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Хэрэв та ерөнхийлөгч биш байсан бол өөрийн амьдралыг төсөөлж байна уу?

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Дашрамд хэлэхэд энэ нь нэлээд давтагддаг асуулт юм

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Үнэндээ энэ нь нүүрсний уурхай дахь канар шувуу шиг гэж хэлж болно

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Гэж би бодож байна.

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Тухайн хүн буцаах боломжтой байсан бол ердийн орон сууцанд амьдрана

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ордны дотоод дизайнаас ташаал авахын оронд.

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Энэ тохиолдолд тэр "Гадаад ертөнц"-тэй холболтоо алдахгүй байсан гэж бодож байна.

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Би энэ өндөр албан тушаалд байгаа ч амьдралаа хялбараар төсөөлж чадахгүй.

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1999 оны 8-р сарын 7-нд юу болсон юм бол....

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"Үйл явдалууд зүрх сэтгэлд"

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Кавказын мэдээ.

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Шамиль Басаев Дагестаны тэмцэгчдийг удирдаж байна

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for keeping it short

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I am not going to sit down
for keeping it short.

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Situation is very serious now
in Dagestan and in Caucasus.

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I just came back from there.

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It's really difficult situation.

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Real serious.

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Probably, we can really lose Dagestan...

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Coordination is very bad, so far.

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And for some reason everyone
is asking for political..

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I was forced to go there yesterday and
tell that I am taking full responsibility.

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And now about the current events.

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I have met with the President this morning.

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He signed my resignation

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Thanked me for good work

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And dismissed me

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Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin
is appointed as interim

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He is the Secretary of
Security Council and head of FSB.

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Descent and honourable person I think.

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I would like to wish him luck.

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Luck only,

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cause all the rest he already has.

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August 9th, 1999

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The man, whom Boris Yeltsin has chosen

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to be the head of his obsolete government

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was practically unknown former spy

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and head of Security Council: Vladimir Putin

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Even more remarkable was Yeltsin's statement

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that it was Putin who ought
to become a president of Russia

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after Yeltsin's retirement next year.

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People had absolutely no trust
to the government.

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Caucasus war was going on.

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The war was not only in Caucasus
but everywhere in the country.

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You might remember those
terrorist attacks etc.

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It was not so long ago

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just 14-15 years ago.

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Caucasus war came to Moscow"

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Chechen trace?"

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August 14th, 1999

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This conflict became the first serious test

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for acting Prime Minister Vladimir Putin.

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Putin stated that Russia will be able

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to take situation in Dagestan
under control in less than 2 weeks.

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I wasn't really able to make
decisions at that moment.

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I was forced to deal with it,

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though I didn't have full powers.

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It was clearly a huge responsibility.

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It was a matter of course

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and I have had onl one question,

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I am not even going to talk
about it on camera now.

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In case if I won't manage to finish this task,

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then what should I do
and how should I live further?

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I have decided for myself
that it's the only option.

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I should go till the end.

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I never heard of name Putin back then.

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It was in August-September of 1999.

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Experience of the previous 1$t
Chechen campaign was pretty hard.

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There was a long line of misfortunes

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and often even betrayals.


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And in 1999 when Chaban Makhikov...

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during that Khattab's assault on Dagestan,

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that’s when I first heard
the name of our president.

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Vladimir Ivanov, our
platoon commander, said.

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We got a new one."

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He came into some general's tent

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and they raised a toast to future victory.

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I would really like, in
accordance with Russian tradition

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and tradition of holy Dagestan land
where we are today,

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to raise this glass

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and drink to the memory of those who died.

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A second, just a second

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I would like to raise a glass

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to the health of ones who are wounded

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and to wish happiness
to everyone present here.

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But we have a lot of problems ahead of us

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and important tasks
you know that very well.

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You do know what enemy
is planning to do.

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All of us know that

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What provocations are to be
expected in the nearest future,

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in what regions etc.

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We don't have a right

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to allow ourselves
a single moment of weakness.

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Not a single moment.

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Because if we will,

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then those who died, did it for nothing.

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That's why I’d like to propose the following.

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we will absolutely raise our glasses to them,

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absolutely.

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But we will do it later.

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Later.

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When this task, the crucial task
you all know about, will be completed.

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That's why I propose
to grab a bite of food now

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and go back to work.

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He put glass on the table and I remember
surprise of our platoon commander

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and his respect.

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He said that probably it will work differently
than during the previous campaign

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cause this glass he put

back on the table,

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in his man's view, it had
some good special meaning.

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And after that couple of days later,

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when military jets flew to Khattab’s units and
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it became clear then that
this glass returned on the table

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had very obvious meaning

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It meant that everything
will be the right way.

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We will be chasing terrorists everywhere.

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and if we find them
in the toilet, pardon me,

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We will rub them out in the outhouse!

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The end, issue closed!

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What's going on in Chechnya,

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is caused by the fact that Russia is not willing

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to solve these issues in political way,

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by talking to the Chechen leaders.

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There are two categories of Russian soldiers
on the territory of Chechnya.

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those who lie in coffins and
those who WILL lie in coffins.

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There was no other solution
than suppressing this terrorism.

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It was impossible
to come to an agreement

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I remember very clearly and
I told about that before, I think,

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that while I was head of FSB I was reading
different investigative documents

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including ones of international terrorists,
what they were writing to each other.

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It's a unique historic occasion today.

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We have a chance to tear
Caucasus away from Russia.

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Today or never."

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But it was clear for us as well.

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either we'll hold it today

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or we'll never have another
chance to save the country.

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Well, at that moment practically
everyone, except only us maybe,

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cause an average citizen didn't go into details,
and wasn't much aware of what was happening,

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but for anyone in the world,

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as many of my colleagues, presidents
and prime ministers, were telling me later,

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it was a sure thing that Russia will
seize to exist in its current borders.

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The only question was when it will happen
and what will be the consequences,

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considering that it was a large nuclear power.

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On December 31st, 1999, at 10 am

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I got a phone call from Boris Yeltsin office.

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And I was told that I have to be
in his office in half an hour.

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I was invited into his office.

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We were standing there,
witnessing the power transfer,

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including the transfer of
nuclear suitcase too, by the way.

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I remember this day very well.

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On December 31st we were invited
for breakfast with the President.

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We were about 8 people.

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I saw that someone was carrying a TV.

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If you remember, TVs used to be
thick, chubby ones back then.

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They placed the TV there.

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Boris Nikolaevich and Vladimir
Vladimirovich came over.

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They sat down and turned on TV.

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I am... leaving

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Leaving before... the end of the term.

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I realized that it's what I have to do.

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Russia has to start a new Millennium

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with new politicians, new faces.

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With new clever, strong, energetic people.

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That's where we heard that
Boris Nikolayevich has left

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and has passed his president duties
to Vladimir Vladimirovich.

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After that Vladimir Vladimirovich
invited me to his office in Kremlin

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and told me that it would be a good idea
to congratulate our Army Forces.

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Spiritual welfare of the Army
Forces was quite bad.

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It was necessary to bolster
morale of the servicemen,

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make them believe in themselves.

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At the same time, we had to
ensure security of this event,

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cause we were flying in the combat zone.

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It was worrisome of course, the president
is flying, weather is terrible,

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by the helicopters.

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Our helicopter was shelled

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and we were forced
to go back to Makhachkala.

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By this time we prepared the cars

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which we used to get to Gudermes.

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I was in Gudermes.

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My father knew that he is coming over

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don’t know where he knew this from.

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It was a secret.

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Nobody believed it even myself.

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Fighting is going on everywhere
but Putin will come,

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in a civil car to Dagestan...

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We arrived to Gudermes
somewhat around 4:30 pm

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and we met New Year's Eve
already with the servicemen.

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Guys, our congratulations
on the New Year.

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We wish you happiness and
all the best for the new year!

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Good health to everyone
and happy family life!

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I would like you to know

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that Russia highly
appreciates what you do.

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And country really needs what you do.
Really needs it.

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I am not only talking about restoring
of country's Honour and Dignity.

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No I mean much more
serious things by that.

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I am talking about putting an end
to the demise of Russia.

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This is your main goal.

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Setting up a goal always meant for Putin

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having a concrete result
after a specified time.

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And when Putin said that problem
has to be resolved in 2 weeks,

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in 2 weeks it was resolved.

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A lot of hard work
was done with the locals.

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As the result of it, enormous number
of local Dagestan residents

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with weapon in their hands
took side of Federal Forces,

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fought with the terrorists
and won over them eventually.

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The same story was in Chechnya.

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We have to act very carefully,

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in a way that we wouldn't cause
damage to the civilians.

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Because there are... there are...

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besides the armed militants and bandits
there are also women, children

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elderly people are there too.

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There are veterans of the Great
Patriotic War there too by the way!

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Whom all of us own
the victory over fascism,

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they were taking part in it.

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And we treat them as family

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Sorry. I can't walk all the way through...

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The very same Akhmad Hadzhi Kadyrov,

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he actually believed Putin,
believed this work.

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He followed Putin

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and hundreds and thousands of
other Chechens did too after him.

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This was a surprise

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a feeling that a strange,
new person has appeared.

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I met both his mother and father.

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The war for Vladimir Vladimirovich,
is the same as for me, probably.

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It's not only the heroism of people,

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but also a personal tragedy
which will never die.

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On Piskarevskoe cemetery,
in one of the mass graves,

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his older brother is buried.

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He was practically a child
when he has died.

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His father was heavily wounded in Nevsky
Pyatachok, it was a miracle he survived.

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He came back home from the hospital

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right at the moment when our future President
mother was carried out of the apartment.

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Medics were loading her
in a truck as a dead body.

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He chased them away, using his crutches.

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She was washed out but
he nursed her back to life.

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When he came to Moscow for work,

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his parents were already pretty old,

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they had to be looked after.

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And using every chance, Putin was
travelling there in order to see them,

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to talk to them and to provide
with any help they needed.

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We used to talk about different topics.

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When we were talking in a close circle,

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we were remembering
our mothers, childhood.

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I was saying that it's really strange

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that we don't appreciate
our moms while they are still alive,

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can't find time to come over
spend time with her,

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listen to her give her a hug.

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And then he was also taking
a walk down memory lane.

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I could feel that he was moved deeply.

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March 25th, 2000.

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Cold St Petersburg was founded
by the great Russian Tzar Peter I,

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who built city on the sea
and made it the capital.

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From these times it was representing
the best of the country,

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but sometimes the worst of it too.

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But along with its glamour

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we also met the hard realities
of Russia today.

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Maria Semyonova,
who is 80 years old,

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is forced to live in a communal apartment
together with 30 other people.

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The fair people should be In power

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so that we could see at least
a bit of fair and honest life.

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Putin is better, he is better!

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By what?

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By everything!
Everything!

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He'll do everything in a fair way,

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unless they'll wipe him out.

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Maria was planning to give
her vote to the communists,

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but like many others she trusts Putin.

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I couldn’t imagine in my worst nightmare

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that I'll be ever running for president

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Cause I think it's absolutely dishonest thing.

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Don’t faugh, It's all about making promises,

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better than the ones of your competitors.

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The way election campaign was run,

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the way I managed to structure it.

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relieved me from this necessity
to mislead large amounts of people.

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And I am glad about it.

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That's why tomorrow
a normal working

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We'll have a meeting tomorrow, at 10 am...

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He called me and asked to come to work.

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I was telling him honestly that
I won't manage, I am afraid...

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Are you afraid so much that your will
is paralysed and you can't do anything?

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I am afraid too!'' - he said.

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It's a huge responsibility,
I am afraid that I won't manage,

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but someone has to take care of this

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We were given this opportunity,

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let's try to give a boost to this country"

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I think that the most important question
we started to ask ourselves

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was "what are we going to do next?"

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This was a serious question with no answer.

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Nobody was fully understanding what to do.

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Very often

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from the most ordinary people
on the streets of our cities

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I heard very simple words but
ones very important for me.

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They were telling me.
We believe you,

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we are counting on you.

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Just please don't betray us."

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I can assure you,

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that I will act solely
in country's best interests.

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Probably I won't avoid mistakes

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00:21:42,840 --> 00:21:45,919
but what I can really promise,

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that I'll be working openly and honestly!

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[President of Russian Federation
Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin]

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We made the first attempt
to analyse the situation

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in economy, finance, social services,

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judicial and legal system.

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I remember how we were gathering
sometimes in the evenings

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and... and somebody said

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It seems that we have
Chechnya everywhere".

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Chechnya wasn’t a geographical thing,

312
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in reality Chechnya was practically
in every field of work.

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Weakness of the state and authorities in 90s

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was causing a fear that the new
authorities won't manage either

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and will be easily manipulated,
by the oligarchs in particular.

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When you became a president,

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Russia was ruled by
the powerful oligarchic clan.

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They were looking at you
and thinking: "We'll eat him up".

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Yes.

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We'll make a deal".

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And among all these wolves

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who used to define the authorities

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and everything happening
in the country in 90s,

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they not only needed to be taken down
a notch but to be torn apart

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all opportunities being
taken away from them.

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Well some of them when I was
the Chairman of the Government,

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and after Yeltsin declared
that I'll be running for president

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couple of them came to my office
in the White House.

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they sat down opposite of me and said.

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You should understand that
you'll NEVER be a president here".

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I answered them: "Well, we'll see".

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That's the kind of scenes I was having
In this very White House.

333
00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:42,399
And how did you manage
to take them down a notch?

334
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In different ways,
using different means.

335
00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:53,959
I remember very vividly
that summer meeting in 2000.

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This was actually a first meeting
of president Putin

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with business representatives
a large scale meeting.

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00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:06,439
It was very important for us to hear

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what kind of a country Putin is building.

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00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:11,199
And for Putin is was crucial to explain

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00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:14,879
what kind of behavior he was
expecting from us as businessmen.

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00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:18,199
He told us right away: "No guys,
it won't be possible to deny the heritage".

343
00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:25,199
I just wanted to draw
your attention to the point

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that it was you who
have been creating this state.

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Mainly though political and para-political
structures under your control.

346
00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:41,319
That’s why you should have
a better look in a mirror.

347
00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:44,239
Putin didn't have any aggression
he was very calm.

348
00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:46,559
But the system will be built
in a different way now.

349
00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:49,399
And everyone has to
contribute to this system.

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00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:51,239
What kind of contribution?

351
00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:54,118
Your business has to be transparent,

352
00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:56,199
you have to pay taxes

353
00:24:56,200 --> 00:25:00,599
you shouldn't sweat your workers

354
00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:04,279
but you should pay them
reasonable salaries instead.

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00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:05,999
In different words,

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00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:09,479
right to existence and right to respect

357
00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:12,118
you will have to earn

358
00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:14,879
considering the mess you created by now.

359
00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:17,479
The biggest part of economy at that time

360
00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:20,439
was not even in grey, but in black zone.

361
00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:23,358
Salary in the envelopes

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00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:25,799
not paying taxes.

363
00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:30,799
criminal outrage.

364
00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:34,479
Average pension in 2000

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00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:35,439
(many people forgot about it already)

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00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:39,839
was bit more than 800 rubles.


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00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:43,599
And people weren't paid even this
kind of pension for half a year.

368
00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:46,279
They weren’t paid salaries for half a year.

369
00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:48,679
Lots of people, even
the majority of the country,

370
00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:51,079
was busy just trying to survive

371
00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:56,679
By the beginning of the 2000s
many strategic enterprises

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00:25:56,680 --> 00:25:59,358
were taken from the state control.


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Unemployment was high,
there was large shady employment.

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00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:08,199
This was happening around year 2000.


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Country he took into his hands,

376
00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:17,799
it was in a state of melting ice
not even a ship

377
00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:20,519
which was slowly falling into oblivion.

378
00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:29,199
Kursk" is in trouble.

379
00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:31,719
We are talking about lives
of 116 crew members...

380
00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:34,679
It seems that 7th compartment is drowned.

381
00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:36,839
It makes evacuation more difficult.

382
00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:48,999
We were sitting in a hall
and waiting for Putin.

383
00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:51,479
I was sitting in the 2nd row,

384
00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:55,559
together with mariner's wives.

385
00:26:56,640 --> 00:27:00,279
Frankly speaking, I thought
they will simply tear him to pieces.

386
00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:07,358
I was wondering how
did he dare to come here?

387
00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:10,118
Didn't he realize
what they will do to him?

388
00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:15,599
They were expecting that "Kursk"
submarine will be recovered, saved.

389
00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:19,439
And at the same time they were realizing

390
00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:22,919
that it was probably hopeless.

391
00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:25,719
There was such energy there...

392
00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:32,039
a bundle of hate...
and despair... and pain...

393
00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:38,439
Never in my whole life
I felt anything like this.

394
00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:42,239
Every question was
directed to this single man.

395
00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:44,919
Let her speak don't stop her.

396
00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:48,479
The question is.

397
00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:56,039
that it was hard to imagine,
for me as well, I am frank with you,

398
00:27:56,040 --> 00:28:01,839
we didn't know that our country is
in such a tough situation,

399
00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:04,399
that our Army Forces
are in tough situation,

400
00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:07,159
that our fleet is ...

401
00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:12,519
is in breakdown state or
in tough situation at least.

402
00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:16,839
So, everything is in such a state,
that I could never imagine.

403
00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:20,358
Everything is ruined!

Not a damn thing left!

404
00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:23,439
A woman next to me fainted

405
00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:26,479
few minutes after this conversation started.

406
00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:29,118
She was yelling something,

407
00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:32,239
they were interrupting him
in the beginning.

408
00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:37,999
Clearly they were more eager
to speak up than to listen to him.

409
00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:42,039
And... at some point he even fell silent

410
00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:44,639
and was only listening to them talk.

411
00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:47,959
But then he started to respond after all.

412
00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:52,039
If I only could, you know,
I would get in there myself!

413
00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:53,999
I was getting in there before.
as you already know.

414
00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:58,959
None of our or foreign specialists
can reach 8th compartment.

415
00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:01,959
In order to... for lifting it up...

416
00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:04,039
I am taking responsibility for my words,

417
00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:06,679
I could tell you lots of things and run away.

418
00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:08,799
I am telling you how things really are.

419
00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:12,519
This is the bitter truth but it's TRUTH.

420
00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:14,279
The way it really is.

421
00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:16,399
At some point I realized

422
00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:20,439
that together with him
all of them crossed the line

423
00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:26,239
which was separating
their husbands lives from death.

424
00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:30,879
Together with him they crossed it over
and moved on.

425
00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:36,919
We mapped out plans then,

426
00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:40,279
which were aimed at...
I'd describe it with one word.

427
00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:43,199
glueing the country.


428
00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:46,519
Because at that moment,
excuse my French,

429
00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:48,799
country was scattering like porridge.

430
00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:57,839
It was in fashion then to disparage
Federal centre and central authorities.

431
00:29:57,880 --> 00:30:00,559
Back then any governor
could take the liberty

432
00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:02,399
to ignore president's invitation.

433
00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:02,999
Head of Sakha Republic announced

434
00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:09,239
that we should lease out
all our treasures to Japan,

435
00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:14,519
just let them pay to every Yakut
some amount of dollars

436
00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:16,799
and everything
is going to be all right.

437
00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:23,079
At the time when every region
was governing itself

438
00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:27,559
making its own laws and
controlling execution of its own laws,

439
00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:32,599
these were the signs of losing the country,

440
00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:34,519
as a sovereign state.

441
00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:49,399
At that moment our Republic

442
00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:55,199
wasn't fully in legal framework
of the Russian Federation.

443
00:30:56,440 --> 00:31:00,799
And Vladimir Vladimirovich said very calmly.

444
00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:06,199
Tatarstan has to be fully incorporated in
legal framework of Russian Federation".

445
00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:09,759
Wash out Putin in Hague Tribunal!"
No Tatatarstan’s bread for empire's suckers!"

446
00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:14,359
It would be fair to adopt a special program on
social and economic development of Tatarstan

447
00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:19,599
under conditions of full incorporation into
legal framework of Russian Federation.

448
00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:23,439
And he said: "This is correct
presentation of the problem".

449
00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:26,999
I must say that it was done
in couple of months.

450
00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:39,439
First winter, the first president's winter,

451
00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:42,759
in the Russian Far East.

452
00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:45,999
There were left without heating

453
00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:49,839
250 thousand, then 300, 400 thousand people,

454
00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:52,039
entire cities and villages.

455
00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:55,639
Hospitals weren't functioning because of cold,

456
00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:57,559
no heating at all.

457
00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:01,999
Complete chaos...

458
00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:05,639
vertical power structure,
putting it mildly,

459
00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:09,119
is probably not restored yet

460
00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:11,519
the way Putin needed.

461
00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:14,199
Everything is working dreadfully.

462
00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:16,519
Mine workers are on the street.

463
00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:19,319
There is no work mines are closed.

464
00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:23,239
At the same time in Central Siberia

465
00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:26,759
large piles of coal are lying at the harbors.

466
00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:30,799
Coal which is already sold
and awaiting the shipment

467
00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:33,519
to the buyers outside of Russia.

468
00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:36,439
And then president made the decision

469
00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:38,959
that it should be stopped immediately,

470
00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:42,039
coal should be sent to the boiler stations
on the territory of Russia.

471
00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:47,999
Putin could solve this problem
by manual control only.

472
00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:50,959
Radiators, iron radiators,

473
00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:53,159
were transported by airplanes

474
00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:57,919
This was absurd, indeed
in regard of effectivity and costs.

475
00:32:57,920 --> 00:33:01,279
However, it was absolutely justified

476
00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:04,039
in regard of preventing people from freezing.

477
00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:09,959
Heads of 24 cities and regions were fired.

478
00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:16,839
By president's order they were
rousted from warm beds at night

479
00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:22,199
and forced to write resignation
letters right at the doorstep.

480
00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:24,599
Criminal charges were brought.

481
00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:30,559
One way or another,
they started to wake up somehow,

482
00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:36,279
those who retained their job positions.

483
00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:40,119
This was an important and serious example

484
00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:43,279
and both authorities and the president showed
that there is power in the country,

485
00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:44,559
strong power.

486
00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:49,719
January 20, 2001

487
00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:12,717
When George Bush became President

488
00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:17,478
he started making some strong statements
on human rights issues

489
00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:22,478
favourite passages about democracy,
Chechnya, freedom of the media

490
00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:24,599
a standard set of criticisms.

491
00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:31,518
And for a half year or so, there was
a sort of ping-pong of harsh statements.

492
00:34:31,639 --> 00:34:34,279
Washington raised the temperature.

493
00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:37,399
Moscow raised the temperature too.

494
00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:39,918
For a long time Washington made it clear

495
00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:42,879
it was not prepared
to talk to Moscow face to face.

496
00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:44,759
But now the situation has changed.

497
00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:48,199
Today George Bush and Vladimir Putin
shook hands for the first time

498
00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:51,319
in the Brdo Castle
40 km from Slovenia's capital - Ljubljana.

499
00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:51,998
The President listens carefully
to our arguments and hears them.

500
00:34:55,159 --> 00:34:58,519
Can you trust Russia?
I'm not going to answer this question.

501
00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:03,639
I'll ask you the same question.

502
00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:08,399
I'll answer this question.
I looked the man in the eye.

503
00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:12,639
I found him to be very straightforward
and trustworthy.

504
00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:14,679


505
00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:20,079
I was able to get a sense of his soul

506
00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:24,519
a man deeply committed to his country
and the best interests of his country.

507
00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:29,639
We can guess that this phrase
was not prepared in advance

508
00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:34,839
but was his spontaneous
improvised reaction

509
00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:38,879
to his first impression of talking
to the Russian President,

510
00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:45,679
which is confirmed by the fact
that within 7 years they met 18 times!

511
00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:51,879
In terms of personal relations,
Bush and Putin got on really well.


512
00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:56,279
They joked and laughed a lot

513
00:35:56,400 --> 00:36:01,119
But by that time
the USA were already convinced

514
00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:06,879
that Russia had entered a mode
of some colonial democracy,

515
00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:13,238
that we were firmly on the IMF hook,

516
00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:19,039
that we should continue to get instructions
from foreign experts


517
00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:23,359
on how to develop our economy
on where to pump our oil to...

518
00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:26,119
But from the outside,
everything looked very correct

519
00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:31,439
pats on the back words of encouragement
guys, you're on the right track, and so on.

520
00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:33,319
At that time, we all had illusions.

521
00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:37,439
It seemed to us
that after the Soviet Union had collapsed

522
00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:40,718
and after Russia had voluntarily agreed
I'd like to stress it

523
00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:45,919
voluntarily and consciously agreed
to absolute historic limitations

524
00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:50,959
the renunciation of its own territories,
production assets

525
00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:53,199
and so on and so forth...

526
00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:57,199
It seemed to us that after the disappearance
of the ideological component

527
00:36:57,320 --> 00:37:01,679
that used to separate the former USSR
from the rest of the civilized world,

528
00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:05,919
The prison walls would crash... Content,
At door would freedom wait to meet us,

529
00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:08,919
Our brothers, hastening to greet us,
To us the sword will glad present." [Pushkin]

530
00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:11,279
By "brothers" we understood those abroad.

531
00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:14,599
But the "brothers" were not only in no haste
to present the sword to us,

532
00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:21,119
but would have been glad to take
the remnants of the USSR military might.

533
00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:24,679
There is a lot of disillusion
in your words.

534
00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:31,639
Yes as I said, for almost 20 years
I worked for the KGB, in foreign intelligence.

535
00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:36,759
And even I believed
that once the ideological barrier had fallen

536
00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:41,039
and the Communist Party
no longer had a monopoly on power,

537
00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:43,119
everything would change fundamentally.

538
00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:46,519
No. There hasn't been
any fundamental change.

539
00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:48,559
Because, as it turns out

540
00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:53,079
such simple things
but they don't occur to you at once

541
00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:57,559
there are also geopolitical interests,
that have nothing to do with any ideology.

542
00:37:57,719 --> 00:38:03,718
And our partners should have realised
that such country as Russia

543
00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:07,319
has - and cannot but have
its own geopolitical interests,

544
00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:10,439
and that we should
treat each other with respect

545
00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:15,639
and seek mutually beneficial solutions.

546
00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:19,399
But respect is based on strength
and fairness of your position.

547
00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:22,718
Yes, yes...
One well-known person once said.

548
00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:28,119
You can get much farther
with a kind word and a Smith & Wesson

549
00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:30,759
than you can with a kind word alone.

550
00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:32,519
Unfortunately, he was right.

551
00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:35,718
You had the kind word,
but not the Smith & Wesson.

552
00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:38,519
And you had to restore the army
to a large extent,

553
00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:41,479
to revive the economy
to save the military-industrial complex...

554
00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:44,119
Yes, it’s true...

555
00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:47,519
But we had to start with the economy,
of course.

556
00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:49,718
We had large debts.

557
00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:53,759
I remember, the January of 2001
was the most difficult time.

558
00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:57,159
We got together
in the first days of January

559
00:38:57,320 --> 00:39:03,519
and discussed if we were able
to carry on servicing our external debt,

560
00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:05,559
if we were up to it.

561
00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:10,559
The debt was 140% of GDP.
That was the worst-case scenario.

562
00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:15,718
The interest on debt gobbled up
a third of the budget, roughly speaking.

563
00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:20,279
So that was the debt that Putin got
in the situation the country was in

564
00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:22,599
When got the picture, more or less,

565
00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:26,718
that we were entering
a completely new phase

566
00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:31,999
we realised we didn't have
any new mechanisms, this is first,

567
00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:37,839
and second, we unfortunately
didn't have enough people

568
00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:41,718
who could come up with some suggestions
in the situation.

569
00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:46,479
Putin was on very good terms with president
of the World Bank - James Wolfensohn.

570
00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:48,399
We made an agreement with Wolfensohn

571
00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:53,039
that he would bring in
a number of world's leading specialists.

572
00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:57,639
So we would meet with those outstanding
world's leading experts

573
00:39:57,719 --> 00:40:02,319
and Vladimir Vladimirovich
would spend 3-4 hours talking to them.

574
00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:04,718
He asked a lot of questions

575
00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:08,399
He was keen to learn
about other countries' experience,

576
00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:11,359
about possibilities that we had.

577
00:40:13,160 --> 00:40:16,799
The first four years,
we didn't have the majority in Parliament.

578
00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:21,718
We had to work hard with different fractions
to get one or another decision through.

579
00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:30,799
We were making reforms
with massive support from Putin.

580
00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:34,119
It was enough for us to feel
that he was behind us

581
00:40:34,239 --> 00:40:36,959
and we knew that he would support us
if need be.

582
00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:41,479
We adopted a 10-year development programme
for the country.

583
00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:46,519
If we look at the facts,
before Putin, even in the new Russia,

584
00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:50,439
there wasn't anything similar
to this 10-year programme.

585
00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:01,599
I heard a loud bang,
the windows were smashed,

586
00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:05,238
I saw people jumping out of the windows,
they tried to survive.

587
00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:07,799
My God. it was so terrifying.

588
00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:14,199
September 11, 2001.
I remember it as if it were yesterday.

589
00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:17,399
My assistant rushes in
and tells me to turn on the TV quickly.

590
00:41:17,520 --> 00:41:22,959
I turn on the CNN
and see that terrible footage.

591
00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:26,759
President Putin was the first
to call President Bush.

592
00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:30,039
That call was the natural reaction
of the President

593
00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:33,759
who totally understood
what the international terrorism is.

594
00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:40,879
Russia has first-hand knowledge
of terrorism.

595
00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:45,238
That's why we can best of all

596
00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:49,839
understand the feelings
of the American people.

597
00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:54,519
Addressing the people of the USA
on behalf of Russia

598
00:41:54,560 --> 00:41:58,238
I would like to say
that we are together with you.

599
00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:03,639
I call the President and he asks me
What are your first suggestions?

600
00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:06,639
I say, I've got one first suggestion

601
00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:16,399
Our nuclear forces are due to hold drills
on September 12, which was planned earlier.

602
00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:20,079
So what do you suggest he asks.

603
00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:25,479
It's up to you to decide, I say.
But I think we should cancel these drills.

604
00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:29,559
Good, he says. I support your suggestion.

605
00:42:29,719 --> 00:42:34,319
Let's not get on the nerves of Americans.
Why to get on their nerves at such a moment?

606
00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:41,718
there was fighting going on in Chechnya

607
00:42:41,840 --> 00:42:46,919
and the terrorists
who were taking part in it

608
00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:50,919
including foreigners
from many different countries

609
00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:55,439
were referred to by Americans as
freedom fighters" or "insurgents" at best.

610
00:42:56,600 --> 00:43:01,519
Once our special services documented
what were simply direct contacts

611
00:43:01,640 --> 00:43:04,759
between militants from the North Caucasus

612
00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:09,519
and representatives of US special forces

613
00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:11,679
in Azerbaijan.

614
00:43:11,719 --> 00:43:15,919
They helped even with transport.

615
00:43:16,080 --> 00:43:21,559
And when I spoke about that
to the then President of the US,

616
00:43:21,719 --> 00:43:25,959
he said - sorry, I will speak plainly
I'll kick their asses".

617
00:43:26,120 --> 00:43:33,639
But 10 days later,
my subordinates, the FSB heads,

618
00:43:33,719 --> 00:43:37,079
received a letter from their colleagues
in Washington.

619
00:43:37,160 --> 00:43:43,959
We have had and will have relations
with all the opposition forces in Russia.

620
00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:48,119
We consider we have the right to do this
and we will do this in future.

621
00:43:48,200 --> 00:43:53,679
On no account, never and nowhere
must you even try to use terrorists

622
00:43:53,760 --> 00:44:01,238
to solve your transitory political
and even geopolitical tasks.

623
00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:05,559
Because if you support them in one place
they will raise their head in another.

624
00:44:05,719 --> 00:44:09,319
And they will inevitably strike those
who supported them yesterday.

625
00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:11,519
But you did warn the Western partners.

626
00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:14,919
You told them - why are you supporting
terrorists; it will come back to you.

627
00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:18,279
Yes of course.
But some people thought

628
00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:21,799
especially those in special forces
of Western countries

629
00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:28,639
that if someone is working to destabilise
their main geopolitical opponent

630
00:44:28,719 --> 00:44:33,519
which as we realise now
has always been Russia in their minds

631
00:44:33,640 --> 00:44:35,718
then it is generally to their benefit.

632
00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:38,319
It turned out that's not the case

633
00:44:40,960 --> 00:44:44,079
We continue to live
in the old system of values.

634
00:44:44,200 --> 00:44:46,119
we are talking about partnership,

635
00:44:46,239 --> 00:44:50,159
but in reality we have not yet learned
to trust each other.

636
00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:53,039
In spite of a plethora of sweet words,

637
00:44:53,080 --> 00:44:57,238
we are still surreptitiously opposed
to each other.

638
00:44:57,320 --> 00:45:02,959
Today we must say once and for all.
the Cold War is done with!

639
00:45:03,080 --> 00:45:07,999
Today we must say that we renounce
our stereotypes and ambitions

640
00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:10,439
and from now on will jointly work

641
00:45:10,520 --> 00:45:14,599
for the security of the people of Europe
and the world as a whole.

642
00:45:14,680 --> 00:45:18,718
Today decisions are often taken,
without our participation

643
00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:22,479
and we are only urged afterwards
to support such decisions.

644
00:45:22,520 --> 00:45:26,119
After that they talk again
about loyalty to NATO.

645
00:45:26,200 --> 00:45:30,079
They even say that such decisions
cannot be implemented without Russia.

646
00:45:30,160 --> 00:45:36,718
Let us ask ourselves: is this normal?
Is this true partnership?

647
00:46:03,600 --> 00:46:10,718
After 11th September, 2011, the USA began to
assert that their activities in the world...

648
00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:14,839
is explained by the struggle with the international
terrorism.

649
00:46:15,400 --> 00:46:18,479
This was illustrated most brightly by the situation
with Iraq.

650
00:46:21,520 --> 00:46:28,359
Side by side, the Premier Minister and Russian
President look quite natural in Putin's country

651
00:46:28,840 --> 00:46:31,039
Despite the cold weather, the meeting turned warm.

652
00:46:32,440 --> 00:46:35,919
to freeze. - I hope, no.

653
00:46:37,239 --> 00:46:39,119
This is a very beautiful place. Thank you.

654
00:46:39,640 --> 00:46:43,879
The friendliness of the two leaders didn't help to
remove the controversy on Iraq problem.

655
00:46:44,440 --> 00:46:48,439
The President Putin rejected the document of the
Britain government on massive weapon...

656
00:46:48,680 --> 00:46:51,839
which was named "propaganda" by the Russian
foreign minister.

657
00:46:52,400 --> 00:46:57,238
The two leaders agreed on the necessity of check
out the weapon.

658
00:46:58,719 --> 00:47:01,999
Maybe, there is another point of view concerning
the question...

659
00:47:02,520 --> 00:47:07,439
to what extent we may be sure in existence of
massive weapon in Iraq.

660
00:47:08,200 --> 00:47:14,039
There is one reliable way to learn this: to permit
observers to do their job.

661
00:47:14,440 --> 00:47:18,519
The support of Russia, the permanent member of
the UN Security Council,...

662
00:47:18,840 --> 00:47:22,718
of a new important UN resolution on Iraq will be
significant success.

663
00:47:23,040 --> 00:47:25,439
But this advance is very slow.

664
00:47:26,040 --> 00:47:28,879
Russia intends to protect its interests in Iraq.

665
00:47:29,239 --> 00:47:31,919
Diplomats have a lot of work.

666
00:47:33,840 --> 00:47:37,679
Everybody understood the highest responsibility of
the moment...

667
00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:42,479
for Iraq, for the region, and for the international
system as a whole.

668
00:47:50,120 --> 00:47:55,439
The State Secretary of the USA again accused
Baghdad that it still had an arsenal...

669
00:47:55,440 --> 00:47:59,439
of chemical and biological weapons and means of
their delivery.

670
00:48:01,640 --> 00:48:09,319
To emphasize the threat from Iraq, Colin Powell
demonstrated a "real evidence".

671
00:48:10,440 --> 00:48:19,839
One teaspoon of the dry-powder anthrax was
enough to close the US Senate in autumn of 2001.

672
00:48:20,480 --> 00:48:30,839
We've received information from our American
colleagues that Iraq authorities are linked with al

673
00:48:31,320 --> 00:48:37,839
Our American friends have recently announced this
at the UN Security Council.

674
00:48:40,640 --> 00:48:48,238
I've been in politics not so long. Before, I worked in
secret service.

675
00:48:48,800 --> 00:48:51,119
I believed I knew everything from "inside".

676
00:48:52,040 --> 00:48:58,718
When I came to politics, I understood that my
Russian colleagues and I,...

677
00:48:59,040 --> 00:49:05,479
and French, and other colleagues from special
agencies are just children compared with

678
00:49:08,640 --> 00:49:12,519
The route Moscow - Berlin - Paris is considered to
be symbolic.

679
00:49:13,040 --> 00:49:16,718
The three countries still have a consolidated
approach to the solution of the Iraq problem.

680
00:49:19,280 --> 00:49:27,559
Along with France, Germany, and overwhelming
majority of participants of the international

681
00:49:28,080 --> 00:49:32,359
that the Iraq problem may be and should be
resolved diplomatically.

682
00:49:39,160 --> 00:49:47,279
Despite active resistance of the international
community, the USA launched this war.

683
00:49:48,560 --> 00:49:53,679
I was summoned by President Putin.
Bombardments had already begun.

684
00:49:54,280 --> 00:49:59,079
At that time, there were 3,500 of our specialists
there.

685
00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:03,759
They were not allowed to be evacuated.

686
00:50:05,080 --> 00:50:15,959
I addressed insistently to Saddam Hussein
referring to the errand of my President.

687
00:50:17,160 --> 00:50:20,559
Saddam allowed doing that according to a special
time-table

688
00:50:20,880 --> 00:50:25,679
Our specialists were evacuated, nobody suffered.

689
00:50:32,560 --> 00:50:42,279
President Putin had regular meetings with
President Chirac and Chancellor Schroeder.

690
00:50:42,560 --> 00:50:44,759
They discussed global problems.

691
00:50:45,080 --> 00:50:49,479
It was absolutely clear that the configuration of the
world was changing.

692
00:50:49,960 --> 00:51:00,279
If Europe was united and large, it could have its own
opinion, it would only won.

693
00:51:00,880 --> 00:51:11,079
The concept of big Europe from Vladivostok to
Lisbon was aimed at serious interaction.

694
00:51:11,360 --> 00:51:13,959
This responded to requirements of the XXI century.

695
00:51:14,360 --> 00:51:18,679
Unfortunately, this mechanism was not brought into

696
00:51:18,680 --> 00:51:26,479
after the retirement of President Chirac and
Chancellor Schroeder.

697
00:51:27,080 --> 00:51:29,119
It seemed to have been very promising.

698
00:51:39,960 --> 00:51:43,159
I have not met such hard-working people.

699
00:51:45,360 --> 00:51:51,599
He goes to bed very late and may ring up early in
the morning. When does he sleep?

700
00:51:52,960 --> 00:52:01,079
He can focus on one subject and, after a short time,
on another.

701
00:52:05,880 --> 00:52:11,279
He has an important property, the ability to listen.

702
00:52:12,760 --> 00:52:18,479
He listens to everybody, he provides possibility for
everyone to speak out, sometimes more than

703
00:52:20,360 --> 00:52:24,718
Due to this, conferences can test for many hours,
breaking a schedule very often.

704
00:52:25,760 --> 00:52:33,959
He is often late. This problem actually exists, also
for journalists who write about Putin.

705
00:52:34,280 --> 00:52:36,159
We have gone through much In this sense.

706
00:52:38,960 --> 00:52:44,159
I was a witness a couple of times why these delays
happen.

707
00:52:44,560 --> 00:52:54,759
For example, I asked an additional question at a
meeting with journalists, already when leaving.

708
00:52:55,080 --> 00:52:57,159
He says: "And you, Andrei, stay here."

709
00:52:57,880 --> 00:53:02,279
And I understood at once what happens with him in
real life.

710
00:53:03,160 --> 00:53:06,799
He has infinite calls.

711
00:53:07,160 --> 00:53:13,599
I saw how he was diverted from the conversation
with me.

712
00:53:14,320 --> 00:53:17,519
The Minister of Finances, Alexei Kudrin, rang up.

713
00:53:18,000 --> 00:53:22,079
And there was an intensive conversation with him for
about 20 minutes.

714
00:53:22,480 --> 00:53:25,238
He surely had to be late somewhere else due to

715
00:53:25,600 --> 00:53:32,238
Kudrin believed that it was necessary to give 11
billion dollars to the Paris Club.

716
00:53:32,680 --> 00:53:38,479
This was a difficult and a sort of historical solution.

717
00:53:38,760 --> 00:53:40,999
I asked: "What have you decided?" - "Maybe, we'll
give."

718
00:53:44,560 --> 00:53:48,399
About a week later the news said.

719
00:53:49,280 --> 00:53:51,479
Russia returns debts to Paris Club."

720
00:53:53,200 --> 00:54:04,879
Putin's position was that debts of Russia had to
be as small as possible.

721
00:54:05,800 --> 00:54:11,279
He believed it was necessary to reduce dependency
of Russia on IMF.

722
00:54:11,800 --> 00:54:15,479
He understood that Russia had to be an
independent country.

723
00:54:16,280 --> 00:54:20,279
It would be difficult to o and be in a critical

situation.

724
00:54:25,880 --> 00:54:31,279
We were absolutely import-dependent country until
1998.

725
00:54:31,880 --> 00:54:39,799
I remember how 2,000 people In Krasnoufimsk
stood and yelled: "Give us insulin!"

726
00:54:40,600 --> 00:54:42,679
I think, it was necessary for someone.

727
00:54:43,600 --> 00:54:48,999
The new president gave me a hope and a message.

728
00:54:49,280 --> 00:54:54,119
it's time to stop buying-selling and to take up
production.

729
00:54:54,400 --> 00:55:02,919
We decided: let's build a pharmaceutical European
standard plant.

730
00:55:03,200 --> 00:55:05,479
Our goal was to achieve a very high level.

731
00:55:06,880 --> 00:55:16,599
It was a direct interference of Vladimir Vladimirovich
in a foreign lobby against its pressure.

732
00:55:16,880 --> 00:55:21,079
Everybody told me: "Five teams have failed! What
do you want to do?"

733
00:55:21,680 --> 00:55:28,799
I'm an ordinary man; Putin just helped me to
implement my idea.

734
00:55:31,040 --> 00:55:35,879
We created 300 working places for young jobless
girls.

735
00:55:36,400 --> 00:55:42,079
We understood that along with economical
problems, we resolved a greater problem.

736
00:55:42,840 --> 00:55:47,919
Today, we have insulin much enough to assure the
drug safety of Russia.

737
00:55:48,600 --> 00:55:52,399
There are supplies to other countries and supplies
to the EC are under preparation.

738
00:55:52,800 --> 00:55:53,879
It is a victory, isn't it?

739
00:55:54,400 --> 00:55:58,199
What moments do you have in memory as the
most tragic and difficult?

740
00:55:58,880 --> 00:56:01,679
Of course, these were the terrible terrorist acts.

741
00:56:01,680 --> 00:56:06,439
The terror attacks on the school in Beslan
on the Dubrovka Theatre in Moscow.

742
00:56:06,520 --> 00:56:11,839
Those were perhaps the most tragic moments

743
00:56:11,960 --> 00:56:15,999
which all our people had to go through.

744
00:56:20,719 --> 00:56:23,959
Do you remember the Nord-Ost?
That was not an ordinary terror attack.

745
00:56:24,080 --> 00:56:30,199
The seizure of the building
the seizure of hostages.

746
00:56:31,640 --> 00:56:35,879
I kept Putin informed on a non-stop basis,
day and night.

747
00:56:36,000 --> 00:56:39,959
At that time he didn’t leave his workplace.

748
00:56:43,360 --> 00:56:48,079
A lot of people thought that the main task
was to destroy the terrorists.

749
00:56:48,160 --> 00:56:51,319
No, the main task was to save the people.

750
00:56:51,400 --> 00:56:53,559
It was night already.

751
00:56:53,680 --> 00:56:57,679
I was cut off from my security guards
and let in there.

752
00:56:57,800 --> 00:57:03,159
I met the leader of those terrorists
ovsar arayev.

753
00:57:03,280 --> 00:57:09,359
He was without a mask,
but there were masked gunmen around.

754
00:57:09,480 --> 00:57:13,279
I tell him, let the women and children go

755
00:57:13,360 --> 00:57:18,159
Nowhere in the Koran does it say
that you can fight with women and children.

756
00:57:20,600 --> 00:57:28,439
And he replies, if there is no order
to pull the troops out of Chechnya

757
00:57:28,480 --> 00:57:31,359
he meant the Russian troops

758
00:57:31,440 --> 00:57:35,079
from 10 o'clock in the morning

759
00:57:35,240 --> 00:57:38,239
every half an hour,

760
00:57:38,320 --> 00:57:41,279
I will shoot one person.

761
00:57:48,960 --> 00:57:53,839
after that I went to Vladimir Vladimirovich.

762
00:57:53,880 --> 00:57:59,199
Of course he was worried
and you could see his jaw muscles move.

763
00:57:59,320 --> 00:58:01,679
Of course...

764
00:58:01,800 --> 00:58:07,879
He didn't tell me
that there would be a raid at 4 o'clock.

765
00:58:13,320 --> 00:58:17,319
Careful! Don't touch the wires

766
00:58:22,440 --> 00:58:23,999
It was a severe test.

767
00:58:27,840 --> 00:58:31,479
He's had too many of them
during his time in office.

768
00:58:31,600 --> 00:58:37,279
No President in no country
have met with so many adversities.

769
00:58:37,440 --> 00:58:39,239
Not a one

770
00:58:42,040 --> 00:58:45,799
And every of them, naturally,

771
00:58:45,920 --> 00:58:51,039
is a heavy burden on his shoulders,
on his mind, on his heart.

772
00:58:58,360 --> 00:59:01,919
It was the most terrible day for me.

773
00:59:02,040 --> 00:59:05,239
I couldn't imagine myself
without Akhmad Kadyrov.

774
00:59:10,280 --> 00:59:15,839
After Akhmad-Khaji died,
he invited me to his office.

775
00:59:15,880 --> 00:59:22,719
The President of Chechnya
Akhmad-Khaji Kadyrov

776
00:59:22,800 --> 00:59:28,679
served his people with dignity and courage.

777
00:59:28,760 --> 00:59:33,199
Throughout all these years, he covered
Chechnya and the Chechens with his own body

778
00:59:33,280 --> 00:59:36,879
and he firmly led his republic
to peaceful life.

779
00:59:37,000 --> 00:59:40,839
Akhmad-Khaji Kadyrov departed this life
on the 9th of May,

780
00:59:40,920 --> 00:59:46,239
on the day when all our nation
celebrate Victory Day.

781
00:59:46,360 --> 00:59:50,399
And he left undefeated.

782
00:59:53,080 --> 00:59:57,479
In the first Chechen campaign, I fought
against the federal centre, it's no secret.

783
00:59:57,560 --> 01:00:01,399
We remember how we took Grozny.

784
01:00:01,480 --> 01:00:03,759
Then we left Grozny.

785
01:00:03,880 --> 01:00:06,719
We remember what was the position
of the federal centre.

786
01:00:06,800 --> 01:00:10,439
That's why there was mistrust
towards the federal centre.

787
01:00:10,520 --> 01:00:15,879
And the majority of young people
went to the woods to the mountains...

788
01:00:19,960 --> 01:00:22,559
I was 17 I was young.

789
01:00:22,680 --> 01:00:27,199
Everyone was called to war.
So I went too.

790
01:00:27,280 --> 01:00:28,919
There were different people there

791
01:00:29,800 --> 01:00:33,479
Arabs, people from Jordan,
from Africa too.

792
01:00:33,600 --> 01:00:36,559
Well, mercenaries.
They came to fight for money.

793
01:00:36,640 --> 01:00:38,879
We were not paid.

794
01:00:38,920 --> 01:00:43,079
We thought we were fighting
for our people for freedom.

795
01:00:43,640 --> 01:00:47,359
In 1999 the second campaign began.

796
01:00:47,480 --> 01:00:49,879
The federals had me on their wanted list.

797
01:00:50,040 --> 01:00:54,079
So I couldn't stay at home
I went to the woods again.

798
01:00:54,200 --> 01:00:56,799
There were guys
who had been granted an amnesty.

799
01:00:56,920 --> 01:01:00,159
As soon as Akhmad-Khaji died
the gossip was spread

800
01:01:00,240 --> 01:01:02,399
that they would be persecuted.

801
01:01:02,480 --> 01:01:05,799
There was panic in the republic.

802
01:01:05,920 --> 01:01:11,559
When I was on a visit in Moscow,
I went to President.

803
01:01:11,680 --> 01:01:14,079
I told him about our situation

804
01:01:14,160 --> 01:01:17,559
and said that we need an opportunity
to legalize them somehow.

805
01:01:17,640 --> 01:01:21,079
They were ready to fight for Russia
for our people.

806
01:01:21,200 --> 01:01:25,719
I remember how difficult it was
to make that decision.

807
01:01:25,840 --> 01:01:32,879
In the end, we granted an amnesty
to over 7 000 people.

808
01:01:33,000 --> 01:01:37,559
President Putin, we are with you
and with the people.

809
01:01:47,120 --> 01:01:52,759
That way not 7 000
but 70 000 lives were saved.

810
01:01:54,480 --> 01:01:59,679
The Chechen Republic of today
is a peaceful and flourishing land.

811
01:01:59,760 --> 01:02:03,479
The people live differently,
they see life differently.

812
01:02:05,600 --> 01:02:09,799
I'd like to say something
which might be a bit unexpected

813
01:02:09,920 --> 01:02:14,999
The Orthodox Christians, Muslims,
Jews, Buddhists

814
01:02:15,080 --> 01:02:18,959
people belonging to traditional religions,

815
01:02:19,080 --> 01:02:23,799
that is to those religions that have always
existed on the territory of Russia

816
01:02:23,920 --> 01:02:27,279
they all belong to one civilization.

817
01:02:27,320 --> 01:02:29,479
One distinctive feature of this civilization

818
01:02:29,560 --> 01:02:34,119
is the ability to see people
of a different religious tradition

819
01:02:34,160 --> 01:02:35,879
as one of theirs.

820
01:02:35,960 --> 01:02:41,799
And the President - an orthodox Christian
who goes to Orthodox church

821
01:02:41,920 --> 01:02:49,119
treats people of other religions
as his brothers.

822
01:02:52,040 --> 01:02:54,079
He wishes them happy holidays.

823
01:02:54,200 --> 01:03:00,079
He gives them cooperation and support
for the issues they raise.

824
01:03:03,960 --> 01:03:09,319
When Kazan turned 1000 years
we gathered in the theatre to celebrate it.

825
01:03:09,360 --> 01:03:14,439
Vladimir Vladimirovich went on stage
to congratulate us.

826
01:03:14,880 --> 01:03:16,839
Suddenly he started speaking in Tatar.

827
01:03:21,320 --> 01:03:26,159
If you'd heard the roar of applause he got!

828
01:03:26,280 --> 01:03:29,839
People were smiling.

829
01:03:30,040 --> 01:03:33,479
They just didn't let him
continue his speech.

830
01:03:33,520 --> 01:03:36,639
But he came up with a quick answer

831
01:03:36,720 --> 01:03:39,039
He said, hold on it's not all yet.

832
01:03:41,520 --> 01:03:43,879
This is not all I can.

833
01:03:44,520 --> 01:03:50,319
And he went on speaking in Tatar
and people applauded even louder.

834
01:03:50,440 --> 01:03:52,239
For those...

835
01:03:54,320 --> 01:03:57,999
For those who are only beginning
to learn the Tatar language

836
01:03:58,120 --> 01:04:01,479
and haven't understood everything I said,

837
01:04:01,600 --> 01:04:06,599
I'd like to point out one thing

838
01:04:06,640 --> 01:04:11,439
Kazan has really played
a unique historic role

839
01:04:11,520 --> 01:04:14,399
in building a united nation of Russia

840
01:04:14,440 --> 01:04:19,199
in creating a united and solid people
of Russia.

841
01:04:19,320 --> 01:04:23,719
The ability to find understanding

842
01:04:23,880 --> 01:04:25,959
a common language with the public,

843
01:04:26,080 --> 01:04:33,119
for a leader of any rank
and especially for a leader of a country,

844
01:04:33,240 --> 01:04:38,279
I must say, this is a gift,
it is not simple at all.

845
01:04:38,400 --> 01:04:41,439
I don't think we can talk
about one particular achievement.

846
01:04:41,520 --> 01:04:45,159
He's achieved the most important thing.


847
01:04:45,720 --> 01:04:48,719
He came and started running the country...

848
01:04:48,880 --> 01:04:55,839
I remember the regions
which may not be leaders but live well now,

849
01:04:55,920 --> 01:05:01,679
for example, Kursk, Tambovsk Regions,
Voronezh Region...

850
01:05:01,760 --> 01:05:03,799
They used to be on the brink of ruin.

851
01:05:03,920 --> 01:05:09,519
In the 2000s, wherever you went,
to whatever regional capital...

852
01:05:09,680 --> 01:05:15,319
There was darkness... Egyptian,
puddles, mud, smashed roads...

853
01:05:15,400 --> 01:05:17,359
And look how things are today.

854
01:05:17,480 --> 01:05:21,159
People live in the country
and earn good money, very good money.

855
01:05:21,280 --> 01:05:23,479
They can provide for themselves.

856
01:05:23,560 --> 01:05:26,279
Besides they provide for Moscow
and half of the country

857
01:05:26,280 --> 01:05:28,439
at least half of the country.

858
01:05:28,520 --> 01:05:33,839
After the institute I wanted to try myself,
to work in my profession exactly.

859
01:05:33,880 --> 01:05:35,959
When I saw everything here
for the first time

860
01:05:36,080 --> 01:05:38,639
I was both amazed and excited.

861
01:05:38,680 --> 01:05:41,119
We love all these cows very much.

862
01:05:41,160 --> 01:05:45,399
In these conditions, they ought
to live long and happily and to give us milk.

863
01:05:45,920 --> 01:05:47,639
I came here two years ago.

864
01:05:47,720 --> 01:05:51,159
I've got a flat,
a regular job and a regular income.

865
01:05:51,240 --> 01:05:55,279
If everyone does the job
they like and can do,

866
01:05:55,360 --> 01:05:59,799
the country as a whole will grow
it all depends on us.

867
01:06:01,160 --> 01:06:04,559
This is very important.
This is the food security of the state.

868
01:06:06,560 --> 01:06:08,479
We are surrounded by countries
with developed economies.

869
01:06:09,400 --> 01:06:15,159
We must frankly tell: they press us out from the
perspective markets where it is possible.

870
01:06:15,440 --> 01:06:20,879
Their visible economical advantages give a reason
for a rise of geopolitical ambitions.

871
01:06:21,040 --> 01:06:27,039
All our decisions, all our deeds must become
subject of the idea that in the nearest future

872
01:06:27,520 --> 01:06:35,919
Russia would secure a place among really strong,
economically advanced and influential countries of

873
01:06:36,440 --> 01:06:42,519
In a decade we must at least double GDP.

874
01:06:43,320 --> 01:06:45,559
Many people doubted that it was possible

875
01:06:46,360 --> 01:06:53,439
Somebody even laughed at it, said: Well, it is not
difficult to double it from zero.

876
01:06:58,320 --> 01:07:04,639
First of all, we set a clear and understandable
system of taxes for minerals extraction.

877
01:07:05,280 --> 01:07:07,799
The state started to receive income from gas and

878
01:07:08,160 --> 01:07:14,679
And before this it was not significantly less, it was
not clear, extremely not clear, not fair.

879
01:07:15,360 --> 01:07:19,679
In 2003 a problem with Yukos appears.

880
01:07:20,360 --> 01:07:23,599
As for Khodorkovskiy, he was our colleague.

881
01:07:23,720 --> 01:07:31,039
How did it happen that such story took place is now
hard to explain

882
01:07:32,000 --> 01:07:35,959
And frankly speaking, besides a purely humane
commiseration for Khodorkovskiy

883
01:07:35,960 --> 01:07:41,919
who 10 years, maybe best 10 years of his life spent
where he spent (prison)...

884
01:07:42,320 --> 01:07:45,319
It is like in a family when children are explained that
something is forbidden

885
01:07:45,320 --> 01:07:49,239
they start to check whether it is really forbidden or
is allowed a little.

886
01:07:50,280 --> 01:07:56,519
It was not only Yukos who went the way of
reducing taxes, tax avoidance.

887
01:07:57,080 --> 01:07:59,719
Other companies also. Yukos more.

888
01:08:00,120 --> 01:08:05,199
And after tax police finished investigating Yukos
case,

889
01:08:05,200 --> 01:08:09,239
many companies also paid significant money to the
budget

890
01:08:09,280 --> 01:08:13,239
as a result of extra charges after court decisions.


891
01:08:18,640 --> 01:08:21,919
All your friends say that the main problem with
Putin

892
01:08:21,920 --> 01:08:24,799
is that he finished faculty of Law and likes it very
much.

893
01:08:25,040 --> 01:08:26,999
He always acts within the boundaries of the law.

894
01:08:27,120 --> 01:08:30,238
It is impossible to make Putin breach the law.

895
01:08:30,720 --> 01:08:36,078
It is right. I had very good teachers, very good, I'm
very thankful to them.

896
01:08:36,600 --> 01:08:43,799
They hammered some principles, some
fundamental things into our heads,

897
01:08:45,520 --> 01:08:51,038
which I consider not only correct from book's point
of view, but correct and necessary by life.

898
01:08:52,319 --> 01:08:53,759
I don't remember if I told already or not.

899
01:08:54,000 --> 01:08:58,719
When I came to work in Leningrad department of
KGB, and we planned some...

900
01:08:58,720 --> 01:09:01,038
I don't remember a small operation

901
01:09:01,359 --> 01:09:08,359
and one of our veterans proposed to do something.

902
01:09:09,479 --> 01:09:14,959
And he said that we needed to do this and this.
There were quite many people there.

903
01:09:15,120 --> 01:09:17,559
I told him: "Listen, I think it is illegal."

904
01:09:18,319 --> 01:09:20,478
Next is an interesting thing.

905
01:09:21,000 --> 01:09:24,519
He looked at me with a surprise and said: "What?

906
01:09:24,560 --> 01:09:29,118
We have a certain instruction and said the number
of this instruction of KGB USSR."

907
01:09:29,560 --> 01:09:31,599
I said: "If it exists, then it must be cancelled,

908
01:09:31,600 --> 01:09:36,799
because it contradicts to this law, that law,
contradicts the Constitution."

909
01:09:37,399 --> 01:09:44,198
This is not a joke, I didn't make it up. It was in
reality. I was young, I just came from the university.

910
01:09:45,840 --> 01:09:51,118
They just laughed at me, thank, God, it was already
1976,

911
01:09:51,120 --> 01:10:00,959
it was far from the time of repressions there were
completely different times.

912
01:10:05,600 --> 01:10:10,159
This place is called Russian Calvary - Butovskiy
training area, area of death.

913
01:10:10,360 --> 01:10:13,759
Here the authorities killed its own people without
charge or trial.

914
01:10:14,800 --> 01:10:19,679
The brotherhood grave with length of more than 1
km, dead bodies are set in several layers.

915
01:10:20,240 --> 01:10:24,399
Most of the killed are simple people, arrested for
being late for the work,

916
01:10:24,400 --> 01:10:30,079
accident damage of factory equipment or non
execution of the workday norm.

917
01:10:31,520 --> 01:10:33,719
I was shocked by the story of Butovskiy training
area.

918
01:10:34,040 --> 01:10:42,478
I went the whole way together with him
and understood what was going on with him.

919
01:10:43,640 --> 01:10:48,279
And I could hear him saying: "God, what did they


920
01:10:50,280 --> 01:10:57,079
Honestly speaking, I haven’t written till the present
moment about all what he said then.

921
01:10:57,360 --> 01:11:02,039
Because at a certain moment it seemed to me that
it was a too personal of a story.

922
01:11:02,160 --> 01:11:06,478
He saw the lists of the killed, the gravestone, and
the most important,

923
01:11:06,479 --> 01:11:16,919
he walked on this ground in which these people lied,
where they were shot down.

924
01:11:17,600 --> 01:11:22,119
At this moment it seemed to me that the ground
was burning under his feet.

925
01:11:22,120 --> 01:11:24,839
And this was not an exaggeration.

926
01:11:32,360 --> 01:11:37,519
President Putin, after meeting him, after talking
with him, I realized,

927
01:11:37,520 --> 01:11:42,719
that he may look like extremely cold cool-headed
and cold-blooded.

928
01:11:43,000 --> 01:11:44,879
And he behaves correspondingly.

929
01:11:45,360 --> 01:11:49,478
But I thought that inside of him, in his heart there is
a warm blood

930
01:12:01,560 --> 01:12:05,559
A person who doesn't like to live skilfully, handily.

931
01:12:27,680 --> 01:12:37,519
So, such a person, that if he will need to make
some actions for getting some profit, money, some

932
01:12:37,760 --> 01:12:44,199
and these actions are not acceptable for him, he will
never make such actions.

933
01:12:45,560 --> 01:12:48,199
He had such a great teacher as Rakhlin.

934
01:12:52,040 --> 01:12:53,399
And when he taught judo to the President, he didn't
in a ou e uca ion o a rest en .

935
01:12:53,720 --> 01:12:56,839
He wanted to make one more man by means of
judo.

936
01:12:57,080 --> 01:13:00,199
A person who firmly stands on his feet.

937
01:13:03,720 --> 01:13:05,839
I always say, you know: there are two origins in
every person

938
01:13:06,040 --> 01:13:14,559
There is a personal energy, a personal origin,
emotional, intellectual, and so on.

939
01:13:14,840 --> 01:13:19,438
And there is an energy of the place energy of the
chair.

940
01:13:20,360 --> 01:13:26,999
And they always collide. If the energy of the chair is
stronger, the person is significantly distorted.

941
01:13:27,600 --> 01:13:35,399
If the human origin is stronger than the energy of the
chair energy of money


942
01:13:35,400 --> 01:13:37,519
the person remains the same.

943
01:13:37,720 --> 01:13:49,438
Putin has such powerful human energy that it
overcomes stages of his career,

944
01:13:50,400 --> 01:13:52,799
He invited us to Zavidovo. I remember it was
August.

945
01:13:53,240 --> 01:13:58,999
We sat down in a small pavilion several people, and
he presented the idea of national projects.

946
01:13:59,720 --> 01:14:05,039
National projects concerning the project of
education, medicine,

947
01:14:05,040 --> 01:14:07,959
agriculture and housing projects.

948
01:14:10,479 --> 01:14:15,478
When perinatal centers started to work in Russia
the perinatal center in Yaroslavl,

949
01:14:17,600 --> 01:14:19,239
we felt it. Birthrate has increased significantly here.

950
01:14:22,360 --> 01:14:25,119
Andrey and Aleksandr. This is the second delivery

951
01:14:25,360 --> 01:14:26,879
The elder is a girl, 3 years.

952
01:14:27,560 --> 01:14:30,039
He smiles, look, take photo.

953
01:14:31,760 --> 01:14:35,199
Every year the number of births in the perinatal
center increases.

954
01:14:35,560 --> 01:14:40,279
And this year this number was 500 more than last
year.

955
01:14:43,040 --> 01:14:46,559
Take the matter of mother capital.

956
01:14:47,360 --> 01:14:54,879
This is not just a propaganda of family values,
not just a propaganda that a big family is good.

957
01:14:55,560 --> 01:15:01,599
This is real state policy directed to support the birth
of children.

958
01:15:02,080 --> 01:15:06,559
This is a world view approach, and this is the most
important.

959
01:15:07,240 --> 01:15:11,559
You know, presidents must solve many-sided
tasks.

960
01:15:12,000 --> 01:15:16,559
And economy, and politics, and medicine, and
education

961
01:15:16,560 --> 01:15:21,759
and infrastructure, and oil, and gas, whatever,
international relations.

962
01:15:22,360 --> 01:15:26,359
But no one teaches you to be like this, you become

963
01:15:26,640 --> 01:15:31,599
He has an exceptional capability to grasp the
subject

964
01:15:32,880 --> 01:15:38,119
Himself... he has such an expression: ''I will get
inside it, and then we will talk."

965
01:15:41,360 --> 01:15:44,359
He wants to master something new all the time,
and he masters it.

966
01:15:44,800 --> 01:15:49,999
Invisibly for everybody, he mastered English - bang!
and Putin speaks English

967
01:15:57,360 --> 01:16:01,119
Don't forget that he doesn't have neither days-off
nor vacations.

968
01:16:02,800 --> 01:16:10,399
He does it from 1 till 2 at night, or from 7 till 8 in the
morning. He doesn't have another option.

969
01:16:10,920 --> 01:16:12,199
And he does it anyway.

970
01:16:13,240 --> 01:16:15,119
He had never skated.

971
01:16:17,200 --> 01:16:18,319
Now he plays hockey.

972
01:16:22,720 --> 01:16:27,399
He doesn't speak loud, doesn't yell at anyone. And
thus hides his inner character.

973
01:16:27,760 --> 01:16:34,039
In the beginning skiing for Putin was an intensive
practice

974
01:16:34,280 --> 01:16:38,359
That's why when you see him on a mountain, for
hours uphill and downhill...

975
01:16:38,760 --> 01:16:39,159
He comes for 2.5-3 hours,

976
01:16:42,080 --> 01:16:49,359
and during this period neither a cup of tea nor break
for talking, just uphill and downhill.

977
01:16:50,280 --> 01:16:54,599
I don't know where and how he learnt to play
piano.

978
01:16:55,600 --> 01:16:58,559
I know only that he did it consistently.

979
01:17:00,600 --> 01:17:09,159
In the beginning, we witnessed how he started to
play with one finger, one hand.

980
01:17:13,280 --> 01:17:19,039
Then, in several days the second hand was added.

981
01:18:12,680 --> 01:18:15,319
He is in fact from a usual working family.

982
01:18:16,960 --> 01:18:18,959
The same way like millions of others.

983
01:18:19,680 --> 01:18:22,919
Millions of his compatriots, like me, like you.

984
01:18:23,320 --> 01:18:26,559
- Vladimir Vladimirovych, I need your help. - I listen
to you. - My son is under arrest.

985
01:18:28,040 --> 01:18:29,759
please, help, take care of it.

986
01:18:30,400 --> 01:18:32,959
He was brought up in a multifamily flat.

987
01:18:34,160 --> 01:18:37,199
And indeed this influence was serious.

988
01:18:37,360 --> 01:18:41,919
a crack, water was flooding in in winter.

989
01:18:43,680 --> 01:18:51,879
Look, in principle, no matter how paradoxically it
is, 80% of people can hear him and understand

990
01:18:51,920 --> 01:18:55,919
than 20 % of officials and the intellectuals.

991
01:18:58,120 --> 01:19:04,039
It seems to me, he feels his role, first of all, as a
defender of simple people.

992
01:19:04,240 --> 01:19:08,679
People pass him some notes all the time, some
pieces of paper,

993
01:19:08,720 --> 01:19:11,478
something is written by pencils with uneven
handwriting.

994
01:19:13,560 --> 01:19:19,639
He take it by himself, or when he has full hands, he
passes to someone of assistants.

995
01:19:22,760 --> 01:19:28,079
And the most awful for assistants is when in two
hours he asks: Where are these pieces of papers?

996
01:19:28,880 --> 01:19:34,319
I say: Which? He says: An old woman gave me, we
stopped in the street.

997
01:19:34,680 --> 01:19:41,559
The telephone rings, he says: During some trip, an
old woman approached me...

998
01:19:41,760 --> 01:19:43,799
a certain family applied to me.

999
01:19:44,439 --> 01:19:46,199
In my trip there was a corresponding manager,

1000
01:19:50,479 --> 01:19:56,359
he has all original information how to find this
person, call him and solve the question.

1001
01:19:57,360 --> 01:20:02,519
The winter started. - Yes. Welcome. - Thanks.

1002
01:20:02,760 --> 01:20:09,879
We decided to look, with Yevgeniy Stepanovych,
how your medicine, culture works...

1003
01:20:10,360 --> 01:20:12,359
You are interested in what people tell you.

1004
01:20:12,760 --> 01:20:16,199
You look at people with whom you talk and want
to listen.

1005
01:20:16,400 --> 01:20:21,799
Why? Because you want to find another source of
information? A tuning fork?

1006
01:20:22,680 --> 01:20:30,599
No. In general I don't try to find some extra
sources, tuning forks...

1007
01:20:31,400 --> 01:20:33,199
I don't need to search for it, I have it all.

1008
01:20:33,760 --> 01:20:36,759
I don’t even know why. It is even hard for me to tell,
you understand?

1009
01:20:37,040 --> 01:20:42,399
I say that not to make myself look good I just feel
myself as a part.

1010
01:20:43,080 --> 01:20:48,319
A part of our country, our people. Certainly
it is important for me, when we meet with people...

1011
01:20:49,520 --> 01:20:54,799
These signals come to me immediately, when I feel
that people are not satisfied with something,

1012
01:20:54,800 --> 01:20:57,159
anxious about something, worried about something.

1013
01:20:57,880 --> 01:21:02,959
Certainly, such feedback is necessary, but it can be
like hitting a wall.

1014
01:21:03,479 --> 01:21:13,759
But can reach.. Thank God, this feeling is not lost
yet, and I manage to feel it at once.

1015
01:21:14,040 --> 01:21:25,159
It is precisely that... I have never been in so called
elites. This is really good indeed because...

1016
01:21:26,200 --> 01:21:30,919
when people live in another stratum... are born
there,

1017
01:21:30,920 --> 01:21:35,559
it is also not bad thank God, there are own big
advantages there too.

1018
01:21:35,960 --> 01:21:42,199
when people are born, live, brought up in a certain
elite society, there are also advantages.

1019
01:21:43,320 --> 01:21:46,039
But I have been watching for a long time...

1020
01:21:47,800 --> 01:21:53,679
I highly respect such people, and envy a little,
because initially,

1021
01:21:53,720 --> 01:21:59,559
from first steps of life they manage to absorb many
important useful things,

1022
01:22:00,280 --> 01:22:06,359
which help to achieve big results in various fields.

1023
01:22:06,600 --> 01:22:11,759
But for the person who deals with work which I do
now and the previous years,

1024
01:22:12,000 --> 01:22:23,719
this link and feeling of fellowship with people,
usual people are highly important and helps in work.

1025
01:22:24,640 --> 01:22:27,959
My mother told me: Be afraid of those for whom
the power is a dream.

1026
01:22:29,000 --> 01:22:31,159
Go to those for whom the power is a cross.

1027
01:22:32,080 --> 01:22:36,599
I came to Vladimir Vladimirovych and said: Vladimir
Vladimirovych, we must rebury lllyin.

1028
01:22:37,000 --> 01:22:42,759
Illyin is a genius Russian philosopher, this is a
person who

1029
01:22:43,600 --> 01:22:51,719
all his life tried to explain himself and others and
to understand what is going on, why it takes place

1030
01:22:52,880 --> 01:22:55,959
Illyin died abroad, in Switzerland.

1031
01:22:56,000 --> 01:23:01,759
In short, the lease of the land for IIlyin's grave came
to the end.

1032
01:23:02,760 --> 01:23:10,039
And according to Swiss laws another person could
be buried there if this grave is not looked after,

1033
01:23:10,040 --> 01:23:13,759
if there are no relatives.

1034
01:23:14,360 --> 01:23:21,199
And then Vladimir Vladimirovych heard that and
took closely to his heart and personally.

1035
01:23:21,840 --> 01:23:29,399
And the decision was made to rebury Illyin on the
cemetary of Donskoy Monastery.

1036
01:23:31,160 --> 01:23:42,159
Brothers and sisters! Today we are participants of
a historical even

1037
01:23:44,720 --> 01:23:53,159
Co-memorable sons of Russia come back to the
native land.

1038
01:23:53,840 --> 01:24:06,799
general Anton Ivanovych Denikin and philosopher
Ivan Aleksandrovych lllyin together with their wives.

1039
01:24:07,960 --> 01:24:16,239
This is not just a physical transfer of remains of
two great persons to our land.

1040
01:24:17,160 --> 01:24:21,519
I hope this is the beginning of the end of the dreadful
civil war.

1041
01:24:22,360 --> 01:24:29,879
Reburial of lllyin, reburial of Denikin, and before that
reburial of Shmelyov, our brilliant author,

1042
01:24:30,560 --> 01:24:42,438
these all are fragments directed at consolidation, at
stopping of the civil war in heads.

1043
01:24:42,760 --> 01:24:46,759
The motion to gather that spiritual strength

1044
01:24:47,360 --> 01:24:52,879
earned by these great Russian people throughout all
their lives

1045
01:24:52,880 --> 01:24:58,239
devoted to thoughts and deeds concerned with
Russia.

1046
01:25:00,560 --> 01:25:06,438
If you see the scale of a country and try to make
this atmosphere common,

1047
01:25:06,880 --> 01:25:12,159
only In this case 80% can tell you: Yes, we are
together with you.

1048
01:25:12,400 --> 01:25:17,039
At the same time, people who not just live, live not
well,

1049
01:25:17,040 --> 01:25:24,079
who have problems, who have big claims to local
authorities and to supreme power

1050
01:25:24,479 --> 01:25:31,399
but when they understand that there is a person
above them for whom the power is a cross and he

1051
01:25:32,160 --> 01:25:39,399
and he consolidates the society, and only national
interests become his personal interests

1052
01:25:40,040 --> 01:25:45,159
when he bears responsibility for everyone, including
the whole country,

1053
01:25:45,640 --> 01:25:51,159
only in this case people who not just live, can say.
Yes, we are together with you, we will be patient.

1054
01:25:53,160 --> 01:26:00,559
At that moment young Russia had no large-scale
projects and large-scale victories,

1055
01:26:01,600 --> 01:26:05,799
which would allow to show the whole world that

1056
01:26:06,160 --> 01:26:10,279
we are not a shatter of a great empire, but we are
an independent,

1057
01:26:10,280 --> 01:26:15,438
big, serious state with our own achievements,

ambitions.

1058
01:26:16,000 --> 01:26:19,559
And in 2005 the application for winter Olympic
games was made.

1059
01:26:20,360 --> 01:26:23,599
Frankly speaking, I'm a sinner.

1060
01:26:23,600 --> 01:26:28,438
I didn't believe that we would be given the right to
organize winter Olympic games.

1061
01:26:28,560 --> 01:26:32,679
On the eve of a session of International Olympic
committee in Guatemala,

1062
01:26:32,720 --> 01:26:38,799
where the question was whether Putin should go to
Guatemala or not,

1063
01:26:39,000 --> 01:26:41,999
what if we suddenly lose, I told him: "Vladimir
Vladimirovych,

1064
01:26:42,000 --> 01:26:45,599
if you don't go, I guarantee that we will lose.

1065
01:26:46,360 --> 01:26:50,279
But if you do go, then there is a risk that we will
lose anyway."

1066
01:26:50,479 --> 01:26:52,879
But without you going we stand no chance.

1067
01:26:55,160 --> 01:27:03,199
When Vladimir Vladimirovych arrived to
Guatemala within 2 days

1068
01:27:03,240 --> 01:27:09,279
there were 30-40 meetings with key members of the
International Olympic committee.

1069
01:27:09,479 --> 01:27:11,478
It lasted non-stop day and night.

1070
01:27:11,880 --> 01:27:13,679
And there was a rehearsal at which he arrived.

1071
01:27:13,840 --> 01:27:18,879
And we rehearsed the entrance, he participated in it
ry disciplinarily.

1072
01:27:19,040 --> 01:27:22,399
But for us the most important thing was to
determine the chronometry.

1073
01:27:22,560 --> 01:27:27,199
And he took out his precious papers and I was full
ears.

1074
01:27:27,200 --> 01:27:29,239
He says: Are you ready? I say: Yes.

1075
01:27:29,560 --> 01:27:30,959
He says: Let’s go. I turned on.

1076
01:27:32,360 --> 01:27:35,319
And nothing happens. He reads to himself.

1077
01:27:37,160 --> 01:27:39,119
He says: That's all. Stop.

1078
01:27:39,760 --> 01:27:45,359
Dear President! Members of the International
Olympic committee! Ladies and Gentlemen!

1079
01:27:45,840 --> 01:27:53,999
I ask you to support Olympic dream of millions f
Russians who are waiting for our decision with a


1080
01:27:54,360 --> 01:27:55,159
Thank you.

1081
01:27:55,479 --> 01:27:59,279
It was like an explosion, like a bomb We needed
to show,

1082
01:27:59,280 --> 01:28:03,119
like they say now, respect to the International
Olympic committee.

1083
01:28:03,400 --> 01:28:08,399
So that they would understand that they were given
a gesture of real respect.

1084
01:28:08,960 --> 01:28:13,839
These two phrases in French - bang! And it
happened.

1085
01:28:13,840 --> 01:28:15,639
Olympic games are ours, that's it.

1086
01:28:28,880 --> 01:28:31,639
The question of the country is perhaps the major
value

1087
01:28:34,200 --> 01:28:40,519
Then perhaps, a question of family, personal
relations and friendship, maybe.

1088
01:28:41,080 --> 01:28:46,279
He always shows devotion of such friendly relations.

1089
01:28:49,200 --> 01:28:56,599
I know how hard he suffers personal betrayal.

1090
01:28:57,360 --> 01:29:01,719
I know people with whom he had good relationships.

1091
01:29:02,160 --> 01:29:09,279
After they made some deeds which didn't comply
with his idea of peace and decency,

1092
01:29:09,280 --> 01:29:13,438
he just cut them out and never met with them again.

1093
01:29:15,400 --> 01:29:20,478
Personal contacts, personal contacts exist
exactly to be kept in private.

1094
01:29:20,720 --> 01:29:22,559
But I can tell several things.

1095
01:29:23,000 --> 01:29:28,199
Some time ago a CD was made... in 1999, I
guess...

1096
01:29:28,920 --> 01:29:31,399
The CD is called "Songs of the country which

doesn't exist any more".

1097
01:29:32,080 --> 01:29:38,639
Very good songs, good singers and words, and
music.

1098
01:29:43,360 --> 01:29:44,399
Sometimes we sing.

1099
01:29:44,640 --> 01:29:50,119
They say: We choose our enemies and friends by
ourselves, but neighbours are God given.

1100
01:29:50,720 --> 01:29:53,839
We are neighbours given by God.

1101
01:29:54,320 --> 01:30:00,119
I think that there are no more such close neighbour

1102
01:30:00,120 --> 01:30:04,719
allied relations like between Russia and
Kazakhstan.

1103
01:30:05,040 --> 01:30:09,799
It is objective, let no one get offended, we are the
closest countries.

1104
01:30:10,200 --> 01:30:14,039
Now we are talking about Eurasian Economic
Union.

1105
01:30:15,120 --> 01:30:21,039
This project is proposed by me. Now they say that
Russia is making a new Soviet Union.

1106
01:30:21,280 --> 01:30:28,759
Everybody is called... I proposed it because if
European Union is made, it is normal, right?

1107
01:30:29,000 --> 01:30:31,999
And if we start to say something it is bad.

1108
01:30:32,520 --> 01:30:34,639
This is a usual approach to such questions.

1109
01:30:37,240 --> 01:30:51,279
Desperate attempts of some countries to save their
role of the only development center,

1110
01:30:51,320 --> 01:30:54,039
the only center of the world control

1111
01:30:54,720 --> 01:31:05,119
have resulted in erosion of the international law, the
notion of the international security,

1112
01:31:06,080 --> 01:31:09,959
European security. The erosion of Yalta system has
started

1113
01:31:17,439 --> 01:31:21,079
of the unipolar conditions,

1114
01:31:21,080 --> 01:31:24,759
and tendency to the world supremacy.

1115
01:31:25,520 --> 01:31:28,119
Whatever has happened in the history of the
mankind.

1116
01:31:30,960 --> 01:31:34,039
However, what is the unipolar world?

1117
01:31:35,200 --> 01:31:43,079
However this term is decorated, it finally means in
practice only one thing.

1118
01:31:43,640 --> 01:31:51,159
this is one center of power, one center of force, one
center of decision making.

1119
01:31:52,560 --> 01:31:55,438
This is the world of one master of one sovereign.

1120
01:31:55,680 --> 01:32:01,039
I was surprised by the reaction of German and
other foreign journalists.

1121
01:32:01,360 --> 01:32:03,199
They forgot that they were journalists.

1122
01:32:03,680 --> 01:32:07,438
They stopped taking notes, they were sitting with
their mouths open

1123
01:32:07,439 --> 01:32:11,839
watching and listening what he was saying


1124
01:32:12,520 --> 01:32:17,719
One-sided, often illegitimate actions haven’t solved
any single problem.

1125
01:32:18,200 --> 01:32:23,639
Moreover, they have become the generator of new
human tragedies and trouble spots.

1126
01:32:24,280 --> 01:32:30,599
From one side - shock, from another - hidden
dissatisfaction They came to me: Why so sharp?

1127
01:32:30,760 --> 01:32:31,919
I say: What was sharp?

1128
01:32:34,640 --> 01:32:36,959
Speaking about this issues as an old soldier of the
Cold War, I would like to draw your attention

1129
01:32:37,680 --> 01:32:43,999
that one of the speeches almost caused a nostalgia
about those less complicated times.

1130
01:32:44,680 --> 01:32:45,239
Almost.

1131
01:32:45,920 --> 01:32:49,919
Many of you have big experience in diplomacy or

politics.

1132
01:32:50,880 --> 01:32:57,719
I, like one more speaker, have completely different
experience - experience of intelligence activities.

1133
01:32:58,240 --> 01:33:02,799
I suppose that old spies have a habit of blunt
speaking.

1134
01:33:05,240 --> 01:33:10,239
Fine, I will then answer on that I can read by
myself.

1135
01:33:10,840 --> 01:33:13,319
And if I don't answer, you will remind me your
questions.

1136
01:33:15,360 --> 01:33:18,039
What would be with Kosovo and Serbia?

1137
01:33:18,280 --> 01:33:21,279
Only Kosovans and Serbians can know it.

1138
01:33:22,120 --> 01:33:23,839
And let's not decide for them

1139
01:33:24,760 --> 01:33:26,119
how they should make their life.

1140
01:33:26,520 --> 01:33:31,039
One should not make himself a God and solve all
problems for all peoples.

1141
01:33:32,560 --> 01:33:37,839
We can only create conditions and help people to
solve their problems.

1142
01:33:42,040 --> 01:33:47,438
We got acquainted with Putin in one very small
department of one very big organization.

1143
01:33:48,439 --> 01:33:50,719
Big organization is certainly KGB of USSR,

1144
01:33:51,240 --> 01:33:56,159
and small department, it's really a small
department, of foreign intelligence.

1145
01:33:57,840 --> 01:34:03,359
We served as young officers, senior lieutenants,
captains.

1146
01:34:03,720 --> 01:34:07,478
At that time there were illegals in our department

1147
01:34:07,800 --> 01:34:15,199
Those who came back to the motherland after... 20
years of illegal work in the West.

1148
01:34:15,800 --> 01:34:19,839
We recall them with Vladimir Vladimirovych, when
we have some free time to reminisce.

1149
01:34:20,400 --> 01:34:23,559
People served, you understand by yourself, not for
money.

1150
01:34:25,920 --> 01:34:27,478
They risked hugely.

1151
01:34:29,880 --> 01:34:32,719
And whatever happened to them - these are illegals.

1152
01:34:36,320 --> 01:34:38,079
They were a live example.

1153
01:34:39,240 --> 01:34:41,359
They worked for the country, for the motherland

1154
01:34:42,280 --> 01:34:43,599
This is the essence.

1155
01:34:44,880 --> 01:34:47,639
Without any political colour, ideology and so on

1156
01:34:48,200 --> 01:34:55,599
After serving in KGB and intelligence, his entrance
in democratic life,

1157
01:34:55,640 --> 01:35:04,239
meeting new rules of life, possibilities took place
precisely during the work with Sobchak.

1158
01:35:04,840 --> 01:35:08,559
It was Sobchak being a bright character and
one of the leading activists,

1159
01:35:08,560 --> 01:35:12,319
accelerated his understanding of all events.

1160
01:35:12,920 --> 01:35:17,839
We all went out of the country, we considered
that the country had to prevail over everything.

1161
01:35:18,360 --> 01:35:23,478
And, to my mind, Sobchak taught us all how we
can keep balance,

1162
01:35:23,479 --> 01:35:28,639
where we can see new possibilities of democratic
country democratic order

1163
01:35:28,920 --> 01:35:34,159
freedom of opinion discussion defense of opinion
political competence.

1164
01:35:35,040 --> 01:35:46,438
in 2008, after serving two terms of presidency,
Putin had an incredibly high rating.

1165
01:35:46,920 --> 01:35:49,959
The question arose and it was the main question.

1166
01:35:50,040 --> 01:35:54,438
would Putin stay for the third term or finally
according to the Constitution

1167
01:35:54,439 --> 01:36:00,919
would leave this position, the most important for the
country which didn’t get strong yet

1168
01:36:02,200 --> 01:36:05,319
to another leader. This question bothered everybody.

1169
01:36:05,560 --> 01:36:06,999
Thoughts and talks were only about it.

1170
01:36:07,120 --> 01:36:09,839
Vladimir Vladimirovych, during last 2-3 years
appeals to you

1171
01:36:09,880 --> 01:36:12,599
to stay for the third term sounded more and more
often.

1172
01:36:12,920 --> 01:36:18,199
More likely, a part of your team also tried to
influence you in this matter.

1173
01:36:18,640 --> 01:36:22,959
How big was the temptation to consent to these
suasions and to stay for the third term? Thanks.

1174
01:36:23,240 --> 01:36:27,239
I had no temptation to stay for the third term.

1175
01:36:27,680 --> 01:36:28,839
Never.

1176
01:36:29,680 --> 01:36:34,239
From the first day of work as the President of
Russian Federation, I decided at once

1177
01:36:35,320 --> 01:36:37,759
that I would not breach the working Constitution.

1178
01:36:38,560 --> 01:36:41,438
I got this vaccination during the work with Anatoliy
Aleksandrovych Sobchak.

1179
01:36:43,880 --> 01:36:48,199
And I think it is an important signal to the society in
general.

1180
01:36:48,600 --> 01:36:54,199
Everyone must obey the working law, starting with
the head of the state.

1181
01:36:55,080 --> 01:37:01,559
To your mind, what was your main success,
main achievement at the position of the state head?

1182
01:37:01,840 --> 01:37:07,999
And what has gone wrong? What do you consider
as your main failure during these years? Thanks.

1183
01:37:11,800 --> 01:37:17,319
I don't see any serious failures. All set goals were
achieved, tasks - completed

1184
01:37:17,720 --> 01:37:22,639
I'm not ashamed in front of people who chose me
twice for the position of the President of Russian

1185
01:37:23,000 --> 01:37:28,478
All these 8 years I worked hard like a slave
galley, from the morning till night.

1186
01:37:29,560 --> 01:37:33,438
And did it with full force.

1187
01:37:36,200 --> 01:37:37,719
I'm satisfied with results of my work

1188
01:37:44,160 --> 01:37:47,039
Hundreds of thousands of tourists and heads of 40
countries of the world are guests.

1189
01:37:47,040 --> 01:37:49,319
All at 300th anniversary of Saint Petersburg.

1190
01:37:51,320 --> 01:37:57,279
Veteran of the war, Mayerbeck Dzgoyev was one of
the first to get a course at the multifaceted medical

1191
01:37:57,479 --> 01:38:00,039
Unique equipment is installed here.

1192
01:38:01,880 --> 01:38:03,839
A tanker of ice class is commissioned.

1193
01:38:06,560 --> 01:38:09,239
Prayer towers can be seen from any point of
Groznyy, even at night.

1194
01:38:09,439 --> 01:38:13,519
The heart of Chechnya already claims for the title of
the biggest mosque in Europe.

1195
01:38:15,120 --> 01:38:16,039
The North pole is ours.

1196
01:38:16,040 --> 01:38:21,239
We have it, friends. - It goes, it goes...

1197
01:38:36,960 --> 01:38:39,639
Hello, Russia Hello, Moscow.

1198
01:38:40,880 --> 01:38:46,359
We have a chance to develop like we did it last
years.

1199
01:38:46,840 --> 01:38:52,159
And I am sure we have to choose this way. We have
all chances for this.

1200
01:38:53,400 --> 01:38:56,399
Did you get cold? - No.

1201
01:38:57,120 --> 01:39:00,199
Can you give me one minute? - Yes.

1202
01:39:01,680 --> 01:39:06,119
Elections of the President of Russian Federation
took place.

1203
01:39:07,240 --> 01:39:15,478
In 2008 when Putin started to work as the Prime
Minister

1204
01:39:15,880 --> 01:39:25,279
It seemed that it would be... the time of resting on
your laurels.

1205
01:39:25,520 --> 01:39:29,438
I.e. he was the head of the state, he saved the
country from collapse.

1206
01:39:29,880 --> 01:39:32,639
He set it on trajectory of stable development.

1207
01:39:32,960 --> 01:39:34,759
He paid all debts.

1208
01:39:35,640 --> 01:39:37,239
With external, with internal.

1209
01:39:38,439 --> 01:39:41,559
He raised the living standards of the population

1210
01:39:41,600 --> 01:39:45,438
and he raised it not for the future generations, but
for the present.

1211
01:39:45,680 --> 01:39:47,919
This never happened in the history of our country

1212
01:39:49,640 --> 01:39:52,919
And in theory, he had to enter the this wonderful
white house at Krasnopresnenskaya quay,

1213
01:39:52,920 --> 01:39:56,239
sit down in the cabinet and say: Thanks God.

1214
01:39:56,880 --> 01:39:58,879
And the world crisis broke out

1215
01:40:02,080 --> 01:40:10,039
In fact, it was 45 Everybody was scared nobody
lived in such a strong stress of the world scale.

1216
01:40:10,479 --> 01:40:12,119
And again, what has Putin done?

1217
01:40:13,200 --> 01:40:20,438
He went to the public and said: I bear responsibility
that 1998 would not repeat.

1218
01:40:21,360 --> 01:40:24,039
I bear personal responsibility

1219
01:40:24,040 --> 01:40:29,079
Turn up his sleeves, and kept on rowing his galley
from dusk till dawn.

1220
01:40:29,640 --> 01:40:32,159
The fate of tens of thousands of people was at
stake.

1221
01:40:32,320 --> 01:40:38,438
If the state didn't help they would just go to streets
and became unemployed.

1222
01:40:38,680 --> 01:40:40,279
How many people worked here?

1223
01:40:40,880 --> 01:40:45,879
Around 3 000 people worked here before the crisis.

1224
01:40:46,200 --> 01:40:49,799
At this enterprise? - Yes. Now 2 345.

1225
01:40:50,240 --> 01:40:55,199
Are listed? - Right. Among them 2 thirds are in
down time.

1226
01:40:55,439 --> 01:40:58,399
At one working site there were three joint stock
companies.

1227
01:40:58,560 --> 01:41:01,679
And at a certain point we got messed

1228
01:41:01,760 --> 01:41:06,319
so that we couldn't find a solution which would allow
the work of the company.

1229
01:41:06,520 --> 01:41:08,519
I don't see your signature. Come here and sign.

1230
01:41:09,240 --> 01:41:10,239
Come to me.

1231
01:41:14,720 --> 01:41:15,519
Here is the agreement.

1232
01:41:25,320 --> 01:41:27,559
Give me the pen back.

1233
01:41:29,840 --> 01:41:36,319
I consider that you made thousands of people as
hostages of your ambitions,

1234
01:41:36,320 --> 01:41:42,839
on-professionalism or maybe obvious greed.

1235
01:41:46,680 --> 01:41:48,359
It is absolutely unacceptable.

1236
01:41:50,640 --> 01:41:55,478
And where is that social responsibility of business?

1237
01:41:56,840 --> 01:41:57,639
Where is it?

1238
01:41:59,040 --> 01:42:00,719
Here, you know, the matter is not in offence.

1239
01:42:02,040 --> 01:42:03,159
You can discuss it for a long time.

1240
01:42:03,640 --> 01:42:07,559
You can remain in stupor, let's say.

1241
01:42:07,960 --> 01:42:13,839
Not solving some problems. He understands that
he is the last person who has to make this

1242
01:42:14,200 --> 01:42:17,839
So that these matters would not be discussed but
some actions started.

1243
01:42:18,960 --> 01:42:20,879
Now as for administration.

1244
01:42:22,040 --> 01:42:27,039
Nobody will persuade me that the management of
the region and other levels

1245
01:42:27,040 --> 01:42:31,399
as done all what depended on them in order to
help people.

1246
01:42:35,280 --> 01:42:38,519
When I said that was going to come here, what did
they replied?

1247
01:42:39,040 --> 01:42:42,199
No need, let's go I will show you another company
which is recently built.

1248
01:42:42,720 --> 01:42:46,559
Certainly, well done that you built a new enterprise.

1249
01:42:47,080 --> 01:42:50,438
Why did you start to run about like cockroaches
just before my arrival?

1250
01:42:50,600 --> 01:42:53,519
were there no people earlier who were able to
make decisions?

1251
01:42:53,800 --> 01:42:56,599
All salary debts must be paid.

1252
01:42:59,479 --> 01:43:03,559
This is 41 242 000 RUB. The deadline is today.

1253
01:43:06,840 --> 01:43:08,759
Thanks. Good luck.

1254
01:43:13,400 --> 01:43:16,199
During the crisis, when job cuts started,

1255
01:43:16,200 --> 01:43:20,639
the complex launched such a huge project as 5000
rolling mill.


1256
01:43:21,520 --> 01:43:25,159
It saved people from absence of work.

1257
01:43:27,120 --> 01:43:33,999
Now, tubes which we produce, are used for
complicated pipelines like North Stream.

1258
01:43:34,040 --> 01:43:37,879
Now for the Power of Siberia for production of
submarines

1259
01:43:38,200 --> 01:43:48,119
This naturally results on salary, i.e. lately the level
of life risen significantly.

1260
01:43:48,880 --> 01:43:52,759
We can see real changes. What is used in
Russia?

1261
01:43:52,800 --> 01:43:56,679
To believe people in practice but not in words.

1262
01:43:59,200 --> 01:44:06,279
On August 8th 2008, if you remember, it was the
opening day of Beijing Olympic games.

1263
01:44:06,760 --> 01:44:08,599
We appeared in the same residency.

1264
01:44:09,120 --> 01:44:13,039
And in one room we were sitting and talking, at that
time his telephone rang,

1265
01:44:13,040 --> 01:44:16,438
I said: I will go. He said: No. stay here.

1266
01:44:16,640 --> 01:44:21,639
At that moment he was informed what events took
place in North Ossetia

1267
01:44:21,800 --> 01:44:26,199
And he listened, listened, put down the receiver, and
was very upset.

1268
01:44:26,479 --> 01:44:29,119
I asked: What happened? I thought something
happened at his home,

1269
01:44:29,120 --> 01:44:31,799
something special. I have never seen him like that.

1270
01:44:31,880 --> 01:44:36,438
And he says: Can you imagine? Our peacekeepers
were attacked,

1271
01:44:36,439 --> 01:44:40,999
and several soldiers were killed. What did they do?
What did they do?

1272
01:44:44,920 --> 01:44:48,478
The situation developed dramatically for 17 years.

1273
01:44:49,840 --> 01:44:54,119
Russian Federation performed peacekeeping
functions for 17 years.

1274
01:44:54,400 --> 01:44:57,799
It helped to keep peace and calm there

1275
01:44:58,040 --> 01:45:02,239
It prevented murders which took place from 90s.

1276
01:45:03,360 --> 01:45:09,319
And tried to keep the unity of Georgian state.

1277
01:45:10,560 --> 01:45:15,839
Nonetheless after the aggression and genocide

which was started by the regime of Saakashvilli

1278
01:45:16,479 --> 01:45:22,039
the situation changed and our main task was to
prevent humanitarian catastrophe,

1279
01:45:22,040 --> 01:45:25,879
to save lives of people for whom we bear
responsibility.

1280
01:45:28,960 --> 01:45:37,599
He made decision at once to fly from Beijing to
Ossetia.

1281
01:45:39,000 --> 01:45:42,919
And he goes straight to people, certainly. This is
typical.

1282
01:45:44,040 --> 01:45:49,639
I.e. all what is concerned with military actions,
he was informed during the flight, and he goes at

1283
01:45:50,160 --> 01:45:54,599
Camps of refugees hospitals where the wounded
stay.

1284
01:45:54,960 --> 01:45:59,159
It is a genocide. - A real genocide. They kill the
wounded.

1285
01:45:59,520 --> 01:46:06,919
My child of 5 months who wasn’t even born, left,
he didn't even see his father, why... I don't know.

1286
01:46:08,240 --> 01:46:11,478
He was accompanied his personal photographers,
his personal cameraman.

1287
01:46:12,040 --> 01:46:16,999
I don't know how my father-in-law is, who left in the
village, old man, ill old man.

1288
01:46:17,320 --> 01:46:28,639
And then he quite toughly gave command
to stop recording because these ladies really had a

1289
01:46:29,560 --> 01:46:39,399
And it was utter darkness, cameraman just lit the
way with this light so that no one would stumble.

1290
01:46:41,439 --> 01:46:46,839
You have like Presidency of trials. You overcome
something, another thing falls on you.

1291
01:46:47,640 --> 01:46:53,199
Chechnya campaign, terror acts, the crisis,
Ossetia.

1292
01:46:54,240 --> 01:46:59,639
It goes in a long line, it seems that you solved, and
there is again and again.

1293
01:47:00,320 --> 01:47:05,438
As a manager, at what moment do you feel more
comfortable.

1294
01:47:05,439 --> 01:47:11,079
when there is a war or when it is peace and
everyday routine?

1295
01:47:13,520 --> 01:47:15,438
I worked as the chairman of the government.

1296
01:47:16,080 --> 01:47:17,478
I like this job very much.

1297
01:47:18,479 --> 01:47:24,959
It is definite, clear... not clear, but anyway it is...

1298
01:47:25,760 --> 01:47:29,839
more concentrated at certain questions.

1299
01:47:30,160 --> 01:47:32,959
And one can see the result at once.

1300
01:47:33,439 --> 01:47:35,599
what you did right, what wrong, where you made a
mistake.

1301
01:47:37,320 --> 01:47:41,039
When the task has a more global character,

1302
01:47:41,040 --> 01:47:50,039
then the result can not be understood
at once what it would be in certain time.

1303
01:47:50,760 --> 01:47:57,279
However, indeed, I have never thought about it. I
always start from what I have,

1304
01:47:57,960 --> 01:48:00,759
and I solve those tasks which are set for me.

1305
01:48:04,840 --> 01:48:09,599
In the beginning of 2009 I was at the meeting with
Putin in Sochi,

1306
01:48:10,240 --> 01:48:13,039
when the fate of Olympic infrastructure was
discussed.

1307
01:48:13,240 --> 01:48:19,559
In the course of the meeting Putin called many
times so that the budget money would be saved.

1308
01:48:19,760 --> 01:48:23,199
Because on the one hand we needed to build
beautifully, awesome,

1309
01:48:23,560 --> 01:48:25,559
and on the other hand, there is the crisis,

1310
01:48:25,560 --> 01:48:27,599
there is little money in the budget and we should
save.

1311
01:48:27,880 --> 01:48:33,519
At certain moment after reminding about saving
again, he said: Money is people's.

1312
01:48:33,800 --> 01:48:36,839
And he said it so quietly, without pathos.

1313
01:48:37,040 --> 01:48:42,039
But the voice quaked and it was seen that he was
worried personally about it.

1314
01:48:42,439 --> 01:48:48,559
He really considers that the money is people's, i.e.
earned by the whole country.

1315
01:48:48,760 --> 01:48:51,359
And thus it must be spent assiduously.

1316
01:48:54,280 --> 01:49:02,879
Such quantity of trips like at that time to
enterprises, factories, Rosselmash, Avtovaz, he has

1317
01:49:03,040 --> 01:49:08,999
Besides that this was the summer when awful fires
took place.

1318
01:49:09,920 --> 01:49:17,639
And we went right the other day to this burning
villages, met with people

1319
01:49:17,800 --> 01:49:25,079
who sometimes were ready to tear apart
any representative of the authority who would .

1320
01:49:28,000 --> 01:49:32,319
we are dying, help us, Vladimir Vladimirovych,
help us...

1321
01:49:40,880 --> 01:49:44,119
Why did no one do it? Why did you refuse from
everything?

1322
01:49:44,360 --> 01:49:47,478
We stood for you... - Who stood for us?

1323
01:49:49,960 --> 01:49:51,799
We will restore nothing from these firebrands.


1324
01:49:52,120 --> 01:49:54,359
We will build new houses.

1325
01:50:00,439 --> 01:50:03,799
Why did he allow it? - Now, now, wait a second.

1326
01:50:09,760 --> 01:50:12,079
I want everyone to hear this, can everyone hear me
well?

1327
01:50:14,000 --> 01:50:16,359
Until winter all houses will be built.

1328
01:50:16,479 --> 01:50:21,039
Our village will be restored, do you promise us?
Yes, I promise, your village will be restored.

1329
01:50:26,520 --> 01:50:35,839
These trips covered with smoke and flame of that
Premier-Minister time come to mind first.

1330
01:50:39,400 --> 01:50:48,279
Then it was a real toil: everyday, getting deep into
the soil.

1331
01:50:48,600 --> 01:50:50,279
It was a work on a field.

1332
01:50:51,880 --> 01:50:58,639
Then I remember how we went to the same places,
but with new houses built

1333
01:50:59,600 --> 01:51:04,559
I invited you for house warming. Let's go inside.

1334
01:51:05,040 --> 01:51:07,039
The heating is at the minimum.

1335
01:51:07,320 --> 01:51:09,839
As for the gas, the governor told me: We will not
finish in time.

1336
01:51:10,640 --> 01:51:11,839
Finished in time. - In time.

1337
01:51:15,240 --> 01:51:18,799
Considering the proposal to put
my name at the top of the party list,

1338
01:51:18,800 --> 01:51:21,279
to get involved in party activities

1339
01:51:21,320 --> 01:51:24,879
and in case of successful elections,

1340
01:51:24,880 --> 01:51:28,438
my readiness to take over
practical work in the government

1341
01:51:28,439 --> 01:51:30,919
I think that it would be fair

1342
01:51:30,960 --> 01:51:35,399
if Congress would support nomination
of Vladimir Putin, Chairman of the party,

1343
01:51:35,400 --> 01:51:37,599
as a president of the country!

1344
01:51:59,000 --> 01:52:03,119
When Medvedev proposed Putin
and Putin proposed Medvedev,

1345
01:52:03,120 --> 01:52:09,119
it did seem to everyone
quite arrogant so to say

1346
01:52:09,160 --> 01:52:12,399

towards their voters.

1347
01:52:12,400 --> 01:52:16,079
that there weren't actually
any real elections.

1348
01:52:17,760 --> 01:52:21,999
And those who didn't make
their choice in Putin's favor

1349
01:52:22,000 --> 01:52:24,599
during the presidents elections

1350
01:52:24,600 --> 01:52:27,559
those were the ones who came over.

1351
01:52:27,560 --> 01:52:29,919
They came to Bolotnaya Square

1352
01:52:29,920 --> 01:52:32,959
to say that they had different opinion.

1353
01:52:32,960 --> 01:52:35,679
I came to Bolotnaya to see all this.

1354
01:52:35,680 --> 01:52:37,919
But they occupied the podium

1355
01:52:37,920 --> 01:52:41,159
and immediately took the charge of
who is allowed to stand on it or not.

1356
01:52:41,160 --> 01:52:43,159
Later I was sitting in the bar
in the neighborhood


1357
01:52:43,160 --> 01:52:45,559
and listening to their ridiculous talks

1358
01:52:45,560 --> 01:52:48,159
that they will overthrow
Russian government,

1359
01:52:48,200 --> 01:52:50,559
that they won, they spoke up.
I found it extremely funny.

1360
01:52:54,840 --> 01:52:57,839
I had very thorough
conversation with Putin.

1361
01:52:58,040 --> 01:53:01,119
I told him that probably
I will go to Sakharov Avenue

1362
01:53:01,120 --> 01:53:04,199
I’m not going to say what he told me,


1363
01:53:04,200 --> 01:53:06,478
but there weren't
any restrictions at least.

1364
01:53:06,479 --> 01:53:08,799
I simply thought that

1365
01:53:08,840 --> 01:53:10,839
for the first time on Sakharova Ave

1366
01:53:10,840 --> 01:53:16,519
will be those representatives of middle class
who were never out on protests.

1367
01:53:16,560 --> 01:53:19,399
We have to organize platform for a dialog!

1368
01:53:19,439 --> 01:53:21,799
Otherwise there will be a revolution!

1369
01:53:21,800 --> 01:53:26,519
Otherwise we'll lose the chance
we are having today.

1370
01:53:26,520 --> 01:53:30,279
I tried to give authorities
and Putin a push

1371
01:53:30,320 --> 01:53:33,519
and to find the grounds
for such dialog with people

1372
01:53:33,520 --> 01:53:38,119
who sincerely care about
situation in the country.

1373
01:53:38,479 --> 01:53:44,679
But since these people
got very much mixed up

1374
01:53:44,720 --> 01:53:47,839
with more radical groups
and with nationalists.

1375
01:53:47,880 --> 01:53:51,759
that's why I noticed later

1376
01:53:51,800 --> 01:53:57,879
that Putin doesn't see any
representatives for a dialog there.

1377
01:54:05,520 --> 01:54:09,959
In Putin's opinion, they
have crossed the red line then.

1378
01:54:15,200 --> 01:54:18,119
They started to beat up policemen.

1379
01:54:18,280 --> 01:54:20,359
He's killed!

1380
01:54:22,360 --> 01:54:25,519
It was decided that investigation
will take place

1381
01:54:25,520 --> 01:54:27,559
and if information will be confirmed,

1382
01:54:27,560 --> 01:54:31,719
that this man hit the policeman,
he'll be put in jail then

1383
01:54:31,880 --> 01:54:34,919
And it did happen.

1384
01:54:37,400 --> 01:54:39,279
Most important is that

1385
01:54:39,280 --> 01:54:42,519
it was not only in accordance with
the laws of Russian Federation

1386
01:54:42,560 --> 01:54:45,519
but also with internal morals of Putin.

1387
01:54:48,760 --> 01:54:51,079
They are out flying the hang-glider.

1388
01:54:51,080 --> 01:54:55,839
Out flying it and falling to
the right, the left of the wing.

1389
01:54:55,960 --> 01:54:57,479
Good birds!

1390
01:54:57,720 --> 01:55:00,799
Beautiful guys, cute ones.

1391
01:55:01,000 --> 01:55:03,999
Kseniya Sobchak,
your consistent opposer,

1392
01:55:04,040 --> 01:55:08,199
projected this whole situation

1393
01:55:08,200 --> 01:55:11,439
on election statistics.

1394
01:55:11,440 --> 01:55:13,559
I don't know if you heard about it.

1395
01:55:13,600 --> 01:55:17,919
So, 63% of the cranes followed Putin,

1396
01:55:17,920 --> 01:55:22,359
the rest have chosen to fly to the South

1397
01:55:22,400 --> 01:55:27,919
and only a small group stayed to make
nests on squares and boulevards.

1398
01:55:27,920 --> 01:55:31,199
Thus, not all cranes flew after Putin.

1399
01:55:31,400 --> 01:55:33,519
Why don’t I hear applause?

1400
01:55:38,360 --> 01:55:40,159
That's true.

1401
01:55:40,160 --> 01:55:42,319
Not all cranes flew... right away.

1402
01:55:42,320 --> 01:55:44,959
Only the weak cranes didn't fly.

1403
01:55:52,040 --> 01:55:55,439
And only on the first try.
On the 2nd try everyone flew!

1404
01:56:01,360 --> 01:56:03,759
Even though.

1405
01:56:03,760 --> 01:56:08,519
I have to admit,
I have to tell you honestly,

1406
01:56:08,520 --> 01:56:11,719
a reason that not all cranes flew right away,

1407
01:56:11,720 --> 01:56:16,999
it was also their leader's.

1408
01:56:17,040 --> 01:56:19,199
Cause in certain moments,

1409
01:56:19,240 --> 01:56:22,079
I mean bad weather and strong side wind,

1410
01:56:22,120 --> 01:56:25,199
pilot is forced to gain
height and speed quickly.

1411
01:56:25,200 --> 01:56:27,439
Otherwise the system
can turn over

1412
01:56:30,440 --> 01:56:32,319
What else can I add?

1413
01:56:32,320 --> 01:56:34,759
There are little birds indeed,

1414
01:56:34,800 --> 01:56:36,519
who don't fly in a flock at all,

1415
01:56:36,520 --> 01:56:39,679
they prefer to make their nests separately.

1416
01:56:39,720 --> 01:56:41,799
Well, what can we do?

1417
01:56:41,800 --> 01:56:44,759
This is a different kind of problem.

1418
01:56:45,920 --> 01:56:48,439
Even if they aren't part of the flock,

1419
01:56:48,480 --> 01:56:50,279
they are still part of our population

1420
01:56:50,280 --> 01:56:52,759
and we should treat them nicely.

1421
01:56:59,040 --> 01:57:01,359
There were people,

1422
01:57:03,080 --> 01:57:05,879
Khodorkovsky and Berezovsky, for instance

1423
01:57:07,240 --> 01:57:12,199
who took absolutely intransigent
aggressive stand against him.

1424
01:57:14,960 --> 01:57:16,119
Vladimir Vladimirovich,

1425
01:57:16,120 --> 01:57:18,879
one year ago you pardoned Khodorkovsky.

1426
01:57:18,880 --> 01:57:21,839
He promised you to stay away from politics.

1427
01:57:21,840 --> 01:57:25,719
But now he is even announcing
his presidential ambitions!

1428
01:57:25,720 --> 01:57:28,159
I have a question in this regard.
don't you regret...

1429
01:57:28,160 --> 01:57:30,359
And where is he going to run for president?

1430
01:57:31,120 --> 01:57:33,919
Mr Khodorkovsky appealed to me for a pardon,

1431
01:57:33,920 --> 01:57:36,519
he has sent a relevant paper at least.

1432
01:57:36,520 --> 01:57:39,399
And it seemed that he wasn't
planning to go in politics.

1433
01:57:39,400 --> 01:57:42,839
But when I was making
a decision about pardon

1434
01:57:42,840 --> 01:57:46,879
I wasn't considering
whether he will do it or not,

1435
01:57:46,920 --> 01:57:49,479
whether he'll go into politics or not.

1436
01:57:49,480 --> 01:57:50,759
It's his choice.

1437
01:57:50,760 --> 01:57:52,599
I was considering
humanitarian grounds instead.

1438
01:57:52,600 --> 01:57:55,879
He was writing me then
that his mom was seriously ill,

1439
01:57:55,920 --> 01:57:58,639
mom is a holy cause you know!

1440
01:57:58,680 --> 01:58:00,719
am saying this without any sarcasm.

1441
01:58:00,760 --> 01:58:05,759
And he served most part of his
punishment in places of imprisonment.

1442
01:58:05,760 --> 01:58:09,799
What would be the point
of keeping him there,

1443
01:58:09,800 --> 01:58:15,039
considering that he could
miss saying goodbye to his mom?

1444
01:58:17,320 --> 01:58:20,119
Mother played a part there of course

1445
01:58:20,160 --> 01:58:24,239
because humanity is very important.

1446
01:58:24,440 --> 01:58:27,199
Berezovsky wanted
to return to the country.

1447
01:58:27,240 --> 01:58:31,119
And Berezovsky was talking about
his love to the country etc.

1448
01:58:31,320 --> 01:58:32,919
That's right.

1449
01:58:32,960 --> 01:58:36,239
He was writing that he has
made many mistakes,

1450
01:58:36,240 --> 01:58:38,199
caused damage.

1451
01:58:38,200 --> 01:58:41,359
He was asking to forgive him and
allow him to come back to Motherland.

1452
01:58:41,360 --> 01:58:44,519
He was ready to allow him
to come back to the country.

1453
01:58:44,560 --> 01:58:46,919
He is a strong enough person

1454
01:58:48,520 --> 01:58:53,719
to forgive those who are
unforgiving to himself.

1455
01:58:56,560 --> 01:58:58,679
September 5th, 2013

1456
01:58:58,680 --> 01:59:02,039
Last night Barak Obama
flew across the Atlantic

1457
01:59:02,040 --> 01:59:04,799
in order to launch a diplomatic offensive.

1458
01:59:06,240 --> 01:59:11,439
And I also look forward
to discuss situation in Syria.

1459
01:59:11,440 --> 01:59:14,959
I think that we should take seriously

1460
01:59:15,000 --> 01:59:18,719
our joint recognition that
chemical weapon use in Syria

1461
01:59:18,760 --> 01:59:20,679
is not only a tragedy,

1462
01:59:20,680 --> 01:59:23,919
but also a breach of international law.

1463
01:59:24,760 --> 01:59:29,359
Barak Obama flew from Stockholm
to G-20 Summit in St Petersburg,

1464
01:59:29,400 --> 01:59:33,399
though one-on-one with Vladimir
Putin was not in his schedule.

1465
01:59:44,000 --> 01:59:46,239
Earlier they were ready

1466
01:59:46,280 --> 01:59:49,159
though in Syria regard
there were preferences only.

1467
01:59:49,200 --> 01:59:52,759
If M Obama is not able
to persuade world leaders

1468
01:59:52,760 --> 01:59:56,119
that military response is the only option

1469
01:59:56,120 --> 01:59:58,399
then convincing Congress and Americans


1470
01:59:58,400 --> 02:00:00,719
on primary voting held next week

1471
02:00:00,760 --> 02:00:02,839
will be even more complicated.

1472
02:00:03,040 --> 02:00:07,199
Couple of days prior to making a decision

1473
02:00:07,200 --> 02:00:09,119
in regard to begin to bomb Damascus

1474
02:00:09,120 --> 02:00:11,519
in order to overthrow the regime

1475
02:00:11,560 --> 02:00:17,199
under the pretence that Syrian
government used chemical weapon,

1476
02:00:17,200 --> 02:00:19,799
though no evidence was ever presented.

1477
02:00:20,160 --> 02:00:25,519
On G-20 Summit in St Petersburg
Putin made a proposal.

1478
02:00:25,520 --> 02:00:29,639
He simply said: "Since you are so
worried about chemical weapon

1479
02:00:29,640 --> 02:00:31,919
let's work on convincing Syria

1480
02:00:31,920 --> 02:00:34,839
to sign convention on the
prohibition of chemical weapon

1481
02:00:34,840 --> 02:00:36,479
and promise to destroy them.

1482
02:00:36,480 --> 02:00:38,319
There is no need to bomb.

1483
02:00:38,320 --> 02:00:41,879
if it's all about the chemical
weapon and nothing else.

1484
02:00:41,920 --> 02:00:44,719
In this case we are ready
to use our influence

1485
02:00:44,760 --> 02:00:46,719
to convince Syria to join convention

1486
02:00:46,760 --> 02:00:48,519
on the prohibition of chemical weapon

1487
02:00:48,560 --> 02:00:51,679
and would sign with a relevant organization

1488
02:00:51,720 --> 02:00:53,599
agreement on its destruction.

1489
02:00:53,640 --> 02:00:57,159
I would like to remind you, that
using force against a sovereign state

1490
02:00:57,160 --> 02:01:02,879
is solely allowed in case
of the self-defence,

1491
02:01:02,880 --> 02:01:05,639
and as we know,
Syria isn't attacking USA,

1492
02:01:05,640 --> 02:01:07,319
and secondly,

1493
02:01:07,320 --> 02:01:10,519
by the decision of UN Security Council.

1494
02:01:10,520 --> 02:01:14,119
As one of the summit
participants said yesterday,

1495
02:01:14,160 --> 02:01:17,839
Those who act otherwise,
put themselves outside of the law."

1496
02:01:20,280 --> 02:01:22,919
In the beginning there wasn't any dialog.

1497
02:01:22,960 --> 02:01:25,719
There was a handshake
on the meeting ceremony.

1498
02:01:25,760 --> 02:01:27,679
Some people said it was cold,

1499
02:01:27,720 --> 02:01:30,359
others that it was timid or aggressive

1500
02:01:30,360 --> 02:01:34,519
Next morning totally unplanned
contact took place.

1501
02:01:34,560 --> 02:01:38,199
Every participant of G-20 was witnessing

1502
02:01:38,200 --> 02:01:40,919
that they started to talk.

1503
02:01:40,920 --> 02:01:42,919
Putin and Obama.

1504
02:01:44,200 --> 02:01:48,319
They started this conversation on foot

1505
02:01:48,360 --> 02:01:52,799
and then sat down in
a corner of a small hall.

1506
02:01:53,560 --> 02:01:56,559
It was continuing
for few minutes at first.

1507
02:01:56,560 --> 02:01:59,119
All country leaders were
standing there and waiting.

1508
02:01:59,120 --> 02:02:01,879
Five, ten minutes have passed.

1509
02:02:01,920 --> 02:02:07,279
They weren't paying attention of course
to what was happening around.

1510
02:02:07,280 --> 02:02:10,399
I guess that in terms of the protocol

1511
02:02:10,400 --> 02:02:12,759
there was an awkward pause.

1512
02:02:12,760 --> 02:02:15,439
But it didn't really hang in the air,

1513
02:02:15,480 --> 02:02:18,159
cause all leaders of the countries

1514
02:02:18,160 --> 02:02:22,879
were glancing into the corner
where two presidents were sitting

1515
02:02:23,320 --> 02:02:26,359
and we could feel the
complete understanding

1516
02:02:26,400 --> 02:02:31,959
of how important this talk
was for the whole world.

1517
02:02:35,800 --> 02:02:39,239
Of course Putin and
Obama didn't succeed

1518
02:02:39,240 --> 02:02:41,119
in solving Syria’s problem.

1519
02:02:41,120 --> 02:02:42,919
However...

1520
02:02:42,960 --> 02:02:46,119
disposal of the chemical weapon stocks

1521
02:02:46,800 --> 02:02:49,079
which Syria had back then

1522
02:02:49,080 --> 02:02:51,719
did take place and it is completed.

1523
02:02:51,760 --> 02:02:53,079
And who knows,

1524
02:02:53,080 --> 02:02:57,559
if they wouldn't reach an agreement then
on disposal of the chemical weapon

1525
02:02:57,920 --> 02:03:01,359
what could have happened today

1526
02:03:01,360 --> 02:03:03,679
if it would get into the hands of ISIS?

1527
02:03:03,680 --> 02:03:06,999
Into the hands of people who
are cutting off heads

1528
02:03:07,000 --> 02:03:09,319
burning people alive etc.

1529
02:03:15,720 --> 02:03:19,519
He was urging his partners
to make agreements

1530
02:03:19,520 --> 02:03:24,919
not for a half-step ahead,
not for a period of 2-3 years

1531
02:03:24,960 --> 02:03:27,919
when on the next elections

1532
02:03:27,960 --> 02:03:33,279
they'll need to impress the voters
with a new glamorous victory,

1533
02:03:33,280 --> 02:03:35,359
no it should be a bit further

1534
02:03:35,360 --> 02:03:37,359
Looking beyond the horizon.

1535
02:03:37,360 --> 02:03:39,919
You see that's the thing

1536
02:03:39,920 --> 02:03:44,359
which really differs our
Western partners from Putin.

1537
02:03:49,320 --> 02:03:54,559
So, you are proposing this
concept of the fair world order,

1538
02:03:54,560 --> 02:03:57,439
but you suddenly find out that the world
isn't willing to listen to you.

1539
02:03:57,440 --> 02:04:00,119
They are calling black white
and vice versa.

1540
02:04:00,160 --> 02:04:04,799
Do they fear the role Russia
began to play in the world?

1541
02:04:04,840 --> 02:04:08,319
When from practically failing state

1542
02:04:08,320 --> 02:04:12,479
it suddenly became a
powerful political player?

1543
02:04:12,480 --> 02:04:14,559
When you became if I may say so

1544
02:04:14,560 --> 02:04:17,079
the leader of the conservative part

1545
02:04:17,080 --> 02:04:19,279
of both European and American society?

1546
02:04:19,280 --> 02:04:21,119
Well, you are digging too deep.

1547
02:04:21,120 --> 02:04:22,959
Sometimes I get a feeling

1548
02:04:22,960 --> 02:04:25,959
that they like us only when we
need humanitarian aid from them.

1549
02:04:25,960 --> 02:04:28,879
Everything is good then,
they are sending potatoes,

1550
02:04:28,880 --> 02:04:31,319
and I'm very thankful for that
no kidding,

1551
02:04:31,360 --> 02:04:33,959
many people were doing this sincerely,

1552
02:04:33,960 --> 02:04:35,919
ordinary people in particular

1553
02:04:35,920 --> 02:04:39,359
However so-called establishment,

1554
02:04:39,360 --> 02:04:42,919
political and economic elites
of these countries

1555
02:04:42,960 --> 02:04:46,679
they only like us when we are poor
and standing with a begging bowl.

1556
02:04:46,680 --> 02:04:49,719
As soon as we start talking
about our interests

1557
02:04:49,760 --> 02:04:53,119
and they start feeling sort of
geopolitical competition,

1558
02:04:53,120 --> 02:04:54,799
they don't like that.

1559
02:04:54,840 --> 02:04:57,119
Well, would you like if a new guy
comes to your TV channel,

1560
02:04:57,120 --> 02:04:59,079
strong, powerful and young,

1561
02:04:59,360 --> 02:05:03,559
with good manners
and encyclopedic education

1562
02:05:03,600 --> 02:05:05,559
and will be slowly pushing you out?

1563
02:05:05,600 --> 02:05:08,439
You'd be struggling too
and start fighting him.

1564
02:05:08,480 --> 02:05:10,959
You know that's the human nature.

1565
02:05:10,960 --> 02:05:13,399
Same story for international relations.

1566
02:05:14,480 --> 02:05:16,799
I am strongly convinced

1567
02:05:16,800 --> 02:05:20,839
that we aren't breaching
any game rules.

1568
02:05:20,840 --> 02:05:22,119
By the game rules

1569
02:05:22,120 --> 02:05:25,679
I mean primarily
public international law,

1570
02:05:25,680 --> 02:05:29,079
UN Charter and everything
associated with it.

1571
02:05:29,080 --> 02:05:31,639
It concerns our relations with Ukraine

1572
02:05:31,640 --> 02:05:33,559
it concerns situation in Crimea,

1573
02:05:33,560 --> 02:05:37,639
it concerns how we position ourselves

1574
02:05:37,640 --> 02:05:39,719
in other regions of the world,

1575
02:05:39,760 --> 02:05:42,039
in regard to fighting
international terrorism.

1576
02:05:42,040 --> 02:05:46,919
It concerns our problems
in the field of global security.


1577
02:05:46,920 --> 02:05:50,279
By that I mean for instance

1578
02:05:50,280 --> 02:05:55,159
our position on USA withdrawal
from the crucial treaty

1579
02:05:55,160 --> 02:05:58,519
on the limitation of
Anti-Ballistic Missile Systems.

1580
02:05:59,080 --> 02:06:02,879
When we start bringing this up,

1581
02:06:02,880 --> 02:06:06,879
when we mention for instance
that there is a threat

1582
02:06:06,880 --> 02:06:09,039
of NATO expanding to the East

1583
02:06:09,240 --> 02:06:12,119
and military infrastructure
approaching our borders

1584
02:06:12,120 --> 02:06:18,639
That's how you go out for confrontation.

1585
02:06:20,160 --> 02:06:24,519
And at this moment

1586
02:06:24,560 --> 02:06:29,719
as we can see, it took the form
of so-called sanctions.

1587
02:06:29,720 --> 02:06:32,759
I was mentioning it
in my address already,

1588
02:06:32,760 --> 02:06:35,639
that it's no more than the attempt

1589
02:06:35,640 --> 02:06:38,039
to restrain Russia's development.

1590
02:06:38,040 --> 02:06:42,279
We see such attempts
during all Russian history,

1591
02:06:42,280 --> 02:06:44,319
from the tzar's times.

1592
02:06:44,320 --> 02:06:47,279
This attempt of restraining Russia

1593
02:06:47,280 --> 02:06:52,799
it's a policy known for centuries.

1594
02:06:52,800 --> 02:06:54,759
There is nothing new.

1595
02:06:54,760 --> 02:06:58,639
However, we shouldn't be too worried.

1596
02:07:24,920 --> 02:07:27,519
was hoisted and
I was singing really loud.

1597
02:07:27,520 --> 02:07:28,959
Almost shouting.

1598
02:07:31,720 --> 02:07:35,559
Because country under this flag won


1599
02:07:35,560 --> 02:07:41,759
and I just wanted to sing
very loud and to shout

1600
02:07:45,880 --> 02:07:50,599
During Olympics and all
these events in Kiev and Ukraine,

1601
02:07:50,640 --> 02:07:54,359
when anti-Putin propaganda
(or even hysteria) started in Kiev,

1602
02:07:54,360 --> 02:07:56,799
Putin is here, he is killing Maidan,

1603
02:07:56,800 --> 02:07:58,239
Putin is shooting our children."

1604
02:07:58,240 --> 02:08:00,039
That's what was happening

1605
02:08:00,200 --> 02:08:04,319
and from a private matter it became
public and even national one,

1606
02:08:04,360 --> 02:08:06,439
and disability to control the situation

1607
02:08:06,440 --> 02:08:08,479
and the way Western
partners were acting.

1608
02:08:08,480 --> 02:08:12,599
And when I saw Putin gritting his teeth

1609
02:08:12,600 --> 02:08:17,279
I suddenly realized that some new
strategy will be launched now.

1610
02:08:17,560 --> 02:08:21,199
Cause there wasn't anything said,

1611
02:08:21,200 --> 02:08:23,999
no glass was returned
on the table this time

1612
02:08:24,000 --> 02:08:26,079
everything was very peaceful and quiet.

1613
02:08:26,080 --> 02:08:29,679
It was clear though that he saw
himself as representative of Russia,

1614
02:08:29,720 --> 02:08:33,839
which was not respected and they
tried to push away and insult.

1615
02:08:33,840 --> 02:08:38,439
It's a feeling of adequacy to the country,

1616
02:08:38,480 --> 02:08:42,959
to the history of this country,

1617
02:08:42,960 --> 02:08:45,159
it's a feeling of a certain mission.

1618
02:08:45,160 --> 02:08:48,119
You start understanding that this is history.

1619
02:08:48,160 --> 02:08:50,599
The most important for us
was to understand

1620
02:08:50,600 --> 02:08:53,279
what do people living in Crimea want.

1621
02:08:53,280 --> 02:08:56,439
Do they want to stay in Ukraine
or to be with Russia?

1622
02:08:56,440 --> 02:08:58,879
And if people do want to return to Russia

1623
02:08:58,880 --> 02:09:02,199
and don't want to be
under the rule of neo-Nazi,

1624
02:09:02,200 --> 02:09:04,759
extreme nationalists and banderovites,

1625
02:09:04,800 --> 02:09:07,759
we don't have a right to desert them then.

1626
02:09:08,360 --> 02:09:11,079
And this is absolutely a matter of principle.

1627
02:09:11,080 --> 02:09:15,399
That's what I was telling
to my partners back then.

1628
02:09:15,400 --> 02:09:17,359
I was telling them

1629
02:09:17,400 --> 02:09:21,159
that this was a crucial issue for us.
people.

1630
02:09:21,200 --> 02:09:24,519
I don't know what kind of interests
you will be defending,

1631
02:09:24,520 --> 02:09:27,119
but we'll go till the end defending ours.

1632
02:09:27,160 --> 02:09:29,519
And this is extremely important.

1633
02:09:29,520 --> 02:09:33,799
Not because we want
to get a piece of the pie.

1634
02:09:33,800 --> 02:09:37,999
And not even because Crimea's
strategic importance in Black Sea region.

1635
02:09:38,040 --> 02:09:42,399
But because it's an element
of historical justice.

1636
02:09:43,640 --> 02:09:45,799
I believe that we did the right thing.

1637
02:09:45,840 --> 02:09:47,559
And I don't regret anything.

1638
02:09:49,960 --> 02:09:52,719
We flew to Crimea for referendum.

1639
02:09:52,760 --> 02:09:54,919
It’s incredible feeling!

1640
02:09:54,920 --> 02:09:58,919
We saw families going out with balloons,

1641
02:09:58,920 --> 02:10:02,719
kids with flags of Russian Federation.

1642
02:10:02,720 --> 02:10:04,839
And all of them are going to elections

1643
02:10:04,840 --> 02:10:06,719
with happy faces.

1644
02:10:06,720 --> 02:10:10,159
I saw sober guys crying
on the square in Simferopol

1645
02:10:10,160 --> 02:10:11,599
Not drunk!

1646
02:10:13,080 --> 02:10:16,199
Crying from the feeling of
incredible happiness,

1647
02:10:16,200 --> 02:10:18,519
that finally they have returned home

1648
02:10:20,120 --> 02:10:25,319
There was a performance
on the fly and we sang.

1649
02:10:26,120 --> 02:10:27,439
Russia,

1650
02:10:27,440 --> 02:10:34,839
from Crimea to Yenisei."

1651
02:10:35,920 --> 02:10:38,239
From Crimea to Yenisei...

1652
02:10:38,240 --> 02:10:40,879
They were so incredibly happy!

1653
02:10:40,880 --> 02:10:42,479
Everybody I have seen.

1654
02:10:46,520 --> 02:10:53,199
After a long hard and exhausting voyage

1655
02:10:53,240 --> 02:10:55,679
Crimea and Sevastopol

1656
02:10:55,680 --> 02:10:58,759
are returning to the home harbor

1657
02:10:58,760 --> 02:11:00,319
to the home shores

1658
02:11:00,320 --> 02:11:04,039
to the permanent registration harbor.
to Russia!

1659
02:11:06,640 --> 02:11:10,319
RUSSIA! RUSSIA! RUSSIA!

1660
02:11:12,800 --> 02:11:15,799
Great! He is simple, cool. I like him.


1661
02:11:15,920 --> 02:11:22,039
I think he is tough enough, but... I think if you are a
president of a big strong country

1662
02:11:22,040 --> 02:11:28,199
you must be big and strong the same way as the
country.

1663
02:11:28,760 --> 02:11:29,919
How many pull-ups do you do?

1664
02:11:30,320 --> 02:11:31,879
50. - Really?

1665
02:11:33,360 --> 02:11:35,999
preparing the same way. - These are our people.

1666
02:11:38,800 --> 02:11:44,519
That generation which grew up during Putin times
is the majority of our society

1667
02:11:45,800 --> 02:11:51,159
which will lead Russia further next 50 years.

1668
02:11:52,160 --> 02:11:57,959
This is the generation which step by step have
learnt to say the word 'patriotism',

1669
02:11:58,280 --> 02:12:04,879
This is the generation which have learnt to wear
dresses with Russian flag, and be proud of it.

1670
02:12:06,440 --> 02:12:13,519
This is the generation which knows that this, this
and this in our country

1671
02:12:13,520 --> 02:12:16,359
is much better than anywhere else in the world.

1672
02:12:21,440 --> 02:12:25,399
What was 15 years ago? Disbelief and ruins in
heads

1673
02:12:26,120 --> 02:12:33,039
Then a hope, and today unlimited trust that we are
building the state correctly

1674
02:12:33,600 --> 02:12:37,399
For these 15 years not simply many things have
changed.

1675
02:12:37,640 --> 02:12:39,159
We have changed completely.

1676
02:12:39,640 --> 02:12:41,399
Our society has become different.

1677
02:12:42,280 --> 02:12:49,359
We can see a new, powerful, independent Russia
able to protect itself.

1678
02:13:01,720 --> 02:13:07,839
I went to Vladimir and to Suzdal to see the sights.

1679
02:13:09,440 --> 02:13:16,239
And in one of Suzdal monasteries I wrote a note for
health.

1680
02:13:16,800 --> 02:13:18,359
I was recognized.

1681
02:13:20,840 --> 02:13:22,639
Mother Superior of the monastery came up to me,

1682
02:13:24,400 --> 02:13:31,239
and says: Aleksey Borisovych, do you know that for
the last year

1683
02:13:32,360 --> 02:13:39,919
a number of notes for health of President of Russian
Federation Putin increased drastically?

1684
02:13:48,160 --> 02:13:53,999
She says: They write like this in notes for health
President of Russian Federation.

1685
02:14:08,880 --> 02:14:13,159
Vladimir Vladimirovych Putin visited our monastery
on September 9th 2005.

1686
02:14:13,400 --> 02:14:18,919
It was the first visit of head of Russian state in the
history of Athos.

1687
02:14:20,760 --> 02:14:24,559
After the ceremonial welcome in the capital city of
Athos, Karyes,

1688
02:14:24,560 --> 02:14:28,399
Vladimir Vladimirovych took the driver’s seat

1689
02:14:29,080 --> 02:14:31,399
and drove to Iveron monastery.

1690
02:14:31,720 --> 02:14:35,719
And just at the exit there was a mule of Athos
standing

1691
02:14:38,320 --> 02:14:45,959
First there was a police car. then I drove on my car,
and after me President drove

1692
02:14:46,120 --> 02:14:55,719
And just before him this mule, for some reason, ran
out to the road and ran strictly in the middle of the

1693
02:14:56,200 --> 02:15:00,279
He tried to take to the left, and the mule took to the
left, to the right - and that to the right, such

1694
02:15:00,640 --> 02:15:05,199
So, the President understood that something was
wrong, and he followed the mule.

1695
02:15:06,240 --> 02:15:08,279
I must tell you: there was nothing like this in Athos.

1696
02:15:08,520 --> 02:15:15,159
So that a mule or a donkey, as we call it, ran in
front of any car and didn't allow to bypass...

1697
02:15:15,160 --> 02:15:18,799
there was no such case, never.

1698
02:15:19,160 --> 02:15:25,759
But when on the way back we were driving, a car of
police passed by, then I drove by,

1699
02:15:25,800 --> 02:15:31,679
we saw that the mule stayed at the same place and
watched us, as if waiting for us.

1700
02:15:32,160 --> 02:15:36,479
It passed us by without problems, like nothing
happened.

1701
02:15:36,520 --> 02:15:39,439
We stopped and looked back what would be next

1702
02:15:40,000 --> 02:15:43,359
As soon as the car of Vladimir Vladimirovych
appeared from the turn,

1703
02:15:43,760 --> 02:15:47,999
this mule, as if was waiting, ran out to the road at
once, turned around

1704
02:15:48,160 --> 02:15:50,799
police car and my car were watching it,

1705
02:15:51,520 --> 02:15:55,199
and it started to run uphill which is harder.

1706
02:15:55,800 --> 02:16:00,239
Again the same way, in the middle of the road
ahead of the President's car.

1707
02:16:00,480 --> 02:16:04,959
When going uphill, the mule, maybe because of
fatigue, slacked down

1708
02:16:05,080 --> 02:16:09,559
Vladimir Vladimirovych slacked down, he didn't
bypass it. But the mule broke in pace.

1709
02:16:10,000 --> 02:16:14,759
And it could be seen that it ran out, Vladimir
Vladimirovych took a little to the left.

1710
02:16:14,760 --> 02:16:20,239
started to bypass it, reached it and stopped near it,
it was recorded from the car.

1711
02:16:20,480 --> 02:16:22,679
And the mule also stopped stone-still at once.

1712
02:16:22,960 --> 02:16:29,319
And several minutes, I can’t tell you exactly, I didn't
count... we saw that they were standing.

1713
02:16:29,680 --> 02:16:32,239
Honestly saying, I can’t explain it.

1714
02:16:32,559 --> 02:16:40,279
Certainly, I want to notice one thing: if it happened
it is a certain sign of Holy Mother, patroness of

1715
02:16:40,719 --> 02:16:45,398
It was a certain sign to the President. But I think it
is easier for him to understand it.

1716
02:16:51,760 --> 02:16:56,199
He never comes unprepared for any events.

1717
02:16:58,360 --> 02:17:03,359
When he comes to such events like a press
conference or live stream,

1718
02:17:03,400 --> 02:17:06,558
he prepares for many many days.

1719
02:17:10,320 --> 02:17:17,599
He has 100% concentration, 100%. Every time...
tension..

1720
02:17:17,600 --> 02:17:22,119
maybe it has to do with inner concentration

1721
02:17:23,520 --> 02:17:29,519
Because Presidents come to speak such
Presidents like Putin,

1722
02:17:29,520 --> 02:17:31,839
the price of his words is too high.

1723
02:17:44,600 --> 02:17:48,079
Vladimir Vladimirovych, things that happen to our
economy now is a payback for the Crimea,

1724
02:17:48,080 --> 02:17:50,199
maybe it's time to tell frankly about it?

1725
02:17:51,400 --> 02:17:54,478
No, it is not a payback for the Crimea.

1726
02:17:55,000 --> 02:18:00,999
This is a payback... or to be precise, it is a
payment for our natural wish

1727
02:18:01,040 --> 02:18:07,119
to save ourselves like a nation, like a civilization,
like a state.

1728
02:18:07,400 --> 02:18:17,239
I made an example at so called Valdai club and
recalled our most recognized symbol

1729
02:18:17,240 --> 02:18:21,079
a bear, who guards its taiga.

1730
02:18:21,440 --> 02:18:28,999
You know what if I continue such analogues... the
idea comes to my head as well.

1731
02:18:29,120 --> 02:18:34,558
maybe our teddy-bear must sit calmly, not run pigs
and gilts around taiga

1732
02:18:35,639 --> 02:18:41,519
and eat berries, honey, maybe it will be left alone.
They will not leave it alone.

1733
02:18:42,000 --> 02:18:45,398
Because they will always try to enchain it.

1734
02:18:46,400 --> 02:18:51,718
And as soon as they enchain it, they will tear away
both teeth and claws.

1735
02:18:52,360 --> 02:18:58,079
And then, after this, as soon as tear away teeth and
claws, the teddy-bear is not required at all.

1736
02:18:58,520 --> 02:19:01,159
They will make a stuffed animal, that's it. That's why
the matter is not in the Crimea.

1737
02:19:01,440 --> 02:19:07,558
The matter is that we protect our independence, our
sovereignty and the right for existence.

1738
02:19:07,559 --> 02:19:09,599
This is what we all must understand.

1739
02:19:09,719 --> 02:19:13,638
When the Crimea started and when the spirit of
patriotism appeared

1740
02:19:13,639 --> 02:19:16,878
it suddenly turned out that we have an army.

1741
02:19:18,240 --> 02:19:20,919
It suddenly turned out that we have a military
industrial complex.

1742
02:19:21,480 --> 02:19:26,759
It suddenly turned out that despite all statements,
including liberal members of your team,

1743
02:19:26,760 --> 02:19:31,318
that we shouldn't spend money for defense, it was
unexpectedly, unnoticeably

1744
02:19:31,840 --> 02:19:35,439
that the military industrial complex was formed
again to be proud of?

1745
02:19:35,600 --> 02:19:39,119
If we didn't have the military industrial complex and
army

1746
02:19:39,120 --> 02:19:44,359
we couldn't overcome all problems concerning fight
with international terrorism.

1747
02:19:44,879 --> 02:19:49,279
Even at the most difficult times from the point of
view of economy in the beginning of 2000s,

1748
02:19:49,320 --> 02:19:55,039
we did not simply gather an army, and then, I have
already told about it,

1749
02:19:55,320 --> 02:20:01,199
with total number of 1 million 300 thousand people I
hardly gathered 50 000...

1750
02:20:02,400 --> 02:20:10,519
I took troops from the Far East, marines from the
Northern fleet, we made up 50 000 ready for fight.

1751
02:20:11,640 --> 02:20:13,279
Now it is a completely different story.

1752
02:20:13,879 --> 02:20:22,319
Material conditions of the armed forces until present
was just poor, both moral, and material.

1753
02:20:22,720 --> 02:20:28,279
You know, concerning this, I would like to use this
opportunity, as they say in such cases,

1754
02:20:28,720 --> 02:20:35,119
again to say thanks to all our soldiers who at that
time difficult for the country

1755
02:20:35,560 --> 02:20:39,878
saved the country on their shoulders, with empty
pockets,

1756
02:20:39,879 --> 02:20:47,079
and I would say in miserable conditions of the
armed forces. I highly appreciate it!

1757
02:20:51,280 --> 02:20:55,759
the famous 6th squadron of 76th air assault
division...

1758
02:20:55,800 --> 02:21:02,439
in 2000 around our 100 troopers against 1000-1200

1759
02:21:04,200 --> 02:21:06,279
At that time there were such gangs in Chechnya.

1760
02:21:08,760 --> 02:21:09,958
The fight was completely unequal.

1761
02:21:15,879 --> 02:21:24,079
My son was a commander and guys told that they
heard all messages.

1762
02:21:24,360 --> 02:21:32,999
His last words were: Drawing the fire on me.
Farewell, pals.

1763
02:21:36,520 --> 02:21:54,759
Their fight lasted around one day and ended with 6
alive from 90 guys, and 84 were lost.

1764
02:21:59,760 --> 02:22:04,079
We made the decision, President made the
decision to visit this place.

1765
02:22:04,400 --> 02:22:06,999
We didn’t control this area at that time.

1766
02:22:07,200 --> 02:22:10,039
When the President flew away, it was still calm.

1767
02:22:10,080 --> 02:22:17,199
But when special forces were leaving this altitude,
fighters moved towards this attitude.

1768
02:22:17,760 --> 02:22:25,039
It was not your fault that the country appeared in
such conditions that it is now.

1769
02:22:26,560 --> 02:22:37,079
But we are happy that there are such people whom
you raised, with whom you lived.

1770
02:22:39,480 --> 02:22:42,399
Who stood on the way of further collapse of the
country.

1771
02:22:49,120 --> 02:22:51,039
And anyway somebody had to do it.

1772
02:22:51,720 --> 02:22:58,079
After the 10th anniversary I phoned everybody,
found all addresses.

1773
02:23:00,160 --> 02:23:06,958
Found out all problems, of all, what and who had,
what and who needed.

1774
02:23:08,080 --> 02:23:11,439
It was a set of papers this thick.

1775
02:23:12,280 --> 02:23:18,279
In ten days I received a phone call: this set of
papers got to Vladimir Vladimirovych.

1776
02:23:19,000 --> 02:23:20,559
He wants to meet you.

1777
02:23:20,760 --> 02:23:29,559
And every governor visited personally in each family,
found out all problems, everything was solved,

1778
02:23:29,800 --> 02:23:39,199
so that everything was made before this meeting
which was appointed with the President in Moscow.

1779
02:23:39,640 --> 02:23:47,919
Here, you know, the attitude to those parents who
are left without their children.

1780
02:23:48,600 --> 02:23:53,919
Our children, they all gave the oath, that's why they
knew how it could end.

1781
02:23:54,360 --> 02:23:55,599
This famous fight.

1782
02:23:57,680 --> 02:24:02,639
To my mind, it was already crucial in many aspects
The the course of Chechen campaign.

1783
02:24:03,760 --> 02:24:11,799
Because fighters, terrorists, who fought against us, I
think, after this fight, understood

1784
02:24:13,080 --> 02:24:18,359
that they would fail to break the fighting spirit and
the will of our army.

1785
02:24:23,040 --> 02:24:29,719
Today army is certainly far from what it was 15
years ago.

1786
02:24:31,120 --> 02:24:36,119
The President announces and gives command to
make a spot check, for example, Far Eastern

1787
02:24:39,120 --> 02:24:44,559
And we raise 156 000 soldiers within hours.

1788
02:24:46,000 --> 02:24:51,359
This is thousands of armored vehicles, hundreds of
air crafts and ships.

1789
02:24:52,920 --> 02:24:55,399
Number of exercises increased manyfold

1790
02:24:57,959 --> 02:25:00,159
In one word: the shell took off.

1791
02:25:02,840 --> 02:25:07,999
The army felt itself like army. Officers started to
respect themselves.

1792
02:25:10,840 --> 02:25:14,399
The contract service has become attractive and
prestigious.

1793
02:25:14,680 --> 02:25:19,599
If there is no army, strong army, all the rest may not
be required.

1794
02:25:20,240 --> 02:25:22,199
And this will be not our country.

1795
02:25:22,800 --> 02:25:24,279
Moments of absolute happiness?

1796
02:25:25,080 --> 02:25:29,079
Oh, it’s hard to tell you.

1797
02:25:30,080 --> 02:25:35,119
I can tell that in general we managed..., and
everything together.

1798
02:25:36,080 --> 02:25:41,319
All together it may cause some satisfaction

1799
02:25:42,160 --> 02:25:45,279
when you understand where we were and what we
have done.

1800
02:25:45,560 --> 02:25:47,799
Well, let’s start with the country: we saved the
country.

1801
02:25:48,520 --> 02:25:50,759
Raised GDP 2 fold.

1802
02:25:51,360 --> 02:25:58,958
In comparison with 1999, the expenses of the
Federal budget have risen 22 times,

1803
02:25:58,959 --> 02:26:01,878
if we look at 2014.

1804
02:26:02,240 --> 02:26:06,439
Real income of the population risen 3 fold.

1805
02:26:07,240 --> 02:26:13,639
The number of our people who lives behind the
poverty line was almost 42 mln people.

1806
02:26:13,920 --> 02:26:20,839
And now we have almost in 3 times, 2,8 times less
of people living behind the poverty line.

1807
02:26:21,440 --> 02:26:27,958
All this together allowed us to solve one more very
complicated task.

1808
02:26:28,480 --> 02:26:41,639
Look, in 1999 and in 2000 the natural decrease of
the population was 929 000 people, to my mind.

1809
02:26:42,320 --> 02:26:43,639
I.e. almost 1 million.

1810
02:26:44,920 --> 02:26:48,279
The difference between deaths and births was 1
million in favour of the first.

1811
02:26:48,959 --> 02:26:53,999
If we lost 1 million every year, i.e. Russia, it is a
catastrophe.

1812
02:26:54,800 --> 02:26:56,799
Russia would slowly stop to exist.

1813
02:26:57,160 --> 02:27:01,119
We did not only stabilize and break this situation,

1814
02:27:01,160 --> 02:27:04,359
and two years in a row we have the natural
increase.

1815
02:27:04,800 --> 02:27:06,079
Nobody believed in it.

1816
02:27:07,080 --> 02:27:13,239
This is not due to mother capital and other systems
of maternity and childhood support.

1817
02:27:13,560 --> 02:27:17,878
This is due to the general situation. I repeat it gives
more confidence to people

1818
02:27:17,879 --> 02:27:21,439
in that they can have more children, raise and
educate them, and so on.

1819
02:27:23,760 --> 02:27:28,639
This is some kind of a multiplier indeed of what has
been done.

1820
02:27:30,360 --> 02:27:39,799
Maybe, all this together, when thinking about, when
analysing it, this can't but bring satisfaction.

1821
02:27:43,440 --> 02:27:45,799
For citizens of Nagin in Northern Ossetia

1822
02:27:45,800 --> 02:27:49,159
the commissioning of a new sports complex became
a real holiday.

1823
02:27:50,000 --> 02:27:54,559
The platform is 130 m above the sea level. This is
like two Spasskiy towers.

1824
02:27:54,560 --> 02:27:57,759
The area is just a bit bigger than of a standard

football field

1825
02:27:58,600 --> 02:28:03,559
Specialists say: There is no such center with such
equipment in Europe

1826
02:28:05,400 --> 02:28:09,039
The new hydro-electric power station on the Angara
has become the most up-to-date hydro-energy of

1827
02:28:09,200 --> 02:28:11,479
Besides, all equipment is produced by national
companies.

1828
02:28:12,320 --> 02:28:17,559
From today the Russky island is called student's
capital of the Far East.

1829
02:28:20,000 --> 02:28:25,999
The Northern stream starts from here. The big road
of Russian gas to the West starts from here.

1830
02:28:27,360 --> 02:28:32,039
Russia, in Olympic Sochi, at Olympic level, meets
Formula 1.

1831
02:28:32,480 --> 02:28:34,958
The legendary auto race took place for the first time
in Russia.

1832
02:28:35,120 --> 02:28:38,159
Today here there are the best pilots of the world.

1833
02:28:40,480 --> 02:28:46,399
- The church has its understanding of what authority
must be.

1834
02:28:47,640 --> 02:28:53,199
At the same time, this understanding is expressed
not by my close predecessors, not by me.

1835
02:28:53,920 --> 02:28:57,239
It exists during the whole history of the church.

1836
02:28:58,560 --> 02:29:03,799
The church associates the authority, especially
the top representatives of the authority,

1837
02:29:03,800 --> 02:29:06,639
with the must-have requirement.

1838
02:29:07,240 --> 02:29:13,159
full devotion of themselves to that service which they
are are called for.

1839
02:29:13,800 --> 02:29:17,439
You can't say that this person is working as a
President.

1840
02:29:17,760 --> 02:29:23,559
He serves in his country as a President. I think it
speaks for itself.

1841
02:29:30,320 --> 02:29:32,679
Vladimir Vladimirovych, 15 years of Presidency,

1842
02:29:32,680 --> 02:29:36,719
what does a person who decides to be a President
have to give up?

1843
02:29:42,000 --> 02:29:47,079
Some normal everyday life.

1844
02:29:48,360 --> 02:29:53,799
It is inevitable. It is impossible to live like a normal
person.

1845
02:29:54,200 --> 02:29:58,599
You can’t go to the cinema, can’t go just like this to
the theatre, can't go shopping

1846
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which is also not deprived of certain sense and
satisfaction.

1847
02:30:03,320 --> 02:30:07,239
But these are not big losses in comparison with...

1848
02:30:12,560 --> 02:30:18,679
what the fate and the people give to those persons
who appear in my place.

1849
02:30:19,920 --> 02:30:25,359
And this is to make maximum contribution,
everything what depends on me or on us

1850
02:30:25,360 --> 02:30:30,919
or those who work at such positions for one’s own
country, people.

1851
02:30:31,280 --> 02:30:32,359
It compensates everything.