The big installations not only include the creation of or the choice of the text, but then have much to do with filling of the space.

And then have to do with the programming often of the electronics and that programming includes pauses, flashes, phrasing, and more.

I really like the programming aspect.

I was a type setter and type setting is not unlike programming, you have to make it correct, complete, pretty, and fitted.

The presentation needs to make sense with the content and then needs to engage people.

I don’t know how to program, so I am as often is the case reliant upon others. We will have our ideas about what’s going to happen

and then we go and see if our ideas were right. If it’s boring, if it seems wrong for the content,

if it doesn’t fill the space. There are many ways to have it wrong and often you can't tell until you are there.

I hope the installations are atmospheric. I want color to suffuse the space and pulse and do all kinds of tricks.