0:00:00.000,0:00:27.740 rc3 Vorspannmusik: jast another time in paradise, haecksen 0:00:27.740,0:00:37.200 Herald: Hallo zu dem nächsten stream, der[br]diesmal über unsere Versorgung geht. Und 0:00:37.200,0:00:44.080 zwar geht es genau um Reko. Das ist eine[br]Graswurzelbewegung aus Finland, die 0:00:44.080,0:00:52.660 Konsumenten und Produzenten zusammenbringt[br]auf kleiner Ebene um dort einen Einfluß auf dem 0:00:52.660,0:00:57.659 Markt zu gewähren. Julia wird diesem talk[br]in englisch halten. Anschließend gibt es 0:00:57.659,0:01:05.739 noch einen kleines Q&A, das ist im Raum[br]Ada, da müsst ihr dann rüberwechseln. The 0:01:05.739,0:01:12.600 folowing talk will be held in english. The[br]talk is about Reko, it is an agricultural 0:01:12.600,0:01:17.920 grassroot Movement from Finnland. It[br]brings together consumers and the 0:01:17.920,0:01:29.530 producers of the goods on the direct way without[br]the mean of market stopping inbetween. I 0:01:29.530,0:01:35.830 hope lot of new information in this talk.[br]Let's start with it. 0:01:35.830,0:01:43.069 Julia: So hi, everyone. My name is Julia[br]Westberg, and I would like to talk about 0:01:43.069,0:01:49.890 how to hug agriculture today. Well, more[br]specifically about how to create small 0:01:49.890,0:01:56.580 scale, self administrated farmer markets,[br]and the concept is called Reko. So let's 0:01:56.580,0:02:02.520 have a look. Oh, very shortly about me.[br]I'm an environmental scientist, an 0:02:02.520,0:02:07.010 engineer living in Sweden on a small farm,[br]growing a few vegetables, having some 0:02:07.010,0:02:12.490 chickens, and I have been organizing a[br]Reko group for the last three years. My 0:02:12.490,0:02:19.350 favorite vegetable to grow is pumpkin[br]eggplants. And yeah, so farming is an 0:02:19.350,0:02:23.709 interest of mine, but I'm not a[br]professional farmer or doing that full 0:02:23.709,0:02:33.200 time. I will get back to that detail[br]later. And what is Reko? Well, Reko means 0:02:33.200,0:02:40.960 really konsumption hole or could translate to[br]real consumption, and it is a concept that 0:02:40.960,0:02:48.950 came originally from Finland, but has now[br]spread to almost all of Scandinavia. I 0:02:48.950,0:02:54.980 have a small map there that sadly only[br]includes the Swedish markets. We didn't 0:02:54.980,0:03:02.370 find a good comprehensive map that[br]includes Finland and Norway as well. The 0:03:02.370,0:03:08.819 basic ingredients of Reko market or group[br]or however to refer to them, is the direct 0:03:08.819,0:03:16.010 contact between the customer and the[br]person that produced the food. So it is a 0:03:16.010,0:03:23.540 small grassroots movement, so it started[br]from farmers and it's basically very 0:03:23.540,0:03:30.040 unrestricted growing food, selling it[br]directly to people that want to eat it. 0:03:30.040,0:03:37.840 And there is no actual transactions or,[br]well, there's no selling at the meetings. 0:03:37.840,0:03:43.569 The selling happens before online and that[br]is why it doesn't fall under restrictions 0:03:43.569,0:03:48.560 of farmers markets. Because if you want to[br]sell at least in Scandinavia, if you want 0:03:48.560,0:03:55.930 to sell on a farmers market, that is quite[br]a lot of effort to make it to like get 0:03:55.930,0:04:01.730 certifications and to meet certain[br]requirements. And that is hard for small 0:04:01.730,0:04:07.240 scale farmers or, for example, for people[br]that just have a big garden and some 0:04:07.240,0:04:17.380 overproduction. So that makes Reko[br]different and interesting. So Reko groups 0:04:17.380,0:04:23.510 are self organized and they're independent[br]of each other. So as you can see on the 0:04:23.510,0:04:29.889 map, there's quite a few, though they are[br]independent of each other. There is a 0:04:29.889,0:04:36.100 national wide community for support. So a[br]lot of the people that help administrating 0:04:36.100,0:04:41.650 those groups are then in a bigger group,[br]where they can all talk about issues that 0:04:41.650,0:04:47.150 have occurred in the groups or ask how[br]other groups handle situations. But it is 0:04:47.150,0:04:52.349 important to point out that every group[br]makes their own rules and decides how to 0:04:52.349,0:05:00.539 handle things on their own. There is a bit[br]of help. Like, for example, there has been 0:05:00.539,0:05:07.099 material for, for example, the graphical[br]stuff available from people that wanted to 0:05:07.099,0:05:13.639 share that. So then there is, of course,[br]experience from neighbor communities 0:05:13.639,0:05:20.669 normally, that where you can turn to and[br]ask for help. But essentially, every small 0:05:20.669,0:05:26.669 Reko group is, a bunch of people deciding[br]that, Hey, our village or our town should 0:05:26.669,0:05:36.749 have something like this. Let's do it. So,[br]I mean, why should you have something like 0:05:36.749,0:05:43.630 this? You want something like this because[br]you want to know where your tomato is 0:05:43.630,0:05:49.319 coming from, right? Or at least I think[br]that starting to get more important for 0:05:49.319,0:05:56.719 people again. So for the consumer here and[br]with the consumer, I mean, that is, well, 0:05:56.719,0:06:02.520 you that's wanting to buy tomatoes. It's[br]really easy to get super fresh seasonal 0:06:02.520,0:06:08.520 food because the farmers are selling what[br]they have produced this week, maybe even 0:06:08.520,0:06:16.349 that day. And you can meet the producer[br]like, you know, that loss has been growing 0:06:16.349,0:06:22.460 your tomatos. And you know how loss is[br]actually what loss? You can ask loss what 0:06:22.460,0:06:29.069 is using for treatments on his tomato[br]plants as a use again pesticides. And that 0:06:29.069,0:06:34.539 makes it really interesting and you get[br]unique products. So the farmer maybe wants 0:06:34.539,0:06:41.300 to try new sorts or specialies old sorts and[br]all sorts that are really hard to get by. 0:06:41.300,0:06:45.360 And so you can get really this unique[br]products that are really interesting and 0:06:45.360,0:06:50.590 make for such exceptional food. But a[br]supermarket wouldn't be able to provide 0:06:50.590,0:06:57.060 you with that, because some supermarket[br]needs to provide thousands of it. And 0:06:57.060,0:07:01.789 another plus side is really short,[br]transportation's. Reko is very much built 0:07:01.789,0:07:08.210 on local. So hopefully the tomatoes that[br]you're buying are just coming from the 0:07:08.210,0:07:13.669 village next. Well, next door, basically.[br]And that also means that there's a lot 0:07:13.669,0:07:20.169 less waste. You don't need to package[br]things in plastic. You can recycle. You 0:07:20.169,0:07:28.279 can recycle bags. Yeah, it it just makes[br]it a lot more efficient. And why should 0:07:28.279,0:07:36.439 you do it? Why should you do it as a[br]farmer? Well, as a farmer, you have the 0:07:36.439,0:07:42.059 you have it's really it's an easy way to[br]get started. For example, if you stay with 0:07:42.059,0:07:48.210 the tomatoes, maybe someone just has had a[br]lot of tomatoes one year and wants to try. 0:07:48.210,0:07:54.559 How is working out selling the tomatoes[br]and not just giving them away for free? 0:07:54.559,0:08:01.129 And it's it doesn't cost anything to sell[br]food in the Reko group, so you can just 0:08:01.129,0:08:07.020 put out your tomatoes and be like, Hi, I'm[br]selling tomatoes, and that can be the 0:08:07.020,0:08:12.540 start. It was also quite time efficient[br]because there's no middlemen. You don't 0:08:12.540,0:08:15.650 need to meet up with someone else first,[br]and then they will give it to the 0:08:15.650,0:08:22.469 customers you meet directly up with your[br]customer and handing them the food that 0:08:22.469,0:08:31.111 they have been buying from you. So that's[br]very practical. Another point is that you 0:08:31.111,0:08:39.370 can easily sell to positive customers, and[br]that might be not as selfexplanary as the 0:08:39.370,0:08:46.030 other ones, because the positive attitude[br]towards food, I think, is really can be 0:08:46.030,0:08:50.320 really motivated for farmers and small[br]scale farmers that work really hard for 0:08:50.320,0:08:57.610 the products they love. Not really. Quite.[br]Yeah. Driven people that really want to 0:08:57.610,0:09:03.149 provide great food. And it's really[br]amazing when you can then actually sell it 0:09:03.149,0:09:11.310 to people that are equally interested. So[br]that, yeah, that's cool. And you can also 0:09:11.310,0:09:15.839 try out new products quite easily. So as[br]you can tell, you can grow the specific 0:09:15.839,0:09:21.170 kind of vegetable or you can try to make[br]the specific kind of cheese. And then you 0:09:21.170,0:09:26.500 can see, are people interested that were[br]worth actually producing that permanently 0:09:26.500,0:09:30.589 or, well, didn't that really turn off that[br]great and people that weren't interested 0:09:30.589,0:09:34.400 then? It's not the end of the world[br]because you can just just make small trial 0:09:34.400,0:09:41.480 run. And the last thing on here on the[br]slides, but of product planning is 0:09:41.480,0:09:48.820 important as well. Because one of the Reko[br]groups, you know, in advance how actually 0:09:48.820,0:09:55.810 how much you're going to sell that day.[br]And that makes it a lot easier to plan. 0:09:55.810,0:09:59.959 And on the other side, it also the groups[br]can help you, like I said, with 0:09:59.959,0:10:06.399 overproduction. So if you have a lot more[br]than you can, just try to sell it over the 0:10:06.399,0:10:14.670 group, but easier than ever with[br]supermarkets. So yeah, that is basically a 0:10:14.670,0:10:25.870 very, very positive things with the Reko[br]groups and say, let's have a look. That's 0:10:25.870,0:10:37.670 how it's. But I slept there. Yeah. So the Reko[br]group that I have been administrating is 0:10:37.670,0:10:43.490 in a small village called Tybee. It's a[br]lower income area, quite conservative 0:10:43.490,0:11:00.540 structures. And by 2021 we have yeah, 2130[br]members. And we started in 2019. So. Why 0:11:00.540,0:11:04.399 did I mention the small village, low[br]income area, conservative structures? 0:11:04.399,0:11:10.350 Well, basically to tell you that if it[br]works in horby, it can work almost 0:11:10.350,0:11:18.550 everywhere laugh because of the[br]structures here people are not. It's not. 0:11:18.550,0:11:24.970 It's not a hip area. It's not where like[br]ecological food is driving force. 0:11:24.970,0:11:30.530 It's not like that. But like I mentioned[br]earlier, Reko groups make it possible to 0:11:30.530,0:11:38.320 connect with people and to connect to food[br]producers from the area. And I think that 0:11:38.320,0:11:47.089 that is really important and that that has[br]made a big impact. And when we started in 0:11:47.089,0:11:53.230 2019, there were basically we started with[br]five people that grew a bit of food and 0:11:53.230,0:12:02.660 maybe 10 people that felt a bit sorry. So[br]they came. But, Consistency and getting 0:12:02.660,0:12:08.379 out the world, basically telling everyone[br]that they should check out this group and 0:12:08.379,0:12:18.689 that paid of. So that is that's quite[br]quite a success, I would say, although 0:12:18.689,0:12:25.009 there is, of course, it's not really all,[br]it's just easy. What was really important 0:12:25.009,0:12:31.550 for this group was to get a diversity of[br]products that can be a bit difficult 0:12:31.550,0:12:36.689 because, well, people want to buy more[br]than just tomatoes. So to get farmers 0:12:36.689,0:12:43.709 interests that sell different products is[br]really crucial for these kind of groups to 0:12:43.709,0:12:54.010 work. Here's a small comparison that[br]hopefully illustrates that despite having 0:12:54.010,0:13:00.649 well, not as well as wealth a parking lot[br]in 2020, we actually haven't gotten a lot 0:13:00.649,0:13:07.420 bigger from just 2019 to 2020. I realize I[br]didn't have a good picture from 21, so to 0:13:07.420,0:13:17.360 do. Yeah, and one of the important things[br]here that people talk with each other and 0:13:17.360,0:13:22.510 it's like, you see the farmers are[br]actually coming in their cars and just 0:13:22.510,0:13:33.220 delivering the products. So because there[br]can't be any official sales on the spot, 0:13:33.220,0:13:37.439 you don't need any market stance or[br]anything like that. You just need a kind 0:13:37.439,0:13:44.540 of fast meet up. Normally, the meetings[br]are around 30 minutes, sometimes an hour. 0:13:44.540,0:13:50.220 Exchange products. People may make sure[br]everyone is paid and then you're good to 0:13:50.220,0:14:00.399 go. So it's also rather the real. The in-[br]person meetings are rather rather fast. 0:14:00.399,0:14:13.329 And talking a bit about challenges. Well.[br]Like I said, Reko is based on online that 0:14:13.329,0:14:23.709 people make their orders, so. I have a[br]first point accessibility, but I could 0:14:23.709,0:14:32.339 also easily name that in choosing the[br]right platform. In Sweden most of the Reko 0:14:32.339,0:14:40.339 groups are Facebook organized, which well,[br]is not optimal, but it is very easy 0:14:40.339,0:14:47.010 accessible for most people and we haven't[br]been. We have been trying to find a better 0:14:47.010,0:14:53.710 working platform to find a better working[br]solution and haven't really succeeded so 0:14:53.710,0:15:03.170 far. The point is also that a lot of[br]customers for these Reko groups, at least 0:15:03.170,0:15:10.899 in the rural areas on countrysides, are[br]like 50 and upwards and not very technical 0:15:10.899,0:15:18.820 interested. So basically, the internet[br]itself was a big step for this people, and 0:15:18.820,0:15:24.320 now they have slowly understood how well[br]this one platform works. So it's what 0:15:24.320,0:15:29.951 works for them. And yeah, that's[br]definitely a really big challenge, because 0:15:29.951,0:15:36.949 it makes the movement quite dependent on[br]this platform, which is definitely not 0:15:36.949,0:15:44.529 ideal. Another challenge can be [br]payment methods. In Sweden, we have a 0:15:44.529,0:15:51.780 system that makes it very easy to transfer[br]money between people with wireless. But I 0:15:51.780,0:15:58.499 know that, for example, in Germany, that's[br]not as easy. We have a bit of cash that 0:15:58.499,0:16:03.610 people people can normally pay in cash as[br]well, but basically no one wants to do it 0:16:03.610,0:16:14.370 anymore. But making sure payment works is[br]a thing and, well, a lot is really based 0:16:14.370,0:16:24.659 on trust. So upholding trust is also very[br]important within those groups. And you 0:16:24.659,0:16:29.779 need to have a good location, because when[br]you're meeting was like a sad, like 0:16:29.779,0:16:36.860 25 producers can easily can. So[br]25 farmers coming and then maybe 0:16:36.860,0:16:44.560 a 100 people only on a day that on an[br]evening that's that's quite good, 0:16:44.560,0:16:51.329 quite good. But that also needs space. And[br]yeah, you need to make sure that you have 0:16:51.329,0:16:57.029 a place where it's OK to park for half an[br]hour an hour and to have this amount of 0:16:57.029,0:17:07.020 people, of course. But we found that[br]rather easy because, there was a lot of 0:17:07.020,0:17:10.790 companies or just institutions that were[br]like, Oh yeah, right, we have a big 0:17:10.790,0:17:16.370 parking lot. You can use that. So ask[br]around. And while I was around, I mean, 0:17:16.370,0:17:21.050 then it's also very easy to talk to people[br]and just tell them about this group and 0:17:21.050,0:17:28.611 try to spread the word. That comes to[br]another challenge, which is, yeah, getting 0:17:28.611,0:17:33.600 the ball rolling, really getting around[br]things formation let people know that this 0:17:33.600,0:17:39.430 group exists. Let other farmers know that[br]this group exists, but as well. Tell. 0:17:39.430,0:17:44.840 People, everyday people, your parents,[br]your grandmother, your neighbors, your 0:17:44.840,0:17:54.030 colleague, tell everyone that these groups[br]exist and spread the word. And one last 0:17:54.030,0:18:00.500 point of challenges is keeping transport[br]efficient, because the more the group 0:18:00.500,0:18:07.290 grows, the further farmers kind of are[br]willing to drive to sell the products have 0:18:07.290,0:18:13.690 a very successful group, maybe, let's say,[br]50 kilometers away. Maybe it starts to get 0:18:13.690,0:18:19.720 interesting to me to actually go there.[br]And I think it's important to stay true to 0:18:19.720,0:18:26.710 the values of efficient transportation.[br]And by that, to quite close you to the 0:18:26.710,0:18:35.500 mission by making sure that transport is[br]managed efficiently and with as little 0:18:35.500,0:18:42.060 resources as possible. But I mean, here[br]here, it's absolutely possible to find 0:18:42.060,0:18:47.690 flexible solutions. Maybe some farmers[br]actually can take a hitch a ride together 0:18:47.690,0:18:52.180 or something like that. And I know that[br]there is also there have been groups that 0:18:52.180,0:18:58.760 have restricted farmers to a certain range[br]around the town or village there from to 0:18:58.760,0:19:06.570 make sure that that really stays local.[br]And talking about those restricting 0:19:06.570,0:19:11.630 someone, normally those Reko groups are[br]really open, but of course it is a bit of 0:19:11.630,0:19:19.591 a bit difficult where you draw the line[br]for small scale production. And yeah, when 0:19:19.591,0:19:25.950 is a farmer maybe too big, maybe to too[br]much into the commertional production to 0:19:25.950,0:19:32.640 really still should be a part of it? That[br]is definitely an issue that needs to be 0:19:32.640,0:19:37.340 addressed within the group. But normally[br]you have more than one person managing a 0:19:37.340,0:19:43.000 group and like I said, there is a support[br]net, so you're not alone of this kind of 0:19:43.000,0:19:54.050 decisions. So what I want to say is, bild[br]more Reko, maybe try to actually get into 0:19:54.050,0:20:01.760 Germany, try to get it going there. It's[br]basically quite easy to start. You need to 0:20:01.760,0:20:06.830 have a look into local laws and[br]regulation. I was hoping I could do that 0:20:06.830,0:20:12.820 before this talk, but I realized that my[br]knowledge of German law is. Well, yeah, * 0:20:12.820,0:20:21.670 laugh* not not sufficient for that task.[br]And, but have a look, I really want to 0:20:21.670,0:20:27.320 believe that there is a way to make it[br]work and then choose a communication 0:20:27.320,0:20:35.140 platform. Choose a good platform and be[br]aware that most likely the platform you 0:20:35.140,0:20:44.570 choose from the start will be the platform[br]that you will use for this group. Onwards, 0:20:44.570,0:20:49.251 we have had a few groups in Sweden that[br]try to change communication platform after 0:20:49.251,0:21:00.570 a while, and that was very hard for them.[br]So be mindful about it and think about it. 0:21:00.570,0:21:08.090 And. Then, of course, you need to have[br]farmers that are interested in being a 0:21:08.090,0:21:14.800 part of it, and you need to have farmers[br]that want to sell their goods, that are 0:21:14.800,0:21:23.000 well motivated to be a part of really,[br]really cool thing. And like I said before, 0:21:23.000,0:21:31.490 you want to have a wide range of products[br]and producers. So the more diversity, the 0:21:31.490,0:21:42.320 better. Of course, there is always[br]seasonal changes. For example, my tomato 0:21:42.320,0:21:48.070 example is kind of a bad example because[br]there's just so short time in the year 0:21:48.070,0:21:56.750 where actually local farmers can provide[br]tomatoes, of course. But. Find 0:21:56.750,0:22:04.980 farmers that are interested and then talk[br]about what products are possible. We have 0:22:04.980,0:22:10.250 realized the farmers very often just very[br]resourceful of finding alternatives what 0:22:10.250,0:22:17.020 they can sell in the winter, and that's[br]there's a lot of innovation actually 0:22:17.020,0:22:25.330 coming from that. That is really cool to[br]see. And yeah, that's basically what you 0:22:25.330,0:22:32.170 need for starting a Reko group. There[br]would definitely be the possibility to get 0:22:32.170,0:22:40.420 support from the Scandinavian communities[br]and see how they're doing and maybe just 0:22:40.420,0:22:50.820 try to start your own thing. And laugh I[br]realize I'm actually today super fast with 0:22:50.820,0:22:59.150 this talk. So I'm already at my sources.[br]So I was thinking of actually skipping 0:22:59.150,0:23:13.770 this a bit backwards to. Let's go to my[br]first line and talk a bit more a bit more 0:23:13.770,0:23:24.470 about the impacts for both farmer, for the[br]farmers, and that is, we have noticed that 0:23:24.470,0:23:34.580 a really strong. A really strong, a bit[br]unexpected force that happened with these 0:23:34.580,0:23:41.660 groups is the networking effect, because[br]it helps small scale farmers and people 0:23:41.660,0:23:50.290 that are just hobby producers to connect[br]and to meet once, twice a week on this, on 0:23:50.290,0:23:55.400 this group meetings give their product to[br]the customer and then maybe, say, 5 or 0:23:55.400,0:23:59.430 10 more minutes and just chat for each[br]other and be like, Oh, how is this going? 0:23:59.430,0:24:04.420 Oh, how would you deal with that? How are[br]your chickens doing? And well, that sounds 0:24:04.420,0:24:11.000 a bit trivial, but it actually makes a lot[br]of difference, because it helps people to 0:24:11.000,0:24:18.120 connect with their neighbors, a bit more[br]far away neighbors with people that have 0:24:18.120,0:24:24.350 similar interest in producing really great[br]food. And it creates a community that is 0:24:24.350,0:24:31.880 really, really resourceful, supporting and[br]inclusive. And I found that really 0:24:31.880,0:24:38.400 interesting that even in herby, with this[br]rather conservative population, it's 0:24:38.400,0:24:46.130 really worked. And that was a very, I[br]think, very healing, almost healing 0:24:46.130,0:24:50.630 program, process for that village to[br]really see like, Oh, there's so many 0:24:50.630,0:24:58.360 people around here by now making amazing[br]food, growing organic vegetables and being 0:24:58.360,0:25:06.510 curious about that. So this really[br]networking effect is super cool and 0:25:06.510,0:25:14.140 something that we maybe didn't expect to[br]happen that strongly. And of course, it 0:25:14.140,0:25:18.420 works for the consumers as well. They have[br]started to like the people coming to the 0:25:18.420,0:25:24.070 group started to see it. A bit of a social[br]event, though. Well, we all know, what also 0:25:24.070,0:25:30.170 happened 2020. So the social aspect has[br]been no, we were in need of trying to 0:25:30.170,0:25:38.330 minimize that as much as possible. But[br]still, it's networking is a very big part 0:25:38.330,0:25:46.230 of the entire thing. I'm yeah, 2020[br]pandemic. I actually didn't do an extra 0:25:46.230,0:25:52.630 slide about it because I assumed everyone[br]was tired of that already. But from a Reko 0:25:52.630,0:26:01.450 group perspective, it actually did not[br]that much damage. We were never in the 0:26:01.450,0:26:06.630 situation in Sweden, where the regulations[br]would have for would have forbidden to 0:26:06.630,0:26:15.330 have our meetings to exchange the[br]products. So it was more like people 0:26:15.330,0:26:20.320 realized, Oh, this is outside. Oh, here,[br]it's really easy to keep your distance 0:26:20.320,0:26:26.200 because there's not so many people and oh,[br]I can still buy super fresh food, even if 0:26:26.200,0:26:32.620 I don't dare to go into a supermarket. So[br]actually, the pandemic has brought more 0:26:32.620,0:26:39.080 customers to the Reko groups, which was a[br]bit unexpected in the beginning, but 0:26:39.080,0:26:46.910 really, really fun and really cool. And[br]now we will see, it's always a bit like a 0:26:46.910,0:26:55.340 seasonal thing because winter here is not[br]at least in Sweden, not as snowy as one 0:26:55.340,0:27:01.350 wants to believe. It's a lot of rain and[br]windy, and people are not that motivated 0:27:01.350,0:27:05.990 to actually go out and pick up their food.[br]So in winter, normally it's a bit of less 0:27:05.990,0:27:11.820 activity and then picking up on spring[br]weather. Yeah, about the peak in summer 0:27:11.820,0:27:19.010 and early autumn, when there is such a[br]wide range of products available. So there 0:27:19.010,0:27:23.990 is always a bit of the seasonal[br]fluctuation in how many people are 0:27:23.990,0:27:34.480 attending. But that's that's just the way[br]it is. Let's say. Yeah. So there was a lot 0:27:34.480,0:27:45.250 of good reasons why to actually have these[br]Reko groups and. I would really it would 0:27:45.250,0:27:54.650 be really interesting if that would happen[br]to peer groups in Germany. When I did this 0:27:54.650,0:28:01.660 talk, the last time I got a question, if[br]it was comparable to solawi(solidarische 0:28:01.660,0:28:09.770 Landwirtschaft), which I thought I could[br]talk a few shortly about. It has some 0:28:09.770,0:28:16.390 similarities, but I would say the Reko[br]groups are a lot easier accessible for 0:28:16.390,0:28:27.870 farmers than the solawi. So it's basically[br]everyone can participate. There is not a 0:28:27.870,0:28:34.810 lot of limitations to what you need to be[br]able to do to sell food on the market. I 0:28:34.810,0:28:41.020 mean, of course, you need to follow[br]guidelines about food safety and so on. 0:28:41.020,0:28:48.520 But you don't need to be able to promise[br]to be able to deliver, for example, eggs 0:28:48.520,0:28:54.100 all year round. It's totally OK to be[br]there just three or four times per year 0:28:54.100,0:29:00.140 and the rest of the year, you just don't[br]have enough eggs. And so the customer are 0:29:00.140,0:29:05.370 saying different to a solawi, how I've[br]understood it. You don't need to like, 0:29:05.370,0:29:12.580 have a contract and guaranteeing how much[br]you're buying every month so you can stay 0:29:12.580,0:29:17.820 flexible if it's the end of the month and[br]there's really more months left than money 0:29:17.820,0:29:22.610 in your bank account, then you just don't[br]buy from the group. Maybe just that time, 0:29:22.610,0:29:30.220 but next time you're very welcome to. So[br]in my eyes, solawi maybe to a farmer more 0:29:30.220,0:29:36.910 long term solution, more of the more[br]stable income situation. But the Reko 0:29:36.910,0:29:44.710 groups who would allow for a lot more[br]flexibility and. It's easier to get 0:29:44.710,0:29:54.790 started. Yeah.laugh I only took with me[br]the positive points, then I sometimes get 0:29:54.790,0:30:02.230 asked, Oh, but isn't it really expensive[br]to buy so well produced food? And the 0:30:02.230,0:30:09.250 answer is yes and no. Of a lot of products[br]will be more expensive than in a 0:30:09.250,0:30:13.910 supermarket. But because you buy directly[br]from the farmer, the farmers are still 0:30:13.910,0:30:21.480 able to make good prices for really[br]amazing products. So they actually get the 0:30:21.480,0:30:30.311 money they need to be to, to work, to make[br]a living from it. And you still it's it's 0:30:30.311,0:30:39.400 still affordable and because there is[br]exchange between the groups. There's also 0:30:39.400,0:30:46.540 a bit of a control about costs because the[br]farmers basically need to kind of keep an 0:30:46.540,0:30:53.700 even level if there's someone selling[br]eggs, so certain prize. And there's three 0:30:53.700,0:30:58.560 other people selling a lot cheaper eggs[br]that will be a discussion between the 0:30:58.560,0:31:06.400 farmers to actually come to come to an[br]agreement on a fair price for the eggs and 0:31:06.400,0:31:13.000 that self regulate all the regulatory[br]procedure. It's really a great thing. So 0:31:13.000,0:31:18.130 from an administrative point of view, I,[br]well, my group, we were never in need of 0:31:18.130,0:31:23.280 telling someone, you should change your[br]prices or something that is normally taken 0:31:23.280,0:31:30.130 care of more or less by itself and by the[br]people limit. So like, yeah, like most 0:31:30.130,0:31:35.530 grassroots movement, it really is living[br]from the people and need some engagement, 0:31:35.530,0:31:44.600 of course. But once that is rolling, it's[br]really, really great construct, I would 0:31:44.600,0:32:00.700 say, in a really great thing to do. Yes.[br]Say you and some sources and there one is 0:32:00.700,0:32:06.830 called who's holding okat hopp, which is[br]an organization in Sweden that is 0:32:06.830,0:32:18.190 basically something between a club and[br]some kind of political. How to say that 0:32:18.190,0:32:23.700 political ministry? Hmm. laugh I'm[br]actually not really sure about the 0:32:23.700,0:32:29.970 translation there, but they had gotten[br]some money from a European Union fond to 0:32:29.970,0:32:36.510 look into these Reko groups and see how[br]that could support the rural areas and 0:32:36.510,0:32:42.500 countryside in Sweden and how farmers[br]could benefit. So they were helping out a 0:32:42.500,0:32:49.340 bit like I mentioned earlier with graphic[br]material. And yeah, provided provided some 0:32:49.340,0:32:58.080 information. 2020 that man money ran out[br]and I think they are no longer providing 0:32:58.080,0:33:04.580 any kind of help. But since their help was[br]very little from the beginning, it doesn't 0:33:04.580,0:33:12.470 seem to affect the groups at all. I would[br]say so. It was definitely it was nice that 0:33:12.470,0:33:21.490 it was there, but I wouldn't say that some[br]kind of support from governmental support 0:33:21.490,0:33:30.090 is definitely not necessary to be[br]successful with these groups. Yeah, that 0:33:30.090,0:33:39.150 was my talk for today, I hope I will see[br]everyone later for the Q&A and would be 0:33:39.150,0:33:47.560 really great to chat about this. So have a[br]good evening and see you later. 0:33:47.560,0:33:53.230 Herald: Yeah, done. Sage ich noch mal[br]danke schön, 0:33:53.230,0:33:58.570 thank you for[br]watching. That was a very interesting talk 0:33:58.570,0:34:09.159 about how to install influence on ISO or[br]consumer. Oh, if you have any further 0:34:09.159,0:34:18.530 questions you can visit chat in events.[br]Haecksen the awesome ADA ATM. 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