:16:05.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The non-genetically
Dialogue: 0,0:16:05.66,0:16:07.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,engineered papaya\Nis now growing.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:07.72,0:16:11.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The genetically engineered\Npapaya is growing.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:11.27,0:16:13.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, we concluded that
Dialogue: 0,0:16:13.92,0:16:16.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this genetically\Nengineered papaya that
Dialogue: 0,0:16:16.01,0:16:18.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we had, was resistant.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:18.84,0:16:23.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We released seeds to\Nthe growers for free,
Dialogue: 0,0:16:23.14,0:16:25.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,essentially we saved
Dialogue: 0,0:16:25.83,0:16:29.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the papaya industry.\NThat's it.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:29.79,0:16:33.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Today, the\Nindustry is thriving,
Dialogue: 0,0:16:33.26,0:16:35.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,exporting Rainbow Papaya to
Dialogue: 0,0:16:35.20,0:16:37.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,countries all\Nover the world.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:37.08,0:16:39.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But as more and more people
Dialogue: 0,0:16:39.23,0:16:41.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,enjoy this genetically\Nengineered fruit,
Dialogue: 0,0:16:41.66,0:16:43.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a vocal movement\Nbegan to rise
Dialogue: 0,0:16:43.91,0:16:47.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,up against the very\Nprocess that saved it.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:47.61,0:16:49.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Here they come,
Dialogue: 0,0:16:49.54,0:16:52.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,genetically\Nengineered tomatoes.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:52.22,0:16:54.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> We're creating a\Nwhole new species,
Dialogue: 0,0:16:54.24,0:16:56.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,one that's never existed\Non Earth before.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:56.42,0:16:57.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So some would say,
Dialogue: 0,0:16:57.98,0:17:02.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"You've created a\Nmonster, a Frankenfood."
Dialogue: 0,0:17:02.27,0:17:05.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> These foods can\Ncreate new allergens,
Dialogue: 0,0:17:05.12,0:17:07.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they can make a\Nnontoxic food toxic.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:07.08,0:17:08.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They can lower\Nimmune response.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:08.64,0:17:09.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They do lower nutrition.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:09.98,0:17:11.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> The gap between
Dialogue: 0,0:17:11.45,0:17:13.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the public and science\Non the safety of
Dialogue: 0,0:17:13.97,0:17:16.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,GMOs is the largest gap of
Dialogue: 0,0:17:16.10,0:17:18.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,any politicized\Nscientific topic.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:18.41,0:17:23.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> I have always been\Ncareful not to say
Dialogue: 0,0:17:23.75,0:17:26.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this is dangerous\Nfood and I
Dialogue: 0,0:17:26.46,0:17:29.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,don't believe the\Nfear-mongering has helped.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:29.57,0:17:31.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Okay, good. So\Nit's a good control.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:31.62,0:17:31.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> [inaudible].
Dialogue: 0,0:17:31.92,0:17:33.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> I think it's a really\Nimportant concept
Dialogue: 0,0:17:33.50,0:17:34.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of scientific consensus.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:34.97,0:17:36.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So you never trust
Dialogue: 0,0:17:36.16,0:17:38.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when scientists\Nor one opinion.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:38.40,0:17:40.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You look at the\Nconsensus of
Dialogue: 0,0:17:40.90,0:17:44.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,experts in the field\Nover 20-30 years.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:44.39,0:17:46.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> After 30\Nyears of testing
Dialogue: 0,0:17:46.38,0:17:48.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,every GMO product\Ncurrently on
Dialogue: 0,0:17:48.38,0:17:50.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the market and based\Non the results
Dialogue: 0,0:17:50.21,0:17:52.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of nearly 2,000\Nexperiments,
Dialogue: 0,0:17:52.58,0:17:55.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the foremost scientific\Ninstitutions in
Dialogue: 0,0:17:55.01,0:17:56.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the United States\Nand around
Dialogue: 0,0:17:56.51,0:17:58.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the world have concluded,
Dialogue: 0,0:17:58.31,0:18:00.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,all criticisms\Nagainst GMOs can be
Dialogue: 0,0:18:00.89,0:18:02.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,largely rejected on
Dialogue: 0,0:18:02.18,0:18:04.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,strictly scientific\Ncriteria.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:04.72,0:18:06.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> I don't think
Dialogue: 0,0:18:06.16,0:18:08.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that genetically\Nmodified organisms
Dialogue: 0,0:18:08.06,0:18:09.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are dangerous to consume.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:09.47,0:18:10.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We don't have any evidence
Dialogue: 0,0:18:10.94,0:18:12.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that the products that are
Dialogue: 0,0:18:12.35,0:18:13.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on the market now
Dialogue: 0,0:18:13.46,0:18:15.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,have caused\Nparticular harm.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:15.58,0:18:17.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> No adverse health\Neffects attributed to
Dialogue: 0,0:18:17.66,0:18:19.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,genetic engineering\Nhave been
Dialogue: 0,0:18:19.10,0:18:21.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,documented in the\Nhuman population.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:21.23,0:18:22.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> I looked closely\Nat health and then
Dialogue: 0,0:18:22.88,0:18:25.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I went into\Nenvironmental effects.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:25.74,0:18:29.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I've run out of things\Nto worry about.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:29.61,0:18:31.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> The science\Nis quite clear.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:31.56,0:18:32.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Crop improvement by the
Dialogue: 0,0:18:32.76,0:18:34.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,modern molecular techniques
Dialogue: 0,0:18:34.31,0:18:36.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of biotechnology is safe.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:36.100,0:18:39.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,While each new product\Nshould continue
Dialogue: 0,0:18:39.65,0:18:42.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to be assessed on a\Ncase-by-case basis,
Dialogue: 0,0:18:42.20,0:18:44.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,scientific\Nconsensus tells us
Dialogue: 0,0:18:44.72,0:18:46.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that current GMOs on
Dialogue: 0,0:18:46.10,0:18:47.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the market are safe to
Dialogue: 0,0:18:47.42,0:18:50.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,eat and safe for\Nthe environment.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:56.21,0:18:58.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> There's absolutely
Dialogue: 0,0:18:58.95,0:19:02.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,no proof to a\Nhealth hazard.
Dialogue: 0,0:19:02.16,0:19:06.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We did the research\Nand I stand by it.
Dialogue: 0,0:19:08.27,0:19:12.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We've got to congratulate\NMargaret Wheatley.
Dialogue: 0,0:19:12.62,0:19:16.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We were absolutely\Noutmaneuvered because
Dialogue: 0,0:19:16.52,0:19:18.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,all the time was given to
Dialogue: 0,0:19:18.51,0:19:21.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Jeffrey Smith and he\Nranted and raved.
Dialogue: 0,0:19:21.82,0:19:23.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Eating papaya
Dialogue: 0,0:19:23.02,0:19:24.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that's genetically\Nengineered
Dialogue: 0,0:19:24.73,0:19:28.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,might cause you to\Nget more colds,
Dialogue: 0,0:19:28.14,0:19:29.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a lot more susceptibility
Dialogue: 0,0:19:29.61,0:19:31.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to hepatitis or HIV.
Dialogue: 0,0:19:31.78,0:19:33.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> What Jeffrey\NSmith just said,
Dialogue: 0,0:19:33.48,0:19:35.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was convincing,
Dialogue: 0,0:19:35.13,0:19:39.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if it was true, but\Nliked to scare people.
Dialogue: 0,0:19:39.28,0:19:40.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Jeffrey Smith is
Dialogue: 0,0:19:40.83,0:19:42.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a very innocent-looking\Nperson
Dialogue: 0,0:19:42.84,0:19:45.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and he can say things,
Dialogue: 0,0:19:45.69,0:19:47.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,wild and crazy things
Dialogue: 0,0:19:47.55,0:19:50.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that are astounding to
Dialogue: 0,0:19:50.28,0:19:52.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,hear with a very\Nstraight face.
Dialogue: 0,0:19:52.20,0:19:54.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> We now know that GMOs,
Dialogue: 0,0:19:54.09,0:19:56.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when consumed by\Nhuman beings,
Dialogue: 0,0:19:56.61,0:20:00.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,might switch on or\Nshut off our genes.
Dialogue: 0,0:20:00.60,0:20:02.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's a theoretical\Npossibility
Dialogue: 0,0:20:02.70,0:20:04.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that has never\Nbeen evaluated.
Dialogue: 0,0:20:04.34,0:20:06.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Things like\Nthat. So that's
Dialogue: 0,0:20:06.39,0:20:07.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Jeffrey Smith\Nand I do know he
Dialogue: 0,0:20:07.80,0:20:10.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,has a very wide audience.
Dialogue: 0,0:20:10.31,0:20:12.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Do you consider\Nyourself a scientist?
Dialogue: 0,0:20:12.70,0:20:14.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> I'm not a scientist.
Dialogue: 0,0:20:15.20,0:20:16.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Are you a doctor?
Dialogue: 0,0:20:16.92,0:20:18.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> I'm not a doctor.
Dialogue: 0,0:20:18.60,0:20:20.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Aloha, Mr. Smith.
Dialogue: 0,0:20:20.19,0:20:20.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Aloha.
Dialogue: 0,0:20:20.31,0:20:22.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Is it Dr. Smith?
Dialogue: 0,0:20:22.23,0:20:25.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Jeffrey is fine.\NPeople refer to me as
Dialogue: 0,0:20:25.74,0:20:26.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,doctor all the time and
Dialogue: 0,0:20:26.97,0:20:29.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I, because they\Nget it wrong.
Dialogue: 0,0:20:29.52,0:20:32.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I don't call\Nmyself a doctor.
Dialogue: 0,0:20:32.13,0:20:33.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I don't call myself\Na scientist and
Dialogue: 0,0:20:33.78,0:20:35.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I use my non-scientist,
Dialogue: 0,0:20:35.37,0:20:36.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as to an advantage\Nbecause I
Dialogue: 0,0:20:36.57,0:20:37.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,get to ask a lot of
Dialogue: 0,0:20:37.68,0:20:38.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,dumb questions\Nand hear more
Dialogue: 0,0:20:38.85,0:20:40.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and more people's\Nassumptions,
Dialogue: 0,0:20:40.34,0:20:42.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then I can record them.
Dialogue: 0,0:20:42.52,0:20:44.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> They're very\Nsmart and they were
Dialogue: 0,0:20:44.74,0:20:47.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,clever about\Nmisinforming people.
Dialogue: 0,0:20:47.55,0:20:49.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> There's remarkable\Ncorrelations
Dialogue: 0,0:20:49.14,0:20:49.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,between the use of
Dialogue: 0,0:20:49.98,0:20:52.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,GMO and the rates of\Nautism in America.
Dialogue: 0,0:20:52.48,0:20:54.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> She's showed one slide
Dialogue: 0,0:20:54.03,0:20:55.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,over the past 20\Nyears or something,
Dialogue: 0,0:20:55.41,0:20:57.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the incidence of autism\Nin the United States,
Dialogue: 0,0:20:57.90,0:20:59.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and how they\Nwent up, up, up.
Dialogue: 0,0:20:59.64,0:21:00.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Then she superimposed on
Dialogue: 0,0:21:00.84,0:21:03.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that use of roundup and\Nthen [inaudible] it
Dialogue: 0,0:21:03.84,0:21:04.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was almost exactly a
Dialogue: 0,0:21:04.92,0:21:06.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,perfect match\Nand she said out
Dialogue: 0,0:21:06.36,0:21:07.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,loud that I have
Dialogue: 0,0:21:07.44,0:21:08.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,never seen a better\Ncorrelation.
Dialogue: 0,0:21:08.94,0:21:09.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Remarkable.
Dialogue: 0,0:21:09.27,0:21:09.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I have never seen
Dialogue: 0,0:21:09.87,0:21:11.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,such a good correlation\Ncoefficient
Dialogue: 0,0:21:11.91,0:21:13.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as you see between\Nthose two things.
Dialogue: 0,0:21:13.54,0:21:15.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I think the\Nonly solution
Dialogue: 0,0:21:15.03,0:21:16.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is to go organic.
Dialogue: 0,0:21:16.14,0:21:16.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Thank you.
Dialogue: 0,0:21:16.56,0:21:17.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Then if you look at
Dialogue: 0,0:21:17.48,0:21:18.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,consumption of\Norganic food,
Dialogue: 0,0:21:18.88,0:21:20.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,even a better match.
Dialogue: 0,0:21:20.04,0:21:21.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So there's autism\Nprevalence in
Dialogue: 0,0:21:21.33,0:21:24.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the United States as\Norganic food sales.
Dialogue: 0,0:21:24.98,0:21:25.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> So organic food\Nsales cause autism.
Dialogue: 0,0:21:25.62,0:21:28.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> So I guess food sales\Nmust cause autism.
Dialogue: 0,0:21:28.44,0:21:30.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It became really\Nclear then that
Dialogue: 0,0:21:30.75,0:21:33.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Brenda Ford and\NMargaret Willie
Dialogue: 0,0:21:33.02,0:21:35.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,were not interested\Nin gathering facts.
Dialogue: 0,0:21:35.34,0:21:36.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They were interested in
Dialogue: 0,0:21:36.82,0:21:38.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,getting their fellow
Dialogue: 0,0:21:38.04,0:21:39.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,county council\Npeople scared.
Dialogue: 0,0:21:39.86,0:21:42.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> No one [inaudible]\Na doctor.
Dialogue: 0,0:21:42.82,0:21:45.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> The general nature\Nof these people,
Dialogue: 0,0:21:45.38,0:21:47.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they're probably all\Nvote Democrat like me,
Dialogue: 0,0:21:47.44,0:21:50.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they're left-leaning\Nlike me.
Dialogue: 0,0:21:50.72,0:21:52.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They probably think\Nglobal warming
Dialogue: 0,0:21:52.71,0:21:54.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is a problem, we should\Ntake care of them.
Dialogue: 0,0:21:54.27,0:21:55.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Like me, they probably
Dialogue: 0,0:21:55.66,0:21:58.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,agree with me\Non most things.
Dialogue: 0,0:21:58.73,0:22:00.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> That is another reason
Dialogue: 0,0:22:00.81,0:22:01.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,why this battle over
Dialogue: 0,0:22:01.83,0:22:05.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,GMOs is so complicated\Nand confusing.
Dialogue: 0,0:22:05.18,0:22:07.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Both sides seem\Nto be fighting
Dialogue: 0,0:22:07.36,0:22:09.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for the same\Nworthwhile goals.
Dialogue: 0,0:22:09.87,0:22:13.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Safe, abundant,\Nnutritious food for all.
Dialogue: 0,0:22:13.47,0:22:16.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Three generations\Nagainst GMO. Excellent.
Dialogue: 0,0:22:16.56,0:22:17.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Thank you.
Dialogue: 0,0:22:17.04,0:22:20.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Fewer toxic chemicals\Nused on farms around
Dialogue: 0,0:22:20.13,0:22:25.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the world and a more\Nsustainable food system.
Dialogue: 0,0:22:26.12,0:22:29.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> These are the victors.
Dialogue: 0,0:22:29.22,0:22:31.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In 100 years when they\Nlook back and say,
Dialogue: 0,0:22:31.92,0:22:35.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"How did we save the\Nplanet?" There you go.
Dialogue: 0,0:22:38.12,0:22:41.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> But there are\Nreal-world consequences
Dialogue: 0,0:22:41.28,0:22:42.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to acting against
Dialogue: 0,0:22:42.33,0:22:44.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,scientific consensus\Nthat can be
Dialogue: 0,0:22:44.22,0:22:48.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,felt far beyond the\Nshores of Hawaii.
Dialogue: 0,0:22:52.70,0:22:55.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Now a Hawaiian\Nisland has
Dialogue: 0,0:22:55.23,0:22:56.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,passed a law\Nbanning companies
Dialogue: 0,0:22:56.88,0:22:59.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which produce genetically\Nmodified food
Dialogue: 0,0:22:59.07,0:23:01.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from operating on\Nits territory.
Dialogue: 0,0:23:01.44,0:23:03.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Marin County\Nin California,
Dialogue: 0,0:23:03.45,0:23:06.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a GMO ban was put on\Na ballot and passed.
Dialogue: 0,0:23:06.26,0:23:08.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> I'm not here as an\Nexpert and we all have
Dialogue: 0,0:23:08.92,0:23:10.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the right as Americans to
Dialogue: 0,0:23:10.35,0:23:12.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,know what's in our food.
Dialogue: 0,0:23:12.68,0:23:14.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Vermont passed\Na bill mandating
Dialogue: 0,0:23:14.31,0:23:17.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,genetically modified\Nfoods must be labeled.
Dialogue: 0,0:23:17.05,0:23:18.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> We don't want your GMO.
Dialogue: 0,0:23:18.47,0:23:20.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Scotland is to ban
Dialogue: 0,0:23:20.00,0:23:22.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,genetically modified crops.
Dialogue: 0,0:23:22.47,0:23:25.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> I have come to\Nthe conclusion
Dialogue: 0,0:23:25.16,0:23:27.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that there is a\Njustifiable reason to
Dialogue: 0,0:23:27.03,0:23:29.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,believe that this\Ngenetically modified maize
Dialogue: 0,0:23:29.88,0:23:31.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,presents a danger\Nto the environment.
Dialogue: 0,0:23:31.83,0:23:33.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Growing genetically\Nmodified food
Dialogue: 0,0:23:33.96,0:23:35.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is banned across the EU.
Dialogue: 0,0:23:35.94,0:23:37.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Today, 150,000
Dialogue: 0,0:23:37.71,0:23:39.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,farmers in India\Nhave committed
Dialogue: 0,0:23:39.09,0:23:40.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,suicide in areas where they
Dialogue: 0,0:23:40.77,0:23:42.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,have to buy the\Nseed from Monsanto.
Dialogue: 0,0:23:42.78,0:23:43.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> A devastating
Dialogue: 0,0:23:43.92,0:23:45.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,drought hits\NSouthern Africa.
Dialogue: 0,0:23:45.39,0:23:46.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The American\Ngovernment sent
Dialogue: 0,0:23:46.65,0:23:47.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a shipment of food aid
Dialogue: 0,0:23:47.73,0:23:51.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,containing GM corn and\NZambia refused it.
Dialogue: 0,0:23:51.24,0:23:53.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Available\Ndata shows that
Dialogue: 0,0:23:53.49,0:23:57.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,GMO foods can cause harm,
Dialogue: 0,0:23:57.34,0:24:00.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,making reference to\Nthe Seralini report.
Dialogue: 0,0:24:00.72,0:24:03.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> The government\Nhas decided that
Dialogue: 0,0:24:03.26,0:24:08.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,all GMO food imports\Nare completely banned.
Dialogue: 0,0:24:08.50,0:24:11.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Uganda doesn't\Nneed GMOs.
Dialogue: 0,0:24:14.14,0:24:16.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> The fears and decisions
Dialogue: 0,0:24:16.31,0:24:17.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about GMOs in Hawaii,
Dialogue: 0,0:24:17.98,0:24:20.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,reach all the way to\NUganda in East Africa,
Dialogue: 0,0:24:20.74,0:24:22.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where bananas, similar
Dialogue: 0,0:24:22.58,0:24:23.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to the Hawaiian papaya,
Dialogue: 0,0:24:23.93,0:24:25.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are threatened to be wiped
Dialogue: 0,0:24:25.31,0:24:27.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,out by a terrible disease.
Dialogue: 0,0:24:27.60,0:24:29.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Most bananas in this
Dialogue: 0,0:24:29.21,0:24:30.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,region are now faced with
Dialogue: 0,0:24:30.62,0:24:33.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the worst bacterial\Ndisease so far,
Dialogue: 0,0:24:33.10,0:24:35.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,known as banana\NXanthomonas wilt.
Dialogue: 0,0:24:35.08,0:24:37.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> The disease has had\Na devastating impact
Dialogue: 0,0:24:37.37,0:24:38.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on banana cultivation,
Dialogue: 0,0:24:38.66,0:24:47.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,forcing some farmers\Nto abandon their crop.
Dialogue: 0,0:24:47.44,0:24:50.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> [inaudible]
Dialogue: 0,0:24:50.13,0:24:51.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Currently, nearly half
Dialogue: 0,0:24:51.27,0:24:52.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of all banana plants in
Dialogue: 0,0:24:52.44,0:24:55.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Uganda have been wiped\Nout by banana wilt,
Dialogue: 0,0:24:55.22,0:24:56.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,threatening the\Nfood security
Dialogue: 0,0:24:56.94,0:24:59.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of 14 million Ugandans,
Dialogue: 0,0:24:59.12,0:25:01.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,more than a third\Nof the population.
Dialogue: 0,0:25:20.78,0:25:23.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Many farmers\Nrealized there was
Dialogue: 0,0:25:23.34,0:25:25.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a strange disease\Nwiping out bananas.
Dialogue: 0,0:25:25.28,0:25:27.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We did not know how\Nto go about it,
Dialogue: 0,0:25:27.30,0:25:29.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but to cut down\Ninfected plants.
Dialogue: 0,0:25:29.54,0:25:31.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But the diseases\Nkept on spreading.
Dialogue: 0,0:25:31.56,0:25:34.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> That is poverty.\NThat is famine.
Dialogue: 0,0:25:34.96,0:25:38.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> My name is [inaudible].
Dialogue: 0,0:25:38.07,0:25:40.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I practice integrated\Norganic farming.
Dialogue: 0,0:25:40.65,0:25:43.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I also teach farmers\Nhow to do the same.
Dialogue: 0,0:25:43.28,0:25:45.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Right now banana wilt\Nis not affecting me,
Dialogue: 0,0:25:45.63,0:25:48.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but it has affected\Nmany people.
Dialogue: 0,0:25:48.70,0:25:50.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Banana bacterial\Nwilt can spread from
Dialogue: 0,0:25:50.46,0:25:52.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,one farm to another\Nat any time.
Dialogue: 0,0:25:52.70,0:25:55.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's why I teach\Nthese farmers.
Dialogue: 0,0:25:55.41,0:25:57.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> They'll never\Nget any disease,
Dialogue: 0,0:25:57.34,0:25:58.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like banana wilt\Nor something.
Dialogue: 0,0:25:58.95,0:26:01.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> My dear, you have\Nto guard against it.
Dialogue: 0,0:26:01.16,0:26:02.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Don't let people come\Ninto your garden.
Dialogue: 0,0:26:02.79,0:26:04.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Don't share tools.
Dialogue: 0,0:26:04.11,0:26:06.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Like you see that\Nis a tool rack.
Dialogue: 0,0:26:06.09,0:26:08.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,All the tools we will\Nuse in this garden,
Dialogue: 0,0:26:08.19,0:26:10.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we never use them\Nanywhere else.
Dialogue: 0,0:26:10.08,0:26:13.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If you must, you disinfect.
Dialogue: 0,0:26:14.33,0:26:17.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,All these are\Npreventive measures.
Dialogue: 0,0:26:17.14,0:26:20.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They're not really\Ncurative measures.
Dialogue: 0,0:26:58.17,0:26:59.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> [inaudible]
Dialogue: 0,0:26:59.27,0:27:01.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> She could not get\Nfood for herself or for
Dialogue: 0,0:27:01.21,0:27:04.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,her family, so\Nshe's devastated.
Dialogue: 0,0:27:15.48,0:27:16.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> [inaudible]
Dialogue: 0,0:27:16.58,0:27:17.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Once someone has hit,
Dialogue: 0,0:27:17.95,0:27:19.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you have to just cut down,
Dialogue: 0,0:27:19.16,0:27:21.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,burn and wait for\Nmaybe six months to
Dialogue: 0,0:27:21.19,0:27:24.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a year for it to get\Nout of the garden.
Dialogue: 0,0:27:29.16,0:27:30.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> [inaudible]
Dialogue: 0,0:27:30.36,0:27:33.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> I would call it the\NEbola of the banana.
Dialogue: 0,0:27:33.08,0:27:38.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It comes and wipes away\Nthe whole plantation.
Dialogue: 0,0:27:39.09,0:27:42.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> To fight the devastation\Nof banana wilt,
Dialogue: 0,0:27:42.18,0:27:45.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,scientists in Uganda and\NKenya are working on
Dialogue: 0,0:27:45.10,0:27:46.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a genetically\Nengineered fix
Dialogue: 0,0:27:46.80,0:27:48.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,similar to what was done
Dialogue: 0,0:27:48.10,0:27:49.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in Hawaii with Papaya.
Dialogue: 0,0:27:49.84,0:27:51.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Except their work is
Dialogue: 0,0:27:51.28,0:27:53.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,done behind the locked gate
Dialogue: 0,0:27:53.00,0:27:54.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and is currently prohibited
Dialogue: 0,0:27:54.60,0:27:57.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from being released\Nto public.
Dialogue: 0,0:27:58.23,0:28:00.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Hi, I'm Leena Tripathi.
Dialogue: 0,0:28:00.88,0:28:03.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm leading the Transgenic\NResearch in IATA
Dialogue: 0,0:28:03.28,0:28:04.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and my focus is on
Dialogue: 0,0:28:04.45,0:28:05.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,disease and pest\Nresistance.
Dialogue: 0,0:28:05.86,0:28:08.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So we find out\Nthat there are
Dialogue: 0,0:28:08.05,0:28:10.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,some resistance genes\Nin sweet pepper.
Dialogue: 0,0:28:10.87,0:28:13.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,These are the genes we\Nare using to transfer
Dialogue: 0,0:28:13.12,0:28:15.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,resistance from sweet\Npepper to banana.
Dialogue: 0,0:28:15.85,0:28:20.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> You must be\Naware of people,
Dialogue: 0,0:28:20.12,0:28:21.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they don't what you are
Dialogue: 0,0:28:21.25,0:28:23.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,doing to reach\Nfarmers because
Dialogue: 0,0:28:23.89,0:28:29.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they think your work\Nis against humanity.
Dialogue: 0,0:28:32.43,0:28:34.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> This message\Nis brought to
Dialogue: 0,0:28:34.81,0:28:36.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you by ActionAid Uganda.
Dialogue: 0,0:28:36.68,0:28:37.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Did you know that
Dialogue: 0,0:28:37.78,0:28:40.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,genetically modified\Norganisms pose
Dialogue: 0,0:28:40.00,0:28:41.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,health risks\Nsuch as cancer,
Dialogue: 0,0:28:41.95,0:28:43.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,infertility, etc.
Dialogue: 0,0:28:43.90,0:28:46.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> [inaudible] is\Nabout rats getting
Dialogue: 0,0:28:46.69,0:28:48.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,cancer due to GMOs
Dialogue: 0,0:28:48.72,0:28:50.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,definitely didn't scare me.
Dialogue: 0,0:28:50.96,0:28:52.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Even in Africa,
Dialogue: 0,0:28:52.72,0:28:55.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,fear of GMOs is\Nbeing fueled by
Dialogue: 0,0:28:55.29,0:28:58.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a discredited study\Non tumor prone rats.
Dialogue: 0,0:28:58.89,0:29:01.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Here's a picture of\Nsome of these rats.
Dialogue: 0,0:29:01.58,0:29:03.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So carefully, how can
Dialogue: 0,0:29:03.81,0:29:05.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it be this information\Nis being ignored?
Dialogue: 0,0:29:05.56,0:29:08.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> They've got bad science\Ndown to a science.
Dialogue: 0,0:29:08.12,0:29:09.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> How do people see
Dialogue: 0,0:29:09.18,0:29:10.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the pictures of the rats?
Dialogue: 0,0:29:10.56,0:29:12.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's not enough. You've got
Dialogue: 0,0:29:12.33,0:29:13.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to see these tumors.
Dialogue: 0,0:29:13.83,0:29:16.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> A study by\NGilles-Eric Seralini
Dialogue: 0,0:29:16.06,0:29:17.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,showing rats with GMOs.
Dialogue: 0,0:29:17.55,0:29:18.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Enormous\Neffects on people.
Dialogue: 0,0:29:18.69,0:29:20.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This one image was\Nreally responsible for
Dialogue: 0,0:29:20.88,0:29:23.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the GM in full band\Nhere in Kenya.
Dialogue: 0,0:29:23.26,0:29:26.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Making reference to\Nthe Seralini report.
Dialogue: 0,0:29:26.73,0:29:28.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> The infamous\NSeralini study,
Dialogue: 0,0:29:28.74,0:29:31.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so this is a study\Nwhere a scientist,
Dialogue: 0,0:29:31.56,0:29:34.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and he said, "I have\Nrats that have cancer."
Dialogue: 0,0:29:34.44,0:29:35.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yeah, he had a\Npress conference,
Dialogue: 0,0:29:35.73,0:29:36.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but he demanded that
Dialogue: 0,0:29:36.81,0:29:38.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,no scientists be there
Dialogue: 0,0:29:38.22,0:29:39.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to question his results.
Dialogue: 0,0:29:39.94,0:29:42.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> If you look\Nclosely at the study,
Dialogue: 0,0:29:42.19,0:29:45.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Seralini used a strain\Nof rats that are
Dialogue: 0,0:29:45.07,0:29:46.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,prone to develop tumors
Dialogue: 0,0:29:46.78,0:29:48.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,no matter what they eat.
Dialogue: 0,0:29:48.64,0:29:51.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> The conclusions that\Nwere drawn could not
Dialogue: 0,0:29:51.85,0:29:55.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,be warranted by the\Ndata was obtained.
Dialogue: 0,0:29:55.62,0:29:57.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> From everything\NI've read,
Dialogue: 0,0:29:57.04,0:29:58.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there are serious issues
Dialogue: 0,0:29:58.60,0:29:59.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with the Seralini study.
Dialogue: 0,0:29:59.68,0:30:01.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I've talked to\Npeople I respect to
Dialogue: 0,0:30:01.54,0:30:03.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,look at the science\Nand say statistically,
Dialogue: 0,0:30:03.55,0:30:05.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this is actually\Ndoesn't hold up.
Dialogue: 0,0:30:05.84,0:30:08.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> The paper was retracted.
Dialogue: 0,0:30:08.04,0:30:10.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Every scientist\Naround the world who
Dialogue: 0,0:30:10.39,0:30:11.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,looked at it said
Dialogue: 0,0:30:11.40,0:30:13.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that the data\Nwas inadequate.
Dialogue: 0,0:30:13.03,0:30:15.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Even though\NSeralini's paper
Dialogue: 0,0:30:15.70,0:30:16.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was retracted,
Dialogue: 0,0:30:16.88,0:30:19.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they effect of publishing
Dialogue: 0,0:30:19.06,0:30:22.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the original paper still
Dialogue: 0,0:30:22.03,0:30:25.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,lingers and lingers\Nand lingers,
Dialogue: 0,0:30:25.50,0:30:26.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it's going to take a
Dialogue: 0,0:30:26.77,0:30:29.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,long time to go away.
Dialogue: 0,0:30:35.49,0:30:38.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> It's much\Neasier to solve
Dialogue: 0,0:30:38.05,0:30:39.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,fear than it is science.
Dialogue: 0,0:30:39.76,0:30:41.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think we need to\Ntalk about science and
Dialogue: 0,0:30:41.62,0:30:43.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,discuss these\Nthings in the open.
Dialogue: 0,0:30:43.64,0:30:44.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Hi.
Dialogue: 0,0:30:44.41,0:30:45.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Hi. I'm Alston,
Dialogue: 0,0:30:45.55,0:30:46.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm a professor at
Dialogue: 0,0:30:46.36,0:30:48.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,University of\NCalifornia in Davis.
Dialogue: 0,0:30:48.36,0:30:49.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Don't you think putting
Dialogue: 0,0:30:49.57,0:30:50.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,all these chemicals in
Dialogue: 0,0:30:50.71,0:30:53.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,our food and our animals\Nthis is dangerous?
Dialogue: 0,0:30:53.78,0:30:56.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Well, this\Nparticular sign
Dialogue: 0,0:30:56.95,0:30:58.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think is referring
Dialogue: 0,0:30:58.28,0:31:00.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to the Seralini rat study,
Dialogue: 0,0:31:00.07,0:31:01.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm guessing and it's being
Dialogue: 0,0:31:01.72,0:31:03.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,attracted from the\Nscientific literature.
Dialogue: 0,0:31:03.88,0:31:05.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> This topic of GMOs
Dialogue: 0,0:31:05.35,0:31:07.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is a bit like playing\Nwhack-a-mole.
Dialogue: 0,0:31:07.63,0:31:08.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So there's always
Dialogue: 0,0:31:08.59,0:31:09.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,different issues\Nthat pop up.
Dialogue: 0,0:31:09.97,0:31:12.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> That over 250,000 Indian
Dialogue: 0,0:31:12.37,0:31:13.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,farmers in
Dialogue: 0,0:31:13.45,0:31:14.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the last 10 years or so
Dialogue: 0,0:31:14.98,0:31:16.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,have committed suicide.
Dialogue: 0,0:31:16.34,0:31:18.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> One of the issues\Nthat pops up quite a lot
Dialogue: 0,0:31:18.25,0:31:20.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is the farmer\Nsuicides in India.
Dialogue: 0,0:31:20.53,0:31:22.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> The farmer\Nsuicides, I mean,
Dialogue: 0,0:31:22.24,0:31:22.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I know I've looked
Dialogue: 0,0:31:22.99,0:31:24.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,at the scientific\Nliterature
Dialogue: 0,0:31:24.07,0:31:25.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on that and there are
Dialogue: 0,0:31:25.28,0:31:27.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,reports that show\Nthat there has
Dialogue: 0,0:31:27.07,0:31:29.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,been an increase in\Nfarmer suicides.
Dialogue: 0,0:31:29.10,0:31:30.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> When you\Nactually look at
Dialogue: 0,0:31:30.19,0:31:31.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the data around that,
Dialogue: 0,0:31:31.42,0:31:32.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the rate of suicide
Dialogue: 0,0:31:32.77,0:31:33.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,before the introduction of
Dialogue: 0,0:31:33.82,0:31:36.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,GM crops and after\Nhasn't changed.
Dialogue: 0,0:31:36.64,0:31:38.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's a matter of debt\Nand it's not actually
Dialogue: 0,0:31:38.89,0:31:41.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,associated with the\Nuse of GM technology.
Dialogue: 0,0:31:41.62,0:31:43.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's really confusing
Dialogue: 0,0:31:43.75,0:31:45.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,causation and correlation.
Dialogue: 0,0:31:45.67,0:31:47.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> I was wondering\Nif there's
Dialogue: 0,0:31:47.11,0:31:48.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,any application of
Dialogue: 0,0:31:48.34,0:31:51.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,GMOs that would\Nbe supportive.
Dialogue: 0,0:31:51.10,0:31:52.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So for example, if
Dialogue: 0,0:31:52.45,0:31:54.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a developing\Ncountry developed
Dialogue: 0,0:31:54.31,0:31:56.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,its own insect resistant
Dialogue: 0,0:31:56.10,0:31:59.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or disease resistant\Ncassava, for example.
Dialogue: 0,0:31:59.29,0:32:01.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Developed by the researchers\Nin that country,
Dialogue: 0,0:32:01.99,0:32:03.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,not associated\Nwith Monsanto or
Dialogue: 0,0:32:03.85,0:32:05.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,any company and gave
Dialogue: 0,0:32:05.71,0:32:11.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that to the people\Nto use. [inaudible]
Dialogue: 0,0:32:11.47,0:32:12.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Definitely we will\Nlook at all that and I
Dialogue: 0,0:32:12.88,0:32:15.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,appreciate your\Nfeedback on this.
Dialogue: 0,0:32:15.28,0:32:17.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> I'm happy to talk\Nto you. I guess
Dialogue: 0,0:32:17.06,0:32:18.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what frustrates\Nme is I think
Dialogue: 0,0:32:18.67,0:32:21.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this technology has\Npotential and yet it gets
Dialogue: 0,0:32:21.58,0:32:23.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,mixed up with a lot\Nof other concerns
Dialogue: 0,0:32:23.50,0:32:25.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about multinational\Ncontrol.
Dialogue: 0,0:32:25.18,0:32:27.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Maybe it's\Nnot an add all.
Dialogue: 0,0:32:27.07,0:32:29.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> I agree, can\Nwe agree on that.
Dialogue: 0,0:32:29.06,0:32:30.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> All right.
Dialogue: 0,0:32:30.19,0:32:31.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Here's [inaudible]\NIt was nice
Dialogue: 0,0:32:31.72,0:32:32.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,talking with you ladies.
Dialogue: 0,0:32:32.80,0:32:33.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> I appreciate it.
Dialogue: 0,0:32:33.58,0:32:34.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Okay.
Dialogue: 0,0:32:34.27,0:32:35.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Thanks Alston.
Dialogue: 0,0:32:35.23,0:32:35.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Bye bye.
Dialogue: 0,0:32:35.59,0:32:36.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Bye bye.
Dialogue: 0,0:32:36.10,0:32:37.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> I wish that\Nwe could have
Dialogue: 0,0:32:37.54,0:32:39.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a discussion about\Nwhat really is
Dialogue: 0,0:32:39.16,0:32:40.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it concerns people\Nrather than trying
Dialogue: 0,0:32:40.93,0:32:43.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to scare the bejesus\Nout of people.
Dialogue: 0,0:32:43.58,0:32:46.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> The protests\Nare spreading.
Dialogue: 0,0:32:46.16,0:32:47.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> I hate the\NBritish government,
Dialogue: 0,0:32:47.53,0:32:48.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I hate the American\Ngovernment.
Dialogue: 0,0:32:48.67,0:32:50.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But this is about money,\Nthis is about power.
Dialogue: 0,0:32:50.56,0:32:51.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Corporate greed.
Dialogue: 0,0:32:51.56,0:32:53.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Corruption,\Nmoney, and politics.
Dialogue: 0,0:32:53.56,0:32:57.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> All they create is\Nmoney for themselves.
Dialogue: 0,0:32:57.86,0:33:02.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> From oil companies\Ndenying climate change.
Dialogue: 0,0:33:02.55,0:33:07.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Tobacco scientist saying\Ncigarettes are safe.
Dialogue: 0,0:33:07.83,0:33:10.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,To the pharmaceutical\Nindustry
Dialogue: 0,0:33:10.48,0:33:12.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sometimes\Novercharging us for
Dialogue: 0,0:33:12.25,0:33:13.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,drugs we don't need.
Dialogue: 0,0:33:13.75,0:33:15.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Corporate greed and bias
Dialogue: 0,0:33:15.89,0:33:18.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,have broken the\Npublic trust.
Dialogue: 0,0:33:18.42,0:33:21.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> People won't take
Dialogue: 0,0:33:21.50,0:33:23.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what scientists\Nsay on trust,
Dialogue: 0,0:33:23.47,0:33:24.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what governments\Nsay on trust.
Dialogue: 0,0:33:24.73,0:33:25.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We all think that
Dialogue: 0,0:33:25.51,0:33:27.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there's some\Ncorporate influence.
Dialogue: 0,0:33:27.95,0:33:30.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That the Monsanto are
Dialogue: 0,0:33:30.07,0:33:30.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the ones who are really
Dialogue: 0,0:33:30.97,0:33:31.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,running the share end.
Dialogue: 0,0:33:31.99,0:33:33.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There's good reasons\Nwhy people don't
Dialogue: 0,0:33:33.52,0:33:36.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,trust corporations\Nto run things.
Dialogue: 0,0:33:56.85,0:33:59.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Monsanto is one of
Dialogue: 0,0:33:59.05,0:34:01.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the most hated\Ncompanies in the world.
Dialogue: 0,0:34:01.39,0:34:03.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,How did that happen?
Dialogue: 0,0:34:03.08,0:34:05.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In the early history\Nas a chemical company,
Dialogue: 0,0:34:05.71,0:34:07.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they manufactured\Nseveral products
Dialogue: 0,0:34:07.75,0:34:08.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that turned out to
Dialogue: 0,0:34:08.65,0:34:09.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,have unintended health and
Dialogue: 0,0:34:09.97,0:34:11.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,environmental consequences.
Dialogue: 0,0:34:11.56,0:34:13.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,To combat malaria-transmitting\Nmosquitoes
Dialogue: 0,0:34:13.81,0:34:15.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,during World War II,
Dialogue: 0,0:34:15.02,0:34:16.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Monsanto and\Nother companies
Dialogue: 0,0:34:16.62,0:34:18.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,manufactured DDT,
Dialogue: 0,0:34:18.40,0:34:21.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which helped save\Nmillions of lives.
Dialogue: 0,0:34:21.96,0:34:24.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But as environmental\Nauthor,
Dialogue: 0,0:34:24.73,0:34:26.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Rachel Carson, pointed out
Dialogue: 0,0:34:26.10,0:34:27.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in her landmark book,
Dialogue: 0,0:34:27.28,0:34:30.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Silent Spring, there\Nwere hidden dangers with
Dialogue: 0,0:34:30.40,0:34:32.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the toxicity and overuse
Dialogue: 0,0:34:32.11,0:34:34.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of DDT and other chemicals.
Dialogue: 0,0:34:34.27,0:34:36.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Monsanto was also one
Dialogue: 0,0:34:36.28,0:34:38.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of nine companies\Ncommissioned by
Dialogue: 0,0:34:38.08,0:34:40.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the US military to\Nmake Agent Orange
Dialogue: 0,0:34:40.82,0:34:42.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to help clear\Naway the jungle
Dialogue: 0,0:34:42.34,0:34:43.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,during the Vietnam War.
Dialogue: 0,0:34:43.78,0:34:45.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But it contaminated\Nsoil and
Dialogue: 0,0:34:45.94,0:34:47.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,water and was linked to
Dialogue: 0,0:34:47.47,0:34:50.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a variety of birth defects.
Dialogue: 0,0:34:50.37,0:34:53.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,With the public\Nrightly questioning
Dialogue: 0,0:34:53.08,0:34:55.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the overuse of toxic\Nchemicals in farming,
Dialogue: 0,0:34:55.78,0:34:58.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Monsanto look towards\Na new technology,
Dialogue: 0,0:34:58.60,0:35:00.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,genetic engineering,
Dialogue: 0,0:35:00.01,0:35:01.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to help farmers in
Dialogue: 0,0:35:01.21,0:35:02.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the timeless struggle
Dialogue: 0,0:35:02.44,0:35:04.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,against weeds and insects.
Dialogue: 0,0:35:04.44,0:35:06.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,To help recoup the\Nbillions of dollars
Dialogue: 0,0:35:06.52,0:35:08.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,spent developing\Nthis technology,
Dialogue: 0,0:35:08.52,0:35:11.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Monsanto focused on\Ncommodity crops,
Dialogue: 0,0:35:11.28,0:35:14.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,patenting seeds for\Ncorn, soy and cotton.
Dialogue: 0,0:35:14.65,0:35:17.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,While they helped\Ninvent the technology,
Dialogue: 0,0:35:17.02,0:35:18.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they didn't invent patents.
Dialogue: 0,0:35:18.89,0:35:21.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Almost every\Nagricultural advance in
Dialogue: 0,0:35:21.37,0:35:24.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,both conventional\Nand organic farming
Dialogue: 0,0:35:24.14,0:35:26.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,has a patent behind it.
Dialogue: 0,0:35:26.50,0:35:29.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The first GMO Monsanto
Dialogue: 0,0:35:29.26,0:35:31.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,introduced was\Nto help farmers
Dialogue: 0,0:35:31.09,0:35:33.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,protect their crops\Nfrom insects by using
Dialogue: 0,0:35:33.52,0:35:35.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the naturally\Noccurring insecticide
Dialogue: 0,0:35:35.54,0:35:37.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,known as Bt.
Dialogue: 0,0:35:37.21,0:35:40.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Bt, Bacillus\Nthuringiensis
Dialogue: 0,0:35:40.06,0:35:42.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is a bacterial disease\Nof caterpillars.
Dialogue: 0,0:35:42.97,0:35:45.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Organic farmers use\Nthat, we you use that.
Dialogue: 0,0:35:45.86,0:35:48.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> By Monsanto engineering
Dialogue: 0,0:35:48.25,0:35:50.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the Bt into the seed,
Dialogue: 0,0:35:50.32,0:35:53.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the need for spraying\Nwas greatly reduced.
Dialogue: 0,0:35:53.78,0:35:57.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Bt crops have\Nreduced insecticide use
Dialogue: 0,0:35:57.91,0:35:59.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,tenfold in the United\NStates and have
Dialogue: 0,0:35:59.68,0:36:02.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,had huge impact in\Ndeveloping countries.
Dialogue: 0,0:36:04.17,0:36:06.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> The other GMO Monsanto
Dialogue: 0,0:36:06.52,0:36:08.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,introduced helped\Nfarmers control
Dialogue: 0,0:36:08.62,0:36:10.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,weeds by providing seeds
Dialogue: 0,0:36:10.24,0:36:12.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,tolerant to their\Nherbicide glyphosate,
Dialogue: 0,0:36:12.44,0:36:13.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,also known as Roundup.
Dialogue: 0,0:36:13.92,0:36:15.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,These seeds became known
Dialogue: 0,0:36:15.22,0:36:17.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as roundup ready seeds.
Dialogue: 0,0:36:17.42,0:36:19.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They could be sprayed\Nwith Roundup,
Dialogue: 0,0:36:19.16,0:36:20.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which would kill the weeds
Dialogue: 0,0:36:20.54,0:36:22.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but not harm the crops.
Dialogue: 0,0:36:22.64,0:36:26.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Let me tell\Nyou how overjoyed
Dialogue: 0,0:36:26.11,0:36:27.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we were when
Dialogue: 0,0:36:27.76,0:36:29.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Roundup Ready seeds\Nbecome available.
Dialogue: 0,0:36:29.74,0:36:33.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was a gift from God.
Dialogue: 0,0:36:33.30,0:36:35.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was that bigger deal.
Dialogue: 0,0:36:35.26,0:36:37.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> With the GM technology,
Dialogue: 0,0:36:37.03,0:36:38.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I saved so much.
Dialogue: 0,0:36:38.46,0:36:40.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I managed to send\Nmy son to school.
Dialogue: 0,0:36:40.96,0:36:42.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He has a degree today.
Dialogue: 0,0:36:42.58,0:36:44.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He graduated last year.
Dialogue: 0,0:36:44.66,0:36:46.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Most of the money came from
Dialogue: 0,0:36:46.93,0:36:49.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the GM technology produce.
Dialogue: 0,0:36:49.30,0:36:52.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Both Bt and Roundup\NReady GMOs became
Dialogue: 0,0:36:52.63,0:36:54.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,huge successes and\Nare currently being
Dialogue: 0,0:36:54.88,0:36:57.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,used by over 90\Npercent of corn,
Dialogue: 0,0:36:57.52,0:36:59.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,soy and cotton farmers in
Dialogue: 0,0:36:59.35,0:37:01.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the United States and\Naround the world.
Dialogue: 0,0:37:01.92,0:37:04.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,With this success,\NMonsanto made
Dialogue: 0,0:37:04.90,0:37:08.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and continues to make\Nbillions of dollars.
Dialogue: 0,0:37:08.29,0:37:10.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> They came up with\Na trick and so now
Dialogue: 0,0:37:10.84,0:37:13.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you can spray as much\Nherbicide as you want.
Dialogue: 0,0:37:13.21,0:37:14.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Good for the\Ncompany, they sell
Dialogue: 0,0:37:14.92,0:37:17.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the seeds and they\Nsell their herbicides.
Dialogue: 0,0:37:17.29,0:37:19.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> These war criminals who
Dialogue: 0,0:37:19.63,0:37:22.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,became poison criminals and
Dialogue: 0,0:37:22.18,0:37:24.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are now GMO criminals.
Dialogue: 0,0:37:24.55,0:37:26.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> This brings us to one of
Dialogue: 0,0:37:26.35,0:37:28.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the major questions\Nin this debate.
Dialogue: 0,0:37:28.42,0:37:30.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Have GMO technologies like
Dialogue: 0,0:37:30.52,0:37:33.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Bt and Roundup\NReady increased
Dialogue: 0,0:37:33.08,0:37:36.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or decreased the use\Nof harmful pesticides?
Dialogue: 0,0:37:36.26,0:37:39.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Agricultural Economist,\NCharles Benbrook,
Dialogue: 0,0:37:39.22,0:37:41.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,authored a landmark\Nstudy on the subject of
Dialogue: 0,0:37:41.50,0:37:43.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,GMO crops and\Npesticide use.
Dialogue: 0,0:37:43.74,0:37:46.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> This technology\Nled farmers
Dialogue: 0,0:37:46.69,0:37:50.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,down a path that\Nnow requires
Dialogue: 0,0:37:50.04,0:37:54.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,more pesticides by far\Nthan what they did
Dialogue: 0,0:37:54.10,0:37:56.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in 1996 when
Dialogue: 0,0:37:56.11,0:37:58.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the technology was\Nfirst adopted.
Dialogue: 0,0:37:58.56,0:38:00.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> There's a lot of\Ndiscussion about
Dialogue: 0,0:38:00.25,0:38:01.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,whether the amount of
Dialogue: 0,0:38:01.68,0:38:03.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,herbicides or\Npesticides have
Dialogue: 0,0:38:03.10,0:38:05.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,increased with the\Nadvance in GM crops.
Dialogue: 0,0:38:05.16,0:38:07.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Some other people, Dr.
Dialogue: 0,0:38:07.57,0:38:09.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Benbrook would\Nbe one example,
Dialogue: 0,0:38:09.31,0:38:12.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'll say, well, pesticide\Nuse is gone up.
Dialogue: 0,0:38:12.49,0:38:13.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Then he gives you
Dialogue: 0,0:38:13.84,0:38:15.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,their statistics for\Nthe use of Roundup.
Dialogue: 0,0:38:15.54,0:38:18.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The amount of pesticides\Nis beside the point.
Dialogue: 0,0:38:18.61,0:38:20.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The question is, are\Nthey more harmful?
Dialogue: 0,0:38:20.74,0:38:21.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Are they more dangerous?
Dialogue: 0,0:38:21.90,0:38:22.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Again, to point out
Dialogue: 0,0:38:22.72,0:38:23.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the glyphosate, of course,
Dialogue: 0,0:38:23.74,0:38:25.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,has very low toxicity,
Dialogue: 0,0:38:25.30,0:38:27.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,lower than\Ncaffeine or salt.
Dialogue: 0,0:38:27.12,0:38:28.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Ironically, because of
Dialogue: 0,0:38:28.99,0:38:30.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the more harmful herbicides
Dialogue: 0,0:38:30.67,0:38:32.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,glyphosate replaced,
Dialogue: 0,0:38:32.16,0:38:36.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,pounds up doesn't\Nequal toxicity up.
Dialogue: 0,0:38:36.24,0:38:38.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> I often tell people,
Dialogue: 0,0:38:38.52,0:38:40.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the people fierce in
Dialogue: 0,0:38:40.21,0:38:41.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,attacking GES\Nsaid, you know,
Dialogue: 0,0:38:41.62,0:38:43.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if you want and you
Dialogue: 0,0:38:43.26,0:38:45.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,succeeded in banning\Nthis technology,
Dialogue: 0,0:38:45.64,0:38:48.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,let's say you\Ngot your dream.
Dialogue: 0,0:38:48.26,0:38:50.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Where would we be? Well, we
Dialogue: 0,0:38:50.14,0:38:52.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,would be back to 1996.
Dialogue: 0,0:38:52.18,0:38:53.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This was not a golden age
Dialogue: 0,0:38:53.41,0:38:54.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in American agriculture.
Dialogue: 0,0:38:54.92,0:38:56.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> The weights are\Nstill going to grow.
Dialogue: 0,0:38:56.66,0:38:59.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So you got to do something\Nabout the weights.
Dialogue: 0,0:38:59.04,0:39:00.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We probably go back to
Dialogue: 0,0:39:00.85,0:39:02.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the more toxic ones\Nthat were being
Dialogue: 0,0:39:02.59,0:39:04.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,used prior to the adoption
Dialogue: 0,0:39:04.26,0:39:06.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of roundup ready crops.
Dialogue: 0,0:39:06.80,0:39:09.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> If you look\Nto the details
Dialogue: 0,0:39:09.13,0:39:11.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,past page 1 of\NBenbrook's study,
Dialogue: 0,0:39:11.67,0:39:13.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,even he acknowledges\Nmore benefits
Dialogue: 0,0:39:13.98,0:39:16.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,than dangers from\Nthese technologies.
Dialogue: 0,0:39:16.64,0:39:19.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In light of its\Ngenerally favorable
Dialogue: 0,0:39:19.08,0:39:21.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,environmental and\Ntoxicological properties,
Dialogue: 0,0:39:21.51,0:39:23.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,especially compared\Nto some of
Dialogue: 0,0:39:23.04,0:39:25.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the herbicides displaced\Nby glyphosate,
Dialogue: 0,0:39:25.30,0:39:26.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the dramatic increase in
Dialogue: 0,0:39:26.61,0:39:28.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,glyphosate use has likely
Dialogue: 0,0:39:28.23,0:39:31.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,not marketly increased\Nhuman health risks.
Dialogue: 0,0:39:31.43,0:39:33.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So when all the data\Nare considered,
Dialogue: 0,0:39:33.84,0:39:36.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,GMO technologies\Nlike Bt and
Dialogue: 0,0:39:36.19,0:39:38.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Roundup Ready\Nhave decreased
Dialogue: 0,0:39:38.05,0:39:40.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the use of harmful\Npesticides.
Dialogue: 0,0:39:40.20,0:39:42.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Simply put,\Ntheir net impact
Dialogue: 0,0:39:42.68,0:39:44.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is better for\Nthe environment.
Dialogue: 0,0:39:44.64,0:39:46.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> It's very difficult
Dialogue: 0,0:39:46.15,0:39:47.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to pay Monsanto\Na compliment.
Dialogue: 0,0:39:47.95,0:39:49.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's like praising\Nwitchcraft.
Dialogue: 0,0:39:49.00,0:39:50.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,People can't imagine that
Dialogue: 0,0:39:50.59,0:39:51.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that company could ever do
Dialogue: 0,0:39:51.73,0:39:53.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,anything which would\Nbenefit the environment,
Dialogue: 0,0:39:53.41,0:39:56.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but that's what's happened.
Dialogue: 0,0:39:58.08,0:39:59.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Attacked [inaudible] ,
Dialogue: 0,0:39:59.80,0:40:02.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the new GMO pesticide\Narms race doctors
Dialogue: 0,0:40:02.89,0:40:04.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are warning against.
Dialogue: 0,0:40:04.10,0:40:06.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> I'm very concerned\Nthat I'm at
Dialogue: 0,0:40:06.19,0:40:08.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the beginning of\Na catastrophe.
Dialogue: 0,0:40:08.44,0:40:10.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> So safety has\Nto be sacrificed
Dialogue: 0,0:40:10.45,0:40:12.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in order to\Nmaximize profits.
Dialogue: 0,0:40:12.73,0:40:15.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> But most of the\Npublic expecting
Dialogue: 0,0:40:15.37,0:40:17.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to hate anything\Ncoming from Monsanto,
Dialogue: 0,0:40:17.82,0:40:19.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,champion Benbrook's\Nstudy as
Dialogue: 0,0:40:19.96,0:40:22.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,peer-reviewed\Nscientific evidence
Dialogue: 0,0:40:22.00,0:40:24.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that GMOs cause harm.
Dialogue: 0,0:40:24.10,0:40:25.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> It was perceived
Dialogue: 0,0:40:25.69,0:40:27.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,umbilical\Nconnection between
Dialogue: 0,0:40:27.31,0:40:30.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the GMO and the chemical\Nand the pesticide,
Dialogue: 0,0:40:30.36,0:40:32.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which I think is stuck\Nin people's heads.
Dialogue: 0,0:40:32.30,0:40:33.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Have more GMO
Dialogue: 0,0:40:34.08,0:40:37.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> While there are\Nmany bundled concerns
Dialogue: 0,0:40:37.06,0:40:38.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about Monsanto\Nas accompany,
Dialogue: 0,0:40:38.94,0:40:40.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to be concerned\Nabout the safety of
Dialogue: 0,0:40:40.96,0:40:44.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,their GMOs is to\Nbe misinformed.
Dialogue: 0,0:40:52.08,0:40:54.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Yes. Let's go\Nahead and sit
Dialogue: 0,0:40:54.55,0:40:56.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so we can get good seeds.
Dialogue: 0,0:40:56.16,0:40:58.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> The world that you\Nlive in when you're
Dialogue: 0,0:40:58.00,0:40:59.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a young environmental\Nactivists
Dialogue: 0,0:40:59.59,0:41:01.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is a very black\Nand white world.
Dialogue: 0,0:41:01.52,0:41:03.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There's the bad\Nguys out there and
Dialogue: 0,0:41:03.34,0:41:04.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the bad guys are\Nthe corporations,
Dialogue: 0,0:41:04.81,0:41:05.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are the police, they are
Dialogue: 0,0:41:05.83,0:41:08.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the state and there\Nwasn't a compromise.
Dialogue: 0,0:41:08.17,0:41:09.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You didn't talk to\Nthe corporations.
Dialogue: 0,0:41:09.82,0:41:12.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You stood your ground\Nand you battled them.
Dialogue: 0,0:41:12.61,0:41:14.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Biotechnology is going
Dialogue: 0,0:41:14.11,0:41:15.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to continue to\Nbe important.
Dialogue: 0,0:41:15.62,0:41:17.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I will be the first\Nto tell you as Roy,
Dialogue: 0,0:41:17.92,0:41:19.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the guy who helped start
Dialogue: 0,0:41:19.98,0:41:22.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the GMOs in the\Nbiotechnology
Dialogue: 0,0:41:22.22,0:41:23.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that it's an\Nimportant tool.
Dialogue: 0,0:41:23.71,0:41:26.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's not the only tool\Nthat will be key.
Dialogue: 0,0:41:26.74,0:41:28.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> As we launch\Nthese technologies,
Dialogue: 0,0:41:28.42,0:41:30.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,farmers around the\Nworld were excited
Dialogue: 0,0:41:30.37,0:41:31.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about the benefits of
Dialogue: 0,0:41:31.42,0:41:32.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,these products provided.
Dialogue: 0,0:41:32.71,0:41:35.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Clearly looking back,
Dialogue: 0,0:41:35.20,0:41:36.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we should have\Nalso been much
Dialogue: 0,0:41:36.88,0:41:41.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,more transparent in\Nreaching the public.
Dialogue: 0,0:41:41.68,0:41:43.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,As I look back,\NI wish there was
Dialogue: 0,0:41:43.75,0:41:45.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,something that we would\Nhave done earlier.
Dialogue: 0,0:41:45.79,0:41:48.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Now we know that\Nthat was a mistake.
Dialogue: 0,0:41:48.70,0:41:50.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In the meantime,\NI think that
Dialogue: 0,0:41:50.38,0:41:53.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that void of information\Ngot filled by
Dialogue: 0,0:41:53.08,0:41:55.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,folks who really don't
Dialogue: 0,0:41:55.30,0:41:56.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,understand the\Ntechnology and
Dialogue: 0,0:41:56.80,0:41:58.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,had a very\Ndifferent message.
Dialogue: 0,0:41:58.24,0:42:00.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> You got a question\Nover here [inaudible].
Dialogue: 0,0:42:00.58,0:42:00.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Yes.
Dialogue: 0,0:42:00.72,0:42:02.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> I wonder what Monsanto\Nis doing now that
Dialogue: 0,0:42:02.86,0:42:04.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,roundup has been\Nfound to be
Dialogue: 0,0:42:04.21,0:42:06.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,linked to birth defects,
Dialogue: 0,0:42:06.07,0:42:08.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,fatal kidney\Ndisease epidemics,
Dialogue: 0,0:42:08.22,0:42:09.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Non-Hodgkin's lymphoma,
Dialogue: 0,0:42:09.92,0:42:11.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,brain cancer, how\Nare you trying to
Dialogue: 0,0:42:11.83,0:42:13.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,remedy this toxic\Nlandscaping
Dialogue: 0,0:42:13.78,0:42:15.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,created? Thank you.
Dialogue: 0,0:42:15.26,0:42:17.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Thank you for\Nyour question.
Dialogue: 0,0:42:17.42,0:42:18.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> None of those\Nstudies that
Dialogue: 0,0:42:18.97,0:42:20.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you've quoted are accurate.
Dialogue: 0,0:42:20.46,0:42:22.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They're all\Npseudo-science and I'd be
Dialogue: 0,0:42:22.21,0:42:24.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,happy later to\Ntake you through
Dialogue: 0,0:42:24.34,0:42:25.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,each one and explain to you
Dialogue: 0,0:42:25.72,0:42:28.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the policies and\Nthe misinformation
Dialogue: 0,0:42:28.81,0:42:30.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that are not recognized by
Dialogue: 0,0:42:30.13,0:42:31.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,any government body or
Dialogue: 0,0:42:31.78,0:42:33.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,agency as being\Nvalid studies.
Dialogue: 0,0:42:33.78,0:42:34.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> The importance of
Dialogue: 0,0:42:34.84,0:42:36.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the conversation is this,
Dialogue: 0,0:42:36.18,0:42:38.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,everybody is entitled to
Dialogue: 0,0:42:38.44,0:42:41.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,their opinions and\Nto their emotions.
Dialogue: 0,0:42:41.06,0:42:42.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But in the end,
Dialogue: 0,0:42:42.85,0:42:45.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we have to be grounded\Nin the real science,
Dialogue: 0,0:42:45.07,0:42:46.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,otherwise we will be
Dialogue: 0,0:42:46.58,0:42:48.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,aimless in our\Ndecision-making.
Dialogue: 0,0:42:48.85,0:42:50.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's true whether
Dialogue: 0,0:42:50.26,0:42:52.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we're talking\Nabout vaccines,
Dialogue: 0,0:42:52.06,0:42:53.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,whether we're talking about
Dialogue: 0,0:42:53.20,0:42:54.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,climate change or whether
Dialogue: 0,0:42:54.69,0:42:55.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we're talking about GMOs.
Dialogue: 0,0:42:55.95,0:42:57.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I just urge you to
Dialogue: 0,0:42:57.34,0:42:59.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,think through to\Nthe real science.
Dialogue: 0,0:42:59.31,0:43:00.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> We wanted to get\Neverybody informed.
Dialogue: 0,0:43:00.90,0:43:02.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Do you and\Nyour family eat
Dialogue: 0,0:43:02.91,0:43:04.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the [inaudible]\Nfor your company?
Dialogue: 0,0:43:04.47,0:43:05.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Yeah, absolutely.
Dialogue: 0,0:43:05.18,0:43:06.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Good. Okay.
Dialogue: 0,0:43:06.06,0:43:06.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Yeah.
Dialogue: 0,0:43:06.46,0:43:07.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> All right. Thanks.
Dialogue: 0,0:43:07.16,0:43:08.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> All right. Thanks.
Dialogue: 0,0:43:28.56,0:43:31.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> I think threshing\Ncrops is effective in
Dialogue: 0,0:43:31.60,0:43:32.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the sense that it sends
Dialogue: 0,0:43:32.50,0:43:35.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a huge message\Nto everybody.
Dialogue: 0,0:43:36.87,0:43:39.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Angry farmers destroy
Dialogue: 0,0:43:39.37,0:43:41.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,an experimental rice paddy
Dialogue: 0,0:43:41.08,0:43:43.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the Philippines.
Dialogue: 0,0:43:43.20,0:43:45.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Greenpeace objects to
Dialogue: 0,0:43:45.43,0:43:47.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,all genetically\Nmodified plants.
Dialogue: 0,0:43:47.68,0:43:49.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Some people would\Ncall it vandalism,
Dialogue: 0,0:43:49.44,0:43:51.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we call it decontamination,
Dialogue: 0,0:43:51.24,0:43:54.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because you're stopping\Ngenetic pollution
Dialogue: 0,0:43:54.19,0:43:55.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,spreading across\Nthe countryside.
Dialogue: 0,0:43:55.74,0:43:58.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Our intentions\Nwere honorable.
Dialogue: 0,0:43:58.32,0:44:00.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What we were trying\Nto do was to
Dialogue: 0,0:44:00.10,0:44:02.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,build a more sustainable\Nfarming system.
Dialogue: 0,0:44:02.16,0:44:03.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We are trying to eliminate
Dialogue: 0,0:44:03.19,0:44:05.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,chemicals from\Nour food supply.
Dialogue: 0,0:44:05.04,0:44:06.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We were trying to protect
Dialogue: 0,0:44:06.91,0:44:08.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the future of the planet
Dialogue: 0,0:44:08.23,0:44:09.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the health\Nof our children.
Dialogue: 0,0:44:09.68,0:44:11.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,As an activist,\Nyou tend to take
Dialogue: 0,0:44:11.32,0:44:13.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,these things as a\Npoint of faith.
Dialogue: 0,0:44:13.02,0:44:14.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So it begs the question,
Dialogue: 0,0:44:14.89,0:44:17.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,how do you know that\NGMOs are the enemy?
Dialogue: 0,0:44:17.12,0:44:19.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What if we got it wrong?
Dialogue: 0,0:44:19.15,0:44:21.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What if eliminating GMOs
Dialogue: 0,0:44:21.78,0:44:23.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was not the way to\Nachieve these ends?
Dialogue: 0,0:44:23.92,0:44:25.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now, my lords,
Dialogue: 0,0:44:25.48,0:44:27.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,ladies and gentlemen\Nhere in up front,
Dialogue: 0,0:44:27.37,0:44:28.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I want to apologize\Nfor having spent
Dialogue: 0,0:44:28.90,0:44:30.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,several years ripping\Nout GM crops,
Dialogue: 0,0:44:30.79,0:44:34.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and that I thereby\Nassisted in demonizing
Dialogue: 0,0:44:34.52,0:44:36.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,an important\Ntechnological option
Dialogue: 0,0:44:36.01,0:44:36.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which can and
Dialogue: 0,0:44:36.58,0:44:39.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,should be used to\Nbenefit the environment.
Dialogue: 0,0:44:39.02,0:44:40.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,As an environmentalist,
Dialogue: 0,0:44:40.57,0:44:41.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I could not have chosen
Dialogue: 0,0:44:41.50,0:44:42.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the more\Ncounterproductive path
Dialogue: 0,0:44:42.76,0:44:44.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and are now regret\Nit completely.
Dialogue: 0,0:44:44.16,0:44:46.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So what happened\Nbetween 1995 and
Dialogue: 0,0:44:46.51,0:44:49.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,now that made me not\Nonly change my mind,
Dialogue: 0,0:44:49.75,0:44:50.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but actually come\Nhere and stand
Dialogue: 0,0:44:50.86,0:44:52.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,before you today\Nand admit it.
Dialogue: 0,0:44:52.94,0:44:55.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Well, the answer\Nis fairly simple.
Dialogue: 0,0:44:55.96,0:44:58.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I discovered science\Nand in the process,
Dialogue: 0,0:44:58.57,0:44:59.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I hope I'm
Dialogue: 0,0:44:59.77,0:45:01.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,becoming a better\Nenvironmentalist.
Dialogue: 0,0:45:01.80,0:45:03.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Before I changed\Nmy mind on GMOs,
Dialogue: 0,0:45:03.94,0:45:05.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'd spent 10 years
Dialogue: 0,0:45:05.32,0:45:07.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,developing a career\Nas a science writer,
Dialogue: 0,0:45:07.69,0:45:09.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and mostly on the issue\Nof climate change.
Dialogue: 0,0:45:09.68,0:45:10.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Every book, every article,
Dialogue: 0,0:45:10.99,0:45:12.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,everything I wrote,
Dialogue: 0,0:45:12.31,0:45:13.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I wanted to have
Dialogue: 0,0:45:13.63,0:45:16.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,peer reviewed\Nscientific references.
Dialogue: 0,0:45:16.18,0:45:17.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I knew that\Nthat was based on
Dialogue: 0,0:45:17.71,0:45:19.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the best scientific\Ndata available.
Dialogue: 0,0:45:19.46,0:45:20.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Whereas on the GMO issue,
Dialogue: 0,0:45:20.78,0:45:22.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was taking the\Nopposite perspective.
Dialogue: 0,0:45:22.60,0:45:24.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was arguing against\Nthe scientists
Dialogue: 0,0:45:24.26,0:45:26.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,without any\Nscientific data.
Dialogue: 0,0:45:28.44,0:45:31.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> He says he's\Njunked ideology
Dialogue: 0,0:45:31.54,0:45:33.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in favor of hard science.
Dialogue: 0,0:45:33.92,0:45:36.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Is it really as\Nsimple as that?
Dialogue: 0,0:45:36.36,0:45:37.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Your intellect
Dialogue: 0,0:45:37.45,0:45:38.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,presumably hasn't\Nchanged very much,
Dialogue: 0,0:45:38.71,0:45:40.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and if you were so wrong,
Dialogue: 0,0:45:40.27,0:45:43.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so incompetent, so\Nshallow in the past,
Dialogue: 0,0:45:43.78,0:45:45.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,why should we believe\Nyou're any different?
Dialogue: 0,0:45:45.40,0:45:45.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Well,
Dialogue: 0,0:45:45.88,0:45:47.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,all the more reason\Nfor you to change
Dialogue: 0,0:45:47.14,0:45:48.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,our mind in response
Dialogue: 0,0:45:48.22,0:45:49.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to changing facts\Nas I saw it.
Dialogue: 0,0:45:49.84,0:45:51.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Science should be\Nabout changing or
Dialogue: 0,0:45:51.91,0:45:52.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,conclusion on the basis
Dialogue: 0,0:45:52.96,0:45:54.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of objective evidence,
Dialogue: 0,0:45:54.54,0:45:56.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but understanding\Nthat is tough.
Dialogue: 0,0:45:56.28,0:45:58.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's not how we humans\Nare wired to think.
Dialogue: 0,0:45:58.54,0:45:59.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We're wired to make
Dialogue: 0,0:45:59.41,0:46:00.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on minds up and that's it,
Dialogue: 0,0:46:00.19,0:46:02.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and we made a\Ndecision and that's
Dialogue: 0,0:46:02.71,0:46:05.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,going to be largely\Nemotionally based.
Dialogue: 0,0:46:05.82,0:46:09.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So learning to think\Nlike a scientist,
Dialogue: 0,0:46:09.25,0:46:10.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and learning to take
Dialogue: 0,0:46:10.69,0:46:12.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,decisions which\Nare amenable to
Dialogue: 0,0:46:12.34,0:46:15.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,change was the most\Ndifficult thing
Dialogue: 0,0:46:15.01,0:46:17.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to do for me as an\Nenvironmentalist.
Dialogue: 0,0:46:22.47,0:46:24.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> When it comes\Nto complex issues
Dialogue: 0,0:46:24.97,0:46:26.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that affect food\Nand farming,
Dialogue: 0,0:46:26.88,0:46:28.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,everyone struggles to
Dialogue: 0,0:46:28.45,0:46:30.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,make the right decisions.
Dialogue: 0,0:46:30.13,0:46:32.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,For some, their\Ndecisions come from
Dialogue: 0,0:46:32.59,0:46:33.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a scientific assessment
Dialogue: 0,0:46:33.92,0:46:36.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of risks and benefits.
Dialogue: 0,0:46:38.10,0:46:40.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> I wanted to be\Nan organic farmer
Dialogue: 0,0:46:40.76,0:46:42.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because number 1,
Dialogue: 0,0:46:42.50,0:46:44.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the produce is much\Nmore profitable,
Dialogue: 0,0:46:44.100,0:46:48.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and number 2, it's\Nmuch more sustainable.
Dialogue: 0,0:46:51.99,0:46:55.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> I'm proud to be\Nan organic farmer.
Dialogue: 0,0:46:55.52,0:46:58.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Instead of using\Nchemical pesticides,
Dialogue: 0,0:46:58.69,0:47:02.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,organic agriculture uses\Nintegrated controls.
Dialogue: 0,0:47:02.42,0:47:04.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Organic farming\Nwas developed
Dialogue: 0,0:47:04.48,0:47:06.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,around the world\Nfor many reasons;
Dialogue: 0,0:47:06.61,0:47:09.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to curb the use of\Nsynthetic chemicals,
Dialogue: 0,0:47:09.17,0:47:11.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,help soil fertility and
Dialogue: 0,0:47:11.96,0:47:14.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,ideally improve the\Noverall sustainability
Dialogue: 0,0:47:14.77,0:47:16.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of our food production.
Dialogue: 0,0:47:16.36,0:47:19.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Although organic\Nagriculture
Dialogue: 0,0:47:19.10,0:47:20.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is a good model,
Dialogue: 0,0:47:20.22,0:47:23.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there are aspects\Nthat prevent it from
Dialogue: 0,0:47:23.05,0:47:26.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,becoming the sustainable\Nagriculture.
Dialogue: 0,0:47:26.44,0:47:29.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The challenging\Npart for organic is
Dialogue: 0,0:47:29.65,0:47:33.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to provide food on\Na very large scale.
Dialogue: 0,0:47:33.80,0:47:35.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's very difficult to do.
Dialogue: 0,0:47:35.72,0:47:38.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Organic farming\Nhas taught all of us
Dialogue: 0,0:47:38.10,0:47:40.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about so much over\Nthe recent decades.
Dialogue: 0,0:47:40.76,0:47:41.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But if this is
Dialogue: 0,0:47:41.95,0:47:43.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,an organic planet\Nwe're going towards,
Dialogue: 0,0:47:43.50,0:47:45.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you would see all the\Nrain forests destroyed.
Dialogue: 0,0:47:45.72,0:47:46.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You'd have to\Ndouble or even
Dialogue: 0,0:47:46.78,0:47:47.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,triple the amount\Nof land area which
Dialogue: 0,0:47:47.98,0:47:49.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,has been cultivated just to
Dialogue: 0,0:47:49.06,0:47:50.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,feed the common population,
Dialogue: 0,0:47:50.36,0:47:52.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and a population\Nof 9.5 billion.
Dialogue: 0,0:47:52.22,0:47:54.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So it would be an\Necological disaster.
Dialogue: 0,0:47:54.52,0:47:57.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> So we need to\Nuse every kind of
Dialogue: 0,0:47:57.19,0:47:59.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,technology and\Nstrategy related
Dialogue: 0,0:47:59.56,0:48:01.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to agriculture that we can,
Dialogue: 0,0:48:01.63,0:48:04.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and genetically\Nengineered crops
Dialogue: 0,0:48:04.33,0:48:07.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,have achieved\Nof those goals.
Dialogue: 0,0:48:07.38,0:48:11.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So the papaya ringspot\Nvirus in Hawaii,
Dialogue: 0,0:48:11.14,0:48:12.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,organic practices
Dialogue: 0,0:48:12.46,0:48:14.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,just weren't going\Nto control that.
Dialogue: 0,0:48:14.64,0:48:18.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Whether it's small\Nfarmers in Africa,
Dialogue: 0,0:48:18.05,0:48:20.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or its large\Nfarmers in the US,
Dialogue: 0,0:48:20.36,0:48:21.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we need strategies to
Dialogue: 0,0:48:21.64,0:48:25.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,solve both their problems.
Dialogue: 0,0:48:29.49,0:48:33.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Zen Honeycutt from\NMoms Across America.
Dialogue: 0,0:48:33.94,0:48:37.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> I met the CEO of\NMonsanto and I said,
Dialogue: 0,0:48:37.41,0:48:38.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"We have science that
Dialogue: 0,0:48:38.70,0:48:40.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,your products harm\Nour children,
Dialogue: 0,0:48:40.94,0:48:43.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and just consider\Nif you're wrong,
Dialogue: 0,0:48:43.10,0:48:44.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the repercussions to
Dialogue: 0,0:48:44.22,0:48:45.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,your company are enormous,
Dialogue: 0,0:48:45.93,0:48:47.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the repercussions to
Dialogue: 0,0:48:47.07,0:48:49.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the world are\Nhuge," and he said,
Dialogue: 0,0:48:49.11,0:48:50.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Well, if you're wrong,
Dialogue: 0,0:48:50.31,0:48:52.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you're scaring an\Nawful lot of people,
Dialogue: 0,0:48:52.35,0:48:55.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,," and I said, "If I were\Nwrong, and I'm not,
Dialogue: 0,0:48:55.74,0:48:58.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then the only\Nrepercussion to
Dialogue: 0,0:48:58.23,0:49:00.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the people is that\Nthey're eating organic,
Dialogue: 0,0:49:00.77,0:49:03.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and there is nothing\Nwrong with organic food.
Dialogue: 0,0:49:03.43,0:49:06.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It is perfect\Nthe way it is."
Dialogue: 0,0:49:06.42,0:49:10.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Zen Honeycutt\Nscares moms into
Dialogue: 0,0:49:10.52,0:49:11.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,believing that\Nthey're harming
Dialogue: 0,0:49:11.92,0:49:14.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,their children by\Nfeeding them with GMOs.
Dialogue: 0,0:49:14.84,0:49:16.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> We're going to go\Nand see if we can have
Dialogue: 0,0:49:16.78,0:49:18.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a little conversation\Nwith Zen.
Dialogue: 0,0:49:18.37,0:49:19.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think maybe it'd be
Dialogue: 0,0:49:19.36,0:49:20.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a good idea to\Ntalk to her in
Dialogue: 0,0:49:20.56,0:49:22.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,person and let her\Nknow that we're human,
Dialogue: 0,0:49:22.69,0:49:23.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and let her know that we
Dialogue: 0,0:49:23.77,0:49:24.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,know she's human too,
Dialogue: 0,0:49:24.86,0:49:27.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and maybe it might\Nimprove dialogue.
Dialogue: 0,0:49:27.98,0:49:29.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Studies have to be
Dialogue: 0,0:49:29.35,0:49:31.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,reproduced to\Nbe meaningful.
Dialogue: 0,0:49:31.74,0:49:33.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,How many studies have been
Dialogue: 0,0:49:33.88,0:49:35.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,reproduced that\Nshow harmful GMO?
Dialogue: 0,0:49:35.100,0:49:37.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Why would you subject
Dialogue: 0,0:49:37.21,0:49:38.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,your child to any harm,
Dialogue: 0,0:49:38.44,0:49:40.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if there's even one\Nstudy that shows harm?
Dialogue: 0,0:49:40.64,0:49:42.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Why would you subject\Nthem to that?
Dialogue: 0,0:49:42.55,0:49:43.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> There are\Nstudies that show
Dialogue: 0,0:49:43.72,0:49:45.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,organic food cause harm.
Dialogue: 0,0:49:45.02,0:49:46.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Why do you subject\Nyour children to that?
Dialogue: 0,0:49:46.48,0:49:48.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> No, organic\Nfood is the way
Dialogue: 0,0:49:48.58,0:49:50.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,God made it. It's\Nnot harmful.
Dialogue: 0,0:49:50.91,0:49:51.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> No, it's not.
Dialogue: 0,0:49:51.22,0:49:52.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,God didn't make\Norganic food.
Dialogue: 0,0:49:52.54,0:49:54.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Organic is a\Nmodern concept.
Dialogue: 0,0:49:54.64,0:49:55.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> No, it's not.
Dialogue: 0,0:49:55.98,0:49:57.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,How much money\Nare you making?
Dialogue: 0,0:49:57.46,0:49:59.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Zero dollars. I'm a\Nmother, an activist.
Dialogue: 0,0:49:59.65,0:50:00.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,How much money is
Dialogue: 0,0:50:00.22,0:50:01.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the organic industry\Npaying you?
Dialogue: 0,0:50:01.88,0:50:03.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Nothing.
Dialogue: 0,0:50:04.56,0:50:08.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Well, she's a\Ntrue believer.
Dialogue: 0,0:50:08.54,0:50:10.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> You do not get to\Ncall me a bad mom.
Dialogue: 0,0:50:10.87,0:50:13.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> A concerned mom named
Dialogue: 0,0:50:13.51,0:50:16.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Zen Honeycutt started\NMoms Across America.
Dialogue: 0,0:50:16.27,0:50:18.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So when did you first\Nbecome concerned that
Dialogue: 0,0:50:18.34,0:50:19.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,your kids were\Nbeing affected
Dialogue: 0,0:50:19.42,0:50:20.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,by these pesticides?
Dialogue: 0,0:50:20.66,0:50:22.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Well, Dr. Oz,\Nfor a long time,
Dialogue: 0,0:50:22.57,0:50:24.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I didn't know\Nthat pesticides
Dialogue: 0,0:50:24.18,0:50:25.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,might be affecting\Nmy children.
Dialogue: 0,0:50:25.78,0:50:27.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In fact, they\Nhad rashes and
Dialogue: 0,0:50:27.55,0:50:29.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,severe allergies for years.
Dialogue: 0,0:50:29.23,0:50:29.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> So what tests do
Dialogue: 0,0:50:29.83,0:50:31.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,doctors do to\Nidentify that there
Dialogue: 0,0:50:31.15,0:50:33.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are pesticides involved\Nwith this process?
Dialogue: 0,0:50:33.08,0:50:35.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Well, my doctors\Ntold me that they would
Dialogue: 0,0:50:35.23,0:50:36.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,not test for glyphosate
Dialogue: 0,0:50:36.46,0:50:37.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because there was\Nno reason to.
Dialogue: 0,0:50:37.98,0:50:39.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But we finally found
Dialogue: 0,0:50:39.22,0:50:40.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a private lab that would,
Dialogue: 0,0:50:40.93,0:50:45.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and we had shockingly\Nunacceptable results.
Dialogue: 0,0:50:52.14,0:50:55.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> With no scientific\Noversight,
Dialogue: 0,0:50:55.06,0:50:57.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,run through a\Nmail-order lab using
Dialogue: 0,0:50:57.37,0:50:59.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,random urine and\Nbreast milk samples
Dialogue: 0,0:50:59.44,0:51:01.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sent in from\Nwebsite followers.
Dialogue: 0,0:51:01.54,0:51:04.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Moms Across America\Nposted their results,
Dialogue: 0,0:51:04.72,0:51:07.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,not in a peer reviewed\Nscientific journal,
Dialogue: 0,0:51:07.21,0:51:09.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but on their own website.
Dialogue: 0,0:51:09.43,0:51:11.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,A biologist trained in
Dialogue: 0,0:51:11.90,0:51:13.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,analyzing breast\Nmilk was attacked
Dialogue: 0,0:51:13.87,0:51:15.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,online when she tried to
Dialogue: 0,0:51:15.55,0:51:18.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,point out the study's\Nmany failings.
Dialogue: 0,0:51:18.01,0:51:19.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> I'm a human milk and
Dialogue: 0,0:51:19.27,0:51:20.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,lactation nutritionist.
Dialogue: 0,0:51:20.95,0:51:22.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was looking at\Nmilk composition.
Dialogue: 0,0:51:22.90,0:51:24.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What I think that they\Ndon't realize is I did
Dialogue: 0,0:51:24.97,0:51:27.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,not have a dog\Nin the fight.
Dialogue: 0,0:51:27.26,0:51:29.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The worst ones for\Nme being a mom,
Dialogue: 0,0:51:29.29,0:51:30.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are the ones that\Nsuggests that
Dialogue: 0,0:51:30.58,0:51:32.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,somehow I could\Nbe bought off,
Dialogue: 0,0:51:32.17,0:51:34.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that I'm killing babies.
Dialogue: 0,0:51:35.13,0:51:38.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,How can I sleep at\Nnight and that I have
Dialogue: 0,0:51:38.05,0:51:41.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,blood on my hands? I\Nmean, are you kidding?
Dialogue: 0,0:51:43.35,0:51:45.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think that there are\Na lot of families,
Dialogue: 0,0:51:45.98,0:51:47.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they want good information.
Dialogue: 0,0:51:47.35,0:51:49.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's just that from\Nwhat I see now,
Dialogue: 0,0:51:49.45,0:51:51.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there's so much\Npropaganda out there,
Dialogue: 0,0:51:51.07,0:51:53.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's hard to know what's\Nreal and what isn't.
Dialogue: 0,0:51:53.92,0:51:55.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> What do you think drives
Dialogue: 0,0:51:55.40,0:51:58.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Zen Honeycutt or\Nwhat's her motivation?
Dialogue: 0,0:51:58.52,0:51:59.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> I honestly think
Dialogue: 0,0:51:59.98,0:52:02.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,her motivation is\Nthe same as ours.
Dialogue: 0,0:52:02.41,0:52:05.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I really think she honestly
Dialogue: 0,0:52:05.40,0:52:06.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,thinks what she's doing
Dialogue: 0,0:52:06.99,0:52:08.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is going to save children,
Dialogue: 0,0:52:08.85,0:52:12.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but it is so not\Nbased in reality.
Dialogue: 0,0:52:13.01,0:52:15.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If anything, I think she's
Dialogue: 0,0:52:15.03,0:52:16.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,doing a lot of harm.
Dialogue: 0,0:52:16.98,0:52:18.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> So what happens a lot
Dialogue: 0,0:52:18.72,0:52:20.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in this particular\Ndiscussion?
Dialogue: 0,0:52:20.16,0:52:21.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Groups that are opposed
Dialogue: 0,0:52:21.39,0:52:23.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to this technology suggest
Dialogue: 0,0:52:23.32,0:52:26.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that these GMOs\Ncause cancer.
Dialogue: 0,0:52:26.94,0:52:29.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,As a mother, it just\Nbroke my heart that
Dialogue: 0,0:52:29.55,0:52:33.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,parent now is wondering\Nwhat they did wrong.
Dialogue: 0,0:52:33.43,0:52:36.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Every parent wants to blame
Dialogue: 0,0:52:36.13,0:52:37.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,themselves when\Nsomething tragic
Dialogue: 0,0:52:37.57,0:52:38.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,happens to their child,
Dialogue: 0,0:52:38.68,0:52:41.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I think I can speak\Nto that because I
Dialogue: 0,0:52:41.74,0:52:43.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,actually myself had
Dialogue: 0,0:52:43.21,0:52:45.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,stillborn child,\Nmy daughter.
Dialogue: 0,0:52:45.31,0:52:48.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When you're faced with\Nthat kind of tragedy,
Dialogue: 0,0:52:48.34,0:52:51.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's very easy to want to
Dialogue: 0,0:52:51.16,0:52:54.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,blame something\Nfor causing it.
Dialogue: 0,0:52:54.32,0:52:55.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You look at everything
Dialogue: 0,0:52:55.66,0:52:56.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you ate, and\Neverything you did,
Dialogue: 0,0:52:56.92,0:52:58.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and how could I have
Dialogue: 0,0:52:58.03,0:52:59.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,stopped that tragedy\Nfrom happening?
Dialogue: 0,0:52:59.65,0:53:03.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But as time has\Ngone through,
Dialogue: 0,0:53:03.22,0:53:05.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I've realized that it was
Dialogue: 0,0:53:05.26,0:53:08.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,an unfortunate tragedy\Nthat had no cause.
Dialogue: 0,0:53:08.47,0:53:12.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There was no reason\Nthat she was stillborn.
Dialogue: 0,0:53:18.33,0:53:21.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm very passionate about
Dialogue: 0,0:53:21.73,0:53:24.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,trying to ensure\Nthat we don't have
Dialogue: 0,0:53:24.25,0:53:27.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,parents blaming themselves\Nor feeling guilty
Dialogue: 0,0:53:27.58,0:53:31.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because they're\Nfeeding kids GMOs,
Dialogue: 0,0:53:31.51,0:53:35.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it infuriates me\Nwhen these groups use
Dialogue: 0,0:53:35.89,0:53:39.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,tragedy to advance\Ntheir cause
Dialogue: 0,0:53:39.24,0:53:43.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the absence of any\Nscientific evidence.
Dialogue: 0,0:53:46.14,0:53:48.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> I'm aware that when I
Dialogue: 0,0:53:48.31,0:53:50.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,give a talk about GMOs,
Dialogue: 0,0:53:50.71,0:53:52.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that moms with kids that
Dialogue: 0,0:53:52.03,0:53:53.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,have diseases or disorders,
Dialogue: 0,0:53:53.92,0:53:54.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they may be putting
Dialogue: 0,0:53:54.97,0:53:56.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,together that they may have
Dialogue: 0,0:53:56.05,0:53:57.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,actually hurt their child
Dialogue: 0,0:53:57.62,0:53:58.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,based on what they ate.
Dialogue: 0,0:53:58.88,0:54:01.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Cancer, diabetes,
Dialogue: 0,0:54:01.42,0:54:04.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,obesity, heart\Ndisease, etc.
Dialogue: 0,0:54:04.98,0:54:10.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I carry a huge\Nresponsibility knowing that
Dialogue: 0,0:54:10.16,0:54:13.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the truth about GMOs can
Dialogue: 0,0:54:13.24,0:54:17.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,generate fear,\Nanger, and sadness.
Dialogue: 0,0:54:29.51,0:54:32.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> There are lots\Nof people in
Dialogue: 0,0:54:32.16,0:54:35.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,our society who will\Npray upon people.
Dialogue: 0,0:54:35.72,0:54:39.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They appeal to their\Nfears and worries.
Dialogue: 0,0:54:39.54,0:54:41.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They give them answers,
Dialogue: 0,0:54:41.68,0:54:44.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,absolute answers to where?
Dialogue: 0,0:54:44.72,0:54:46.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Like so many things,
Dialogue: 0,0:54:46.23,0:54:47.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like most things in life,
Dialogue: 0,0:54:47.37,0:54:49.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there are no\Nabsolute answers.
Dialogue: 0,0:54:49.64,0:54:51.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> I think as a mother,
Dialogue: 0,0:54:51.74,0:54:53.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,one of the big catalysts
Dialogue: 0,0:54:53.26,0:54:54.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is the messaging is coming
Dialogue: 0,0:54:54.57,0:54:58.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,across is that GMOs\Nequal pesticides,
Dialogue: 0,0:54:58.05,0:55:00.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and people get at\Npesticides kill things.
Dialogue: 0,0:55:00.74,0:55:02.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When mothers and
Dialogue: 0,0:55:02.26,0:55:04.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,consumers\Nunderstand it like,
Dialogue: 0,0:55:04.14,0:55:05.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,whoa, there's a really
Dialogue: 0,0:55:05.67,0:55:07.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,good reasons to\Neat organic.
Dialogue: 0,0:55:07.32,0:55:09.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Do you think some in
Dialogue: 0,0:55:09.24,0:55:11.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the organic natural\Nfoods industries
Dialogue: 0,0:55:11.41,0:55:15.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,use fear to sell products?
Dialogue: 0,0:55:19.55,0:55:22.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> The organic industry has
Dialogue: 0,0:55:22.88,0:55:26.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,got a lot of the\Ndifferent players in it.
Dialogue: 0,0:55:26.44,0:55:30.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yeah, I think some\Nparticularly activists.
Dialogue: 0,0:55:30.46,0:55:34.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Jeffrey Smith is an\Nexample of a number of
Dialogue: 0,0:55:34.83,0:55:37.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,anti-GMO activists
Dialogue: 0,0:55:37.54,0:55:41.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that are very\Nentrepreneurial.
Dialogue: 0,0:55:41.49,0:55:44.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Store, books.
Dialogue: 0,0:55:44.32,0:55:46.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> I wrote him\Nand I made him.
Dialogue: 0,0:55:46.10,0:55:47.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The movie Genetic\NRoulette has been
Dialogue: 0,0:55:47.52,0:55:48.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the fastest conversion tool
Dialogue: 0,0:55:48.99,0:55:50.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we ever found to
Dialogue: 0,0:55:50.51,0:55:52.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,convert someone\Nto non-GMO diets.
Dialogue: 0,0:55:52.18,0:55:54.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> I think people like\NJeffrey Smith use
Dialogue: 0,0:55:54.95,0:55:57.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,fear and really go\Nbeyond science.
Dialogue: 0,0:55:57.29,0:55:59.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> You can't trust\Nthe chemicals and
Dialogue: 0,0:55:59.84,0:56:01.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the food-like\Nsubstances that
Dialogue: 0,0:56:01.49,0:56:02.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are being pumped\Ninto our food,
Dialogue: 0,0:56:02.99,0:56:05.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because there's only\None benefit to them.
Dialogue: 0,0:56:05.88,0:56:08.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's to them and not us.
Dialogue: 0,0:56:08.18,0:56:10.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So who can you trust?
Dialogue: 0,0:56:10.06,0:56:12.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You can trust\NMother Nature.
Dialogue: 0,0:56:12.48,0:56:15.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Food Babe? Thanks\Nfor stopping by
Dialogue: 0,0:56:15.15,0:56:16.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the Food Babe\Nshop below are
Dialogue: 0,0:56:16.41,0:56:18.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,food items that I\Nenjoy on daily basis,
Dialogue: 0,0:56:18.60,0:56:20.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,organic raw almond butter.
Dialogue: 0,0:56:20.32,0:56:21.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This shop contains
Dialogue: 0,0:56:21.36,0:56:22.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,affiliate links\Nfor products.
Dialogue: 0,0:56:22.77,0:56:25.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Food Babe is approved\Nand researched herself.
Dialogue: 0,0:56:25.83,0:56:27.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Food Babe will\Nautomatically
Dialogue: 0,0:56:27.63,0:56:29.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,receive a small\Nreferral fee.
Dialogue: 0,0:56:29.61,0:56:30.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Frankly, I trust
Dialogue: 0,0:56:30.84,0:56:32.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the social media\Nlike blogs like
Dialogue: 0,0:56:32.52,0:56:35.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Bonnie Harry's\Nor other moms
Dialogue: 0,0:56:35.04,0:56:36.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that even just do a post.
Dialogue: 0,0:56:36.38,0:56:37.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I trust what they say
Dialogue: 0,0:56:37.94,0:56:39.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,more than most\Nmedical doctors,
Dialogue: 0,0:56:39.78,0:56:41.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,more than the CEC,
Dialogue: 0,0:56:41.46,0:56:42.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,more than the FDA,
Dialogue: 0,0:56:42.51,0:56:43.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,more than the USDA,
Dialogue: 0,0:56:43.71,0:56:44.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,more than the EPA.
Dialogue: 0,0:56:44.91,0:56:46.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's real. I don't
Dialogue: 0,0:56:46.02,0:56:47.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,need to scientific study.
Dialogue: 0,0:56:47.26,0:56:48.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,For that, I don't need
Dialogue: 0,0:56:48.33,0:56:50.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a doctor to tell me that.
Dialogue: 0,0:56:51.38,0:56:54.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> I can buy Restore\Nfor gut health.
Dialogue: 0,0:56:54.75,0:56:56.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Restore is being tested for
Dialogue: 0,0:56:56.25,0:56:57.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and shown to\Nsupport resilience
Dialogue: 0,0:56:57.72,0:56:58.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of cells to the most
Dialogue: 0,0:56:58.74,0:57:00.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,widely-used herbicide\Nin the world to
Dialogue: 0,0:57:00.93,0:57:04.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[inaudible] To put it\Nsimply, Restore works.
Dialogue: 0,0:57:04.46,0:57:08.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> I'm deeply troubled\Nby the erosion of
Dialogue: 0,0:57:08.38,0:57:10.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the integrity of\Nscience and the whole
Dialogue: 0,0:57:10.74,0:57:13.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,debate about genetically\Nengineered food.
Dialogue: 0,0:57:13.94,0:57:16.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The point\Ncounterpoint, he said,
Dialogue: 0,0:57:16.62,0:57:18.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,she said that's going on.
Dialogue: 0,0:57:18.66,0:57:22.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I don't think\Nthat the science
Dialogue: 0,0:57:22.36,0:57:27.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,supports such a wide\Narray of opinions.
Dialogue: 0,0:57:27.28,0:57:28.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> People may say, oh,
Dialogue: 0,0:57:28.47,0:57:29.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you shouldn't trust her.
Dialogue: 0,0:57:29.72,0:57:31.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Everything I read on\NFacebook wherever.
Dialogue: 0,0:57:31.41,0:57:33.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But what other motivation
Dialogue: 0,0:57:33.03,0:57:35.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with that person have?
Dialogue: 0,0:57:36.53,0:57:38.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> When a patient\Nwould come in to
Dialogue: 0,0:57:38.82,0:57:40.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,see me and they say,
Dialogue: 0,0:57:40.47,0:57:41.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,well, what do you\Nthink I should do
Dialogue: 0,0:57:41.73,0:57:43.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about this problem, doc?
Dialogue: 0,0:57:43.12,0:57:45.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I wouldn't tell them\Nwhat I believe,
Dialogue: 0,0:57:45.99,0:57:47.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I tell them what we know.
Dialogue: 0,0:57:47.82,0:57:49.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That has been shown\Nto be helpful
Dialogue: 0,0:57:49.44,0:57:51.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and what has been\Nshown to be harmful.
Dialogue: 0,0:57:51.54,0:57:53.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When you look\Nat the science,
Dialogue: 0,0:57:53.24,0:57:54.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we know that it's important
Dialogue: 0,0:57:54.94,0:57:56.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to eat whole foods,
Dialogue: 0,0:57:56.25,0:57:57.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to eat lots of fruits and
Dialogue: 0,0:57:57.36,0:57:59.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,vegetables and\Nwhole grains.
Dialogue: 0,0:57:59.94,0:58:03.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We don't know that\Nyou're going to be
Dialogue: 0,0:58:03.06,0:58:05.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,healthier if those\Nproducts or organic.
Dialogue: 0,0:58:05.55,0:58:07.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So please buy fruits and
Dialogue: 0,0:58:07.14,0:58:09.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,vegetables and\Nwhole grains,
Dialogue: 0,0:58:09.04,0:58:10.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and don't worry\Nwhether they're
Dialogue: 0,0:58:10.86,0:58:12.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,organically produced or
Dialogue: 0,0:58:12.12,0:58:13.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,not organically produced.
Dialogue: 0,0:58:13.65,0:58:15.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> It's like the issue
Dialogue: 0,0:58:15.60,0:58:17.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of vaccinations really.
Dialogue: 0,0:58:17.26,0:58:20.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You can try and have
Dialogue: 0,0:58:20.19,0:58:22.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,public information\Ncampaigns but
Dialogue: 0,0:58:22.30,0:58:23.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's much easier to scare
Dialogue: 0,0:58:23.70,0:58:25.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,people and just\Nto reassure them.
Dialogue: 0,0:58:25.46,0:58:27.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The misinformation\Noriginates in
Dialogue: 0,0:58:27.99,0:58:29.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the rich world and it's
Dialogue: 0,0:58:29.16,0:58:31.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,damaging the interests\Nof the poor world.
Dialogue: 0,0:58:49.16,0:58:51.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> We do everything
Dialogue: 0,0:58:51.27,0:58:52.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,similar to what\Nfarmer does.
Dialogue: 0,0:58:52.100,0:58:57.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,No fertilizer, no\Npesticide, no insecticide.
Dialogue: 0,0:58:57.42,0:58:59.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,See the control plant has
Dialogue: 0,0:58:59.37,0:59:01.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the disease and\Nthe control plant
Dialogue: 0,0:59:01.02,0:59:02.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,completely wilted.
Dialogue: 0,0:59:02.20,0:59:05.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But our transgenic\Nlines has no disease.
Dialogue: 0,0:59:05.61,0:59:07.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So actually all our
Dialogue: 0,0:59:07.44,0:59:09.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,genetically modified plants
Dialogue: 0,0:59:09.60,0:59:12.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,all has a 100\Npercent resistance.
Dialogue: 0,0:59:12.09,0:59:13.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> It was quite\Namazing to say
Dialogue: 0,0:59:13.71,0:59:15.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Lena's GMO plants that
Dialogue: 0,0:59:15.30,0:59:16.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,were resistant to
Dialogue: 0,0:59:16.64,0:59:18.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the banana\Nbacterial disease.
Dialogue: 0,0:59:18.75,0:59:21.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> You feel free\Nto touch and even
Dialogue: 0,0:59:21.27,0:59:22.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,their fruits you can
Dialogue: 0,0:59:22.29,0:59:28.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if you touch\Nthem. [inaudible]
Dialogue: 0,0:59:28.89,0:59:29.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Not GM.
Dialogue: 0,0:59:29.76,0:59:31.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> I want to know\Nthat the actually
Dialogue: 0,0:59:31.11,0:59:33.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,GMOs are not bad like\Nthey use to say.
Dialogue: 0,0:59:33.82,0:59:34.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> [inaudible] do you
Dialogue: 0,0:59:34.56,0:59:35.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,think this crop integrate
Dialogue: 0,0:59:35.97,0:59:38.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,well their system you\Nhave been practicing?
Dialogue: 0,0:59:38.07,0:59:41.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Even better.\NSo it does well.
Dialogue: 0,0:59:41.02,0:59:42.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> I wouldn't mind bringing
Dialogue: 0,0:59:42.00,0:59:43.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a GM crop in my garden.
Dialogue: 0,0:59:43.68,0:59:45.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> To me I would
Dialogue: 0,0:59:45.27,0:59:47.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,think the transgenic\Nis ready.
Dialogue: 0,0:59:47.31,0:59:49.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Well, what makes\Nit not ready?
Dialogue: 0,0:59:49.92,0:59:51.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Yeah. Is there by
Dialogue: 0,0:59:51.32,0:59:53.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,safety law which\Nis not in place.
Dialogue: 0,0:59:53.74,0:59:55.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I don't know why\Nthey don't consider.
Dialogue: 0,0:59:55.67,0:59:57.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Maybe we have to like
Dialogue: 0,0:59:57.29,0:59:59.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,change their\Nperception for that.
Dialogue: 0,0:59:59.42,1:00:00.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The government has to be
Dialogue: 0,1:00:00.89,1:00:04.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,forced to put the\Nlaw in place.
Dialogue: 0,1:00:04.79,1:00:08.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> When I saw\NFrancis his face she
Dialogue: 0,1:00:08.70,1:00:10.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,also cannot believe\Nthat there was
Dialogue: 0,1:00:10.26,1:00:12.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,an answer to a her problem.
Dialogue: 0,1:00:12.26,1:00:13.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,She was like, can you give
Dialogue: 0,1:00:13.95,1:00:16.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,us these plants yesterday?
Dialogue: 0,1:00:16.23,1:00:20.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[inaudible] But it was so
Dialogue: 0,1:00:20.13,1:00:22.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sad she could not get
Dialogue: 0,1:00:22.47,1:00:24.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the GMO plants that
Dialogue: 0,1:00:24.48,1:00:25.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you had to wait\Nfor another two,
Dialogue: 0,1:00:25.74,1:00:27.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,three, four years for
Dialogue: 0,1:00:27.00,1:00:29.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the research to\Nbe approved.
Dialogue: 0,1:00:36.77,1:00:38.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> These is this\Ncoolest for being
Dialogue: 0,1:00:38.82,1:00:41.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a scientists has\Nall over get.
Dialogue: 0,1:00:42.14,1:00:48.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> All of you have put\Nso much time, effort.
Dialogue: 0,1:00:48.08,1:00:50.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Your life's work\Nbasically is
Dialogue: 0,1:00:50.73,1:00:52.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this plant that people are
Dialogue: 0,1:00:52.50,1:00:54.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,having these big\Ndebates about.
Dialogue: 0,1:00:54.90,1:00:56.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,How frustrating\Nis that for you?
Dialogue: 0,1:00:56.82,1:00:59.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> What I see is how\Nfar we have come.
Dialogue: 0,1:00:59.74,1:01:01.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,These like we have now
Dialogue: 0,1:01:01.23,1:01:02.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a solution for the farmers.
Dialogue: 0,1:01:02.67,1:01:04.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So that good enough
Dialogue: 0,1:01:04.23,1:01:05.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to motivate me to\Ndo something more
Dialogue: 0,1:01:05.91,1:01:07.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to convince the\Npeople who have
Dialogue: 0,1:01:07.54,1:01:09.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,negative about\Nthese technology.
Dialogue: 0,1:01:09.78,1:01:11.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Give them the\Nscientists facts,
Dialogue: 0,1:01:11.62,1:01:14.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I feel like we\Ncan convince them.
Dialogue: 0,1:01:14.14,1:01:15.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> I am not
Dialogue: 0,1:01:15.84,1:01:18.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,convinced that you\Ncan convince them.
Dialogue: 0,1:01:18.94,1:01:21.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,One of the things that has
Dialogue: 0,1:01:21.00,1:01:25.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,been most difficult for\Nme is understanding
Dialogue: 0,1:01:25.04,1:01:27.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,how human beings\Nmake decisions.
Dialogue: 0,1:01:27.63,1:01:30.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We don't make decisions\Nbased on facts.
Dialogue: 0,1:01:30.54,1:01:34.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We make decisions\Nbased on our gut.
Dialogue: 0,1:01:34.41,1:01:37.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's some combination\Nof intuition
Dialogue: 0,1:01:37.20,1:01:40.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and emotion, and\Naffiliation.
Dialogue: 0,1:01:40.50,1:01:42.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I need to ask you, when
Dialogue: 0,1:01:42.42,1:01:45.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was the last time you\Nchanged your mind?
Dialogue: 0,1:01:45.06,1:01:48.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Think about it.\NIn the last year,
Dialogue: 0,1:01:48.57,1:01:50.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,have you changed your mind
Dialogue: 0,1:01:50.37,1:01:53.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about an issue\Nof substance?
Dialogue: 0,1:02:00.11,1:02:03.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> They haven't done\Nanything for Africa.
Dialogue: 0,1:02:03.06,1:02:04.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The lame shall not walk,
Dialogue: 0,1:02:04.98,1:02:06.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the blind shall not see,
Dialogue: 0,1:02:06.66,1:02:09.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the hungry shall\Nnot be fed.
Dialogue: 0,1:02:14.75,1:02:19.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Technology doesn't\Nhave a moral valence.
Dialogue: 0,1:02:19.76,1:02:22.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's how the\Ntechnology is used.
Dialogue: 0,1:02:22.47,1:02:24.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's the hammer\Nused to pound in
Dialogue: 0,1:02:24.42,1:02:26.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,nails and build a house
Dialogue: 0,1:02:26.19,1:02:27.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for the poor as\Nit's used to bash
Dialogue: 0,1:02:27.75,1:02:30.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the head of\Nyour neighbor.
Dialogue: 0,1:02:44.39,1:02:48.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>>We are now\Nstruggling with
Dialogue: 0,1:02:48.40,1:02:52.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the conventional system\Nof producing food.
Dialogue: 0,1:02:52.82,1:02:55.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Climate change\Nis a reality.
Dialogue: 0,1:02:55.60,1:02:58.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm awaiting another GM
Dialogue: 0,1:02:58.92,1:03:01.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,seed for drought tolerance.
Dialogue: 0,1:03:01.48,1:03:04.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm waiting really\Nimpatiently
Dialogue: 0,1:03:04.84,1:03:07.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because we're losing here.
Dialogue: 0,1:03:09.86,1:03:12.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> This has been about\N10 days of drought,
Dialogue: 0,1:03:12.54,1:03:13.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then a month\Nand recovery.
Dialogue: 0,1:03:13.95,1:03:15.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Our engineered\Nlands recovered,
Dialogue: 0,1:03:15.84,1:03:16.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as you've seen,\Nmuch better.
Dialogue: 0,1:03:16.94,1:03:19.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Well, they are back\Non controlling,
Dialogue: 0,1:03:19.10,1:03:22.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they've not recovered,\Nthey died [inaudible]
Dialogue: 0,1:03:22.44,1:03:24.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> They're\Nincredible. If we
Dialogue: 0,1:03:24.27,1:03:25.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,can reproduce this\Nin the field,
Dialogue: 0,1:03:25.89,1:03:29.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we can have a huge, huge\Neffect for farmers.
Dialogue: 0,1:03:29.13,1:03:31.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Genetic engineered\Nrice, it's not.
Dialogue: 0,1:03:31.22,1:03:33.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,No virtualization,\Nit's gone.
Dialogue: 0,1:03:33.72,1:03:36.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Then we stopped a genetic\Nengineered Alfalfa.
Dialogue: 0,1:03:36.15,1:03:37.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We assume, we're beaten,
Dialogue: 0,1:03:37.98,1:03:41.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,those are gone, not\Ngoing to happen.
Dialogue: 0,1:03:42.32,1:03:44.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Americans be aware,
Dialogue: 0,1:03:44.97,1:03:50.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,please be informed\Nthat do you whenever
Dialogue: 0,1:03:50.12,1:03:52.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you say no to
Dialogue: 0,1:03:52.16,1:03:57.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,GM technology, you're\Nsuppressing Africa.
Dialogue: 0,1:03:57.62,1:04:00.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,South Africa\Nand the rest of
Dialogue: 0,1:04:00.15,1:04:04.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the continent is\Nbeing left behind.
Dialogue: 0,1:04:30.41,1:04:33.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> With the global\Ndivide over GMOs
Dialogue: 0,1:04:33.24,1:04:35.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,getting more\Ncontentious every day,
Dialogue: 0,1:04:35.31,1:04:36.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the respected\Ndebate series,
Dialogue: 0,1:04:36.96,1:04:39.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,intelligence squared,\Ninvited top experts on
Dialogue: 0,1:04:39.63,1:04:41.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,both sides for a\Ncivil discourse
Dialogue: 0,1:04:41.85,1:04:44.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in front of a\Nlive audience.
Dialogue: 0,1:04:46.67,1:04:48.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Okay, we're letting
Dialogue: 0,1:04:48.39,1:04:49.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,everybody get settled in.
Dialogue: 0,1:04:49.88,1:04:52.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We have four debaters,\Ntwo teams of two,
Dialogue: 0,1:04:52.14,1:04:53.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,arguing it out over
Dialogue: 0,1:04:53.31,1:04:56.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this motion, genetically\Nmodified food.
Dialogue: 0,1:04:56.22,1:04:57.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Is this a good thing,
Dialogue: 0,1:04:57.64,1:04:59.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this genetic engineering?
Dialogue: 0,1:04:59.14,1:05:00.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Is it a safe thing?
Dialogue: 0,1:05:00.26,1:05:01.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Is it necessary?
Dialogue: 0,1:05:01.70,1:05:03.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Well, those\Nquestions sound like
Dialogue: 0,1:05:03.21,1:05:05.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the makings of a debate.\NSo let's have it.
Dialogue: 0,1:05:05.48,1:05:07.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yes or no to
Dialogue: 0,1:05:07.11,1:05:11.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this statement,\Ngenetically modify food.
Dialogue: 0,1:05:15.56,1:05:18.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Chuck, you are at\NWashington State.
Dialogue: 0,1:05:18.75,1:05:20.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You are known for\Nyour research on
Dialogue: 0,1:05:20.10,1:05:21.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,pesticide use\Nin particular.
Dialogue: 0,1:05:21.66,1:05:23.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You've debated with\Nus before actually.
Dialogue: 0,1:05:23.78,1:05:26.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You were a proponent of
Dialogue: 0,1:05:26.04,1:05:29.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,organic food and you\Nwon overwhelmingly.
Dialogue: 0,1:05:29.55,1:05:31.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So are you feeling\Nlucky again tonight?
Dialogue: 0,1:05:31.17,1:05:33.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> I am, John.
Dialogue: 0,1:05:33.09,1:05:35.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We're well prepared,\NMarty and I,
Dialogue: 0,1:05:35.04,1:05:36.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and since we have
Dialogue: 0,1:05:36.48,1:05:37.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the facts and science on
Dialogue: 0,1:05:37.59,1:05:39.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,our side, I think\Nwe'll be fine.
Dialogue: 0,1:05:40.73,1:05:44.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Part of me was\Nreticent to do it
Dialogue: 0,1:05:44.34,1:05:46.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because I thought it\Nwas a pavement know
Dialogue: 0,1:05:46.38,1:05:48.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in scenario in the\Nmiddle of New York City.
Dialogue: 0,1:05:48.76,1:05:52.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Also sitting alongside\NRobb Fraley,
Dialogue: 0,1:05:52.11,1:05:54.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who obviously is with\NMonsanto and just all
Dialogue: 0,1:05:54.75,1:05:56.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of the baggage\Nthat comes along
Dialogue: 0,1:05:56.07,1:05:57.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with that\Nparticular company.
Dialogue: 0,1:05:57.88,1:06:00.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Here to argue\Nfor the motion,
Dialogue: 0,1:06:00.09,1:06:01.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,please welcome\NRobert Fraley,
Dialogue: 0,1:06:01.29,1:06:03.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he is Executive Vice\NPresident and Chief
Dialogue: 0,1:06:03.30,1:06:05.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Technology Officer\Nat Monsanto.
Dialogue: 0,1:06:05.58,1:06:08.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Ladies and gentlemen,\NRobert Fraley.
Dialogue: 0,1:06:10.13,1:06:12.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm hearing hissing.
Dialogue: 0,1:06:12.38,1:06:13.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I would appreciate
Dialogue: 0,1:06:13.18,1:06:14.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the audience\Nsilence the hisser.
Dialogue: 0,1:06:14.70,1:06:17.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> I absolutely\Nthink that trust is
Dialogue: 0,1:06:17.37,1:06:20.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the central issue\Nwhen it comes
Dialogue: 0,1:06:20.34,1:06:24.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to Americans\Nrelationship with food.
Dialogue: 0,1:06:24.14,1:06:27.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> First of all, GMOs\Nare not the holy grail.
Dialogue: 0,1:06:27.50,1:06:29.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What they are is\Nan important tool.
Dialogue: 0,1:06:29.48,1:06:31.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They've enabled\Nfarmers to use
Dialogue: 0,1:06:31.29,1:06:32.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,safer and more
Dialogue: 0,1:06:32.64,1:06:34.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,environmentally\Nfriendly chemicals.
Dialogue: 0,1:06:34.48,1:06:36.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,GMOs, are they perfect?
Dialogue: 0,1:06:36.33,1:06:37.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Absolutely are not.
Dialogue: 0,1:06:37.76,1:06:39.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They need to be regulated,
Dialogue: 0,1:06:39.34,1:06:40.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they need to be\Nmanaged wisely
Dialogue: 0,1:06:40.74,1:06:42.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like any technology.
Dialogue: 0,1:06:42.72,1:06:44.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> I was there in
Dialogue: 0,1:06:44.13,1:06:45.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the early days when
Dialogue: 0,1:06:45.60,1:06:48.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Monsanto came up\Nwith its products.
Dialogue: 0,1:06:48.27,1:06:52.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Compared to the\Nearly vision,
Dialogue: 0,1:06:52.36,1:06:54.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's a big disappointment.
Dialogue: 0,1:06:54.26,1:06:56.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> GMO technology\Noften gets
Dialogue: 0,1:06:56.10,1:06:59.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,conflated with\NMonsanto and big egg,
Dialogue: 0,1:06:59.08,1:07:00.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but it's actually\Na breeding tool,
Dialogue: 0,1:07:00.92,1:07:03.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,one that can be used\Nfor many purposes.
Dialogue: 0,1:07:03.07,1:07:05.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,All of these GM\Napplications focus on
Dialogue: 0,1:07:05.54,1:07:06.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,controlling disease with
Dialogue: 0,1:07:06.68,1:07:09.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,genetics rather\Nthan chemicals.
Dialogue: 0,1:07:09.38,1:07:11.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,An objective that\NI would argue
Dialogue: 0,1:07:11.03,1:07:13.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is compatible\Nwith agroecology,
Dialogue: 0,1:07:13.16,1:07:14.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sustainability,
Dialogue: 0,1:07:14.30,1:07:15.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and feeding more people
Dialogue: 0,1:07:15.71,1:07:18.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,better with less\Nenvironmental impact.
Dialogue: 0,1:07:18.08,1:07:19.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Robin Allison, if
Dialogue: 0,1:07:19.66,1:07:21.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,all of what you\Nsaid was true,
Dialogue: 0,1:07:21.41,1:07:22.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I would be over
Dialogue: 0,1:07:22.43,1:07:24.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there at your side\Nof the table,
Dialogue: 0,1:07:24.68,1:07:28.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,going at it with poor\NMarty all by herself.
Dialogue: 0,1:07:28.78,1:07:30.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Rest assured, there is
Dialogue: 0,1:07:30.60,1:07:33.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,no consensus about the\Nsafety of G foods.
Dialogue: 0,1:07:33.08,1:07:34.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> At some point, consensus
Dialogue: 0,1:07:34.68,1:07:36.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,doesn't mean\Neverybody agrees.
Dialogue: 0,1:07:36.45,1:07:37.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It doesn't mean\Nthat there's
Dialogue: 0,1:07:37.35,1:07:39.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a complete 100\Npercent alignment,
Dialogue: 0,1:07:39.00,1:07:40.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,just like there isn't\Non global warming.
Dialogue: 0,1:07:40.74,1:07:42.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But the science speaks\Nfor itself here,
Dialogue: 0,1:07:42.54,1:07:43.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the science has
Dialogue: 0,1:07:43.59,1:07:45.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,reached a\Nconsensus on this.
Dialogue: 0,1:07:45.84,1:07:49.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> We live in an age of\Nso much information.
Dialogue: 0,1:07:49.34,1:07:51.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The individual sees\None article say
Dialogue: 0,1:07:51.48,1:07:52.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,one thing and another
Dialogue: 0,1:07:52.80,1:07:53.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,article say the\Nother thing,
Dialogue: 0,1:07:53.97,1:07:55.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the individual can only
Dialogue: 0,1:07:55.35,1:07:57.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,weight these the same way,
Dialogue: 0,1:07:57.02,1:07:59.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and that creates\Ndissonance.
Dialogue: 0,1:07:59.16,1:08:01.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That creates a\Nlot of confusion.
Dialogue: 0,1:08:01.50,1:08:04.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Dissonance and confusion\Ncreate distrust.
Dialogue: 0,1:08:04.50,1:08:06.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> John asked\Nabout to open up
Dialogue: 0,1:08:06.48,1:08:08.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a discussion of the\Nenvironmental impacts.
Dialogue: 0,1:08:08.52,1:08:11.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When you spray\None herbicide
Dialogue: 0,1:08:11.82,1:08:14.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,over and over\Nagain on weeds,
Dialogue: 0,1:08:14.92,1:08:16.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they're going to\Ndevelop resistance.
Dialogue: 0,1:08:16.82,1:08:18.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> So I want to take\Nthat to Rob Fraley.
Dialogue: 0,1:08:18.14,1:08:20.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You've all heard of\Nantibiotic resistance,
Dialogue: 0,1:08:20.28,1:08:22.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's a problem,\Nyou're aware of it.
Dialogue: 0,1:08:22.29,1:08:24.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So what should\Ndrug companies do?
Dialogue: 0,1:08:24.15,1:08:25.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Should they not develop
Dialogue: 0,1:08:25.17,1:08:26.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,new antibiotics\Njust because
Dialogue: 0,1:08:26.52,1:08:26.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,those has become
Dialogue: 0,1:08:26.97,1:08:29.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a resistance to\Nan antibiotic?
Dialogue: 0,1:08:29.02,1:08:31.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Absolutely not.\NRound up controls
Dialogue: 0,1:08:31.50,1:08:32.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,hundreds of weeds.
Dialogue: 0,1:08:32.64,1:08:34.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In this country, 12 of
Dialogue: 0,1:08:34.02,1:08:35.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,them have become resistant.
Dialogue: 0,1:08:35.44,1:08:37.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Its still controls\Nhundreds of weeds.
Dialogue: 0,1:08:37.35,1:08:39.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It needs to be\Nused effectively.
Dialogue: 0,1:08:39.21,1:08:40.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Chuck, you are\None of the first
Dialogue: 0,1:08:40.50,1:08:41.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,ones to point out\Nthat we should
Dialogue: 0,1:08:41.73,1:08:44.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,actually use combinations\Nof herbicides,
Dialogue: 0,1:08:44.25,1:08:46.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and that's what growers\Nare doing today,
Dialogue: 0,1:08:46.16,1:08:47.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and that's one of the\Nbenefits of being
Dialogue: 0,1:08:47.97,1:08:50.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,smarter and stewarding\Nthese products better.
Dialogue: 0,1:08:50.98,1:08:54.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Yes, that's true.
Dialogue: 0,1:08:55.43,1:08:57.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> The challenge of feeding
Dialogue: 0,1:08:57.75,1:08:59.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the world's hungry\Npeople is not
Dialogue: 0,1:08:59.37,1:09:02.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,one that is met by\Nproduction of any kind.
Dialogue: 0,1:09:02.43,1:09:03.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I mean, if you want to
Dialogue: 0,1:09:03.84,1:09:05.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,feed hungry people\Naround the world,
Dialogue: 0,1:09:05.97,1:09:08.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I can give you a list\Nof 10 things to do.
Dialogue: 0,1:09:08.31,1:09:09.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You can build roads,
Dialogue: 0,1:09:09.72,1:09:11.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you can raise\Ntheir incomes,
Dialogue: 0,1:09:11.97,1:09:13.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you can change the\Nrole of women,
Dialogue: 0,1:09:13.94,1:09:15.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you can help people make
Dialogue: 0,1:09:15.24,1:09:16.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,their own decisions\Nabout what
Dialogue: 0,1:09:16.62,1:09:18.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they want to grow and\Nhelp them grow it.
Dialogue: 0,1:09:18.27,1:09:19.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> I absolutely agree.
Dialogue: 0,1:09:19.44,1:09:21.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's a complicated question
Dialogue: 0,1:09:21.20,1:09:23.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that will take all of\Nthe tools we have,
Dialogue: 0,1:09:23.62,1:09:25.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so couldn't agree more.
Dialogue: 0,1:09:25.35,1:09:26.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> One part I think
Dialogue: 0,1:09:26.91,1:09:28.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of Margaret's\Nargument is that
Dialogue: 0,1:09:28.40,1:09:30.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the focus on genetically\Nengineered crops
Dialogue: 0,1:09:30.66,1:09:32.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sucks the oxygen\Nout of the room.
Dialogue: 0,1:09:32.79,1:09:34.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> I think the\Ndebate around
Dialogue: 0,1:09:34.60,1:09:37.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,GMO crops sucks all the\Nair out of the room.
Dialogue: 0,1:09:39.20,1:09:41.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> The GMO debate is not
Dialogue: 0,1:09:41.82,1:09:43.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about GMOs at all\Nat this point.
Dialogue: 0,1:09:43.84,1:09:46.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,GMOs are a metaphor for
Dialogue: 0,1:09:46.65,1:09:49.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,our relationship with food
Dialogue: 0,1:09:49.35,1:09:50.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and our food system.
Dialogue: 0,1:09:50.48,1:09:51.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Here to give
Dialogue: 0,1:09:51.87,1:09:53.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,his closing\Nstatement against
Dialogue: 0,1:09:53.61,1:09:54.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this motion,\NChuck Benbrook.
Dialogue: 0,1:09:54.80,1:09:58.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> It's really turned\Ninto a arms race with
Dialogue: 0,1:09:58.50,1:10:03.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,weeds using herbicides\Nas the sole hammer.
Dialogue: 0,1:10:03.14,1:10:06.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In 2014, USDA data\Nshows pretty clear it's
Dialogue: 0,1:10:06.57,1:10:09.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about 230 million pounds
Dialogue: 0,1:10:09.24,1:10:10.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of glyphosate was applied.
Dialogue: 0,1:10:10.70,1:10:11.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Even though it's generally
Dialogue: 0,1:10:11.97,1:10:14.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,regarded as a relatively\Nsafe pesticide,
Dialogue: 0,1:10:14.46,1:10:17.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there's reason for\Nserious worry here.
Dialogue: 0,1:10:17.72,1:10:19.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Sometimes the risks
Dialogue: 0,1:10:19.34,1:10:21.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that concern people and
Dialogue: 0,1:10:21.00,1:10:22.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the risks that kill people
Dialogue: 0,1:10:22.50,1:10:24.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are entirely different.
Dialogue: 0,1:10:24.33,1:10:26.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,For too long, the\Ndebate over the merits
Dialogue: 0,1:10:26.82,1:10:29.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of genetically modified\Nfood has focused
Dialogue: 0,1:10:29.19,1:10:31.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on unrealized\Nhypothetical risks and
Dialogue: 0,1:10:31.71,1:10:33.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,has been conflated with
Dialogue: 0,1:10:33.06,1:10:34.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the use of pesticides.
Dialogue: 0,1:10:34.54,1:10:37.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It is not addressed\Nhow GM could help with
Dialogue: 0,1:10:37.65,1:10:39.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the very real risks faced
Dialogue: 0,1:10:39.18,1:10:40.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,by the hungry and\Nmalnourished.
Dialogue: 0,1:10:40.92,1:10:42.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There are costs associated
Dialogue: 0,1:10:42.75,1:10:44.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to excessive precaution.
Dialogue: 0,1:10:44.31,1:10:46.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Vote yes for GM food.
Dialogue: 0,1:10:46.63,1:10:48.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> This is obviously\Na very, very
Dialogue: 0,1:10:48.11,1:10:49.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,passionate debate.
Dialogue: 0,1:10:49.16,1:10:50.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> If you side with this
Dialogue: 0,1:10:50.33,1:10:51.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,motion and with this team,
Dialogue: 0,1:10:51.41,1:10:52.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,push number 1, against
Dialogue: 0,1:10:52.82,1:10:55.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the motion and this\Nteam, push number 2.
Dialogue: 0,1:10:55.02,1:10:56.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Confirmation bias is
Dialogue: 0,1:10:56.64,1:10:59.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,people's tendency to only
Dialogue: 0,1:10:59.08,1:11:02.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,assimilate information\Nwhich confirms
Dialogue: 0,1:11:02.18,1:11:03.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what they already believe,
Dialogue: 0,1:11:03.52,1:11:04.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and everybody does it.
Dialogue: 0,1:11:04.42,1:11:05.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The confirmation bias is
Dialogue: 0,1:11:05.52,1:11:06.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,why right-wing has watched
Dialogue: 0,1:11:06.99,1:11:08.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Fox News and left-wing
Dialogue: 0,1:11:08.91,1:11:10.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,has read The\NGuardian online,
Dialogue: 0,1:11:10.29,1:11:11.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but it feels\Nmore comfortable
Dialogue: 0,1:11:11.79,1:11:12.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to read information
Dialogue: 0,1:11:12.90,1:11:14.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which tells you\Nthat you're right.
Dialogue: 0,1:11:14.76,1:11:17.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Confirmation bias\Nhas a function
Dialogue: 0,1:11:17.37,1:11:19.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,almost in terms\Nof mental health,
Dialogue: 0,1:11:19.05,1:11:21.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,keeping you failing, saying
Dialogue: 0,1:11:21.15,1:11:22.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you understand how\Nthe world works.
Dialogue: 0,1:11:22.98,1:11:25.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But confirmation bias is
Dialogue: 0,1:11:25.17,1:11:27.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,also very dangerous because
Dialogue: 0,1:11:27.30,1:11:29.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it means that we
Dialogue: 0,1:11:29.70,1:11:31.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,don't listen to evidence
Dialogue: 0,1:11:31.20,1:11:33.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which challenges\Nour beliefs.
Dialogue: 0,1:11:34.10,1:11:36.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Let's look at\Nthe first vote.
Dialogue: 0,1:11:36.30,1:11:37.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In the first vote\Non the motion,
Dialogue: 0,1:11:37.82,1:11:39.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,genetically modified food,
Dialogue: 0,1:11:39.60,1:11:43.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,32 percent agreed, 30\Npercent were against,
Dialogue: 0,1:11:43.23,1:11:45.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,38 percent were undecided.
Dialogue: 0,1:11:45.45,1:11:47.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Those are the\Nfirst results.
Dialogue: 0,1:11:47.62,1:11:49.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Remember again, the\Nteam's number has
Dialogue: 0,1:11:49.02,1:11:50.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,changed the most\Nbetween first
Dialogue: 0,1:11:50.34,1:11:51.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and second will be declared
Dialogue: 0,1:11:51.45,1:11:53.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,our winner. Let's look\Nat the second vote.
Dialogue: 0,1:11:53.37,1:11:54.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The team arguing\Nfor the motion,
Dialogue: 0,1:11:54.60,1:11:56.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,their second vote\Nwas 60 percent,
Dialogue: 0,1:11:56.07,1:11:58.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they went from 32\Npercent to 60 percent.
Dialogue: 0,1:11:58.80,1:12:00.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They picked up 28\Npercentage points,
Dialogue: 0,1:12:00.75,1:12:01.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that is the number to beat.
Dialogue: 0,1:12:01.95,1:12:02.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But let's look at
Dialogue: 0,1:12:02.49,1:12:03.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the team against\Nthe motion,
Dialogue: 0,1:12:03.45,1:12:05.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,their first vote was 30\Npercent, second vote,
Dialogue: 0,1:12:05.80,1:12:08.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,only 31 percent only\Na one percent move,
Dialogue: 0,1:12:08.10,1:12:10.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that means the team\Narguing for the motion,
Dialogue: 0,1:12:10.64,1:12:12.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,genetically modified food
Dialogue: 0,1:12:12.16,1:12:13.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,has carried this debate.
Dialogue: 0,1:12:13.38,1:12:14.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Our congratulations to
Dialogue: 0,1:12:14.43,1:12:15.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,them and thank you for me,
Dialogue: 0,1:12:15.72,1:12:17.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,John Donvan, an\NIntelligence Squared, US.
Dialogue: 0,1:12:17.96,1:12:26.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We'll see you next time.
Dialogue: 0,1:12:26.29,1:12:29.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> [inaudible].
Dialogue: 0,1:12:29.28,1:12:29.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> I don't know.
Dialogue: 0,1:12:29.64,1:12:33.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He's so charismatic,\Nthis is so good.
Dialogue: 0,1:12:33.44,1:12:35.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> I convinced my husband
Dialogue: 0,1:12:35.52,1:12:36.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[inaudible] , good job.
Dialogue: 0,1:12:36.90,1:12:37.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Thank you for coming.
Dialogue: 0,1:12:37.84,1:12:38.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> What did you\Nthink of it?
Dialogue: 0,1:12:38.92,1:12:40.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> It's first\Ntime I've seen
Dialogue: 0,1:12:40.26,1:12:41.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,science went to debate.
Dialogue: 0,1:12:41.68,1:12:43.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But I was also\Nstark by just
Dialogue: 0,1:12:43.38,1:12:45.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,how weak the arguments\Nare for the antis.
Dialogue: 0,1:12:45.03,1:12:47.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There was nothing even\Nremotely persuasive.
Dialogue: 0,1:12:47.70,1:12:49.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They're saying that\Nwe've been trying to
Dialogue: 0,1:12:49.20,1:12:51.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,stop for 15 years\Nhasn't worked yet.
Dialogue: 0,1:12:51.60,1:12:53.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now, what of kind of\Nargument is that?
Dialogue: 0,1:12:53.46,1:12:54.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> There's really no food
Dialogue: 0,1:12:54.66,1:12:55.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that's 100 percent safe.
Dialogue: 0,1:12:55.95,1:12:57.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Even the turkey\Ndinner you had for
Dialogue: 0,1:12:57.24,1:12:58.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,thanksgiving had
Dialogue: 0,1:12:58.26,1:12:59.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,some risk\Nassociated with it.
Dialogue: 0,1:12:59.76,1:13:02.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So you have to\Nmanage that risk.
Dialogue: 0,1:13:02.49,1:13:04.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> I didn't quite\Nget your position.
Dialogue: 0,1:13:04.14,1:13:06.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Are you for herbicide\Ntolerant crops?
Dialogue: 0,1:13:06.50,1:13:09.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Would you support them?\NIf this debate was
Dialogue: 0,1:13:09.00,1:13:11.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,just for or against\Nnot the other apps.
Dialogue: 0,1:13:11.43,1:13:12.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> You know Humboldt\NCounty just banned
Dialogue: 0,1:13:12.66,1:13:14.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,genetically modified crops.
Dialogue: 0,1:13:14.01,1:13:15.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I was talking\Nto a farmer out
Dialogue: 0,1:13:15.36,1:13:17.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there who grows\NRoundup Ready Corn.
Dialogue: 0,1:13:17.76,1:13:19.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I said to him, What\Nare you going to
Dialogue: 0,1:13:19.05,1:13:20.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,do now that it's\Nbeen banned?"
Dialogue: 0,1:13:20.85,1:13:23.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He said, "Well,\NI'll obey the ban,
Dialogue: 0,1:13:23.58,1:13:26.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'll grow\Nconventional corn,
Dialogue: 0,1:13:26.19,1:13:27.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I'll go back to using
Dialogue: 0,1:13:27.58,1:13:29.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a more toxic herbicide."
Dialogue: 0,1:13:29.04,1:13:31.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That is the consequence\Nof that ban.
Dialogue: 0,1:13:31.16,1:13:32.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> The other good, they're\Ngood applications.
Dialogue: 0,1:13:32.40,1:13:33.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm not going to be\Nthe baby on this,
Dialogue: 0,1:13:33.30,1:13:33.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,some good ones and
Dialogue: 0,1:13:33.96,1:13:34.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,maybe some good\Nones bye bye.
Dialogue: 0,1:13:34.68,1:13:36.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But that app is\Na very bad app.
Dialogue: 0,1:13:36.68,1:13:38.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Support the good\Napps and say,
Dialogue: 0,1:13:38.19,1:13:39.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"You know guys, this
Dialogue: 0,1:13:39.15,1:13:41.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is not application\Nwhich you should use."
Dialogue: 0,1:13:44.69,1:13:47.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> They haven't done\Nanything for Africa.
Dialogue: 0,1:13:47.40,1:13:49.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The lame shall not walk,
Dialogue: 0,1:13:49.56,1:13:51.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the blind shall not see,
Dialogue: 0,1:13:51.24,1:13:53.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the hungry shall\Nnot be fed.
Dialogue: 0,1:13:53.68,1:13:55.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> When Andrew\NKim Burrellay,
Dialogue: 0,1:13:55.90,1:13:57.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,acknowledged\Nthat there were
Dialogue: 0,1:13:57.22,1:13:59.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,good apps for GMOs,
Dialogue: 0,1:13:59.84,1:14:01.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,either that was a\Nslip of the tongue,
Dialogue: 0,1:14:01.17,1:14:02.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or that was an
Dialogue: 0,1:14:02.46,1:14:03.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,incredibly meaningful\Nadmission.
Dialogue: 0,1:14:03.93,1:14:05.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because, I've never heard
Dialogue: 0,1:14:05.73,1:14:07.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,anyone of his stature
Dialogue: 0,1:14:07.06,1:14:08.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the anti GMO movement,
Dialogue: 0,1:14:08.37,1:14:10.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,admit that this\Ntechnology can
Dialogue: 0,1:14:10.08,1:14:13.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,ever have a\Nbeneficial purpose.
Dialogue: 0,1:14:15.59,1:14:19.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Let me ask you this,\Nis it true or false
Dialogue: 0,1:14:19.35,1:14:21.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that this technology has
Dialogue: 0,1:14:21.63,1:14:23.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,increased the use\Nof pesticides?
Dialogue: 0,1:14:23.82,1:14:25.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> It has decreased\Nthe use of pesticides.
Dialogue: 0,1:14:25.83,1:14:27.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> That's why you\Nguys don't agree.
Dialogue: 0,1:14:27.39,1:14:29.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> That's what\Nthe science says.
Dialogue: 0,1:14:29.07,1:14:30.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> So that the\Nmoment we come to.
Dialogue: 0,1:14:30.42,1:14:32.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So that right there I\Ncan investigate that.
Dialogue: 0,1:14:32.64,1:14:34.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> The papaya doesn't\Nuse anything.
Dialogue: 0,1:14:34.29,1:14:36.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> The papaya is\Npretty impressive.
Dialogue: 0,1:14:36.09,1:14:37.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So everybody, for\Nyou recording,
Dialogue: 0,1:14:37.89,1:14:39.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this is something I'm\Ngoing to look into.
Dialogue: 0,1:14:39.44,1:14:41.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Does it increase or
Dialogue: 0,1:14:41.19,1:14:43.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,decrease the use\Nof pesticides?
Dialogue: 0,1:14:43.05,1:14:47.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Don't forget look at\Nthe lens on yourself.
Dialogue: 0,1:14:47.69,1:14:49.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Thanks, Bill.\NI appreciate it.
Dialogue: 0,1:14:49.77,1:14:51.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Pleasure to meet you.
Dialogue: 0,1:14:51.27,1:14:52.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So be with the\Nscience gods.
Dialogue: 0,1:14:52.84,1:14:54.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So excited.
Dialogue: 0,1:14:54.96,1:14:57.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Like it's love\Nhim and so well,
Dialogue: 0,1:14:57.54,1:14:59.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because there are all\Nkind of science nerds.
Dialogue: 0,1:14:59.10,1:15:01.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So that's going to really
Dialogue: 0,1:15:01.02,1:15:03.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,amplify my status\Nat home, I think.
Dialogue: 0,1:15:03.57,1:15:04.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Maybe make them
Dialogue: 0,1:15:04.98,1:15:07.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,understand what I\Nwas doing here.
Dialogue: 0,1:15:08.00,1:15:10.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Thanks so much for\Nyour support, dude.
Dialogue: 0,1:15:10.100,1:15:12.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Really, really\Nappreciate it.
Dialogue: 0,1:15:12.21,1:15:13.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm so excited about
Dialogue: 0,1:15:13.23,1:15:15.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,getting heavily\Nin the meat,
Dialogue: 0,1:15:15.09,1:15:16.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because I've been\Nkind of captured
Dialogue: 0,1:15:16.59,1:15:20.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,by GMO stuff for\Nseems like forever.
Dialogue: 0,1:15:20.08,1:15:21.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Well, I hope\Nwe could throw
Dialogue: 0,1:15:21.42,1:15:22.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,your something\Nnew to work out.
Dialogue: 0,1:15:22.84,1:15:23.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Yeah.
Dialogue: 0,1:15:23.86,1:15:25.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Well, Benbrook's side
Dialogue: 0,1:15:25.65,1:15:27.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,lost this GMO debate.
Dialogue: 0,1:15:27.56,1:15:30.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,His influence and his\Nstory didn't end there.
Dialogue: 0,1:15:30.96,1:15:32.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> I'm deeply troubled by
Dialogue: 0,1:15:32.40,1:15:34.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this sort of erosion of
Dialogue: 0,1:15:34.76,1:15:37.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the integrity of\Nscience and the whole
Dialogue: 0,1:15:37.08,1:15:39.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,debate about genetically\Nengineered food.
Dialogue: 0,1:15:39.86,1:15:41.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> One study co-authored by
Dialogue: 0,1:15:41.43,1:15:42.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Washington State University
Dialogue: 0,1:15:42.87,1:15:44.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,researcher\NCharles Benbrook.
Dialogue: 0,1:15:44.43,1:15:46.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Over the years,\NBenbrook has become the
Dialogue: 0,1:15:46.72,1:15:49.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,go-to scientist for\Nthe anti GMO movement.
Dialogue: 0,1:15:49.58,1:15:51.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> The paper has been
Dialogue: 0,1:15:51.24,1:15:54.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,downloaded over\N224,000 times.
Dialogue: 0,1:15:54.70,1:15:56.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> His work has been\Nquoted, shared,
Dialogue: 0,1:15:56.82,1:16:00.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and retweeted\Naround the world to
Dialogue: 0,1:16:00.48,1:16:01.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,help support arguments and
Dialogue: 0,1:16:01.86,1:16:04.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,actions against\Nthis technology.
Dialogue: 0,1:16:04.20,1:16:06.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> A major finding\Nis that while
Dialogue: 0,1:16:06.15,1:16:08.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,all milk is healthy,
Dialogue: 0,1:16:08.01,1:16:10.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,organic milk is\Neven healthier.
Dialogue: 0,1:16:10.46,1:16:12.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> While also\Nfavoring organic,
Dialogue: 0,1:16:12.75,1:16:14.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as the perfect alternative.
Dialogue: 0,1:16:14.58,1:16:15.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> For more lawmakers
Dialogue: 0,1:16:15.72,1:16:16.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,passed the bill mandating,
Dialogue: 0,1:16:16.83,1:16:17.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that genetically modified
Dialogue: 0,1:16:17.94,1:16:24.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,food must be labeled.
Dialogue: 0,1:16:24.19,1:16:25.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> [inaudible] , and I'm
Dialogue: 0,1:16:25.77,1:16:26.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,whispering here because I
Dialogue: 0,1:16:26.88,1:16:30.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,might That's
Dialogue: 0,1:16:30.48,1:16:33.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,supposed to be\Nsomeone [inaudible].
Dialogue: 0,1:16:33.60,1:16:34.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> We might funding you,
Dialogue: 0,1:16:34.89,1:16:36.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we made their contribution
Dialogue: 0,1:16:36.92,1:16:39.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to that defense fund.
Dialogue: 0,1:16:40.25,1:16:43.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Through a public\Nrecords request,
Dialogue: 0,1:16:43.26,1:16:45.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The New York Times\Ndiscovered that
Dialogue: 0,1:16:45.18,1:16:47.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Benbrook's studies\Nmay not have
Dialogue: 0,1:16:47.04,1:16:49.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,been as independent\Nas he portrayed.
Dialogue: 0,1:16:49.65,1:16:53.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> What I've seen is\Nthat he is willing to
Dialogue: 0,1:16:53.19,1:16:55.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,actually type
Dialogue: 0,1:16:55.64,1:16:58.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,funding to provide\Nparticular outcomes.
Dialogue: 0,1:16:58.35,1:16:59.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's really\Nthe antithesis
Dialogue: 0,1:16:59.94,1:17:01.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of what a scientist\Nis prepared to do.
Dialogue: 0,1:17:01.92,1:17:04.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Scientists will usually,\Nif they're funded by
Dialogue: 0,1:17:04.50,1:17:07.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,industry, it's\Nunrestricted grant.
Dialogue: 0,1:17:07.80,1:17:09.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There's no\Noutcomes expected.
Dialogue: 0,1:17:09.66,1:17:12.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There certainly no\Npredetermined conclusions
Dialogue: 0,1:17:12.15,1:17:14.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as to what the study\Nis going to say.
Dialogue: 0,1:17:14.49,1:17:16.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's not how\Nscience works.
Dialogue: 0,1:17:16.92,1:17:18.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's the title that\Ninforms your opinion,
Dialogue: 0,1:17:18.36,1:17:19.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,not who funded you.
Dialogue: 0,1:17:19.65,1:17:21.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Some of the\Nimportant funders
Dialogue: 0,1:17:21.99,1:17:24.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,would be: Whole Foods,
Dialogue: 0,1:17:24.36,1:17:29.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Annie's, Organic\NValley, Stony Field.
Dialogue: 0,1:17:29.84,1:17:31.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Do you think some in the
Dialogue: 0,1:17:31.23,1:17:33.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,organic or natural\Nfoods industry,
Dialogue: 0,1:17:33.48,1:17:35.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,have used your work to
Dialogue: 0,1:17:35.22,1:17:37.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,help themselves\Nfigure out GMOs,.
Dialogue: 0,1:17:37.72,1:17:42.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> I think certainly\Nto some extent that
Dialogue: 0,1:17:42.26,1:17:46.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that is how the work\Nthat I did was utilized.
Dialogue: 0,1:17:46.59,1:17:50.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But the way I\Nfeel about it is,
Dialogue: 0,1:17:50.54,1:17:53.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,why shouldn't the\Norganic industry have
Dialogue: 0,1:17:53.67,1:17:56.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the same right as\NMonsanto or Syngenta,
Dialogue: 0,1:17:56.86,1:17:59.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or ADM or Kraft foods.
Dialogue: 0,1:17:59.82,1:18:01.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Don't you think\Nevery company on
Dialogue: 0,1:18:01.86,1:18:03.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,all sides of this debate
Dialogue: 0,1:18:03.36,1:18:04.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,will use whatever science
Dialogue: 0,1:18:04.89,1:18:06.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they think supports
Dialogue: 0,1:18:06.87,1:18:10.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,their public posture\Nand their messaging.
Dialogue: 0,1:18:10.65,1:18:12.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Of course, they're\Ngoing to use it.
Dialogue: 0,1:18:12.34,1:18:13.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> But are any of those
Dialogue: 0,1:18:13.65,1:18:15.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,companies trying\Nto convince
Dialogue: 0,1:18:15.18,1:18:16.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,me that organic food
Dialogue: 0,1:18:16.74,1:18:18.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,will give my kids cancer?
Dialogue: 0,1:18:18.26,1:18:19.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> No, I'm not saying that.
Dialogue: 0,1:18:19.74,1:18:21.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Okay, that's\Nwhat I'm saying.
Dialogue: 0,1:18:21.40,1:18:22.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Many scientists and
Dialogue: 0,1:18:22.92,1:18:24.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,science journalists\Nspoke out
Dialogue: 0,1:18:24.82,1:18:25.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,against the bias and
Dialogue: 0,1:18:25.95,1:18:29.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,misleading information\Nin Benbrook's work.
Dialogue: 0,1:18:55.97,1:19:00.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The profit motive is\Na double-edged sword.
Dialogue: 0,1:19:00.92,1:19:04.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It can lead to innovation,
Dialogue: 0,1:19:04.28,1:19:08.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as well as temptation.
Dialogue: 0,1:19:08.60,1:19:11.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> When you look at\Nthe people out there
Dialogue: 0,1:19:11.61,1:19:14.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who are pushing\Nagainst GMOs,
Dialogue: 0,1:19:14.04,1:19:16.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and who are\Npushing for GMOs,
Dialogue: 0,1:19:16.30,1:19:20.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there are real marketers\Non both sides.
Dialogue: 0,1:19:24.83,1:19:26.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What's interesting to me
Dialogue: 0,1:19:26.97,1:19:30.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is that you can get\Npast those people.
Dialogue: 0,1:19:30.39,1:19:33.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There are scientists who
Dialogue: 0,1:19:33.30,1:19:34.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,their incentive is to
Dialogue: 0,1:19:34.89,1:19:37.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,be impartial and\Nweigh the evidence
Dialogue: 0,1:19:37.02,1:19:39.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and to figure out\Nreal solutions,
Dialogue: 0,1:19:39.44,1:19:42.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and not to push an agenda.
Dialogue: 0,1:19:44.12,1:19:46.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Ban GMO. Ban GMO.\NBan GMO. Ban GMO.
Dialogue: 0,1:19:46.35,1:19:49.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> After years of March\NAgainst Monsanto,
Dialogue: 0,1:19:49.06,1:19:51.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,pushing false\Nfears around GMOs,
Dialogue: 0,1:19:51.66,1:19:53.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a group of young\Nscientists marched
Dialogue: 0,1:19:53.86,1:19:57.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a counter protest,\NMarch Against Myths.
Dialogue: 0,1:19:57.64,1:20:00.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Three, five,\Nseven, nine.
Dialogue: 0,1:20:00.09,1:20:01.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> GMO are taking up.
Dialogue: 0,1:20:01.48,1:20:02.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Science is completely
Dialogue: 0,1:20:02.61,1:20:04.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,counter to being\Nan activist.
Dialogue: 0,1:20:04.89,1:20:06.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,As an activist,\Nyou want to get
Dialogue: 0,1:20:06.63,1:20:08.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the megaphone and\Nyou want to say,
Dialogue: 0,1:20:08.26,1:20:10.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,these people are damaging
Dialogue: 0,1:20:10.80,1:20:12.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the planet, they're\Ncutting down the trees.
Dialogue: 0,1:20:12.22,1:20:13.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You don't want to stand
Dialogue: 0,1:20:13.08,1:20:14.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there with the\Nmicrophone is say,
Dialogue: 0,1:20:14.18,1:20:15.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"This is a very\Nsubtle issue,
Dialogue: 0,1:20:15.57,1:20:16.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there's lots of\Ncomplications and we
Dialogue: 0,1:20:16.80,1:20:18.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,need more objective\Nevidence."
Dialogue: 0,1:20:18.36,1:20:20.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> When did you ever\Nhear? "What do we want?"
Dialogue: 0,1:20:20.58,1:20:22.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"We want peer\Nview data which
Dialogue: 0,1:20:22.18,1:20:23.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,objectively defines
Dialogue: 0,1:20:23.28,1:20:24.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the nature of the problem."
Dialogue: 0,1:20:24.75,1:20:26.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> "When do we want it?"
Dialogue: 0,1:20:26.24,1:20:26.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> "When do we want it?"
Dialogue: 0,1:20:26.85,1:20:28.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Well, at least\Nthree years hence,
Dialogue: 0,1:20:28.20,1:20:29.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for people to have time
Dialogue: 0,1:20:29.16,1:20:31.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to examined the data."
Dialogue: 0,1:20:35.24,1:20:37.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> What do you want?
Dialogue: 0,1:20:37.50,1:20:38.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Safe technology.
Dialogue: 0,1:20:38.91,1:20:39.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> When do you want it?
Dialogue: 0,1:20:39.81,1:20:41.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> We already have it.
Dialogue: 0,1:20:41.13,1:20:42.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> There are all of
Dialogue: 0,1:20:42.30,1:20:43.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,these myths that are being
Dialogue: 0,1:20:43.35,1:20:45.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,promoted by March\NAgainst Monsanto,
Dialogue: 0,1:20:45.58,1:20:47.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and what can we\Ndo about it?
Dialogue: 0,1:20:47.43,1:20:50.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> They are good people.
Dialogue: 0,1:20:50.24,1:20:52.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They want the best\Nfor themselves.
Dialogue: 0,1:20:52.38,1:20:53.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They want the best\Nfor their children.
Dialogue: 0,1:20:53.61,1:20:55.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They want the best\Nfor the world.
Dialogue: 0,1:20:55.08,1:20:56.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They have good intentions,
Dialogue: 0,1:20:56.34,1:20:58.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but they don't\Nhave the facts.
Dialogue: 0,1:20:58.22,1:21:01.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If you turn in\Nyour protest gear,
Dialogue: 0,1:21:01.18,1:21:04.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we will buy you a beer.
Dialogue: 0,1:21:04.00,1:21:07.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> I'm not\Nfighting for GMOs.
Dialogue: 0,1:21:07.22,1:21:11.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm fighting for the\Nability to use science,
Dialogue: 0,1:21:11.10,1:21:13.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to make the best\Ndecisions that we can.
Dialogue: 0,1:21:13.90,1:21:15.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If you throw science out,
Dialogue: 0,1:21:15.33,1:21:16.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then there's nothing.
Dialogue: 0,1:21:16.92,1:21:18.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's just kind of\Nan amorphous blob
Dialogue: 0,1:21:18.96,1:21:21.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of competing worldviews.
Dialogue: 0,1:21:22.88,1:21:24.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Emma and her husband
Dialogue: 0,1:21:24.93,1:21:27.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Washington are\Nexpanding their role as
Dialogue: 0,1:21:27.06,1:21:29.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,educators by building\Na school to teach
Dialogue: 0,1:21:29.86,1:21:33.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,all about food, farming,\Nand agriculture.
Dialogue: 0,1:21:33.87,1:21:36.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> We visit a\Nfarmer whose farm
Dialogue: 0,1:21:36.50,1:21:39.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was dying because\Nof banana wilt,
Dialogue: 0,1:21:39.42,1:21:41.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and she was actually\Ndying with it.
Dialogue: 0,1:21:41.60,1:21:44.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They get a gene that is
Dialogue: 0,1:21:44.40,1:21:48.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,resistant and put\Nit in the matoke,
Dialogue: 0,1:21:48.36,1:21:50.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the matoke\Nwill stay matoke.
Dialogue: 0,1:21:50.91,1:21:52.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> No banana wilt.
Dialogue: 0,1:21:52.10,1:21:53.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> With no banana wilt.
Dialogue: 0,1:21:53.94,1:21:56.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Does it make sense for\Nthat thing to wither?
Dialogue: 0,1:21:56.91,1:21:58.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because you are\Nso against it.
Dialogue: 0,1:21:58.68,1:21:59.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But then at the\Nend of the day,
Dialogue: 0,1:21:59.52,1:22:00.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we don't have food.
Dialogue: 0,1:22:00.64,1:22:03.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What does food make us?
Dialogue: 0,1:22:03.03,1:22:04.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If you don't have food,\Nthen you're going to
Dialogue: 0,1:22:04.26,1:22:06.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,steal, you're going\Nto kill someone.
Dialogue: 0,1:22:06.52,1:22:12.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,A lot of crime or\Nincorporate science.
Dialogue: 0,1:22:12.26,1:22:15.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So we urge you to\Ntell your relatives,
Dialogue: 0,1:22:15.07,1:22:16.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,your dads, your aunties,
Dialogue: 0,1:22:16.92,1:22:18.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,maybe your brothers\Nand sisters
Dialogue: 0,1:22:18.54,1:22:19.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in parliament.
Dialogue: 0,1:22:19.72,1:22:21.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Let's grow food to feed
Dialogue: 0,1:22:21.45,1:22:24.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Africa and feed the world.
Dialogue: 0,1:22:31.28,1:22:34.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> In view of all findings,
Dialogue: 0,1:22:34.30,1:22:37.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the task force recommended\Nthat the ban on
Dialogue: 0,1:22:37.17,1:22:41.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,junk foods be lifted on\Na case-by-case basis.
Dialogue: 0,1:22:41.13,1:22:42.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Personally, I believe
Dialogue: 0,1:22:42.78,1:22:45.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,biotechnology is\Nthe way forward for
Dialogue: 0,1:22:45.54,1:22:48.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this country and for\Nthe globe in terms of
Dialogue: 0,1:22:48.42,1:22:50.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,food security\Nand the issues
Dialogue: 0,1:22:50.70,1:22:53.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,dealing with climate\Nchange. Thank you.
Dialogue: 0,1:22:54.50,1:22:57.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Both Kenya and\NUganda are close
Dialogue: 0,1:22:57.54,1:22:59.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to allowing genetically\Nengineered crops,
Dialogue: 0,1:22:59.86,1:23:01.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like the\Nwilt-resistant banana
Dialogue: 0,1:23:01.83,1:23:03.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on a case-by-case basis.
Dialogue: 0,1:23:03.84,1:23:04.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But there are still
Dialogue: 0,1:23:04.95,1:23:06.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,many people and\Norganizations
Dialogue: 0,1:23:06.81,1:23:08.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,successfully\Nspreading fear and
Dialogue: 0,1:23:08.94,1:23:11.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,misinformation about\Nthis technology.
Dialogue: 0,1:23:11.67,1:23:14.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The Hawaii county\Ncouncils ban on
Dialogue: 0,1:23:14.07,1:23:17.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,growing GMOs was\Noverturned by the state,
Dialogue: 0,1:23:17.22,1:23:19.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but led by Andrew\NKimbrell's,
Dialogue: 0,1:23:19.47,1:23:20.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Center for Food Safety,
Dialogue: 0,1:23:20.86,1:23:23.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it is still being\Ncontested in the courts.
Dialogue: 0,1:23:23.88,1:23:26.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> At it's core,
Dialogue: 0,1:23:26.05,1:23:29.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,science is an\Ninvestigated journey
Dialogue: 0,1:23:29.16,1:23:32.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,no matter where it ends up.
Dialogue: 0,1:23:33.14,1:23:35.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> There's a\Nchapter in there
Dialogue: 0,1:23:35.28,1:23:36.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which I'm going to revise.
Dialogue: 0,1:23:36.92,1:23:40.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I spent some time on it\Nand I'm very excited.
Dialogue: 0,1:23:40.88,1:23:41.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Wait, which\Nchapter is this?
Dialogue: 0,1:23:41.92,1:23:43.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Well, you\Ncan stay tuned,
Dialogue: 0,1:23:43.05,1:23:45.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but it's about genetically\Nmodified food.
Dialogue: 0,1:23:45.45,1:23:49.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I went to Monsanto and\NI spent a lot of time
Dialogue: 0,1:23:49.89,1:23:51.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with the scientists\Nthere and I
Dialogue: 0,1:23:51.33,1:23:54.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,have revised my outlook,
Dialogue: 0,1:23:54.10,1:23:56.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I'm very excited\Nabout telling the world.
Dialogue: 0,1:23:56.07,1:23:56.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When you're in love,
Dialogue: 0,1:23:56.64,1:23:57.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you want to tell the world.
Dialogue: 0,1:23:57.56,1:23:59.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Change your mind when\Nthe data shows you.
Dialogue: 0,1:23:59.70,1:24:00.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> [inaudible] for\Ncoming on the show.
Dialogue: 0,1:24:00.50,1:24:01.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Let's change the world.
Dialogue: 0,1:24:01.65,1:24:03.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Let's do it.
Dialogue: 0,1:24:06.02,1:24:09.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> GMOs and development\Naround the world
Dialogue: 0,1:24:09.36,1:24:13.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,include peanuts that\Nare now allergy free,
Dialogue: 0,1:24:13.08,1:24:15.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,safe for all\Nchildren to eat.
Dialogue: 0,1:24:15.57,1:24:17.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Oranges that can resist
Dialogue: 0,1:24:17.40,1:24:19.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the invasive citrus\Ngreening disease,
Dialogue: 0,1:24:19.78,1:24:21.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which has wiped\Nout over half of
Dialogue: 0,1:24:21.60,1:24:24.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,all orange trees in\Nthe United States,
Dialogue: 0,1:24:24.63,1:24:26.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and mosquitoes\Nthat can help
Dialogue: 0,1:24:26.82,1:24:28.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,stop the spread of malaria,
Dialogue: 0,1:24:28.72,1:24:33.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,dengue fever and\Neven the Zika virus.
Dialogue: 0,1:24:33.41,1:24:37.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> I don't think\Npeople understand
Dialogue: 0,1:24:37.68,1:24:39.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,how much size is
Dialogue: 0,1:24:39.52,1:24:44.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,involved in making\Ngood food available.
Dialogue: 0,1:24:45.44,1:24:47.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> So while we may have
Dialogue: 0,1:24:47.82,1:24:49.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,had a crisis of trust,
Dialogue: 0,1:24:49.75,1:24:51.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when we come to our next
Dialogue: 0,1:24:51.51,1:24:53.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,evolutionary fork\Nin the road.
Dialogue: 0,1:24:53.67,1:24:56.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,How do we decide\Nwhich way to go?
Dialogue: 0,1:24:56.62,1:24:59.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What kind of future\Nwill we have
Dialogue: 0,1:24:59.07,1:25:01.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if we turn our backs\Non credible evidence,
Dialogue: 0,1:25:01.83,1:25:05.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sound science and\Nrepeatable studies?
Dialogue: 0,1:25:05.55,1:25:09.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What impact will that\Nhave on ourselves,
Dialogue: 0,1:25:09.58,1:25:13.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,our planet and our future?
Dialogue: 0,1:25:42.17,1:25:44.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> According to the\NNew Yorker said,
Dialogue: 0,1:25:44.91,1:25:46.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Don't listen to\NJeffrey Smith,
Dialogue: 0,1:25:46.44,1:25:48.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he's a ballroom\Ndance teacher."
Dialogue: 0,1:25:48.21,1:25:51.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Actually, I'm a swing\Ndancer, thank you.
Dialogue: 0,1:25:51.78,1:25:54.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Well, my wife\Nalways tells
Dialogue: 0,1:25:54.06,1:25:55.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,me that I'm incredibly
Dialogue: 0,1:25:55.48,1:25:56.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,unpersuasive because
Dialogue: 0,1:25:56.94,1:25:58.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm always\Npunching people in
Dialogue: 0,1:25:58.86,1:26:00.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the face with how\Nwrong they are
Dialogue: 0,1:26:00.27,1:26:01.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and how life facts
Dialogue: 0,1:26:01.83,1:26:03.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are the right\Nfacts and so on.
Dialogue: 0,1:26:03.12,1:26:03.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But she keeps saying,
Dialogue: 0,1:26:03.87,1:26:04.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"I used to do this\Nwhen I was in
Dialogue: 0,1:26:04.65,1:26:06.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the [inaudible] the\Nargument as well.
Dialogue: 0,1:26:06.21,1:26:08.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So you're just doing\Nthe same thing now,
Dialogue: 0,1:26:08.18,1:26:09.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you're just telling\Neveryone they're
Dialogue: 0,1:26:09.33,1:26:10.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,wrong and shouting\Ninto people's faces.
Dialogue: 0,1:26:10.71,1:26:11.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You just change your\Nmind [inaudible] ,
Dialogue: 0,1:26:11.91,1:26:13.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,why do expect anyone\Nto believe that?
Dialogue: 0,1:26:13.68,1:26:16.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,She probably got a point.
Dialogue: 0,1:26:23.75,1:26:26.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> More than 100\NNobel laureates
Dialogue: 0,1:26:26.61,1:26:28.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,have signed a\Nletter calling for
Dialogue: 0,1:26:28.50,1:26:30.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Greenpeace to\Nend its campaign
Dialogue: 0,1:26:30.27,1:26:32.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,against genetically\Nmodified organisms.
Dialogue: 0,1:26:32.30,1:26:34.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Richard Roberts,\Nthe campaign's
Dialogue: 0,1:26:34.05,1:26:36.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,organizer and 1993\NNobel Prize recipient,
Dialogue: 0,1:26:36.86,1:26:38.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,told the Washington\NPost that
Dialogue: 0,1:26:38.07,1:26:39.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the environmental\Nbrief stance
Dialogue: 0,1:26:39.66,1:26:43.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,against GMOs is damaging\Nand anti-science.
Dialogue: 0,1:26:43.38,1:26:44.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> The good thing about\Nscience is that it's
Dialogue: 0,1:26:44.91,1:26:46.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,true whether or not\Nyou believe in it.
Dialogue: 0,1:26:46.52,1:26:48.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You say that's\Nthe [inaudible]
Dialogue: 0,1:26:48.21,1:26:48.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Social
Dialogue: 0,1:26:48.29,1:26:51.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,networking replaced by\Nsocial interaction,
Dialogue: 0,1:26:51.48,1:26:53.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,virtual reality\Nbecomes sub reality.
Dialogue: 0,1:26:53.62,1:26:55.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,People make money off\Nof being good with life
Dialogue: 0,1:26:55.44,1:26:57.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in a virtual game.\NOh, man. The future.
Dialogue: 0,1:26:57.24,1:26:58.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> I saw the tweet\Nout there that
Dialogue: 0,1:26:58.92,1:26:59.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,wanted to know how much
Dialogue: 0,1:26:59.82,1:27:01.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Monsanto paid you for\Nchanging your mind?
Dialogue: 0,1:27:01.08,1:27:02.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Yes. Well, I confess.
Dialogue: 0,1:27:02.76,1:27:04.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They do things.
Dialogue: 0,1:27:04.47,1:27:06.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I ate in the cafeteria
Dialogue: 0,1:27:06.20,1:27:08.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for free as I\Nunderstand it,
Dialogue: 0,1:27:08.12,1:27:09.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and you guys gave\Nme a ride from
Dialogue: 0,1:27:09.72,1:27:11.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the airport, that's true.
Dialogue: 0,1:27:11.84,1:27:15.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> So we can put\Nthat myth behind us.
Dialogue: 0,1:27:15.20,1:27:17.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Yes, I paid my own way.
Dialogue: 0,1:27:17.07,1:27:18.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Oppression has\Nbeen forgotten,
Dialogue: 0,1:27:18.33,1:27:19.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,religion is dead,
Dialogue: 0,1:27:19.56,1:27:21.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,everyone is logical,\Nthey don't know why.
Dialogue: 0,1:27:21.74,1:27:23.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Oh, man. The future.
Dialogue: 0,1:27:23.01,1:27:24.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> When people talk\Nabout doom and gloom,
Dialogue: 0,1:27:24.75,1:27:26.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we're going to have\Nso many people and
Dialogue: 0,1:27:26.34,1:27:28.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we're going to be\Nfalling off the island,
Dialogue: 0,1:27:28.26,1:27:30.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,our continents, we have\Nso many [inaudible].
Dialogue: 0,1:27:30.90,1:27:32.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,First of all, if we\Nall had a party,
Dialogue: 0,1:27:32.76,1:27:34.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,all of the people in\Nthe world had a party,
Dialogue: 0,1:27:34.68,1:27:36.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we would fit on the\Nisland of Hawaii.
Dialogue: 0,1:27:36.50,1:27:38.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,All of the people\Nin the world
Dialogue: 0,1:27:38.01,1:27:40.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,right now free to party.
Dialogue: 0,1:27:41.72,1:27:44.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Thirty-nine more\NUS presidents until
Dialogue: 0,1:27:44.46,1:27:46.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a woman finally makes\Nit in my office,
Dialogue: 0,1:27:46.23,1:27:47.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,not that it will\Nreally matter.
Dialogue: 0,1:27:47.32,1:27:48.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But a year later,\Nrevolution happens and
Dialogue: 0,1:27:48.96,1:27:51.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the war for hunger\Nand poverty ends.
Dialogue: 0,1:27:51.27,1:27:52.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Some people believe that
Dialogue: 0,1:27:52.29,1:27:54.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,an organic farmer\Nand a geneticist
Dialogue: 0,1:27:54.33,1:27:56.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,represents polar opposites
Dialogue: 0,1:27:56.16,1:27:57.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of the agricultural\Nspectrum,
Dialogue: 0,1:27:57.99,1:27:59.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but that's not true
Dialogue: 0,1:27:59.52,1:28:01.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and we both have\Nthe same goal,
Dialogue: 0,1:28:01.95,1:28:04.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which is an ecologically\Nbased agriculture.
Dialogue: 0,1:28:04.88,1:28:07.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> We met at another farm.
Dialogue: 0,1:28:07.72,1:28:09.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Eventually,\Nthere was enough
Dialogue: 0,1:28:09.51,1:28:11.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,going there to get married.
Dialogue: 0,1:28:11.61,1:28:13.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Oh, man. The future.
Dialogue: 0,1:28:13.68,1:28:15.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,People create drugs to\Ntrick the body into
Dialogue: 0,1:28:15.72,1:28:16.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,thinking it's getting\Nthe nutrients
Dialogue: 0,1:28:16.98,1:28:18.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that needs to survive.
Dialogue: 0,1:28:18.08,1:28:19.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Food no longer necessary.
Dialogue: 0,1:28:19.47,1:28:20.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Oh, man. The future.
Dialogue: 0,1:28:20.68,1:28:22.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> On Capitol Hill Tuesday,
Dialogue: 0,1:28:22.23,1:28:24.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Dr. Oz, who is\Non the hot seat.
Dialogue: 0,1:28:24.32,1:28:26.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> I actually do\Npersonally believe in
Dialogue: 0,1:28:26.82,1:28:28.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the items that I talked\Nabout in the show,
Dialogue: 0,1:28:28.36,1:28:29.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I passionately study them.
Dialogue: 0,1:28:29.97,1:28:32.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I recognized that\Noftentimes you don't have
Dialogue: 0,1:28:32.13,1:28:36.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the scientific muster\Nto present as fact.
Dialogue: 0,1:28:36.80,1:28:39.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> That's the whole point.
Dialogue: 0,1:28:39.68,1:28:42.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You're presenting\Nit as a doctor.
Dialogue: 0,1:28:42.20,1:28:43.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Dr. Oz, for some reason,
Dialogue: 0,1:28:43.96,1:28:47.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he tells people\Nwhat he believes.
Dialogue: 0,1:28:47.32,1:28:48.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Whether or not it's based
Dialogue: 0,1:28:48.33,1:28:49.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,upon any good science.
Dialogue: 0,1:28:49.59,1:28:51.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I don't understand how he
Dialogue: 0,1:28:51.24,1:28:55.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,really can sleep at\Nnight doing this.
Dialogue: 0,1:28:55.06,1:28:55.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Oh, man. Then I died.
Dialogue: 0,1:28:55.89,1:28:57.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Oh, man. The world dies.
Dialogue: 0,1:28:57.00,1:28:58.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Oh, man. The future.
Dialogue: 0,1:28:58.26,1:28:59.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,As I say all\Nthis, I **** off
Dialogue: 0,1:28:59.55,1:29:00.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a Buddhist on the corner
Dialogue: 0,1:29:00.39,1:29:01.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of Hollywood and Highlands.
Dialogue: 0,1:29:01.66,1:29:02.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> We are here to answer
Dialogue: 0,1:29:02.88,1:29:04.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the million\Ndollar question.
Dialogue: 0,1:29:04.66,1:29:10.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Can we feed nine\Nbillion people by 2050?
Dialogue: 0,1:29:10.32,1:29:13.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'll use President Obama's
Dialogue: 0,1:29:13.04,1:29:16.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,catchphrase, "Yes we can."
Dialogue: 0,1:29:16.25,1:29:19.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Look at this. Dr. Emma,
Dialogue: 0,1:29:19.35,1:29:22.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,look. Everybody's\Nstanding up.
Dialogue: 0,1:29:22.94,1:29:26.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> The standing ovation\Nafter the speech,
Dialogue: 0,1:29:26.80,1:29:28.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he told me, "Even
Dialogue: 0,1:29:28.68,1:29:30.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Bill Gates sometimes\Ncould not get that."
Dialogue: 0,1:29:30.66,1:29:35.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So it was really\Nnice, it felt good.
Dialogue: 0,1:32:23.84,1:32:26.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> All right, my man.