1 00:00:06,180 --> 00:00:08,080 Close up a Nueva York 2 00:00:08,440 --> 00:00:09,820 Eric Winkler, artista 3 00:00:09,820 --> 00:00:11,280 [WINKLER] Conocí a Brian en una fiesta de Halloween 4 00:00:11,280 --> 00:00:12,240 [BRYAN ZANISKIK, artist] 5 00:00:12,240 --> 00:00:13,460 [WINKLER] Estaba trabajando en las artes. 6 00:00:13,469 --> 00:00:14,549 Trabajo en las artes. 7 00:00:14,549 --> 00:00:16,469 Ambos crecimos en Nueva Jersey. 8 00:00:16,469 --> 00:00:19,449 Basicamente, tuvimos el mismo tipo de vida. 9 00:00:22,700 --> 00:00:26,740 [BRYAN ZANISIK & ERIC WINKLER'S Conversacion Animada ] 10 00:00:26,740 --> 00:00:27,940 [¡Vas a nadar! ¡Estoy haciendo arte!] 11 00:00:32,880 --> 00:00:34,640 [WINKLER] Y luego empezamos a hacer los comics 12 00:00:35,239 --> 00:00:36,739 porque 13 00:00:36,739 --> 00:00:39,699 Creo que Bryan siempre ha querido ser capaz para dibujar algo. 14 00:00:40,260 --> 00:00:41,840 No puede hacerlo, sin embargo. 15 00:00:42,260 --> 00:00:44,480 Sus esculturas son como dibujos. 16 00:00:44,489 --> 00:00:46,789 Intenta cosas y borra cosas. 17 00:00:46,789 --> 00:00:50,349 La forma en que trabaja es muy similar al dibujo. 18 00:00:51,800 --> 00:00:53,880 Es italiano a través de Nueva Jersey, 19 00:00:53,880 --> 00:00:56,740 Por medio de querer ser levemente judío. 20 00:00:57,340 --> 00:00:59,699 Eso se convierte en básicamente 21 00:00:59,699 --> 00:01:01,649 Él usando sus manos mucho, 22 00:01:01,649 --> 00:01:03,350 hablando de 23 00:01:03,350 --> 00:01:04,809 todo tipo de cosas locas. 24 00:01:05,240 --> 00:01:06,560 Después de años de amistad, 25 00:01:06,570 --> 00:01:09,810 sé que me va a contar una historia loca 26 00:01:09,810 --> 00:01:11,170 y voy a tener que decir, 27 00:01:11,170 --> 00:01:12,930 "¿Qué parte era realmente verdadera?" 28 00:01:13,360 --> 00:01:14,220 [ZANISNIK] No sé. 29 00:01:14,220 --> 00:01:15,700 Tuve una gripe muy rara. 30 00:01:15,710 --> 00:01:16,979 Me dolía la cabeza 31 00:01:16,979 --> 00:01:18,200 Estoy mejor, pero estoy 32 00:01:18,200 --> 00:01:19,620 realmente confundido ahora. 33 00:01:19,979 --> 00:01:21,509 No lo sé, pero ... 34 00:01:21,509 --> 00:01:23,670 puede ser que sufro de edema cerebral 35 00:01:23,670 --> 00:01:25,610 mientras hablamos. Y a veces en casa, 36 00:01:26,060 --> 00:01:26,850 solo 37 00:01:26,850 --> 00:01:27,930 y de repente digo 38 00:01:27,930 --> 00:01:29,250 "Soy Bryan Zanisnik'" 39 00:01:29,920 --> 00:01:31,480 "Vivo en Ridgewood, New York" 40 00:01:32,509 --> 00:01:33,469 "Soy artista." 41 00:01:34,380 --> 00:01:36,399 Y repito hechos sobre mí mismo 42 00:01:36,399 --> 00:01:37,979 porque creo que si conozco 43 00:01:37,979 --> 00:01:39,340 estas cosas y no estoy confundido 44 00:01:39,340 --> 00:01:40,310 Podría hacer el argumento 45 00:01:40,310 --> 00:01:42,409 Que si creo que estoy confundido, no estoy 46 00:01:42,409 --> 00:01:44,409 Porque las personas confundidas no saben que están confundidos. 47 00:01:44,720 --> 00:01:47,440 Pero, todavía estoy bastante seguro de que sufro de agua en el cerebro. 48 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:52,360 - Deberíamos pensar en lo que queremos hacer 49 00:01:52,369 --> 00:01:55,049 - nuestros próximos comics sobre. 50 00:01:55,049 --> 00:01:57,130 - Debido a que podríamos 51 00:01:57,130 --> 00:02:00,850 --prestar atención a cosas más actuales que están pasando. 52 00:02:00,850 --> 00:02:02,370 [WINKLER] ¿Qué estabas pensando? 53 00:02:03,060 --> 00:02:04,520 [ZANISNIK] [SIGHS] No lo sé, ya sabes ... 54 00:02:04,530 --> 00:02:06,310 [WINKLER] Entonces, ¿qué está pasando en el trabajo ahora? 55 00:02:06,310 --> 00:02:07,280 [ZANISNIK] Así que, sí, estoy trabajando en este proyecto. 56 00:02:07,280 --> 00:02:09,040 Estoy construyendo esta biblioteca. 57 00:02:09,040 --> 00:02:12,340 Sabes, todo se basa en el tiempo que Philip Roth casi ... 58 00:02:12,340 --> 00:02:13,420 [WINKLER] Trató de demandarte ... 59 00:02:13,420 --> 00:02:15,100 Sí, Roth intentó demandarme. 60 00:02:15,100 --> 00:02:17,080 ["The Seventh Lawsuit" protagonizada por Philip Roth como Death] 61 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:24,720 - [ZANISNIK, IMPERSONANTE ROTH] Soy Roth, 62 00:02:24,720 --> 00:02:28,400 - Estaré a tu lado mucho tiempo, 63 00:02:28,400 --> 00:02:30,300 - como lo harán mis abogados. 64 00:02:30,300 --> 00:02:31,419 --[ZANISNIK] No! No! 65 00:02:31,420 --> 00:02:32,379 - ¡Sal de mi cerebro! 66 00:02:32,379 --> 00:02:35,010 Por lo tanto, en 2012, 67 00:02:35,010 --> 00:02:37,319 Estaba haciendo este espectáculo en Abrons Art Center 68 00:02:37,319 --> 00:02:40,950 Donde, en medio de estos miles de objetos, 69 00:02:40,950 --> 00:02:44,070 Había un recipiente de vidrio de doce pies de altura, 70 00:02:44,400 --> 00:02:45,950 Y entonces estaba sosteniendo esta novela de Philip Roth. 71 00:02:45,950 --> 00:02:47,120 Ni siquiera lo estaba leyendo en voz alta, 72 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:48,320 Sólo lo estaba sosteniendo. 73 00:02:48,320 --> 00:02:50,300 74 00:02:50,310 --> 00:02:52,560 75 00:02:52,560 --> 00:02:54,480 76 00:02:54,480 --> 00:02:56,540 77 00:02:56,540 --> 00:02:57,020 78 00:02:57,020 --> 00:02:57,959 79 00:02:57,959 --> 00:02:59,099 80 00:02:59,099 --> 00:03:00,599 81 00:03:00,599 --> 00:03:01,219 82 00:03:01,220 --> 00:03:01,760 83 00:03:01,760 --> 00:03:05,040 84 00:03:05,040 --> 00:03:07,269 85 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