[Script Info] Title: [Events] Format: Layer, Start, End, Style, Name, MarginL, MarginR, MarginV, Effect, Text Dialogue: 0,0:00:26.11,0:00:28.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Man VO] Let there be light. Dialogue: 0,0:00:32.67,0:00:37.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He can't hide, try as he might. Dialogue: 0,0:00:37.93,0:00:42.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,♪♪♪ Dialogue: 0,0:00:42.97,0:00:47.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,A man at night making a pathetic\Nattempt at connection... Dialogue: 0,0:00:47.18,0:00:49.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[spraying] Dialogue: 0,0:00:49.75,0:00:53.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to connect with\Nanyone in an empty room. Dialogue: 0,0:00:56.51,0:01:00.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Have you ever danced with the\Ndevil in the pale moonlight? Dialogue: 0,0:01:01.17,0:01:03.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,♪♪♪ Dialogue: 0,0:01:03.67,0:01:05.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Here is the man. Dialogue: 0,0:01:07.94,0:01:10.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Here is the man. Dialogue: 0,0:01:10.79,0:01:12.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Here is the man. Dialogue: 0,0:01:14.65,0:01:17.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I've seen the man perform. Dialogue: 0,0:01:17.85,0:01:20.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I've seen the man try and hide. Dialogue: 0,0:01:36.90,0:01:38.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[man] Okay, ready to roll? Dialogue: 0,0:01:40.32,0:01:41.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[woman] You can stand\Nup straight, Alex. Dialogue: 0,0:01:41.47,0:01:42.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Alex] Yeah, is it okay? Dialogue: 0,0:01:42.45,0:01:43.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-[woman] Yeah.\N-[woman] Yeah, that's fine. Dialogue: 0,0:01:43.52,0:01:44.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-[woman] We could reach you.\N-[woman] We can reach. Dialogue: 0,0:01:44.20,0:01:44.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Alex] Okay. Dialogue: 0,0:01:45.22,0:01:46.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[woman] It was just for the\Ntop of your head I needed... Dialogue: 0,0:01:46.56,0:01:47.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Alex] Okay. Dialogue: 0,0:01:50.96,0:02:00.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,♪ curious jazzy music ♪ Dialogue: 0,0:02:05.00,0:02:08.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Alex VO] These characters or\Nimages or objects exist within a Dialogue: 0,0:02:08.16,0:02:09.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,world of dreams. Dialogue: 0,0:02:15.56,0:02:22.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,♪ curious electronic music ♪ Dialogue: 0,0:02:24.63,0:02:27.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I just want to have my mind\Nbe freer than it is and Dialogue: 0,0:02:27.98,0:02:31.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that doesn't come easy to me,\Nso to spend time with these Dialogue: 0,0:02:31.98,0:02:37.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,characters in this devotional\Nresearch-based way is to say, Dialogue: 0,0:02:37.25,0:02:39.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"I don't know if\NI'll ever change, Dialogue: 0,0:02:39.32,0:02:42.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but I try to, at least." Dialogue: 0,0:02:42.72,0:02:45.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There is distance between myself\Nand the people in the past who Dialogue: 0,0:02:45.88,0:02:47.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,have influenced me. Dialogue: 0,0:02:49.09,0:02:52.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If I think of some kind\Nof icon as a flat symbol, Dialogue: 0,0:02:52.70,0:02:54.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,how do I give it depth? Dialogue: 0,0:02:54.75,0:02:57.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I want that, I think, of the\Npeople I admire or the people Dialogue: 0,0:02:57.75,0:02:59.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that confuse me. Dialogue: 0,0:02:59.55,0:03:01.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I want depth. Dialogue: 0,0:03:15.73,0:03:17.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Alex] There we go. Dialogue: 0,0:03:19.45,0:03:22.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Uh, wait, but is it all\Nthe way up on the shoulder? Dialogue: 0,0:03:22.22,0:03:23.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[man] Yes. Dialogue: 0,0:03:26.24,0:03:30.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Alex VO] I had a kind of very\Nlong and winding path to be an artist. Dialogue: 0,0:03:32.20,0:03:36.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was a young person in my early\N20s and studying animation, Dialogue: 0,0:03:36.00,0:03:40.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I didn't know how to go\Nforward to-- if I wanted to make Dialogue: 0,0:03:40.79,0:03:43.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sculpture, I just\Ndidn't know how to proceed. Dialogue: 0,0:03:44.75,0:03:47.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,All of the people making\Nsculpture were using the wood Dialogue: 0,0:03:47.30,0:03:50.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,shop or the metal shop, and\Nthose places did not feel safe Dialogue: 0,0:03:50.30,0:03:51.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for a young gay guy. Dialogue: 0,0:03:51.48,0:03:55.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Like, I didn't know how\Nto find myself there. Dialogue: 0,0:03:55.00,0:03:57.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When I was sort of feeling like\NI was at an impasse and kind of Dialogue: 0,0:03:57.88,0:03:59.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,had... Dialogue: 0,0:04:00.51,0:04:03.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,had some time to think about how\NI wanted to make a sculpture, Dialogue: 0,0:04:04.11,0:04:07.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I looked to my\Ngrandmother and started sewing. Dialogue: 0,0:04:07.25,0:04:10.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In particular, I made\Nthis large ketchup bottle. Dialogue: 0,0:04:12.62,0:04:20.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,♪ dreamy ambient music ♪ Dialogue: 0,0:04:21.94,0:04:24.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I filmed myself performing\Nthis thing where I replicated a Dialogue: 0,0:04:24.51,0:04:27.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,photograph of Claes Oldenburg\Ncarrying a toothpaste bottle Dialogue: 0,0:04:27.14,0:04:29.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,down the street but this\Nwas a large ketchup bottle, Dialogue: 0,0:04:29.19,0:04:31.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I walked through the streets\Nof Philadelphia with this big Dialogue: 0,0:04:31.28,0:04:32.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,ketchup bottle. Dialogue: 0,0:04:33.37,0:04:37.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And that was my sort of first\Nentry into sculpture and also Dialogue: 0,0:04:37.17,0:04:41.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sewing as this kind of powerful\Nact of finding yourself. Dialogue: 0,0:04:42.96,0:04:46.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,♪♪♪ Dialogue: 0,0:04:46.81,0:04:49.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This idea of\Nembracing these things, Dialogue: 0,0:04:49.06,0:04:53.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,softening these things that seem\Nto be hard is my way of taking Dialogue: 0,0:04:53.47,0:04:56.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,down that machismo\Na notch and to say, like, Dialogue: 0,0:04:56.55,0:04:59.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"There's room\Nfor a gentler, Dialogue: 0,0:04:59.03,0:05:04.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,more tender way of understanding\Nwhat it means to be human." Dialogue: 0,0:05:05.36,0:05:08.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,♪♪♪ Dialogue: 0,0:05:08.60,0:05:11.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Everyone I work with is doing\Nthe same thing and wanting the Dialogue: 0,0:05:11.73,0:05:13.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,same thing of their lives. Dialogue: 0,0:05:14.86,0:05:17.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There's a whole community of\Npeople working towards something Dialogue: 0,0:05:17.82,0:05:19.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,new and unknown. Dialogue: 0,0:05:19.55,0:05:21.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,None of us know what\Nthis will be in the end, Dialogue: 0,0:05:21.98,0:05:25.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and that, I think, is-- that's\Nwhy we all come to the studio Dialogue: 0,0:05:25.67,0:05:30.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,every day is, like, to just\Nget into what we don't know. Dialogue: 0,0:05:32.97,0:05:35.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We'll just see how\Nfar this gets us. Dialogue: 0,0:05:35.33,0:05:39.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,♪♪♪ Dialogue: 0,0:05:39.62,0:05:41.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yeah, I mean this\Nwill change tomorrow, Dialogue: 0,0:05:41.56,0:05:42.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but that's... Dialogue: 0,0:05:44.60,0:05:46.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what we want. Dialogue: 0,0:05:50.32,0:05:54.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,♪♪♪ Dialogue: 0,0:05:58.87,0:06:05.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So this is a remake of\NClaes Oldenburg's Mouse Museum, Dialogue: 0,0:06:05.38,0:06:10.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it's a work that he\Ninitially made for Documenta. Dialogue: 0,0:06:11.97,0:06:17.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I remember, like, wanting\Nto just be around stuff, Dialogue: 0,0:06:17.75,0:06:20.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,small plastic objects. Dialogue: 0,0:06:20.33,0:06:22.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,My room growing up\Nprobably had just, like, Dialogue: 0,0:06:22.14,0:06:25.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,lots of buckets of this\Nkinds of stuff that I would Dialogue: 0,0:06:25.39,0:06:26.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,collect. Dialogue: 0,0:06:26.96,0:06:31.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I have sort of amassed\Nall of my objects and small Dialogue: 0,0:06:31.39,0:06:35.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sculptures that I've made and\Nthings that are important to me, Dialogue: 0,0:06:36.03,0:06:40.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,things that just kind of made\Nup my sculptural vocabulary, Dialogue: 0,0:06:40.47,0:06:41.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but in miniature. Dialogue: 0,0:06:41.90,0:06:45.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This little Big Bird mockup,\Nthis was sort of the genesis of Dialogue: 0,0:06:45.64,0:06:47.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the work for The Met. Dialogue: 0,0:06:49.68,0:06:53.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Alex VO] My work, when I'm\Nreplicating something, Dialogue: 0,0:06:53.28,0:06:55.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,doesn't end with\Nreplica, 'cause for me, Dialogue: 0,0:06:55.95,0:07:00.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's also important to collage\Nwhat has been replicated and put Dialogue: 0,0:07:00.03,0:07:02.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it into a new world. Dialogue: 0,0:07:05.00,0:07:10.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,♪ uplifting ethereal music ♪ Dialogue: 0,0:07:10.24,0:07:14.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It allows for those characters\Nor images or objects to exist Dialogue: 0,0:07:14.78,0:07:19.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,within a world where logic is\Nkind of reinvented or paused or Dialogue: 0,0:07:19.39,0:07:23.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,slowed down or reversed,\Nand what we think we know Dialogue: 0,0:07:23.72,0:07:27.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and how we think things\Nshould be is now undone. Dialogue: 0,0:07:30.86,0:07:33.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I guess at an early age, when I\Nsaid I wanted to be an artist, Dialogue: 0,0:07:33.65,0:07:38.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I just thought that was\Nmaking Disney drawings. Dialogue: 0,0:07:40.44,0:07:44.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I wanted to participate in the\Nmagical world that that space Dialogue: 0,0:07:44.33,0:07:46.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,allowed me to exist in. Dialogue: 0,0:07:48.10,0:07:50.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I grew up in the suburbs\Nof Jersey and Pittsburgh, Dialogue: 0,0:07:50.84,0:07:53.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I grew up in\NCaracas, Venezuela. Dialogue: 0,0:07:53.32,0:07:55.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,As a young person, when\Nyou move around a lot, Dialogue: 0,0:07:55.81,0:08:00.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it can be unsettling, and so\NI think that's kind of how I Dialogue: 0,0:08:00.63,0:08:02.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,became a dreamer -- Dialogue: 0,0:08:03.21,0:08:05.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because I was living in a\Nplace and then leaving the Dialogue: 0,0:08:05.92,0:08:09.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,place, and then you long for\Nthe place that you were living. Dialogue: 0,0:08:09.77,0:08:12.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You kind of live in some sort\Nof space that's not actually Dialogue: 0,0:08:12.48,0:08:15.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,underfoot but quite\Nfar away in your mind. Dialogue: 0,0:08:15.30,0:08:18.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,♪♪♪ Dialogue: 0,0:08:18.62,0:08:22.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The homes I'm making,\Nthey're very fragmented. Dialogue: 0,0:08:22.03,0:08:25.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They're collages of many\Nplaces and many versions, Dialogue: 0,0:08:25.15,0:08:26.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think, of myself. Dialogue: 0,0:08:28.60,0:08:34.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,♪♪♪ Dialogue: 0,0:08:41.54,0:08:47.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,How does one look forward and\Nthen also understand the past Dialogue: 0,0:08:47.47,0:08:49.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and where they came from? Dialogue: 0,0:08:49.38,0:08:53.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I have always come to this\Nparticular gallery for this Dialogue: 0,0:08:53.83,0:08:55.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Brancusi. Dialogue: 0,0:08:56.50,0:09:00.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,How I have always understood\NBrancusi was this notion that, Dialogue: 0,0:09:00.52,0:09:02.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like, the sculpture -- Dialogue: 0,0:09:02.28,0:09:05.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from the top\Nto the ground -- Dialogue: 0,0:09:06.48,0:09:08.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is all one. Dialogue: 0,0:09:10.00,0:09:14.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Your foundation or what might be\Na pedestal is actually part of Dialogue: 0,0:09:14.53,0:09:17.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the work, and as\NI interpret that, Dialogue: 0,0:09:17.22,0:09:22.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,our roots and our history\Nmatters as much as what is Dialogue: 0,0:09:22.23,0:09:26.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,present or what we see or\Nwhat is visible at the top. Dialogue: 0,0:09:27.55,0:09:31.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so then I think, again,\Nabout this work and how to Dialogue: 0,0:09:31.26,0:09:33.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,respond to it or unravel it. Dialogue: 0,0:09:33.46,0:09:36.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think that's often what I want\Nwhen I spend time with these Dialogue: 0,0:09:36.10,0:09:39.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,works is to say, "It\Nworked for you then, Dialogue: 0,0:09:39.25,0:09:40.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but how can it work for me now? Dialogue: 0,0:09:40.86,0:09:42.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And let's hug it out." Dialogue: 0,0:09:43.41,0:09:48.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,♪♪♪ Dialogue: 0,0:10:06.97,0:10:10.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[figure in video]\NWhen I saw you... Dialogue: 0,0:10:10.72,0:10:13.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and that girl talking… Dialogue: 0,0:10:15.00,0:10:21.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,♪♪♪ Dialogue: 0,0:10:40.53,0:10:42.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Scott] All right,\Nlet's go ahead and roll. Dialogue: 0,0:10:42.95,0:10:43.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,All right, ready? Dialogue: 0,0:10:43.91,0:10:45.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And... Dialogue: 0,0:10:46.53,0:10:47.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,action. Dialogue: 0,0:10:55.100,0:10:58.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Alex] So we could cut to some\Nkind of version of that. Dialogue: 0,0:10:58.57,0:11:00.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Scott] Oh yeah, we\Ncan use a piece of it. Dialogue: 0,0:11:00.31,0:11:01.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Do you wanna do it\Nagain or move on? Dialogue: 0,0:11:01.77,0:11:02.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Alex] Let's do one more. Dialogue: 0,0:11:02.67,0:11:03.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Scott] Okay, cool. Dialogue: 0,0:11:08.36,0:11:11.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,♪ soft piano music ♪ Dialogue: 0,0:11:11.68,0:11:15.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Today, Alex is shooting this\Nsequence of the film in which Dialogue: 0,0:11:15.28,0:11:18.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Marcel Duchamp gets dressed\Ninto drag as Rrose Sélavy, Dialogue: 0,0:11:18.67,0:11:21.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which is a fictional persona\Nthat Duchamp came up with, Dialogue: 0,0:11:21.75,0:11:26.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and he's going to be performing\Na song under a pink spotlight. Dialogue: 0,0:11:31.14,0:11:32.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Alex VO] You know, my parents\Npulled me aside and said, Dialogue: 0,0:11:32.64,0:11:34.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Well, what does it mean?" [chuckles] Dialogue: 0,0:11:34.19,0:11:38.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They were like, "Why ketchup\Nand why these characters?" Dialogue: 0,0:11:39.33,0:11:42.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I was like, "These\Nare my safe spaces." Dialogue: 0,0:11:44.11,0:11:47.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And as strange as\Nmy ideas may be, Dialogue: 0,0:11:48.14,0:11:52.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to make sure that they still can\Ncommunicate some sort of kernel Dialogue: 0,0:11:52.69,0:11:55.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of what it means to be human,\Nthat's what matters to me; Dialogue: 0,0:11:55.66,0:11:58.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that's, like, the driving force\Nof why I work and how I work, Dialogue: 0,0:11:58.65,0:11:59.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think. Dialogue: 0,0:12:00.99,0:12:04.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Rrose Selavy] [in robotic voice] \N♪ Why do birds ♪ Dialogue: 0,0:12:04.68,0:12:07.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,♪ Suddenly appear ♪ Dialogue: 0,0:12:07.58,0:12:10.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[applause] Dialogue: 0,0:12:10.50,0:12:12.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,♪ Every time ♪ Dialogue: 0,0:12:13.97,0:12:15.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,♪ That you're near? ♪ Dialogue: 0,0:12:15.72,0:12:17.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,♪ Ooh-wee baby ♪ Dialogue: 0,0:12:19.04,0:12:21.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,♪ Just like me ♪ Dialogue: 0,0:12:22.91,0:12:25.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,♪ They long to be... ♪ Dialogue: 0,0:12:25.24,0:12:27.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Alex VO] Walking the line\Nbetween the person that you Dialogue: 0,0:12:27.25,0:12:29.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,really are and the person that\Nyou long to be or the person Dialogue: 0,0:12:29.76,0:12:32.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that you once were, Dialogue: 0,0:12:32.20,0:12:36.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we are constantly negotiating and \Nrenegotiating those things to be, Dialogue: 0,0:12:36.79,0:12:39.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you know, the perfect human. Dialogue: 0,0:12:39.60,0:12:42.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I don't know if I'll\Never fully understand it, Dialogue: 0,0:12:42.72,0:12:46.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but I know that one puts things\Ninto the world because they want Dialogue: 0,0:12:46.21,0:12:50.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to ask questions, and I\Nhope I learn something new. Dialogue: 0,0:12:50.43,0:13:00.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,♪♪♪ Dialogue: 0,0:13:00.69,0:13:04.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,♪ And that is why ♪ Dialogue: 0,0:13:15.96,0:13:23.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,♪ soft uplifting music ♪