1 00:00:06,180 --> 00:00:08,080 [ニューヨーク クローズアップ] 2 00:00:08,440 --> 00:00:09,820 エリック・ウィンクラー/アーティスト 3 00:00:09,820 --> 00:00:11,280 エリック:ブライアンにはハロウィンパーティで会ったんだ 4 00:00:11,280 --> 00:00:12,240 ブライアン・ザニスニック/アーティスト 5 00:00:12,240 --> 00:00:13,460 エリック:ブライアンはアートをやっていて 6 00:00:13,469 --> 00:00:14,549 僕もアートをやっていて 7 00:00:14,549 --> 00:00:16,469 二人ともニュージャージーで育った 8 00:00:16,469 --> 00:00:19,449 同じような境遇で育ったんだ 9 00:00:22,700 --> 00:00:24,720 ブライアン・ザニスニック&エリック・ウィンクラー: アニメーションでの会話 10 00:00:26,740 --> 00:00:27,940 おまえは泳いで来い 俺は芸術作品を作る! 11 00:00:32,880 --> 00:00:34,640 エリック:それから二人でコミックを始めた 12 00:00:35,239 --> 00:00:36,739 理由は… 13 00:00:36,739 --> 00:00:39,699 ブライアンは何か描きたかったんだと思う 14 00:00:40,260 --> 00:00:41,840 でもできないんだ 彼には 15 00:00:42,260 --> 00:00:44,480 ブライアンの創る彫刻は絵みたいだ 16 00:00:44,489 --> 00:00:46,789 何かやってそれを消して 17 00:00:46,789 --> 00:00:50,349 やり方は絵を描くのに似てる 18 00:00:51,800 --> 00:00:53,880 彼はニュージャージーの影響を受けたイタリア人 19 00:00:53,880 --> 00:00:56,740 少しだけユダヤ人の影響が入ったような 20 00:00:57,340 --> 00:00:59,699 つまり要約すると 21 00:00:59,699 --> 00:01:01,649 よく手振りが入って 22 00:01:01,649 --> 00:01:02,499 話すことは 23 00:01:03,350 --> 00:01:04,809 色々なクレイジーなこと 24 00:01:05,240 --> 00:01:06,560 長年友人だから 25 00:01:06,570 --> 00:01:09,810 何かとんでもないことを言うだろうと思ってた 26 00:01:09,810 --> 00:01:11,170 それで聞かなくちゃいけなかった 27 00:01:11,170 --> 00:01:12,930 「どれが本当のこと?」って 28 00:01:13,360 --> 00:01:14,220 ブライアン:わからない 29 00:01:14,220 --> 00:01:15,700 変なインフルエンザにかかって 30 00:01:15,710 --> 00:01:16,979 頭がガンガンした 31 00:01:16,979 --> 00:01:18,200 ほとんど良くなったけど 32 00:01:18,200 --> 00:01:19,620 ちょっと混乱してる 33 00:01:19,979 --> 00:01:21,509 もしかしたら… 34 00:01:21,509 --> 00:01:23,670 今も脳の周りに水が溜まっていってるのかも 35 00:01:23,670 --> 00:01:25,610 それで時々家で 36 00:01:26,060 --> 00:01:26,850 一人座って 37 00:01:26,850 --> 00:01:27,930 こう言うんだ 38 00:01:27,930 --> 00:01:29,250 「僕はブライアン・ザニスニック 39 00:01:29,920 --> 00:01:31,480 ニューヨークのリッジウッドに住んでる 40 00:01:32,509 --> 00:01:33,469 アーティストだ」 41 00:01:34,380 --> 00:01:36,399 自分のことを繰り返し言う 42 00:01:36,399 --> 00:01:37,979 自分のことを知ってれば 43 00:01:37,979 --> 00:01:39,340 混乱しないし 44 00:01:39,340 --> 00:01:40,310 もし混乱しても 45 00:01:40,310 --> 00:01:42,409 違うって反論できる 46 00:01:42,409 --> 00:01:44,409 混乱してる人は自分が混乱してるのに気づかないから 47 00:01:44,720 --> 00:01:47,440 でも脳の周りに水が溜まっていってると思う 48 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:52,360 次のコミックで 49 00:01:52,369 --> 00:01:55,049 何をするか考えないといけない 50 00:01:55,049 --> 00:01:57,130 できるのは 51 00:01:57,130 --> 00:02:00,850 現在起こってることについて 52 00:02:00,850 --> 00:02:02,370 エリック:考えてたこととか? 53 00:02:03,060 --> 00:02:04,520 ブライアン:(ため息)どうだろう… 54 00:02:04,530 --> 00:02:06,310 エリック:作ってる作品はどうなった? 55 00:02:06,310 --> 00:02:07,280 ブライアン:今のプロジェクトで 56 00:02:07,280 --> 00:02:09,040 図書館を作ってるんだけど 57 00:02:09,040 --> 00:02:12,340 内容はフィリップ・ロスがもう少しのところで… 58 00:02:12,340 --> 00:02:13,420 エリック:裁判を起こそうとしたよね 59 00:02:13,420 --> 00:02:15,100 ブライアン:そうそう 裁判 60 00:02:15,100 --> 00:02:17,080 7番目の裁判 配役 フィリップ・ロス:死神 61 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:24,720 (ブライアン、ロスの真似をする)私はロス 62 00:02:24,720 --> 00:02:28,400 おまえの側にしばらくいるよ 63 00:02:28,400 --> 00:02:30,300 弁護士も一緒だ 64 00:02:30,300 --> 00:02:31,419 ブライアン:嫌だ! 65 00:02:31,420 --> 00:02:32,379 頭から出ていけ! 66 00:02:32,379 --> 00:02:35,010 2012年に 67 00:02:35,010 --> 00:02:37,319 アブロンズ アートセンターでパフォーマンスをしていたんだ 68 00:02:37,319 --> 00:02:40,950 何千もの作品の真ん中で 69 00:02:40,950 --> 00:02:44,070 20フィートの高さのガラスの箱があって 70 00:02:44,400 --> 00:02:45,950 そこでフィリップ・ロスの小説を手に持ってた 71 00:02:45,950 --> 00:02:47,120 声を出して読んでたわけじゃなくて 72 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:48,320 ただ手に持ってたんだ 73 00:02:48,320 --> 00:02:50,300 ロスはそれを知って 74 00:02:50,310 --> 00:02:52,560 訴えようとした 75 00:02:52,560 --> 00:02:54,480 76 00:02:54,480 --> 00:02:56,540 77 00:02:56,540 --> 00:02:57,020 78 00:02:57,020 --> 00:02:57,959 79 00:02:57,959 --> 00:02:59,099 80 00:02:59,099 --> 00:03:00,599 81 00:03:00,599 --> 00:03:01,219 82 00:03:01,220 --> 00:03:01,760 83 00:03:01,760 --> 00:03:05,040 84 00:03:05,040 --> 00:03:07,269 85 00:03:07,269 --> 00:03:10,370 86 00:03:10,370 --> 00:03:11,420 87 00:03:12,940 --> 00:03:13,600 88 00:03:13,600 --> 00:03:15,940 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