my experience when it comes to

disability being included in the
conversation

about inclusivity has been that in

general it hasn't been

It's only recently that it's really start

to move the needle on me, you do a lot of

work with sag-aftra in issues around
of diversity

and inclusivity and I got a say that the

performance of disability has done

phenomenal work in moving the needle

in getting this conversation happening in

the industry , its amazing how much energy

it takes to get that big old bolder role

in just an inch and they've done that

and it's starting to move now, it's

actually starting to role and people

have that in conversation 
cause-ahh-causepeople

I think what Iam most excited about
right now

is that so many people are talking about

equality and inclusivity and they are

trying to make sure that nobody get's

left out and so when you point out

to somebody that you are leaving out

the 20% of the population they pay

attention, they wake up

and so that to me has been, I think it's

not been nearly as hard a converstion

as it would have been 10-15 years ago

people suddenly go, oh ! you are right

I haven't been thinking about that 
i have'nt

been including performance of the

disabilities in my projects, I haven't

been hiring writers with disabilities

I haven't been looking for producer

so the simple fact that is being pointed

out to them in a sometimes in the

shaming way but sometimes in the

this action will improve your bottom line

because people always wanna see
themselves on camera

and this doesn't always either be
the point

in fact sometimes it's most powerful win