WEBVTT 00:00:01.010 --> 00:00:04.984 Today I stand before you as a man who lives life to the full 00:00:04.984 --> 00:00:06.569 in the here and now. 00:00:07.466 --> 00:00:09.196 But for a long time, 00:00:09.196 --> 00:00:10.834 I lived for death. 00:00:12.145 --> 00:00:13.892 I was a young man who believed 00:00:13.892 --> 00:00:18.546 that jihad is to be understood in the language for force and violence. 00:00:21.040 --> 00:00:24.614 I tried to right wrongs through power and aggression. 00:00:25.719 --> 00:00:31.021 I had deep concerns for the suffering of others 00:00:31.021 --> 00:00:34.633 and a strong desire to help and bring relief to them. 00:00:37.391 --> 00:00:40.772 I thought violent Jihad was noble, 00:00:40.772 --> 00:00:42.055 chivalrous 00:00:42.055 --> 00:00:43.785 and the best way to help. 00:00:45.840 --> 00:00:47.758 At a time when so many of our people -- 00:00:47.758 --> 00:00:49.022 young people especially -- 00:00:49.022 --> 00:00:51.739 are at risk of radicalization 00:00:51.739 --> 00:00:53.586 through groups like Al Qaeda, 00:00:53.586 --> 00:00:54.618 Islamic State 00:00:54.618 --> 00:00:56.241 and others, 00:00:56.241 --> 00:00:57.727 when these groups are claiming 00:00:57.727 --> 00:01:02.766 that their horrific brutality and violence are true jihad, 00:01:02.766 --> 00:01:06.933 I want to say that their idea of Jihad is wrong -- 00:01:06.933 --> 00:01:08.233 completely wrong -- 00:01:08.233 --> 00:01:10.335 as was mine, then. NOTE Paragraph 00:01:11.518 --> 00:01:14.782 Jihad means to strive to one's utmost. 00:01:14.782 --> 00:01:17.802 It includes exertion and spirituality, 00:01:17.802 --> 00:01:19.241 self-purification 00:01:19.241 --> 00:01:21.001 and devotion. 00:01:22.684 --> 00:01:25.555 It refers to positive transformation 00:01:25.555 --> 00:01:29.701 through learning, wisdom and remembrance of God. 00:01:29.701 --> 00:01:33.892 The word jihad stands for all those meanings as a whole. 00:01:35.233 --> 00:01:39.639 Jihad may at times take the form of fighting, 00:01:39.639 --> 00:01:41.574 but only sometimes, 00:01:41.574 --> 00:01:44.462 under strict conditions, 00:01:44.462 --> 00:01:46.983 within rules and limits. 00:01:48.085 --> 00:01:49.092 In Islam, 00:01:49.092 --> 00:01:54.444 the benefit of an act must outweigh the harm or hardship it entails. 00:01:55.426 --> 00:01:57.303 More importantly, 00:01:57.303 --> 00:02:02.070 the verses in the Koran that are connected to jihad [of] fighting, 00:02:02.070 --> 00:02:07.542 do not cancel out the verses that talk about forgiveness, 00:02:07.542 --> 00:02:08.954 benevolence, 00:02:08.954 --> 00:02:10.712 or patience. 00:02:13.587 --> 00:02:18.336 But now I believe that there are no circumstances on Earth 00:02:18.336 --> 00:02:20.916 where a violent jihad is permissible, 00:02:20.916 --> 00:02:24.315 because it will lead to greater harm. 00:02:25.919 --> 00:02:28.648 But now the idea of Jihad has been hijacked. 00:02:28.648 --> 00:02:31.987 It has been perverted to mean violent struggle 00:02:31.987 --> 00:02:34.950 wherever Muslims are undergoing difficulties, 00:02:34.950 --> 00:02:36.883 and turned into terrorism 00:02:36.883 --> 00:02:39.970 by fascistic Islamists like Al Qaeda, 00:02:39.970 --> 00:02:40.971 Islamic State 00:02:40.971 --> 00:02:42.264 and others. 00:02:42.586 --> 00:02:44.468 But I have come to understand 00:02:44.468 --> 00:02:48.516 that true jihad means striving to the utmost 00:02:48.516 --> 00:02:52.633 to strengthen and live those qualities which God loves: 00:02:52.633 --> 00:02:53.628 honesty, 00:02:53.628 --> 00:02:55.133 trustworthiness, 00:02:55.133 --> 00:02:57.230 compassion, benevolence, 00:02:57.230 --> 00:02:59.121 reliability, respect, 00:02:59.121 --> 00:03:00.563 truthfulness -- 00:03:00.563 --> 00:03:04.353 human values that so many of us share. NOTE Paragraph 00:03:06.584 --> 00:03:08.516 I was born in Bangladesh, 00:03:08.516 --> 00:03:10.695 but grew up mostly in England. 00:03:10.695 --> 00:03:12.594 And I went to school here. 00:03:12.834 --> 00:03:15.178 My father was an academic, 00:03:15.178 --> 00:03:17.565 and we were in the UK through his work. 00:03:18.613 --> 00:03:23.228 In 1971 we were in Bangladesh when everything changed. 00:03:24.509 --> 00:03:28.091 The War of Independence impacted upon us terribly, 00:03:28.091 --> 00:03:30.013 pitting family against family, 00:03:30.013 --> 00:03:31.759 neighbor against neighbor. 00:03:31.759 --> 00:03:34.755 And at the age of 12 I experience war, 00:03:34.755 --> 00:03:37.114 destitution in my family, 00:03:37.114 --> 00:03:41.340 the deaths of 22 of my relatives in horrible ways, 00:03:41.340 --> 00:03:45.007 as well as the murder of my elder brother. 00:03:47.298 --> 00:03:51.277 I witnessed killing ... 00:03:51.277 --> 00:03:54.244 animals feeding on corpses in the streets, 00:03:54.244 --> 00:03:55.950 starvation all around me; 00:03:55.950 --> 00:03:58.103 wanton, horrific violence -- 00:03:58.103 --> 00:04:00.019 senseless violence. 00:04:02.615 --> 00:04:04.256 I was a young man -- 00:04:04.256 --> 00:04:05.258 teenager -- 00:04:05.258 --> 00:04:07.372 fascinated by ideas. 00:04:07.372 --> 00:04:09.213 I wanted to learn, 00:04:09.213 --> 00:04:11.902 but I could not go to school for four years. 00:04:13.056 --> 00:04:14.527 After the War of Independence, 00:04:14.527 --> 00:04:18.198 my father was put in prison for two-and-a-half years, 00:04:18.198 --> 00:04:21.453 and I used to visit him every week in prison, 00:04:21.453 --> 00:04:23.830 and homeschooled myself. 00:04:24.331 --> 00:04:27.815 My father was released in 1973 00:04:27.815 --> 00:04:30.497 and he fled to England as a refugee, 00:04:30.497 --> 00:04:32.335 and we soon followed him. 00:04:32.814 --> 00:04:34.259 I was 17. NOTE Paragraph 00:04:34.666 --> 00:04:37.195 So these experiences gave me 00:04:37.195 --> 00:04:41.158 a sharp awareness of the atrocities and injustices in the world. 00:04:42.611 --> 00:04:44.454 And I had a strong desire -- 00:04:44.454 --> 00:04:46.357 a very keen, deep desire -- 00:04:46.357 --> 00:04:47.517 to right wrongs 00:04:47.517 --> 00:04:49.866 and help the victims of oppression. 00:04:50.871 --> 00:04:52.830 While studying at college in the UK, 00:04:52.830 --> 00:04:58.987 I met others who showed me how I could channel that desire 00:04:58.987 --> 00:05:01.575 and help through my religion. 00:05:01.881 --> 00:05:03.444 And I was radicalized -- 00:05:03.444 --> 00:05:07.878 enough to consider violence correct, 00:05:07.878 --> 00:05:11.105 even a virtue under certain circumstances. 00:05:12.489 --> 00:05:15.811 So I became involved in the jihad in Afghanistan. 00:05:15.811 --> 00:05:20.456 I wanted to protect the Muslim [Afghan] population against the Soviet army. 00:05:21.239 --> 00:05:23.683 And I thought that was jihad: 00:05:23.683 --> 00:05:25.166 my sacred duty, 00:05:25.166 --> 00:05:27.360 which would be rewarded by God. NOTE Paragraph 00:05:32.177 --> 00:05:34.703 I became a preacher. 00:05:36.267 --> 00:05:41.368 I was one of the pioneers of violent jihad in the UK. 00:05:41.368 --> 00:05:42.845 I recruited, 00:05:42.845 --> 00:05:43.908 I raised funds, 00:05:43.908 --> 00:05:44.974 I trained. 00:05:45.778 --> 00:05:48.485 I confused true jihad 00:05:48.485 --> 00:05:54.105 with this perversion as presented by the fascist Islamists -- 00:05:54.105 --> 00:05:57.054 these people who use the idea of jihad 00:05:57.054 --> 00:06:01.551 to justify their lust for power, authority and control on us. 00:06:01.913 --> 00:06:06.271 A perversion perpetuated today by fascist Islamist groups 00:06:06.271 --> 00:06:09.822 like Al Qaeda, Islamic State and others. NOTE Paragraph 00:06:10.756 --> 00:06:13.858 For a period of around 15 years, 00:06:13.858 --> 00:06:18.694 I fought for short periods of time 00:06:18.694 --> 00:06:20.434 in Kashmir and Burma, 00:06:20.434 --> 00:06:22.284 besides Afghanistan. 00:06:25.278 --> 00:06:29.103 Our aim was to remove the invaders, 00:06:29.103 --> 00:06:33.092 to bring relief to the oppressed victims 00:06:33.092 --> 00:06:36.426 and of course to establish an Islamic state; 00:06:36.426 --> 00:06:38.729 a caliphate for God's rule. 00:06:39.087 --> 00:06:40.942 And I did this openly. 00:06:41.816 --> 00:06:44.396 I didn't break any laws. 00:06:44.790 --> 00:06:47.809 I was proud and grateful to be British -- 00:06:47.809 --> 00:06:49.147 I still am. 00:06:49.633 --> 00:06:54.278 And I bore no hostility against this, my country, 00:06:54.278 --> 00:06:57.910 nor enmity towards the non-Muslim citizens, 00:06:57.910 --> 00:06:59.605 and I still don't. NOTE Paragraph 00:07:02.112 --> 00:07:04.511 During one battle in Afghanistan, 00:07:04.511 --> 00:07:08.258 some British men and I formed a special bond 00:07:08.258 --> 00:07:10.932 with a 15-year-old Afghani boy, 00:07:10.932 --> 00:07:13.103 Abdullah, 00:07:13.103 --> 00:07:15.357 an innocent, loving and lovable kid 00:07:15.357 --> 00:07:18.347 who was always eager to please. 00:07:19.103 --> 00:07:20.507 He was poor. 00:07:21.075 --> 00:07:23.991 And boys like him did menial tasks in the camp. 00:07:24.683 --> 00:07:26.650 And he seemed happy enough, 00:07:26.650 --> 00:07:28.077 but I couldn't help wonder -- 00:07:28.077 --> 00:07:30.800 his parents must have missed him dearly. 00:07:31.733 --> 00:07:36.006 And they must have dreamt about a better future for him. 00:07:37.934 --> 00:07:40.694 A victim of circumstance caught up in a war, 00:07:40.694 --> 00:07:43.125 cruelly thrust upon him 00:07:43.125 --> 00:07:45.883 by the cruel circumstances of the time. 00:07:48.969 --> 00:07:54.618 One day I picked up this unexploded mortar shell in a trench, 00:07:54.618 --> 00:07:58.751 and I had it deposited in a makeshift mud hut lab. 00:07:59.489 --> 00:08:02.414 And I went out on a short, pointless skirmish -- 00:08:02.414 --> 00:08:04.649 always pointless -- 00:08:04.649 --> 00:08:06.230 and I came back a few hours later 00:08:06.230 --> 00:08:08.779 to discover he was dead. 00:08:09.426 --> 00:08:12.335 He had tried to recover explosives from that shell. 00:08:12.335 --> 00:08:15.772 It exploded and he died a violent death, 00:08:15.772 --> 00:08:20.291 blown to bits by the very same device that had proved harmless to me. 00:08:21.373 --> 00:08:24.222 So I started to question. 00:08:24.930 --> 00:08:28.950 How did his death serve any purpose? 00:08:30.628 --> 00:08:33.002 Why did he die and I lived? NOTE Paragraph 00:08:33.863 --> 00:08:35.335 I carried on. 00:08:35.335 --> 00:08:37.038 I fought in Kashmir. 00:08:37.038 --> 00:08:39.819 I also recruited for the Philippines, 00:08:39.819 --> 00:08:42.173 Bosnia and Chechnya. 00:08:42.921 --> 00:08:44.956 And the questions grew. 00:08:46.154 --> 00:08:48.043 Later in Burma, 00:08:48.043 --> 00:08:50.363 I came across Rohingya fighters, 00:08:50.363 --> 00:08:52.586 who were barely teenagers, 00:08:52.586 --> 00:08:54.215 born and brought up in the jungle, 00:08:54.215 --> 00:08:57.018 carrying machine guns and grenade launches. 00:09:00.259 --> 00:09:06.305 I met two 13-year-olds with soft manners and gentle voices. 00:09:07.215 --> 00:09:08.221 Looking at me, 00:09:08.221 --> 00:09:11.571 they begged me to take them away to England. 00:09:17.023 --> 00:09:20.002 They simply wanted to go to school -- 00:09:20.002 --> 00:09:21.942 that was their dream. 00:09:24.481 --> 00:09:25.565 My family -- 00:09:25.565 --> 00:09:27.443 my children of the same age -- 00:09:27.443 --> 00:09:30.412 were living at home in the UK, 00:09:30.412 --> 00:09:31.712 going to school, 00:09:31.712 --> 00:09:33.302 living a safe life. 00:09:34.052 --> 00:09:35.336 And I couldn't help wonder 00:09:35.336 --> 00:09:38.855 how much these young boys must have spoken to one another 00:09:38.855 --> 00:09:41.729 about their dreams for such a life. 00:09:43.200 --> 00:09:45.975 Victims of circumstances. 00:09:46.500 --> 00:09:48.528 These two young boys -- 00:09:48.528 --> 00:09:49.951 sleeping rough on the ground, 00:09:49.951 --> 00:09:51.762 looking up at the stars -- 00:09:51.762 --> 00:09:54.312 cynically exploited by their leaders 00:09:54.312 --> 00:09:57.027 for their personal lust for glory and power. NOTE Paragraph 00:09:58.207 --> 00:10:01.346 I soon witnessed boys like them killing one another 00:10:01.346 --> 00:10:04.326 in conflicts between rival groups. 00:10:05.557 --> 00:10:09.620 And it was the same everywhere ... 00:10:09.620 --> 00:10:12.129 Afghanistan, Kashmir, Burma, 00:10:12.129 --> 00:10:14.607 Philipines, Chechnya; 00:10:14.607 --> 00:10:19.229 petty warlords got the young and vulnerable to kill one another 00:10:19.229 --> 00:10:21.316 in the name of jihad. 00:10:22.511 --> 00:10:24.648 Muslims against Muslims. 00:10:25.957 --> 00:10:30.335 Not protecting anyone against invaders or occupiers; 00:10:30.335 --> 00:10:32.895 not bringing relief to the oppressed. 00:10:34.455 --> 00:10:35.957 Children being used -- 00:10:35.957 --> 00:10:37.695 cynically exploited; 00:10:37.695 --> 00:10:42.533 people dying in conflicts which I was supporting in the name of jihad. 00:10:45.158 --> 00:10:47.208 And it still carries on today. NOTE Paragraph 00:10:52.035 --> 00:10:55.839 Realizing that the violent jihad 00:10:55.839 --> 00:11:01.909 I had engaged in abroad 00:11:01.909 --> 00:11:05.545 was so different -- 00:11:05.545 --> 00:11:10.369 such a chasm between what I had experienced 00:11:10.369 --> 00:11:13.040 and what I thought was sacred duty -- 00:11:13.040 --> 00:11:16.610 I had to reflect on my activities here in the UK. 00:11:18.426 --> 00:11:20.543 I had to consider my preaching, 00:11:20.543 --> 00:11:21.544 recruiting, 00:11:21.544 --> 00:11:22.538 fundraising, 00:11:22.538 --> 00:11:23.874 training, 00:11:23.874 --> 00:11:27.021 but most importantly, radicalizing -- 00:11:27.021 --> 00:11:29.121 sending young people to fight and die 00:11:29.121 --> 00:11:30.431 as I was doing -- 00:11:30.431 --> 00:11:32.881 all totally wrong. NOTE Paragraph 00:11:35.929 --> 00:11:40.176 So I got involved in violent jihad in the mid '80s, 00:11:40.176 --> 00:11:42.428 starting with Afghanistan. 00:11:42.832 --> 00:11:46.462 And by the time I finished it was in the year 2000. 00:11:47.180 --> 00:11:48.848 I was completely immersed in it. 00:11:48.848 --> 00:11:50.927 All around me people supported, 00:11:50.927 --> 00:11:52.203 applauded, 00:11:52.203 --> 00:11:55.074 even celebrated what we were doing in their name. 00:11:56.320 --> 00:11:58.131 But by the time I learned to get out, 00:11:58.131 --> 00:12:00.930 completely disillusioned in the year 2000, 00:12:00.930 --> 00:12:03.304 15 years had passed. NOTE Paragraph 00:12:05.387 --> 00:12:07.073 So what goes wrong? 00:12:08.975 --> 00:12:13.529 We were so busy talking about virtue, 00:12:13.529 --> 00:12:16.860 and we were blinded by a cause. 00:12:20.481 --> 00:12:25.105 And we did not give ourselves a chance to develop a virtuous character. 00:12:25.992 --> 00:12:30.239 We told ourselves we were fighting for the oppressed, 00:12:30.239 --> 00:12:32.788 but these were unwinnable wars. 00:12:34.006 --> 00:12:37.755 We became the very instrument through which more deaths occurred, 00:12:37.755 --> 00:12:41.491 complicit in causing further misery 00:12:41.491 --> 00:12:44.413 for the selfish benefit of the cruel few. NOTE Paragraph 00:12:52.586 --> 00:12:53.718 So over time -- 00:12:53.718 --> 00:12:56.809 a very long time -- 00:12:56.809 --> 00:12:59.004 I opened my eyes. 00:13:00.371 --> 00:13:05.077 I began to dare to face the truth, 00:13:05.077 --> 00:13:07.618 to think, 00:13:07.618 --> 00:13:09.777 to face the hard questions. 00:13:09.777 --> 00:13:12.591 I got in touch with my soul. NOTE Paragraph 00:13:22.400 --> 00:13:24.355 What have I learned? 00:13:24.907 --> 00:13:31.129 That people who engage in violent jihadism, 00:13:31.129 --> 00:13:34.870 that people who are drawn to these types of extremisms, 00:13:34.870 --> 00:13:37.488 are not that different to everyone else. 00:13:38.218 --> 00:13:41.414 But I believe such people can change. 00:13:42.377 --> 00:13:45.292 They can regain their hearts and restore them 00:13:45.292 --> 00:13:48.512 by filling them with human values that heal. NOTE Paragraph 00:13:55.237 --> 00:13:57.580 When we ignore the realities, 00:13:57.580 --> 00:14:02.994 we discover that we accept what we are told without critical reflection. 00:14:05.909 --> 00:14:09.696 I will ignore the gifts and advantages that many of us would cherish 00:14:09.696 --> 00:14:12.678 even for a single moment in their lives. 00:14:16.644 --> 00:14:19.869 I engaged in actions I thought were correct. 00:14:22.019 --> 00:14:26.243 But now I began to question how I knew what I knew. 00:14:28.145 --> 00:14:31.812 I endlessly told others to accept the truth, 00:14:31.812 --> 00:14:35.678 but I failed to give doubt its rightful place. NOTE Paragraph 00:14:41.196 --> 00:14:46.061 This conviction that people can change is rooted in my experience, 00:14:46.061 --> 00:14:47.674 my own journey. 00:14:48.707 --> 00:14:50.585 Through wide reading, 00:14:50.585 --> 00:14:52.385 reflecting, 00:14:52.385 --> 00:14:53.462 contemplation, 00:14:53.462 --> 00:14:54.455 self-knowledge, 00:14:54.455 --> 00:14:55.463 I discovered -- 00:14:55.463 --> 00:15:00.947 I realized that Islamists' world of us and them is false and unjust. 00:15:05.080 --> 00:15:09.710 Through considering the uncertainties in all that we had asserted, 00:15:09.710 --> 00:15:11.431 to the inviolable truths -- 00:15:11.431 --> 00:15:15.171 incontestable truths -- 00:15:15.171 --> 00:15:18.611 I developed a more nuanced understanding. 00:15:24.736 --> 00:15:30.170 I realized that in a world crowded with variation and contradiction, 00:15:30.170 --> 00:15:31.358 foolish preachers -- 00:15:31.358 --> 00:15:34.449 only foolish preachers like I used to be -- 00:15:34.449 --> 00:15:39.919 see no paradox in the myths and fictions they use to assert authenticity. 00:15:41.407 --> 00:15:45.910 So I understood the vital importance of self-knowledge, 00:15:45.910 --> 00:15:48.381 politcal awareness 00:15:48.381 --> 00:15:54.067 and the necessity for a deep and wide understanding of our committments 00:15:54.067 --> 00:15:55.476 and our actions, 00:15:55.476 --> 00:15:57.498 how they effect others. NOTE Paragraph 00:15:58.629 --> 00:16:00.378 So my plea today to everyone, 00:16:00.378 --> 00:16:06.781 especially those who sincerely believe in Islamist jihadism ... 00:16:06.781 --> 00:16:10.677 refuse dogmatic authority; 00:16:10.677 --> 00:16:15.286 let go of anger, hatred and violence; 00:16:15.286 --> 00:16:17.141 learn to right wrongs 00:16:17.141 --> 00:16:22.057 without even attempting to justify cruel, unjust and futile behavior. 00:16:25.102 --> 00:16:28.443 Instead create a few beautiful and useful things 00:16:28.443 --> 00:16:30.515 that outlive us. 00:16:33.407 --> 00:16:34.784 Approach the world -- 00:16:34.784 --> 00:16:35.777 life -- 00:16:35.777 --> 00:16:37.076 with love. 00:16:38.168 --> 00:16:39.624 [In all,] learn to develop, 00:16:39.624 --> 00:16:40.937 or cultivate your hearts 00:16:40.937 --> 00:16:44.549 to see goodness, beauty and truth in others and in the world. 00:16:45.228 --> 00:16:49.363 That way we do matter more to ourselves ... 00:16:49.363 --> 00:16:51.394 to each other, 00:16:51.394 --> 00:16:52.385 to our communities; 00:16:52.385 --> 00:16:53.620 and for me, 00:16:53.620 --> 00:16:54.787 to God. 00:16:55.354 --> 00:16:56.931 This is jihad -- 00:16:56.931 --> 00:16:58.219 my true jihad. NOTE Paragraph 00:16:58.891 --> 00:17:00.120 Thank you. NOTE Paragraph 00:17:00.207 --> 00:17:02.587 (Applause)