WEBVTT 00:00:01.010 --> 00:00:04.984 Today I stand before you as a man who lives life to the full 00:00:04.984 --> 00:00:06.569 in the here and now. 00:00:07.466 --> 00:00:09.196 But for a long time, 00:00:09.196 --> 00:00:10.834 I lived for death. 00:00:12.145 --> 00:00:13.892 I was a young man who believed 00:00:13.892 --> 00:00:18.546 that Jihad is to be understood in the language for force and violence. 00:00:21.040 --> 00:00:24.614 I tried to right wrongs through power and aggression. 00:00:25.719 --> 00:00:31.021 I had deep concerns for the suffering of others 00:00:31.021 --> 00:00:34.633 and a strong desire to help and bring relief to them. 00:00:37.391 --> 00:00:40.772 I thought violent Jihad was noble, 00:00:40.772 --> 00:00:42.055 chivalrous 00:00:42.055 --> 00:00:43.785 and the best way to help. 00:00:45.840 --> 00:00:47.758 At a time when so many of our people -- 00:00:47.758 --> 00:00:49.022 young people especially -- 00:00:49.022 --> 00:00:51.739 are at risk of radicalization 00:00:51.739 --> 00:00:53.586 through groups like Al-Qaeda, 00:00:53.586 --> 00:00:54.618 Islamic State 00:00:54.618 --> 00:00:56.241 and others, 00:00:56.241 --> 00:00:57.727 when these groups are claiming 00:00:57.727 --> 00:01:02.766 that their horrific brutality and violence are true Jihad, 00:01:02.766 --> 00:01:06.933 I want to say that their idea of Jihad is wrong -- 00:01:06.933 --> 00:01:08.233 completely wrong -- 00:01:08.233 --> 00:01:10.335 as was mine, then. 00:01:11.518 --> 00:01:14.782 Jihad means to strive to one's utmost. 00:01:14.782 --> 00:01:17.802 It includes exertion and spirituality, 00:01:17.802 --> 00:01:19.241 self-purification 00:01:19.241 --> 00:01:21.001 and devotion. 00:01:22.684 --> 00:01:25.555 It refers to positive transformation 00:01:25.555 --> 00:01:29.701 through learning, wisdom and remembrance of God. 00:01:29.701 --> 00:01:33.892 The word Jihad stands for all those meanings as a whole. 00:01:35.233 --> 00:01:39.639 Jihad may at times take the form of fighting, 00:01:39.639 --> 00:01:41.574 but only sometimes, 00:01:41.574 --> 00:01:44.462 under strict conditions, 00:01:44.462 --> 00:01:46.983 within rules and limits. 00:01:48.085 --> 00:01:49.092 In Islam, 00:01:49.092 --> 00:01:54.444 the benefit of an act must outweigh the harm or hardship it entails. 00:01:55.426 --> 00:01:57.303 More importantly, 00:01:57.303 --> 00:02:02.070 the verses in the Koran that are connected to Jihad [of] fighting, 00:02:02.070 --> 00:02:07.542 do not cancel out the verses that talk about forgiveness, 00:02:07.542 --> 00:02:08.954 benevolence, 00:02:08.954 --> 00:02:10.712 or patience. 00:02:13.587 --> 00:02:18.336 But now I believe that there are no circumstances on Earth 00:02:18.336 --> 00:02:20.916 where a violent Jihad is permissible, 00:02:20.916 --> 00:02:24.315 because it will lead to greater harm. 00:02:25.919 --> 00:02:28.648 But now the idea of Jihad has been hijacked. 00:02:28.648 --> 00:02:31.987 It has been perverted to mean violent struggle 00:02:31.987 --> 00:02:34.950 wherever Muslims are undergoing difficulties, 00:02:34.950 --> 00:02:36.883 and turned into terrorism 00:02:36.883 --> 00:02:39.970 by fascistic Islamists like Al Qaeda, 00:02:39.970 --> 00:02:40.971 Islamic State 00:02:40.971 --> 00:02:42.264 and others. 00:02:42.586 --> 00:02:44.468 But I have come to understand 00:02:44.468 --> 00:02:48.516 that true Jihad means striving to the utmost 00:02:48.516 --> 00:02:52.633 to strengthen and live those qualities which God loves: 00:02:52.633 --> 00:02:53.628 honesty, 00:02:53.628 --> 00:02:55.133 trustworthiness, 00:02:55.133 --> 00:02:57.230 compassion, benevolence, 00:02:57.230 --> 00:02:59.121 reliability, respect, 00:02:59.121 --> 00:03:00.563 truthfulness -- 00:03:00.563 --> 00:03:04.353 human values that so many of us share. 00:03:06.584 --> 00:03:08.516 I was born in Bangladesh, 00:03:08.516 --> 00:03:10.695 but grew up mostly in England. 00:03:10.695 --> 00:03:12.594 And I went to school here. 00:03:12.834 --> 00:03:15.178 My father was an academic, 00:03:15.178 --> 00:03:17.565 and we were in the UK through his work. 00:03:18.613 --> 00:03:23.228 In 1971 we were in Bangladesh when everything changed. 00:03:24.509 --> 00:03:28.091 The War of Independence impacted upon us terribly, 00:03:28.269 --> 00:03:29.941 pitting family against family; 00:03:30.119 --> 00:03:31.695 neighbor against neighbor. 00:03:31.924 --> 00:03:34.630 And at the age of 12 I experience war, 00:03:34.824 --> 00:03:37.043 destitution in my family, 00:03:37.253 --> 00:03:41.239 the deaths of 22 of my relatives in horrible ways, 00:03:41.398 --> 00:03:45.145 as well as the murder of my elder brother. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 I witnessed killing; 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 animals feeding on corpses in the street; 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 starvation all around me; 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 wanton, horrific violence -- 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 senseless violence. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 I was a young man -- 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 teenager -- 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 fascinated by ideas. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 I wanted to learn, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 but I could not go to school for four years. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 After the War of Independence, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 my father was put in prison for two-and-a-half years, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and I used to visit him every week in prison, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and homeschooled myself. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 My father was released in 1973 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and he fled to England as a refugee, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and we soon followed him. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 I was 17. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 So these experiences gave me 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 a sharp awareness of the atrocities and injustices in the world. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 And I had a strong desire -- 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 a very keen, deep desire -- 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 to right wrongs 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and help the victims of oppression. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 While studying at college in the UK, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 I met others who showed me how I could channel that desire 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and help through my religion. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 And I was radicalized -- 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 enough to consider violence correct, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 even a virtue under certain circumstances. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 So I became involved in the Jihad in Afghanistan. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 I wanted to protect the Muslim [av gone] population against the Soviet army. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 And I thought that was Jihad: 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 my sacred duty, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 which would be rewarded by God. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 I became a preacher. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 I was one of the pioneers of violent Jihad in the UK. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 I recruited, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 I raised funds, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 I trained. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 I confused true Jihad with this perversion as presented by the fascist Islamists -- 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 these people who use the idea of Jihad 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 to justify their lust for power, authority and control on us. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 A perversion perpetuated today by fascist Islamic groups 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 like Al-Qaeda, Islamic State and others. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 For a period of around 15 years, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 I fought for short periods of time in Kasmir and Burma, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 besides Afghanistan. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 Our aim was to remove the invaders; 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 to bring relief to the oppressed victims, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and of course to establish an Islamic State, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 a [califate] for God's rule. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 And I did this openly. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 I didn't break any laws. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 I was proud and grateful to be British -- 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 I still am. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 And I bore no hostility against this, my country, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 nor enmity towards the non-Muslim citizens, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and I still don't. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 During one batter in Afghanistan, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 some British men and I formed a special bond 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 with a 15-year-old Afghani boy, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 Abdullah. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 An innocent, loving and lovable kid 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 who was always eager to please. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 He was poor. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 And boys like him did menial tasks in the camp. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 And he seemed happy enough, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 but I couldn't help wonder, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 his parents must have missed him dearly. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 And they must have dreamt about a better future for him. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 A victim of circumstance caught up in a war, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 cruelly thrust upon him 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 by the cruel circumstances of the time. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 One day I picked up this unexploded mortar shell in a trench, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and I had it deposited in a makeshift mud hut lab. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 And I went out on a short, pointless skirmish -- 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 always pointless -- 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and I came back a few hours later 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 to discover he was dead. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 He had tried to recover explosives from that shell. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 It exploded and he died a violent death, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 blown to bit by the very same device that had proved harmless to me. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 So I started to question. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 How did his death serve any purpose? 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 Why did he die and I lived? 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 I carried on. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 I fought in Kashmir. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 I also recruited from the Philipines, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 Bosnia and Chechnya. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 And the questions grew. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 Later in Burma, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 I came across [Rohinga] fighters, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 who are barely teenagers, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 born and brought up in the jungle, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 carrying machine guns and grenade launches. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 I met two 13-year-olds with soft manners and gentle voices, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 looking at me they begged me to take them away to England. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 They simply wanted to go to school. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 That was their dream. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 My family -- 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 my children were the same age -- 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 were living at home in the UK, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 going to school, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 living a safe life. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 And I couldn't help wonder 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 how much these young boys must have spoken to one another 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 about their dreams for such a life. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 Victims of circumstances. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 These two young boys, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 sleeping rough on the ground, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 looking up at the stars, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 cynically exploited by their leaders 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 for their personal lust for glory and power. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 I soon witnessed boys like them killing one another 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 in conflicts between rival groups. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 And it was the same everywhere: 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 Afghanistan, Kashmir, Burma, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 Philipines, Chechnya; 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 petty warlords got the young and vulnerable to kill one another 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 in the name of Jihad. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 Muslims against Muslims. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 Not protecting anyone against invaders or occupiers, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 not bringing relief to the oppressed. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 Children being used, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 cynically exploited, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 people dying in conflicts which I was supporting in the name of Jihad. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 And it still carries on today. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 Realizing that the violent Jihad I had engaged in abroad 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 was so different, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 such a chasm between what I had experienced 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and what I thought was sacred duty, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 I had to reflect on my activities here in the UK. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 I had to consider my preaching, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 recruiting, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 fundraising, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 training, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 but most importantly, radicalizing -- 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 sending young people to fight and die 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 as I was doing all totally wrong. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 So I got involved in violent Jihad in the mid-'80s, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 starting with Afghanistan. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 And by the time I finished it was the year 2000. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 I was completely immersed in it. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 All around me people supported, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 applauded, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 even celebrated what we were doing in their name. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 But by the time I learned to get out, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 completely disillusioned in the year 2000, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 15 years had passed. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 So what goes wrong? 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 We were so busy talking about virtue, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and we were blinded by a cause. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 And we did not give ourselves a chance to develop a virtuous character. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 We told ourselves we were fighting for the oppressed, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 but these were un-winable wars. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 We became the very instrument through which more deaths occurred, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 complicit in causing further misery 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 for the selfish benefit of the cruel few. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 So over time -- 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 a very long time -- 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 I opened my eyes. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 I began to dare to face the truth, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 to think, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 to face the hard questions. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 I got in touch with my soul. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 What have I learned? 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 That people who engage in violent Jihadism, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 that people who are drawn to these types of extremisms, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 are not that different to everyone else. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 But I believe such people can change. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 They can regain their hearts and restore them 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 by filling them with human values that heal. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 When we ignore the realities, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 we discover that accept what we are told without critical reflection. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 I will ignore the gifts and advantages that many of us would cherish 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 even for a single moment in their lives. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 I engaged in actions I thought were correct. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 But now I began to question how I knew what I knew. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 I endlessly told others to accept the truth, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 but I failed to give doubt its rightful place. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 This conviction that people can change is rooted in my experience, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 my own journey. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 Through wide reading, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 reflecting, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 contemplation, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 self-knowledge, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 I discovered -- 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 I realized that Islamists' world of us and them is false and unjust. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 Through considering the uncertainties in all that we had asserted, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 to the inviolable truths -- 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 incontestable truths -- 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 I developed a more nuanced understanding. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 I realized that in a world crowded with variation and contradiction, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 foolish preachers -- 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 only foolish preachers like I used to be -- 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 see no paradox in the myths and fictions they use to assert authenticity. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 So I understood the vital importance of self-knowledge, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 politcal awareness 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and the necessity for a deep and wide understanding of our committments 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and our actions, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 how the effect others. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 So my plea today to everyone, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 especially those who sincerely believe in Islamist Jihadism, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 refuse dogmatic authority; 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 let go of anger, hatred and violence; 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 learn to right wrongs 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 without even attempting to justify cruel, unjust and futile behavior. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 Instead create a few beautiful and useful things 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 that outlive us. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 Approach the world -- 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 life -- 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 with love. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 [In all,] learn to develop, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 or cultivate your hearts, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 to see goodness, beauty and truth in others and in the world. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 That way, we do matter more to ourselves; 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 to each other; 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 to our communities, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and for me, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 to God. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 This is Jihad -- 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 my true Jihad. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 Thank you.