1 00:00:01,010 --> 00:00:04,984 Today I stand before you as a man who lives life to the full 2 00:00:04,984 --> 00:00:06,569 in the here and now. 3 00:00:07,466 --> 00:00:09,196 But for a long time, 4 00:00:09,196 --> 00:00:10,834 I lived for death. 5 00:00:12,145 --> 00:00:13,892 I was a young man who believed 6 00:00:13,892 --> 00:00:18,546 that Jihad is to be understood in the language for force and violence. 7 00:00:21,040 --> 00:00:24,614 I tried to right wrongs through power and aggression. 8 00:00:25,719 --> 00:00:31,021 I had deep concerns for the suffering of others 9 00:00:31,021 --> 00:00:34,633 and a strong desire to help and bring relief to them. 10 00:00:37,391 --> 00:00:40,772 I thought violent Jihad was noble, 11 00:00:40,772 --> 00:00:42,055 chivalrous 12 00:00:42,055 --> 00:00:43,785 and the best way to help. 13 00:00:45,840 --> 00:00:47,758 At a time when so many of our people -- 14 00:00:47,758 --> 00:00:49,022 young people especially -- 15 00:00:49,022 --> 00:00:51,739 are at risk of radicalization 16 00:00:51,739 --> 00:00:53,586 through groups like Al-Qaeda, 17 00:00:53,586 --> 00:00:54,618 Islamic State 18 00:00:54,618 --> 00:00:56,241 and others, 19 00:00:56,241 --> 00:00:57,727 when these groups are claiming 20 00:00:57,727 --> 00:01:02,766 that their horrific brutality and violence are true Jihad, 21 00:01:02,766 --> 00:01:06,933 I want to say that their idea of Jihad is wrong -- 22 00:01:06,933 --> 00:01:08,233 completely wrong -- 23 00:01:08,233 --> 00:01:10,335 as was mine, then. 24 00:01:11,518 --> 00:01:14,782 Jihad means to strive to one's utmost. 25 00:01:14,782 --> 00:01:17,802 It includes exertion and spirituality, 26 00:01:17,802 --> 00:01:19,241 self-purification 27 00:01:19,241 --> 00:01:21,001 and devotion. 28 00:01:22,684 --> 00:01:25,555 It refers to positive transformation 29 00:01:25,555 --> 00:01:29,701 through learning, wisdom and remembrance of God. 30 00:01:29,701 --> 00:01:33,892 The word Jihad stands for all those meanings as a whole. 31 00:01:35,233 --> 00:01:39,639 Jihad may at times take the form of fighting, 32 00:01:39,639 --> 00:01:41,574 but only sometimes, 33 00:01:41,574 --> 00:01:44,462 under strict conditions, 34 00:01:44,462 --> 00:01:46,983 within rules and limits. 35 00:01:48,085 --> 00:01:49,092 In Islam, 36 00:01:49,092 --> 00:01:54,444 the benefit of an act must outweigh the harm or hardship it entails. 37 00:01:55,426 --> 00:01:57,303 More importantly, 38 00:01:57,303 --> 00:02:02,070 the verses in the Koran that are connected to Jihad [of] fighting, 39 00:02:02,070 --> 00:02:07,542 do not cancel out the verses that talk about forgiveness, 40 00:02:07,542 --> 00:02:08,954 benevolence, 41 00:02:08,954 --> 00:02:10,712 or patience. 42 00:02:13,587 --> 00:02:18,336 But now I believe that there are no circumstances on Earth 43 00:02:18,336 --> 00:02:20,916 where a violent Jihad is permissible, 44 00:02:20,916 --> 00:02:24,315 because it will lead to greater harm. 45 00:02:25,919 --> 00:02:28,648 But now the idea of Jihad has been hijacked. 46 00:02:28,648 --> 00:02:31,987 It has been perverted to mean violent struggle 47 00:02:31,987 --> 00:02:34,950 wherever Muslims are undergoing difficulties, 48 00:02:34,950 --> 00:02:36,883 and turned into terrorism 49 00:02:36,883 --> 00:02:39,970 by fascistic Islamists like Al Qaeda, 50 00:02:39,970 --> 00:02:40,971 Islamic State 51 00:02:40,971 --> 00:02:42,264 and others. 52 00:02:42,586 --> 00:02:44,468 But I have come to understand 53 00:02:44,468 --> 00:02:48,516 that true Jihad means striving to the utmost 54 00:02:48,516 --> 00:02:52,633 to strengthen and live those qualities which God loves: 55 00:02:52,633 --> 00:02:53,628 honesty, 56 00:02:53,628 --> 00:02:55,133 trustworthiness, 57 00:02:55,133 --> 00:02:57,230 compassion, benevolence, 58 00:02:57,230 --> 00:02:59,121 reliability, respect, 59 00:02:59,121 --> 00:03:00,563 truthfulness -- 60 00:03:00,563 --> 00:03:04,353 human values that so many of us share. 61 00:03:06,584 --> 00:03:08,516 I was born in Bangladesh, 62 00:03:08,516 --> 00:03:10,695 but grew up mostly in England. 63 00:03:10,695 --> 00:03:12,594 And I went to school here. 64 00:03:12,834 --> 00:03:15,178 My father was an academic, 65 00:03:15,178 --> 00:03:17,565 and we were in the UK through his work. 66 00:03:18,613 --> 00:03:23,228 In 1971 we were in Bangladesh when everything changed. 67 00:03:24,509 --> 00:03:28,091 The War of Independence impacted upon us terribly, 68 00:03:28,269 --> 00:03:29,941 pitting family against family; 69 00:03:30,119 --> 00:03:31,695 neighbor against neighbor. 70 00:03:31,924 --> 00:03:34,630 And at the age of 12 I experience war, 71 00:03:34,824 --> 00:03:37,043 destitution in my family, 72 00:03:37,253 --> 00:03:41,239 the deaths of 22 of my relatives in horrible ways, 73 00:03:41,398 --> 00:03:45,145 as well as the murder of my elder brother. 74 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 I witnessed killing; 75 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 animals feeding on corpses in the street; 76 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 starvation all around me; 77 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 wanton, horrific violence -- 78 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 senseless violence. 79 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 I was a young man -- 80 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 teenager -- 81 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 fascinated by ideas. 82 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 I wanted to learn, 83 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 but I could not go to school for four years. 84 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 After the War of Independence, 85 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 my father was put in prison for two-and-a-half years, 86 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and I used to visit him every week in prison, 87 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and homeschooled myself. 88 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 My father was released in 1973 89 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and he fled to England as a refugee, 90 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and we soon followed him. 91 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 I was 17. 92 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 So these experiences gave me 93 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 a sharp awareness of the atrocities and injustices in the world. 94 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 And I had a strong desire -- 95 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 a very keen, deep desire -- 96 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 to right wrongs 97 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and help the victims of oppression. 98 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 While studying at college in the UK, 99 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 I met others who showed me how I could channel that desire 100 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and help through my religion. 101 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 And I was radicalized -- 102 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 enough to consider violence correct, 103 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 even a virtue under certain circumstances. 104 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 So I became involved in the Jihad in Afghanistan. 105 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 I wanted to protect the Muslim [av gone] population against the Soviet army. 106 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 And I thought that was Jihad: 107 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 my sacred duty, 108 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 which would be rewarded by God. 109 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 I became a preacher. 110 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 I was one of the pioneers of violent Jihad in the UK. 111 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 I recruited, 112 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 I raised funds, 113 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 I trained. 114 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 I confused true Jihad with this perversion as presented by the fascist Islamists -- 115 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 these people who use the idea of Jihad 116 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 to justify their lust for power, authority and control on us. 117 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 A perversion perpetuated today by fascist Islamic groups 118 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 like Al-Qaeda, Islamic State and others. 119 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 For a period of around 15 years, 120 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 I fought for short periods of time in Kasmir and Burma, 121 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 besides Afghanistan. 122 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Our aim was to remove the invaders; 123 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 to bring relief to the oppressed victims, 124 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and of course to establish an Islamic State, 125 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 a [califate] for God's rule. 126 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 And I did this openly. 127 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 I didn't break any laws. 128 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 I was proud and grateful to be British -- 129 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 I still am. 130 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 And I bore no hostility against this, my country, 131 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 nor enmity towards the non-Muslim citizens, 132 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and I still don't. 133 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 During one batter in Afghanistan, 134 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 some British men and I formed a special bond 135 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 with a 15-year-old Afghani boy, 136 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Abdullah. 137 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 An innocent, loving and lovable kid 138 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 who was always eager to please. 139 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 He was poor. 140 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 And boys like him did menial tasks in the camp. 141 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 And he seemed happy enough, 142 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 but I couldn't help wonder, 143 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 his parents must have missed him dearly. 144 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 And they must have dreamt about a better future for him. 145 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 A victim of circumstance caught up in a war, 146 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 cruelly thrust upon him 147 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 by the cruel circumstances of the time. 148 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 One day I picked up this unexploded mortar shell in a trench, 149 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and I had it deposited in a makeshift mud hut lab. 150 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 And I went out on a short, pointless skirmish -- 151 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 always pointless -- 152 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and I came back a few hours later 153 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 to discover he was dead. 154 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 He had tried to recover explosives from that shell. 155 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 It exploded and he died a violent death, 156 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 blown to bit by the very same device that had proved harmless to me. 157 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 So I started to question. 158 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 How did his death serve any purpose? 159 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Why did he die and I lived? 160 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 I carried on. 161 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 I fought in Kashmir. 162 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 I also recruited from the Philipines, 163 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Bosnia and Chechnya. 164 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 And the questions grew. 165 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Later in Burma, 166 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 I came across [Rohinga] fighters, 167 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 who are barely teenagers, 168 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 born and brought up in the jungle, 169 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 carrying machine guns and grenade launches. 170 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 I met two 13-year-olds with soft manners and gentle voices, 171 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 looking at me they begged me to take them away to England. 172 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 They simply wanted to go to school. 173 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 That was their dream. 174 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 My family -- 175 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 my children were the same age -- 176 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 were living at home in the UK, 177 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 going to school, 178 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 living a safe life. 179 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 And I couldn't help wonder 180 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 how much these young boys must have spoken to one another 181 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 about their dreams for such a life. 182 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Victims of circumstances. 183 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 These two young boys, 184 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 sleeping rough on the ground, 185 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 looking up at the stars, 186 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 cynically exploited by their leaders 187 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 for their personal lust for glory and power. 188 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 I soon witnessed boys like them killing one another 189 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 in conflicts between rival groups. 190 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 And it was the same everywhere: 191 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Afghanistan, Kashmir, Burma, 192 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Philipines, Chechnya; 193 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 petty warlords got the young and vulnerable to kill one another 194 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 in the name of Jihad. 195 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Muslims against Muslims. 196 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Not protecting anyone against invaders or occupiers, 197 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 not bringing relief to the oppressed. 198 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Children being used, 199 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 cynically exploited, 200 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 people dying in conflicts which I was supporting in the name of Jihad. 201 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 And it still carries on today. 202 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Realizing that the violent Jihad I had engaged in abroad 203 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 was so different, 204 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 such a chasm between what I had experienced 205 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and what I thought was sacred duty, 206 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 I had to reflect on my activities here in the UK. 207 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 I had to consider my preaching, 208 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 recruiting, 209 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 fundraising, 210 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 training, 211 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 but most importantly, radicalizing -- 212 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 sending young people to fight and die 213 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 as I was doing all totally wrong. 214 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 So I got involved in violent Jihad in the mid-'80s, 215 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 starting with Afghanistan. 216 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 And by the time I finished it was the year 2000. 217 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 I was completely immersed in it. 218 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 All around me people supported, 219 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 applauded, 220 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 even celebrated what we were doing in their name. 221 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 But by the time I learned to get out, 222 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 completely disillusioned in the year 2000, 223 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 15 years had passed. 224 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 So what goes wrong? 225 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 We were so busy talking about virtue, 226 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and we were blinded by a cause. 227 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 And we did not give ourselves a chance to develop a virtuous character. 228 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 We told ourselves we were fighting for the oppressed, 229 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 but these were un-winable wars. 230 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 We became the very instrument through which more deaths occurred, 231 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 complicit in causing further misery 232 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 for the selfish benefit of the cruel few. 233 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 So over time -- 234 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 a very long time -- 235 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 I opened my eyes. 236 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 I began to dare to face the truth, 237 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 to think, 238 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 to face the hard questions. 239 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 I got in touch with my soul. 240 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 What have I learned? 241 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 That people who engage in violent Jihadism, 242 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 that people who are drawn to these types of extremisms, 243 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 are not that different to everyone else. 244 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 But I believe such people can change. 245 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 They can regain their hearts and restore them 246 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 by filling them with human values that heal. 247 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 When we ignore the realities, 248 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 we discover that accept what we are told without critical reflection. 249 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 I will ignore the gifts and advantages that many of us would cherish 250 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 even for a single moment in their lives. 251 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 I engaged in actions I thought were correct. 252 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 But now I began to question how I knew what I knew. 253 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 I endlessly told others to accept the truth, 254 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 but I failed to give doubt its rightful place. 255 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 This conviction that people can change is rooted in my experience, 256 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 my own journey. 257 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Through wide reading, 258 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 reflecting, 259 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 contemplation, 260 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 self-knowledge, 261 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 I discovered -- 262 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 I realized that Islamists' world of us and them is false and unjust. 263 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Through considering the uncertainties in all that we had asserted, 264 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 to the inviolable truths -- 265 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 incontestable truths -- 266 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 I developed a more nuanced understanding. 267 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 I realized that in a world crowded with variation and contradiction, 268 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 foolish preachers -- 269 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 only foolish preachers like I used to be -- 270 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 see no paradox in the myths and fictions they use to assert authenticity. 271 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 So I understood the vital importance of self-knowledge, 272 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 politcal awareness 273 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and the necessity for a deep and wide understanding of our committments 274 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and our actions, 275 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 how the effect others. 276 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 So my plea today to everyone, 277 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 especially those who sincerely believe in Islamist Jihadism, 278 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 refuse dogmatic authority; 279 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 let go of anger, hatred and violence; 280 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 learn to right wrongs 281 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 without even attempting to justify cruel, unjust and futile behavior. 282 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Instead create a few beautiful and useful things 283 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 that outlive us. 284 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Approach the world -- 285 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 life -- 286 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 with love. 287 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 [In all,] learn to develop, 288 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 or cultivate your hearts, 289 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 to see goodness, beauty and truth in others and in the world. 290 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 That way, we do matter more to ourselves; 291 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 to each other; 292 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 to our communities, 293 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and for me, 294 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 to God. 295 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 This is Jihad -- 296 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 my true Jihad. 297 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Thank you.