WEBVTT 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 At various points over the past 20 years 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 I've studied two fundamental human experiences 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 that have taught me an awful lot about emotion, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and that may hold keys to a revolution in psychiatry. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 The first is how we experience music. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 The second is how we experience psychedelic drugs 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 such as LSD and magic mushrooms, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 or, psilocybin, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 which is the active component in magic mushrooms. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 You may be wondering what these two things have in common 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 outside of Woodstock -- 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 after all, music is not a physical substance. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 It can be described as a limited set of vibrations in the air 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 that can be detected by your ear. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 Music may seem to have more to do with aesthetics than with biology 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 or chemistry. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 Psychedelic drugs on the other hand are physical substances. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 They are chemical compounds that you can ingest 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 that directly interact with brain chemistry 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and change your experience of the world. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 This change is temporary 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 but the effects of this change can alter the course of your life. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 But let's face it: 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 psychedelics have the potential 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 to trigger unexpected and potentially dangerous effects. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 So what could these two very different things 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 possibly have in common? 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 I've found that music and psychedelics can impact our well-being 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 in powerful and complementary ways. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 Music can have a direct impact on our emotions 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 with measurable impacts on the brain; 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 psychedelic drugs, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 under the right circumstances, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 may have therapeutic effects. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 These effects can be manifest in patterns 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 that we can study and document with brain scans, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and together and leveraged in a purposeful fashion, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 music and psychedelics may have an even greater healing impact on patients. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 What's more, these effects can be manifest in healthier and happier lives 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and more integrated personalities. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 I began my journey into the mental health benefits of music 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 long before I ever intended to make such a journey. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 For roughly half of my life I've been a musician, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 having played in community orchestras, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 community theaters, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 wedding bands, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 a salsa-meringue band. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 I was a member of a string band in Philadelphia for many years. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 And for the better part of my formative years, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 I was the drummer in a Weezer-Nirvana cover band 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 that morphed into a hardcore punk band. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 (Laughter) 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 That's right. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 Drummer in a punk band. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 But it wasn't until I really began my career in psychology and neuroscience 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 that I began to also appreciate 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 how widely and how deeply we as a species, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 both implicitly and explicitly, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 use music as a tool to try to regulate our emotions 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and to heal. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 And for some us, music keeps us going. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 For others, music isn't quite enough. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 For me, this led to some fascinating questions. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 I began to use music as a tool to study emotion and memory in the brain. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 My first scientific study was focused on music-invoked nostalgia. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 Nostalgia's a rich and bittersweet emotion 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 that is intimately tied up with our autobiographical memories. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 We can often encounter nostalgia in unexpected places. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 You may have had the experience driving down the highway, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 turning on the radio 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 or firing up your favorite music recommendation service 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and you hear a song you haven't heard in ages, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and you get immediately transported back in time 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and dumped into this immersive memory -- 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 something you haven't thought about in ages 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 but was very meaningful to you -- 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 maybe wedding day or senior prom 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 or the birth of your first child 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 or the death of a loved one. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 Music can serve as a powerful context cue 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 for deeply meaningful and intensely vivid nostalgic memories such as these. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 Nostalgia in a sense is deeply woven into our sense of self. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 Who are we at our most authentic selves? 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 By connecting us with our emotional histories, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 nostalgia can help us to stave off sadness, loneliness, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 existential threat 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and even the imminence of death 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and the approaching horizon of our lives as we age. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 To try to get a better understanding of how music may tap into nostalgia 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and what that may be doing in the brain, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 I began to work with computational models of music cognition. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 I applied these models to interrogate brain activity 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 that was recorded while people were listening 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 to nostalgia-evoking and nonnostalgia evoking music. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 And importantly -- 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 at least to a brainiac like me -- 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 I found that nostalgia was able to recruit a wide network of brain regions 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 involved in multiple levels of difference cognitive processes. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 Whereas nonnostalgic music could recruit brain regions 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 such as Heschl's gyrus, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 involved in basic auditory processing, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 or Broca's area, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 which involved in processing grammar and syntax 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 not only in language but also in music. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 Nostalgia was able to recruit these brain regions and more. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 Brain regions such as the substantia nigra involved in reward processing 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 or the anterior insula involved in the visceral experience of emotion 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 or brain regions in the inferior frontal gyrus 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 that are involved in autobiographical memories. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 Nostalgia was also able to recruit a wide network of brain regions 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 in prefrontal, frontal, cingulate, insular, parietal, occipital 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and subcortical brain regions 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 that span nearly all of our cognitive faculties. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 This may explain why nostalgia can have such an outsized impact on us. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 But as powerful as it is in the moment, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 the salve of music-evoked nostalgia eventually fades. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 Nostalgia may be more of a Band-Aid, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 less of an antibiotic 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and typically far from a surgical intervention for our emotional health. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 Music can draw out nostalgia 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and music and nostalgia can move our feelings, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 but how do we make these feelings stick? 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 After studying the nostalgic brain, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 I joined a team at Johns Hopkins University 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 that was studying the effects of psychedelic drugs, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and I quickly began to learn how deeply a piece of music can impact a person 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 during a psychedelic experience. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 I was previously vexed by the difficulty in predicting precisely 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 what musical stimulus would evoke precisely what response 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 within a given individual. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 A song that evokes nostalgia in one person could just as easily evoke disinterest 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 of disgust in another person. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 I began to learn how deeply most music seemed to impact most people 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 during psychedelic experiences. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 Since at least the late '50s, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 the value of using music to help people 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 to navigate psychedelic experiences was clear. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 We continue this tradition in our modern research, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 asking volunteers to listen to music 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 during the course of a psychedelic therapy session, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and despite most people being mostly naive to the music that we play 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 before they get into the sessions, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 after these sessions, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 our volunteers practically beg us for the playlists. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 And some of them report returning to the songs 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 that were most impactful to them during their psychedelic experience 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 weeks, months and even many years after the experience. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 Somehow these songs can turn into touchstones 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 that can rekindle the most powerful and impactful and insightful experiences 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 that people encountered during their psychedelic sessions. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 Of course I had to know what was going on here. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 I began to deploy my batteries of questionnaires 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and my carefully crafted experiments 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and my big, fancy MRI machines 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 to try to determine just what could be happening 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 during these experiences 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 that could explain the depth of impact that people were encountering. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 At a basic psychological level, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 my colleagues and I determined that, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 for instance, LSD can increase positive emotions 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 that are uniquely encountered during music listening. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 This may have relevance just by itself for healthy individuals 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 as well as people suffering from mood and substance-use disorders. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 But what was happening in the brain? 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 Earlier we learned that the entire brain listens to nostalgic music. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 When applying computational models of music cognition 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 to interrogate brain activity that was recorded during music listening 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 under the effects of LSD, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 we found that the entire brain was listening to music 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and psychedelics were turning up the gain. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 Where nostalgia could recruit brain regions involved in language, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 memory and emotion, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 psychedelics were recruiting these brain regions 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 at least twice as strongly. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 Brain regions such as the thalamus 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 that's involved in basic sensory processing 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 or the medial prefrontal cortex 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and the posterior singular cortex, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 which can be involved in memory and emotion and mental imagery. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 These brain regions were recruited up to four times as strongly 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 during the effects of LSD than without LSD. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 Psychedelics turn the nob up to 11. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 Sensory information is more richly experienced in the brain. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 Emotions, memories and mental imagery are supercharged. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 And it may be the wholesale and strong recruitment 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 of a wide range of brain regions during these experiences 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 that is the necessary key to unlocking change 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 that sets these drugs and these experiences apart from others. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 And the effects can be longlasting. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 In a study of healthy individuals, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 I demonstrated that a single high dose of psilocybin 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 could reduce negative affect in volunteers for at least a week after psilocybin, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and increased positive affect 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 for at least a month after a single high dose of psilocybin. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 The reduction in negative affect 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 that we observed after psilocybin administration 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 was accompanied by a reduction one week after psilocybin 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 in the response of a primitive brain region called the amygdala 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 to emotional stimuli. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 In a separate study in patients with major depressive disorder, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 not only did we observe a substantial decrease in depression severity 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 in most of our patients after two doses of psilocybin, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 but we also observed a reduction in the amygdala response 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 to negative effective stimuli, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 specifically one week after psilocybin. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 This reduction in amygdala response 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 was associated with an enduring reduction in depression severity 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 for at least three months after psilocybin administration, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 but frankly, we're still counting. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 So what does this all mean? 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 It means that music and psychedelics may be able to alter the entire brain 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 for a period of time, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and that may lead to a change in neurocircuitry 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 that may be stuck in patterns of negative emotional bias. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 This may be able to give people a period of relief 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 from the grip and the claws of negative emotion. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 And that may be just enough to give someone access to perspectives 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 on their selves and their lives 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and begin on the road to healing from years of depression. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 These drugs are early in stages of research, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 but they're not being researched for a wide range of medical indications. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 There's a evidence growing 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 that psychedelics may be effective in helping to treat mood disorders 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 such as major depressive disorder, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 treatment-resistent depression 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and the depression and anxiety 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 that accompany a late-stage cancer diagnosis. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 There's also eveidence accumulating that psychedelics may be effective 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 in helping to treat a wide range of substance-use disorders, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 including smoking, drinking and cocaine use. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 Additional studies are either being planned 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 or are already underway 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 to determine whether psychedelics may be effective in treating 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 an even wider range of intractable disorders 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 such as OCD, PTSD, opioid-use disorder 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and anorexia. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 At this point it might be reasonable to take a step back 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and say, "Are psychedelics being sold as a panacea?" 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 And if so, we should be rightfully skeptical. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 Why should we expect such a small family of compounds to be so effective 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 in treating such a wide range of disparate disorders? 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 Here's a perspective we might consider. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 Some of these disorders share a common thread. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 At some level, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 mood disorders and substance-use disorders involve negative affect 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and a disconnection from our most authentic selves. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 Psychedelics may break that mold. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 Psychedelics and music may represent a one-two punch 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 that can operate on psychological neuro processes such as negative affect 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 that cut across and contribute to multiple disorders. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 It may be that targeting such transdiagnostic processes 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 is what's necessary to really help people to develop the resources 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 that they need to begin to recover from years of depression and substane use. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 They say you never get a second chance to make a first impression, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and that may be true for psychedelic drugs. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 After all, no matter how much data come out 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 for the potential of therapeutic effects of these drugs, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 there are still some who are stuck on the stigma from the '60s and '70s: 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 myths of the wildly addictive properties of these drugs 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 or myths of genetic abnormalities 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 or birth defects after being exposed to these drugs 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 or fears that people are going to lose their minds 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and go insane, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 or maybe even most pervasive 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 is the sense that these effects are necessarily real 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and that they're a necessary outcome of having been exposed to these compounds. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 It may be time to change our thinking on that point. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 No one should expect psychedelic drugs to work for everyone. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 No one should expect psychedelic drugs to work for everything. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 They're powerful compounds 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 that need to be administered under carefully controlled circumstances, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and there are almost certainly people in this world 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 for whom psychedelics are incredibly dangerous. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 But ... 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 antibiotics administered to the wrong person or the wrong conditions 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 can be incredibly dangerous, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 if not worse. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 But administered to the right person under the right conditions, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 antibiotics save lives. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 Administered to the right people under the right conditions, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 psychedelic drugs may save lives. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 It can often feel like it's impossible 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 to heal our hearts and our minds 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and to grow. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 But I truly believe that we all have the resources within ourselves 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 to do just that. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 The challenge is often identifying and connecting with those resources. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 And it may be the psychedelics and music can help people 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 to do just that. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 Together, psychedelics and music may be able to open our minds to change 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and direct that change, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 reconnect us with our most authentic selves 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and allow us access to the things 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 that really allow us to make meaning in this world 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and reconnect 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 with our most authentic selves. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 Thank you. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 (Applause)