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my experience when it comes to

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disability being included in the
conversation

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about inclusivity has been that in

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general it hasn't been

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It's only recently that it's really start

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to move the needle on me, you do a lot of

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work with sag-aftra in issues around
of diversity

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and inclusivity and I got a say that the

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performance of disability has done

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phenomenal work in moving the needle

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in getting this conversation happening in

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the industry , its amazing how much energy

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it takes to get that big old bolder role

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in just an inch and they've done that

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and it's starting to move now, it's

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actually starting to role and people

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have that in conversation 
cause-ahh-causepeople

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I think what Iam most excited about
right now

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is that so many people are talking about

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equality and inclusivity and they are

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trying to make sure that nobody get's

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left out and so when you point out

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to somebody that you are leaving out

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the 20% of the population they pay

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attention, they wake up

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and so that to me has been, I think it's

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not been nearly as hard a converstion

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as it would have been 10-15 years ago

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people suddenly go, oh ! you are right

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I haven't been thinking about that 
i have'nt

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been including performance of the

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disabilities in my projects, I haven't

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been hiring writers with disabilities

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I haven't been looking for producer

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so the simple fact that is being pointed

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out to them in a sometimes in the

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shaming way but sometimes in the

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this action will improve your bottom line

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because people always wanna see
themselves on camera

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and this doesn't always either be
the point

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in fact sometimes it's most powerful win