0:00:06.324,0:00:11.175 Mike Kelly: Bad Boy 0:00:30.640,0:00:35.192 Over and over over not so much now, but throughout my early career 0:00:35.192,0:00:43.778 it was this bad boy thing. Bad boy, bad boy, bad boy, and was just like, I don't think I was ever a bad boy 0:00:43.778,0:00:49.096 i don't think my work was ever about being a bad boy, it wasn't about being like a snotty teenager or this or that 0:00:49.096,0:00:51.697 or that I was anti-intellectual. 0:00:51.697,0:01:01.128 Obviously I'm not an anti-intellectual, and yet I felt that these kind of terms were used to put me in my place 0:01:01.128,0:01:06.288 because my work didn't fit the cannon of work that was popular at that moment. 0:01:06.288,0:01:09.881 It was simply like a cheap put down. 0:01:09.881,0:01:25.570 Because I was associated with this so called, abject art movement, in which notions of failure came to play in the discusion of art 0:01:25.570,0:01:29.968 and because a lot of my work looks towards so called, low forms 0:01:29.968,0:01:36.418 like folk art or lower end mass culture. 0:01:36.418,0:01:45.319 I think a lot critics of my work tend to confuse my use of that work with some kind of investment 0:01:45.319,0:01:52.306 or I'm raising that up, or that this is some kind of blue collar aesthetic. 0:01:52.306,0:02:00.439 Well I might come from that, but I have no love of it, but the art world has changed a lot because recently 0:02:00.439,0:02:12.307 such things have found a place in the art world when, you know, fifteen years ago, you never see, in every gallery in New York 0:02:12.307,0:02:23.794 some kind of, mass culture referent. Now every gallery has such things, and so all this discussion of slackers has become a positive term 0:02:23.794,0:02:33.041 rather than a negative term, and it's like all this kind of discussion doesn't interest me whatsoever because who defines these things. 0:02:33.041,0:02:43.138 If I'm a bad boy, there's a thousand times worse boys and girls and it's an academy, so, I'm grandpa when it comes to that. 0:02:43.138,0:02:46.137 I don't need to think about it anymore. 0:02:46.137,0:02:47.611 art21.org 0:02:47.611,0:02:49.360 pbs.org/art21 0:02:49.360,0:02:53.705 2010 Art21, Inc All Rights Reserved