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Format: Layer, Start, End, Style, Name, MarginL, MarginR, MarginV, Effect, Text
Dialogue: 0,0:00:05.69,0:00:17.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is from:\N"anonymous - just humiliated."
Dialogue: 0,0:00:17.79,0:00:23.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Can I get a divorce?
Dialogue: 0,0:00:23.61,0:00:26.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I am still raw with pain
Dialogue: 0,0:00:26.72,0:00:29.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with every desire..."
Dialogue: 0,0:00:29.17,0:00:33.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now hear this: "Can I get a divorce?
Dialogue: 0,0:00:33.45,0:00:38.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I am still raw with pain..."
Dialogue: 0,0:00:38.26,0:00:43.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but she has every desire and prays
Dialogue: 0,0:00:43.04,0:00:44.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to forgive her husband
Dialogue: 0,0:00:44.52,0:00:46.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of twenty-plus years
Dialogue: 0,0:00:46.89,0:00:49.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for his adulterous affair
Dialogue: 0,0:00:49.23,0:00:52.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with a young, beautiful woman,
Dialogue: 0,0:00:52.90,0:00:56.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who he spent over $8,000 on
Dialogue: 0,0:00:56.62,0:00:59.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with traveling to at least five states
Dialogue: 0,0:00:59.48,0:01:01.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,including six cities,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:01.19,0:01:04.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,jewelry from Tiffany's, jackets,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:04.57,0:01:07.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a new iWatch when it first was introduced
Dialogue: 0,0:01:07.18,0:01:09.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to the market.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:09.09,0:01:11.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It has been a little over two years ago
Dialogue: 0,0:01:11.11,0:01:14.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,since this young woman,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:14.03,0:01:18.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,angered by their breakup..."
Dialogue: 0,0:01:18.12,0:01:21.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Her husband and this young lady broke up,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:21.48,0:01:25.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so the young lady called the wife
Dialogue: 0,0:01:25.81,0:01:27.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and introduced herself....
Dialogue: 0,0:01:27.99,0:01:31.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"...to me as his girlfriend."
Dialogue: 0,0:01:31.35,0:01:34.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And revealed all this information,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:34.12,0:01:36.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which her husband didn't deny.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:36.63,0:01:38.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He confirmed it as true
Dialogue: 0,0:01:38.16,0:01:40.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when she confronted him.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:40.93,0:01:45.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Reconciliation has been \Nharder than anything,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:45.12,0:01:49.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,testing my faith as I go to God regularly
Dialogue: 0,0:01:49.44,0:01:53.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to forgive him continually."
Dialogue: 0,0:01:53.01,0:01:55.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,She says, "I face triggers."
Dialogue: 0,0:01:55.94,0:01:57.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What does she mean?
Dialogue: 0,0:01:57.70,0:01:59.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There are these triggers that set off
Dialogue: 0,0:01:59.89,0:02:02.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,anger and bitterness.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:02.98,0:02:05.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What? New discoveries.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:05.79,0:02:08.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Things that her husband \Ndidn't fully disclose.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:08.87,0:02:11.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,She's finding out as time goes on
Dialogue: 0,0:02:11.82,0:02:16.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,new information, new discoveries.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:16.47,0:02:21.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Inconsistencies in the things
Dialogue: 0,0:02:21.61,0:02:28.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that he has told her that reveal lies.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:28.52,0:02:34.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"And the discovery that \Nhe referred to this girl
Dialogue: 0,0:02:34.65,0:02:37.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as his ex-girlfriend,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:37.28,0:02:40.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,upgrading their foul, \Nadulterous relationship
Dialogue: 0,0:02:40.92,0:02:43.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as one as common as a courtship
Dialogue: 0,0:02:43.22,0:02:45.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,instead of referring to \Nher as what she was,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:45.93,0:02:48.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a mistress.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:48.17,0:02:49.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm hurting badly
Dialogue: 0,0:02:49.78,0:02:54.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with feelings of not feeling good enough."
Dialogue: 0,0:02:54.29,0:02:59.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So she feels like a failure as a wife.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:59.31,0:03:02.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Anger that I wrestle in the flesh
Dialogue: 0,0:03:02.70,0:03:07.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because I cherish my \Nrelationship with Jesus Christ.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:07.51,0:03:10.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,My journey actually has been smoother
Dialogue: 0,0:03:10.46,0:03:14.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,since I've discovered \Nthis two-plus years ago.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:14.08,0:03:16.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But we still argue.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:16.36,0:03:20.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He says he's repented, but I don't see how
Dialogue: 0,0:03:20.34,0:03:22.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because I still feel disrespected
Dialogue: 0,0:03:22.29,0:03:24.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the way he views her.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:24.83,0:03:27.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Like how he mentioned her to someone
Dialogue: 0,0:03:27.12,0:03:29.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as his ex-girlfriend,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:29.83,0:03:32.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and how he tells me I'm crazy
Dialogue: 0,0:03:32.30,0:03:34.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for still wrestling with the problem.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:34.95,0:03:38.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And like how he says \Nhe lives a sinless life
Dialogue: 0,0:03:38.12,0:03:41.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,now that he's repented.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:41.38,0:03:44.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Like when he uses profanity
Dialogue: 0,0:03:44.77,0:03:46.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in response to me badgering him
Dialogue: 0,0:03:46.99,0:03:50.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about the past adulterous affair
Dialogue: 0,0:03:50.90,0:03:53.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as if it's my fault.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:53.80,0:03:55.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,His lies he's told in the aftermath
Dialogue: 0,0:03:55.96,0:03:58.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to cover up things she told me
Dialogue: 0,0:03:58.16,0:04:01.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,aren't recognized as sin by him
Dialogue: 0,0:04:01.04,0:04:03.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because now that he's \Nnot committing adultery,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:03.49,0:04:05.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he claims he's sinless."
Dialogue: 0,0:04:05.78,0:04:07.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,She says, "I'm born again,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:07.97,0:04:10.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I'm always repenting,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:10.16,0:04:12.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,always seeking the Lord to purge me
Dialogue: 0,0:04:12.62,0:04:14.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as He said He would.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:14.03,0:04:17.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,'Every branch that abides in Him...'
Dialogue: 0,0:04:17.12,0:04:22.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm never so satisfied with where I am
Dialogue: 0,0:04:22.52,0:04:24.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that I call myself sinless.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:24.74,0:04:26.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Am I set free? Yes.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:26.90,0:04:29.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But now more than ever, I'm wrestling
Dialogue: 0,0:04:29.05,0:04:31.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with anger and unforgiveness
Dialogue: 0,0:04:31.89,0:04:33.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as they are triggered.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:33.92,0:04:36.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I have really great days.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:36.23,0:04:39.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I have good days, moderate days,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:39.40,0:04:44.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and really, really bad days.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:44.35,0:04:46.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm seeking the Lord
Dialogue: 0,0:04:46.41,0:04:51.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and pouring out to Him through all this."
Dialogue: 0,0:04:51.25,0:04:55.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now she also sent a follow-up
Dialogue: 0,0:04:55.93,0:04:59.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where she said this:
Dialogue: 0,0:04:59.81,0:05:01.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"I'm so sorry
Dialogue: 0,0:05:01.81,0:05:05.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,concerning the message I just sent.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:05.08,0:05:10.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Be it far from me to leave \Nout my own fault too.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:10.60,0:05:12.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I've been wrestling with both anger
Dialogue: 0,0:05:12.51,0:05:15.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and horrible profanity.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:15.75,0:05:18.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm repenting constantly \Nfor my angry outbursts
Dialogue: 0,0:05:18.63,0:05:20.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about the affair
Dialogue: 0,0:05:20.32,0:05:23.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the marital neglect I experienced.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:23.98,0:05:25.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And to be honest," she says,
Dialogue: 0,0:05:25.52,0:05:29.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"he has many times sat quietly
Dialogue: 0,0:05:29.66,0:05:31.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and listened to me.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:31.79,0:05:35.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He has not been a monster toward me
Dialogue: 0,0:05:35.13,0:05:38.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,since about two months after the discovery
Dialogue: 0,0:05:38.67,0:05:42.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of his adulterous affair.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:42.52,0:05:45.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I'm sorry I left those points out."
Dialogue: 0,0:05:45.97,0:05:52.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,She felt convicted.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:52.14,0:05:55.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So her first question is
Dialogue: 0,0:05:55.27,0:05:56.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,can I get a divorce?
Dialogue: 0,0:05:56.59,0:05:58.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now you recognize, she follows it up
Dialogue: 0,0:05:58.36,0:06:02.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,by saying "every desire in her prayer
Dialogue: 0,0:06:02.36,0:06:05.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is to forgive her husband."
Dialogue: 0,0:06:05.31,0:06:08.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So this is a woman that's torn.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:08.81,0:06:11.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is a woman who's trying to heal,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:11.24,0:06:13.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but she says there's triggers.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:13.71,0:06:17.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Like she finds some new information
Dialogue: 0,0:06:17.58,0:06:19.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that he wasn't honest about.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:19.97,0:06:21.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Or he seems to downplay it -
Dialogue: 0,0:06:21.88,0:06:24.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,say it's her sin, it's her fault.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:24.36,0:06:31.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Why does she keep carrying on with this?
Dialogue: 0,0:06:31.10,0:06:34.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What do you tell her?
Dialogue: 0,0:06:34.87,0:06:39.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,She says, "he tells me I'm crazy
Dialogue: 0,0:06:39.91,0:06:44.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for still wrestling with the problem."
Dialogue: 0,0:06:44.36,0:06:51.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I would say to her you're not crazy.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:51.23,0:06:52.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I mean, clearly if you're a woman
Dialogue: 0,0:06:52.93,0:06:55.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and your husband has been unfaithful
Dialogue: 0,0:06:55.16,0:06:58.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then in the aftermath of it,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:58.80,0:07:02.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,new information keeps coming out,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:02.67,0:07:05.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,lies get uncovered,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:05.56,0:07:07.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,your husband basically acts like
Dialogue: 0,0:07:07.82,0:07:09.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,now that he's repented it's over
Dialogue: 0,0:07:09.46,0:07:13.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and you ought to just get over it.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:13.32,0:07:15.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,No, I would say that all those things
Dialogue: 0,0:07:15.66,0:07:20.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are exactly going to keep the wound
Dialogue: 0,0:07:20.15,0:07:23.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,opening up afresh.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:23.84,0:07:26.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What do you tell her?
Dialogue: 0,0:07:26.92,0:07:30.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Let's start right there. \NCan I get a divorce?
Dialogue: 0,0:07:30.51,0:07:35.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What do you tell her?
Dialogue: 0,0:07:35.40,0:07:38.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I don't even think that \Nshe really wants one.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:38.96,0:07:42.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But she's asking the question.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:42.26,0:07:43.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(from the room)
Dialogue: 0,0:07:43.28,0:07:45.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I don't think that's \Nsomething that you give
Dialogue: 0,0:07:45.83,0:07:48.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,strong response to right away
Dialogue: 0,0:07:48.87,0:07:50.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because of the nature of it.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:50.97,0:07:53.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,She doesn't seem like she wants a divorce.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:53.26,0:07:55.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The guy has been unfaithful.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:55.70,0:07:58.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,She's not going to just get over it.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:58.09,0:08:01.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,She seems to want to get over it.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:01.86,0:08:06.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You don't have a quick \Nanswer for something like that.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:06.10,0:08:07.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I can't think - even though I know
Dialogue: 0,0:08:07.99,0:08:09.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what Scripture says about divorce
Dialogue: 0,0:08:09.78,0:08:12.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the grounds for divorce -
Dialogue: 0,0:08:12.04,0:08:14.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,she doesn't seem that she really wants to.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:14.75,0:08:17.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What quick response can you give to that?
Dialogue: 0,0:08:17.09,0:08:19.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Tim: Well, she may want to know
Dialogue: 0,0:08:19.41,0:08:21.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that she biblically can
Dialogue: 0,0:08:21.75,0:08:24.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,even though she doesn't want to
Dialogue: 0,0:08:24.17,0:08:28.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so that it's kind of a \Nweapon in her arsenal
Dialogue: 0,0:08:28.42,0:08:31.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to leverage over the guy.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:31.66,0:08:33.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm just saying that could be.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:33.66,0:08:38.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But I mean, just from a \Npurely biblical standpoint,
Dialogue: 0,0:08:38.06,0:08:41.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(incomplete thought) \N
Dialogue: 0,0:08:41.37,0:08:43.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Let me ask you this.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:43.53,0:08:50.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If she divorced her husband,
Dialogue: 0,0:08:50.75,0:08:54.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if she was in our church
Dialogue: 0,0:08:54.39,0:08:57.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and she divorced her husband,
Dialogue: 0,0:08:57.14,0:08:59.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,should we say,
Dialogue: 0,0:08:59.97,0:09:06.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,well, she had biblical grounds?
Dialogue: 0,0:09:06.45,0:09:12.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Would we say, well, we \Ncounseled her against it,
Dialogue: 0,0:09:12.88,0:09:16.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but she did actually \Nhave biblical grounds?
Dialogue: 0,0:09:16.77,0:09:24.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Would we say no? She can't?
Dialogue: 0,0:09:24.71,0:09:27.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And there would be \Nconsequences if she did?
Dialogue: 0,0:09:27.07,0:09:32.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Maybe some kind of \Ndisciplinary consequences.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:32.11,0:09:36.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Well, let me ask you this.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:36.44,0:09:41.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If a woman has a husband who's unfaithful,
Dialogue: 0,0:09:41.22,0:09:43.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he says he's repented.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:43.13,0:09:47.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He doesn't go on in his sin.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:47.88,0:09:54.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And she seems to really \Ndesire to forgive him,
Dialogue: 0,0:09:54.52,0:09:57.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is there a cutoff point?
Dialogue: 0,0:09:57.84,0:10:01.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Would you say that she has a right
Dialogue: 0,0:10:01.26,0:10:03.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,25 years down the road to say
Dialogue: 0,0:10:03.92,0:10:05.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you know what?
Dialogue: 0,0:10:05.95,0:10:08.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,My husband was unfaithful 25 years ago
Dialogue: 0,0:10:08.59,0:10:11.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I want out.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:11.12,0:10:13.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I just got sick of this relationship
Dialogue: 0,0:10:13.06,0:10:14.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I've got a biblical out
Dialogue: 0,0:10:14.35,0:10:16.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I'm going to take it and use it now.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:16.65,0:10:20.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Is that like a get out of jail free card?
Dialogue: 0,0:10:20.91,0:10:27.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Seriously, the exception points
Dialogue: 0,0:10:27.62,0:10:36.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that are made there in Matthew 5 and 19,
Dialogue: 0,0:10:36.63,0:10:41.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if there's sexual immorality -
Dialogue: 0,0:10:41.18,0:10:44.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,except in the case of sexual immorality.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:44.18,0:10:48.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Is there, whether we put a distinct
Dialogue: 0,0:10:48.18,0:10:50.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,amount of time on it or not,
Dialogue: 0,0:10:50.07,0:10:52.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is there a time?
Dialogue: 0,0:10:52.32,0:10:56.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When Jesus says except \Nfor sexual immorality,
Dialogue: 0,0:10:56.56,0:11:00.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,does He mean that well, \Nif you have a spouse
Dialogue: 0,0:11:00.20,0:11:03.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who's been sexually immoral,
Dialogue: 0,0:11:03.67,0:11:06.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and once they've done that,
Dialogue: 0,0:11:06.63,0:11:10.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you basically have a right \Nto divorce them at anytime?
Dialogue: 0,0:11:10.83,0:11:13.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Or is there a timeline?
Dialogue: 0,0:11:13.73,0:11:15.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Would we say there is a time
Dialogue: 0,0:11:15.45,0:11:16.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that if enough time goes by,
Dialogue: 0,0:11:16.84,0:11:20.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that it would be inappropriate?
Dialogue: 0,0:11:20.25,0:11:23.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What say you?
Dialogue: 0,0:11:23.32,0:11:27.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Scripture.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:27.91,0:11:32.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What Scripture has \Nto do with what's right?
Dialogue: 0,0:11:32.00,0:11:34.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What's loving? What's appropiate?
Dialogue: 0,0:11:34.64,0:11:45.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What's God-like? What's Christ-like?
Dialogue: 0,0:11:45.01,0:11:46.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(from the room)
Dialogue: 0,0:11:46.08,0:11:52.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Would 1 Corinthians 7:3-14
Dialogue: 0,0:11:52.77,0:11:58.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,be applicable to this situation?
Dialogue: 0,0:11:58.93,0:12:05.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(unintelligible)
Dialogue: 0,0:12:05.21,0:12:07.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Tim: Which verse specifically
Dialogue: 0,0:12:07.09,0:12:09.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are you thinking is applicable?
Dialogue: 0,0:12:09.54,0:12:10.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(from the room)
Dialogue: 0,0:12:10.64,0:12:15.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's 1 Corinthians 7:13.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:15.58,0:12:17.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"If any woman has a husband
Dialogue: 0,0:12:17.41,0:12:18.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who is an unbeliever
Dialogue: 0,0:12:18.76,0:12:21.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and consents to live with her,
Dialogue: 0,0:12:21.38,0:12:23.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,she should not divorce him.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:23.06,0:12:24.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,For the unbelieving husband
Dialogue: 0,0:12:24.41,0:12:30.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is made holy because of his wife."
Dialogue: 0,0:12:30.35,0:12:33.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Tim: But that situation \Ndoesn't necessarily
Dialogue: 0,0:12:33.06,0:12:35.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,bring in the sexual immorality.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:35.99,0:12:40.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Whereas the Matthew texts
Dialogue: 0,0:12:40.92,0:12:45.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,do bring in that specific reality.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:45.43,0:12:49.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Let me ask you this.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:49.36,0:12:51.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Do you think that it's possible
Dialogue: 0,0:12:51.62,0:13:00.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to forgive the husband \Nand still divorce him?
Dialogue: 0,0:13:00.12,0:13:04.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I hear no. I hear yes.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:04.66,0:13:06.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Could you imagine a situation
Dialogue: 0,0:13:06.79,0:13:11.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where forgiving him - which is good,
Dialogue: 0,0:13:11.38,0:13:13.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,appropriate,
Dialogue: 0,0:13:13.37,0:13:18.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,letting go of the \Nbitterness that you feel,
Dialogue: 0,0:13:18.68,0:13:24.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where it still would be \Nnecessary to divorce him?
Dialogue: 0,0:13:24.61,0:13:30.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(unintelligible)
Dialogue: 0,0:13:30.39,0:13:33.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I mean, what if your husband
Dialogue: 0,0:13:33.88,0:13:39.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,actually was involved in \Npedophilia or something
Dialogue: 0,0:13:39.18,0:13:43.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and you've got kids.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:43.04,0:13:44.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Is it possible to forgive him
Dialogue: 0,0:13:44.53,0:13:47.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and yet recognize I've \Ngot to get out of this
Dialogue: 0,0:13:47.84,0:13:49.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,perhaps for my own safety
Dialogue: 0,0:13:49.63,0:13:52.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or for the safety of the children?
Dialogue: 0,0:13:52.05,0:13:54.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Perhaps that could be.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:54.71,0:13:57.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That doesn't seem like this situation.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:57.24,0:14:01.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And clearly it's a different situation
Dialogue: 0,0:14:01.43,0:14:04.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when you have a spouse who's continuing
Dialogue: 0,0:14:04.47,0:14:07.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in their sexual immorality.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:07.91,0:14:10.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But when you have \Nsomebody that's committed it
Dialogue: 0,0:14:10.63,0:14:13.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then they're repentant...
Dialogue: 0,0:14:13.76,0:14:15.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now, I recognize, we could wrestle with
Dialogue: 0,0:14:15.86,0:14:18.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,well, is he sincere? Is he not sincere?
Dialogue: 0,0:14:18.41,0:14:20.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But do you think that a Christian
Dialogue: 0,0:14:20.08,0:14:26.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,has an obligation to \Nremain in the marriage
Dialogue: 0,0:14:26.28,0:14:32.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if the spouse repents?
Dialogue: 0,0:14:32.85,0:14:38.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Is it an obligation?
Dialogue: 0,0:14:38.33,0:14:42.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Open your Bibles to Matthew 19.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:42.15,0:14:43.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You're already there.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:43.42,0:14:48.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Look at 19:1,
Dialogue: 0,0:14:48.16,0:14:50.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Now when Jesus had finished these sayings
Dialogue: 0,0:14:50.60,0:14:52.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He went away from Galilee
Dialogue: 0,0:14:52.56,0:14:56.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and entered the region of \NJudea beyond the Jordan.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:56.01,0:14:57.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Large crowds followed Him
Dialogue: 0,0:14:57.48,0:14:59.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and He healed them there.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:59.54,0:15:01.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And Pharisees came up \Nto Him and tested Him
Dialogue: 0,0:15:01.85,0:15:03.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,by asking 'is it lawful to divorce
Dialogue: 0,0:15:03.91,0:15:05.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,one's wife for any cause?'
Dialogue: 0,0:15:05.79,0:15:07.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He answered, 'have you not read
Dialogue: 0,0:15:07.38,0:15:09.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that He Who created them \Nfrom the beginning
Dialogue: 0,0:15:09.60,0:15:11.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,made them male and female?'
Dialogue: 0,0:15:11.23,0:15:12.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And said, 'therefore a man shall
Dialogue: 0,0:15:12.80,0:15:14.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,leave his father and his mother
Dialogue: 0,0:15:14.48,0:15:16.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and hold fast to his wife,
Dialogue: 0,0:15:16.52,0:15:18.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the two shall become one flesh.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:18.93,0:15:21.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So they're no longer two, but one flesh.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:21.51,0:15:23.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What therefore God has joined together,
Dialogue: 0,0:15:23.38,0:15:25.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,let not man separate.'
Dialogue: 0,0:15:25.35,0:15:27.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They said to Him, 'Why then did Moses
Dialogue: 0,0:15:27.16,0:15:30.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,command one to give \Na certificate of divorce
Dialogue: 0,0:15:30.11,0:15:32.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and to send her away?'
Dialogue: 0,0:15:32.11,0:15:34.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He said to them, 'Because \Nof your hardness of heart
Dialogue: 0,0:15:34.67,0:15:37.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Moses allowed you to divorce your wives.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:37.41,0:15:39.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But from the beginning, it was not so.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:39.90,0:15:43.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I say to you, \Nwhoever divorces his wife
Dialogue: 0,0:15:43.54,0:15:46.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,except for sexual immorality
Dialogue: 0,0:15:46.50,0:15:49.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and marries another, commits adultery.'"
Dialogue: 0,0:15:49.42,0:15:58.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So there is an exception there.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:58.84,0:16:03.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So okay, with the exception -
Dialogue: 0,0:16:03.90,0:16:05.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,now this is speaking of a man.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:05.85,0:16:09.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was a very man-dominated society then.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:09.53,0:16:11.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But nevertheless, a woman
Dialogue: 0,0:16:11.98,0:16:15.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,divorces a husband \Nbecause of sexual immorality.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:15.84,0:16:20.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It seems like there's an exception there.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:20.90,0:16:22.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There's an exception,
Dialogue: 0,0:16:22.69,0:16:24.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but there certainly isn't a mandate.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:24.98,0:16:29.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's not commanded.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:29.93,0:16:33.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Do we not feel that a Christian
Dialogue: 0,0:16:33.57,0:16:37.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who forgives sin against themselves -
Dialogue: 0,0:16:37.36,0:16:40.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that's very Christ-like.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:40.24,0:16:43.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,For her to forgive her husband -
Dialogue: 0,0:16:43.25,0:16:45.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,very Christ-like.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:45.24,0:16:47.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Would we not agree with that?
Dialogue: 0,0:16:47.61,0:16:49.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He's claiming to have repented.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:49.58,0:16:54.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,She says for the last two years -
Dialogue: 0,0:16:54.94,0:16:58.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that's 24 months - she says for 22 months,
Dialogue: 0,0:16:58.32,0:17:00.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,things have actually gone fairly well.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:00.27,0:17:02.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now there's these triggers \Nthat keep opening it up,
Dialogue: 0,0:17:02.100,0:17:05.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but once he came clean, she says,
Dialogue: 0,0:17:05.06,0:17:11.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that things were pretty good.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:11.54,0:17:13.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What do you tell her?
Dialogue: 0,0:17:13.25,0:17:14.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,She's got these triggers.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:14.63,0:17:18.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,She's got these difficulties.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:18.38,0:17:27.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What could you tell her \Nthat would really help her?
Dialogue: 0,0:17:27.41,0:17:28.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(from the room)
Dialogue: 0,0:17:28.40,0:17:30.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Do you think that telling her that love
Dialogue: 0,0:17:30.94,0:17:34.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,does not keep a record of wrongdoing,
Dialogue: 0,0:17:34.47,0:17:37.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if she truly has forgiven him...
Dialogue: 0,0:17:37.40,0:17:39.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for example, like you said, if we tell her
Dialogue: 0,0:17:39.52,0:17:41.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that biblically she can divorce,
Dialogue: 0,0:17:41.42,0:17:42.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is there a time limit?
Dialogue: 0,0:17:42.88,0:17:44.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Well, let's say 25 years from now
Dialogue: 0,0:17:44.60,0:17:47.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,she wants to divorce.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:47.37,0:17:49.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Tim: Here's the thing.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:49.21,0:17:52.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You can say that,
Dialogue: 0,0:17:52.21,0:17:54.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but here's the problem.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:54.09,0:17:55.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If you were married and your husband
Dialogue: 0,0:17:55.94,0:17:59.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was the one who was unfaithful,
Dialogue: 0,0:17:59.45,0:18:04.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then as you're moving forward,
Dialogue: 0,0:18:04.42,0:18:09.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you keep finding \Ninconsistencies with his stories,
Dialogue: 0,0:18:09.43,0:18:15.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and instead of calling \Nthe woman a "mistress,"
Dialogue: 0,0:18:15.28,0:18:20.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he's referring to her as an ex-girlfriend.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:20.93,0:18:25.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And his lies keep coming back
Dialogue: 0,0:18:25.94,0:18:28.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so that the wound keeps getting re-opened.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:28.13,0:18:31.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You wouldn't be impervious to that.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:31.81,0:18:36.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Your trust is destroyed.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:36.73,0:18:39.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And the thing is \Ninconsistencies in his stories
Dialogue: 0,0:18:39.27,0:18:41.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,keep coming up.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:41.24,0:18:43.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And he keeps referring to the woman
Dialogue: 0,0:18:43.96,0:18:49.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in terms (incomplete thought).
Dialogue: 0,0:18:49.10,0:18:50.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What's that?
Dialogue: 0,0:18:50.19,0:18:51.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(from the room)
Dialogue: 0,0:18:51.08,0:18:54.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What keeps bringing that issue up though?
Dialogue: 0,0:18:54.25,0:18:56.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Tim: Well, it's going to come up.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:56.98,0:18:59.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I mean, it sounds like he's speaking
Dialogue: 0,0:18:59.76,0:19:01.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to other people about it
Dialogue: 0,0:19:01.60,0:19:03.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it gets back to her ears
Dialogue: 0,0:19:03.64,0:19:06.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that he's referring to her in terms
Dialogue: 0,0:19:06.22,0:19:10.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that seem to lessen \Nthe severity of his sin.
Dialogue: 0,0:19:10.63,0:19:12.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then, can you imagine
Dialogue: 0,0:19:12.53,0:19:16.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if you're wanting to talk,
Dialogue: 0,0:19:16.24,0:19:18.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,especially when there's inconsistencies
Dialogue: 0,0:19:18.34,0:19:21.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and you've got questions,
Dialogue: 0,0:19:21.74,0:19:23.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and when you ask about them
Dialogue: 0,0:19:23.24,0:19:25.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and you get upset,
Dialogue: 0,0:19:25.16,0:19:29.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he's telling you that you're \Nthe one who's wrong.
Dialogue: 0,0:19:29.46,0:19:31.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You're just holding on to it.
Dialogue: 0,0:19:31.37,0:19:32.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You're crazy.
Dialogue: 0,0:19:32.56,0:19:34.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You're still wrestling with these things.
Dialogue: 0,0:19:34.59,0:19:39.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Get over it.
Dialogue: 0,0:19:39.79,0:19:41.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Listen, those things would be
Dialogue: 0,0:19:41.56,0:19:47.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,incredibly hurtful and \Nwound opening events.
Dialogue: 0,0:19:47.00,0:19:48.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(from the room)
Dialogue: 0,0:19:48.14,0:19:50.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It kind of reminds me \Nof David in Psalm 55,
Dialogue: 0,0:19:50.74,0:19:52.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,some of the things he said there,
Dialogue: 0,0:19:52.85,0:19:54.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that my companion stretched out his hand;
Dialogue: 0,0:19:54.82,0:19:56.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he violated his covenant.
Dialogue: 0,0:19:56.15,0:19:58.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And here this lady's \Nmarriage has been violated.
Dialogue: 0,0:19:58.81,0:20:01.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And David felt like flying away
Dialogue: 0,0:20:01.22,0:20:02.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from the situation,
Dialogue: 0,0:20:02.90,0:20:06.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but ultimately cast his \Nburden on the Lord.
Dialogue: 0,0:20:06.38,0:20:07.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I guess if she's determined
Dialogue: 0,0:20:07.100,0:20:09.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to love her husband,
Dialogue: 0,0:20:09.75,0:20:12.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,all those reminders are a reminder
Dialogue: 0,0:20:12.12,0:20:14.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,ultimately to go back to Christ,
Dialogue: 0,0:20:14.25,0:20:15.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to cast her burden on Him,
Dialogue: 0,0:20:15.98,0:20:18.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and just plead for mercy
Dialogue: 0,0:20:18.41,0:20:19.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and help from the Lord.
Dialogue: 0,0:20:19.88,0:20:21.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And He's going to give that.
Dialogue: 0,0:20:21.40,0:20:22.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And if it's getting better
Dialogue: 0,0:20:22.68,0:20:24.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in these last two years,
Dialogue: 0,0:20:24.01,0:20:25.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I would assume in five years,
Dialogue: 0,0:20:25.76,0:20:28.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's even going to be more bearable,
Dialogue: 0,0:20:28.40,0:20:29.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,better hopefully.
Dialogue: 0,0:20:29.74,0:20:32.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Hopefully God would save her husband.
Dialogue: 0,0:20:32.22,0:20:33.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If she's going to stay with him,
Dialogue: 0,0:20:33.80,0:20:35.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what other option does she have
Dialogue: 0,0:20:35.30,0:20:36.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but to rely on the Lord?
Dialogue: 0,0:20:36.57,0:20:39.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Tim: Yeah, one of the things I wrote down
Dialogue: 0,0:20:39.45,0:20:43.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is to encourage her to not forget
Dialogue: 0,0:20:43.22,0:20:45.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the power of prayer
Dialogue: 0,0:20:45.10,0:20:47.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and laying hold on the Lord
Dialogue: 0,0:20:47.59,0:20:52.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and asking for supernatural grace.
Dialogue: 0,0:20:52.22,0:20:57.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But here's the thing,
Dialogue: 0,0:20:57.43,0:20:59.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there are women who navigate
Dialogue: 0,0:20:59.12,0:21:02.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,these kinds of situations
Dialogue: 0,0:21:02.90,0:21:07.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and they navigate it to the \Nhonor and glory of the Lord.
Dialogue: 0,0:21:07.76,0:21:09.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But I think one of the things
Dialogue: 0,0:21:09.68,0:21:12.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that you need to navigate it
Dialogue: 0,0:21:12.02,0:21:17.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is you have to think right.
Dialogue: 0,0:21:17.48,0:21:22.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And you have to think truth.
Dialogue: 0,0:21:22.77,0:21:24.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And one of the things
Dialogue: 0,0:21:24.63,0:21:27.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is to surround yourself with people
Dialogue: 0,0:21:27.78,0:21:31.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who are going to bring \Nyou back to the truth
Dialogue: 0,0:21:31.27,0:21:33.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,all the time.
Dialogue: 0,0:21:33.54,0:21:36.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I think that's being in a good church,
Dialogue: 0,0:21:36.99,0:21:39.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,surrounding yourself with people
Dialogue: 0,0:21:39.08,0:21:41.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that truly help you.
Dialogue: 0,0:21:41.01,0:21:42.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There are people who don't help.
Dialogue: 0,0:21:42.74,0:21:45.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There are people who - \Neven professing Christians
Dialogue: 0,0:21:45.38,0:21:47.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and perhaps genuine Christians
Dialogue: 0,0:21:47.54,0:21:51.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who give wrong advice, bad advice,
Dialogue: 0,0:21:51.97,0:21:55.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it's not helpful.
Dialogue: 0,0:21:55.05,0:21:56.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's not healing.
Dialogue: 0,0:21:56.56,0:21:59.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You need to surround yourself with people
Dialogue: 0,0:21:59.27,0:22:02.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who really are going \Nto guide you into truth
Dialogue: 0,0:22:02.04,0:22:03.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that is helpful,
Dialogue: 0,0:22:03.68,0:22:08.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that will help you get \Nacross these hurdles.
Dialogue: 0,0:22:08.78,0:22:12.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And they don't always \Nneed to be living people.
Dialogue: 0,0:22:12.86,0:22:15.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,One of the reasons I grabbed
Dialogue: 0,0:22:15.94,0:22:19.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"The Sympathy of Christ," \Nby Octavius Winslow
Dialogue: 0,0:22:19.54,0:22:26.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,off my shelf is the sympathy of Christ.
Dialogue: 0,0:22:26.34,0:22:33.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The reality is we have a \Nsympathetic High Priest.
Dialogue: 0,0:22:33.98,0:22:35.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is one of the greatest books
Dialogue: 0,0:22:35.99,0:22:41.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that I have on my shelf \Nfor suffering people.
Dialogue: 0,0:22:41.54,0:22:45.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because what it does is \Nit takes you close to Christ.
Dialogue: 0,0:22:45.07,0:22:50.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And it shows you His \Nsuffering and His sympathy
Dialogue: 0,0:22:50.22,0:22:54.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for the suffering.
Dialogue: 0,0:22:54.22,0:22:57.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because the truth is that Jesus
Dialogue: 0,0:22:57.48,0:23:01.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,has been in a place where \NHe suffered the rejection,
Dialogue: 0,0:23:01.63,0:23:04.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He suffered the hurt,
Dialogue: 0,0:23:04.12,0:23:09.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He's been there.
Dialogue: 0,0:23:09.09,0:23:10.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I think that's critical,
Dialogue: 0,0:23:10.68,0:23:14.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but think right. Think right.
Dialogue: 0,0:23:14.97,0:23:20.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What we need to be called back to
Dialogue: 0,0:23:20.30,0:23:23.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,especially when we're suffering -
Dialogue: 0,0:23:23.98,0:23:26.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(incomplete thought)
Dialogue: 0,0:23:26.74,0:23:29.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I especially think about the Apostle Paul
Dialogue: 0,0:23:29.28,0:23:30.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or the Apostle Peter.
Dialogue: 0,0:23:30.61,0:23:32.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When they're dealing with people
Dialogue: 0,0:23:32.54,0:23:36.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who are suffering, what did they do?
Dialogue: 0,0:23:36.61,0:23:39.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They didn't say just \Nget over it. You're crazy.
Dialogue: 0,0:23:39.07,0:23:44.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They brought truth to appeal to the mind.
Dialogue: 0,0:23:44.74,0:23:46.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's what they did.
Dialogue: 0,0:23:46.33,0:23:49.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They came in and they said look,
Dialogue: 0,0:23:49.90,0:23:51.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we're not going to say
Dialogue: 0,0:23:51.50,0:23:54.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,your suffering isn't suffering.
Dialogue: 0,0:23:54.60,0:24:00.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But, your suffering - it feels long,
Dialogue: 0,0:24:00.78,0:24:05.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it feels hard - it's momentary.
Dialogue: 0,0:24:05.14,0:24:07.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Fifty years from now,
Dialogue: 0,0:24:07.84,0:24:09.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this sister will be with the Lord.
Dialogue: 0,0:24:09.92,0:24:13.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,She'll be in Paradise.
Dialogue: 0,0:24:13.14,0:24:16.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Every tear will be wiped away.
Dialogue: 0,0:24:16.37,0:24:18.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So we need to keep it in perspective.
Dialogue: 0,0:24:18.68,0:24:23.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Momentary, light affliction is all
Dialogue: 0,0:24:23.73,0:24:26.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that our suffering in this life is called.
Dialogue: 0,0:24:26.52,0:24:29.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And it's going to give way,
Dialogue: 0,0:24:29.18,0:24:33.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,give place to an eternal weight of glory.
Dialogue: 0,0:24:33.58,0:24:35.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But you think - you think.
Dialogue: 0,0:24:35.58,0:24:40.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What truths does this woman [need?]
Dialogue: 0,0:24:40.11,0:24:43.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Obviously, the truths of the cross.
Dialogue: 0,0:24:43.08,0:24:47.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The truths of God's forgiveness of her.
Dialogue: 0,0:24:47.39,0:24:53.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's got to be the foundation.
Dialogue: 0,0:24:53.00,0:24:55.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm forgiven.
Dialogue: 0,0:24:55.08,0:24:57.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,After what I've done, I'm forgiven.
Dialogue: 0,0:24:57.86,0:25:03.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,After what I've done to Him, I'm forgiven.
Dialogue: 0,0:25:03.08,0:25:07.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Another thing that is essential
Dialogue: 0,0:25:07.67,0:25:13.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is coming back to the truth,
Dialogue: 0,0:25:13.29,0:25:15.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,God has promised
Dialogue: 0,0:25:15.75,0:25:17.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to never leave us or forsake us.
Dialogue: 0,0:25:17.98,0:25:19.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because you know what the temptation
Dialogue: 0,0:25:19.78,0:25:20.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in trial is.
Dialogue: 0,0:25:20.74,0:25:22.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The devil's right there to say,
Dialogue: 0,0:25:22.33,0:25:24.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Look, God's vacated.
Dialogue: 0,0:25:24.57,0:25:25.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You're on your own.
Dialogue: 0,0:25:25.69,0:25:27.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He's not helping you. He's silent.
Dialogue: 0,0:25:27.58,0:25:29.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You're praying to Him?
Dialogue: 0,0:25:29.90,0:25:32.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This isn't going away.
Dialogue: 0,0:25:32.15,0:25:35.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He's not hearing you."
Dialogue: 0,0:25:35.07,0:25:37.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I know Charles Leiter has said
Dialogue: 0,0:25:37.22,0:25:40.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that the Gardener is never so close
Dialogue: 0,0:25:40.24,0:25:41.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as when He's pruning.
Dialogue: 0,0:25:41.94,0:25:43.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I've come across it somewhere else,
Dialogue: 0,0:25:43.86,0:25:45.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,maybe Matthew Henry,
Dialogue: 0,0:25:45.54,0:25:49.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that the Refiner is never \Nso close to the gold...
Dialogue: 0,0:25:49.60,0:25:51.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You could speak to that.
Dialogue: 0,0:25:51.13,0:25:53.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I mean, you put the silver and gold
Dialogue: 0,0:25:53.01,0:25:54.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the kiln.
Dialogue: 0,0:25:54.17,0:25:56.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You're not far away
Dialogue: 0,0:25:56.89,0:26:00.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when the gold's cooking in the kiln,
Dialogue: 0,0:26:00.30,0:26:03.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and you're getting the impurities out.
Dialogue: 0,0:26:03.64,0:26:05.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And that's the reality.
Dialogue: 0,0:26:05.42,0:26:08.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What we have to be \Nbrought back to is this,
Dialogue: 0,0:26:08.25,0:26:17.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that God is specifically \Nordering my suffering.
Dialogue: 0,0:26:17.22,0:26:20.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We have to be confident in that.
Dialogue: 0,0:26:20.86,0:26:25.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Otherwise, we have no \Nfoundation to stand on.
Dialogue: 0,0:26:25.96,0:26:31.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We have to be able to say
Dialogue: 0,0:26:31.31,0:26:34.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,all things are indeed working \Ntogether for my good.
Dialogue: 0,0:26:34.96,0:26:37.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I have to believe in a God
Dialogue: 0,0:26:37.35,0:26:42.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that is entirely in control
Dialogue: 0,0:26:42.94,0:26:47.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of every nuance of my life,
Dialogue: 0,0:26:47.12,0:26:49.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and that He's guiding.
Dialogue: 0,0:26:49.09,0:26:50.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And that He is the God Who says
Dialogue: 0,0:26:50.85,0:26:53.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He does not willingly \Nafflict the sons of men.
Dialogue: 0,0:26:53.06,0:26:54.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What does that mean? It's the idea
Dialogue: 0,0:26:54.70,0:26:56.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that He doesn't from the heart.
Dialogue: 0,0:26:56.25,0:26:58.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He doesn't because He's cruel.
Dialogue: 0,0:26:58.25,0:27:02.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now look, He's a God Who's just.
Dialogue: 0,0:27:02.76,0:27:05.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But there's sensitivity with God.
Dialogue: 0,0:27:05.25,0:27:09.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I mean, you definitely \Nget the idea in Scripture,
Dialogue: 0,0:27:09.51,0:27:13.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,God does not need to have His arm twisted
Dialogue: 0,0:27:13.03,0:27:15.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to show mercy.
Dialogue: 0,0:27:15.03,0:27:18.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It seems more difficult for \NHim to mete out justice.
Dialogue: 0,0:27:18.79,0:27:23.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But entirely consistent \Nwith His character,
Dialogue: 0,0:27:23.30,0:27:26.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He must.
Dialogue: 0,0:27:26.49,0:27:29.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But just the idea that He's not willing
Dialogue: 0,0:27:29.41,0:27:31.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to afflict the sons of men.
Dialogue: 0,0:27:31.96,0:27:35.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's this idea that God is going to bring
Dialogue: 0,0:27:35.45,0:27:39.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the suffering that's for our good.
Dialogue: 0,0:27:39.15,0:27:44.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'd tell her you don't want to \Nuse your mouth like that
Dialogue: 0,0:27:44.24,0:27:46.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with your husband.
Dialogue: 0,0:27:46.17,0:27:48.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You don't want any profanity to come out.
Dialogue: 0,0:27:48.52,0:27:49.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's wrong.
Dialogue: 0,0:27:49.52,0:27:53.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,No matter what he's done, that's wrong.
Dialogue: 0,0:27:53.18,0:27:58.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And she talks about the \Nrepenting that she does,
Dialogue: 0,0:27:58.52,0:28:01.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but it really needs to be \Nthe kind of repenting
Dialogue: 0,0:28:01.03,0:28:05.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where she eliminates \Nthat from her life totally.
Dialogue: 0,0:28:05.83,0:28:07.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,She needs that.
Dialogue: 0,0:28:07.77,0:28:09.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There needs to be a real holiness
Dialogue: 0,0:28:09.49,0:28:11.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,being worked out there
Dialogue: 0,0:28:11.07,0:28:12.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the fear of God.
Dialogue: 0,0:28:12.24,0:28:14.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There needs to be a cleansing.
Dialogue: 0,0:28:14.61,0:28:17.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The tongue needs to be set in order.
Dialogue: 0,0:28:17.81,0:28:19.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And she needs the grace.
Dialogue: 0,0:28:19.75,0:28:22.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Just because her husband may be
Dialogue: 0,0:28:22.29,0:28:24.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,reopening the wound and triggers may come,
Dialogue: 0,0:28:24.63,0:28:29.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that is no excuse for her to do that.
Dialogue: 0,0:28:29.07,0:28:31.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I mean, we understand the circumstances
Dialogue: 0,0:28:31.80,0:28:33.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and that it's really difficult.
Dialogue: 0,0:28:33.50,0:28:36.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We're not saying it isn't difficult.
Dialogue: 0,0:28:36.57,0:28:37.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It is.
Dialogue: 0,0:28:37.86,0:28:42.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,She's in an incredibly \Ndifficult situation.
Dialogue: 0,0:28:42.59,0:28:44.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I mean, do you ladies have anything
Dialogue: 0,0:28:44.46,0:28:49.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that you would add \Nthat you would tell her?
Dialogue: 0,0:28:49.50,0:28:50.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(from the room)
Dialogue: 0,0:28:50.44,0:28:52.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was just going to ask
Dialogue: 0,0:28:52.06,0:28:53.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on a practical level.
Dialogue: 0,0:28:53.56,0:28:57.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Is there a time when godly counsel
Dialogue: 0,0:28:57.94,0:29:03.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is to go seek help from elders,
Dialogue: 0,0:29:03.96,0:29:05.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from people in your church,
Dialogue: 0,0:29:05.80,0:29:10.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to counsel the two of them together
Dialogue: 0,0:29:10.05,0:29:14.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if he saying that he has repented
Dialogue: 0,0:29:14.40,0:29:15.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and has turned from that,
Dialogue: 0,0:29:15.76,0:29:18.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but there are signs that\Nmaybe that is not true.
Dialogue: 0,0:29:18.78,0:29:21.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Is there a time when it's not just dealt
Dialogue: 0,0:29:21.13,0:29:25.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with the two of them, they need to go out?
Dialogue: 0,0:29:25.19,0:29:28.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Like within their body?
Dialogue: 0,0:29:28.19,0:29:33.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Tim: Yes, I mean, definitely counseling.
Dialogue: 0,0:29:33.09,0:29:37.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Definitely whether that's \Npastoral counseling
Dialogue: 0,0:29:37.09,0:29:38.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with the pastors
Dialogue: 0,0:29:38.91,0:29:41.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or whether there's some kind of counseling
Dialogue: 0,0:29:41.56,0:29:46.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with a counselor,
Dialogue: 0,0:29:46.14,0:29:48.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if both of them can be involved,
Dialogue: 0,0:29:48.87,0:29:51.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that's definitely a good place.
Dialogue: 0,0:29:51.36,0:29:54.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,My assumption in this
Dialogue: 0,0:29:54.77,0:29:56.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is that you have a husband
Dialogue: 0,0:29:56.23,0:30:00.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that's professing to have repented
Dialogue: 0,0:30:00.57,0:30:02.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and he feels like now he's actually
Dialogue: 0,0:30:02.66,0:30:06.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,even reached some state \Nof perfection or something.
Dialogue: 0,0:30:06.77,0:30:10.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The feeling I get is he probably
Dialogue: 0,0:30:10.67,0:30:13.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,isn't a genuine Christian.
Dialogue: 0,0:30:13.14,0:30:14.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now, that still doesn't mean
Dialogue: 0,0:30:14.49,0:30:17.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that there couldn't be some good things
Dialogue: 0,0:30:17.18,0:30:22.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,achieved if you can get \Nthem both into counseling.
Dialogue: 0,0:30:22.08,0:30:29.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But that would be good if \Nhe's willing to do that.
Dialogue: 0,0:30:29.88,0:30:31.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But sometimes I guess we just
Dialogue: 0,0:30:31.88,0:30:36.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,have to recognize
Dialogue: 0,0:30:36.14,0:30:41.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that a guy like this might not be willing.
Dialogue: 0,0:30:41.42,0:30:43.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Without knowing the real details there,
Dialogue: 0,0:30:43.73,0:30:44.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he might not be willing,
Dialogue: 0,0:30:44.96,0:30:48.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or even if he was \Nwilling for a time to go,
Dialogue: 0,0:30:48.09,0:30:49.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if he's not genuinely converted,
Dialogue: 0,0:30:49.99,0:30:52.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,difficult to know how \Nmuch fruit there may be.
Dialogue: 0,0:30:52.99,0:30:55.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Sometimes in these situations
Dialogue: 0,0:30:55.65,0:30:57.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if you've got one that's converted
Dialogue: 0,0:30:57.31,0:30:59.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the other one it's \Npretty obvious they're not,
Dialogue: 0,0:30:59.88,0:31:05.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you really have to focus \Nin on the one that's saved
Dialogue: 0,0:31:05.98,0:31:07.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to do the right thing.
Dialogue: 0,0:31:07.76,0:31:09.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because if the lost member,
Dialogue: 0,0:31:09.66,0:31:11.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,even if they're going to counseling,
Dialogue: 0,0:31:11.71,0:31:14.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they just lack the equipment
Dialogue: 0,0:31:14.08,0:31:19.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to handle this thing in a godly fashion.
Dialogue: 0,0:31:19.02,0:31:20.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And perhaps they even need to be
Dialogue: 0,0:31:20.75,0:31:26.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,dealt with about their false profession.
Dialogue: 0,0:31:26.41,0:31:30.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And the thing is if the Lord's in it,
Dialogue: 0,0:31:30.49,0:31:32.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then yeah, you'll get wonderful fruit,
Dialogue: 0,0:31:32.80,0:31:34.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because if God saves him,
Dialogue: 0,0:31:34.51,0:31:38.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then the thing will really heal.
Dialogue: 0,0:31:38.26,0:31:40.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But if the Lord isn't in it,
Dialogue: 0,0:31:40.77,0:31:43.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,dealing with him like that is probably
Dialogue: 0,0:31:43.20,0:31:46.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,going to chase him away \Nfrom the counseling.
Dialogue: 0,0:31:46.34,0:31:48.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And he will all the more quickly
Dialogue: 0,0:31:48.50,0:31:51.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,not want to be involved.
Dialogue: 0,0:31:51.44,0:31:53.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Somebody had a hand up just now.
Dialogue: 0,0:31:53.17,0:31:54.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(from the room)
Dialogue: 0,0:31:54.38,0:31:56.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was just thinking that she might also
Dialogue: 0,0:31:56.64,0:31:58.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,still be dwelling on it because
Dialogue: 0,0:31:58.34,0:32:03.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he did not confess - he got caught.
Dialogue: 0,0:32:03.47,0:32:04.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So that could be something
Dialogue: 0,0:32:04.88,0:32:09.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that she's still thinking about.
Dialogue: 0,0:32:09.90,0:32:12.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Tim: Yeah, she's going to play \Nit over and over in her mind.
Dialogue: 0,0:32:12.75,0:32:15.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I'll guarantee, we view things
Dialogue: 0,0:32:15.43,0:32:17.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as elders in the church like that.
Dialogue: 0,0:32:17.46,0:32:20.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We take very much into consideration
Dialogue: 0,0:32:20.43,0:32:22.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when sin is exposed -
Dialogue: 0,0:32:22.57,0:32:24.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,did they get caught?
Dialogue: 0,0:32:24.26,0:32:29.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Or did they come and confess?
Dialogue: 0,0:32:29.25,0:32:31.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So often when people get caught,
Dialogue: 0,0:32:31.66,0:32:34.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then they say, "Oh, I repent."
Dialogue: 0,0:32:34.02,0:32:37.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Well, now it's very questionable.
Dialogue: 0,0:32:37.11,0:32:38.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now you got caught.
Dialogue: 0,0:32:38.55,0:32:43.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You were forced to now play the part.
Dialogue: 0,0:32:43.85,0:32:46.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So yes, I think any woman,
Dialogue: 0,0:32:46.66,0:32:49.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that would be a big issue.
Dialogue: 0,0:32:49.47,0:32:54.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That yeah, he didn't come \Nand confess this to me.
Dialogue: 0,0:32:54.60,0:32:56.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He got caught.
Dialogue: 0,0:32:56.64,0:33:00.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then the thing that it seems like
Dialogue: 0,0:33:00.01,0:33:01.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,she's bringing out -
Dialogue: 0,0:33:01.46,0:33:02.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because we've seen this.
Dialogue: 0,0:33:02.75,0:33:04.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We see this with sin.
Dialogue: 0,0:33:04.57,0:33:07.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,A person gets caught.
Dialogue: 0,0:33:07.49,0:33:11.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now they confess, but later
Dialogue: 0,0:33:11.28,0:33:12.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it becomes discovered
Dialogue: 0,0:33:12.86,0:33:15.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that they didn't confess everything.
Dialogue: 0,0:33:15.45,0:33:17.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And now you confront them with the more.
Dialogue: 0,0:33:17.93,0:33:19.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Well, now they confess it.
Dialogue: 0,0:33:19.87,0:33:21.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And now they apparently repent of that.
Dialogue: 0,0:33:21.84,0:33:25.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But you can understand if you're a wife,
Dialogue: 0,0:33:25.19,0:33:27.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it seems like he's repented,
Dialogue: 0,0:33:27.35,0:33:29.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but new things keep coming up
Dialogue: 0,0:33:29.27,0:33:31.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that it's very convenient \Nhe never mentioned.
Dialogue: 0,0:33:31.97,0:33:34.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The thing you're looking \Nfor when somebody repents
Dialogue: 0,0:33:34.39,0:33:36.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is you just lay it all out on the table
Dialogue: 0,0:33:36.41,0:33:38.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so that there's nothing hidden,
Dialogue: 0,0:33:38.11,0:33:40.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,nothing more that's going to come out.
Dialogue: 0,0:33:40.35,0:33:43.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's just there it all is.
Dialogue: 0,0:33:43.30,0:33:45.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm not hiding anything.
Dialogue: 0,0:33:45.12,0:33:47.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because yes, as soon \Nas you've got the idea,
Dialogue: 0,0:33:47.77,0:33:49.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he got caught and he's only
Dialogue: 0,0:33:49.40,0:33:51.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,admitting what he got caught for
Dialogue: 0,0:33:51.12,0:33:52.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and we keep finding out
Dialogue: 0,0:33:52.72,0:33:54.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there's more stuff that's hidden.
Dialogue: 0,0:33:54.82,0:33:56.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's one of the greatest indications
Dialogue: 0,0:33:56.95,0:34:00.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that there is no genuine aspect
Dialogue: 0,0:34:00.71,0:34:02.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to the repentance.
Dialogue: 0,0:34:02.19,0:34:06.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's all a put on.
Dialogue: 0,0:34:06.66,0:34:07.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(from the room)
Dialogue: 0,0:34:07.63,0:34:09.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I also have a thought,
Dialogue: 0,0:34:09.80,0:34:12.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the first letter she talked a lot about
Dialogue: 0,0:34:12.26,0:34:14.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,his response and that at times
Dialogue: 0,0:34:14.32,0:34:17.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,still referring to her as ex-girlfriend
Dialogue: 0,0:34:17.88,0:34:19.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and/or not disclosing everything,
Dialogue: 0,0:34:19.94,0:34:22.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but in the next letter, she was like,
Dialogue: 0,0:34:22.53,0:34:24.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it hasn't all been bad.
Dialogue: 0,0:34:24.86,0:34:27.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There have been times where I have had
Dialogue: 0,0:34:27.80,0:34:30.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,him listen to my concerns.
Dialogue: 0,0:34:30.66,0:34:32.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So it just made me think of when
Dialogue: 0,0:34:32.60,0:34:35.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in 1 Peter it's talking about suffering
Dialogue: 0,0:34:35.28,0:34:38.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and her desire to actually walk
Dialogue: 0,0:34:38.81,0:34:41.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,pleasing to the Lord in that manner.
Dialogue: 0,0:34:41.02,0:34:43.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And in knowing her weaknesses,
Dialogue: 0,0:34:43.88,0:34:45.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,knowing that there's triggers,
Dialogue: 0,0:34:45.51,0:34:48.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,knowing that the devil's \Ngoing to be right there
Dialogue: 0,0:34:48.10,0:34:50.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to tempt her in those weaknesses,
Dialogue: 0,0:34:50.26,0:34:55.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,just what it says in 1 Peter 5:6,
Dialogue: 0,0:34:55.51,0:34:56.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Humble yourselves therefore
Dialogue: 0,0:34:56.88,0:34:58.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,under the mighty hand of God
Dialogue: 0,0:34:58.37,0:34:59.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so that at the proper time
Dialogue: 0,0:34:59.74,0:35:01.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He may exalt you,
Dialogue: 0,0:35:01.06,0:35:03.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,casting all your anxieties on Him
Dialogue: 0,0:35:03.33,0:35:04.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because He cares for you."
Dialogue: 0,0:35:04.68,0:35:06.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then this part where it says,
Dialogue: 0,0:35:06.25,0:35:08.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"be sober-minded,
Dialogue: 0,0:35:08.17,0:35:09.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,be watchful.
Dialogue: 0,0:35:09.19,0:35:11.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Your adversary, the devil, prowls around
Dialogue: 0,0:35:11.84,0:35:13.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like a roaring lion
Dialogue: 0,0:35:13.34,0:35:15.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,seeking someone to devour.
Dialogue: 0,0:35:15.22,0:35:17.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Resist him, firm in your faith,
Dialogue: 0,0:35:17.71,0:35:19.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,knowing that the same kinds of sufferings
Dialogue: 0,0:35:19.88,0:35:21.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are being experienced
Dialogue: 0,0:35:21.23,0:35:23.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,by your brotherhood throughout the world
Dialogue: 0,0:35:23.14,0:35:25.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and after you have \Nsuffered a little while,
Dialogue: 0,0:35:25.20,0:35:27.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the God of all grace Who has called you
Dialogue: 0,0:35:27.06,0:35:28.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to His eternal glory in Christ
Dialogue: 0,0:35:28.94,0:35:31.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,will Himself restore, confirm,
Dialogue: 0,0:35:31.14,0:35:33.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,strengthen, and establish you.
Dialogue: 0,0:35:33.13,0:35:36.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,To Him be the dominion \Nforever and ever, amen."
Dialogue: 0,0:35:36.71,0:35:40.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So it seems like she \Nwants to fight against it
Dialogue: 0,0:35:40.52,0:35:42.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and just trusting in those things
Dialogue: 0,0:35:42.91,0:35:46.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and God's enabled her to fight against it
Dialogue: 0,0:35:46.54,0:35:48.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and to humble herself before Him
Dialogue: 0,0:35:48.39,0:35:51.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and to cast her anxieties on Him
Dialogue: 0,0:35:51.10,0:35:52.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in this season.
Dialogue: 0,0:35:52.57,0:35:55.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It seems like she recognizes
Dialogue: 0,0:35:55.24,0:35:57.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that things are getting \Na little bit better.
Dialogue: 0,0:35:57.58,0:36:06.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,She's enduring and trusting more.
Dialogue: 0,0:36:06.42,0:36:08.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Tim: I'll tell you two \Nother aspects of this
Dialogue: 0,0:36:08.74,0:36:12.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that if she's rightly communicating it
Dialogue: 0,0:36:12.05,0:36:15.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that are pretty good indicators
Dialogue: 0,0:36:15.91,0:36:21.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that his repentance is
Dialogue: 0,0:36:21.15,0:36:23.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,not a godly repentance.
Dialogue: 0,0:36:23.92,0:36:25.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He may have stepped away from this
Dialogue: 0,0:36:25.94,0:36:28.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and he wants to preserve his marriage,
Dialogue: 0,0:36:28.04,0:36:31.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but a good indication \Nit's not godly repentance -
Dialogue: 0,0:36:31.31,0:36:32.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,two aspects that jump out at me
Dialogue: 0,0:36:32.99,0:36:39.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is one, if a man sins \Nagainst his wife that way,
Dialogue: 0,0:36:39.37,0:36:43.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and he knows that calling that girl
Dialogue: 0,0:36:43.59,0:36:47.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,an ex-girlfriend just does not
Dialogue: 0,0:36:47.70,0:36:49.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sit well with her,
Dialogue: 0,0:36:49.78,0:36:52.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he should never do it again.
Dialogue: 0,0:36:52.71,0:36:54.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Another thing that jumps out
Dialogue: 0,0:36:54.78,0:36:58.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is that he would ever fault her
Dialogue: 0,0:36:58.58,0:37:01.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for not getting over it.
Dialogue: 0,0:37:01.47,0:37:03.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,After what he's done,
Dialogue: 0,0:37:03.20,0:37:07.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,his approach should be one of shame,
Dialogue: 0,0:37:07.81,0:37:11.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,not fault-finding with her.
Dialogue: 0,0:37:11.64,0:37:16.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So you can understand
Dialogue: 0,0:37:16.54,0:37:18.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that those things would definitely
Dialogue: 0,0:37:18.89,0:37:27.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,reopen the wounds and be hurtful.
Dialogue: 0,0:37:27.88,0:37:33.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But the thing is, you have to trust,
Dialogue: 0,0:37:33.02,0:37:37.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,yes, the wound keeps getting reopened,
Dialogue: 0,0:37:37.22,0:37:39.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but the Lord's only \Ngoing to let that wound
Dialogue: 0,0:37:39.30,0:37:44.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,be reopened as many times as is necessary.
Dialogue: 0,0:37:44.18,0:37:48.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Never so often that it's cruel.
Dialogue: 0,0:37:48.91,0:37:52.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Never so often as that it's harmful.
Dialogue: 0,0:37:52.46,0:37:55.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He's going to let it happen
Dialogue: 0,0:37:55.52,0:37:59.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as many times as it's useful.
Dialogue: 0,0:37:59.36,0:38:01.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And clearly, she's indicating
Dialogue: 0,0:38:01.24,0:38:06.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that there are some things that do need
Dialogue: 0,0:38:06.06,0:38:12.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to be dredged up out of her own life.
Dialogue: 0,0:38:12.19,0:38:16.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But it's very difficult.
Dialogue: 0,0:38:16.64,0:38:17.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(from the room)
Dialogue: 0,0:38:17.76,0:38:21.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If he continued to refer to the woman
Dialogue: 0,0:38:21.59,0:38:23.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as an ex-girlfriend
Dialogue: 0,0:38:23.34,0:38:27.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and continued in that disrespect to her
Dialogue: 0,0:38:27.78,0:38:34.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as his wife,
Dialogue: 0,0:38:34.15,0:38:36.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,would we call her to continue
Dialogue: 0,0:38:36.47,0:38:39.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to endure the struggle?
Dialogue: 0,0:38:39.71,0:38:41.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Or do you think at that point,
Dialogue: 0,0:38:41.89,0:38:45.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like it's an intentional harm towards her
Dialogue: 0,0:38:45.65,0:38:46.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,by her husband?
Dialogue: 0,0:38:46.75,0:38:48.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Tim: Well, I don't think it's grounds
Dialogue: 0,0:38:48.59,0:38:50.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to try to get out of the marriage.
Dialogue: 0,0:38:50.30,0:38:53.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think she needs to \Nfight for this marriage.
Dialogue: 0,0:38:53.37,0:38:57.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And like I say, I think \Nall the more she's able
Dialogue: 0,0:38:57.68,0:38:59.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,even with him reopening wounds,
Dialogue: 0,0:38:59.42,0:39:02.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,all the more she's able to forgive him,
Dialogue: 0,0:39:02.02,0:39:05.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is all the more Christlike \Nshe comes across.
Dialogue: 0,0:39:05.94,0:39:08.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And you know, the truth is
Dialogue: 0,0:39:08.55,0:39:14.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that 1 Peter 3 reality \Nof seeking to win him
Dialogue: 0,0:39:14.58,0:39:16.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,by her conduct.
Dialogue: 0,0:39:16.35,0:39:18.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I guarantee,
Dialogue: 0,0:39:18.10,0:39:24.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,her throwing a blast of profanity at him
Dialogue: 0,0:39:24.20,0:39:26.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,does not help.
Dialogue: 0,0:39:26.42,0:39:28.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It doesn't help anything.
Dialogue: 0,0:39:28.05,0:39:29.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It doesn't help her.
Dialogue: 0,0:39:29.28,0:39:30.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It doesn't help heal it.
Dialogue: 0,0:39:30.74,0:39:32.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It doesn't help him.
Dialogue: 0,0:39:32.31,0:39:34.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In no way does it help anything.
Dialogue: 0,0:39:34.73,0:39:38.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But if she navigates this thing
Dialogue: 0,0:39:38.37,0:39:40.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with the help of God,
Dialogue: 0,0:39:40.15,0:39:41.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with the grace of God -
Dialogue: 0,0:39:41.76,0:39:44.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and that's like, after what James said,
Dialogue: 0,0:39:44.16,0:39:46.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I have it here -
Dialogue: 0,0:39:46.03,0:39:48.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,don't underestimate the power of prayer.
Dialogue: 0,0:39:48.79,0:39:52.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Don't underestimate the thing that seems
Dialogue: 0,0:39:52.24,0:39:55.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so impossible to let go of or to forgive
Dialogue: 0,0:39:55.55,0:39:57.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or to get over,
Dialogue: 0,0:39:57.83,0:40:01.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the Lord has helped His people
Dialogue: 0,0:40:01.60,0:40:05.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to get over and past every one \Nof those kinds of situations.
Dialogue: 0,0:40:05.74,0:40:07.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And there is grace sufficient.
Dialogue: 0,0:40:07.81,0:40:10.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And people who have experienced it
Dialogue: 0,0:40:10.80,0:40:19.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,can say at times, there is a \Nsupernatural help from God
Dialogue: 0,0:40:19.13,0:40:25.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to forgive or to be able to cover over
Dialogue: 0,0:40:25.89,0:40:29.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or to love.
Dialogue: 0,0:40:29.38,0:40:32.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was just recently talking about
Dialogue: 0,0:40:32.58,0:40:35.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the Wurmbrand book that \Nwas selling for a dollar,
Dialogue: 0,0:40:35.84,0:40:37.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Tortured for Christ."
Dialogue: 0,0:40:37.28,0:40:38.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know, when they were in
Dialogue: 0,0:40:38.75,0:40:40.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,those Romanian prisons,
Dialogue: 0,0:40:40.82,0:40:44.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the more their captors beat them,
Dialogue: 0,0:40:44.80,0:40:47.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the more love they felt for the jailers.
Dialogue: 0,0:40:47.26,0:40:49.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's the guy whipping them,
Dialogue: 0,0:40:49.96,0:40:52.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with every stroke of the whip,
Dialogue: 0,0:40:52.00,0:40:54.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they're feeling greater love
Dialogue: 0,0:40:54.40,0:40:56.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for the guy whipping them.
Dialogue: 0,0:40:56.47,0:40:58.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,How is that?
Dialogue: 0,0:40:58.27,0:41:01.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's just plain supernatural.
Dialogue: 0,0:41:01.58,0:41:04.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But God's in the business \Nof helping His people,
Dialogue: 0,0:41:04.24,0:41:08.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so you cast your cares on Him.
Dialogue: 0,0:41:08.47,0:41:09.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There's a place to come:
Dialogue: 0,0:41:09.84,0:41:13.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Lord, please, he keeps \Nreopening the wound.
Dialogue: 0,0:41:13.43,0:41:14.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know that he is.
Dialogue: 0,0:41:14.86,0:41:17.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know this hurts, Lord.
Dialogue: 0,0:41:17.52,0:41:21.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You don't expect it not to hurt.
Dialogue: 0,0:41:21.40,0:41:24.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I need help. Lord, I need help.
Dialogue: 0,0:41:24.28,0:41:29.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In my own strength, I cannot do this.
Dialogue: 0,0:41:29.08,0:41:33.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You just cast yourself on Him.
Dialogue: 0,0:41:33.55,0:41:35.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And the thing is He helps His people.
Dialogue: 0,0:41:35.71,0:41:37.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He really does.
Dialogue: 0,0:41:37.91,0:41:39.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There's help for her.
Dialogue: 0,0:41:39.38,0:41:41.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I think she's experiencing \Nsome of that help.
Dialogue: 0,0:41:41.95,0:41:43.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But I think there's areas
Dialogue: 0,0:41:43.96,0:41:48.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where there's still defilement
Dialogue: 0,0:41:48.92,0:41:54.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in her own life that needs to be cleansed.
Dialogue: 0,0:41:54.42,0:41:57.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,She needs to control her tongue.
Dialogue: 0,0:41:57.89,0:42:00.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And that doesn't seem like it's in place,
Dialogue: 0,0:42:00.54,0:42:03.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,not if she's letting loose
Dialogue: 0,0:42:03.01,0:42:12.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with a flurry of profanity.
Dialogue: 0,0:42:12.99,0:42:19.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Well, anything else?
Dialogue: 0,0:42:19.82,0:42:21.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(from the room)
Dialogue: 0,0:42:21.01,0:42:22.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I would say to her
Dialogue: 0,0:42:22.72,0:42:24.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to just exhaust every avenue
Dialogue: 0,0:42:24.75,0:42:27.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of overcoming it with love
Dialogue: 0,0:42:27.38,0:42:31.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and persistence in prayer with the Lord.
Dialogue: 0,0:42:31.64,0:42:33.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because the Lord will give you peace
Dialogue: 0,0:42:33.53,0:42:36.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to left or right if you're \Nin prayer about it.
Dialogue: 0,0:42:36.51,0:42:39.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The fear of the Lord overcomes you
Dialogue: 0,0:42:39.30,0:42:42.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and will convict you of the things
Dialogue: 0,0:42:42.06,0:42:43.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,spoken out of turn
Dialogue: 0,0:42:43.57,0:42:46.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or if you made a frown \Nwhen you're offended.
Dialogue: 0,0:42:46.55,0:42:48.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The Lord will convict them right there.
Dialogue: 0,0:42:48.98,0:42:52.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The sanctifying even in that suffering
Dialogue: 0,0:42:52.05,0:42:58.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is good for the offended or the spouse.
Dialogue: 0,0:42:58.14,0:43:01.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And also, in the care of the Lord,
Dialogue: 0,0:43:01.24,0:43:03.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He will direct when \Nthe time is to move on.
Dialogue: 0,0:43:03.96,0:43:08.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because it won't be the \NChristian's desire to move on.
Dialogue: 0,0:43:08.38,0:43:12.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But it will be the Lord's will.
Dialogue: 0,0:43:12.93,0:43:19.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Tim: Yeah, on that note.
Dialogue: 0,0:43:19.20,0:43:21.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is from the chapter,
Dialogue: 0,0:43:21.26,0:43:23.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"The Emotion of Love in Christ."
Dialogue: 0,0:43:23.96,0:43:26.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"How little do we know experimentally
Dialogue: 0,0:43:26.87,0:43:30.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of the love of Christ in our souls
Dialogue: 0,0:43:30.86,0:43:34.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,dislodging slavish fear,
Dialogue: 0,0:43:34.85,0:43:37.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a bondage spirit, unbelieving doubt,
Dialogue: 0,0:43:37.68,0:43:39.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and so enlarging our hearts that we may
Dialogue: 0,0:43:39.87,0:43:43.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,run the way of the Lord's commandments.
Dialogue: 0,0:43:43.38,0:43:45.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And the chiefest is to love.
Dialogue: 0,0:43:45.72,0:43:49.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Bring your heart with its \Nprofoundest emptiness,
Dialogue: 0,0:43:49.76,0:43:52.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,its most startling discovery of sin,
Dialogue: 0,0:43:52.81,0:43:55.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,its lowest frame, its deepest sorrow,
Dialogue: 0,0:43:55.57,0:43:57.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and sink it into the depths
Dialogue: 0,0:43:57.83,0:44:00.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of the Savior's love.
Dialogue: 0,0:44:00.31,0:44:03.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That infinite sea will flow over all,
Dialogue: 0,0:44:03.84,0:44:06.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,erase all, absorb all,
Dialogue: 0,0:44:06.95,0:44:10.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and your soul shall swim and sport
Dialogue: 0,0:44:10.06,0:44:12.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,amid its gentle waves,
Dialogue: 0,0:44:12.72,0:44:15.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,exclaiming in your joy and transport,
Dialogue: 0,0:44:15.61,0:44:18.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,'O the depths...'
Dialogue: 0,0:44:18.11,0:44:20.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The Lord direct your heart
Dialogue: 0,0:44:20.55,0:44:22.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,into the love of God.
Dialogue: 0,0:44:22.60,0:44:25.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Just as it is hard, cold, fickle,
Dialogue: 0,0:44:25.04,0:44:28.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sinful, sad, and sorrowful,
Dialogue: 0,0:44:28.20,0:44:30.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Christ's love touching your hard heart
Dialogue: 0,0:44:30.53,0:44:32.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,will dissolve it.
Dialogue: 0,0:44:32.29,0:44:34.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Touching your cold heart will warm it.
Dialogue: 0,0:44:34.37,0:44:36.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Touching your sinful heart will purify it.
Dialogue: 0,0:44:36.43,0:44:39.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Touching your sorrowful \Nheart will soothe it.
Dialogue: 0,0:44:39.68,0:44:42.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Touching your wandering heart
Dialogue: 0,0:44:42.23,0:44:44.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,will draw it back to Jesus.
Dialogue: 0,0:44:44.87,0:44:49.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Only bring your heart to Christ's love.
Dialogue: 0,0:44:49.19,0:44:51.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Believe in its existence, its reality,
Dialogue: 0,0:44:51.69,0:44:54.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,its fullness, its freeness.
Dialogue: 0,0:44:54.57,0:44:56.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Believe that He loves you
Dialogue: 0,0:44:56.57,0:44:59.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and just as love begets love,
Dialogue: 0,0:44:59.86,0:45:02.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so the simple belief in the love of Jesus
Dialogue: 0,0:45:02.46,0:45:04.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,will inspire you with a reflected
Dialogue: 0,0:45:04.25,0:45:07.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,responsive affection
Dialogue: 0,0:45:07.09,0:45:09.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and your soul like the chrysalis
Dialogue: 0,0:45:09.04,0:45:12.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,will burst from its captivity and gloom
Dialogue: 0,0:45:12.21,0:45:14.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and soaring in life, liberty, and beauty
Dialogue: 0,0:45:14.78,0:45:17.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,will float in the sunbeams of God's full,
Dialogue: 0,0:45:17.60,0:45:19.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,free, and eternal love.
Dialogue: 0,0:45:19.76,0:45:21.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And in a little while, will find itself
Dialogue: 0,0:45:21.95,0:45:26.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in Heaven where all is love."
Dialogue: 0,0:45:26.64,0:45:29.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And she should buy this book.
Dialogue: 0,0:45:29.60,0:45:32.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Seriously.
Dialogue: 0,0:45:32.36,0:45:35.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,For people who are deeply suffering,
Dialogue: 0,0:45:35.55,0:45:39.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like I say, Octavius Winslow.
Dialogue: 0,0:45:39.61,0:45:42.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,One of the greatest books -
Dialogue: 0,0:45:42.59,0:45:47.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,balm for the suffering soul.
Dialogue: 0,0:45:47.05,0:45:49.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Well, let's pray.
Dialogue: 0,0:45:49.16,0:45:52.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Father, we pray that there might be help
Dialogue: 0,0:45:52.28,0:45:53.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for some folks in the things
Dialogue: 0,0:45:53.93,0:45:57.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that were said tonight.
Dialogue: 0,0:45:57.27,0:45:59.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Lord, we pray that You'd use this
Dialogue: 0,0:45:59.64,0:46:02.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in some people's lives for good,
Dialogue: 0,0:46:02.79,0:46:05.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for Your glory, for healing,
Dialogue: 0,0:46:05.39,0:46:10.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for salvation, for help.
Dialogue: 0,0:46:10.10,0:46:11.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Lord, we pray that Your kindness,
Dialogue: 0,0:46:11.70,0:46:14.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that this love that \NOctavius Winslow speaks about,
Dialogue: 0,0:46:14.90,0:46:17.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,oh, Lord, may we know more about it.
Dialogue: 0,0:46:17.99,0:46:19.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Help us to know it
Dialogue: 0,0:46:19.36,0:46:22.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and to swim in the depths of it.
Dialogue: 0,0:46:22.48,0:46:26.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Help this sister, who, Lord,
Dialogue: 0,0:46:26.38,0:46:28.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You've put her in the furnace.
Dialogue: 0,0:46:28.63,0:46:30.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We pray that she would know
Dialogue: 0,0:46:30.68,0:46:34.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the cleansing, purifying grace of God
Dialogue: 0,0:46:34.59,0:46:38.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the midst of those flames.
Dialogue: 0,0:46:38.17,0:46:39.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Help her to endure.
Dialogue: 0,0:46:39.44,0:46:40.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Help her to persevere.
Dialogue: 0,0:46:40.94,0:46:44.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Help her to love her husband
Dialogue: 0,0:46:44.44,0:46:47.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with the love that only You can give.