1 00:00:00,330 --> 00:00:01,830 - I am excited that you're here. 2 00:00:01,830 --> 00:00:03,510 I'm excited about Khanmigo. 3 00:00:03,510 --> 00:00:06,870 I'm excited because, well, for a number of reasons. 4 00:00:06,870 --> 00:00:09,330 Again, I know technology can sometimes be 5 00:00:09,330 --> 00:00:10,620 a little bit scary, right? 6 00:00:10,620 --> 00:00:12,870 Like, oh my gosh, where's this going? What are we gonna do? 7 00:00:12,870 --> 00:00:14,760 How's this gonna work out? 8 00:00:14,760 --> 00:00:17,880 But at the same time, there are opportunities for it 9 00:00:17,880 --> 00:00:22,880 to really give you a boost in your classrooms. 10 00:00:23,220 --> 00:00:26,790 And there's a lot of products out there. 11 00:00:26,790 --> 00:00:28,019 Like I literally, 12 00:00:28,019 --> 00:00:30,360 I don't wanna put this to the Khanmigo folks, 13 00:00:30,360 --> 00:00:32,430 as I told Jason recently, like, 14 00:00:32,430 --> 00:00:35,430 I think I probably get like two or three calls a week 15 00:00:35,430 --> 00:00:38,640 from vendors who are selling a variety of products, really. 16 00:00:38,640 --> 00:00:42,270 And truthfully, they just feel like output machines, 17 00:00:42,270 --> 00:00:45,030 you know, it's like just having a ChatGPT engine, 18 00:00:45,030 --> 00:00:47,220 but they put a nice pretty interface on it 19 00:00:47,220 --> 00:00:51,270 as opposed to this is a platform that is interactive, right? 20 00:00:51,270 --> 00:00:54,450 And the Writing Coach is one of my favorite elements 21 00:00:54,450 --> 00:00:57,090 that you guys are gonna be dealing with today 22 00:00:57,090 --> 00:00:59,670 because the number one, you know, one of the things that 23 00:00:59,670 --> 00:01:01,207 you always hear people say like, 24 00:01:01,207 --> 00:01:03,210 "Well, the kids are just gonna be cheating." 25 00:01:03,210 --> 00:01:04,890 Well, actually we've kind of solved some of that, 26 00:01:04,890 --> 00:01:07,227 haven't we? As you learn how some of this works. 27 00:01:07,227 --> 00:01:09,180 And so you can get the best of both worlds. 28 00:01:09,180 --> 00:01:14,180 You can like harness the power of AI, you know, 29 00:01:14,550 --> 00:01:17,370 but also allow kids and allow kids to learn 30 00:01:17,370 --> 00:01:19,620 and stuff like that, but not have the whole 31 00:01:19,620 --> 00:01:21,360 like, well, they're just using it to cheat 32 00:01:21,360 --> 00:01:22,800 and these kids aren't gonna be able to write 33 00:01:22,800 --> 00:01:23,891 or anything else like that. 34 00:01:23,891 --> 00:01:27,540 So I really appreciate the fact that you all are willing 35 00:01:27,540 --> 00:01:29,760 to come here and to learn about this. 36 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:32,446 Enjoy your time, I know you're in good hands. 37 00:01:32,446 --> 00:01:33,724 Thank you. 38 00:01:33,724 --> 00:01:34,830 Thank you. - Thank you. 39 00:01:34,830 --> 00:01:37,710 Hello everyone. Thank you for welcoming me. 40 00:01:37,710 --> 00:01:40,020 As they said, I'm a Principal Product Manager 41 00:01:40,020 --> 00:01:42,300 at Khan Academy, so I'm very excited to be with you all. 42 00:01:42,300 --> 00:01:44,070 I'm a former teacher. 43 00:01:44,070 --> 00:01:47,070 A little bit about me, I taught middle school, ELA 44 00:01:47,070 --> 00:01:49,923 and humanities in Roxbury in Boston. 45 00:01:50,760 --> 00:01:54,090 I did some curriculum writing, I did some teacher training. 46 00:01:54,090 --> 00:01:57,030 I got my master's in education from Boston University. 47 00:01:57,030 --> 00:01:59,640 And after that, when I left the classroom, 48 00:01:59,640 --> 00:02:02,730 I co-founded another company called CommonLit.org. 49 00:02:02,730 --> 00:02:04,263 Any CommonLit users in here? 50 00:02:05,460 --> 00:02:07,410 And then after that I joined Khan Academy 51 00:02:07,410 --> 00:02:10,170 where I have been focused on developing literacy resources 52 00:02:10,170 --> 00:02:12,630 for Khan, specifically with Khanmigo. 53 00:02:12,630 --> 00:02:15,510 So when I was a teacher in Boston, 54 00:02:15,510 --> 00:02:17,040 I taught a variety of subjects. 55 00:02:17,040 --> 00:02:19,560 I taught reading, I taught a little bit of US history 56 00:02:19,560 --> 00:02:21,900 when somebody went on maternity leave 57 00:02:21,900 --> 00:02:23,340 and I taught writing. 58 00:02:23,340 --> 00:02:27,210 And writing was by and far the hardest subject 59 00:02:27,210 --> 00:02:28,530 that I had to teach. 60 00:02:28,530 --> 00:02:33,530 And I spent at least 10 hours a day just teaching, 61 00:02:34,050 --> 00:02:37,140 working, grading, planning, and then weekends. 62 00:02:37,140 --> 00:02:39,360 And it was exhausting and it definitely 63 00:02:39,360 --> 00:02:42,120 was one of the reasons why when I left the classroom, 64 00:02:42,120 --> 00:02:44,340 I felt a sense of relief 65 00:02:44,340 --> 00:02:47,280 because teaching writing was impossible. 66 00:02:47,280 --> 00:02:49,590 It just felt really impossible. 67 00:02:49,590 --> 00:02:52,170 I'd go back to teaching reading, reading was lovely, 68 00:02:52,170 --> 00:02:54,240 but even reading involves writing as well. 69 00:02:54,240 --> 00:02:55,770 And whenever you assign an essay, 70 00:02:55,770 --> 00:02:57,330 anybody who's taught writing before, 71 00:02:57,330 --> 00:03:00,810 whether it be in history class, a science class, 72 00:03:00,810 --> 00:03:04,110 an ELA class, you know the time it takes 73 00:03:04,110 --> 00:03:06,570 to provide feedback to students. 74 00:03:06,570 --> 00:03:10,620 So when I came to Khan Academy, 75 00:03:10,620 --> 00:03:13,080 one of the things that we wanted to do was to try 76 00:03:13,080 --> 00:03:15,540 and figure out a solution to that specific problem. 77 00:03:15,540 --> 00:03:17,370 So today, what we're gonna be doing 78 00:03:17,370 --> 00:03:19,980 is we're gonna be talking about why we built Writing Coach 79 00:03:19,980 --> 00:03:21,240 at Khan Academy. 80 00:03:21,240 --> 00:03:24,120 And we're also gonna be talking about 81 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:26,220 how we designed it specifically 82 00:03:26,220 --> 00:03:28,500 for an instructional purpose, 83 00:03:28,500 --> 00:03:29,430 which is a little bit different 84 00:03:29,430 --> 00:03:30,990 from some other tools out there. 85 00:03:30,990 --> 00:03:32,250 And then we're gonna teach you how 86 00:03:32,250 --> 00:03:34,290 to assign a Writing Coach essay 87 00:03:34,290 --> 00:03:36,447 and we're gonna show you what the student experience is like 88 00:03:36,447 --> 00:03:38,700 and the teacher reporting as well. 89 00:03:38,700 --> 00:03:41,280 And you all are gonna get some time to play with it 90 00:03:41,280 --> 00:03:43,560 and experiment with it on your own. 91 00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:46,770 Can anybody tell me how much time the National Commission 92 00:03:46,770 --> 00:03:51,630 on Writing expects students to write regularly? 93 00:03:51,630 --> 00:03:54,840 Like what's the time expectation for student writing 94 00:03:54,840 --> 00:03:56,220 from the National Commission on Writing? 95 00:03:56,220 --> 00:03:59,940 60 minutes a day, which is a lot. 96 00:03:59,940 --> 00:04:02,820 And I think, I mean, I don't know about you, 97 00:04:02,820 --> 00:04:05,190 but I rarely see that when I do go into classrooms, 98 00:04:05,190 --> 00:04:06,570 that's pretty rare. 99 00:04:06,570 --> 00:04:08,760 So I heard many of these things mentioned, 100 00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:11,490 60 minutes of writing practice per day is what's recommended 101 00:04:11,490 --> 00:04:13,470 for students in middle and high school. 102 00:04:13,470 --> 00:04:16,320 They need direct instruction in everything 103 00:04:16,320 --> 00:04:18,060 from audience and purpose and tone 104 00:04:18,060 --> 00:04:21,090 to how to conduct research and incorporate evidence. 105 00:04:21,090 --> 00:04:22,770 They need exposure to mentor texts. 106 00:04:22,770 --> 00:04:26,250 They need somebody to model good writing for them. 107 00:04:26,250 --> 00:04:30,000 They need strong vocabulary and practice vocabulary. 108 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:33,180 They need feedback that is specific and actionable 109 00:04:33,180 --> 00:04:35,250 and delivered in a timely manner. 110 00:04:35,250 --> 00:04:37,140 And reading is a big part of that too. 111 00:04:37,140 --> 00:04:38,700 Reading comprehension skills. 112 00:04:38,700 --> 00:04:40,110 And they also need motivation. 113 00:04:40,110 --> 00:04:41,640 They need to kind of care about it 114 00:04:41,640 --> 00:04:44,940 and want to do the task in order to do it well. 115 00:04:44,940 --> 00:04:46,770 Now, let's do this one out loud. 116 00:04:46,770 --> 00:04:48,120 What are some of the things 117 00:04:48,120 --> 00:04:51,003 that make teaching writing particularly hard? 118 00:04:52,020 --> 00:04:53,373 Yes. - Time. 119 00:04:54,210 --> 00:04:55,350 - Tell me more about that. 120 00:04:55,350 --> 00:04:56,730 - [Attendee] Well, if we're talking 121 00:04:56,730 --> 00:05:00,960 about 60 minutes per day, balancing that against 122 00:05:00,960 --> 00:05:03,870 all the other course skills that you're trying to build 123 00:05:03,870 --> 00:05:07,950 in regular practice with, it's challenging. 124 00:05:07,950 --> 00:05:09,330 It's almost unsustainable. 125 00:05:09,330 --> 00:05:11,790 - Yeah. And I think the 60 minutes per day 126 00:05:11,790 --> 00:05:13,350 doesn't necessarily mean 60 minutes 127 00:05:13,350 --> 00:05:15,180 of sustained writing per day. 128 00:05:15,180 --> 00:05:17,490 It might be like 10 minutes in science class, 129 00:05:17,490 --> 00:05:19,227 20 minutes in history class, you know, 130 00:05:19,227 --> 00:05:22,410 and you spread it out across the various subjects. 131 00:05:22,410 --> 00:05:23,610 I saw another hand, yep. 132 00:05:24,510 --> 00:05:28,557 - [Attendee] There's one of me and there's 20 of them 133 00:05:28,557 --> 00:05:29,850 and you know, per class. 134 00:05:29,850 --> 00:05:34,620 So getting around the room to like the management 135 00:05:34,620 --> 00:05:35,700 of teaching writing, right? 136 00:05:35,700 --> 00:05:39,750 I have kids over here who need a lot more help 137 00:05:39,750 --> 00:05:41,460 and I've got kids who are goofing off 138 00:05:41,460 --> 00:05:43,740 and I've got kids who are just stuck, you know? 139 00:05:43,740 --> 00:05:46,050 So one of the biggest challenges 140 00:05:46,050 --> 00:05:51,050 that makes it difficult is meeting the needs 141 00:05:51,300 --> 00:05:53,280 of all the different kids at the same time. 142 00:05:53,280 --> 00:05:55,680 - And you're talking about the writing process itself, 143 00:05:55,680 --> 00:05:58,320 not even just once they turn in their drafts, 144 00:05:58,320 --> 00:06:00,180 the effort required for one teacher 145 00:06:00,180 --> 00:06:02,250 with however many students total 146 00:06:02,250 --> 00:06:04,980 to give the feedback on all those essays, yes. 147 00:06:04,980 --> 00:06:07,410 - [Attendee] The accessibility of plagiarism. 148 00:06:07,410 --> 00:06:09,000 - Yes. Absolutely. 149 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:10,710 Can you, can you talk more about that? 150 00:06:10,710 --> 00:06:11,970 - I'm sorry. - Can you share more 151 00:06:11,970 --> 00:06:14,124 about your experience with that? 152 00:06:14,124 --> 00:06:19,020 - [Attendee] You know, we as a department, 153 00:06:19,020 --> 00:06:24,020 we've had a diagnostic so that we have a basis 154 00:06:24,690 --> 00:06:29,690 and we can see the drastic difference in language 155 00:06:30,030 --> 00:06:31,980 that it is like a red flag, 156 00:06:31,980 --> 00:06:36,000 but it's the time it takes a way to investigate. 157 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:39,270 Is this fairly being marked as plagiarism or not? 158 00:06:39,270 --> 00:06:42,540 And it disrupts the whole learning process. 159 00:06:42,540 --> 00:06:45,150 And I keep preaching the philosophy. 160 00:06:45,150 --> 00:06:47,700 This is the place to make the mistake. 161 00:06:47,700 --> 00:06:52,470 This is normal part of writing process is the mess 162 00:06:52,470 --> 00:06:54,540 before you get to clarity. 163 00:06:54,540 --> 00:06:57,120 - How many of you have experienced something similar 164 00:06:57,120 --> 00:06:58,803 with students using AI for, 165 00:06:59,760 --> 00:07:01,350 purportedly using AI for that purpose? 166 00:07:01,350 --> 00:07:04,920 Okay, I met a teacher in Indiana who said 167 00:07:04,920 --> 00:07:07,530 that she was using Google draft history, Draftback 168 00:07:07,530 --> 00:07:10,230 to look at like almost every student's draft 169 00:07:10,230 --> 00:07:11,550 to check that they were, 170 00:07:11,550 --> 00:07:14,940 she even had to make her outline so specific 171 00:07:14,940 --> 00:07:18,330 that she could compare exactly what was drafted 172 00:07:18,330 --> 00:07:20,640 to the outline she specified so that she could make sure 173 00:07:20,640 --> 00:07:22,170 that it wasn't ChatGPT. 174 00:07:22,170 --> 00:07:24,150 And she said this added in addition 175 00:07:24,150 --> 00:07:25,890 to the already really hard work of being a teacher, 176 00:07:25,890 --> 00:07:28,833 this added extra time to her day. 177 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:32,400 So I spend a lot of my time talking to 178 00:07:32,400 --> 00:07:35,040 and learning from ELA teachers specifically. 179 00:07:35,040 --> 00:07:37,890 And again, writing is one of the hardest parts, 180 00:07:37,890 --> 00:07:40,200 the hardest jobs when it comes to teaching. 181 00:07:40,200 --> 00:07:42,270 These are some quotes on the left from interviews 182 00:07:42,270 --> 00:07:44,550 that we've done recently with ELA teachers 183 00:07:44,550 --> 00:07:47,340 before we developed writing coaching during that process. 184 00:07:47,340 --> 00:07:49,110 And on the right are some screenshots 185 00:07:49,110 --> 00:07:52,950 of recent comments in various ELA teacher Facebook groups 186 00:07:52,950 --> 00:07:55,920 that I'm still in that I just wanted to show 187 00:07:55,920 --> 00:07:58,860 because it's such a range of challenges 188 00:07:58,860 --> 00:08:00,180 in a writing classroom. 189 00:08:00,180 --> 00:08:03,300 You have the struggle of just teaching writing itself, 190 00:08:03,300 --> 00:08:04,410 that alone is very hard. 191 00:08:04,410 --> 00:08:07,290 How do you teach students to write well without, 192 00:08:07,290 --> 00:08:09,000 you know, it being way too formulaic. 193 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:12,000 You wanna encourage voice, but like it's gotta be academic. 194 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:13,050 And then on top of that, 195 00:08:13,050 --> 00:08:16,170 you have students who are below grade-level typically. 196 00:08:16,170 --> 00:08:19,560 And getting those minutes in every day is really hard. 197 00:08:19,560 --> 00:08:21,180 Getting the feedback to students 198 00:08:21,180 --> 00:08:22,620 in a timely manner is very hard. 199 00:08:22,620 --> 00:08:25,470 Supporting them through the entire writing process is hard. 200 00:08:25,470 --> 00:08:29,580 And then you have AI on top of that, teachers are exhausted. 201 00:08:29,580 --> 00:08:31,503 It is a struggle. 202 00:08:34,080 --> 00:08:38,247 Now that it's 2025, we now have to contend with ChatGPT 203 00:08:38,247 --> 00:08:42,390 and DeepSeek and all these other variety of AI platforms 204 00:08:42,390 --> 00:08:47,040 where students can turn to, to have AI do the work for them. 205 00:08:47,040 --> 00:08:48,540 I was in another classroom once 206 00:08:48,540 --> 00:08:52,260 where the students were using the Snapchat AI feature 207 00:08:52,260 --> 00:08:54,360 to do their writing for them. 208 00:08:54,360 --> 00:08:57,240 So they'll find all kind of creative ways. 209 00:08:57,240 --> 00:08:59,940 Another quick turn and talk. 210 00:08:59,940 --> 00:09:01,860 I wanna touch upon another question 211 00:09:01,860 --> 00:09:03,810 that I hear come up sometimes. 212 00:09:03,810 --> 00:09:07,170 And I led a workshop with a high school, 213 00:09:07,170 --> 00:09:09,180 just with a group of students in a high school 214 00:09:09,180 --> 00:09:10,530 about a year ago. 215 00:09:10,530 --> 00:09:12,930 And one of those students said to me, 216 00:09:12,930 --> 00:09:15,510 I just don't see the point in learning to write anymore 217 00:09:15,510 --> 00:09:16,680 'cause AI can do it for me. 218 00:09:16,680 --> 00:09:18,540 Like, why do I even need to learn this anymore? 219 00:09:18,540 --> 00:09:21,480 So I want you to talk amongst your table. 220 00:09:21,480 --> 00:09:24,270 What would you say to that student in this age 221 00:09:24,270 --> 00:09:25,770 where we have large language models 222 00:09:25,770 --> 00:09:29,370 where AI can produce writing that can pass for human. 223 00:09:29,370 --> 00:09:32,610 Why is it still important to learn writing skills 224 00:09:32,610 --> 00:09:33,660 if you think it's still important? 225 00:09:33,660 --> 00:09:34,860 I hope you do. Go ahead. 226 00:09:36,193 --> 00:09:38,610 I would love to hear some of the reasons shared 227 00:09:38,610 --> 00:09:39,960 at your table. 228 00:09:39,960 --> 00:09:43,143 Do you agree with that student or not? And why? 229 00:09:44,400 --> 00:09:45,233 Over here. 230 00:09:45,233 --> 00:09:46,750 - [Attendee] Well, not to get to 1984, 231 00:09:47,940 --> 00:09:52,320 but writing is taught, language is taught 232 00:09:52,320 --> 00:09:54,270 any way that you reduce language, 233 00:09:54,270 --> 00:09:56,550 whether into a large language model 234 00:09:56,550 --> 00:09:59,160 or just the reduction of even being able to break down 235 00:09:59,160 --> 00:10:00,990 your ideas and set critical thinking, 236 00:10:00,990 --> 00:10:04,170 you're losing your own freedom of thinking and expression. 237 00:10:04,170 --> 00:10:05,340 - Completely agree. 238 00:10:05,340 --> 00:10:08,520 Can everybody hear in either sides? Okay. 239 00:10:08,520 --> 00:10:09,453 Repeat it? Okay. 240 00:10:10,320 --> 00:10:13,260 So what she had said was that writing is thinking 241 00:10:13,260 --> 00:10:16,260 and taught, and so if you remove the process of learning 242 00:10:16,260 --> 00:10:18,570 to write, then that's a detriment to students 243 00:10:18,570 --> 00:10:21,363 who are also using writing as a way of thinking. 244 00:10:22,590 --> 00:10:23,423 What else? 245 00:10:26,310 --> 00:10:27,600 I heard some people talk about, 246 00:10:27,600 --> 00:10:30,030 oh, you need to be able to write something to the AI 247 00:10:30,030 --> 00:10:32,080 to prompt it to do what you wanted to do. 248 00:10:33,060 --> 00:10:35,280 That's true, yes. 249 00:10:35,280 --> 00:10:37,560 - [Attendee] Yeah. I mean, we also talked 250 00:10:37,560 --> 00:10:39,360 about good uses for AI. 251 00:10:39,360 --> 00:10:41,310 So for instance, if I have kids writing 252 00:10:41,310 --> 00:10:43,290 a creative writing assignment, and like, 253 00:10:43,290 --> 00:10:45,330 you know, some kids may not consider themselves 254 00:10:45,330 --> 00:10:48,570 particularly creative, Hey, have AI generate a prompt 255 00:10:48,570 --> 00:10:51,030 for you rather than writing the entire thing. 256 00:10:51,030 --> 00:10:52,020 Now at the end of the day, 257 00:10:52,020 --> 00:10:54,390 we're still there to help support you through 258 00:10:54,390 --> 00:10:55,680 the writing process. 259 00:10:55,680 --> 00:10:57,540 Just because you think you're not good at writing 260 00:10:57,540 --> 00:11:00,690 doesn't mean you can't not be good at it. 261 00:11:00,690 --> 00:11:02,310 You can always be good at something, 262 00:11:02,310 --> 00:11:04,800 just how you put your mindset towards it. 263 00:11:04,800 --> 00:11:07,440 - Agreed. So that was teaching students 264 00:11:07,440 --> 00:11:11,040 about kind of more ethical, responsible ways of using AI, 265 00:11:11,040 --> 00:11:12,270 for example, with creative writing, 266 00:11:12,270 --> 00:11:13,740 asking it to give you a prompt 267 00:11:13,740 --> 00:11:15,900 to help spark your creativity. 268 00:11:15,900 --> 00:11:19,560 So in these past couple of AI-crazed years, 269 00:11:19,560 --> 00:11:22,800 I often return to this quote from Joan Didion 270 00:11:22,800 --> 00:11:25,770 in which he says, "I write entirely to find out 271 00:11:25,770 --> 00:11:28,350 what I am thinking, what I am looking at, 272 00:11:28,350 --> 00:11:30,660 what I see and what it means." 273 00:11:30,660 --> 00:11:33,240 And so to go back to what you said over here, 274 00:11:33,240 --> 00:11:36,720 the process of writing is a process of learning 275 00:11:36,720 --> 00:11:39,210 and thinking critical in and of itself. 276 00:11:39,210 --> 00:11:42,870 There's also, on top of that just a robust body of evidence 277 00:11:42,870 --> 00:11:44,910 that shows that real cognitive 278 00:11:44,910 --> 00:11:46,500 and psychological benefits come from 279 00:11:46,500 --> 00:11:47,940 the process of writing too. 280 00:11:47,940 --> 00:11:50,850 Students use writing as a way to process 281 00:11:50,850 --> 00:11:53,280 what they think about things, what they feel about things 282 00:11:53,280 --> 00:11:56,700 to work through, things to develop, how they even believe, 283 00:11:56,700 --> 00:11:58,440 like what their argument is just sitting. 284 00:11:58,440 --> 00:12:01,170 If you've ever sat down and written something, oftentimes 285 00:12:01,170 --> 00:12:03,600 you come out on the other end thinking something different 286 00:12:03,600 --> 00:12:06,000 just from the process of having to put your thoughts 287 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:08,490 on paper and organize them. 288 00:12:08,490 --> 00:12:12,210 So no, I do not personally see large language models 289 00:12:12,210 --> 00:12:13,890 as a reason not to teach writing anymore. 290 00:12:13,890 --> 00:12:16,080 Did anybody agree with the student, by the way, 291 00:12:16,080 --> 00:12:19,500 out of curiosity, we don't need to teach writing anymore? 292 00:12:19,500 --> 00:12:20,443 Wonderful. Okay, great. 293 00:12:20,443 --> 00:12:22,053 I'm in the right room. 294 00:12:23,160 --> 00:12:26,220 So if anything, I think it's actually more important 295 00:12:26,220 --> 00:12:28,690 maybe now than it ever has been 296 00:12:29,550 --> 00:12:31,800 because it's like thinking as a human 297 00:12:31,800 --> 00:12:35,850 it's a such a deeply human thing and writing 298 00:12:35,850 --> 00:12:37,773 is such a big part of that. 299 00:12:38,820 --> 00:12:40,830 But it is critical, I think, to your point, 300 00:12:40,830 --> 00:12:44,430 to educate students about AI and large language models, 301 00:12:44,430 --> 00:12:46,080 how they work, how to use them ethically 302 00:12:46,080 --> 00:12:47,940 and responsibly in a classroom. 303 00:12:47,940 --> 00:12:50,580 And we could do an entire symposium on this topic alone, 304 00:12:50,580 --> 00:12:52,890 but I did include some thoughts here 305 00:12:52,890 --> 00:12:55,740 to consider when you're incorporating AI in the classroom. 306 00:12:55,740 --> 00:12:57,870 So one of the first things I think about 307 00:12:57,870 --> 00:13:00,090 and as you're thinking about these things, 308 00:13:00,090 --> 00:13:01,620 consider other AI tools too. 309 00:13:01,620 --> 00:13:04,350 How many of those tools are these things true for? 310 00:13:04,350 --> 00:13:07,320 So will the AI actually help students learn 311 00:13:07,320 --> 00:13:09,330 Or is it more of a shortcut? 312 00:13:09,330 --> 00:13:12,180 Will students become reliant on the AI 313 00:13:12,180 --> 00:13:14,130 if it's being used as scaffolding, 314 00:13:14,130 --> 00:13:15,960 is there a way that we can gradually remove 315 00:13:15,960 --> 00:13:17,460 that scaffolding? 316 00:13:17,460 --> 00:13:18,990 Do students actually understand 317 00:13:18,990 --> 00:13:20,550 how large language models work 318 00:13:20,550 --> 00:13:24,930 and how that content is generated and when not to trust 319 00:13:24,930 --> 00:13:27,270 the content that is being generated? 320 00:13:27,270 --> 00:13:30,150 And are they actually using AI in ways 321 00:13:30,150 --> 00:13:32,610 that encourage high order thinking skills 322 00:13:32,610 --> 00:13:36,870 versus kind of put that on the AI itself? 323 00:13:36,870 --> 00:13:38,040 So these are the questions 324 00:13:38,040 --> 00:13:41,940 that I think are important when we are trying to figure out 325 00:13:41,940 --> 00:13:44,190 should we be using this AI in the classroom. 326 00:13:44,190 --> 00:13:47,760 So with all of that, let's talk about Writing Coach. 327 00:13:47,760 --> 00:13:49,620 How writing Coach came to be, 328 00:13:49,620 --> 00:13:51,510 why it is different from other tools. 329 00:13:51,510 --> 00:13:54,360 We went over a little bit of this before, 330 00:13:54,360 --> 00:13:56,280 but some people think Khan Academy 331 00:13:56,280 --> 00:14:01,020 and they think test prep or math and science content, right? 332 00:14:01,020 --> 00:14:03,990 It's rarely kind of seen as the ELA resource 333 00:14:03,990 --> 00:14:06,600 or the tool for teaching writing. 334 00:14:06,600 --> 00:14:08,760 But our mission at Khan Academy has always been 335 00:14:08,760 --> 00:14:12,510 about providing a world class education to anyone anywhere. 336 00:14:12,510 --> 00:14:15,000 So that has always included the humanities. 337 00:14:15,000 --> 00:14:17,280 I think we've always just been trying to figure out 338 00:14:17,280 --> 00:14:18,780 how do we break into the humanities? 339 00:14:18,780 --> 00:14:21,870 How do we support teachers with that particularly? 340 00:14:21,870 --> 00:14:24,450 So when we started exploring AI solutions 341 00:14:24,450 --> 00:14:28,050 back in 2022, one of the things that immediately came 342 00:14:28,050 --> 00:14:32,010 to mind was, this is really good with writing-related tasks, 343 00:14:32,010 --> 00:14:34,530 for obvious reasons, it's a large language model. 344 00:14:34,530 --> 00:14:37,440 And so we were exploring what are some of the problems 345 00:14:37,440 --> 00:14:40,200 that we could solve with this new technology? 346 00:14:40,200 --> 00:14:42,540 And as a former writing teacher, 347 00:14:42,540 --> 00:14:47,070 I knew that the problems with teaching writing 348 00:14:47,070 --> 00:14:49,920 were some of the hardest to solve problems out there. 349 00:14:49,920 --> 00:14:53,190 And this is because have to meet grade level standards. 350 00:14:53,190 --> 00:14:55,740 They're supposed to be practicing 60 minutes a day, 351 00:14:55,740 --> 00:14:58,860 apparently, many students need support 352 00:14:58,860 --> 00:15:00,570 through the entire writing process, 353 00:15:00,570 --> 00:15:03,270 not just getting that feedback piece and then delivering 354 00:15:03,270 --> 00:15:05,610 that feedback in a way that's timely 355 00:15:05,610 --> 00:15:09,510 and specific and actionable is a big job. 356 00:15:09,510 --> 00:15:13,620 So in reality, what we often see in writing classrooms 357 00:15:13,620 --> 00:15:16,770 is that about a quarter of students actually end up 358 00:15:16,770 --> 00:15:18,540 meeting grade level writing standards 359 00:15:18,540 --> 00:15:21,930 in middle and high school, a tiny percentage 360 00:15:21,930 --> 00:15:24,990 of students are actually getting 60 minutes 361 00:15:24,990 --> 00:15:27,030 of writing practice per day. 362 00:15:27,030 --> 00:15:29,820 And because ELA secondary teachers, 363 00:15:29,820 --> 00:15:32,220 middle and high school teachers tend to have 364 00:15:32,220 --> 00:15:34,440 a hundred or more students often 365 00:15:34,440 --> 00:15:38,040 that means that for a teacher to deliver timely, specific, 366 00:15:38,040 --> 00:15:40,200 actionable feedback to all of their students, 367 00:15:40,200 --> 00:15:42,780 if I have a hundred students and I limit myself 368 00:15:42,780 --> 00:15:45,630 to 10 minutes of feedback per essay, 369 00:15:45,630 --> 00:15:47,760 which I would literally do, I would set my phone timer 370 00:15:47,760 --> 00:15:50,370 and be like, I'm stopping after 10 minutes for each one. 371 00:15:50,370 --> 00:15:55,200 That's 17 hours for one draft of one essay assignment 372 00:15:55,200 --> 00:15:57,150 to get feedback to all of my students. 373 00:15:57,150 --> 00:15:59,430 And we're supposed to be assigning 16 minutes 374 00:15:59,430 --> 00:16:00,974 of writing per day. 375 00:16:00,974 --> 00:16:04,623 It seemed at the time to be kind of an intractable problem, 376 00:16:05,520 --> 00:16:10,083 but we decided to try and tackle it with AI. 377 00:16:10,920 --> 00:16:15,600 And last fall, in September, we launched the what ultimately 378 00:16:15,600 --> 00:16:17,970 is now the Khanmigo Writing Coach experience. 379 00:16:17,970 --> 00:16:20,850 It started off as a prototype that we built. 380 00:16:20,850 --> 00:16:22,560 We did a feedback activity, 381 00:16:22,560 --> 00:16:24,600 we did a college admissions essay activity 382 00:16:24,600 --> 00:16:27,270 that's still available on Khanmigo too. 383 00:16:27,270 --> 00:16:28,740 And then this past fall is when we launched 384 00:16:28,740 --> 00:16:30,420 the full Writing Coach experience. 385 00:16:30,420 --> 00:16:32,400 So I wanted to go over, 386 00:16:32,400 --> 00:16:35,250 because again, there's a many, many AI tools out there, 387 00:16:35,250 --> 00:16:36,540 as the commissioner mentioned, 388 00:16:36,540 --> 00:16:38,010 he's getting a lot of phone calls 389 00:16:38,010 --> 00:16:39,450 about all these different tools 390 00:16:39,450 --> 00:16:41,760 and I think you're definitely familiar with ChatGPT, 391 00:16:41,760 --> 00:16:45,360 it has its usage, but it's also always more than happy 392 00:16:45,360 --> 00:16:47,523 to write a student's entire essay for them. 393 00:16:48,480 --> 00:16:52,320 And so there's positive use cases for all of these tools, 394 00:16:52,320 --> 00:16:57,320 but the primary purpose behind them it's either to save time 395 00:16:58,170 --> 00:16:59,580 for the student or the teacher, 396 00:16:59,580 --> 00:17:02,700 or it's to produce better writing. 397 00:17:02,700 --> 00:17:04,770 And with Writing Coach, the purpose is 398 00:17:04,770 --> 00:17:07,170 to produce better writers. 399 00:17:07,170 --> 00:17:09,720 And so here's how Writing Coach is different. 400 00:17:09,720 --> 00:17:11,760 Writing Coach is an instructional tool 401 00:17:11,760 --> 00:17:14,550 with the primary purpose of student learning 402 00:17:14,550 --> 00:17:16,500 and teacher transparency. 403 00:17:16,500 --> 00:17:18,060 It's to designed to guide students 404 00:17:18,060 --> 00:17:19,890 through the entire process of writing 405 00:17:19,890 --> 00:17:22,290 from the very beginning of getting that essay prompt 406 00:17:22,290 --> 00:17:24,720 through outlining, drafting, getting feedback, 407 00:17:24,720 --> 00:17:27,030 revising, submitting to the teacher. 408 00:17:27,030 --> 00:17:30,900 It's also a way for teachers to get more writing practice 409 00:17:30,900 --> 00:17:34,530 in the classroom and real-time support for students. 410 00:17:34,530 --> 00:17:37,050 And then it also includes data dashboards 411 00:17:37,050 --> 00:17:40,050 for teachers with at-a-glance, high-level insights 412 00:17:40,050 --> 00:17:42,750 at the class level and then in-depth insights 413 00:17:42,750 --> 00:17:44,880 into the actual student writing processes. 414 00:17:44,880 --> 00:17:47,790 So it is not a digital essay writing platform, 415 00:17:47,790 --> 00:17:51,150 it's not Google Docs, it's not an evaluative tool 416 00:17:51,150 --> 00:17:52,140 or a grading tool, 417 00:17:52,140 --> 00:17:54,753 we're not gonna just spit out scores for every kid. 418 00:17:55,590 --> 00:17:57,630 It isn't a student student productivity tool 419 00:17:57,630 --> 00:18:00,180 like Grammarly where they can just accept the suggestions. 420 00:18:00,180 --> 00:18:03,310 It doesn't just generate feedback, although it does do that 421 00:18:04,230 --> 00:18:07,410 and it doesn't focus on grammar and mechanics 422 00:18:07,410 --> 00:18:11,730 and kind of let students just accept those suggestions. 423 00:18:11,730 --> 00:18:13,080 So we launched Writing Coach 424 00:18:13,080 --> 00:18:15,300 and some of the feedback that we've gotten so far 425 00:18:15,300 --> 00:18:18,990 has been related to the quality of the feedback. 426 00:18:18,990 --> 00:18:20,160 I think this was one of the things 427 00:18:20,160 --> 00:18:22,980 that initially really set it apart 428 00:18:22,980 --> 00:18:24,330 from some of those other tools. 429 00:18:24,330 --> 00:18:26,370 When we developed Writing Coach, 430 00:18:26,370 --> 00:18:28,590 we were a little bit obsessive 431 00:18:28,590 --> 00:18:30,120 about the quality of the feedback. 432 00:18:30,120 --> 00:18:31,680 I think because it was built by a team 433 00:18:31,680 --> 00:18:33,690 of former writing teachers and tutors, 434 00:18:33,690 --> 00:18:37,380 were not gonna settle for anything that wasn't better than, 435 00:18:37,380 --> 00:18:40,830 you know, what a student teacher would be able to do, right? 436 00:18:40,830 --> 00:18:45,210 And so we ended up creating multiple AI prompts 437 00:18:45,210 --> 00:18:47,790 to focus on various parts of the writing process 438 00:18:47,790 --> 00:18:50,310 as well as various feedback prompts 439 00:18:50,310 --> 00:18:52,860 for different feedback categories. 440 00:18:52,860 --> 00:18:55,650 And we meticulously tested and refined these 441 00:18:55,650 --> 00:18:57,480 over the course of over a year. 442 00:18:57,480 --> 00:19:00,090 And we're still doing this to make sure 443 00:19:00,090 --> 00:19:01,950 that the feedback is targeted, 444 00:19:01,950 --> 00:19:05,310 it's aligned to what grade level expectations are 445 00:19:05,310 --> 00:19:07,770 and it's actually actionable and not just, 446 00:19:07,770 --> 00:19:09,900 oh, you did good on this and maybe you should work 447 00:19:09,900 --> 00:19:11,430 on your organization. 448 00:19:11,430 --> 00:19:13,560 It helps the student through the process 449 00:19:13,560 --> 00:19:15,330 of understanding what's wrong. 450 00:19:15,330 --> 00:19:16,800 So that was one piece of feedback we got 451 00:19:16,800 --> 00:19:21,060 is that the feedback from Khanmigo is really excellent. 452 00:19:21,060 --> 00:19:24,600 And the other piece is that it has helped 453 00:19:24,600 --> 00:19:26,370 actually improve student writing. 454 00:19:26,370 --> 00:19:28,020 So students who are using Writing Coach, 455 00:19:28,020 --> 00:19:30,240 we had one teacher in Florida, I think, 456 00:19:30,240 --> 00:19:34,020 who used it very often last fall and every single one, 457 00:19:34,020 --> 00:19:36,780 or she was part of a pilot that we did actually last spring 458 00:19:36,780 --> 00:19:38,700 and every single one of her students in her class 459 00:19:38,700 --> 00:19:40,023 passed the state test. 460 00:19:41,010 --> 00:19:44,160 And we think that this is because it's an instructional tool 461 00:19:44,160 --> 00:19:46,280 and it puts the onus on the student to have to do all 462 00:19:46,280 --> 00:19:49,290 of the thinking themselves, all of the work themselves, 463 00:19:49,290 --> 00:19:51,990 we think that that is where it holds its most promise. 464 00:19:52,920 --> 00:19:57,050 So the first thing to do when working with Writing Coach 465 00:19:57,050 --> 00:19:59,490 is to create the assignment 466 00:19:59,490 --> 00:20:01,470 and to create the Writing Coach assignment, 467 00:20:01,470 --> 00:20:03,630 you would start by logging into Khan Academy 468 00:20:03,630 --> 00:20:05,370 and clicking on the Khanmigo dropdown. 469 00:20:05,370 --> 00:20:07,770 Can you raise your hand if you are familiar 470 00:20:07,770 --> 00:20:12,770 with the Khan Academy website and that Khanmigo dropdown? 471 00:20:13,020 --> 00:20:15,150 Okay, if not, once you log in, 472 00:20:15,150 --> 00:20:17,640 you should all have this dropdown. 473 00:20:17,640 --> 00:20:18,960 So a Writing Coach assignment, 474 00:20:18,960 --> 00:20:20,250 when you click that assign button, 475 00:20:20,250 --> 00:20:23,550 let me go back to just show you where that assign button is. 476 00:20:23,550 --> 00:20:25,590 Once you click on Writing Coach, 477 00:20:25,590 --> 00:20:27,390 you should see an assign button 478 00:20:27,390 --> 00:20:29,760 that's blue in the top right corner. 479 00:20:29,760 --> 00:20:33,633 And every Writing Coach assignment starts with a prompt. 480 00:20:35,160 --> 00:20:37,500 You provide the prompt, the teacher provides the prompt 481 00:20:37,500 --> 00:20:40,890 to the student and you can use 482 00:20:40,890 --> 00:20:43,560 any academic essay prompt that you want. 483 00:20:43,560 --> 00:20:47,370 A few things to note about how Writing Coach was designed, 484 00:20:47,370 --> 00:20:51,150 it was designed for secondary humanities classrooms. 485 00:20:51,150 --> 00:20:55,293 So we typically say grade seven and up, 7 through 12. 486 00:20:56,430 --> 00:21:00,810 However, if you can put fifth, sixth graders on it, 487 00:21:00,810 --> 00:21:03,000 it might just be a little bit advanced for them. 488 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:06,060 It struggles a little bit to kind of bring that level down. 489 00:21:06,060 --> 00:21:08,610 And it's trained on, we've tweaked it 490 00:21:08,610 --> 00:21:11,820 and made it work for middle and high school essays 491 00:21:11,820 --> 00:21:14,970 starting around grade seven. 492 00:21:14,970 --> 00:21:17,430 So those are the grade levels we officially support. 493 00:21:17,430 --> 00:21:20,490 But again, you can use it for fifth and sixth grade. 494 00:21:20,490 --> 00:21:24,300 The three essay types that we officially support right now, 495 00:21:24,300 --> 00:21:27,630 we're gonna be adding more, are persuasive, argumentative, 496 00:21:27,630 --> 00:21:32,520 expository, explanatory and literary analysis. 497 00:21:32,520 --> 00:21:34,260 And so what I recommend, 498 00:21:34,260 --> 00:21:36,450 if you are planning on using Writing Coach 499 00:21:36,450 --> 00:21:40,290 for general writing practice, those are very good ways 500 00:21:40,290 --> 00:21:44,220 to kind of select the kind of writing 501 00:21:44,220 --> 00:21:46,080 that you want students to do. 502 00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:49,410 But if you're using it for something like SAT essay prep 503 00:21:49,410 --> 00:21:52,140 or the middle school essay prep, 504 00:21:52,140 --> 00:21:54,870 choose the closest one to what the prompt is. 505 00:21:54,870 --> 00:21:57,510 So in some cases that's gonna be literary analysis. 506 00:21:57,510 --> 00:22:00,510 Usually it's argumentative, persuasive. 507 00:22:00,510 --> 00:22:01,890 So just give your best guess 508 00:22:01,890 --> 00:22:04,710 as to the essay type that it is. 509 00:22:04,710 --> 00:22:08,520 And what is really important about the essay instructions 510 00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:11,430 is that you are as specific as possible. 511 00:22:11,430 --> 00:22:13,470 In every stage of Writing Coach, 512 00:22:13,470 --> 00:22:15,930 Khanmigo is going to look at the instructions 513 00:22:15,930 --> 00:22:19,200 that you provided and it's going to be a stickler 514 00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:21,300 for the student about those instructions. 515 00:22:21,300 --> 00:22:25,110 So if you say write an essay about whatever, 516 00:22:25,110 --> 00:22:28,350 it's not gonna push the student to include textual evidence 517 00:22:28,350 --> 00:22:30,390 or a certain amount of textual evidence 518 00:22:30,390 --> 00:22:32,730 or even maybe the student will give examples, 519 00:22:32,730 --> 00:22:34,680 but not actually textual evidence. 520 00:22:34,680 --> 00:22:37,920 So if you want students to include at least three pieces 521 00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:40,020 of textual evidence, say that. 522 00:22:40,020 --> 00:22:42,690 So be really explicit about what you want them to do. 523 00:22:42,690 --> 00:22:45,060 If you want them to include a concession rebuttal 524 00:22:45,060 --> 00:22:47,580 or counterargument paragraph, say so. 525 00:22:47,580 --> 00:22:52,000 If you want students to cite their evidence 526 00:22:52,983 --> 00:22:56,280 in a specific format, say which one. 527 00:22:56,280 --> 00:22:59,550 You can even tell it exactly what rubric 528 00:22:59,550 --> 00:23:00,383 that you're going to use. 529 00:23:00,383 --> 00:23:03,060 We don't have a feature yet where you can upload the rubric, 530 00:23:03,060 --> 00:23:04,860 but all you have to do is say, 531 00:23:04,860 --> 00:23:06,300 what I would actually recommend 532 00:23:06,300 --> 00:23:10,470 is this is from the New Hampshire SAS rubric 533 00:23:10,470 --> 00:23:13,980 from middle school, you can literally take 534 00:23:13,980 --> 00:23:17,940 the entire section from all of the score fours 535 00:23:17,940 --> 00:23:19,650 and put that into the essay instructions. 536 00:23:19,650 --> 00:23:22,650 Say this essay should meet these expectations 537 00:23:22,650 --> 00:23:25,530 and Khanmigo will check the student's essay 538 00:23:25,530 --> 00:23:28,350 to make sure it's meeting those expectations. 539 00:23:28,350 --> 00:23:33,350 For SAT, similarly, you can take the same text here 540 00:23:34,890 --> 00:23:37,530 and plot that into the essay instructions 541 00:23:37,530 --> 00:23:40,260 and it's going to pay attention to what you want. 542 00:23:40,260 --> 00:23:43,740 You can also just say this is an SAT practice test 543 00:23:43,740 --> 00:23:45,930 for the essay. 544 00:23:45,930 --> 00:23:48,210 And because it's in large language model, it's gonna know 545 00:23:48,210 --> 00:23:49,920 what that means and it's gonna know generally 546 00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:51,360 what the expectations are for that. 547 00:23:51,360 --> 00:23:52,320 So if you're in a hurry, 548 00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:55,620 you can just say this is an SAT essay practice test 549 00:23:55,620 --> 00:23:58,650 and it will kind of have those expectations in mind. 550 00:23:58,650 --> 00:24:03,650 Another word about these SAS and SAT tests, 551 00:24:05,790 --> 00:24:07,950 some of them, or I think most of them actually require 552 00:24:07,950 --> 00:24:10,230 that students read a reading passage. 553 00:24:10,230 --> 00:24:13,470 For SAT, because they're typically pretty short, 554 00:24:13,470 --> 00:24:15,840 you can actually paste the reading passage 555 00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:18,930 like the entire prompt directly into essay instructions 556 00:24:18,930 --> 00:24:20,043 into that field there. 557 00:24:22,020 --> 00:24:23,370 If it's a well-known text, 558 00:24:23,370 --> 00:24:24,990 you don't even really have to do that. 559 00:24:24,990 --> 00:24:26,910 It just sort of will be aware of the text 560 00:24:26,910 --> 00:24:28,680 that is being referenced. 561 00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:30,210 If it is longer, 562 00:24:30,210 --> 00:24:32,700 you also don't really need to include it at all. 563 00:24:32,700 --> 00:24:34,477 I looked at one in this case it says, 564 00:24:34,477 --> 00:24:36,180 "Explain how Paul Bogart builds an argument 565 00:24:36,180 --> 00:24:37,470 to persuade his audience." 566 00:24:37,470 --> 00:24:40,563 You don't need to put in the actual reading passage here. 567 00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:45,360 You can just let students do the reading part outside 568 00:24:45,360 --> 00:24:47,850 of Writing Coach and then Writing Coach will push them 569 00:24:47,850 --> 00:24:50,700 to include evidence to make sure the evidence is aligned. 570 00:24:50,700 --> 00:24:53,190 But if it's a not super well-known passage 571 00:24:53,190 --> 00:24:54,210 or it's too long to include 572 00:24:54,210 --> 00:24:55,920 in the essay instructions itself, 573 00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:58,110 Khanmigo won't necessarily be able to say, 574 00:24:58,110 --> 00:25:00,360 oh, that evidence is not actually from that text 575 00:25:00,360 --> 00:25:03,000 or it might not be able to, you know, 576 00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:05,280 to verify that it is a real piece of evidence 577 00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:06,480 if it's not from a well known text 578 00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:07,500 or if you don't provide the text. 579 00:25:07,500 --> 00:25:09,030 Does that make sense? Yes. 580 00:25:09,030 --> 00:25:10,290 - [Attendee] Sorry, you said is there a limit 581 00:25:10,290 --> 00:25:12,900 to how much text you can put into the prompt? 582 00:25:12,900 --> 00:25:14,880 - I believe there is not. 583 00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:16,170 I just checked to see like- - If they're doing 584 00:25:16,170 --> 00:25:20,070 a rhetorical analysis of a of a speech, for example, 585 00:25:20,070 --> 00:25:21,900 and let's say the speech is like three pages, 586 00:25:21,900 --> 00:25:24,240 would it be able to fit that whole speech in? 587 00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:26,370 - You could. I'm pretty sure you could. 588 00:25:26,370 --> 00:25:29,640 The one caveat is sometimes large language models 589 00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:31,620 have this thing called a context window. 590 00:25:31,620 --> 00:25:33,180 And if it's too long, 591 00:25:33,180 --> 00:25:34,800 if you put way too much information in there, 592 00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:37,140 it might get confused and it might not work as well. 593 00:25:37,140 --> 00:25:39,000 So if it's a speech that's well-known, 594 00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:40,800 you can just reference the name of the speech 595 00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:42,390 and that's perfectly fine. 596 00:25:42,390 --> 00:25:45,360 If it's like a random article from some, 597 00:25:45,360 --> 00:25:47,040 I dunno, random publication 598 00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:50,280 that is maybe not super Googleable and it's short, 599 00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:51,210 you might wanna include it. 600 00:25:51,210 --> 00:25:52,827 But otherwise, I probably wouldn't include it. 601 00:25:52,827 --> 00:25:54,177 - Okay, thank you. - Yeah. 602 00:25:55,590 --> 00:25:57,390 Another point about the reading passages. 603 00:25:57,390 --> 00:25:59,640 So if you are gonna be using this for test prep, 604 00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:03,360 I would have students start by reading the passages on paper 605 00:26:03,360 --> 00:26:06,270 or wherever you want them to read them in class. 606 00:26:06,270 --> 00:26:08,460 We do not have anything in Writing Coach 607 00:26:08,460 --> 00:26:10,380 that will do the reading with students. 608 00:26:10,380 --> 00:26:13,440 We're thinking about it, we're exploring a reading coach, 609 00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:16,110 but for now, have them do the reading passages 610 00:26:16,110 --> 00:26:18,303 before they start the essay, okay? 611 00:26:19,500 --> 00:26:24,330 Once they get in to their accounts, 612 00:26:24,330 --> 00:26:26,400 students will again log into their accounts 613 00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:28,490 whether they get there through Clever or ClassLink, 614 00:26:28,490 --> 00:26:31,680 or whatever it is that you guys use, log into their account, 615 00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:33,240 they will see their assignment right 616 00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:34,920 on their assignments page, 617 00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:37,620 but they can also do the same thing that you did. 618 00:26:37,620 --> 00:26:39,630 Go to their Khanmigo learner activities, 619 00:26:39,630 --> 00:26:42,300 go to Writing Coach and they'll see it there too. 620 00:26:42,300 --> 00:26:44,070 But it's listed under their assignment 621 00:26:44,070 --> 00:26:45,470 so they should see it there. 622 00:26:46,740 --> 00:26:48,780 What Writing Coach does for students, 623 00:26:48,780 --> 00:26:51,540 and I'll show you what this looks like in a minute, 624 00:26:51,540 --> 00:26:53,760 is it starts by breaking down the prompt 625 00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:55,800 with understanding the assignment. 626 00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:57,930 It helps them formulate the outline, 627 00:26:57,930 --> 00:27:00,180 it helps them get started on a draft 628 00:27:00,180 --> 00:27:02,543 and then it helps 'em with feedback and revising. 629 00:27:05,790 --> 00:27:07,440 So for understanding the assignment, 630 00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:11,640 if you look up here, I know there's multiple screens. 631 00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:15,150 We have understandings outlining, drafting, and revising. 632 00:27:15,150 --> 00:27:17,940 So if your teachers are doing writing class, 633 00:27:17,940 --> 00:27:19,620 writing coaching class, you can walk around, 634 00:27:19,620 --> 00:27:21,690 you can see what stage they're in. 635 00:27:21,690 --> 00:27:24,030 But there's also a dashboard for teachers 636 00:27:24,030 --> 00:27:25,350 that I'll show you shortly. 637 00:27:25,350 --> 00:27:26,820 That also tells you exactly 638 00:27:26,820 --> 00:27:28,487 what stage students each student is working on. 639 00:27:28,487 --> 00:27:30,300 So you can get a sense of how far 640 00:27:30,300 --> 00:27:32,656 in the assignment students are. 641 00:27:32,656 --> 00:27:35,160 In this first stage, understanding Khanmigo 642 00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:37,170 is looking at the prompt that you gave, 643 00:27:37,170 --> 00:27:39,240 it's looking at the information you provided 644 00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:40,530 and it's engaging the student 645 00:27:40,530 --> 00:27:43,620 in a conversation about the assignment. 646 00:27:43,620 --> 00:27:45,630 It gives a couple of initial prompts. 647 00:27:45,630 --> 00:27:47,730 Do you want me to explain the essay type? 648 00:27:47,730 --> 00:27:49,375 Do you wanna know what the requirements are? 649 00:27:49,375 --> 00:27:50,640 Do you want me to summarize them? Do you have questions? 650 00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:52,470 So students can use this as an opportunity 651 00:27:52,470 --> 00:27:54,840 to ask about, you know, defining terms. 652 00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:57,000 What is the rebuttal again, like can you remind me 653 00:27:57,000 --> 00:28:00,570 how I cite in text and citations for MLA? 654 00:28:00,570 --> 00:28:04,380 Or can you kind of tell me what I should do now, right? 655 00:28:04,380 --> 00:28:06,270 And sometimes Khanmigo ask the student, 656 00:28:06,270 --> 00:28:07,440 have you done the readings yet? 657 00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:08,940 If not, go to the readings. 658 00:28:08,940 --> 00:28:10,500 Here's what you should be looking for. 659 00:28:10,500 --> 00:28:11,850 And it's an opportunity for the student 660 00:28:11,850 --> 00:28:14,940 to kind of ask any questions they need, feel safe, 661 00:28:14,940 --> 00:28:18,210 feel like they can, you know, share their confusion 662 00:28:18,210 --> 00:28:21,780 with the AI and get anything answered 663 00:28:21,780 --> 00:28:24,900 before they begin the actual writing process. 664 00:28:24,900 --> 00:28:27,480 So the second step is outlining. 665 00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:32,480 We provide students with a default flexible outline. 666 00:28:32,820 --> 00:28:35,700 Students can modify this, they can add body paragraphs, 667 00:28:35,700 --> 00:28:38,970 remove body paragraphs, add evidence, add explanations, 668 00:28:38,970 --> 00:28:41,370 add reasoning, add sources, whatever they need, 669 00:28:41,370 --> 00:28:44,433 but we do have a default three paragraph essay outline. 670 00:28:45,780 --> 00:28:49,770 It also comes with rough kind of exemplar sentences 671 00:28:49,770 --> 00:28:51,330 for each section. 672 00:28:51,330 --> 00:28:52,920 So students can kind of see an example 673 00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:54,960 of what an in-text citation looks like 674 00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:59,040 or a thesis statement in that's related to the type of essay 675 00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:00,003 that you specified. 676 00:29:01,590 --> 00:29:04,860 During the stage, the student again, can chat with Khanmigo, 677 00:29:04,860 --> 00:29:06,660 the student can start by just saying, I'm stuck, 678 00:29:06,660 --> 00:29:09,390 or you know, they can just dive right in. 679 00:29:09,390 --> 00:29:11,490 They don't have to engage with Khanmigo at all 680 00:29:11,490 --> 00:29:12,690 if they don't want to. 681 00:29:12,690 --> 00:29:14,640 And one of the nice things about Writing Coach 682 00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:19,350 is even if they don't chat with Khanmigo at all, 683 00:29:19,350 --> 00:29:21,180 Khanmigo will still check their work. 684 00:29:21,180 --> 00:29:24,750 So once they move from outlining to drafting, 685 00:29:24,750 --> 00:29:27,000 without even being asked, Khanmigo's gonna be like, 686 00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:30,930 I'm just gonna make sure that your outline is matching 687 00:29:30,930 --> 00:29:31,920 what the instructions are. 688 00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:33,600 Because again, Khanmigo can see 689 00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:37,080 the teacher's assignment instructions at every stage. 690 00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:39,843 So once the student tries to move on to drafting, 691 00:29:40,710 --> 00:29:43,410 Khanmigo performs an initial check 692 00:29:43,410 --> 00:29:45,510 to make sure that the thesis 693 00:29:45,510 --> 00:29:47,970 is actually answered the question, 694 00:29:47,970 --> 00:29:50,880 answering the question that is being asked 695 00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:52,710 in the assignment instructions. 696 00:29:52,710 --> 00:29:55,290 It's checking to make sure the main points 697 00:29:55,290 --> 00:29:57,030 have something to do with the thesis. 698 00:29:57,030 --> 00:29:58,350 This is not the part where it's gonna be 699 00:29:58,350 --> 00:29:59,460 like giving a ton of feedback, 700 00:29:59,460 --> 00:30:01,620 it's just doing basic alignment checks here 701 00:30:01,620 --> 00:30:03,000 and completion checks. 702 00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:04,530 It's checking to make sure the evidence 703 00:30:04,530 --> 00:30:07,020 is related to the points they're making, 704 00:30:07,020 --> 00:30:09,480 that the evidence meets the assignment expectation. 705 00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:12,270 So again, if you said I need three pieces 706 00:30:12,270 --> 00:30:15,570 of textual evidence and the student provided one piece 707 00:30:15,570 --> 00:30:18,600 of textual evidence, a random example from their life 708 00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:21,180 and nothing else, then it's going to say, hold up, 709 00:30:21,180 --> 00:30:22,470 that's not what your teacher asked for. 710 00:30:22,470 --> 00:30:24,180 And it's gonna give them a chance to go back 711 00:30:24,180 --> 00:30:25,833 and fix it before they move on. 712 00:30:26,670 --> 00:30:29,310 It's also gonna just check to make sure they didn't put, 713 00:30:29,310 --> 00:30:31,320 you know, one paragraph before another 714 00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:32,370 that didn't make any sense. 715 00:30:32,370 --> 00:30:35,910 It's looking for, you know, logical reasoning here. 716 00:30:35,910 --> 00:30:38,160 And if you say they need a counter argument 717 00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:41,460 and a rebuttal and any of those kind of core elements 718 00:30:41,460 --> 00:30:42,630 of an argumentative essay 719 00:30:42,630 --> 00:30:44,430 and the student didn't include that, 720 00:30:44,430 --> 00:30:46,020 it's gonna point that out too. 721 00:30:46,020 --> 00:30:48,930 So this is one of those kind of checks that we do 722 00:30:48,930 --> 00:30:51,360 to make sure that the student is on the right track. 723 00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:55,650 When we get to drafting, we have... (chuckles) 724 00:30:55,650 --> 00:30:58,410 Yeah, this is an example of how Khanmigo 725 00:30:58,410 --> 00:31:01,143 is maybe less helpful than ChatGPT in some ways. 726 00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:05,400 So here, the student has access to the outline 727 00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:07,650 that they just made with Khanmigo. 728 00:31:07,650 --> 00:31:10,140 So if you see the tabs here at the bottom, 729 00:31:10,140 --> 00:31:13,350 their assignment instructions are always at the bottom. 730 00:31:13,350 --> 00:31:15,180 They can always chat with Khanmigo 731 00:31:15,180 --> 00:31:18,210 and when they're drafting they can get to their outline. 732 00:31:18,210 --> 00:31:20,250 So when they're using their outline, 733 00:31:20,250 --> 00:31:23,220 we let them copy and paste right from their outline 734 00:31:23,220 --> 00:31:25,800 into their draft, they can keep drafting. 735 00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:28,950 At any point, they can talk to Khanmigo about, 736 00:31:28,950 --> 00:31:32,400 am I doing this right or what comes next? 737 00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:34,290 Or I'm stuck or I don't know what to put. 738 00:31:34,290 --> 00:31:36,480 But obviously, if the student is asking Khanmigo 739 00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:40,260 to do any of the writing for them to suggest evidence, 740 00:31:40,260 --> 00:31:42,690 to write a hook, to write a conclusion, 741 00:31:42,690 --> 00:31:44,403 Khanmigo will not do that. 742 00:31:45,420 --> 00:31:47,940 And you'll see this later, 743 00:31:47,940 --> 00:31:51,210 but you also as the teacher, will have full visibility 744 00:31:51,210 --> 00:31:53,190 and to all of these interactions. 745 00:31:53,190 --> 00:31:55,050 And students, we tell students that too, 746 00:31:55,050 --> 00:31:56,670 so it's not a surprise for them. 747 00:31:56,670 --> 00:31:58,770 They know that this chat is entirely viewable 748 00:31:58,770 --> 00:32:00,120 to the teacher. 749 00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:05,120 So once the student has a first draft, 750 00:32:05,130 --> 00:32:08,880 they can then submit it for feedback. 751 00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:11,790 Once they submit it for feedback, what we do 752 00:32:11,790 --> 00:32:16,790 is we generate suggestions in these five categories up here. 753 00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:20,370 Introduction, evidence and reasoning, structure 754 00:32:20,370 --> 00:32:24,210 and organization, conclusion and style and tone. 755 00:32:24,210 --> 00:32:28,050 And again, these are each meticulously crafted to make sure 756 00:32:28,050 --> 00:32:31,140 that the feedback is grade level appropriate. 757 00:32:31,140 --> 00:32:34,050 Because again, we know what grade level you put in 758 00:32:34,050 --> 00:32:35,250 for the students, we know 759 00:32:35,250 --> 00:32:36,780 what the assignment instructions were. 760 00:32:36,780 --> 00:32:39,930 If you said, you know, make sure there's MLA citations 761 00:32:39,930 --> 00:32:42,630 and make sure that there's this or that. 762 00:32:42,630 --> 00:32:46,020 It's going to put that feedback under these categories. 763 00:32:46,020 --> 00:32:47,400 And these categories might be different 764 00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:49,170 from the rubrics that you're used to working with, 765 00:32:49,170 --> 00:32:51,630 but all of the feedback that you would get, 766 00:32:51,630 --> 00:32:56,010 for example, on the New Hampshire SAS test 767 00:32:56,010 --> 00:32:57,930 would still be reflected in these categories. 768 00:32:57,930 --> 00:33:00,750 So introduction will contain feedback on things 769 00:33:00,750 --> 00:33:03,900 like statement of purpose, evidence and reasoning, 770 00:33:03,900 --> 00:33:06,930 will have things like evidence and elaboration. 771 00:33:06,930 --> 00:33:09,060 Structure and conclusion will contain feedback related 772 00:33:09,060 --> 00:33:10,770 to focus and organization 773 00:33:10,770 --> 00:33:13,320 and style and tone will contain conventions 774 00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:15,180 and editing feedback. 775 00:33:15,180 --> 00:33:18,720 And for SAT, that feedback also will be reflected 776 00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:20,670 across those different categories. 777 00:33:20,670 --> 00:33:23,730 One thing to note about reading with SAT, once again, 778 00:33:23,730 --> 00:33:27,030 if you don't either include the short passage itself 779 00:33:27,030 --> 00:33:29,010 in the essay prompt and instructions 780 00:33:29,010 --> 00:33:31,440 or that the prompt is kind of, 781 00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:33,390 or the essay itself is too long, 782 00:33:33,390 --> 00:33:35,640 or the reading passage rather is too long, 783 00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:39,360 or it's kind of a not super well-known passage, 784 00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:42,600 it might struggle with the reading feedback part for SAT 785 00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:44,670 because it doesn't know what the heck this story 786 00:33:44,670 --> 00:33:46,380 or passage is that you're talking about. 787 00:33:46,380 --> 00:33:49,020 So if you have an example of a passage 788 00:33:49,020 --> 00:33:51,030 that's short enough to include in the prompt 789 00:33:51,030 --> 00:33:54,300 or is well-known enough to just be referenced in the prompt, 790 00:33:54,300 --> 00:33:55,650 then it will give feedback related 791 00:33:55,650 --> 00:33:57,250 to your analysis of the reading. 792 00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:01,770 A couple of other things to point out 793 00:34:01,770 --> 00:34:04,140 in our feedback interface. 794 00:34:04,140 --> 00:34:05,883 For every piece of feedback, 795 00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:10,950 including even positive phrase, which you don't always get, 796 00:34:10,950 --> 00:34:13,260 not every kid gets positive praise in every category, 797 00:34:13,260 --> 00:34:17,010 but if they do something well, we try to point that out. 798 00:34:17,010 --> 00:34:20,670 Before any feedback that's critical or actionable, 799 00:34:20,670 --> 00:34:23,340 what we noticed when we first launched this version 800 00:34:23,340 --> 00:34:26,100 of the product is that many students 801 00:34:26,100 --> 00:34:27,480 didn't really know what to do next. 802 00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:31,470 They saw the feedback and they were like, okay, now what? 803 00:34:31,470 --> 00:34:33,900 And we let them chat with Khanmigo about it, 804 00:34:33,900 --> 00:34:36,390 but they didn't know how to chat with Khanmigo about it. 805 00:34:36,390 --> 00:34:39,870 So we added these different examples of how you can talk 806 00:34:39,870 --> 00:34:42,630 to Khanmigo about the feedback that you're getting. 807 00:34:42,630 --> 00:34:44,910 So some of the things that we let students do, 808 00:34:44,910 --> 00:34:46,680 and they can ask any question they want 809 00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:49,650 as long as it's related to improving their essay, 810 00:34:49,650 --> 00:34:52,500 but we let them ask for an example 811 00:34:52,500 --> 00:34:53,970 from another essay prompt. 812 00:34:53,970 --> 00:34:55,740 So if the feedback is related 813 00:34:55,740 --> 00:34:58,920 to adding more context in your introduction, 814 00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:01,110 then it'll give an example of an essay 815 00:35:01,110 --> 00:35:02,340 on a completely different topic 816 00:35:02,340 --> 00:35:04,650 where it kind of shows them what what it means 817 00:35:04,650 --> 00:35:07,833 by giving more context to the reader in the introduction. 818 00:35:08,820 --> 00:35:12,240 We let them ask a follow up question to explain 819 00:35:12,240 --> 00:35:14,880 the suggestion, so if the student just doesn't really get 820 00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:17,460 what it's saying, they can click explain suggestion 821 00:35:17,460 --> 00:35:18,900 and it'll reword it for them. 822 00:35:18,900 --> 00:35:21,990 Or the student can say, break it down for me even more, 823 00:35:21,990 --> 00:35:25,140 or be more specific and it'll respond to that. 824 00:35:25,140 --> 00:35:27,090 And then the other thing that it does, 825 00:35:27,090 --> 00:35:30,570 which I think is probably the most useful is the student can 826 00:35:30,570 --> 00:35:34,020 actually edit their essay in that box. 827 00:35:34,020 --> 00:35:36,210 So they can go back at any point 828 00:35:36,210 --> 00:35:38,610 and they can change the sentence, they can erase, 829 00:35:38,610 --> 00:35:42,060 they can revise, they can edit anything they want 830 00:35:42,060 --> 00:35:44,610 and then they can say, check my revision. 831 00:35:44,610 --> 00:35:47,490 And Khanmigo will reference the feedback 832 00:35:47,490 --> 00:35:49,350 that the student is talking about 833 00:35:49,350 --> 00:35:51,150 and it will look at the essay before 834 00:35:51,150 --> 00:35:54,720 and after the student asked it to check their revision 835 00:35:54,720 --> 00:35:57,540 and it will actually reassess did they fix it? 836 00:35:57,540 --> 00:35:59,643 Like did they actually add enough context now 837 00:35:59,643 --> 00:36:01,530 that it makes sense to the reader 838 00:36:01,530 --> 00:36:02,880 what they're talking about. 839 00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:04,980 And Khanmigo will kind of give them a thumbs up 840 00:36:04,980 --> 00:36:06,330 or you know, it's not quite there yet 841 00:36:06,330 --> 00:36:08,250 and help them work through that. 842 00:36:08,250 --> 00:36:10,530 So anytime a student is, you know, 843 00:36:10,530 --> 00:36:13,590 uncertain about is that better, did it fix it? 844 00:36:13,590 --> 00:36:15,090 That's a really useful tool 845 00:36:15,090 --> 00:36:16,830 to have them do the revision live 846 00:36:16,830 --> 00:36:19,860 in the interface and then ask Khanmigo if they fixed it. 847 00:36:19,860 --> 00:36:22,260 And as they're making the revisions and edits, 848 00:36:22,260 --> 00:36:25,830 they can mark each different piece of feedback as resolved. 849 00:36:25,830 --> 00:36:29,310 Once they're done revising, they can export their essay 850 00:36:29,310 --> 00:36:33,420 to PDF or Microsoft Word, or Google Drive. 851 00:36:33,420 --> 00:36:36,840 If you all use any of those kind of platforms 852 00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:39,420 and you wanna do your grading there of their final draft 853 00:36:39,420 --> 00:36:41,070 or whatever, those are some methods 854 00:36:41,070 --> 00:36:42,420 where you can have your students 855 00:36:42,420 --> 00:36:44,850 kind of export their final drafts to those places. 856 00:36:44,850 --> 00:36:46,860 But at the same time, you will also have access 857 00:36:46,860 --> 00:36:48,980 to final draft directly in Writing Coach 858 00:36:48,980 --> 00:36:51,903 in your kind of teacher dashboard. 859 00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:57,723 So this is what the teacher experience looks like. 860 00:36:59,310 --> 00:37:01,800 For every writing coach assignment that a teacher creates, 861 00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:04,320 there is a class assignment report. 862 00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:07,380 The class assignment report includes the information 863 00:37:07,380 --> 00:37:08,700 about the assignment that you added. 864 00:37:08,700 --> 00:37:10,890 So you can expand it to view the essay instructions 865 00:37:10,890 --> 00:37:11,723 that you wrote. 866 00:37:12,660 --> 00:37:13,980 But then this is where you can see 867 00:37:13,980 --> 00:37:16,140 for all of the students in your class, 868 00:37:16,140 --> 00:37:17,940 where in the writing process they are? 869 00:37:17,940 --> 00:37:20,430 So if students are haven't started yet 870 00:37:20,430 --> 00:37:22,257 or maybe they're still chatting with Khanmigo 871 00:37:22,257 --> 00:37:24,420 and understanding or if they're outlining, 872 00:37:24,420 --> 00:37:28,500 if they're actively drafting, or if they are revising, 873 00:37:28,500 --> 00:37:29,880 or if they've marked it as complete, 874 00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:31,080 you can see it from this dashboard 875 00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:35,040 to get a sense of the progress that's being made. 876 00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:36,660 We also have flags to let you know 877 00:37:36,660 --> 00:37:39,240 if somebody submitted something by the due date, 878 00:37:39,240 --> 00:37:42,067 but then edit it after the due date passed. 879 00:37:42,067 --> 00:37:44,100 So you can go in and kind of see what exactly they did 880 00:37:44,100 --> 00:37:45,570 after the due date passed. 881 00:37:45,570 --> 00:37:48,990 And obviously, if they didn't submit it by the due date, 882 00:37:48,990 --> 00:37:50,703 we'll also flag that as past due. 883 00:37:51,870 --> 00:37:54,750 Other things you can see from this dashboard, 884 00:37:54,750 --> 00:37:56,940 how much time students spent. 885 00:37:56,940 --> 00:37:58,590 This is active time, 886 00:37:58,590 --> 00:38:01,260 this isn't just like they had their browser open 887 00:38:01,260 --> 00:38:04,620 and they went to sleep like this is actively scrolling 888 00:38:04,620 --> 00:38:08,220 on the page or talking to Khanmigo or writing, or revising, 889 00:38:08,220 --> 00:38:10,980 or any of the things that you could be doing on the page. 890 00:38:10,980 --> 00:38:13,080 So that's the active time that they spent. 891 00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:15,357 And what we typically find with Writing Coach 892 00:38:15,357 --> 00:38:17,730 for the partners who have been using it so far 893 00:38:17,730 --> 00:38:20,070 is that the average time spent 894 00:38:20,070 --> 00:38:23,850 is about two hours for one essay. 895 00:38:23,850 --> 00:38:25,470 And that includes everything from understanding 896 00:38:25,470 --> 00:38:27,063 all the way to completed. 897 00:38:29,430 --> 00:38:32,490 The column under writing feedback, 898 00:38:32,490 --> 00:38:34,470 that's where you can see the number 899 00:38:34,470 --> 00:38:36,570 of suggestions Khanmigo gave. 900 00:38:36,570 --> 00:38:41,130 So you know, if they got 20 suggestions versus like five, 901 00:38:41,130 --> 00:38:42,420 that'll tell you a little bit about 902 00:38:42,420 --> 00:38:44,730 how good their first draft was. 903 00:38:44,730 --> 00:38:46,650 And you can also see how much of that feedback 904 00:38:46,650 --> 00:38:49,170 they have resolved, if they've resolved any of it. 905 00:38:49,170 --> 00:38:50,490 So if they've submitted it, 906 00:38:50,490 --> 00:38:52,320 but they didn't resolve any feedback, 907 00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:53,730 maybe they just didn't click the button 908 00:38:53,730 --> 00:38:56,460 but maybe they didn't actually make any revisions, 909 00:38:56,460 --> 00:38:59,820 I would click in there and see exactly what happened. 910 00:38:59,820 --> 00:39:03,510 Word count is another piece of data that you have here. 911 00:39:03,510 --> 00:39:05,730 And then the originality flags, 912 00:39:05,730 --> 00:39:08,220 these are where Khanmigo will tell you 913 00:39:08,220 --> 00:39:11,190 if the student pasted something 914 00:39:11,190 --> 00:39:13,560 that wasn't from their outline into their draft 915 00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:15,690 or into their revised draft. 916 00:39:15,690 --> 00:39:18,240 So if they're pasting from their outline, that's fine. 917 00:39:18,240 --> 00:39:23,100 If they're pasting into their outline evidence, that's fine. 918 00:39:23,100 --> 00:39:24,720 If they're pasting, you know, 919 00:39:24,720 --> 00:39:27,720 more than a couple of words into their main points 920 00:39:27,720 --> 00:39:32,280 or their thesis, or their evidence elaboration, 921 00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:34,650 not evidence, but their reasoning and elaboration 922 00:39:34,650 --> 00:39:36,660 of their outline, that'll get flagged. 923 00:39:36,660 --> 00:39:39,240 And if they're pasting, I think more than five 924 00:39:39,240 --> 00:39:41,910 or 10 words, I forget exactly into their draft, 925 00:39:41,910 --> 00:39:43,470 or in their revisions, 926 00:39:43,470 --> 00:39:45,780 that's also gonna raise a flag for you. 927 00:39:45,780 --> 00:39:49,140 And of course, this is not foolproof, right? 928 00:39:49,140 --> 00:39:51,930 Students might reasonably be pacing in a new piece 929 00:39:51,930 --> 00:39:52,920 of evidence that they found, 930 00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:55,140 maybe Khanmigo gave them feedback during revising 931 00:39:55,140 --> 00:39:57,330 that their evidence wasn't that great, 932 00:39:57,330 --> 00:39:59,400 so they went and found a new piece. 933 00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:03,030 You then can go in and check to see is this a real issue 934 00:40:03,030 --> 00:40:04,290 or was this flagged 935 00:40:04,290 --> 00:40:07,500 because they pasted in new evidence or something like that. 936 00:40:07,500 --> 00:40:10,500 And of course, students will always have their ways, 937 00:40:10,500 --> 00:40:11,880 but we do think that this helps 938 00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:14,400 with a lot of the transparency and from what we've seen, 939 00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:17,970 it has caught a lot of students. 940 00:40:17,970 --> 00:40:20,550 So this is what it looks like if you go into the, 941 00:40:20,550 --> 00:40:23,400 what we call the individual student essay report. 942 00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:25,440 So this is when you click on one of those students 943 00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:28,230 or you click on one of those originality flags, 944 00:40:28,230 --> 00:40:31,290 you get the entire student writing process. 945 00:40:31,290 --> 00:40:35,070 So you can see everything from every single chat 946 00:40:35,070 --> 00:40:37,500 that they had with Khanmigo from the very beginning. 947 00:40:37,500 --> 00:40:40,710 You can see their entire outlining history. 948 00:40:40,710 --> 00:40:42,930 You can see their chats while they were outlining. 949 00:40:42,930 --> 00:40:44,430 You can see their draft history, 950 00:40:44,430 --> 00:40:46,080 their chats while they were drafting. 951 00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:49,170 You can see the first draft that they submitted 952 00:40:49,170 --> 00:40:50,730 for Khanmigo for feedback. 953 00:40:50,730 --> 00:40:53,160 You can see the feedback that Khanmigo gave. 954 00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:55,680 You can see when they chatted with Khanmigo about feedback, 955 00:40:55,680 --> 00:40:57,330 you can see the revisions that they made. 956 00:40:57,330 --> 00:40:59,490 You can see if they edited after the due date passed. 957 00:40:59,490 --> 00:41:00,840 You can see what the essay looked like 958 00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:02,070 when the due date passed. 959 00:41:02,070 --> 00:41:04,950 So we provide a lot of transparency 960 00:41:04,950 --> 00:41:06,513 into the writing process here. 961 00:41:07,380 --> 00:41:11,100 We do not expect every teacher to dig in 962 00:41:11,100 --> 00:41:13,230 and look at this, all of this data for every kid 963 00:41:13,230 --> 00:41:15,360 that would increase the amount of work 964 00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:17,280 that we'd be expecting teachers to do. 965 00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:19,290 But this is here for when you need it. 966 00:41:19,290 --> 00:41:23,550 So the reason why this page is so important 967 00:41:23,550 --> 00:41:26,640 is this page kind of tells you where to drill down. 968 00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:29,880 So again, if you have students who wrote an essay 969 00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:33,840 from start to finish in 30 minutes, maybe we check that kid. 970 00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:37,320 If you have a student who got 20 pieces of feedback 971 00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:40,230 and resolved none of it, maybe drill down into that one. 972 00:41:40,230 --> 00:41:42,360 Anytime you see an originality flag, 973 00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:44,880 that would be a good reason to drill down. 974 00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:47,010 So there's a lot of data here, 975 00:41:47,010 --> 00:41:50,250 but the intent is to make it easier to figure out 976 00:41:50,250 --> 00:41:51,630 who should we really look at? 977 00:41:51,630 --> 00:41:53,130 Who should we drill down into? 978 00:41:53,130 --> 00:41:54,300 And in cases where you do have 979 00:41:54,300 --> 00:41:57,630 to investigate potential issues of plagiarism, 980 00:41:57,630 --> 00:41:58,860 there's a lot of information here 981 00:41:58,860 --> 00:42:01,710 that can help you understand what exactly happened 982 00:42:01,710 --> 00:42:02,883 in the whole process. 983 00:42:05,220 --> 00:42:07,620 All right. Oh, and real quick, 984 00:42:07,620 --> 00:42:12,300 for those of you who are school or district administrators, 985 00:42:12,300 --> 00:42:15,570 there is also some Writing Coach related data 986 00:42:15,570 --> 00:42:19,620 that you can find in the KAD admin dashboard. 987 00:42:19,620 --> 00:42:22,920 So any time that students spend working on Writing Coach, 988 00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:24,780 that active time spent that you saw 989 00:42:24,780 --> 00:42:26,970 that gets reflected in learning minutes 990 00:42:26,970 --> 00:42:29,760 and actual student engagement with Writing Coach 991 00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:32,250 would be reflected as an activity 992 00:42:32,250 --> 00:42:33,720 under the Khanmigo usage section. 993 00:42:33,720 --> 00:42:34,920 So you can get a sense of the number 994 00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:37,200 of students using Khanmigo Writing Coach 995 00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:38,127 or the percentage of students 996 00:42:38,127 --> 00:42:40,260 who are using Khanmigo Writing Coach 997 00:42:40,260 --> 00:42:43,710 and, you know, drill that down into different schools 998 00:42:43,710 --> 00:42:45,600 or whatever you're looking at. 999 00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:49,110 So I'm gonna actually switch 1000 00:42:49,110 --> 00:42:52,410 'cause I have a couple of minutes. 1001 00:42:52,410 --> 00:42:57,410 I'm gonna switch over to the live experience 1002 00:42:57,690 --> 00:42:59,910 'cause next I'm gonna give you all a chance 1003 00:42:59,910 --> 00:43:04,260 to log into your accounts and play around with this. 1004 00:43:04,260 --> 00:43:08,163 So again, when you're logged into your Khan Academy account, 1005 00:43:09,060 --> 00:43:11,060 you wanna click on the Khanmigo dropdown 1006 00:43:12,030 --> 00:43:15,600 and go to Learner activities, which is this page. 1007 00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:16,683 I'll just show you. 1008 00:43:22,710 --> 00:43:24,510 Okay, when you click on Learner Activities, 1009 00:43:24,510 --> 00:43:25,713 it'll take you here. 1010 00:43:26,940 --> 00:43:30,630 You're gonna scroll down on the left hand side menu here 1011 00:43:30,630 --> 00:43:31,983 and click on Writing Coach. 1012 00:43:33,990 --> 00:43:36,090 And again, your students can do this as well. 1013 00:43:36,090 --> 00:43:38,850 Students can't assign and they have a different button here. 1014 00:43:38,850 --> 00:43:41,670 They can actually use Writing Coach on their own. 1015 00:43:41,670 --> 00:43:43,950 If they just want extra help with an essay, 1016 00:43:43,950 --> 00:43:45,720 you don't need to assign it to them. 1017 00:43:45,720 --> 00:43:48,480 But if you assign it to them, then you get that class report 1018 00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:50,370 and all of those useful insights. 1019 00:43:50,370 --> 00:43:52,950 So you'll see three tabs here. 1020 00:43:52,950 --> 00:43:55,620 The two most important tabs are your assignments 1021 00:43:55,620 --> 00:43:59,100 that you've created for your classes and your essays. 1022 00:43:59,100 --> 00:44:02,550 Your essays are, is kind of like your playground 1023 00:44:02,550 --> 00:44:03,383 for Writing Coach. 1024 00:44:03,383 --> 00:44:04,800 So if you wanted to model 1025 00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:07,230 how to use Writing coach in a classroom, 1026 00:44:07,230 --> 00:44:09,570 you can create your own essay 1027 00:44:09,570 --> 00:44:12,510 and that will show up under my essays. 1028 00:44:12,510 --> 00:44:15,570 So if you click Try Student Experience, 1029 00:44:15,570 --> 00:44:18,720 that's gonna create an essay under your essays, okay? 1030 00:44:18,720 --> 00:44:22,320 So if you wanted to demo for students how to use this, 1031 00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:25,050 you could use that tool to kind of show them 1032 00:44:25,050 --> 00:44:27,060 and work through it together. 1033 00:44:27,060 --> 00:44:29,130 But your assignments will show up 1034 00:44:29,130 --> 00:44:30,990 under the My Assignments tab. 1035 00:44:30,990 --> 00:44:34,290 One of the things that I would encourage you all to explore 1036 00:44:34,290 --> 00:44:36,990 once I let you go off and try this out, 1037 00:44:36,990 --> 00:44:40,290 we have two different sample essays under my essays. 1038 00:44:40,290 --> 00:44:41,910 So when you log in, obviously, 1039 00:44:41,910 --> 00:44:43,350 writing an essay, it takes a long time. 1040 00:44:43,350 --> 00:44:45,990 So even if you are experimenting with Writing Coach 1041 00:44:45,990 --> 00:44:47,340 or just trying it out, 1042 00:44:47,340 --> 00:44:49,980 we don't want you to have to actually outline 1043 00:44:49,980 --> 00:44:52,410 and write an entire essay just to see how it works. 1044 00:44:52,410 --> 00:44:56,010 So these sample essays have pre-filled in outlines 1045 00:44:56,010 --> 00:44:58,770 and drafts so that you can just see what it looks like. 1046 00:44:58,770 --> 00:45:00,900 So if I go into, let's see, 1047 00:45:00,900 --> 00:45:03,570 Daylight Savings Time persuasive essay, 1048 00:45:03,570 --> 00:45:05,373 I'm gonna go back to the beginning. 1049 00:45:06,810 --> 00:45:09,600 This is the student preview, this is not a real essay, 1050 00:45:09,600 --> 00:45:12,030 but you can see that there's the essay instructions 1051 00:45:12,030 --> 00:45:14,760 over here and then Khanmigo go over here, 1052 00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:18,780 you can chat with it, you can move on to outlining 1053 00:45:18,780 --> 00:45:22,230 and it's already pre-filled in with some outlining. 1054 00:45:22,230 --> 00:45:23,673 I would recommend that you play around 1055 00:45:23,673 --> 00:45:25,080 with the leading stuff 1056 00:45:25,080 --> 00:45:28,320 or making totally weird random evidence like 1057 00:45:28,320 --> 00:45:30,540 that has nothing to do with the assignment 1058 00:45:30,540 --> 00:45:33,210 and talk to Khanmigo and see what happens. 1059 00:45:33,210 --> 00:45:36,660 You can try out, you know, asking it general questions 1060 00:45:36,660 --> 00:45:37,740 about what to do next. 1061 00:45:37,740 --> 00:45:39,120 You know, if you leave a bunch of things blank 1062 00:45:39,120 --> 00:45:41,250 and see how it responds there. 1063 00:45:41,250 --> 00:45:43,260 When you get into drafting, 1064 00:45:43,260 --> 00:45:45,720 you can see that it's gonna do the check 1065 00:45:45,720 --> 00:45:46,980 and I haven't deleted anything, 1066 00:45:46,980 --> 00:45:48,167 so hopefully all these boxes are... 1067 00:45:48,167 --> 00:45:49,710 Oh, it still thinks. 1068 00:45:49,710 --> 00:45:52,290 Okay, so there are suggestions with the default. 1069 00:45:52,290 --> 00:45:54,480 So this is what it looks like if you do not meet 1070 00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:59,480 those basic expectations, it will give you the examples 1071 00:45:59,850 --> 00:46:01,650 of what you need to fix. 1072 00:46:01,650 --> 00:46:03,750 And technically, if you're like, eh, I disagree, 1073 00:46:03,750 --> 00:46:05,190 you can ignore and move on. 1074 00:46:05,190 --> 00:46:07,260 Or you can go back down here 1075 00:46:07,260 --> 00:46:09,693 and you can revise your outline. 1076 00:46:11,100 --> 00:46:13,470 I'm gonna just ignore and move on to show you 1077 00:46:13,470 --> 00:46:15,360 the drafting experience. 1078 00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:18,090 Again, we've pre-filled in a draft here for you. 1079 00:46:18,090 --> 00:46:20,700 When a student starts on this page, it's gonna be blank, 1080 00:46:20,700 --> 00:46:24,510 but just to show you, this is the outline on this side. 1081 00:46:24,510 --> 00:46:26,760 So if the student is pasting from their outline, 1082 00:46:26,760 --> 00:46:28,350 they're just gonna click copy 1083 00:46:28,350 --> 00:46:30,510 for whatever section they wanna paste in 1084 00:46:30,510 --> 00:46:32,880 and paste it into their draft field. 1085 00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:35,850 And again, down here that's where they can switch to chat 1086 00:46:35,850 --> 00:46:39,030 or just view the assignment instructions again. 1087 00:46:39,030 --> 00:46:41,223 And when we move to revising, 1088 00:46:42,720 --> 00:46:46,503 it's gonna generate the feedback for you in real-time. 1089 00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:51,030 And you can see as it's generating 1090 00:46:51,030 --> 00:46:52,950 the different pieces of feedback that you get. 1091 00:46:52,950 --> 00:46:55,740 And again, like you can interact with all of these chats. 1092 00:46:55,740 --> 00:46:58,290 When you're done with the sample essay, 1093 00:46:58,290 --> 00:47:00,090 if you wanna just delete it and start over, 1094 00:47:00,090 --> 00:47:03,240 you can press delete and that's just gonna erase 1095 00:47:03,240 --> 00:47:06,120 the sample essay and you can see a fresh new one down here 1096 00:47:06,120 --> 00:47:07,890 at the bottom and you can start over. 1097 00:47:07,890 --> 00:47:09,060 So this is also really helpful 1098 00:47:09,060 --> 00:47:12,330 if you're just showing students how to use Writing Coach 1099 00:47:12,330 --> 00:47:14,430 so you don't have to actually type in 1100 00:47:14,430 --> 00:47:16,530 maybe all of the outlines or the drafts. 1101 00:47:16,530 --> 00:47:18,780 This is kind of a quick way to try out Writing Coach, 1102 00:47:18,780 --> 00:47:20,520 so you can play around with that. 1103 00:47:20,520 --> 00:47:23,100 You can also play around with actually creating 1104 00:47:23,100 --> 00:47:24,330 a Writing Coach assignment 1105 00:47:24,330 --> 00:47:27,300 if your Khan Academy account has classes 1106 00:47:27,300 --> 00:47:28,950 just to see what that looks like. 1107 00:47:30,540 --> 00:47:33,480 Or you can create your own essay 1108 00:47:33,480 --> 00:47:35,550 that has a prompt of your choice. 1109 00:47:35,550 --> 00:47:37,200 So those are some of the different ways 1110 00:47:37,200 --> 00:47:38,520 that you can do that. 1111 00:47:38,520 --> 00:47:41,400 I will also, as you guys are doing that, 1112 00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:45,630 I will leave up one of those sample teacher reports up here. 1113 00:47:45,630 --> 00:47:48,540 So if you are curious and you wanna take a closer look 1114 00:47:48,540 --> 00:47:49,980 at what that looks like, 1115 00:47:49,980 --> 00:47:53,428 I can kind of show you what that looks like too. 1116 00:47:53,428 --> 00:47:57,030 All right, are there any questions? 1117 00:47:57,030 --> 00:48:02,030 Let me go back to the deck about, yes. 1118 00:48:02,250 --> 00:48:04,980 - So if a student, you know, ignores, ignores, 1119 00:48:04,980 --> 00:48:08,160 ignores, submits, is there a function in there 1120 00:48:08,160 --> 00:48:10,020 for the teacher to kick it right back track, 1121 00:48:10,020 --> 00:48:12,060 try it again? - That's a great question. 1122 00:48:12,060 --> 00:48:13,500 As long as the due date hasn't passed, 1123 00:48:13,500 --> 00:48:15,330 they can go right back. 1124 00:48:15,330 --> 00:48:17,700 They can go back and and do it again, but- 1125 00:48:17,700 --> 00:48:19,740 - [Attendee] But is there a specific, 1126 00:48:19,740 --> 00:48:20,940 like the teacher can send it back 1127 00:48:20,940 --> 00:48:23,820 or the kid can just go in? - The kid can go in 1128 00:48:23,820 --> 00:48:28,820 and actually, so they can go back if they haven't, 1129 00:48:29,460 --> 00:48:30,390 the only difference... 1130 00:48:30,390 --> 00:48:31,560 Okay, let me think about this. 1131 00:48:31,560 --> 00:48:33,540 They can go back at any point 1132 00:48:33,540 --> 00:48:36,810 and they can modify their outline, their draft 1133 00:48:36,810 --> 00:48:39,090 or their revised draft at any point 1134 00:48:39,090 --> 00:48:41,340 if the due date hasn't passed. 1135 00:48:41,340 --> 00:48:44,310 If they have already generated feedback 1136 00:48:44,310 --> 00:48:47,970 on their first draft, Khanmigo can't generate feedback again 1137 00:48:47,970 --> 00:48:49,050 on that same assignment. 1138 00:48:49,050 --> 00:48:51,000 They only get one chance to generate feedback. 1139 00:48:51,000 --> 00:48:53,160 But what you can do is have them do it with 1140 00:48:53,160 --> 00:48:58,160 the start your own essay and have them do it again there, 1141 00:48:58,230 --> 00:48:59,880 it's not gonna be part of the assignment. 1142 00:48:59,880 --> 00:49:01,560 That's one of the things that 1143 00:49:01,560 --> 00:49:02,673 we've heard a few people be like, 1144 00:49:02,673 --> 00:49:04,770 that be really nice, if I could just be like, start over. 1145 00:49:04,770 --> 00:49:06,330 - [Attendee] You like to encourage them to, 1146 00:49:06,330 --> 00:49:08,610 okay, let's improve upon what we've got. 1147 00:49:08,610 --> 00:49:10,920 - Yes. - I'm gonna send this 1148 00:49:10,920 --> 00:49:11,753 back to you right now. 1149 00:49:11,753 --> 00:49:12,780 This is what it's going in as, 1150 00:49:12,780 --> 00:49:15,090 but we're gonna keep working on this. 1151 00:49:15,090 --> 00:49:18,840 And I know for me I would have a due date. 1152 00:49:18,840 --> 00:49:20,340 And I guess that was the due date, 1153 00:49:20,340 --> 00:49:22,390 but as a middle school teacher especially 1154 00:49:23,310 --> 00:49:26,190 that doesn't mean I'm done working with you. (chuckles) 1155 00:49:26,190 --> 00:49:28,230 I wanna give you an opportunity to review and improve 1156 00:49:28,230 --> 00:49:31,637 and continue to learn and grow and so- 1157 00:49:31,637 --> 00:49:32,910 - Agree. - I want 'em to be able 1158 00:49:32,910 --> 00:49:35,040 to edit- - I think actually, 1159 00:49:35,040 --> 00:49:38,370 I'm wrong about you can't, that's why we added 1160 00:49:38,370 --> 00:49:39,720 the edited after due date. 1161 00:49:39,720 --> 00:49:41,790 You can edit after the due date. 1162 00:49:41,790 --> 00:49:43,990 We just tell the teacher when they did that. 1163 00:49:44,940 --> 00:49:47,610 - [Attendee] It would really be nice to have us a function 1164 00:49:47,610 --> 00:49:49,080 that the teacher has sent it back. 1165 00:49:49,080 --> 00:49:50,820 - Yes. I agree. - Because a lot of times 1166 00:49:50,820 --> 00:49:53,100 otherwise the kids are gonna be like whatever I submitted. 1167 00:49:53,100 --> 00:49:53,933 - Yeah, I agree. 1168 00:49:53,933 --> 00:49:56,850 And actually later on, after we do all of this, 1169 00:49:56,850 --> 00:49:59,280 Bernadette and Barbara are gonna put up chart paper 1170 00:49:59,280 --> 00:50:01,710 where you're all going to share all of your feedback, 1171 00:50:01,710 --> 00:50:04,350 all of your ideas, we wanna hear from you, 1172 00:50:04,350 --> 00:50:06,660 how can we make this better? What's missing? 1173 00:50:06,660 --> 00:50:07,493 What are some of the things 1174 00:50:07,493 --> 00:50:09,060 that would make this more useful for all of you? 1175 00:50:09,060 --> 00:50:11,880 So save those nuggets and please add them 1176 00:50:11,880 --> 00:50:14,670 to the chart paper when we get to that, yes. 1177 00:50:14,670 --> 00:50:17,100 - If I'm a teacher and I create an assignment 1178 00:50:17,100 --> 00:50:22,100 and I put all my stuff in and then I assign it to my kids 1179 00:50:22,290 --> 00:50:23,970 and then let's call it a week later 1180 00:50:23,970 --> 00:50:25,770 while they're working on it, 1181 00:50:25,770 --> 00:50:28,143 I recognize that I forgot to add something, 1182 00:50:29,700 --> 00:50:33,930 I go back and I add, oh, it should have been APA not MLA. 1183 00:50:33,930 --> 00:50:36,420 Will the feedback for the students 1184 00:50:36,420 --> 00:50:38,340 that have already in the outlining and drafting, 1185 00:50:38,340 --> 00:50:39,933 will the feedback then adjust? 1186 00:50:41,460 --> 00:50:43,590 - No, not yet. - Okay. 1187 00:50:43,590 --> 00:50:46,020 - But we're working on that, yes. 1188 00:50:46,020 --> 00:50:48,000 - So is the feedback only 1189 00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:52,140 for writing style structure elaboration 1190 00:50:52,140 --> 00:50:55,470 or does it also take into account the content? 1191 00:50:55,470 --> 00:50:58,200 - It does take into account the contents, 1192 00:50:58,200 --> 00:51:03,200 but only if the student is writing about literature 1193 00:51:03,630 --> 00:51:06,300 or a reading passage and the reading passage 1194 00:51:06,300 --> 00:51:08,610 isn't super well-known, it might struggle 1195 00:51:08,610 --> 00:51:10,820 to like the student could technically make up, you know, 1196 00:51:10,820 --> 00:51:11,880 an article or something. 1197 00:51:11,880 --> 00:51:13,290 There's no way for the LLM to know 1198 00:51:13,290 --> 00:51:14,340 that that's a made up article. 1199 00:51:14,340 --> 00:51:16,260 - [Attendee] Because that's what I'm noticing 1200 00:51:16,260 --> 00:51:19,995 that I need to, if I need to score for the content 1201 00:51:19,995 --> 00:51:22,768 - Yes. - But it's giving structure, 1202 00:51:22,768 --> 00:51:24,030 but not the content. - Yeah. If you're assigning 1203 00:51:24,030 --> 00:51:26,880 an essay about Lord of the Flies or you know, 1204 00:51:26,880 --> 00:51:28,620 any kind of well-known book- - If we're doing 1205 00:51:28,620 --> 00:51:30,545 Revolutionary War or- - Yes, exactly. 1206 00:51:30,545 --> 00:51:32,400 - I'm experiment in science. - Exactly. 1207 00:51:32,400 --> 00:51:34,620 If you're referencing well-known things, 1208 00:51:34,620 --> 00:51:36,240 it will give feedback on content. 1209 00:51:36,240 --> 00:51:40,440 It'll say, you know, that's the wrong character. 1210 00:51:40,440 --> 00:51:42,663 It might point out like issues with that, 1211 00:51:43,680 --> 00:51:45,900 but it has to be kind of a well-known 1212 00:51:45,900 --> 00:51:47,160 or commonly known passage. 1213 00:51:47,160 --> 00:51:49,440 Or again, if it's a short passage, 1214 00:51:49,440 --> 00:51:50,970 you can just put the whole passage 1215 00:51:50,970 --> 00:51:53,160 in the assignment instructions for the AI 1216 00:51:53,160 --> 00:51:54,527 to have as a reference, yeah. 1217 00:51:54,527 --> 00:51:55,920 - [Attendee] I have two short questions. 1218 00:51:55,920 --> 00:51:58,860 First, if when it exports it to Google Drive, 1219 00:51:58,860 --> 00:52:02,250 do they have to go in and reformat it to look like 1220 00:52:02,250 --> 00:52:05,880 an MLA essay, double-spacing time, all that kind of stuff? 1221 00:52:05,880 --> 00:52:08,310 - They probably will have to do some reformatting. 1222 00:52:08,310 --> 00:52:10,410 - [Attendee] Okay. My other question is, 1223 00:52:10,410 --> 00:52:15,090 where do you see peer review kind of fitting in to this? 1224 00:52:15,090 --> 00:52:18,120 Like let's say they're doing their first draft via this, 1225 00:52:18,120 --> 00:52:20,283 they're getting legit feedback. 1226 00:52:21,510 --> 00:52:25,020 Would you then say, after you've gotten Khanmigo feedback, 1227 00:52:25,020 --> 00:52:26,910 still give it to a partner? Or would you say 1228 00:52:26,910 --> 00:52:28,470 do that before- - I would do that. 1229 00:52:28,470 --> 00:52:30,960 Yeah, I would have them export to Google Drive 1230 00:52:30,960 --> 00:52:33,030 and then share it with a partner and have that partner 1231 00:52:33,030 --> 00:52:35,763 kind of annotate it with Google Doc comments. 1232 00:52:36,960 --> 00:52:40,250 And then, I mean, you could also have them... 1233 00:52:41,250 --> 00:52:42,810 One of the things that we don't do yet, 1234 00:52:42,810 --> 00:52:46,650 but we wanna do is allow you to submit a draft 1235 00:52:46,650 --> 00:52:47,940 for feedback again. 1236 00:52:47,940 --> 00:52:51,510 So what we're actually planning on doing this year 1237 00:52:51,510 --> 00:52:53,730 is letting you just do the feedback part. 1238 00:52:53,730 --> 00:52:57,120 So if you just want students to put a draft in 1239 00:52:57,120 --> 00:52:59,490 and you don't really care about the whole writing process 1240 00:52:59,490 --> 00:53:02,280 being documented in Writing Coach and getting that support, 1241 00:53:02,280 --> 00:53:03,990 you just want them to get a feedback, 1242 00:53:03,990 --> 00:53:05,730 a round of feedback on a draft, 1243 00:53:05,730 --> 00:53:07,350 they will be able to do that. 1244 00:53:07,350 --> 00:53:08,640 So you could have them do that 1245 00:53:08,640 --> 00:53:11,460 after they did one round with Writing Coach 1246 00:53:11,460 --> 00:53:13,410 and then Google Docs with a peer 1247 00:53:13,410 --> 00:53:15,140 or something after. - If they're getting 1248 00:53:15,140 --> 00:53:17,610 conflicting comments from their partner 1249 00:53:17,610 --> 00:53:19,560 versus what they got from Khanmigo, 1250 00:53:19,560 --> 00:53:22,410 would you say it's then on the student to decide 1251 00:53:22,410 --> 00:53:25,230 what is appropriate feedback to take? 1252 00:53:25,230 --> 00:53:26,460 - I think so. 1253 00:53:26,460 --> 00:53:28,380 You could also go to Tutor Me Humanities, 1254 00:53:28,380 --> 00:53:31,170 which is another Khanmigo activity and have a student ask. 1255 00:53:31,170 --> 00:53:33,922 - Sure. - Kind go what they think. 1256 00:53:33,922 --> 00:53:34,800 But yeah, I think that's a good, 1257 00:53:34,800 --> 00:53:36,720 like higher order skill for the kid 1258 00:53:36,720 --> 00:53:38,880 is just to figure out, you know, 1259 00:53:38,880 --> 00:53:41,460 should I trust Khanmigo's feedback or my peers feedback? 1260 00:53:41,460 --> 00:53:43,800 Or maybe that's a time to just ask the teacher. 1261 00:53:43,800 --> 00:53:46,473 - Thank you. - Yeah. Other questions? 1262 00:53:48,930 --> 00:53:52,470 Okay. All right, so I'm gonna leave these directions up here 1263 00:53:52,470 --> 00:53:57,470 for you all, and we have until 11:30, I believe. 1264 00:53:58,080 --> 00:54:00,090 Yep. You have 'em until 11:30 for you all 1265 00:54:00,090 --> 00:54:01,440 to try out these different things, 1266 00:54:01,440 --> 00:54:03,403 log into your Khan Academy account, play around, 1267 00:54:03,403 --> 00:54:06,120 create assignments, create essays, 1268 00:54:06,120 --> 00:54:07,593 play with the sample essays. 1269 00:54:07,593 --> 00:54:11,110 Just go ahead and we'll tell you when the 15 minutes is up. 1270 00:54:13,320 --> 00:54:14,250 - Just trying to put in 1271 00:54:14,250 --> 00:54:16,380 like what a student response would be 1272 00:54:16,380 --> 00:54:18,870 and then what are some of that feedback that comes back. 1273 00:54:18,870 --> 00:54:23,200 And literally, it came up with I think 16 different 1274 00:54:24,990 --> 00:54:27,450 kind of prompts and things to resolve. 1275 00:54:27,450 --> 00:54:29,520 And as a student, we had to go through 1276 00:54:29,520 --> 00:54:32,100 and we were kinda doing this work together, 1277 00:54:32,100 --> 00:54:33,990 put in a sample piece of writing, 1278 00:54:33,990 --> 00:54:36,180 looking at all those suggestions, 1279 00:54:36,180 --> 00:54:38,670 and then you have to go through and like do the work. 1280 00:54:38,670 --> 00:54:40,410 It's not doing any of the work for you. 1281 00:54:40,410 --> 00:54:43,950 It continues to come back and say, you can have an example. 1282 00:54:43,950 --> 00:54:45,420 Here's an example, what we're talking about. 1283 00:54:45,420 --> 00:54:46,740 Do it yourself. 1284 00:54:46,740 --> 00:54:49,320 So I think teachers can be confident 1285 00:54:49,320 --> 00:54:51,630 that it's student work in the end. 1286 00:54:51,630 --> 00:54:53,790 And that's what we want to know is that students, 1287 00:54:53,790 --> 00:54:56,730 they're learning the process, there's modeling there, 1288 00:54:56,730 --> 00:54:59,280 there's examples and exemplars there, 1289 00:54:59,280 --> 00:55:01,410 but in the end it comes back to it's gotta be 1290 00:55:01,410 --> 00:55:04,470 that student's work, which I think is a piece that a lot 1291 00:55:04,470 --> 00:55:06,690 of teachers are gonna have reluctance with. 1292 00:55:06,690 --> 00:55:09,180 But our first kind of kick of the tires 1293 00:55:09,180 --> 00:55:12,570 and testing was that this is good, 1294 00:55:12,570 --> 00:55:16,320 this is gonna be really great for teachers and for students. 1295 00:55:16,320 --> 00:55:19,500 I love the ability for that instant feedback. 1296 00:55:19,500 --> 00:55:23,130 Teachers are very excited that students 1297 00:55:23,130 --> 00:55:26,670 have the ability to get that feedback on their writing, 1298 00:55:26,670 --> 00:55:31,080 their topic, their level, their struggles, whatever it is. 1299 00:55:31,080 --> 00:55:34,680 Instantaneously, one of our teachers said, oh my gosh, 1300 00:55:34,680 --> 00:55:38,640 this feedback would take me days to give back to students. 1301 00:55:38,640 --> 00:55:39,930 They're getting it instantaneously. 1302 00:55:39,930 --> 00:55:42,060 It is critical. 1303 00:55:42,060 --> 00:55:43,650 And that's something we as teachers 1304 00:55:43,650 --> 00:55:45,033 never have enough time for. 1305 00:55:46,110 --> 00:55:50,010 And it's feedback, the most important piece is as fast 1306 00:55:50,010 --> 00:55:51,810 as you can get it back to students. 1307 00:55:51,810 --> 00:55:52,890 Accurate, yes. 1308 00:55:52,890 --> 00:55:55,503 And, you know, personalized, 1309 00:55:56,730 --> 00:55:58,860 but timely is that one critical factor. 1310 00:55:58,860 --> 00:56:02,100 And Writing Coach is as timely as you can possibly get, 1311 00:56:02,100 --> 00:56:03,810 it's almost in instantaneous. 1312 00:56:03,810 --> 00:56:05,130 So that's exciting. 1313 00:56:05,130 --> 00:56:07,830 I really wanna support teachers in adopting 1314 00:56:07,830 --> 00:56:11,970 those smart AI tools that helps make teaching better, 1315 00:56:11,970 --> 00:56:13,220 makes it better for student learning. 1316 00:56:13,220 --> 00:56:15,750 At the end, it's all about student learning. 1317 00:56:15,750 --> 00:56:19,560 And this is an example of AI where really, 1318 00:56:19,560 --> 00:56:22,110 the focus is all on student learning. 1319 00:56:22,110 --> 00:56:25,770 I see very few downsides to this, 1320 00:56:25,770 --> 00:56:27,630 AI deployed in this way. 1321 00:56:27,630 --> 00:56:30,090 It's not just send 'em to ChatGPT 1322 00:56:30,090 --> 00:56:32,880 and say go for it and hope for the best. 1323 00:56:32,880 --> 00:56:34,350 This is very structured. 1324 00:56:34,350 --> 00:56:37,230 It's within Khan, we have oversight. 1325 00:56:37,230 --> 00:56:39,330 Teachers can see the whole process 1326 00:56:39,330 --> 00:56:40,710 and guide that whole process 1327 00:56:40,710 --> 00:56:43,950 and see what student are getting back from that. 1328 00:56:43,950 --> 00:56:47,700 So if any teachers are kind of on that fence, whether, 1329 00:56:47,700 --> 00:56:50,280 you know, how's AI gonna help? 1330 00:56:50,280 --> 00:56:52,770 This is a tool that they should be trying, 1331 00:56:52,770 --> 00:56:53,790 - That makes me feel better knowing 1332 00:56:53,790 --> 00:56:56,160 that I'm giving them a tool as opposed to something 1333 00:56:56,160 --> 00:56:58,260 that'll help them cheat or just think for them. 1334 00:56:58,260 --> 00:57:01,620 So it definitely helps them guide their thinking 1335 00:57:01,620 --> 00:57:04,710 and a source that you can trust that's reliable. 1336 00:57:04,710 --> 00:57:07,380 It's gonna give them good quality information 1337 00:57:07,380 --> 00:57:10,500 instead of just a bot auto-populating answers. 1338 00:57:10,500 --> 00:57:12,540 It'll free up a lot of time for teachers to meet 1339 00:57:12,540 --> 00:57:14,940 with the students who really need their help 1340 00:57:14,940 --> 00:57:16,740 and they can gauge which ones are grasping 1341 00:57:16,740 --> 00:57:20,250 the concepts more easily and spend more time on that 1342 00:57:20,250 --> 00:57:23,820 rather than checking all of the papers, all the steps. 1343 00:57:23,820 --> 00:57:28,230 - The Writing Coach is an extremely powerful tool 1344 00:57:28,230 --> 00:57:31,920 that will help students and teachers 1345 00:57:31,920 --> 00:57:34,200 begin the process of writing. 1346 00:57:34,200 --> 00:57:36,210 Not only in the feedback process, 1347 00:57:36,210 --> 00:57:40,680 but 20 years in the classroom, 1348 00:57:40,680 --> 00:57:44,640 one of the most common questions I get from students is, 1349 00:57:44,640 --> 00:57:45,663 how do I start this? 1350 00:57:46,673 --> 00:57:51,330 And the writing tool for Khan Academy really takes them 1351 00:57:51,330 --> 00:57:53,370 through that process of how to start it. 1352 00:57:53,370 --> 00:57:56,850 And if they have that question, how do I start this? 1353 00:57:56,850 --> 00:57:59,670 The fields are there, Khanmigo is there 1354 00:57:59,670 --> 00:58:02,790 to help them brainstorm, begin that process. 1355 00:58:02,790 --> 00:58:06,000 The assignment is there, so it's all in one place, 1356 00:58:06,000 --> 00:58:08,100 which I absolutely love. 1357 00:58:08,100 --> 00:58:11,670 Plus it's probably in whatever learning system 1358 00:58:11,670 --> 00:58:14,100 that they have, like Google Classrooms. 1359 00:58:14,100 --> 00:58:16,700 So I think that is super, super helpful for teachers 1360 00:58:17,700 --> 00:58:18,720 and students alike. 1361 00:58:18,720 --> 00:58:23,070 One-on-one because there is feedback being given, 1362 00:58:23,070 --> 00:58:25,110 it gives the teacher some time 1363 00:58:25,110 --> 00:58:28,530 to have more directed one-on-one time 1364 00:58:28,530 --> 00:58:32,520 into the deeper elements of the paper as opposed 1365 00:58:32,520 --> 00:58:36,060 to more superficial stuff like format or paragraphs, 1366 00:58:36,060 --> 00:58:37,503 or those things.