9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 Russell Brand who are you to edit a political magazine? 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 well i suppose like a person who's been [br]politely asked by interactive woman 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 I don't know what the typical criteria is 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 I don't know many people that edit political magazines 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 Boris, he used to do on, didn't he? 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 so i'm a person with crazy [br]here quite good sense of humor 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 don't know much about politics, I'm ideal 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 but is it true you don't even vote? 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 Yeah no i dont vote/ 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 well how do you have any authority to talk about politics? 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 well I don't get my authority from this [br]pre-existing paradigm which is quite narrow 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 and only serves a few people. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 I look elsewhere for alternatives that might be of service to humanity 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 alternate means, alternate political systems 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 they being? 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 well ive not invented it yet Jeremy! 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 i had to do a magazine last week,[br]ive had a lot on my plate! 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 but, i say, here's the thing that it shouldnt do: 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 shouldn't destroy the planet 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 shouldn't create massive economic disparity 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 shouldn't ignore the needs of the people 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 the burden of proof is on the people with the power [br]not people like doing a magazine 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 how do you imagine the people get power? 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 well I imagine there are sort of hierarchical systems that have been preserved for generations... 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 they get power by being voted it... 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 you wont even be asked to vote 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 thats quite a narrow [br]quite narrow prescriptive parameter 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 that changes within the... 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 in a democracy that's how it works 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 well I don't think is working very well Jeremy[br] [br]given that the plan is being destroyed [br] 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 given there's economic disparity of a huge degree 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 what you sayin theres no alternative? theres no alternative? 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 no im not saying that. im saying if you cant be asked to vote, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 why should we be asked to listen to your political point of view? 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 you don't have to listen to my political point of view 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 but its not that im not voting out of apathy, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 im not voting out of absolute indifference, and weariness, and exhaustion, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 and from the lies, treachery, deceit of the political class, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 that has been going on for generations now, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 and which has now reached fever pitch 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 where we have a disenfranchised, disillusioned, despondent underclass, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 that are not being represented by that political system 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 so voting for it is tacit complicity with that system 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 that's not something I'm offering up 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 well why dont you change it then? 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 im trying to! 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 well why dont you start by voting? 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 [laughing] i dont think it works people have voted already, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 and thats whats created the current paradigm 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 when did you last vote? 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 never 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 you've never ever voted? 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 no, do you think that's really bad? 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 so you struck an attitude before what, the age of 18? 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 well i was busy being a drug addict at that point 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 because i come from the kind of socialconditions that are exacerbated 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 by an indifferent system that really just administrates for large corporations and ignores the population that it was voted in to serve. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 youre blaming the political class the fact that you had a drug problem? 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 no no no i'm saying I was part of the social and economic class 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 that is underserved by the current political system 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 and drug addiction's one of the problems it creates 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 when you have huge underserved impoverished populations people get drug problems 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 and also don't feel like they want to engage with the current political system 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 because they see that it doesn't work for them, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 they see that it makes no difference they see that they're not served. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 of course it doesnt work for them if they dont bother to vote! 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 Jeremy my darling, im not saying... the apathy doesn't come from us the people 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 the apathy comes from the politicians they are apathetic to our needs 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 they're only interested in servicing the needs of corporations 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 look at what... aint the Tories going to court, to take the EU to court because they're trying to curtail bank bonuses? 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 Is that whats happening at the moment in our country?[br] 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 It is, isnt it? 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 So why am i gonna tune in for that? 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 You dont believe in democracy, you want a revolution, dont you! 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 the planet is being destroyed, we are creating an underclass, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 we are exploiting poor people all over the world 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 and the genuine legitimate problems the people are not being addressed by our political class. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 All of those things may be true... 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 they are true! 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 but you took... i wouldnt argue with you about many of them... 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 well outcome I feel so cross with you, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 it cant be because of that beard, its gorgeous!the cards because about be it it's gorgeous! 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 and if the Daily Mail dont want it, i do! 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 im against them! grow it longer![br]tangle it into your armpit hair. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 You are a very trivial man. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 oh do you think I'm trivial? 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 yes! 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 a minute ago you were havin a go at me because i want a revolution, now im trivial! 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 im bouncin' about all over the place! 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 im not having a go at you because you want a revolution many people want a revolution, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 but im asking you what it will be like? 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 well I think what it won't be like is 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 a huge disparity between rich and poor 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 where 300 Americans have the same amount of wealth as the 85 million poorest americans 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 where there is a an exploited and underserved underclass that have been continually ignored, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 where welfare is slashed while Cameron and Osborne go to court to defend the right of bankers to continue receiving their bonuses. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 what's the scheme? Thats all im asking, whats the scheme? 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 you talked vaguely about revolution, what is it? 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 I think a socialist egalitarian system based on the massive redistribution of wealth, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 heavy taxation of corporations and massive responsibility for energy companies 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 and any companies exploiting the environment, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 they should be tax... 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 I think the very concept of profit should be hugely reduced. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 David Cameron says profit isn't a day word, I say profit is a filthy word 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 because wherever there is profit there is also a deficit, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 and this system currently doesn't address these ideas. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 and so why would anyone vote for it? why would anyone be interested? 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 who'd levy these taxes? 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 I think we do need like... there needs to be a centralized administrative system... 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 a government? 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 well maybe call it something else, call it like the AdminBods so they dont get ahead of themselves... 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 how would they be chosen? 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 jeremy, dont ask me to sit here in an interview with you in a bloody hotel room, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 and devise a global utopian system 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 im merely pointing out that the current... 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 you are calling for revolution! 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 Yeah! absolutely! I'm calling for change I'm calling for genuine alternatives. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 there are many people who would agree with you... 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 good! 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 the current system is not engaging with all sorts of problems, yes, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 and they feel apathetic really apathetic, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 but if they were to take you seriously and not to vote 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 yeah they shouldnt vote, thats one thing they should do: dont bother voting 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 because when it reaches... theres a point... 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 you see these little valves, these sort of like cozy little valves of recycling and Prius and like, turnups somewhere... 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 it stops us reaching the pit point wherre we think this is enough now, stop voting, stop pretending, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 wake up! be in reality now. time to be in reality now. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 why vote? we know it isnt going to make any difference, we know that already. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 so you know I have more impact out West Ham United, cheering them on, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 and they lost the city, unnecessarily, sad. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 Now you're being facetious. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 well, facaetiousness has as much value as seriousness 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 I think you're making the mistake of mistaking seriousness for solemnity. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 We're not going to solve world problems by facetiousness. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 we're not going to solve them with the current system! at least facaetiousness is funny. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 sometimes 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 yes sometimes Jeremy 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 so listen, lets approach this optimistically 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 you spent your whole career berating and haranguing politicians, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 and then when someone like me, a comedian, goes "yeah theyre all worthless, whats the point in engaging with any of them?" 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 you sort of have a go at me because im not poor anymore. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 im not having a go at you about that 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 I'm just asking why would you take you seriously when you're so unspecific ... 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 will II firstly I don't mind if you take me seriously 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 I'm here just to draw attention to a few ideas I just wanna have a little bit of a laugh. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 I'm saying there are people with alternative ideas that are far better qualified than i am, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 and far better qualified more importantly 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 than the people that currently doing that job 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 because thyere not attempting to solve these problems 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 they're not. they're attempting to placate the population. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 Their measures that are currently being taken around climate change are indifferent, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 will not solve the problems 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 it's possible as human beings they're simply overwhelmed by the scale of the problem 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 not really, well, possibly it might be that, I mean but that's just semantics really, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 whether they're overwhelmed by it or tacitly maintaining it because it's habitual... 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 make I was is when I in now to the parliament 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 is decorated exactly the same as Ian is decorated that the same as Oxford 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 so certain type people guys and if it's all this makes me nervous and another 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 time have been gonna go 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 this is how it should be and I think that's gonna change now 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 we can no longer have peronist duplicitous systems held in place 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 unless it's for the serbs only systems that serve the plan and said the 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 population of the planet 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 can be allowed to survive not ones that seven lakes be they political 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 or corporal and this is what's currently happening you don't really 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 believe 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 I completely believe it doesn't mean very reliable wi-fi side 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 a life that you had me at Miller 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 we wear the same prime and promised with boris identity but he then went to a 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 conference in school in North London's 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 that's all well and good on but what i'm saying is that within the existing 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 paradigm the change in a dramatic enough 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 not radical enough so you can well understand public disturbances and 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 publicize faction 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 when they're not genuine changes and genuine alternates pilfered I say women 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 is a genuine alternative 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 a genuine option invoke that until then 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 Obama why pretend like be complacent in this ridiculous illusion 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 because by the time somebody comes along you might think it worked voting for it 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 may be too late 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 I don't think so because the time is now this movement is already occurring is 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 happening everywhere 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 wit only communication is instantaneous and their communities all over the world 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 the Occupy movement made a difference in even if only in I introduced to the 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 popular public Mexican 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 the idea of the one percent that is a people for the first time 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 in a generation are where massive corporate and economic exploitation 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 these things and not nonsense and these are subject are not being addressed 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 they have no one's doing anything about tax havens no one's doing anything about 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 their political affiliations and financial affiliations at the 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 Conservative Party 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 -bit was addressing the actually real 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 why would not be facetious what would I take it seriously why would I encourage 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 a consistent pictures young people back absolutely indifferent to vote 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 why would we aren't you bored on you more bored than anyone 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 you been talking on year after year listening to their lives they're not 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 then if this one gets in then is that one getting but the problem continues 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 why we gonna continue to contribute to disperse are 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 I'm surprise you can be facetious when you're that angry about it yeah I'm 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 angry 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 I am angry because for me it's real 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 me is not just some peripheral thing not turn up once in awhile to church by 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 for for me this is what come from this is what care about 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 to see any member that yep totally there's gonna be revelation is probably 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 going to happen 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 I did not know you i think i Flickr about this is the n 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 this is time to wake up I remember I see you in that program 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 way look at your ancestors and you saw that way your grandmother 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 we're at a process l got fucked over by as the cracks you wanna 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 gap you cried because you knew that it was unfair 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 and I'm just not what was essentially got that's happening to people now just 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 come from the woman is being treated like that 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 has been talking to women today is being treated like that 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 so im if we can engage that feeling said have some moment a black Remo 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 sentimentality played out in a TV for people to pour over emotional porn 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 if we can engage that feeling and strange things why wouldn't we will use 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 that naive 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 why is that not my right because I'm act power I me i i picking the right 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 I don't need the right from you but only the rubber anybody I'm taking