0:00:01.158,0:00:03.103 This is the ocean as I used to know it. 0:00:03.825,0:00:08.038 And I find that since I've been[br]in the Gulf a couple of times, 0:00:08.062,0:00:12.562 I really kind of am traumatized[br]because whenever I look at the ocean now, 0:00:12.586,0:00:15.047 no matter where I am, 0:00:15.071,0:00:18.976 even where I know[br]that none of the oil has gone, 0:00:19.000,0:00:20.976 I sort of see slicks, 0:00:21.000,0:00:25.247 and I'm finding that I'm very much[br]haunted by it. 0:00:26.666,0:00:28.862 But what I want to talk to you about today 0:00:28.886,0:00:32.416 is a lot of things that try[br]to put all of this in context, 0:00:32.440,0:00:38.414 not just about the oil eruption,[br]but what it means and why it has happened. 0:00:38.438,0:00:40.073 First, just a little bit about me. 0:00:40.097,0:00:42.609 I'm basically just a guy[br]that likes to go fishing 0:00:42.633,0:00:45.589 ever since I was a little kid,[br]and because I did, 0:00:45.613,0:00:47.680 I wound up studying sea birds 0:00:47.704,0:00:51.126 to try to stay in the coastal habitats[br]that I so loved. 0:00:51.150,0:00:55.736 And now I mainly write books[br]about how the ocean is changing, 0:00:55.760,0:00:58.660 and the ocean is certainly[br]changing very rapidly. 0:00:58.684,0:01:04.497 Now we saw this graphic earlier on,[br]that we really live on a hard marble 0:01:04.521,0:01:07.976 that has just a slight bit[br]of wetness to it. 0:01:08.000,0:01:10.242 It's like you dipped a marble in water. 0:01:10.266,0:01:12.333 And the same thing with the atmosphere: 0:01:12.357,0:01:15.582 If you took all the atmosphere[br]and rolled it up in a ball, 0:01:15.606,0:01:18.524 you would get that little sphere[br]of gas on the right. 0:01:18.548,0:01:23.777 So we live on the most fragile[br]little soap bubble you can imagine, 0:01:23.801,0:01:28.564 a very sacred soap bubble,[br]but one that is very, very easy to affect. 0:01:28.588,0:01:33.435 And all the burning of oil and coal[br]and gas, all the fossil fuels, 0:01:33.459,0:01:35.628 have changed the atmosphere greatly. 0:01:35.652,0:01:38.573 Carbon dioxide level[br]has gone up and up and up. 0:01:38.597,0:01:40.914 We're warming the climate. 0:01:40.938,0:01:42.949 So the blowout in the Gulf 0:01:42.973,0:01:47.118 is just a little piece[br]of a much larger problem 0:01:47.142,0:01:51.216 that we have with the energy[br]that we use to run civilization. 0:01:51.240,0:01:52.671 Beyond warming, 0:01:52.695,0:01:56.389 we have the problem[br]of the oceans getting more acidified -- 0:01:56.413,0:02:00.555 and already measurably so,[br]and already affecting animals. 0:02:01.200,0:02:07.628 Now in the laboratory, if you take a clam[br]and you put it in the pH that is not 8.1, 0:02:07.652,0:02:11.379 which is the normal pH[br]of seawater, but 7.5, 0:02:11.403,0:02:14.009 it dissolves in about three days. 0:02:14.033,0:02:17.828 If you take a sea urchin larva from 8.1, 0:02:17.852,0:02:22.144 put it in a pH of 7.7 --[br]not a huge change -- 0:02:22.168,0:02:24.821 it becomes deformed and dies. 0:02:24.845,0:02:31.687 Already, commercial oyster larvae[br]are dying at large scales in some places. 0:02:32.247,0:02:36.582 Coral reefs are growing slower[br]in some places because of this problem. 0:02:36.606,0:02:38.218 So this really matters. 0:02:38.242,0:02:42.599 Now, let's take a little tour[br]around the Gulf a little bit. 0:02:42.623,0:02:46.012 One of the things that really impresses me[br]about the people in the Gulf: 0:02:46.036,0:02:48.324 They are really, really aquatic people. 0:02:48.348,0:02:49.976 And they can handle water. 0:02:50.000,0:02:52.632 They can handle a hurricane[br]that comes and goes. 0:02:52.656,0:02:54.976 When the water goes down,[br]they know what to do. 0:02:55.000,0:02:59.756 But when it's something other than water,[br]and their water habitat changes, 0:02:59.780,0:03:01.429 they don't have many options. 0:03:01.453,0:03:05.511 In fact, those entire communities[br]really don't have many options. 0:03:05.535,0:03:08.171 They don't have another thing they can do. 0:03:08.195,0:03:12.268 They can't go and work[br]in the local hotel business 0:03:12.292,0:03:15.000 because there isn't one[br]in their community. 0:03:16.522,0:03:20.980 If you go to the Gulf and you look around,[br]you do see a lot of oil. 0:03:21.004,0:03:22.853 You see a lot of oil on the ocean. 0:03:22.877,0:03:24.976 You see a lot of oil on the shoreline. 0:03:25.000,0:03:28.976 If you go to the site of the blowout,[br]it looks pretty unbelievable. 0:03:29.000,0:03:31.976 It looks like you just emptied[br]the oil pan in your car, 0:03:32.000,0:03:34.271 and you just dumped it in the ocean. 0:03:34.295,0:03:37.160 And one of the really[br]most incredible things, I think, 0:03:37.184,0:03:40.756 is that there's nobody out there[br]trying to collect it 0:03:40.780,0:03:43.583 at the site where it is densest. 0:03:44.397,0:03:48.432 Parts of the ocean there[br]look just absolutely apocalyptic. 0:03:50.557,0:03:53.962 You go in along the shore,[br]you can find it everywhere. 0:03:55.056,0:03:56.212 It's really messy. 0:03:56.236,0:03:58.607 If you go to the places[br]where it's just arriving, 0:03:58.631,0:04:01.066 like the eastern part[br]of the Gulf, in Alabama, 0:04:01.090,0:04:02.976 there's still people using the beach 0:04:03.000,0:04:05.143 while there are people[br]cleaning up the beach. 0:04:05.167,0:04:07.889 And they have a very strange[br]way of cleaning up the beach. 0:04:07.913,0:04:10.572 They're not allowed to put[br]more than 10 pounds of sand 0:04:10.596,0:04:12.304 in a 50-gallon plastic bag. 0:04:12.328,0:04:14.684 They have thousands[br]and thousands of plastic bags. 0:04:14.708,0:04:16.998 I don't know what they'll do[br]with all that stuff. 0:04:17.022,0:04:19.743 Meanwhile, there are still[br]people trying to use the beach. 0:04:19.767,0:04:22.545 They don't see the sign[br]that says: "Stay out of the water." 0:04:22.569,0:04:23.998 Their kids are in the water; 0:04:24.022,0:04:26.951 they're getting tar all over[br]their clothes and their sandals-- 0:04:26.975,0:04:28.186 It's a mess. 0:04:28.210,0:04:31.714 If you go to where the oil has been[br]for a while, it's an even bigger mess. 0:04:31.738,0:04:34.122 And there's basically[br]nobody there anymore, 0:04:34.146,0:04:37.012 a few people trying to keep using it. 0:04:37.758,0:04:40.096 You see people who are really[br]shell-shocked. 0:04:40.120,0:04:42.109 They are very hardworking people. 0:04:42.133,0:04:44.743 All they know about life[br]is they get up in the morning, 0:04:44.767,0:04:47.063 and if their engine starts,[br]they go to work. 0:04:47.087,0:04:51.376 They always felt that[br]they could rely on the assurances 0:04:51.400,0:04:54.690 that nature brought them[br]through the ecosystem of the Gulf. 0:04:54.714,0:04:57.506 They're finding that their world[br]is really collapsing. 0:04:57.530,0:05:03.416 And so you can see, literally,[br]signs of their shock ... 0:05:05.000,0:05:07.476 signs of their outrage ... 0:05:10.622,0:05:12.439 signs of their anger ... 0:05:17.321,0:05:19.765 and signs of their grief. 0:05:20.834,0:05:23.103 These are the things that you can see. 0:05:25.000,0:05:28.609 There's a lot you can't see,[br]also, underwater. 0:05:29.626,0:05:31.495 What's going on underwater? 0:05:31.519,0:05:35.128 Well, some people say[br]there are oil plumes. 0:05:35.152,0:05:37.976 Some people say there are not oil plumes. 0:05:38.823,0:05:41.174 And Congressman Markey asks, you know, 0:05:41.198,0:05:46.155 "Is it going to take a submarine ride[br]to see if there are really oil plumes?" 0:05:46.727,0:05:48.638 But I couldn't take a submarine ride -- 0:05:48.662,0:05:52.751 especially between the time I knew[br]I was coming here and today -- 0:05:52.775,0:05:55.976 so I had to do a little experiment myself 0:05:56.000,0:05:58.386 to see if there was oil[br]in the Gulf of Mexico. 0:05:58.410,0:06:00.065 So this is the Gulf of Mexico ... 0:06:01.336,0:06:02.983 sparkling place full of fish. 0:06:04.411,0:06:07.104 And I created a little oil spill[br]in the Gulf of Mexico. 0:06:07.874,0:06:10.574 And I learned, in fact,[br]I confirmed the hypothesis 0:06:10.598,0:06:12.800 that oil and water don't mix ... 0:06:14.309,0:06:16.610 until you add a dispersant ... 0:06:18.088,0:06:19.285 and then ... 0:06:20.890,0:06:22.322 they start mixing. 0:06:23.409,0:06:27.630 And you add a little energy[br]from the wind and the waves, 0:06:27.654,0:06:30.949 and you get a big mess, 0:06:30.973,0:06:34.108 a big mess that you can't possibly clean, 0:06:34.132,0:06:37.153 you can't touch, you can't extract 0:06:37.177,0:06:40.442 and, I think most importantly --[br]this is what I think -- 0:06:40.466,0:06:41.976 you can't see it. 0:06:42.000,0:06:45.334 I think it's being hidden on purpose. 0:06:45.358,0:06:47.976 Now this is such a catastrophe[br]and such a mess 0:06:48.000,0:06:51.670 that lots of stuff is leaking out[br]on the edges of the information stream. 0:06:51.694,0:06:53.351 But as many people have said, 0:06:53.375,0:06:56.485 there's a large attempt[br]to suppress what's going on. 0:06:56.509,0:07:03.481 Personally, I think that the dispersants[br]are a major strategy to hide the body, 0:07:03.505,0:07:06.644 because we put the murderer[br]in charge of the crime scene. 0:07:07.570,0:07:08.976 But you can see it. 0:07:09.000,0:07:13.188 You can see where the oil[br]is concentrated at the surface, 0:07:13.212,0:07:15.843 and then it is attacked, 0:07:15.867,0:07:18.823 because they don't want[br]the evidence, in my opinion. 0:07:19.377,0:07:20.527 OK. 0:07:20.898,0:07:23.108 We heard that bacteria eat oil? 0:07:23.419,0:07:24.976 So do sea turtles. 0:07:25.525,0:07:26.933 When it breaks up, 0:07:26.957,0:07:30.431 it has a long way to go[br]before it gets down to bacteria. 0:07:30.896,0:07:33.976 Turtles eat it.[br]It gets in the gills of fish. 0:07:34.000,0:07:36.257 These guys have to swim around through it. 0:07:36.281,0:07:41.118 I heard the most incredible story today[br]when I was on the train coming here. 0:07:41.699,0:07:43.976 A writer named Ted Williams called me, 0:07:44.523,0:07:47.407 and he was asking me[br]a couple of questions about what I saw, 0:07:47.431,0:07:50.574 because he's writing an article[br]for Audubon magazine. 0:07:50.598,0:07:54.345 He said that he had been in the Gulf[br]a little while ago; like about a week ago, 0:07:54.369,0:07:58.283 and a guy who had[br]been a recreational fishing guide 0:07:58.307,0:08:00.976 took him out to show him what's going on. 0:08:01.000,0:08:05.976 That guide's entire calendar year[br]is canceled bookings. 0:08:06.000,0:08:07.913 He has no bookings left. 0:08:07.937,0:08:10.976 Everybody wanted their deposit back,[br]everybody is fleeing. 0:08:11.000,0:08:12.967 That's the story of thousands of people. 0:08:12.991,0:08:18.069 But he told Ted[br]that on the last day he went out, 0:08:18.625,0:08:22.347 a bottlenose dolphin[br]suddenly appeared next to the boat, 0:08:22.767,0:08:26.487 and it was splattering oil[br]out its blowhole. 0:08:27.938,0:08:32.653 And he moved away[br]because it was his last fishing trip, 0:08:33.799,0:08:35.976 and he knew that the dolphins scare fish. 0:08:36.000,0:08:39.884 So he moved away from it,[br]turned around a few minutes later, 0:08:39.908,0:08:42.155 it was right next to the side[br]of the boat again. 0:08:42.179,0:08:45.600 He said that in 30 years of fishing[br]he had never seen a dolphin do that. 0:08:45.624,0:08:47.185 And he felt that -- 0:08:47.693,0:08:48.896 (Sigh) 0:08:48.920,0:08:52.581 he felt that it was[br]coming to ask for help. 0:08:52.938,0:08:54.088 Sorry. 0:08:55.392,0:08:59.346 Now, in the Exxon Valdez spill, 0:08:59.860,0:09:04.614 about 30 percent of the killer whales[br]died in the first few months. 0:09:04.638,0:09:06.558 Their numbers have never recovered. 0:09:06.582,0:09:11.447 So the recovery rate of all this stuff[br]is going to be variable. 0:09:11.471,0:09:14.296 It's going to take longer for some things. 0:09:14.320,0:09:17.908 And some things, I think,[br]will probably come back a little faster. 0:09:18.273,0:09:20.976 The other thing about the Gulf[br]that is important 0:09:21.000,0:09:24.465 is that there are a lot of animals[br]that concentrate in the Gulf 0:09:24.489,0:09:27.025 at certain parts of the year. 0:09:27.822,0:09:30.429 So the Gulf is a really[br]important piece of water -- 0:09:30.453,0:09:35.363 more important than a similar volume[br]of water in the open Atlantic Ocean. 0:09:36.000,0:09:37.976 These tuna swim the entire ocean. 0:09:38.000,0:09:40.773 They get in the Gulf Stream,[br]they go all the way to Europe. 0:09:40.797,0:09:42.965 When it comes time to spawn,[br]they come inside, 0:09:42.989,0:09:44.714 and these two tuna that were tagged, 0:09:44.738,0:09:46.838 you can see them on the spawning grounds 0:09:46.862,0:09:49.567 very much right in the area of the slick. 0:09:49.591,0:09:52.076 They're probably having,[br]at the very least, 0:09:52.100,0:09:54.853 a catastrophic spawning season this year. 0:09:54.877,0:09:58.371 I'm hoping that maybe the adults[br]are avoiding that dirty water. 0:09:58.717,0:10:02.759 They don't usually like to go into water[br]that is very cloudy anyway. 0:10:03.148,0:10:06.940 But these are really[br]high-performance athletic animals. 0:10:06.964,0:10:10.206 I don't know what this kind of stuff[br]will do in their gills. 0:10:10.230,0:10:12.176 I don't know if it'll affect the adults. 0:10:12.200,0:10:15.017 If it's not, it's certainly affecting[br]their eggs and larvae, 0:10:15.041,0:10:16.228 I would certainly think. 0:10:16.252,0:10:19.595 But if you look at that graph[br]that goes down and down and down, 0:10:19.619,0:10:24.340 that's what we've done to this species[br]through overfishing over many decades. 0:10:24.364,0:10:29.521 So while the oil spill, the leak,[br]the eruption, is a catastrophe, 0:10:29.545,0:10:32.278 I think it's important to keep in mind 0:10:32.302,0:10:36.418 that we've done a lot to affect[br]what's in the ocean, for a very long time. 0:10:36.442,0:10:39.780 It's not like we're starting[br]with something that's been OK. 0:10:39.804,0:10:42.540 We're starting with something[br]that's had a lot of stresses 0:10:42.564,0:10:44.426 and a lot of problems to begin with. 0:10:44.450,0:10:48.476 If you look around at the birds,[br]there are a lot of birds in the Gulf 0:10:48.500,0:10:51.267 that concentrate in the Gulf[br]at certain times of the year, 0:10:51.291,0:10:52.575 but then leave. 0:10:52.599,0:10:55.671 And they populate much larger areas. 0:10:57.387,0:11:01.577 For instance, most of the birds[br]in this picture are migratory birds. 0:11:01.601,0:11:03.443 They were all on the Gulf in May, 0:11:03.467,0:11:06.584 while oil was starting[br]to come ashore in certain places. 0:11:06.608,0:11:11.163 Down on the lower left there[br]are ruddy turnstones and sanderlings. 0:11:11.187,0:11:12.910 They breed in the High Arctic, 0:11:12.934,0:11:15.496 and they winter[br]down in southern South America. 0:11:15.520,0:11:20.331 But they concentrate in the Gulf[br]and then fan out all across the Arctic. 0:11:20.355,0:11:23.481 I saw birds that breed[br]in Greenland, in the Gulf. 0:11:24.852,0:11:28.263 So this is a hemispheric issue. 0:11:28.287,0:11:33.083 The economic effects[br]go at least nationally in many ways. 0:11:33.107,0:11:36.174 The biological effects[br]are certainly hemispheric. 0:11:38.867,0:11:44.060 I think that this is one of the most[br]absolutely mind-boggling examples 0:11:44.084,0:11:46.896 of total unpreparedness[br]that I can even think of. 0:11:46.920,0:11:50.818 Even when the Japanese[br]bombed Pearl Harbor, 0:11:50.842,0:11:52.249 at least they shot back. 0:11:52.273,0:11:56.356 And we just seem to be unable[br]to figure out what to do. 0:11:56.380,0:12:00.016 There was nothing ready, 0:12:00.040,0:12:03.430 and, you know, as we can see[br]by what they're doing. 0:12:03.454,0:12:06.218 Mainly what they're doing[br]is booms and dispersants. 0:12:06.242,0:12:09.994 The booms are absolutely[br]not made for open water. 0:12:10.018,0:12:14.859 They don't even attempt to corral[br]the oil where it is most concentrated. 0:12:14.883,0:12:17.117 They get near shore --[br]Look at these two boats. 0:12:17.141,0:12:19.765 That one on the right[br]is called Fishing Fool. 0:12:19.789,0:12:21.799 And I think, you know, that's a great name 0:12:21.823,0:12:24.881 for boats that think[br]that they're going to do anything 0:12:24.905,0:12:27.977 to make a dent in this,[br]by dragging a boom between them 0:12:28.001,0:12:30.965 when there are literally[br]hundreds of thousands of square miles 0:12:30.989,0:12:33.870 in the Gulf right now[br]with oil at the surface. 0:12:33.894,0:12:37.644 The dispersants make the oil[br]go right under the booms. 0:12:37.668,0:12:41.032 The booms are only[br]about 13 inches in diameter. 0:12:41.867,0:12:44.893 So it's just absolutely crazy. 0:12:44.917,0:12:46.611 Here are shrimp boats employed. 0:12:46.635,0:12:50.576 There are hundreds of shrimp boats[br]employed to drag booms instead of nets. 0:12:50.600,0:12:51.923 Here they are working. 0:12:51.947,0:12:53.744 You can see easily 0:12:53.768,0:12:57.663 that all the oily water[br]just goes over the back of the boom. 0:12:57.687,0:12:59.637 All they're doing is stirring it. 0:12:59.661,0:13:01.259 It's just ridiculous. 0:13:03.104,0:13:05.209 Also, for all the shoreline[br]that has booms -- 0:13:05.233,0:13:07.404 hundreds and hundreds[br]of miles of shoreline -- 0:13:07.428,0:13:09.209 all of the shoreline that has booms, 0:13:09.233,0:13:11.919 there's adjacent shoreline[br]that doesn't have any booms. 0:13:11.943,0:13:16.976 There is ample opportunity for oil[br]and dirty water to get in behind them. 0:13:17.000,0:13:20.823 And that lower photo,[br]that's a bird colony that has been boomed. 0:13:20.847,0:13:25.416 Everybody's trying to protect[br]the bird colonies there. 0:13:25.440,0:13:30.671 Well, as an ornithologist,[br]I can tell you that birds fly, and that -- 0:13:30.695,0:13:33.000 (Laughter) 0:13:35.671,0:13:40.976 and that booming a bird colony[br]doesn't do it; it doesn't do it. 0:13:41.000,0:13:44.520 These birds make a living[br]by diving into the water. 0:13:45.623,0:13:46.773 In fact ... 0:13:48.140,0:13:51.283 really what I think[br]they should do, if anything -- 0:13:51.307,0:13:54.444 they're trying so hard[br]to protect those nests -- 0:13:54.468,0:13:57.141 actually, if they destroyed[br]every single nest, 0:13:57.165,0:13:59.201 some of the birds would leave, 0:13:59.225,0:14:01.530 and that would be better[br]for them this year. 0:14:02.415,0:14:03.948 As far as cleaning them ... 0:14:05.001,0:14:09.934 I don't mean to cast any aspersion[br]on people cleaning birds. 0:14:09.958,0:14:13.858 It's really, really important[br]that we express our compassion. 0:14:13.882,0:14:17.422 I think that's the most important[br]thing that people have, is compassion. 0:14:18.026,0:14:21.976 It's really important[br]to get those images and to show it. 0:14:22.000,0:14:25.375 But really, where are those birds[br]going to get released to? 0:14:25.399,0:14:27.844 It's like taking somebody[br]out of a burning building, 0:14:27.868,0:14:29.508 treating them for smoke inhalation 0:14:29.532,0:14:33.285 and sending them back into the building,[br]because the oil is still gushing. 0:14:33.686,0:14:37.578 I refuse to acknowledge this[br]as anything like an accident. 0:14:37.602,0:14:41.189 I think that this is the result[br]of gross negligence. 0:14:41.213,0:14:45.976 (Applause) 0:14:46.348,0:14:48.631 Not just BP. 0:14:48.655,0:14:55.312 BP operated very sloppily[br]and very recklessly because they could. 0:14:55.336,0:14:57.283 And they were allowed to do so 0:14:57.307,0:15:01.700 because of the absolute failure[br]of oversight of the government 0:15:01.724,0:15:06.049 that is supposed to be[br]our government, protecting us. 0:15:08.305,0:15:09.814 It turns out that -- 0:15:09.838,0:15:13.069 you see this sign on every commercial[br]vessel in the United States -- 0:15:13.093,0:15:15.695 you know, if you spilled[br]a couple of gallons of oil, 0:15:15.719,0:15:17.098 you would be in big trouble. 0:15:17.122,0:15:21.729 And you have to really wonder[br]who are the laws made for, 0:15:21.753,0:15:25.425 and who has gotten above the laws. 0:15:25.449,0:15:27.800 And there are things[br]that we can do in the future. 0:15:27.824,0:15:30.876 We could have the kinds of equipment[br]that we would really need. 0:15:30.900,0:15:33.503 It would not take[br]an awful lot to anticipate 0:15:33.876,0:15:36.271 that after making 30,000 holes 0:15:36.295,0:15:39.120 in the sea floor of the Gulf[br]of Mexico looking for oil, 0:15:39.144,0:15:41.537 oil might start coming out of one of them. 0:15:41.561,0:15:44.721 And you'd have some idea of what to do. 0:15:44.745,0:15:47.036 That's certainly[br]one of the things we need to do. 0:15:47.060,0:15:51.109 But I think we have to understand[br]where this leak really started from. 0:15:52.000,0:15:57.347 It really started from the destruction[br]of the idea that the government is there 0:15:57.371,0:15:59.086 because it's our government, 0:15:59.110,0:16:01.994 meant to protect[br]the larger public interest. 0:16:06.000,0:16:09.960 So I think that the oil blowout,[br]the bank bailout, 0:16:10.640,0:16:17.305 the mortgage crisis and all these things[br]are absolutely symptoms of the same cause. 0:16:18.236,0:16:21.105 We still seem to understand that at least, 0:16:21.129,0:16:25.519 we need the police to protect us[br]from a few bad people. 0:16:25.543,0:16:28.546 And even though the police[br]can be a little annoying at times -- 0:16:28.570,0:16:30.481 giving us tickets and stuff like that -- 0:16:30.505,0:16:33.030 nobody says that we should[br]just get rid of them. 0:16:33.054,0:16:35.976 But in the entire rest[br]of government right now 0:16:36.000,0:16:37.862 and for the last at least 30 years, 0:16:37.886,0:16:40.976 there has been a culture of deregulation 0:16:41.000,0:16:46.406 that is caused directly by the people[br]who we need to be protected from, 0:16:46.954,0:16:49.477 buying the government out from under us. 0:16:50.263,0:16:57.263 (Applause) 0:16:59.921,0:17:02.727 Now this has been a problem[br]for a very, very long time. 0:17:03.165,0:17:08.524 You can see that corporations were illegal[br]at the founding of America, 0:17:08.548,0:17:11.256 and even Thomas Jefferson complained 0:17:11.280,0:17:16.896 that they were already bidding defiance[br]to the laws of our country. 0:17:18.162,0:17:21.057 OK, people who say they're conservative, 0:17:21.691,0:17:26.504 if they really wanted to be[br]really conservative and patriotic, 0:17:26.528,0:17:29.572 they would tell[br]these corporations to go to hell. 0:17:30.183,0:17:33.000 That's what it would really mean[br]to be conservative. 0:17:33.807,0:17:38.505 So what we really need to do[br]is regain the idea 0:17:38.529,0:17:41.744 that it's our government[br]safeguarding our interests, 0:17:41.768,0:17:45.976 and regain a sense of unity[br]and common cause in our country 0:17:46.000,0:17:47.629 that really has been lost. 0:17:48.932,0:17:50.862 I think there are signs of hope. 0:17:50.886,0:17:52.976 We seem to be waking up a little bit. 0:17:53.415,0:17:56.427 The Glass-Steagall Act --[br]which was really to protect us 0:17:56.451,0:17:59.477 from the kind of thing[br]that caused the recession to happen, 0:17:59.501,0:18:03.193 and the bank meltdown and all that stuff[br]that required the bailouts -- 0:18:03.217,0:18:07.432 that was put in effect in 1933,[br]was systematically destroyed. 0:18:07.937,0:18:11.674 Now there's a mood to put[br]some of that stuff back in place, 0:18:11.698,0:18:16.219 but the lobbyists are already there[br]trying to weaken the regulations 0:18:16.243,0:18:18.976 after the legislation has just passed. 0:18:19.000,0:18:20.976 So it's a continued fight. 0:18:21.000,0:18:23.048 It's a historic moment right now. 0:18:23.072,0:18:27.085 We're either going to have an absolutely[br]unmitigated catastrophe 0:18:27.109,0:18:28.746 of this oil leak in the Gulf, 0:18:28.770,0:18:31.416 or we will make the moment[br]we need out of this, 0:18:31.440,0:18:33.107 as many people have noted today. 0:18:33.131,0:18:34.787 There's certainly a common theme 0:18:34.811,0:18:37.218 about needing to make[br]the moment out of this. 0:18:37.242,0:18:41.257 We've been through this before[br]with other ways of offshore drilling. 0:18:41.281,0:18:43.976 The first offshore wells[br]were called whales. 0:18:44.305,0:18:47.163 The first offshore drills[br]were called harpoons. 0:18:47.187,0:18:49.976 We emptied the ocean[br]of the whales at that time. 0:18:50.735,0:18:52.431 Now are we stuck with this? 0:18:52.455,0:18:56.367 Ever since we lived in caves,[br]every time we wanted any energy, 0:18:56.391,0:18:59.942 we lit something on fire,[br]and that is still what we're doing. 0:18:59.966,0:19:04.160 We're still lighting something on fire[br]every time we want energy. 0:19:04.590,0:19:08.075 And people say we can't have clean energy 0:19:08.099,0:19:10.411 because it's too expensive. 0:19:11.000,0:19:12.772 Who says it's too expensive? 0:19:12.796,0:19:15.054 People who sell us fossil fuels. 0:19:15.078,0:19:17.976 We've been here before with energy, 0:19:18.000,0:19:22.101 and people saying the economy[br]cannot withstand a switch, 0:19:22.125,0:19:25.337 because the cheapest energy was slavery. 0:19:25.361,0:19:28.118 Energy is always a moral issue. 0:19:28.142,0:19:30.407 It's an issue that is moral right now. 0:19:30.431,0:19:32.974 It's a matter of right and wrong. 0:19:32.998,0:19:34.166 Thank you very much. 0:19:34.190,0:19:35.563 (Applause)