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rc3 Vorspannmusik: jast another time in paradise, haecksen
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Herald: Hallo zu dem nächsten stream, der[br]diesmal über unsere Versorgung geht. Und
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zwar geht es genau um Reko. Das ist eine[br]Graswurzelbewegung aus Finland, die
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Konsumenten und Produzenten zusammenbringt[br]auf kleiner Ebene um dort einen Einfluß auf dem
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Markt zu gewähren. Julia wird diesem talk[br]in englisch halten. Anschließend gibt es
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noch einen kleines Q&A, das ist im Raum[br]Ada, da müsst ihr dann rüberwechseln. The
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folowing talk will be held in english. The[br]talk is about Reko, it is an agricultural
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grassroot Movement from Finnland. It[br]brings together consumers and the
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producers of the goods on the direct way without[br]the mean of market stopping inbetween. I
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hope lot of new information in this talk.[br]Let's start with it.
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Julia: So hi, everyone. My name is Julia[br]Westberg, and I would like to talk about
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how to hug agriculture today. Well, more[br]specifically about how to create small
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scale, self administrated farmer markets,[br]and the concept is called Reko. So let's
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have a look. Oh, very shortly about me.[br]I'm an environmental scientist, an
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engineer living in Sweden on a small farm,[br]growing a few vegetables, having some
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chickens, and I have been organizing a[br]Reko group for the last three years. My
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favorite vegetable to grow is pumpkin[br]eggplants. And yeah, so farming is an
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interest of mine, but I'm not a[br]professional farmer or doing that full
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time. I will get back to that detail[br]later. And what is Reko? Well, Reko means
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really konsumption hole or could translate to[br]real consumption, and it is a concept that
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came originally from Finland, but has now[br]spread to almost all of Scandinavia. I
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have a small map there that sadly only[br]includes the Swedish markets. We didn't
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find a good comprehensive map that[br]includes Finland and Norway as well. The
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basic ingredients of Reko market or group[br]or however to refer to them, is the direct
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contact between the customer and the[br]person that produced the food. So it is a
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small grassroots movement, so it started[br]from farmers and it's basically very
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unrestricted growing food, selling it[br]directly to people that want to eat it.
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And there is no actual transactions or,[br]well, there's no selling at the meetings.
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The selling happens before online and that[br]is why it doesn't fall under restrictions
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of farmers markets. Because if you want to[br]sell at least in Scandinavia, if you want
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to sell on a farmers market, that is quite[br]a lot of effort to make it to like get
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certifications and to meet certain[br]requirements. And that is hard for small
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scale farmers or, for example, for people[br]that just have a big garden and some
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overproduction. So that makes Reko[br]different and interesting. So Reko groups
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are self organized and they're independent[br]of each other. So as you can see on the
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map, there's quite a few, though they are[br]independent of each other. There is a
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national wide community for support. So a[br]lot of the people that help administrating
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those groups are then in a bigger group,[br]where they can all talk about issues that
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have occurred in the groups or ask how[br]other groups handle situations. But it is
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important to point out that every group[br]makes their own rules and decides how to
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handle things on their own. There is a bit[br]of help. Like, for example, there has been
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material for, for example, the graphical[br]stuff available from people that wanted to
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share that. So then there is, of course,[br]experience from neighbor communities
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normally, that where you can turn to and[br]ask for help. But essentially, every small
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Reko group is, a bunch of people deciding[br]that, Hey, our village or our town should
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have something like this. Let's do it. So,[br]I mean, why should you have something like
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this? You want something like this because[br]you want to know where your tomato is
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coming from, right? Or at least I think[br]that starting to get more important for
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people again. So for the consumer here and[br]with the consumer, I mean, that is, well,
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you that's wanting to buy tomatoes. It's[br]really easy to get super fresh seasonal
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food because the farmers are selling what[br]they have produced this week, maybe even
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that day. And you can meet the producer[br]like, you know, that loss has been growing
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your tomatos. And you know how loss is[br]actually what loss? You can ask loss what
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is using for treatments on his tomato[br]plants as a use again pesticides. And that
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makes it really interesting and you get[br]unique products. So the farmer maybe wants
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to try new sorts or specialies old sorts and[br]all sorts that are really hard to get by.
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And so you can get really this unique[br]products that are really interesting and
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make for such exceptional food. But a[br]supermarket wouldn't be able to provide
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you with that, because some supermarket[br]needs to provide thousands of it. And
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another plus side is really short,[br]transportation's. Reko is very much built
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on local. So hopefully the tomatoes that[br]you're buying are just coming from the
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village next. Well, next door, basically.[br]And that also means that there's a lot
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less waste. You don't need to package[br]things in plastic. You can recycle. You
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can recycle bags. Yeah, it it just makes[br]it a lot more efficient. And why should
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you do it? Why should you do it as a[br]farmer? Well, as a farmer, you have the
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you have it's really it's an easy way to[br]get started. For example, if you stay with
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the tomatoes, maybe someone just has had a[br]lot of tomatoes one year and wants to try.
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How is working out selling the tomatoes[br]and not just giving them away for free?
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And it's it doesn't cost anything to sell[br]food in the Reko group, so you can just
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put out your tomatoes and be like, Hi, I'm[br]selling tomatoes, and that can be the
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start. It was also quite time efficient[br]because there's no middlemen. You don't
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need to meet up with someone else first,[br]and then they will give it to the
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customers you meet directly up with your[br]customer and handing them the food that
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they have been buying from you. So that's[br]very practical. Another point is that you
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can easily sell to positive customers, and[br]that might be not as selfexplanary as the
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other ones, because the positive attitude[br]towards food, I think, is really can be
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really motivated for farmers and small[br]scale farmers that work really hard for
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the products they love. Not really. Quite.[br]Yeah. Driven people that really want to
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provide great food. And it's really[br]amazing when you can then actually sell it
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to people that are equally interested. So[br]that, yeah, that's cool. And you can also
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try out new products quite easily. So as[br]you can tell, you can grow the specific
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kind of vegetable or you can try to make[br]the specific kind of cheese. And then you
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can see, are people interested that were[br]worth actually producing that permanently
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or, well, didn't that really turn off that[br]great and people that weren't interested
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then? It's not the end of the world[br]because you can just just make small trial
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run. And the last thing on here on the[br]slides, but of product planning is
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important as well. Because one of the Reko[br]groups, you know, in advance how actually
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how much you're going to sell that day.[br]And that makes it a lot easier to plan.
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And on the other side, it also the groups[br]can help you, like I said, with
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overproduction. So if you have a lot more[br]than you can, just try to sell it over the
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group, but easier than ever with[br]supermarkets. So yeah, that is basically a
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very, very positive things with the Reko[br]groups and say, let's have a look. That's
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how it's. But I slept there. Yeah. So the Reko[br]group that I have been administrating is
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in a small village called Tybee. It's a[br]lower income area, quite conservative
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structures. And by 2021 we have yeah, 2130[br]members. And we started in 2019. So. Why
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did I mention the small village, low[br]income area, conservative structures?
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Well, basically to tell you that if it[br]works in horby, it can work almost
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everywhere laugh because of the[br]structures here people are not. It's not.
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It's not a hip area. It's not where like[br]ecological food is driving force.
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It's not like that. But like I mentioned[br]earlier, Reko groups make it possible to
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connect with people and to connect to food[br]producers from the area. And I think that
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that is really important and that that has[br]made a big impact. And when we started in
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2019, there were basically we started with[br]five people that grew a bit of food and
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maybe 10 people that felt a bit sorry. So[br]they came. But, Consistency and getting
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out the world, basically telling everyone[br]that they should check out this group and
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that paid of. So that is that's quite[br]quite a success, I would say, although
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there is, of course, it's not really all,[br]it's just easy. What was really important
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for this group was to get a diversity of[br]products that can be a bit difficult
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because, well, people want to buy more[br]than just tomatoes. So to get farmers
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interests that sell different products is[br]really crucial for these kind of groups to
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work. Here's a small comparison that[br]hopefully illustrates that despite having
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well, not as well as wealth a parking lot[br]in 2020, we actually haven't gotten a lot
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bigger from just 2019 to 2020. I realize I[br]didn't have a good picture from 21, so to
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do. Yeah, and one of the important things[br]here that people talk with each other and
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it's like, you see the farmers are[br]actually coming in their cars and just
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delivering the products. So because there[br]can't be any official sales on the spot,
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you don't need any market stance or[br]anything like that. You just need a kind
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of fast meet up. Normally, the meetings[br]are around 30 minutes, sometimes an hour.
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Exchange products. People may make sure[br]everyone is paid and then you're good to
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go. So it's also rather the real. The in-[br]person meetings are rather rather fast.
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And talking a bit about challenges. Well.[br]Like I said, Reko is based on online that
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people make their orders, so. I have a[br]first point accessibility, but I could
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also easily name that in choosing the[br]right platform. In Sweden most of the Reko
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groups are Facebook organized, which well,[br]is not optimal, but it is very easy
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accessible for most people and we haven't[br]been. We have been trying to find a better
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working platform to find a better working[br]solution and haven't really succeeded so
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far. The point is also that a lot of[br]customers for these Reko groups, at least
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in the rural areas on countrysides, are[br]like 50 and upwards and not very technical
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interested. So basically, the internet[br]itself was a big step for this people, and
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now they have slowly understood how well[br]this one platform works. So it's what
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works for them. And yeah, that's[br]definitely a really big challenge, because
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it makes the movement quite dependent on[br]this platform, which is definitely not
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ideal. Another challenge can be [br]payment methods. In Sweden, we have a
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system that makes it very easy to transfer[br]money between people with wireless. But I
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know that, for example, in Germany, that's[br]not as easy. We have a bit of cash that
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people people can normally pay in cash as[br]well, but basically no one wants to do it
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anymore. But making sure payment works is[br]a thing and, well, a lot is really based
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on trust. So upholding trust is also very[br]important within those groups. And you
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need to have a good location, because when[br]you're meeting was like a sad, like
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25 producers can easily can. So[br]25 farmers coming and then maybe
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a 100 people only on a day that on an[br]evening that's that's quite good,
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quite good. But that also needs space. And[br]yeah, you need to make sure that you have
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a place where it's OK to park for half an[br]hour an hour and to have this amount of
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people, of course. But we found that[br]rather easy because, there was a lot of
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companies or just institutions that were[br]like, Oh yeah, right, we have a big
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parking lot. You can use that. So ask[br]around. And while I was around, I mean,
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then it's also very easy to talk to people[br]and just tell them about this group and
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try to spread the word. That comes to[br]another challenge, which is, yeah, getting
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the ball rolling, really getting around[br]things formation let people know that this
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group exists. Let other farmers know that[br]this group exists, but as well. Tell.
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People, everyday people, your parents,[br]your grandmother, your neighbors, your
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colleague, tell everyone that these groups[br]exist and spread the word. And one last
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point of challenges is keeping transport[br]efficient, because the more the group
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grows, the further farmers kind of are[br]willing to drive to sell the products have
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a very successful group, maybe, let's say,[br]50 kilometers away. Maybe it starts to get
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interesting to me to actually go there.[br]And I think it's important to stay true to
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the values of efficient transportation.[br]And by that, to quite close you to the
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mission by making sure that transport is[br]managed efficiently and with as little
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resources as possible. But I mean, here[br]here, it's absolutely possible to find
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flexible solutions. Maybe some farmers[br]actually can take a hitch a ride together
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or something like that. And I know that[br]there is also there have been groups that
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have restricted farmers to a certain range[br]around the town or village there from to
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make sure that that really stays local.[br]And talking about those restricting
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someone, normally those Reko groups are[br]really open, but of course it is a bit of
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a bit difficult where you draw the line[br]for small scale production. And yeah, when
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is a farmer maybe too big, maybe to too[br]much into the commertional production to
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really still should be a part of it? That[br]is definitely an issue that needs to be
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addressed within the group. But normally[br]you have more than one person managing a
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group and like I said, there is a support[br]net, so you're not alone of this kind of
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decisions. So what I want to say is, bild[br]more Reko, maybe try to actually get into
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Germany, try to get it going there. It's[br]basically quite easy to start. You need to
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have a look into local laws and[br]regulation. I was hoping I could do that
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before this talk, but I realized that my[br]knowledge of German law is. Well, yeah, *
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laugh* not not sufficient for that task.[br]And, but have a look, I really want to
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believe that there is a way to make it[br]work and then choose a communication
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platform. Choose a good platform and be[br]aware that most likely the platform you
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choose from the start will be the platform[br]that you will use for this group. Onwards,
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we have had a few groups in Sweden that[br]try to change communication platform after
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a while, and that was very hard for them.[br]So be mindful about it and think about it.
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And. Then, of course, you need to have[br]farmers that are interested in being a
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part of it, and you need to have farmers[br]that want to sell their goods, that are
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well motivated to be a part of really,[br]really cool thing. And like I said before,
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you want to have a wide range of products[br]and producers. So the more diversity, the
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better. Of course, there is always[br]seasonal changes. For example, my tomato
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example is kind of a bad example because[br]there's just so short time in the year
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where actually local farmers can provide[br]tomatoes, of course. But. Find
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farmers that are interested and then talk[br]about what products are possible. We have
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realized the farmers very often just very[br]resourceful of finding alternatives what
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they can sell in the winter, and that's[br]there's a lot of innovation actually
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coming from that. That is really cool to[br]see. And yeah, that's basically what you
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need for starting a Reko group. There[br]would definitely be the possibility to get
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support from the Scandinavian communities[br]and see how they're doing and maybe just
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try to start your own thing. And laugh I[br]realize I'm actually today super fast with
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this talk. So I'm already at my sources.[br]So I was thinking of actually skipping
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this a bit backwards to. Let's go to my[br]first line and talk a bit more a bit more
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about the impacts for both farmer, for the[br]farmers, and that is, we have noticed that
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a really strong. A really strong, a bit[br]unexpected force that happened with these
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groups is the networking effect, because[br]it helps small scale farmers and people
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that are just hobby producers to connect[br]and to meet once, twice a week on this, on
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this group meetings give their product to[br]the customer and then maybe, say, 5 or
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10 more minutes and just chat for each[br]other and be like, Oh, how is this going?
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Oh, how would you deal with that? How are[br]your chickens doing? And well, that sounds
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a bit trivial, but it actually makes a lot[br]of difference, because it helps people to
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connect with their neighbors, a bit more[br]far away neighbors with people that have
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similar interest in producing really great[br]food. And it creates a community that is
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really, really resourceful, supporting and[br]inclusive. And I found that really
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interesting that even in herby, with this[br]rather conservative population, it's
0:24:38.400,0:24:46.130
really worked. And that was a very, I[br]think, very healing, almost healing
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program, process for that village to[br]really see like, Oh, there's so many
0:24:50.630,0:24:58.360
people around here by now making amazing[br]food, growing organic vegetables and being
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curious about that. So this really[br]networking effect is super cool and
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something that we maybe didn't expect to[br]happen that strongly. And of course, it
0:25:14.140,0:25:18.420
works for the consumers as well. They have[br]started to like the people coming to the
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group started to see it. A bit of a social[br]event, though. Well, we all know, what also
0:25:24.070,0:25:30.170
happened 2020. So the social aspect has[br]been no, we were in need of trying to
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minimize that as much as possible. But[br]still, it's networking is a very big part
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of the entire thing. I'm yeah, 2020[br]pandemic. I actually didn't do an extra
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slide about it because I assumed everyone[br]was tired of that already. But from a Reko
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group perspective, it actually did not[br]that much damage. We were never in the
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situation in Sweden, where the regulations[br]would have for would have forbidden to
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have our meetings to exchange the[br]products. So it was more like people
0:26:15.330,0:26:20.320
realized, Oh, this is outside. Oh, here,[br]it's really easy to keep your distance
0:26:20.320,0:26:26.200
because there's not so many people and oh,[br]I can still buy super fresh food, even if
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I don't dare to go into a supermarket. So[br]actually, the pandemic has brought more
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customers to the Reko groups, which was a[br]bit unexpected in the beginning, but
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really, really fun and really cool. And[br]now we will see, it's always a bit like a
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seasonal thing because winter here is not[br]at least in Sweden, not as snowy as one
0:26:55.340,0:27:01.350
wants to believe. It's a lot of rain and[br]windy, and people are not that motivated
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to actually go out and pick up their food.[br]So in winter, normally it's a bit of less
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activity and then picking up on spring[br]weather. Yeah, about the peak in summer
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and early autumn, when there is such a[br]wide range of products available. So there
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is always a bit of the seasonal[br]fluctuation in how many people are
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attending. But that's that's just the way[br]it is. Let's say. Yeah. So there was a lot
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of good reasons why to actually have these[br]Reko groups and. I would really it would
0:27:45.250,0:27:54.650
be really interesting if that would happen[br]to peer groups in Germany. When I did this
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talk, the last time I got a question, if[br]it was comparable to solawi(solidarische
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Landwirtschaft), which I thought I could[br]talk a few shortly about. It has some
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similarities, but I would say the Reko[br]groups are a lot easier accessible for
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farmers than the solawi. So it's basically[br]everyone can participate. There is not a
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lot of limitations to what you need to be[br]able to do to sell food on the market. I
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mean, of course, you need to follow[br]guidelines about food safety and so on.
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But you don't need to be able to promise[br]to be able to deliver, for example, eggs
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all year round. It's totally OK to be[br]there just three or four times per year
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and the rest of the year, you just don't[br]have enough eggs. And so the customer are
0:29:00.140,0:29:05.370
saying different to a solawi, how I've[br]understood it. You don't need to like,
0:29:05.370,0:29:12.580
have a contract and guaranteeing how much[br]you're buying every month so you can stay
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flexible if it's the end of the month and[br]there's really more months left than money
0:29:17.820,0:29:22.610
in your bank account, then you just don't[br]buy from the group. Maybe just that time,
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but next time you're very welcome to. So[br]in my eyes, solawi maybe to a farmer more
0:29:30.220,0:29:36.910
long term solution, more of the more[br]stable income situation. But the Reko
0:29:36.910,0:29:44.710
groups who would allow for a lot more[br]flexibility and. It's easier to get
0:29:44.710,0:29:54.790
started. Yeah.laugh I only took with me[br]the positive points, then I sometimes get
0:29:54.790,0:30:02.230
asked, Oh, but isn't it really expensive[br]to buy so well produced food? And the
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answer is yes and no. Of a lot of products[br]will be more expensive than in a
0:30:09.250,0:30:13.910
supermarket. But because you buy directly[br]from the farmer, the farmers are still
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able to make good prices for really[br]amazing products. So they actually get the
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money they need to be to, to work, to make[br]a living from it. And you still it's it's
0:30:30.311,0:30:39.400
still affordable and because there is[br]exchange between the groups. There's also
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a bit of a control about costs because the[br]farmers basically need to kind of keep an
0:30:46.540,0:30:53.700
even level if there's someone selling[br]eggs, so certain prize. And there's three
0:30:53.700,0:30:58.560
other people selling a lot cheaper eggs[br]that will be a discussion between the
0:30:58.560,0:31:06.400
farmers to actually come to come to an[br]agreement on a fair price for the eggs and
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that self regulate all the regulatory[br]procedure. It's really a great thing. So
0:31:13.000,0:31:18.130
from an administrative point of view, I,[br]well, my group, we were never in need of
0:31:18.130,0:31:23.280
telling someone, you should change your[br]prices or something that is normally taken
0:31:23.280,0:31:30.130
care of more or less by itself and by the[br]people limit. So like, yeah, like most
0:31:30.130,0:31:35.530
grassroots movement, it really is living[br]from the people and need some engagement,
0:31:35.530,0:31:44.600
of course. But once that is rolling, it's[br]really, really great construct, I would
0:31:44.600,0:32:00.700
say, in a really great thing to do. Yes.[br]Say you and some sources and there one is
0:32:00.700,0:32:06.830
called who's holding okat hopp, which is[br]an organization in Sweden that is
0:32:06.830,0:32:18.190
basically something between a club and[br]some kind of political. How to say that
0:32:18.190,0:32:23.700
political ministry? Hmm. laugh I'm[br]actually not really sure about the
0:32:23.700,0:32:29.970
translation there, but they had gotten[br]some money from a European Union fond to
0:32:29.970,0:32:36.510
look into these Reko groups and see how[br]that could support the rural areas and
0:32:36.510,0:32:42.500
countryside in Sweden and how farmers[br]could benefit. So they were helping out a
0:32:42.500,0:32:49.340
bit like I mentioned earlier with graphic[br]material. And yeah, provided provided some
0:32:49.340,0:32:58.080
information. 2020 that man money ran out[br]and I think they are no longer providing
0:32:58.080,0:33:04.580
any kind of help. But since their help was[br]very little from the beginning, it doesn't
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seem to affect the groups at all. I would[br]say so. It was definitely it was nice that
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it was there, but I wouldn't say that some[br]kind of support from governmental support
0:33:21.490,0:33:30.090
is definitely not necessary to be[br]successful with these groups. Yeah, that
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was my talk for today, I hope I will see[br]everyone later for the Q&A and would be
0:33:39.150,0:33:47.560
really great to chat about this. So have a[br]good evening and see you later.
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