[Script Info] Title: [Events] Format: Layer, Start, End, Style, Name, MarginL, MarginR, MarginV, Effect, Text Dialogue: 0,0:00:06.18,0:00:08.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,["New York Close Up"] Dialogue: 0,0:00:08.44,0:00:09.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Eric Winkler, artist] Dialogue: 0,0:00:09.82,0:00:11.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[WINKLER] I met Bryan at a Halloween party. Dialogue: 0,0:00:11.28,0:00:12.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Bryan Zanisnik, artist] Dialogue: 0,0:00:12.24,0:00:13.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[WINKLER] He was in the arts, Dialogue: 0,0:00:13.47,0:00:14.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm in the arts. Dialogue: 0,0:00:14.55,0:00:16.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We both grew up in New Jersey. Dialogue: 0,0:00:16.47,0:00:19.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We basically had the same kind of life. Dialogue: 0,0:00:22.70,0:00:26.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,["Bryan Zanisnik & Eric Winkler's Animated\NConversation"] Dialogue: 0,0:00:26.74,0:00:27.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[You go swimming! I'm making art!] Dialogue: 0,0:00:32.88,0:00:34.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[WINKLER] And then we started doing the comics Dialogue: 0,0:00:35.24,0:00:36.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,just because... Dialogue: 0,0:00:36.74,0:00:39.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think Bryan has always wanted to be able\Nto draw something. Dialogue: 0,0:00:40.26,0:00:41.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He can't do it, though. Dialogue: 0,0:00:42.26,0:00:44.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,His sculptures are like drawings. Dialogue: 0,0:00:44.49,0:00:46.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He tries things and erases things. Dialogue: 0,0:00:46.79,0:00:50.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The way he works is very similar to drawing. Dialogue: 0,0:00:51.80,0:00:53.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He's Italian by way of New Jersey, Dialogue: 0,0:00:53.88,0:00:56.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,by way of wanting to be mildly Jewish. Dialogue: 0,0:00:57.34,0:00:59.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That wraps up into basically Dialogue: 0,0:00:59.70,0:01:01.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,him using his hands a lot, Dialogue: 0,0:01:01.65,0:01:03.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,just talking about, like, Dialogue: 0,0:01:03.35,0:01:04.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,all kinds of crazy things. Dialogue: 0,0:01:05.24,0:01:06.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,After years of friendship, Dialogue: 0,0:01:06.57,0:01:09.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I know that he's going to tell me a crazy story Dialogue: 0,0:01:09.81,0:01:11.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I'm going to have to say, Dialogue: 0,0:01:11.17,0:01:12.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"So which part was really true?" Dialogue: 0,0:01:13.36,0:01:14.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[ZANISNIK] Yeah, I don't know. Dialogue: 0,0:01:14.22,0:01:15.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I got this, like, really weird flu. Dialogue: 0,0:01:15.71,0:01:16.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,My head started pounding me. Dialogue: 0,0:01:16.98,0:01:18.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm mostly better, but I'm just, like, Dialogue: 0,0:01:18.20,0:01:19.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,really confused now. Dialogue: 0,0:01:19.98,0:01:21.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I don't know, but... Dialogue: 0,0:01:21.51,0:01:23.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there could be fluid building around my brain\Nas we speak. Dialogue: 0,0:01:23.67,0:01:25.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And sometimes, I'll be, like, sitting at home, Dialogue: 0,0:01:26.06,0:01:26.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,all by myself, Dialogue: 0,0:01:26.85,0:01:27.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I'd just say, Dialogue: 0,0:01:27.93,0:01:29.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"I'm Bryan Zanisnik." Dialogue: 0,0:01:29.92,0:01:31.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"I live in Ridgewood, New York." Dialogue: 0,0:01:32.51,0:01:33.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"I'm an artist." Dialogue: 0,0:01:34.38,0:01:36.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I kind of just repeat facts about myself, Dialogue: 0,0:01:36.40,0:01:37.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because I think if I know these things Dialogue: 0,0:01:37.98,0:01:39.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I'm not confused, Dialogue: 0,0:01:39.34,0:01:40.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I could make the argument Dialogue: 0,0:01:40.31,0:01:42.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that if I think I'm confused, I'm not Dialogue: 0,0:01:42.41,0:01:44.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because confused people don't know they're confused. Dialogue: 0,0:01:44.72,0:01:47.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But I'm pretty sure there's fluid forming\Naround my brain. Dialogue: 0,0:01:51.00,0:01:52.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,--We ought to think about what we want to\Nmake Dialogue: 0,0:01:52.37,0:01:55.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,--our next comics about. Dialogue: 0,0:01:55.05,0:01:57.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,--Because we could either Dialogue: 0,0:01:57.13,0:02:00.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,--address some of the more current things\Nthat are going on. Dialogue: 0,0:02:00.85,0:02:02.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[WINKLER] Like, what were you thinking? Dialogue: 0,0:02:03.06,0:02:04.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[ZANISNIK] [SIGHS] I don't know, you know... Dialogue: 0,0:02:04.53,0:02:06.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[WINKLER] So what's going on in the work now? Dialogue: 0,0:02:06.31,0:02:07.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[ZANISNIK] So, yeah, I'm working on this project. Dialogue: 0,0:02:07.28,0:02:09.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm, like, building this library. Dialogue: 0,0:02:09.04,0:02:12.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know, it's all based around the time Philip Roth almost... Dialogue: 0,0:02:12.34,0:02:13.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[WINKLER] He tried to sue you... Dialogue: 0,0:02:13.42,0:02:15.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[ZANISNIK] Yeah, Roth tried to sue me. Dialogue: 0,0:02:15.10,0:02:17.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,["The Seventh Lawsuit" starring Philip Roth as Death] Dialogue: 0,0:02:23.12,0:02:24.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,--[ZANISNIK, IMPERSONATING ROTH] I'm Roth, Dialogue: 0,0:02:24.72,0:02:28.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,--I will be by your side a long while, Dialogue: 0,0:02:28.40,0:02:30.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,--as will my lawyers. Dialogue: 0,0:02:30.30,0:02:31.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,--[ZANISNIK] No! No! Dialogue: 0,0:02:31.42,0:02:32.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,--Get out of my brain! Dialogue: 0,0:02:32.38,0:02:35.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, back in 2012, Dialogue: 0,0:02:35.01,0:02:37.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was doing this performance at Abrons Art Center Dialogue: 0,0:02:37.32,0:02:40.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where, in the middle of these thousands of objects, Dialogue: 0,0:02:40.95,0:02:44.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there was this twelve-foot-tall glass container, Dialogue: 0,0:02:44.40,0:02:45.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then I was holding this Philip Roth novel. Dialogue: 0,0:02:45.95,0:02:47.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I wasn't even reading it out loud-- Dialogue: 0,0:02:47.12,0:02:48.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was just holding it. Dialogue: 0,0:02:48.32,0:02:50.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And he found out about this Dialogue: 0,0:02:50.31,0:02:52.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and he tried to sue me. Dialogue: 0,0:02:52.56,0:02:54.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So yesterday I went on Amazon Dialogue: 0,0:02:54.48,0:02:56.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and bought 550 Philip Roth novels. Dialogue: 0,0:02:56.54,0:02:57.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[WINKLER] No you didn't! Dialogue: 0,0:02:57.02,0:02:57.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So then how much did they cost? Dialogue: 0,0:02:57.96,0:02:59.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[ZANISNIK] It's like, uh... Dialogue: 0,0:02:59.10,0:03:00.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I don't, it's like 1,600 bucks for five... Dialogue: 0,0:03:00.60,0:03:01.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was cheap! Dialogue: 0,0:03:01.22,0:03:01.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[WINKLER] Hmmm! Dialogue: 0,0:03:01.76,0:03:05.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[ZANISNIK] So now I'm collecting a huge library\Nof his works. Dialogue: 0,0:03:05.04,0:03:07.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know, it's The Philip Roth Presidential\NLibrary. Dialogue: 0,0:03:07.27,0:03:10.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I have a 3D-modeled printed bust of Roth. Dialogue: 0,0:03:10.37,0:03:11.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[WINKLER] Your new roommate! Dialogue: 0,0:03:12.94,0:03:13.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[RADIO PROGRAM PLAYS] Dialogue: 0,0:03:13.60,0:03:15.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,--"This is Fresh Air. I'm Terry Gross." Dialogue: 0,0:03:15.94,0:03:17.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,--"Happy birthday, Philip Roth!" Dialogue: 0,0:03:18.04,0:03:19.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[WINKLER] You think he's going to sue you\Nagain? Dialogue: 0,0:03:19.81,0:03:21.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[ZANISNIK] Well, I'm hoping, but... Dialogue: 0,0:03:22.40,0:03:24.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,don't tell the gallery in Miami this. Dialogue: 0,0:03:24.42,0:03:26.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm actually going down there on Thursday. Dialogue: 0,0:03:37.88,0:03:39.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,--[TSA agent] "What is this, a joke?" Dialogue: 0,0:03:39.04,0:03:39.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,--"Whose bag is this?" Dialogue: 0,0:03:40.48,0:03:42.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,--"You want to explain this to me?" Dialogue: 0,0:03:42.28,0:03:43.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[ZANISNIK] I was in graduate school, Dialogue: 0,0:03:43.59,0:03:45.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I was shooting these videos. Dialogue: 0,0:03:45.26,0:03:47.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then after the videos were finished, Dialogue: 0,0:03:47.78,0:03:50.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was taking objects from the videos, Dialogue: 0,0:03:50.02,0:03:52.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,arranging them on the wall as a tableau, Dialogue: 0,0:03:52.86,0:03:54.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then photographing them. Dialogue: 0,0:03:54.01,0:03:56.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I began realizing these photographs Dialogue: 0,0:03:56.30,0:03:59.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,were actually even more interesting than the\Nvideos themselves. Dialogue: 0,0:03:59.55,0:04:00.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I think in recent years, Dialogue: 0,0:04:00.88,0:04:03.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I've really been interested in seeing Dialogue: 0,0:04:03.00,0:04:06.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,how far I can push it site-specifically. Dialogue: 0,0:04:10.38,0:04:11.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yeah, let's keep talking about that, Dialogue: 0,0:04:11.61,0:04:13.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because I really feel like there's something\Nin there... Dialogue: 0,0:04:13.19,0:04:14.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the comic book about... Dialogue: 0,0:04:14.96,0:04:16.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[WINKLER] No, I'm already getting ideas, Dialogue: 0,0:04:16.16,0:04:17.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so I think it's good, but... Dialogue: 0,0:04:17.40,0:04:19.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You're doing something at the Queens Museum, right? Dialogue: 0,0:04:19.00,0:04:21.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[ZANISNIK] Yeah, well my studio is there for\Nthe year now. Dialogue: 0,0:04:24.94,0:04:25.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm working on this project Dialogue: 0,0:04:25.90,0:04:27.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where I'm building these sets Dialogue: 0,0:04:28.12,0:04:29.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for photographs. Dialogue: 0,0:04:32.34,0:04:33.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I don't know if you remember... Dialogue: 0,0:04:33.51,0:04:34.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you came by studio in DUMBO last year? Dialogue: 0,0:04:34.96,0:04:37.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Remember how it had this, like, crazy view\Nof the Manhattan skyline? Dialogue: 0,0:04:38.00,0:04:39.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[WINKER] Yeah, yeah. Dialogue: 0,0:04:39.06,0:04:41.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[ZANISNIK] So I built these sets over the\Nwindows, Dialogue: 0,0:04:41.42,0:04:42.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then I kind of, like, punched holes. Dialogue: 0,0:04:42.74,0:04:44.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[SOUND OF PAPER TEARING] Dialogue: 0,0:04:47.50,0:04:49.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When I went to the Queens Museum, Dialogue: 0,0:04:49.48,0:04:50.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I kind of thought I wanted to continue this. Dialogue: 0,0:04:50.86,0:04:52.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[WINKLER] Not as good of a view, though. Dialogue: 0,0:04:52.43,0:04:54.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[ZANISNIK] I don't have windows in my studio, Dialogue: 0,0:04:54.23,0:04:55.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so that's a problem. Dialogue: 0,0:04:56.79,0:04:59.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But, right outside the museum Dialogue: 0,0:04:59.52,0:05:02.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are all the monuments from the World's Fair. Dialogue: 0,0:05:05.52,0:05:07.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,People think I do this in Photoshop. Dialogue: 0,0:05:07.95,0:05:09.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think that these places Dialogue: 0,0:05:09.65,0:05:12.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that are so much tied to the city Dialogue: 0,0:05:12.22,0:05:13.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or identified with the city Dialogue: 0,0:05:13.86,0:05:18.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are just almost becoming outside of our reach. Dialogue: 0,0:05:18.38,0:05:19.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Like even with the Queens Museum, Dialogue: 0,0:05:19.49,0:05:20.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's an amazing institution, Dialogue: 0,0:05:20.71,0:05:23.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but I am practically half a foot in Long Island. Dialogue: 0,0:05:23.51,0:05:25.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I'm feeling like I'm being, like, Dialogue: 0,0:05:25.15,0:05:26.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,pushed and pushed, Dialogue: 0,0:05:26.45,0:05:28.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like the things that we identify as a city-- Dialogue: 0,0:05:28.66,0:05:30.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the iconic New York City-- Dialogue: 0,0:05:30.82,0:05:32.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are, like, slipping away from artists. Dialogue: 0,0:05:33.44,0:05:36.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I think, in a way, it also feels like-- Dialogue: 0,0:05:36.07,0:05:37.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to me, this project-- Dialogue: 0,0:05:37.33,0:05:39.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I feel, in some weird ways, Dialogue: 0,0:05:39.20,0:05:41.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's almost kind of a goodbye to New York. Dialogue: 0,0:05:43.68,0:05:45.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,["Escape from New York"] Dialogue: 0,0:06:00.10,0:06:01.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,My work is very personal, Dialogue: 0,0:06:01.84,0:06:03.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but I've been careful not to get Dialogue: 0,0:06:03.45,0:06:05.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,too indulgent in autobiography, Dialogue: 0,0:06:05.40,0:06:08.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but Eric can address it directly in a comic. Dialogue: 0,0:06:08.36,0:06:09.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I like that. Dialogue: 0,0:06:09.14,0:06:09.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I like this idea Dialogue: 0,0:06:09.65,0:06:11.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that it sort of contextualizes-- Dialogue: 0,0:06:11.87,0:06:13.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it brings another level of autobiography. Dialogue: 0,0:06:14.74,0:06:16.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is that performance where Dialogue: 0,0:06:16.47,0:06:19.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was wearing baguettes as arms Dialogue: 0,0:06:19.21,0:06:20.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and they got ripped off Dialogue: 0,0:06:21.07,0:06:23.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then my mom and dad ate my arms. Dialogue: 0,0:06:23.80,0:06:24.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[WINKLER, LAUGHING] Right! Dialogue: 0,0:06:24.64,0:06:25.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[ZANISNIK] That was a good time. Dialogue: 0,0:06:26.26,0:06:30.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[WINKLER] The character is a little more arrogant. Dialogue: 0,0:06:30.28,0:06:32.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Not that Bryan isn't slightly arrogant. Dialogue: 0,0:06:32.53,0:06:33.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Sometimes that comes across. Dialogue: 0,0:06:34.32,0:06:37.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[ZANISNIK] There's a lot of similarities between\NEric and I. Dialogue: 0,0:06:38.53,0:06:43.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He lost his mother to cancer two years ago Dialogue: 0,0:06:43.25,0:06:45.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I lost my mom to cancer last year. Dialogue: 0,0:06:45.94,0:06:49.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I think there's also kind of been a real,\Nsort of, Dialogue: 0,0:06:51.24,0:06:52.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,new depth to our friendship there, Dialogue: 0,0:06:52.72,0:06:54.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and us kind of both having gone through this loss Dialogue: 0,0:06:54.87,0:06:56.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,early in our lives. Dialogue: 0,0:07:00.38,0:07:01.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,How's your dad doing? Dialogue: 0,0:07:02.30,0:07:03.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[WINKLER] He's okay. Dialogue: 0,0:07:03.08,0:07:04.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[ZANISNIK] It's always weird, Dialogue: 0,0:07:04.28,0:07:05.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's like how do you... Dialogue: 0,0:07:05.77,0:07:08.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,how do you talk about losing your mom, without... Dialogue: 0,0:07:09.62,0:07:11.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It feels like I always just go to, like, Dialogue: 0,0:07:11.12,0:07:12.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,talking about my dad. Dialogue: 0,0:07:12.08,0:07:14.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[WINKER] No, I mean, there's different stages\Nof, like, Dialogue: 0,0:07:14.46,0:07:16.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,having to deal with it, Dialogue: 0,0:07:16.04,0:07:17.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then, like, how you feel, Dialogue: 0,0:07:17.42,0:07:18.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like, during different stages. Dialogue: 0,0:07:18.35,0:07:18.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,No, I still... Dialogue: 0,0:07:18.83,0:07:19.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you know, I get... Dialogue: 0,0:07:19.89,0:07:22.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Like, I have hard days. Dialogue: 0,0:07:33.26,0:07:34.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[ZANISNIK] My mom was... Dialogue: 0,0:07:34.46,0:07:35.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a real character. Dialogue: 0,0:07:35.06,0:07:36.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[WINKER] Your mom was a character. Dialogue: 0,0:07:36.02,0:07:36.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So was mine. Dialogue: 0,0:07:36.52,0:07:37.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[ZANISNIK] Yeah, so was yours. Dialogue: 0,0:07:37.19,0:07:38.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And it's crazy thinking about, like, Dialogue: 0,0:07:38.63,0:07:40.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,how many comics did you draw of my mom--a lot! Dialogue: 0,0:07:40.58,0:07:41.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[WINKLER] I know, a lot! Dialogue: 0,0:07:41.55,0:07:42.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[BOTH] Yeah. Dialogue: 0,0:07:44.02,0:07:44.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[WINKLER] It's weird sometimes, Dialogue: 0,0:07:44.88,0:07:46.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because I want to put her back in sometimes. Dialogue: 0,0:07:48.36,0:07:49.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[ZANISNIK] Maybe it's a weird thing to say, Dialogue: 0,0:07:49.62,0:07:51.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but I feel like she would like it. Dialogue: 0,0:07:53.26,0:07:54.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Someone said to me once, Dialogue: 0,0:07:54.45,0:07:56.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"The relationship doesn't really end." Dialogue: 0,0:07:56.82,0:07:58.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Like, it just changes-- Dialogue: 0,0:07:58.00,0:07:59.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in a very different, Dialogue: 0,0:07:59.65,0:08:01.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,kind of, often sad way. Dialogue: 0,0:08:01.30,0:08:03.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But it's not like it completely ends a hundred percent. Dialogue: 0,0:08:03.40,0:08:04.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[WINKLER] Right. Dialogue: 0,0:08:06.10,0:08:08.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[ZANISNIK] You know, I probably had done Dialogue: 0,0:08:08.40,0:08:10.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,around thirty performances with my parents, Dialogue: 0,0:08:10.33,0:08:11.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,believe it or not, Dialogue: 0,0:08:11.28,0:08:12.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,over seven years. Dialogue: 0,0:08:14.32,0:08:15.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,One of the things that was really nice Dialogue: 0,0:08:15.67,0:08:18.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is my relationship with them Dialogue: 0,0:08:18.13,0:08:20.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,really evolved over those years.