0:00:01.458,0:00:04.125 I am a capitalist, 0:00:05.458,0:00:08.393 and after a 30-year career in capitalism 0:00:08.417,0:00:10.934 spanning three dozen companies 0:00:10.958,0:00:14.309 generating tens of billions[br]of dollars in market value, 0:00:14.333,0:00:20.208 I'm not just in the top one percent,[br]I'm in the top .01 percent of all earners. 0:00:21.500,0:00:24.518 Today, I have come[br]to share the secrets of our success, 0:00:24.542,0:00:28.726 because rich capitalists like me[br]have never been richer. 0:00:28.750,0:00:31.375 So the question is, how do we do it? 0:00:32.292,0:00:33.851 How do we manage to grab 0:00:33.875,0:00:37.708 an ever-increasing share[br]of the economic pie every year? 0:00:38.875,0:00:42.792 Is it that rich people are smarter[br]than we were 30 years ago? 0:00:43.833,0:00:46.208 Is it that we're working harder[br]than we once did? 0:00:47.500,0:00:50.000 Are we taller, better looking? 0:00:51.292,0:00:52.542 Sadly, no. 0:00:53.542,0:00:56.143 It all comes down to just one thing: 0:00:56.167,0:00:57.417 economics. 0:00:58.250,0:00:59.822 Because, here's the dirty secret. 0:01:00.667,0:01:03.018 There was a time[br]in which the economics profession 0:01:03.042,0:01:04.518 worked in the public interest, 0:01:04.542,0:01:06.434 but in the neoliberal era, 0:01:06.458,0:01:08.184 today, 0:01:08.208,0:01:10.643 they work only for big corporations 0:01:10.667,0:01:12.226 and billionaires, 0:01:12.250,0:01:14.833 and that is creating[br]a little bit of a problem. 0:01:15.792,0:01:19.601 We could choose to enact economic policies 0:01:19.625,0:01:21.500 that raise taxes on the rich, 0:01:22.417,0:01:26.268 regulate powerful corporations,[br]or raise wages for workers. 0:01:26.292,0:01:27.809 We have done it before. 0:01:27.833,0:01:30.309 But neoliberal economists would warn 0:01:30.333,0:01:34.351 that all of these policies[br]would be a terrible mistake, 0:01:34.375,0:01:37.125 because raising taxes[br]always kills economic growth, 0:01:38.083,0:01:40.351 and any form of government regulation 0:01:40.375,0:01:42.059 is inefficient, 0:01:42.083,0:01:44.458 and raising wages always kills jobs. 0:01:45.375,0:01:47.458 Well, as a consequence of that thinking, 0:01:48.542,0:01:52.768 over the last 30 years, in the USA alone, 0:01:52.792,0:01:57.059 the top one percent has grown[br]21 trillion dollars richer 0:01:57.083,0:02:02.518 while the bottom 50 percent[br]have grown 900 billion dollars poorer, 0:02:02.542,0:02:06.434 a pattern of widening inequality[br]that has largely repeated itself 0:02:06.458,0:02:07.934 across the world. 0:02:07.958,0:02:12.601 And yet, as middle class families[br]struggle to get by 0:02:12.625,0:02:16.518 on wages that have not budged[br]in about 40 years, 0:02:16.542,0:02:20.684 neoliberal economists continue to warn[br]that the only reasonable response 0:02:20.708,0:02:24.809 to the painful dislocations[br]of austerity and globalization 0:02:24.833,0:02:27.625 is even more austerity and globalization. 0:02:28.708,0:02:31.625 So, what is a society to do? 0:02:32.833,0:02:35.726 Well, it's superclear to me[br]what we need to do. 0:02:35.750,0:02:37.667 We need a new economics. 0:02:39.167,0:02:43.226 So, economics has been described[br]as the dismal science, 0:02:43.250,0:02:46.351 and for good reason,[br]because as much as it is taught today, 0:02:46.375,0:02:47.976 it isn't a science at all, 0:02:48.000,0:02:51.393 in spite of all[br]of the dazzling mathematics. 0:02:51.417,0:02:54.601 In fact, a growing number[br]of academics and practitioners 0:02:54.625,0:03:00.601 have concluded that neoliberal[br]economic theory is dangerously wrong 0:03:00.625,0:03:04.226 and that today's growing crises[br]of rising inequality 0:03:04.250,0:03:05.934 and growing political instability 0:03:05.958,0:03:11.143 are the direct result[br]of decades of bad economic theory. 0:03:11.167,0:03:17.143 What we now know is that the economics[br]that made me so rich isn't just wrong, 0:03:17.167,0:03:19.184 it's backwards, 0:03:19.208,0:03:21.143 because it turns out 0:03:21.167,0:03:24.934 it isn't capital[br]that creates economic growth, 0:03:24.958,0:03:26.208 it's people; 0:03:27.250,0:03:32.018 and it isn't self-interest[br]that promotes the public good, 0:03:32.042,0:03:33.292 it's reciprocity; 0:03:34.542,0:03:38.809 and it isn't competition[br]that produces our prosperity, 0:03:38.833,0:03:40.458 it's cooperation. 0:03:41.333,0:03:46.351 What we can now see is that an economics[br]that is neither just nor inclusive 0:03:46.375,0:03:50.768 can never sustain the high levels[br]of social cooperation 0:03:50.792,0:03:53.434 necessary to enable[br]a modern society to thrive. 0:03:53.458,0:03:56.042 So where did we go wrong? 0:03:57.250,0:04:01.434 Well, it turns out[br]that it's become painfully obvious 0:04:01.458,0:04:07.476 that the fundamental assumptions[br]that undergird neoliberal economic theory 0:04:07.500,0:04:10.601 are just objectively false, 0:04:10.625,0:04:14.434 and so today first I want to take you[br]through some of those mistaken assumptions 0:04:14.458,0:04:20.500 and then after describe where the science[br]suggests prosperity actually comes from. 0:04:21.416,0:04:25.559 So neoliberal economic[br]assumption number one is 0:04:25.583,0:04:30.018 that the market is[br]an efficient equilibrium system, 0:04:30.042,0:04:36.059 which basically means that if one thing[br]in the economy, like wages, goes up, 0:04:36.083,0:04:40.250 another thing in the economy,[br]like jobs, must go down. 0:04:41.333,0:04:43.708 So for example, in Seattle, where I live, 0:04:44.958,0:04:49.976 when in 2014 we passed[br]our nation's first 15 dollar minimum wage, 0:04:50.000,0:04:54.417 the neoliberals freaked out[br]over their precious equilibrium. 0:04:55.375,0:04:58.226 "If you raise the price[br]of labor," they warned, 0:04:58.250,0:05:00.268 "businesses will purchase less of it. 0:05:00.292,0:05:02.809 Thousands of low-wage workers[br]will lose their jobs. 0:05:02.833,0:05:04.726 The restaurants will close." 0:05:04.750,0:05:06.000 Except ... 0:05:07.000,0:05:08.250 they didn't. 0:05:08.917,0:05:12.125 The unemployment rate fell dramatically. 0:05:13.125,0:05:16.018 The restaurant business in Seattle boomed. 0:05:16.042,0:05:17.292 Why? 0:05:18.083,0:05:20.500 Because there is no equilibrium. 0:05:21.917,0:05:24.726 Because raising wages[br]doesn't kill jobs, it creates them, 0:05:24.750,0:05:26.226 because, for instance, 0:05:26.250,0:05:31.143 when restaurant owners are suddenly[br]required to pay restaurant workers enough 0:05:31.167,0:05:35.184 so that now even they[br]can afford to eat in restaurants, 0:05:35.208,0:05:37.226 it doesn't shrink the restaurant business, 0:05:37.250,0:05:39.458 it grows it, obviously. 0:05:41.333,0:05:42.601 (Applause) 0:05:42.625,0:05:44.042 Thank you. 0:05:46.208,0:05:48.458 The second assumption is 0:05:49.917,0:05:54.893 that the price of something[br]is always equal to its value, 0:05:54.917,0:05:58.476 which basically means[br]that if you earn 50,000 dollars a year 0:05:58.500,0:06:01.434 and I earn 50 million dollars a year, 0:06:01.458,0:06:05.750 that's because I produce[br]a thousand times as much value as you. 0:06:06.583,0:06:08.226 Now, 0:06:08.250,0:06:11.893 it will not surprise you to learn 0:06:11.917,0:06:13.893 that this is a very comforting assumption 0:06:13.917,0:06:16.601 if you're a CEO paying yourself[br]50 million dollars a year 0:06:16.625,0:06:19.559 but paying your workers poverty wages. 0:06:19.583,0:06:23.726 But please, take it from somebody[br]who has run dozens of businesses: 0:06:23.750,0:06:26.143 this is nonsense. 0:06:26.167,0:06:28.559 People are not paid what they are worth. 0:06:28.583,0:06:31.851 They are paid what they have[br]the power to negotiate, 0:06:31.875,0:06:34.643 and wages' falling share of GDP 0:06:34.667,0:06:38.184 is not because workers[br]have become less productive 0:06:38.208,0:06:41.375 but because employers[br]have become more powerful. 0:06:42.333,0:06:43.601 And -- 0:06:43.625,0:06:45.208 (Applause) 0:06:47.167,0:06:52.643 And by pretending that the giant imbalance[br]in power between capital and labor 0:06:52.667,0:06:54.309 doesn't exist, 0:06:54.333,0:06:58.059 neoliberal economic theory[br]became essentially 0:06:58.083,0:07:00.333 a protection racket for the rich. 0:07:01.500,0:07:04.018 The third assumption,[br]and by far the most pernicious, 0:07:04.042,0:07:05.351 is a behavioral model 0:07:05.375,0:07:09.226 that describes human beings[br]as something called "homo economicus," 0:07:09.250,0:07:14.476 which basically means[br]that we are all perfectly selfish, 0:07:14.500,0:07:18.500 perfectly rational[br]and relentlessly self-maximizing. 0:07:19.958,0:07:21.559 But just ask yourselves, 0:07:21.583,0:07:25.393 is it plausible that every single time[br]for your entire life, 0:07:25.417,0:07:27.601 when you did something[br]nice for somebody else, 0:07:27.625,0:07:30.893 all you were doing[br]was maximizing your own utility? 0:07:30.917,0:07:34.768 Is it plausible that when a soldier jumps[br]on a grenade to defend fellow soldiers, 0:07:34.792,0:07:37.518 they're just promoting[br]their narrow self-interest? 0:07:37.542,0:07:39.351 If you think that's nuts, 0:07:39.375,0:07:42.476 contrary to any reasonable[br]moral intuition, 0:07:42.500,0:07:44.309 that's because it is, 0:07:44.333,0:07:46.101 and according to the latest science, 0:07:46.125,0:07:47.768 not true. 0:07:47.792,0:07:50.309 But it is this behavioral model 0:07:50.333,0:07:53.601 which is at the cold, cruel heart[br]of neoliberal economics, 0:07:53.625,0:07:57.309 and it is as morally corrosive 0:07:57.333,0:07:59.851 as it is scientifically wrong, 0:07:59.875,0:08:04.934 because if we accept at face value 0:08:04.958,0:08:07.768 that humans are fundamentally selfish 0:08:07.792,0:08:10.018 and then we look around the world 0:08:10.042,0:08:13.042 at all of the unambiguous[br]prosperity in it, 0:08:14.083,0:08:16.934 then it follows logically, 0:08:16.958,0:08:18.768 then it must be true by definition, 0:08:18.792,0:08:22.643 that billions of individual[br]acts of selfishness 0:08:22.667,0:08:26.684 magically transubstantiate[br]into prosperity and the common good. 0:08:26.708,0:08:29.601 If we humans are merely[br]selfish maximizers, 0:08:29.625,0:08:33.207 then selfishness[br]is the cause of our prosperity. 0:08:34.125,0:08:36.726 Under this economic logic, 0:08:36.750,0:08:38.707 greed is good, 0:08:39.667,0:08:42.018 widening inequality is efficient, 0:08:42.042,0:08:44.393 and the only purpose of the corporation 0:08:44.417,0:08:46.893 can be to enrich shareholders, 0:08:46.917,0:08:50.018 because to do otherwise[br]would be to slow economic growth 0:08:50.042,0:08:51.833 and harm the economy overall. 0:08:53.333,0:08:56.726 And it is this gospel of selfishness 0:08:56.750,0:09:00.976 which forms the ideological cornerstone[br]of neoliberal economics, 0:09:01.000,0:09:04.643 a way of thinking[br]which has produced economic policies 0:09:04.667,0:09:08.393 which have enabled me and my rich buddies[br]in the top one percent 0:09:08.417,0:09:12.375 to grab virtually all of the benefits[br]of growth over the last 40 years. 0:09:13.083,0:09:14.934 But, 0:09:14.958,0:09:17.018 if instead 0:09:17.042,0:09:20.684 we accept the latest empirical research, 0:09:20.708,0:09:24.059 real science, which correctly[br]describes human beings 0:09:24.083,0:09:27.268 as highly cooperative, 0:09:27.292,0:09:28.559 reciprocal 0:09:28.583,0:09:31.518 and intuitively moral creatures, 0:09:31.542,0:09:34.184 then it follows logically 0:09:34.208,0:09:36.726 that it must be cooperation 0:09:36.750,0:09:38.351 and not selfishness 0:09:38.375,0:09:40.143 that is the cause of our prosperity, 0:09:40.167,0:09:42.518 and it isn't our self-interest 0:09:42.542,0:09:45.167 but rather our inherent reciprocity 0:09:46.250,0:09:49.083 that is humanity's economic superpower. 0:09:49.833,0:09:54.309 So at the heart of this new economics 0:09:54.333,0:09:59.101 is a story about ourselves that grants us[br]permission to be our best selves, 0:09:59.125,0:10:02.101 and, unlike the old economics, 0:10:02.125,0:10:04.851 this is a story that is virtuous 0:10:04.875,0:10:07.708 and also has the virtue of being true. 0:10:09.000,0:10:10.893 Now, 0:10:10.917,0:10:13.101 I want to emphasize[br]that this new economics 0:10:13.125,0:10:15.768 is not something I have personally[br]imagined or invented. 0:10:15.792,0:10:18.601 Its theories and models[br]are being developed and refined 0:10:18.625,0:10:20.643 in universities around the world 0:10:20.667,0:10:23.976 building on some of the best[br]new research in economics, 0:10:24.000,0:10:25.893 complexity theory, evolutionary theory, 0:10:25.917,0:10:29.018 psychology, anthropology[br]and other disciplines. 0:10:29.042,0:10:33.851 And although this new economics[br]does not yet have its own textbook 0:10:33.875,0:10:36.226 or even a commonly agreed upon name, 0:10:36.250,0:10:38.268 in broad strokes 0:10:38.292,0:10:42.458 its explanation of where prosperity[br]comes from goes something like this. 0:10:43.458,0:10:48.018 So, market capitalism[br]is an evolutionary system 0:10:48.042,0:10:50.476 in which prosperity emerges 0:10:50.500,0:10:52.059 through a positive feedback loop 0:10:52.083,0:10:57.018 between increasing amounts of innovation[br]and increasing amounts of consumer demand. 0:10:57.042,0:11:01.667 Innovation is the process[br]by which we solve human problems, 0:11:02.583,0:11:05.893 consumer demand is the mechanism[br]through which the market selects 0:11:05.917,0:11:08.309 for useful innovations, 0:11:08.333,0:11:11.559 and as we solve more problems,[br]we become more prosperous. 0:11:11.583,0:11:15.559 But as we become more prosperous, 0:11:15.583,0:11:17.393 our problems and solutions 0:11:17.417,0:11:20.184 become more complex, 0:11:20.208,0:11:23.351 and this increasing technical complexity 0:11:23.375,0:11:27.893 requires ever higher levels[br]of social and economic cooperation 0:11:27.917,0:11:30.809 in order to produce[br]the more highly specialized products 0:11:30.833,0:11:35.125 that define a modern economy. 0:11:36.042,0:11:40.726 Now, the old economics[br]is correct, of course, 0:11:40.750,0:11:44.309 that competition plays a crucial role[br]in how markets work, 0:11:44.333,0:11:46.434 but what it fails to see 0:11:46.458,0:11:51.143 is that it is largely a competition[br]between highly cooperative groups -- 0:11:51.167,0:11:55.934 competition between firms,[br]competition between networks of firms, 0:11:55.958,0:11:58.643 competition between nations -- 0:11:58.667,0:12:02.559 and anyone who has ever run[br]a successful business knows 0:12:02.583,0:12:06.333 that building a cooperative team[br]by including the talents of everyone 0:12:07.792,0:12:12.208 is almost always a better strategy[br]than just a bunch of selfish jerks. 0:12:13.417,0:12:18.250 So how do we leave neoliberalism behind 0:12:20.458,0:12:23.917 and build a more sustainable,[br]more prosperous 0:12:25.042,0:12:28.018 and more equitable society? 0:12:28.042,0:12:31.542 The new economics suggests[br]just five rules of thumb. 0:12:32.042,0:12:38.583 First is that successful economies[br]are not jungles, they're gardens, 0:12:39.667,0:12:43.351 which is to say that markets, 0:12:43.375,0:12:46.167 like gardens, must be tended, 0:12:47.208,0:12:51.934 that the market is the greatest[br]social technology ever invented 0:12:51.958,0:12:53.434 for solving human problems, 0:12:53.458,0:12:58.643 but unconstrained by social norms[br]or democratic regulation, 0:12:58.667,0:13:02.018 markets inevitably create[br]more problems than they solve. 0:13:02.042,0:13:03.309 Climate change, 0:13:03.333,0:13:05.309 the great financial crisis of 2008 0:13:05.333,0:13:07.042 are two easy examples. 0:13:07.500,0:13:10.976 The second rule is 0:13:11.000,0:13:15.000 that inclusion creates economic growth. 0:13:16.208,0:13:18.768 So the neoliberal idea 0:13:18.792,0:13:21.393 that inclusion is this fancy luxury 0:13:21.417,0:13:25.917 to be afforded if and when we have growth[br]is both wrong and backwards. 0:13:27.208,0:13:29.667 The economy is people. 0:13:30.667,0:13:32.726 Including more people in more ways 0:13:32.750,0:13:36.792 is what causes economic growth[br]in market economies. 0:13:37.875,0:13:39.934 The third principle 0:13:39.958,0:13:46.143 is the purpose of the corporation[br]is not merely to enrich shareholders. 0:13:46.167,0:13:49.934 The greatest grift[br]in contemporary economic life 0:13:49.958,0:13:52.934 is the neoliberal idea that[br]the only purpose of the corporation 0:13:52.958,0:13:55.851 and the only responsibility of executives 0:13:55.875,0:13:58.958 is to enrich themselves and shareholders. 0:13:59.958,0:14:05.393 The new economics must and can insist 0:14:05.417,0:14:07.143 that the purpose of the corporation 0:14:07.167,0:14:10.059 is to improve the welfare[br]of all stakeholders: 0:14:10.083,0:14:12.309 customers, workers, 0:14:12.333,0:14:14.417 community and shareholders alike. 0:14:16.208,0:14:18.226 Rule four: 0:14:18.250,0:14:20.458 greed is not good. 0:14:22.583,0:14:26.351 Being rapacious[br]doesn't make you a capitalist, 0:14:26.375,0:14:28.434 it makes you a sociopath. 0:14:28.458,0:14:30.893 (Laughter) 0:14:30.917,0:14:35.018 (Applause) 0:14:35.042,0:14:40.226 And in an economy as dependent[br]upon cooperation at scale as ours, 0:14:40.250,0:14:44.375 sociopathy is as bad for business[br]as it is for society. 0:14:45.375,0:14:46.625 And fifth and finally, 0:14:48.250,0:14:50.667 unlike the laws of physics, 0:14:51.833,0:14:55.375 the laws of economics are a choice. 0:14:56.542,0:14:58.226 Now, neoliberal economic theory 0:14:58.250,0:15:03.268 has sold itself to you[br]as unchangeable natural law, 0:15:03.292,0:15:07.184 when in fact it's social norms[br]and constructed narratives 0:15:07.208,0:15:08.667 based on pseudoscience. 0:15:09.917,0:15:13.434 If we truly want a more equitable, 0:15:13.458,0:15:16.976 more prosperous[br]and more sustainable economy, 0:15:17.000,0:15:19.726 if we want high-functioning democracies 0:15:19.750,0:15:21.976 and civil society, 0:15:22.000,0:15:24.000 we must have a new economics. 0:15:24.792,0:15:26.768 And here's the good news: 0:15:26.792,0:15:28.851 if we want a new economics, 0:15:28.875,0:15:32.768 all we have to do is choose to have it. 0:15:32.792,0:15:34.059 Thank you. 0:15:34.083,0:15:39.042 (Applause) 0:15:51.708,0:15:54.875 Moderator: So Nick,[br]I'm sure you get this question a lot. 0:15:56.333,0:15:59.434 If you're so unhappy[br]with the economic system, 0:15:59.458,0:16:04.184 why not just give all your money away[br]and join the 99 percent? 0:16:04.208,0:16:06.976 Nick Hanauer: Yeah, no, yes, right. 0:16:07.000,0:16:08.934 You get that a lot. You get that a lot. 0:16:08.958,0:16:11.684 "If you care so much about taxes,[br]why don't you pay more, 0:16:11.708,0:16:14.601 and if you care so much about wages,[br]why don't you pay more?" 0:16:14.625,0:16:15.917 And I could do that. 0:16:17.083,0:16:18.601 The problem is, 0:16:18.625,0:16:20.434 it doesn't make that much difference, 0:16:20.458,0:16:22.018 and I have discovered a strategy 0:16:22.042,0:16:24.976 that works literally[br]a hundred thousand times better -- 0:16:25.000,0:16:26.268 Moderator: OK. 0:16:26.292,0:16:29.851 NH: which is to use my money[br]to build narratives and to pass laws 0:16:29.875,0:16:31.934 that will require[br]all the other rich people 0:16:31.958,0:16:34.018 to pay taxes and pay their workers better. 0:16:34.042,0:16:35.851 (Applause) 0:16:35.875,0:16:37.226 And so, for example, 0:16:37.250,0:16:40.601 the 15-dollar minimum wage[br]that we cooked up 0:16:40.625,0:16:42.601 has now affected 30 million workers. 0:16:42.625,0:16:43.893 So that works better. 0:16:43.917,0:16:45.184 Moderator: That's great. 0:16:45.208,0:16:47.851 If you change your mind,[br]we'll find some takers for you. 0:16:47.875,0:16:50.333 NH: OK. Thank you.[br]Moderator: Thank you very much.