WEBVTT 00:00:06.324 --> 00:00:11.175 Mike Kelly: Bad Boy 00:00:30.640 --> 00:00:35.192 Over and over over not so much now, but throughout my early career 00:00:35.192 --> 00:00:43.778 it was this bad boy thing. Bad boy, bad boy, bad boy, and was just like, I don't think I was ever a bad boy 00:00:43.778 --> 00:00:49.096 i don't think my work was ever about being a bad boy, it wasn't about being like a snotty teenager or this or that 00:00:49.096 --> 00:00:51.697 or that I was anti-intellectual. 00:00:51.697 --> 00:01:01.128 Obviously I'm not an anti-intellectual, and yet I felt that these kind of terms were used to put me in my place 00:01:01.128 --> 00:01:06.288 because my work didn't fit the cannon of work that was popular at that moment. 00:01:06.288 --> 00:01:09.881 It was simply like a cheap put down. 00:01:09.881 --> 00:01:25.570 Because I was associated with this so called, abject art movement, in which notions of failure came to play in the discusion of art 00:01:25.570 --> 00:01:29.968 and because a lot of my work looks towards so called, low forms 00:01:29.968 --> 00:01:36.418 like folk art or lower end mass culture. 00:01:36.418 --> 00:01:45.319 I think a lot critics of my work tend to confuse my use of that work with some kind of investment 00:01:45.319 --> 00:01:52.306 or I'm raising that up, or that this is some kind of blue collar aesthetic. 00:01:52.306 --> 00:02:00.439 Well I might come from that, but I have no love of it, but the art world has changed a lot because recently 00:02:00.439 --> 00:02:12.307 such things have found a place in the art world when, you know, fifteen years ago, you never see, in every gallery in New York 00:02:12.307 --> 00:02:23.794 some kind of, mass culture referent. Now every gallery has such things, and so all this discussion of slackers has become a positive term 00:02:23.794 --> 00:02:33.041 rather than a negative term, and it's like all this kind of discussion doesn't interest me whatsoever because who defines these things. 00:02:33.041 --> 00:02:43.138 If I'm a bad boy, there's a thousand times worse boys and girls and it's an academy, so, I'm grandpa when it comes to that. 00:02:43.138 --> 00:02:46.137 I don't need to think about it anymore. 00:02:46.137 --> 00:02:47.611 art21.org 00:02:47.611 --> 00:02:49.360 pbs.org/art21 00:02:49.360 --> 00:02:53.705 2010 Art21, Inc All Rights Reserved