WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:06.060 before I say anything I just want to say that if  you are squeamish you might not want to watch this 00:00:06.060 --> 00:00:10.680 video because there will be some pictures of  lungs that have a blood clot in them and other 00:00:10.680 --> 00:00:15.990 organs of the body and my opinion is nothing that  bad but I wanted to give you a warning regardless 00:00:15.990 --> 00:00:21.630 this video is a follow-up to my last video which  is called what doctors are learning from autopsy 00:00:21.630 --> 00:00:27.930 findings of COVID patients just after I published  that video not even a day later this study came 00:00:27.930 --> 00:00:33.180 out published in the annals of internal medicine  which I'll put a link in the description below 00:00:33.180 --> 00:00:38.460 and what makes this study such a big deal is  that it's the first study that looked at this 00:00:38.460 --> 00:00:44.970 many autopsies of patients who died of COVID not  only do they do complete autopsies but they use 00:00:44.970 --> 00:00:51.660 CT scans to scan the entire body for blood clots  all 12 of the deceased had tested positive for 00:00:51.660 --> 00:00:59.580 SARS coronavirus - by means of rt-pcr now I want  to say something not everyone on this planet is 00:00:59.580 --> 00:01:05.550 going to get COVID for those who do get the virus  80 percent of them will have either mild or no 00:01:05.550 --> 00:01:12.090 symptoms roughly 15 to 20 percent of them will  have pneumonia roughly 4 percent will develop 00:01:12.090 --> 00:01:19.260 ARDS or a few respiratory distress syndrome and/or  shock with multi-organ failure and about 1 percent 00:01:19.260 --> 00:01:25.530 will die of the infection when I'm in the ICU and  someone dies it's obviously horrible sometimes 00:01:25.530 --> 00:01:32.250 autopsies have to be done irrespective of family  consent when it's a legal matter rarely depending 00:01:32.250 --> 00:01:38.580 on the circumstances we ask family's permission to  do an autopsy most families decline the option for 00:01:38.580 --> 00:01:44.460 autopsy but during this pandemic it's especially  important for autopsies to be done because they 00:01:44.460 --> 00:01:50.010 often provide incredibly valuable information  especially when we still know so little about 00:01:50.010 --> 00:01:55.710 COVID especially when it can present in so many  different ways so in this study that was done in 00:01:55.710 --> 00:02:01.140 Germany autopsies were mandated for patients  who died of coded and to the families of those 00:02:01.140 --> 00:02:05.790 victims of COVID my condolences and we're  still trying to figure out why some people 00:02:05.790 --> 00:02:10.950 do so poorly when they get the virus while others  do just fine and then there's everyone in between 00:02:12.030 --> 00:02:17.100 the point of this video is not to scare people  the point is to learn about the disease and to 00:02:17.100 --> 00:02:20.970 ultimately benefit from that learning with  the hope of developing treatment options in 00:02:20.970 --> 00:02:27.180 ultimately reduce morbidity and mortality in other  words to save lives and by making this video the 00:02:27.180 --> 00:02:33.270 goal is to educate myself and others about what  we're learning and getting the medical truth out 00:02:33.270 --> 00:02:40.260 there to the public so in this study there were  12 patients total nine men three women and the 00:02:40.260 --> 00:02:46.800 median age was 73 all patients had some type of  pre-existing medical condition most of them had 00:02:46.800 --> 00:02:53.610 obesity and/or underlying heart disease such as  coronary heart disease some had type 2 diabetes 00:02:53.610 --> 00:03:01.020 hypertension peripheral artery disease asthma  COPD initial lab tests revealed elevated levels 00:03:01.020 --> 00:03:08.730 of d-dimer lactate dehydrogenase meaning LD H  and C reactive protein or CRP all of these are 00:03:08.730 --> 00:03:15.300 nonspecific markers of inflammation there is also  mild thrombocytopenia in some patients meaning low 00:03:15.300 --> 00:03:21.300 platelet counts this isn't an unusual finding in  patients who are critically ill they also looked 00:03:21.300 --> 00:03:28.260 at levels of viral RNA using rt-pcr studies all  twelve patients had the Stars quarter virus to 00:03:28.260 --> 00:03:34.260 RNA in their lungs nine out of the twelve had it  in their throat and six had in their bloodstream 00:03:34.260 --> 00:03:42.390 in five patients they had viral RNA in other  tissues like heart liver brain and kidney not 00:03:42.390 --> 00:03:47.220 only did they have the virus there but the levels  were higher in those tissues compared to the blood 00:03:47.220 --> 00:03:52.800 here's a picture from a different autopsy that  was not part of this study where the virus was 00:03:52.800 --> 00:03:59.280 actually visualized in the kidney using electron  microscopy so what is this telling us it tells us 00:03:59.280 --> 00:04:05.220 that the virus is binding to those h2 receptors  in those organs so in some people who dive COVID 00:04:05.220 --> 00:04:12.060 they had the virus in other organs besides the  lungs but and this is a big but they did not die 00:04:12.060 --> 00:04:17.700 as a result of that virus being in those different  organs they died as a result of lung complications 00:04:17.700 --> 00:04:23.790 also an important takeaway from this is that all  twelve had in their lungs and nine out of the 12 00:04:24.480 --> 00:04:29.340 in their throat so when you go to do a throat  swab with someone who has COVID the virus might 00:04:29.340 --> 00:04:34.650 not even be there and that's just another reason  why you can get a false negative test okay so they 00:04:34.650 --> 00:04:40.590 also did post-mortem CT scans of these patients  which demonstrated mixed patterns of reticular 00:04:40.590 --> 00:04:47.850 infiltrations in severe dense consolidations in  both lungs this CT scan is a patient with covid 00:04:47.850 --> 00:04:52.170 pneumonia in erred yes not from this study  that we're talking about now but basically 00:04:52.170 --> 00:04:58.680 demonstrating the exact same thing both lungs have  extensive consolidations ground-glass opacities 00:04:58.680 --> 00:05:03.780 which represent an extensive inflammation these  are also known as pulmonary infiltrates and you 00:05:03.780 --> 00:05:07.920 can see the difference compared to a normal  CT scan of the chest which doesn't have any 00:05:07.920 --> 00:05:14.460 pulmonary infiltrates in four cases out of the 12  massive pulmonary embolism meaning massive blood 00:05:14.460 --> 00:05:20.220 clots in the pulmonary arteries was the cause of  death in another three cases out of the 12 they 00:05:20.220 --> 00:05:26.550 had blood clots in their large veins of their legs  meaning DVT without having pulmonary embolism so 00:05:26.550 --> 00:05:33.660 in six of the nine men they had clots in the veins  that surround the prostate gland in all 12 cases 00:05:33.660 --> 00:05:39.330 the cause of death was found within the lungs or  the pulmonary vascular system meaning within the 00:05:39.330 --> 00:05:45.450 pulmonary arteries for the ones who didn't die of  having a large pulmonary emboli they died of the 00:05:45.450 --> 00:05:51.780 extensive inflammation within the lungs meaning  pneumonia with ARDS in these cases the lungs were 00:05:51.780 --> 00:05:57.480 wet and heavy much like a sponge that is saturated  with water the surfaces of the lung often had 00:05:57.480 --> 00:06:03.750 a distinct patchy pattern with pale areas  alternating with slightly protruding and firm 00:06:03.750 --> 00:06:11.040 deep reddish blue hyper capitalized areas this  is indicative of areas of intense inflammation 00:06:11.040 --> 00:06:16.470 with endothelial dysfunction that can be seen at  the microscopic level when they look at slices 00:06:16.470 --> 00:06:21.600 of the lungs under the microscope they found  diffuse alveolar damage in eight cases out of 12 00:06:21.600 --> 00:06:27.780 specifically they saw hyaline membrane formation  tiny clots in the capillaries and capillaries 00:06:27.780 --> 00:06:32.730 that were engorged with red blood cells and  other inflammatory findings all these findings 00:06:32.730 --> 00:06:38.410 represent ARDS they also found lymphocytes  a type of a white blood cell that infiltrated 00:06:38.410 --> 00:06:44.890 these specific tissues this fits the picture of a  viral pathogen ASIS they also look at the pharynx 00:06:44.890 --> 00:06:50.380 of these patients meaning the throat the lining of  the throat where the mucosa was hyperemic meaning 00:06:50.380 --> 00:06:55.660 very red and irritated and at the microscopic  level they saw lymphocytes invading there as well 00:06:55.660 --> 00:07:01.600 again which is consistent with a viral infection  in one case a patient had lymphocytes invade his 00:07:01.600 --> 00:07:07.690 heart muscle findings that are consistent with  what we call viral myocarditis in other words the 00:07:07.690 --> 00:07:13.270 heart muscle had evidence of viral infection more  than half the patients in this study had large 00:07:13.270 --> 00:07:18.940 blood clots 1/3 of the patients had pulmonary  embolism as the direct cause of death all the 00:07:18.940 --> 00:07:25.450 others died of intense inflammation in their lungs  related to pneumonia and ARDS recently there's 00:07:25.450 --> 00:07:31.240 been studies showing that about 1/3 of patients  with severe COVID have blood clots another study 00:07:31.240 --> 00:07:38.650 of 191 patients with Covid 19 half of those who  died had clots compared with 7% of the survivors 00:07:38.650 --> 00:07:44.290 and levels of d-dimer that were greater than  1,000 were associated with a fatal outcome so 00:07:44.290 --> 00:07:49.750 it's pretty clear now that stars curve to virus  is causing a lot of class to form and moderate 00:07:49.750 --> 00:07:55.540 to severe COVID disease but how is this happening  it's likely a combination of reasons they have 00:07:55.540 --> 00:08:01.330 to do with down regulation of the h2 receptor in  the lung alveoli with a subsequent shift towards 00:08:01.330 --> 00:08:08.320 having more angiotensin 2 in the lungs and less  angiotensin 1:7 and less in angiotensin 1:9 in 00:08:08.320 --> 00:08:14.260 the lungs and when this happens this leads to  more cytokine storm with more inflammation more 00:08:14.260 --> 00:08:20.020 constriction of pulmonary arteries and more  clots that develop that in turn leads to more 00:08:20.020 --> 00:08:25.300 endothelial dysfunction in the capillaries that  surround the alveoli also there's evidence that 00:08:25.300 --> 00:08:30.160 the virus attaches to the ACE 2 receptors of the  endothelial cells that line those capillaries 00:08:30.160 --> 00:08:35.950 which further propagates inflammation in clotting  and in the cytokine storm that develops there 00:08:35.950 --> 00:08:43.360 Randy's Okemo kine bind to the ccr5 receptor  of cd4 and cd8 lymphocytes and that causes 00:08:43.360 --> 00:08:49.410 those lymphocytes to infiltrate those areas of  inflammation and in doing so further contributes 00:08:49.410 --> 00:08:55.290 towards the inflammatory reaction this is why  we're seeing low levels of cd4 and cd8 lymphocytes 00:08:55.290 --> 00:09:02.370 and severe COVID endothelial damage can also lead  to the development of antiphospholipid antibodies 00:09:02.370 --> 00:09:07.950 and these antibodies are bad because they trigger  the formation of blood clots and that's why 00:09:07.950 --> 00:09:13.140 patients who have clots with the diagnosis  of antiphospholipid antibody syndrome they 00:09:13.140 --> 00:09:18.750 need to be on blood thinners also 11 out of the 12  patients in the study had underlying heart disease 00:09:18.750 --> 00:09:24.900 and were obese these are known risk factors not  just for cardiovascular disease but also known 00:09:24.900 --> 00:09:30.630 risk factors for endothelial dysfunction in our  known risk factors for COVID the endothelium is 00:09:30.630 --> 00:09:38.160 more susceptible to damage based on cardiovascular  risk factors such as men age 45 or older women 00:09:38.160 --> 00:09:46.560 age 55 or older smoking high blood pressure high  cholesterol diabetes obesity and lack of physical 00:09:46.560 --> 00:09:52.410 activity so the big takeaways from the findings  in this study is that most people who die of Covid 00:09:52.410 --> 00:09:59.910 it's primarily a lung problem either related to  inflammation with ARDS and/or blood clots even 00:09:59.910 --> 00:10:05.070 though blood thinners are not a cure for Covid per  se they do have the potential to save lives the 00:10:05.070 --> 00:10:10.170 hard part is figuring out who is likely to develop  clots and who should we give blood thinners to and 00:10:10.170 --> 00:10:15.360 which blood thinners should we give and should  we give high doses of blood thinners or just the 00:10:15.360 --> 00:10:21.630 low-dose prophylactic doses to further complicate  matters it's often hard to diagnose blood clots in 00:10:21.630 --> 00:10:27.930 hospitalized patients even before COVID came along  usually it's easy to diagnose large blood clots in 00:10:27.930 --> 00:10:34.380 the veins of the legs meaning DVT by doing an  ultrasound of the legs even though ultrasound 00:10:34.380 --> 00:10:39.180 isn't a hundred percent accurate the way we  typically diagnose pulmonary emboli is by getting 00:10:39.180 --> 00:10:45.960 a CT scan of the chest while at the same time  giving IV contrast and this is called a CT angio 00:10:45.960 --> 00:10:52.410 or CT a of the chest the downsides of doing this  well there's several one you have to transport a 00:10:52.410 --> 00:10:57.960 patient to the CT scanner and sometimes patients  aren't stable enough to do that to you risk 00:10:57.960 --> 00:11:03.000 spreading the virus to others in the hospital by  transporting that pay and this will also require 00:11:03.000 --> 00:11:12.000 more PPE use 3 CT scans require larger doses of  radiation for giving someone IV contrast has some 00:11:12.000 --> 00:11:17.070 risks such as the risk of serious allergic  reaction in the risk of causing some kidney 00:11:17.070 --> 00:11:23.490 damage on top of that the CTA of the chest can  only visualize bigger clots so you might not see 00:11:23.490 --> 00:11:28.260 the small clots that are there right now more and  more hospitals are giving high-dose blood thinners 00:11:28.260 --> 00:11:33.090 to COVID patients who have severe disease even  if they haven't been diagnosed as having blood 00:11:33.090 --> 00:11:38.220 clots but what about patients without moderate or  severe Covid should they take a blood thinner or 00:11:38.220 --> 00:11:44.850 maybe a low dose blood thinner or should they take  an antiplatelet medication like aspirin either 81 00:11:44.850 --> 00:11:52.080 milligrams of aspirin or 162 milligram dose or 325  milligrams os-- or should the general public take 00:11:52.080 --> 00:11:57.630 a low dose aspirin like 81 milligrams in order to  help prevent blood clots from forming if they do 00:11:57.630 --> 00:12:02.040 get COVID or should it just be certain people in  the population who are at higher risk of getting 00:12:02.040 --> 00:12:07.170 severe COVID should they take aspirin these are  the questions we don't know the answers to at 00:12:07.170 --> 00:12:11.670 this point it's going to take a lot of studies  to answer these questions because not only do 00:12:11.670 --> 00:12:16.050 we need to know that there's a benefit in doing so  we have to know that these benefits will outweigh 00:12:16.050 --> 00:12:20.970 the risks such as the risk of bleeding and then  there's all the other drugs that are being looked 00:12:20.970 --> 00:12:25.200 at right now and randomized control trials we  should start seeing some of these results pretty 00:12:25.200 --> 00:12:31.200 soon what we do know is that in order to improve  the capillary endothelium and also to minimize 00:12:31.200 --> 00:12:35.760 your chances of having severe disease if you  were to get COVID you want to do several things 00:12:35.760 --> 00:12:43.620 this includes exercise eating healthy getting  good sleep minimizing stress not smoking what 00:12:43.620 --> 00:12:49.890 about vaping generally not good either but not as  bad as smoking too much alcohol not good either 00:12:49.890 --> 00:12:54.780 have your medical conditions under control  whether that's diabetes high blood pressure 00:12:54.780 --> 00:13:02.490 COPD asthma allergies whatever the case may be  now what about vitamin D probably a good thing 00:13:02.490 --> 00:13:06.990 but that's a whole nother topic which I should  make my next video on because there's a lot to 00:13:06.990 --> 00:13:12.870 say about that and possibly other vitamins too  if you're deficient in certain vitamins anyway 00:13:12.870 --> 00:13:17.830 to catch that video 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