0:00:00.912,0:00:04.482 I am a capitalist, 0:00:04.482,0:00:09.586 and after a 30-year career in capitalism 0:00:09.772,0:00:11.330 spanning three dozen companies 0:00:11.330,0:00:14.522 generating tens of billions[br]of dollars in market value, 0:00:14.522,0:00:20.031 I'm not just in the top one percent,[br]I'm in the top 0.1 percent of all earners. 0:00:21.686,0:00:24.755 Today, I have come to share[br]the secrets of our success, 0:00:24.755,0:00:28.756 because rich capitalists like me[br]have never been richer. 0:00:28.953,0:00:31.936 So the question is, how do we do it? 0:00:31.936,0:00:34.129 How do we manage to grab 0:00:34.129,0:00:37.611 an ever-increasing share[br]of the economic pie every year? 0:00:39.008,0:00:42.809 Is it that rich people are smarter[br]than we were 30 years ago? 0:00:44.008,0:00:46.423 Is it that we're working harder[br]than we once did? 0:00:47.732,0:00:50.488 Are we taller, better looking? 0:00:51.497,0:00:53.778 Sadly, no. 0:00:53.778,0:00:56.292 It all comes down to just one thing: 0:00:56.292,0:00:58.238 economics. 0:00:58.238,0:01:00.464 Because, here's the dirty secret. 0:01:00.464,0:01:02.804 There was a time in which[br]the economics profession 0:01:02.804,0:01:04.741 worked in the public interest for everyone 0:01:04.741,0:01:06.820 but in the neoliberal era, 0:01:06.820,0:01:07.869 today, 0:01:07.869,0:01:10.726 they work only for big corporations 0:01:10.726,0:01:12.331 and billionaires, 0:01:12.331,0:01:15.547 and that is creating[br]a little bit of a problem. 0:01:16.012,0:01:19.544 We could choose to enact economic policies 0:01:19.544,0:01:21.892 that raise taxes on the rich, 0:01:21.892,0:01:26.616 regulate powerful corporations,[br]or raise wages for workers. 0:01:26.872,0:01:28.200 We have done it before. 0:01:28.200,0:01:30.498 But neoliberal economists would warn 0:01:30.498,0:01:34.302 that all of these policies[br]would be a terrible mistake, 0:01:34.302,0:01:38.114 because raising taxes[br]always kills economic growth, 0:01:38.114,0:01:40.638 and and any form of government regulation 0:01:40.638,0:01:42.376 is inefficient, 0:01:42.376,0:01:44.916 and raising wages always kills jobs. 0:01:45.773,0:01:48.521 Well, as a consequence of that thinking, 0:01:48.521,0:01:52.930 over the last 30 years, in the USA alone, 0:01:52.930,0:01:57.360 the top one percent has grown[br]21 trillion dollars richer 0:01:57.360,0:02:02.811 while the bottom 50 percent[br]have grown 900 billion dollars poorer, 0:02:02.811,0:02:06.855 a pattern of widening inequality[br]that has largely repeated itself 0:02:06.855,0:02:08.226 across the world. 0:02:08.226,0:02:13.521 And yet, as middle class families[br]struggle to get by 0:02:13.521,0:02:16.789 on wages that have not budged[br]in about 40 years, 0:02:16.789,0:02:20.502 neoliberal economists continue to warn[br]that the only reasonable response 0:02:20.502,0:02:25.266 to the painful dislocations[br]of austerity and globalization 0:02:25.266,0:02:28.921 is even more austerity and globalization. 0:02:29.122,0:02:31.967 So, what is a society to do? 0:02:33.192,0:02:36.107 Well, it's super-clear to me[br]what we need to do. 0:02:36.107,0:02:39.780 We need a new economics. 0:02:39.780,0:02:43.509 So, economics has been described[br]as the dismal science, 0:02:43.509,0:02:44.882 and for good reason, because[br]as much as it is taught today, 0:02:44.882,0:02:51.618 it isn't a science at all, in spite of[br]all of the dazzling mathematics. 0:02:51.618,0:02:54.970 In fact, a growing number[br]of academics and practitioners 0:02:54.970,0:03:00.999 have concluded that neoliberal[br]economic theory is dangerously wrong 0:03:00.999,0:03:04.879 and that today's growing crises[br]of rising inequality 0:03:04.879,0:03:06.552 and growing political instability 0:03:06.552,0:03:11.629 are the direct result of decades[br]of bad economic theory. 0:03:11.629,0:03:17.187 What we now know is that the economics[br]that made me so rich isn't just wrong, 0:03:17.187,0:03:19.520 it's backwards, 0:03:19.520,0:03:22.186 because it turns out 0:03:22.186,0:03:25.174 it isn't capital that creates[br]economic growth, 0:03:25.174,0:03:27.322 it's people; 0:03:27.322,0:03:32.051 and it isn't self-interest[br]that promotes the public good, 0:03:32.051,0:03:34.189 it's reciprocity; 0:03:34.189,0:03:38.962 and it isn't competition[br]that produces our prosperity, 0:03:38.962,0:03:41.066 it's cooperation. 0:03:42.353,0:03:46.141 What we can now see is that an economics[br]that is neither just nor inclusive 0:03:46.141,0:03:50.945 can never sustain the high levels[br]of social cooperation 0:03:50.945,0:03:54.134 necessary to enable[br]a modern society to thrive. 0:03:54.134,0:03:57.544 So where did we go wrong? 0:03:57.712,0:04:01.695 Well, it turns out[br]that it's become painfully obvious 0:04:01.695,0:04:07.519 that the fundamental assumptions[br]that undergird neoliberal economic theory 0:04:07.519,0:04:10.068 are just objectively false, 0:04:10.846,0:04:14.974 and so today first I want to take you[br]through some of those mistaken assumptions 0:04:14.974,0:04:20.481 and then after describe where the science[br]suggests prosperity actually comes from. 0:04:21.707,0:04:25.751 So neoliberal assumption number one is 0:04:25.751,0:04:30.268 that the market is an efficient[br]equilibrium system, 0:04:30.268,0:04:36.078 which basically means that if one thing[br]in the economy, like wages, goes up, 0:04:36.078,0:04:40.258 another thing in the economy,[br]like jobs, must go down. 0:04:41.308,0:04:44.472 So for example, in Seattle, where I live, 0:04:44.472,0:04:50.280 when in 2014 we passed our nation's[br]first 15 dollar minimum wage, 0:04:50.280,0:04:55.275 the neoliberals freaked out[br]over their precious equilibrium. 0:04:55.275,0:04:58.114 "If you raise the price[br]of labor," they warned, 0:04:58.114,0:05:00.532 "business will purchase less of it. 0:05:00.532,0:05:03.100 Thousands of low-wage workers[br]will lose their jobs. 0:05:03.100,0:05:04.849 The restaurants will close." 0:05:04.849,0:05:08.456 Except, they didn't. 0:05:09.155,0:05:13.370 The unemployment rate fell dramatically. 0:05:13.370,0:05:16.368 The restaurant business in Seattle boomed. 0:05:16.368,0:05:18.171 Why? 0:05:18.171,0:05:21.935 Because there is no equilibrium. 0:05:21.935,0:05:25.212 Because raising wages[br]doesn't kill jobs, it creates them, 0:05:25.212,0:05:26.685 because, for instance, 0:05:26.685,0:05:31.433 when restaurant owners are suddenly[br]required to pay restaurant workers enough 0:05:31.433,0:05:35.346 so that now even they can afford[br]to eat in restaurants, 0:05:35.346,0:05:37.606 it doesn't shrink the restaurant business, 0:05:37.606,0:05:40.251 it grows it, obviously. 0:05:40.251,0:05:43.907 (Applause) 0:05:43.907,0:05:45.908 Thank you. 0:05:46.491,0:05:49.736 The second assumption is 0:05:49.736,0:05:55.180 that the price of something[br]is always equal to its value, 0:05:55.180,0:05:58.680 which basically means that[br]if you earn 50,000 dollars a year 0:05:58.680,0:06:01.466 and I earn 50 million dollars a year, 0:06:01.466,0:06:06.545 that's because I produce[br]a thousand times as much value as you. 0:06:06.830,0:06:12.215 Now, it will not surprise you to learn 0:06:12.215,0:06:14.127 that this is a very comforting assumption 0:06:14.127,0:06:16.541 if you're a CEO paying yourself[br]50 million dollars a year 0:06:16.541,0:06:19.203 but paying your workers poverty wages. 0:06:19.783,0:06:24.006 But please, take it from somebody[br]who has run dozens of businesses: 0:06:24.006,0:06:26.498 this is nonsense. 0:06:26.498,0:06:28.813 People are not paid what they are worth. 0:06:28.813,0:06:32.143 They are paid what they have[br]the power to negotiate, 0:06:32.143,0:06:34.816 and wages' falling share of GDP 0:06:34.816,0:06:38.266 is not because workers[br]have become less productive 0:06:38.266,0:06:41.615 but because employers[br]have become more powerful. 0:06:41.615,0:06:44.707 (Applause) 0:06:46.939,0:06:52.697 And by pretending that the giant imbalance[br]in power between capital and labor 0:06:52.697,0:06:54.655 doesn't exist, 0:06:54.655,0:06:58.056 neoliberal economic theory[br]became essentially 0:06:58.056,0:07:01.149 a protection racket for the rich. 0:07:01.806,0:07:04.006 The third assumption,[br]and by far the most pernicious, 0:07:04.006,0:07:05.940 is a behavioral model 0:07:05.940,0:07:09.692 that describes human beings[br]as something called "homo economicus," 0:07:09.692,0:07:14.174 which basically means that[br]we are all perfectly selfish, 0:07:14.174,0:07:18.715 perfectly rational,[br]and relentlessly self-maximizing. 0:07:19.611,0:07:21.872 But just ask yourselves, 0:07:21.872,0:07:25.647 is it plausible that every single time[br]for your entire life, 0:07:25.647,0:07:27.849 when you did something[br]nice for somebody else, 0:07:27.849,0:07:31.186 all you were doing was maximizing[br]your own utility? 0:07:31.186,0:07:34.964 Is it plausible that when a soldier jumps[br]on a grenade to defend fellow soldiers, 0:07:34.964,0:07:37.766 they're just promoting[br]their narrow self-interest? 0:07:37.766,0:07:39.581 If you think that's nuts, 0:07:39.581,0:07:42.722 contrary to any reasonable[br]moral intuition, 0:07:42.722,0:07:44.574 that's because it is, 0:07:44.574,0:07:46.390 and according to the latest science, 0:07:46.390,0:07:48.020 not true. 0:07:48.020,0:07:50.559 But it is this behavioral model 0:07:50.559,0:07:53.900 which is at the cold, cruel heart[br]of neoliberal economics, 0:07:53.900,0:07:58.227 and it is as morally corrosive 0:07:58.227,0:08:00.140 as it is scientifically wrong, 0:08:00.140,0:08:05.176 because if we accept at face value 0:08:05.176,0:08:07.955 that humans are fundamentally selfish 0:08:07.955,0:08:10.045 and then we look around the world 0:08:10.045,0:08:14.014 at all of the unambiguous[br]prosperity in it, 0:08:14.014,0:08:17.332 then it follows logically, 0:08:17.332,0:08:19.098 then it must be true by definition, 0:08:19.098,0:08:22.730 that billions of individual[br]acts of selfishness 0:08:22.730,0:08:26.778 magically transubstantiate[br]into prosperity and the common good. 0:08:26.937,0:08:29.829 If we humans are merely[br]selfish maximizers, 0:08:29.829,0:08:33.374 then selfishness is the cause[br]of our prosperity. 0:08:34.069,0:08:37.026 Under this economic logic, 0:08:37.026,0:08:39.840 greed is good, 0:08:39.840,0:08:42.314 widening inequality is efficient, 0:08:42.314,0:08:44.626 and the only purpose of the corporation 0:08:44.626,0:08:47.069 can be to enrich shareholders, 0:08:47.069,0:08:50.151 because to do otherwise would be[br]to slow economic growth 0:08:50.151,0:08:52.261 and harm the economy overall. 0:08:53.540,0:08:56.857 And it is this gospel of selfishness 0:08:56.857,0:09:01.205 which forms the ideological cornerstone[br]of neoliberal economics, 0:09:01.205,0:09:04.327 a way of thinking which has[br]produced economic policies 0:09:04.327,0:09:08.665 which have enabled me and my rich buddies[br]in the top one percent 0:09:08.665,0:09:13.396 to grab virtually all of the benefits[br]of growth over the last 40 years. 0:09:13.396,0:09:16.707 But, if instead 0:09:16.707,0:09:21.055 we accept the latest empirical research, 0:09:21.055,0:09:24.327 real science, which correctly[br]describes human beings 0:09:24.327,0:09:27.557 as highly cooperative, 0:09:27.557,0:09:28.776 reciprocal, 0:09:28.776,0:09:31.786 and intuitively moral creatures, 0:09:31.786,0:09:34.097 then it follows logically 0:09:34.097,0:09:36.423 that it must be cooperation 0:09:36.423,0:09:38.591 and not selfishness 0:09:38.591,0:09:42.454 that is the cause of our prosperity,[br]and it isn't our self-interest 0:09:42.454,0:09:45.372 but rather our inherent reciprocity 0:09:45.372,0:09:49.098 that is humanity's economic superpower. 0:09:50.112,0:09:54.310 So at the heart of this new economics 0:09:54.310,0:09:59.195 is a story about ourselves that grants us[br]permission to be our best selves, 0:09:59.195,0:10:02.332 and, unlike the old economics, 0:10:02.332,0:10:05.081 this is a story that is virtuous 0:10:05.081,0:10:08.804 and also has the virtue of being true. 0:10:09.217,0:10:13.586 Now, I want to emphasize[br]that this new economics 0:10:13.586,0:10:16.802 is not something I have personally[br]imagined or invented. 0:10:16.802,0:10:19.348 Its theories and models[br]are being developed and refined 0:10:19.348,0:10:21.330 in universities around the world 0:10:21.330,0:10:24.165 building on some of the best[br]new research in economics, 0:10:24.165,0:10:26.521 complexity theory, evolutionary theory, 0:10:26.521,0:10:29.338 psychology, anthropology,[br]and other disciplines. 0:10:29.338,0:10:34.088 And although this new economics[br]does not yet have its own textbook 0:10:34.088,0:10:36.502 or even a commonly agreed upon name, 0:10:36.502,0:10:38.469 in broad strokes 0:10:38.469,0:10:42.949 its explanation of where prosperity[br]comes from goes something like this. 0:10:43.698,0:10:48.084 So, market capitalism[br]is an evolutionary system 0:10:48.084,0:10:50.700 in which prosperity emerges 0:10:50.700,0:10:52.646 through a positive feedback loop 0:10:52.646,0:10:57.090 between increasing amounts of innovation[br]and increasing amounts of consumer demand. 0:10:57.090,0:11:02.802 Innovation is the process[br]by which we solve human problems, 0:11:02.802,0:11:05.992 consumer demand is the mechanism[br]through which the market selects 0:11:05.992,0:11:08.571 for useful innovations, 0:11:08.571,0:11:11.975 and as we solve more problems,[br]we become more prosperous. 0:11:11.975,0:11:15.800 But as we become more prosperous, 0:11:15.800,0:11:17.582 our problems and solutions 0:11:17.582,0:11:20.112 become more complex, 0:11:20.112,0:11:23.436 and this increasing technical complexity 0:11:23.436,0:11:28.049 requires ever higher levels[br]of social and economic cooperation 0:11:28.049,0:11:31.000 in order to produce the more[br]highly specialized products 0:11:31.000,0:11:34.712 that define a modern economy. 0:11:36.361,0:11:40.742 Now, the old economics[br]is correct, of course, 0:11:40.742,0:11:44.463 that competition plays a crucial role[br]in how markets work, 0:11:44.463,0:11:46.473 but what it fails to see 0:11:46.473,0:11:51.442 is that it is largely a competition[br]between highly cooperative groups -- 0:11:51.442,0:11:56.096 competition between firms,[br]competition between networks of firms, 0:11:56.096,0:11:58.956 competition between nations -- 0:11:58.956,0:12:03.139 and anyone who has ever run[br]a successful business knows 0:12:03.139,0:12:06.793 that building a cooperative team[br]by including the talents of everyone 0:12:06.793,0:12:13.303 is almost always a better strategy[br]than just a bunch of selfish jerks. 0:12:13.303,0:12:18.855 So how do we leave neoliberalism behind 0:12:18.855,0:12:23.778 and build a more sustainable,[br]more prosperous, 0:12:23.778,0:12:27.449 and more equitable society? 0:12:28.195,0:12:31.529 The new economics suggests[br]just five rules of thumb. 0:12:32.578,0:12:39.336 First is that successful economies[br]are not jungles, they're gardens, 0:12:39.336,0:12:43.573 which is to say that markets, 0:12:43.573,0:12:47.018 like gardens, must be tended, 0:12:47.018,0:12:52.202 that the market is the greatest[br]social technology ever invented 0:12:52.202,0:12:53.783 for solving human problems, 0:12:53.783,0:12:58.934 but unconstrained by social norms[br]or democratic regulation, 0:12:58.934,0:13:02.385 markets inevitably create[br]more problems than they solve. 0:13:02.385,0:13:03.471 Climate change, 0:13:03.471,0:13:05.688 the great financial crisis of 2008 0:13:05.688,0:13:07.488 are two easy examples. 0:13:07.488,0:13:10.807 The second rule is 0:13:10.807,0:13:16.331 that inclusion creates economic growth. 0:13:16.519,0:13:19.059 So the neoliberal idea 0:13:19.059,0:13:21.296 that inclusion is this fancy luxury 0:13:21.296,0:13:26.611 to be afforded if and when we have growth[br]is both wrong and backwards. 0:13:26.611,0:13:29.995 The economy is people. 0:13:30.668,0:13:32.764 Including more people in more ways 0:13:32.764,0:13:37.046 is what causes economic growth[br]in market economies. 0:13:37.046,0:13:39.975 The third principle 0:13:39.975,0:13:45.408 is the purpose of the corporation[br]is not merely to enrich shareholders. 0:13:46.202,0:13:50.165 The greatest grift[br]in contemporary economic life 0:13:50.165,0:13:53.673 is the neoliberal idea that[br]the only purpose of the corporation 0:13:53.673,0:13:56.416 and the only responsibility of executives 0:13:56.416,0:13:59.349 is to enrich themselves and shareholders. 0:14:00.478,0:14:05.163 The new economics must and can insist 0:14:05.163,0:14:07.265 that the purpose of the corporation 0:14:07.265,0:14:09.827 is to improve the welfare[br]of all stakeholders: 0:14:09.827,0:14:11.917 customers, workers, 0:14:11.917,0:14:14.942 community and shareholders alike. 0:14:15.570,0:14:21.190 Rule four: greed is not good. 0:14:21.985,0:14:26.674 Being rapacious doesn't[br]make you a capitalist, 0:14:26.674,0:14:28.618 it makes you a sociopath. 0:14:28.618,0:14:30.926 (Laughter) 0:14:30.926,0:14:35.125 (Applause) 0:14:35.125,0:14:40.529 And in an economy as dependent[br]upon cooperation at scale as ours, 0:14:40.529,0:14:44.395 sociopathy is as bad for business[br]as it is for society. 0:14:45.606,0:14:48.463 And fifth and finally, 0:14:48.463,0:14:51.755 unlike the laws of physics, 0:14:51.755,0:14:55.357 the laws of economics are a choice. 0:14:56.618,0:14:58.489 Now, neoliberal economic theory 0:14:58.489,0:15:03.194 has sold itself to you[br]as unchangeable natural law, 0:15:03.194,0:15:07.484 when in fact it's social norms[br]and constructive narratives 0:15:07.484,0:15:09.423 based on pseudoscience. 0:15:09.423,0:15:13.800 If we truly want a more equitable, 0:15:13.800,0:15:17.291 more prosperous[br]and more sustainable economy, 0:15:17.291,0:15:19.985 if we want high-functioning democracies 0:15:19.985,0:15:21.955 and civil society, 0:15:21.955,0:15:24.988 we must have a new economics. 0:15:24.988,0:15:26.934 And here's the good news: 0:15:26.934,0:15:28.896 if we want a new economics, 0:15:28.896,0:15:32.550 all we have to do is choose to have it. 0:15:32.550,0:15:34.069 Thank you. 0:15:34.069,0:15:39.031 (Applause) 0:15:51.965,0:15:54.920 Moderator: So Nick, I'm sure[br]you get this question a lot. 0:15:54.920,0:15:59.467 If you're so unhappy[br]with the economic system, 0:15:59.467,0:16:03.467 why not just give all your money away[br]and join the 99 percent? 0:16:03.467,0:16:06.802 Nick Hanauer: Yeah, no, yes, right. 0:16:06.802,0:16:08.901 You get that a lot. You get that a lot. 0:16:08.901,0:16:12.489 "If you care so much about taxes,[br]why don't you pay more, 0:16:12.489,0:16:14.767 and if you care so much about wages,[br]why don't you pay more?" 0:16:14.767,0:16:16.517 And I could do that. 0:16:16.517,0:16:18.622 The problem is, 0:16:18.622,0:16:20.191 it doesn't make that much difference, 0:16:20.191,0:16:21.953 and I have discovered a strategy 0:16:21.953,0:16:25.720 that works literally[br]a hundred thousand times better -- 0:16:25.720,0:16:26.824 Moderator: OK. 0:16:26.824,0:16:30.370 NH: -- which is to use my money[br]to build narratives and to pass laws 0:16:30.370,0:16:32.178 that will require all[br]the other rich people 0:16:32.178,0:16:34.325 to pay taxes and pay their workers better. 0:16:34.325,0:16:36.219 (Applause) 0:16:36.219,0:16:38.581 And so, for example,[br]the 15 dollar minimum wage 0:16:38.581,0:16:42.832 that we cooked up has now affected[br]30 million workers. 0:16:42.832,0:16:44.087 So that works better. 0:16:44.087,0:16:45.194 Moderator: That's great. 0:16:45.194,0:16:46.863 If you change your mind, we'll find[br]some takers for you. 0:16:46.863,0:16:48.014 (Laughter) 0:16:48.014,0:16:49.868 NH: OK. Thank you.[br]Moderator: Thank you very much. 0:16:49.868,0:16:50.440 (Applause)