[Script Info] Title: [Events] Format: Layer, Start, End, Style, Name, MarginL, MarginR, MarginV, Effect, Text Dialogue: 0,0:00:00.76,0:00:04.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Today I stand before you\Nas a man who lives life to the full Dialogue: 0,0:00:04.80,0:00:06.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the here and now. Dialogue: 0,0:00:07.28,0:00:08.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But for a long time, Dialogue: 0,0:00:08.96,0:00:10.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I lived for death. Dialogue: 0,0:00:11.92,0:00:13.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was a young man who believed Dialogue: 0,0:00:13.56,0:00:18.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that jihad is to be understood\Nin the language of force and violence. Dialogue: 0,0:00:20.76,0:00:24.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I tried to right wrongs\Nthrough power and aggression. Dialogue: 0,0:00:25.44,0:00:29.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I had deep concerns\Nfor the suffering of others Dialogue: 0,0:00:30.76,0:00:34.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and a strong desire\Nto help and bring relief to them. Dialogue: 0,0:00:37.12,0:00:40.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I thought violent jihad was noble, Dialogue: 0,0:00:40.48,0:00:41.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,chivalrous Dialogue: 0,0:00:41.84,0:00:43.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the best way to help. Dialogue: 0,0:00:45.64,0:00:47.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,At a time when so many of our people -- Dialogue: 0,0:00:47.56,0:00:48.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,young people especially -- Dialogue: 0,0:00:48.84,0:00:50.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are at risk of radicalization Dialogue: 0,0:00:51.40,0:00:53.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,through groups like al-Qaeda, Dialogue: 0,0:00:53.12,0:00:54.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Islamic State and others, Dialogue: 0,0:00:55.88,0:00:57.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when these groups are claiming Dialogue: 0,0:00:57.36,0:01:02.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that their horrific brutality\Nand violence are true jihad, Dialogue: 0,0:01:02.44,0:01:06.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I want to say that their idea\Nof jihad is wrong -- Dialogue: 0,0:01:06.64,0:01:07.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,completely wrong -- Dialogue: 0,0:01:08.00,0:01:09.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as was mine, then. Dialogue: 0,0:01:11.20,0:01:13.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Jihad means to strive to one's utmost. Dialogue: 0,0:01:14.44,0:01:17.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It includes exertion and spirituality, Dialogue: 0,0:01:17.48,0:01:18.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,self-purification Dialogue: 0,0:01:19.00,0:01:20.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and devotion. Dialogue: 0,0:01:22.48,0:01:25.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It refers to positive transformation Dialogue: 0,0:01:25.28,0:01:29.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,through learning, wisdom\Nand remembrance of God. Dialogue: 0,0:01:29.40,0:01:32.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The word jihad stands\Nfor all those meanings as a whole. Dialogue: 0,0:01:34.92,0:01:39.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Jihad may at times\Ntake the form of fighting, Dialogue: 0,0:01:39.36,0:01:40.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but only sometimes, Dialogue: 0,0:01:41.20,0:01:42.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,under strict conditions, Dialogue: 0,0:01:44.20,0:01:46.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,within rules and limits. Dialogue: 0,0:01:47.84,0:01:49.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In Islam, Dialogue: 0,0:01:49.08,0:01:54.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the benefit of an act must outweigh\Nthe harm or hardship it entails. Dialogue: 0,0:01:55.24,0:01:56.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,More importantly, Dialogue: 0,0:01:57.00,0:02:01.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the verses in the Koran\Nthat are connected to jihad or fighting Dialogue: 0,0:02:01.76,0:02:07.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,do not cancel out the verses\Nthat talk about forgiveness, Dialogue: 0,0:02:07.36,0:02:08.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,benevolence Dialogue: 0,0:02:08.68,0:02:09.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or patience. Dialogue: 0,0:02:13.32,0:02:17.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But now I believe that there are\Nno circumstances on earth Dialogue: 0,0:02:17.92,0:02:20.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where violent jihad is permissible, Dialogue: 0,0:02:20.52,0:02:23.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because it will lead to greater harm. Dialogue: 0,0:02:25.80,0:02:28.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But now the idea of jihad\Nhas been hijacked. Dialogue: 0,0:02:28.32,0:02:31.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It has been perverted\Nto mean violent struggle Dialogue: 0,0:02:31.68,0:02:34.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,wherever Muslims\Nare undergoing difficulties, Dialogue: 0,0:02:34.68,0:02:36.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and turned into terrorism Dialogue: 0,0:02:36.60,0:02:39.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,by fascistic Islamists like al-Qaeda, Dialogue: 0,0:02:39.68,0:02:41.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Islamic State and others. Dialogue: 0,0:02:42.28,0:02:44.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But I have come to understand Dialogue: 0,0:02:44.28,0:02:48.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that true jihad\Nmeans striving to the utmost Dialogue: 0,0:02:48.24,0:02:51.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to strengthen and live\Nthose qualities which God loves: Dialogue: 0,0:02:52.44,0:02:54.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,honesty, trustworthiness, Dialogue: 0,0:02:54.80,0:02:56.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,compassion, benevolence, Dialogue: 0,0:02:56.92,0:02:58.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,reliability, respect, Dialogue: 0,0:02:58.84,0:03:00.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,truthfulness -- Dialogue: 0,0:03:00.24,0:03:03.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,human values that so many of us share. Dialogue: 0,0:03:06.36,0:03:08.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was born in Bangladesh, Dialogue: 0,0:03:08.24,0:03:09.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but grew up mostly in England. Dialogue: 0,0:03:10.48,0:03:11.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I went to school here. Dialogue: 0,0:03:12.48,0:03:14.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,My father was an academic, Dialogue: 0,0:03:14.80,0:03:16.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and we were in the UK through his work. Dialogue: 0,0:03:18.36,0:03:22.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In 1971 we were in Bangladesh\Nwhen everything changed. Dialogue: 0,0:03:24.24,0:03:27.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The War of Independence\Nimpacted upon us terribly, Dialogue: 0,0:03:27.80,0:03:29.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,pitting family against family, Dialogue: 0,0:03:29.68,0:03:31.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,neighbor against neighbor. Dialogue: 0,0:03:31.40,0:03:34.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And at the age of 12 I experienced war, Dialogue: 0,0:03:34.28,0:03:35.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,destitution in my family, Dialogue: 0,0:03:36.72,0:03:39.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the deaths of 22\Nof my relatives in horrible ways, Dialogue: 0,0:03:40.96,0:03:43.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as well as the murder of my elder brother. Dialogue: 0,0:03:47.04,0:03:48.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I witnessed killing ... Dialogue: 0,0:03:51.00,0:03:53.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,animals feeding on corpses in the streets, Dialogue: 0,0:03:53.84,0:03:55.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,starvation all around me, Dialogue: 0,0:03:55.60,0:03:57.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,wanton, horrific violence -- Dialogue: 0,0:03:57.76,0:03:58.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,senseless violence. Dialogue: 0,0:04:02.28,0:04:04.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was a young man, Dialogue: 0,0:04:04.04,0:04:06.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,teenager, fascinated by ideas. Dialogue: 0,0:04:07.00,0:04:08.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I wanted to learn, Dialogue: 0,0:04:08.84,0:04:10.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but I could not go to school\Nfor four years. Dialogue: 0,0:04:12.76,0:04:14.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,After the War of Independence, Dialogue: 0,0:04:14.24,0:04:16.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,my father was put in prison\Nfor two and a half years, Dialogue: 0,0:04:17.84,0:04:20.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I used to visit him\Nevery week in prison, Dialogue: 0,0:04:21.12,0:04:22.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and homeschooled myself. Dialogue: 0,0:04:24.08,0:04:26.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,My father was released in 1973 Dialogue: 0,0:04:27.52,0:04:30.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and he fled to England as a refugee, Dialogue: 0,0:04:30.12,0:04:31.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and we soon followed him. Dialogue: 0,0:04:32.72,0:04:34.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was 17. Dialogue: 0,0:04:34.40,0:04:36.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So these experiences gave me Dialogue: 0,0:04:36.88,0:04:40.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a sharp awareness of the atrocities\Nand injustices in the world. Dialogue: 0,0:04:42.32,0:04:44.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I had a strong desire -- Dialogue: 0,0:04:44.16,0:04:46.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a very keen, deep desire -- Dialogue: 0,0:04:46.20,0:04:47.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to right wrongs Dialogue: 0,0:04:47.44,0:04:49.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and help the victims of oppression. Dialogue: 0,0:04:50.60,0:04:52.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,While studying at college in the UK, Dialogue: 0,0:04:52.56,0:04:58.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I met others who showed me\Nhow I could channel that desire Dialogue: 0,0:04:58.72,0:05:00.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and help through my religion. Dialogue: 0,0:05:01.72,0:05:03.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I was radicalized -- Dialogue: 0,0:05:03.04,0:05:06.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,enough to consider violence correct, Dialogue: 0,0:05:07.64,0:05:10.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,even a virtue under certain circumstances. Dialogue: 0,0:05:12.32,0:05:15.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I became involved\Nin the jihad in Afghanistan. Dialogue: 0,0:05:15.56,0:05:20.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I wanted to protect the Muslim Afghan\Npopulation against the Soviet army. Dialogue: 0,0:05:20.96,0:05:23.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I thought that was jihad: Dialogue: 0,0:05:23.36,0:05:24.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,my sacred duty, Dialogue: 0,0:05:24.88,0:05:26.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which would be rewarded by God. Dialogue: 0,0:05:31.88,0:05:33.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I became a preacher. Dialogue: 0,0:05:35.96,0:05:41.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was one of the pioneers\Nof violent jihad in the UK. Dialogue: 0,0:05:41.08,0:05:42.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I recruited, Dialogue: 0,0:05:42.60,0:05:44.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I raised funds, I trained. Dialogue: 0,0:05:45.36,0:05:47.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I confused true jihad Dialogue: 0,0:05:47.92,0:05:51.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with this perversion\Nas presented by the fascist Islamists -- Dialogue: 0,0:05:53.68,0:05:56.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,these people who use the idea of jihad Dialogue: 0,0:05:56.76,0:06:00.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to justify their lust for power,\Nauthority and control on us: Dialogue: 0,0:06:01.74,0:06:06.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a perversion perpetuated today\Nby fascist Islamist groups Dialogue: 0,0:06:06.08,0:06:08.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like al-Qaeda, Islamic State and others. Dialogue: 0,0:06:10.44,0:06:12.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,For a period of around 15 years, Dialogue: 0,0:06:13.48,0:06:17.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I fought for short periods of time Dialogue: 0,0:06:18.24,0:06:19.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in Kashmir and Burma, Dialogue: 0,0:06:20.00,0:06:21.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,besides Afghanistan. Dialogue: 0,0:06:25.00,0:06:27.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Our aim was to remove the invaders, Dialogue: 0,0:06:28.76,0:06:31.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to bring relief to the oppressed victims Dialogue: 0,0:06:32.88,0:06:36.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and of course to establish\Nan Islamic state, Dialogue: 0,0:06:36.04,0:06:37.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a caliphate for God's rule. Dialogue: 0,0:06:38.72,0:06:39.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I did this openly. Dialogue: 0,0:06:41.48,0:06:43.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I didn't break any laws. Dialogue: 0,0:06:44.44,0:06:47.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was proud and grateful to be British -- Dialogue: 0,0:06:47.56,0:06:49.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I still am. Dialogue: 0,0:06:49.16,0:06:52.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I bore no hostility\Nagainst this, my country, Dialogue: 0,0:06:53.96,0:06:57.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,nor enmity towards\Nthe non-Muslim citizens, Dialogue: 0,0:06:57.52,0:06:58.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I still don't. Dialogue: 0,0:07:01.84,0:07:04.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,During one battle in Afghanistan, Dialogue: 0,0:07:04.24,0:07:07.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,some British men and I\Nformed a special bond Dialogue: 0,0:07:07.96,0:07:10.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with a 15-year-old Afghani boy, Dialogue: 0,0:07:10.72,0:07:11.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Abdullah, Dialogue: 0,0:07:12.84,0:07:15.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,an innocent, loving and lovable kid Dialogue: 0,0:07:15.20,0:07:17.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who was always eager to please. Dialogue: 0,0:07:18.96,0:07:20.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He was poor. Dialogue: 0,0:07:20.76,0:07:23.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And boys like him\Ndid menial tasks in the camp. Dialogue: 0,0:07:24.48,0:07:25.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And he seemed happy enough, Dialogue: 0,0:07:26.48,0:07:27.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but I couldn't help wonder -- Dialogue: 0,0:07:27.92,0:07:29.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,his parents must have missed him dearly. Dialogue: 0,0:07:31.56,0:07:35.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And they must have dreamt\Nabout a better future for him. Dialogue: 0,0:07:37.56,0:07:40.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,A victim of circumstance\Ncaught up in a war, Dialogue: 0,0:07:40.40,0:07:41.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,cruelly thrust upon him Dialogue: 0,0:07:42.72,0:07:44.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,by the cruel circumstances of the time. Dialogue: 0,0:07:48.68,0:07:53.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,One day I picked up this unexploded\Nmortar shell in a trench, Dialogue: 0,0:07:54.32,0:07:58.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I had it deposited\Nin a makeshift mud hut lab. Dialogue: 0,0:07:59.28,0:08:02.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I went out on a short,\Npointless skirmish -- Dialogue: 0,0:08:02.24,0:08:03.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,always pointless, Dialogue: 0,0:08:04.44,0:08:07.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I came back a few hours later\Nto discover he was dead. Dialogue: 0,0:08:09.16,0:08:11.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He had tried to recover\Nexplosives from that shell. Dialogue: 0,0:08:11.96,0:08:14.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It exploded, and he died a violent death, Dialogue: 0,0:08:15.44,0:08:19.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,blown to bits by the very same device\Nthat had proved harmless to me. Dialogue: 0,0:08:21.08,0:08:22.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I started to question. Dialogue: 0,0:08:24.60,0:08:28.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,How did his death serve any purpose? Dialogue: 0,0:08:30.28,0:08:32.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Why did he die and I lived? Dialogue: 0,0:08:33.56,0:08:35.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I carried on. Dialogue: 0,0:08:35.08,0:08:36.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I fought in Kashmir. Dialogue: 0,0:08:36.72,0:08:39.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I also recruited for the Philippines, Dialogue: 0,0:08:39.44,0:08:41.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Bosnia and Chechnya. Dialogue: 0,0:08:42.56,0:08:43.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And the questions grew. Dialogue: 0,0:08:45.88,0:08:47.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Later in Burma, Dialogue: 0,0:08:47.80,0:08:50.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I came across Rohingya fighters, Dialogue: 0,0:08:50.16,0:08:52.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who were barely teenagers, Dialogue: 0,0:08:52.44,0:08:54.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,born and brought up in the jungle, Dialogue: 0,0:08:54.12,0:08:56.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,carrying machine guns\Nand grenade launchers. Dialogue: 0,0:09:00.00,0:09:05.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I met two 13-year-olds\Nwith soft manners and gentle voices. Dialogue: 0,0:09:06.92,0:09:08.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Looking at me, Dialogue: 0,0:09:08.16,0:09:10.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they begged me\Nto take them away to England. Dialogue: 0,0:09:16.72,0:09:18.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They simply wanted to go to school -- Dialogue: 0,0:09:19.68,0:09:21.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that was their dream. Dialogue: 0,0:09:24.36,0:09:25.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,My family -- Dialogue: 0,0:09:25.60,0:09:27.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,my children of the same age -- Dialogue: 0,0:09:27.08,0:09:29.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,were living at home in the UK, Dialogue: 0,0:09:30.04,0:09:31.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,going to school, Dialogue: 0,0:09:31.36,0:09:32.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,living a safe life. Dialogue: 0,0:09:33.88,0:09:35.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I couldn't help wonder Dialogue: 0,0:09:35.16,0:09:38.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,how much these young boys\Nmust have spoken to one another Dialogue: 0,0:09:38.64,0:09:40.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about their dreams for such a life. Dialogue: 0,0:09:42.92,0:09:44.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Victims of circumstances: Dialogue: 0,0:09:46.36,0:09:47.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,these two young boys, Dialogue: 0,0:09:48.32,0:09:51.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sleeping rough on the ground,\Nlooking up at the stars, Dialogue: 0,0:09:51.40,0:09:53.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,cynically exploited by their leaders Dialogue: 0,0:09:53.92,0:09:56.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for their personal lust\Nfor glory and power. Dialogue: 0,0:09:57.92,0:10:01.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I soon witnessed boys like them\Nkilling one another Dialogue: 0,0:10:01.16,0:10:03.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in conflicts between rival groups. Dialogue: 0,0:10:05.40,0:10:07.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And it was the same everywhere ... Dialogue: 0,0:10:09.28,0:10:11.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Afghanistan, Kashmir, Burma, Dialogue: 0,0:10:11.80,0:10:13.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Philippines, Chechnya; Dialogue: 0,0:10:14.24,0:10:18.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,petty warlords got the young\Nand vulnerable to kill one another Dialogue: 0,0:10:18.88,0:10:20.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the name of jihad. Dialogue: 0,0:10:22.24,0:10:24.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Muslims against Muslims. Dialogue: 0,0:10:25.64,0:10:30.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Not protecting anyone\Nagainst invaders or occupiers; Dialogue: 0,0:10:30.04,0:10:32.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,not bringing relief to the oppressed. Dialogue: 0,0:10:34.24,0:10:35.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Children being used, Dialogue: 0,0:10:35.64,0:10:37.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,cynically exploited; Dialogue: 0,0:10:37.28,0:10:39.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,people dying in conflicts Dialogue: 0,0:10:39.24,0:10:42.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which I was supporting\Nin the name of jihad. Dialogue: 0,0:10:44.92,0:10:46.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And it still carries on today. Dialogue: 0,0:10:51.80,0:10:55.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Realizing that the violent jihad Dialogue: 0,0:10:55.44,0:10:59.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I had engaged in abroad Dialogue: 0,0:11:01.44,0:11:03.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was so different -- Dialogue: 0,0:11:05.28,0:11:10.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,such a chasm between\Nwhat I had experienced Dialogue: 0,0:11:10.04,0:11:11.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and what I thought was sacred duty -- Dialogue: 0,0:11:12.64,0:11:15.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I had to reflect\Non my activities here in the UK. Dialogue: 0,0:11:18.24,0:11:20.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I had to consider my preaching, Dialogue: 0,0:11:20.32,0:11:21.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,recruiting, fund-raising, Dialogue: 0,0:11:21.88,0:11:23.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,training, Dialogue: 0,0:11:23.48,0:11:25.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but most importantly, radicalizing -- Dialogue: 0,0:11:26.64,0:11:28.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sending young people to fight and die Dialogue: 0,0:11:28.88,0:11:30.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as I was doing -- Dialogue: 0,0:11:30.12,0:11:31.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,all totally wrong. Dialogue: 0,0:11:35.68,0:11:38.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I got involved\Nin violent jihad in the mid '80s, Dialogue: 0,0:11:39.96,0:11:41.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,starting with Afghanistan. Dialogue: 0,0:11:42.60,0:11:45.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And by the time I finished\Nit was in the year 2000. Dialogue: 0,0:11:47.04,0:11:48.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was completely immersed in it. Dialogue: 0,0:11:48.64,0:11:50.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,All around me people supported, Dialogue: 0,0:11:50.60,0:11:51.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,applauded, Dialogue: 0,0:11:51.84,0:11:54.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,even celebrated what\Nwe were doing in their name. Dialogue: 0,0:11:56.16,0:11:57.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But by the time I learned to get out, Dialogue: 0,0:11:58.00,0:12:00.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,completely disillusioned in the year 2000, Dialogue: 0,0:12:00.64,0:12:02.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,15 years had passed. Dialogue: 0,0:12:05.20,0:12:06.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So what goes wrong? Dialogue: 0,0:12:08.72,0:12:11.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We were so busy talking about virtue, Dialogue: 0,0:12:13.16,0:12:16.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and we were blinded by a cause. Dialogue: 0,0:12:20.24,0:12:24.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And we did not give ourselves a chance\Nto develop a virtuous character. Dialogue: 0,0:12:25.68,0:12:29.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We told ourselves\Nwe were fighting for the oppressed, Dialogue: 0,0:12:29.84,0:12:32.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but these were unwinnable wars. Dialogue: 0,0:12:33.72,0:12:37.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We became the very instrument\Nthrough which more deaths occurred, Dialogue: 0,0:12:37.36,0:12:41.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,complicit in causing further misery Dialogue: 0,0:12:41.12,0:12:43.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for the selfish benefit of the cruel few. Dialogue: 0,0:12:52.28,0:12:53.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So over time, Dialogue: 0,0:12:53.52,0:12:54.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a very long time, Dialogue: 0,0:12:56.60,0:12:57.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I opened my eyes. Dialogue: 0,0:12:59.96,0:13:01.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I began to dare Dialogue: 0,0:13:03.04,0:13:04.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to face the truth, Dialogue: 0,0:13:04.72,0:13:05.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to think, Dialogue: 0,0:13:07.36,0:13:09.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to face the hard questions. Dialogue: 0,0:13:09.52,0:13:11.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I got in touch with my soul. Dialogue: 0,0:13:22.08,0:13:23.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What have I learned? Dialogue: 0,0:13:24.64,0:13:29.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That people who engage\Nin violent jihadism, Dialogue: 0,0:13:30.96,0:13:33.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that people who are drawn\Nto these types of extremisms, Dialogue: 0,0:13:34.60,0:13:36.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are not that different to everyone else. Dialogue: 0,0:13:37.88,0:13:40.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But I believe such people can change. Dialogue: 0,0:13:42.12,0:13:44.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They can regain their hearts\Nand restore them Dialogue: 0,0:13:45.00,0:13:48.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,by filling them\Nwith human values that heal. Dialogue: 0,0:13:55.00,0:13:57.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When we ignore the realities, Dialogue: 0,0:13:57.24,0:14:03.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we discover that we accept what\Nwe are told without critical reflection. Dialogue: 0,0:14:05.64,0:14:09.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And we ignore the gifts and advantages\Nthat many of us would cherish Dialogue: 0,0:14:09.44,0:14:11.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,even for a single moment in their lives. Dialogue: 0,0:14:16.40,0:14:18.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I engaged in actions\NI thought were correct. Dialogue: 0,0:14:21.76,0:14:25.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But now I began to question\Nhow I knew what I knew. Dialogue: 0,0:14:27.84,0:14:31.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I endlessly told others\Nto accept the truth, Dialogue: 0,0:14:31.56,0:14:35.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but I failed to give doubt\Nits rightful place. Dialogue: 0,0:14:40.92,0:14:45.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This conviction that people can change\Nis rooted in my experience, Dialogue: 0,0:14:45.80,0:14:47.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,my own journey. Dialogue: 0,0:14:48.52,0:14:50.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Through wide reading, Dialogue: 0,0:14:50.44,0:14:51.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,reflecting, Dialogue: 0,0:14:52.16,0:14:54.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,contemplation, self-knowledge, Dialogue: 0,0:14:54.08,0:14:55.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I discovered, Dialogue: 0,0:14:55.32,0:15:00.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I realized that Islamists' world\Nof us and them is false and unjust. Dialogue: 0,0:15:04.80,0:15:08.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Through considering the uncertainties\Nin all that we had asserted, Dialogue: 0,0:15:09.40,0:15:11.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to the inviolable truths, Dialogue: 0,0:15:11.04,0:15:12.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,incontestable truths, Dialogue: 0,0:15:14.96,0:15:17.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I developed a more nuanced understanding. Dialogue: 0,0:15:24.48,0:15:28.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I realized that in a world crowded\Nwith variation and contradiction, Dialogue: 0,0:15:29.92,0:15:31.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,foolish preachers, Dialogue: 0,0:15:31.16,0:15:34.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,only foolish preachers\Nlike I used to be, Dialogue: 0,0:15:34.20,0:15:39.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,see no paradox in the myths and fictions\Nthey use to assert authenticity. Dialogue: 0,0:15:41.12,0:15:45.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I understood the vital\Nimportance of self-knowledge, Dialogue: 0,0:15:45.68,0:15:46.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,political awareness Dialogue: 0,0:15:48.00,0:15:52.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the necessity\Nfor a deep and wide understanding Dialogue: 0,0:15:52.68,0:15:55.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of our commitments and our actions, Dialogue: 0,0:15:55.16,0:15:56.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,how they affect others. Dialogue: 0,0:15:58.52,0:15:59.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So my plea today to everyone, Dialogue: 0,0:16:00.00,0:16:04.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,especially those who sincerely\Nbelieve in Islamist jihadism ... Dialogue: 0,0:16:06.48,0:16:08.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,refuse dogmatic authority; Dialogue: 0,0:16:10.36,0:16:14.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,let go of anger, hatred and violence; Dialogue: 0,0:16:15.12,0:16:16.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,learn to right wrongs Dialogue: 0,0:16:16.80,0:16:21.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,without even attempting to justify\Ncruel, unjust and futile behavior. Dialogue: 0,0:16:24.84,0:16:28.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Instead create a few\Nbeautiful and useful things Dialogue: 0,0:16:28.20,0:16:29.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that outlive us. Dialogue: 0,0:16:33.20,0:16:35.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Approach the world, life, Dialogue: 0,0:16:35.08,0:16:36.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with love. Dialogue: 0,0:16:38.00,0:16:39.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Learn to develop Dialogue: 0,0:16:39.24,0:16:40.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or cultivate your hearts Dialogue: 0,0:16:40.52,0:16:43.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to see goodness, beauty and truth\Nin others and in the world. Dialogue: 0,0:16:45.00,0:16:47.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That way we do matter\Nmore to ourselves ... Dialogue: 0,0:16:49.24,0:16:50.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to each other, Dialogue: 0,0:16:51.16,0:16:52.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to our communities Dialogue: 0,0:16:52.40,0:16:53.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and, for me, to God. Dialogue: 0,0:16:55.00,0:16:56.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is jihad -- Dialogue: 0,0:16:56.64,0:16:57.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,my true jihad. Dialogue: 0,0:16:58.92,0:17:00.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Thank you. Dialogue: 0,0:17:00.16,0:17:02.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Applause)